Podcast Summary

思維槓桿 S5EP11

Title: 連賈伯斯都會失敗，憑什麼你不可以？
Hosts: 米克 x 麥可
Date: March 13, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode of 思維槓桿 explores the inevitability and value of failure, even for legendary figures like Steve Jobs. Hosts 米克 and 麥可 engage in an insightful, relaxed conversation about how reframing our mindset on failure can open up new possibilities and foster greater personal freedom. The theme centers around dismantling the stigma of failure and leveraging it as a powerful driver for growth.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Myth of Infalibility – Even Steve Jobs Failed

• [02:45] 米克 shares stories about Steve Jobs' well-known failures, including being ousted from Apple, to illustrate that no one is immune:

  “連賈伯斯都會失敗，你怎麼會認為自己能一路順風？” — 米克 (03:01)

• The hosts argue that idolizing success blinds us to the struggles—even the greats face setbacks.

2. Reframing Failure as a Learning Process

• [07:13] 麥可 discusses how failure is a necessary "checkpoint" for progress, not a dead end:

  “每個失敗其實都是一個隱藏的教練。” — 麥可 (07:26)

• They use personal anecdotes, including 米克’s first entrepreneurial flop and the unexpected lessons he gained.

3. Social Pressure and the Fear of Looking Bad

• [12:33] The conversation shifts to societal expectations in Asia, where failure is often seen as shameful:

  “我們都太害怕被別人笑，結果什麼都不敢嘗試。” — 麥可 (13:50)

• The hosts emphasize that progress comes from those willing to endure temporary embarrassment for long-term gain.

4. Building a ‘Failure-Resilient’ Mindset

• [18:02] They discuss actionable strategies:
  • Normalizing open talk about mistakes
  • Practicing self-compassion
  • Setting up “low-risk experiments” instead of making all-or-nothing bets
• 米克 summarizes:

  “給自己一點空間失敗，也是成長最快的方法。” (19:44)

5. Case Studies: Public Figures and Personal Stories

• [23:10] 麥可 highlights JK Rowling’s rejections and NBA stars’ on-court mishaps, adding perspective that successful people collect more visible failures.
• [27:35] Listener stories: Selected voice messages share how embracing failure led to unexpected career or relationship opportunities.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “我們都會忽略那些背後的努力和挫折，只看到人家光鮮亮麗的結果。”
  — 米克 (05:58)
• “一個沒有失敗經驗的人，很難真的突破自己。”
  — 麥可 (16:12)
• “如果你現在正在經歷失敗，恭喜你！你已經站在變強的門口。”
  — 米克 (21:47)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:45–06:30 — Steve Jobs' setbacks & deconstructing the myth of perfect success
• 07:13–11:30 — The value of failure as a teacher
• 12:33–17:10 — Social judgement and overcoming fear of looking bad
• 18:02–22:00 — Practical mindset shifts & strategies for embracing failure
• 23:10–28:30 — Real-life case studies and listener experiences

Takeaways & Closing Thoughts

By drawing parallels between the failures of celebrated visionaries and our everyday lives, 米克 and 麥可 invite listeners to destigmatize setbacks. Their conversational approach helps normalize failure as a crucial lever (“槓桿”) for growth. The episode encourages listeners to confront their fears, take calculated risks, and see each misstep as a stepping-stone rather than a stopping point.

“人生不是看你跌倒幾次，而是你願不願意爬起來再試一次。” — 麥可 (29:58)