【聊了什么】

美军F-15被击落后，一场天价的营救行动在伊朗腹地上演——临时机场、运输机陷入泥土、最终炸毁滞留飞机撤离。整个过程堪比好莱坞大片，但"丧事喜办"的背后是一个更深层的战略困境：特朗普的降温方式就是升级，而伊朗政权则在为自己的生存而战。闪电战变成了持久战，双方的战争目标越拉越远，僵局看不到出口。与此同时，油价攀升、民调下滑、共和党基本盘松动，美国国内形势也给战局带来更多不确定性。

战场之外，特朗普政府内部暗流涌动。司法部长邦迪在去最高法院的路上被特朗普当面解雇，国防部长赫格塞斯因偏执症般的不安全感大规模清洗军方高层，卢特尼克、加巴德等多名内阁成员据报也面临下台风险。

最高法院则就出生公民权展开口头辩论，特朗普史无前例地亲自到庭旁听，但从大法官们的提问来看，这场宪法之争的走向恐怕不会如他所愿。

本期节目录制于美国时间2026年4月5日上午。

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【时间轴】

00:44 F-15被击落与天价伊朗腹地大营救

06:24 升级困境：特朗普唯一的降温方式就是升级

08:39 伊朗战争目标演变：从政权存续到重塑海湾格局

13:50 美国的战争目标到底是什么？越列越多，越来越模糊

15:44 总统只看到"玫瑰色战况"

19:51 特朗普民调三次断崖

24:41 霍尔木兹海峡封锁

29:26 特朗普的红线画了几条已经数不清

32:01 赫格塞斯大清洗

45:47 邦迪被解雇

49:14 司法部长接任人选大盘点

57:07 下一波清洗：卢特尼克、加巴德、劳工部长？

60:33 最高法院大法官换人窗口

1:06:23 出生公民权之争：第十四修正案与特朗普亲临旁听

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小华：媒体人

【 What We Talked About】

After a U.S. F-15 was shot down, a massively expensive rescue operation unfolded deep inside Iranian territory — a makeshift airfield, transport planes stuck in mud, and stranded aircraft ultimately destroyed before extraction. The whole episode could have been a Hollywood blockbuster, but behind the spectacle lies a deeper strategic dilemma: Trump's only way to de-escalate is to escalate, while the Iranian regime is fighting for its very survival. What was supposed to be a lightning strike has turned into a war of attrition, with each side's objectives drifting further apart and no off-ramp in sight. Meanwhile, rising oil prices, falling approval ratings, and cracks in the Republican base are adding more uncertainty to the equation.

Off the battlefield, turmoil is brewing inside the Trump administration. Attorney General Bondi was fired by Trump in person on the way to the Supreme Court. Defense Secretary Hegseth, gripped by paranoia over his own job security, has launched the largest purge of senior military officials in recent memory. Other cabinet members — including Lutnick and Gabbard — are also reportedly at risk.

At the Supreme Court, oral arguments over birthright citizenship took center stage. Trump made an unprecedented appearance in the courtroom, but judging from the justices' questioning, this constitutional battle is unlikely to go his way.

This episode was recorded on the morning of April 5, 2026, U.S. time.

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【Timeline】

00:44 F-15 shot down and the costly rescue deep inside Iran

06:24 The escalation trap: Trump's only way to de-escalate is to escalate

08:39 Iran's evolving war aims: from regime survival to reshaping the Gulf

13:50 What are America's war objectives? The list keeps growing, the vision keeps blurring

15:44 The president is only seeing the "rosy" version of the war

19:51 Three cliff drops in Trump's approval ratings

24:41 The Strait of Hormuz blockade

29:26 Trump's red lines: too many to count

32:01 Hegseth's military purge

45:47 Bondi fired

49:14 The attorney general succession: a rundown of contenders

57:07 Next wave of firings: Lutnick, Gabbard, Labor Secretary?

60:33 The Supreme Court vacancy window

1:06:23 The birthright citizenship fight: the 14th Amendment and Trump's courtroom appearance

【Who We Are】

The American Roulette is a podcast dedicated to helping the Chinese-speaking community understand fast-changing U.S. politics.

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Talich：Aficionado of American politics, culture, and history

王浩岚 (Haolan Wang): American political enthusiast, chief writer at Lán Mù WeChat Official Account, and peddler of information

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