Special Friday: Dana Perino joins 10MD! Hakeem’s meltdown; Maine Senate shakeup

Summary

10 Minute Drill – Special Friday: Dana Perino Joins 10MD! Hakeem’s Meltdown; Maine Senate Shakeup (May 1, 2026) Host: Matt Whitlock | Special Guest: Dana Perino

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Episode Overview

This special Friday episode of the 10 Minute Drill takes a fast-paced look at breaking political headlines, including a dramatic shakeup in the Maine Senate race, escalating tensions over congressional redistricting, and a lively, heartfelt interview with Dana Perino discussing her new book and reflections on career and mentorship. The episode mixes sharp political analysis with personal anecdotes, offering listeners both insight and entertainment in true 10MD style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Maine Senate Race Shakeup

00:37–04:51

• Governor Janet Mills Withdraws:
  Maine Governor Janet Mills has dropped out of the Senate race, citing a lack of financial resources despite political drive and experience. Schumer’s strategy is criticized for diverting support away from Mills to attack Susan Collins, ultimately leaving Mills without enough backing to continue.

  “Janet Mills might have had Schumer's support, but Schumer's support ended up being more of an anchor because nobody really wants to stand with Chuck Schumer in the Democrat Party right now.” – Matt Whitlock (02:39)

• Controversial Nominee:
  Graham Platner, described as the “Nazi tattoo radical” aligned with Bernie Sanders, becomes the Democratic nominee, prompting alarm over his background and previous statements.

  “Graham Platner is an absolutely terrible candidate. And the Nazi tattoos, the terrible Reddit posts, the comments he's made about how rape is a woman's fault are just the beginning of it.” – Matt Whitlock (03:41)

• Democratic Party Turmoil:
  Most negative oppo research on Platner has actually emerged from within the Democratic Party, suggesting deeper internal fractures.

  “Most of the opposition research you’ve seen on Platner up to this point has actually come from Democrats.” – Matt Whitlock (04:18)

2. Congressional Redistricting & DEI Fallout

04:51–07:18

• Supreme Court Decision:
  The recent Supreme Court decision essentially outlaws racial gerrymandering, sparking outrage from Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries.

  “And now we're at a point where affirmative action is gone, diversity is gone, equity gone, inclusion gone, racial tolerance gone.” – Quoting Hakeem Jeffries (05:19)

  “The Supreme Court is a disgrace. And... in the new Congress, we're going to have to do something about this Supreme Court. And let me be very clear, everything is on the table.” – Quoting Hakeem Jeffries (05:56)

• Democratic Hypocrisy:
  Whitlock highlights the contradiction of Jeffries protesting the decision while supporting Virginia redistricting that also diluted Black votes for Democratic gain.

  “He right now is saying we're gonna blow up the entire system over this decision, even though the maps that he has supported do the exact same thing.” – Matt Whitlock (06:36)

• Republican Countermoves:
  In Florida, Ron DeSantis and the GOP fast-track new district maps, stripping Democrats of seats in response to the events in Virginia.

  “Florida Republicans have already passed in a very rapid two day period their new maps, which will take away four seats from Democrats as a response to what they've done in Virginia.” – Matt Whitlock (07:06)

3. Interview: Dana Perino – Inspiration, Mentorship, and 'Purple State'

07:18–19:56

• Dana’s Role in 10MD:
  Dana Perino is credited as the “spiritual leader” and inspiration for the 10 Minute Drill’s format and tone. The chemistry between Whitlock and Perino is friendly and familial, full of mutual gratitude and lighthearted reminiscing.

  “You’re like the brother I never had.” – Dana Perino (08:52)

• Origin Story – A Tale of Two Introductions:
  Dana recalls seeking out Matt as a political confidant post-White House, alongside a classic Capitol Hill meetup story involving plastic straws and Tortilla Coast.

  “That’s how I remember. And Josh said, I know just the guy. And I thought, that's what I like.” – Dana Perino (08:08)

• On Mentorship & Friendship:
  Dana reflects on a decade-long mentorship with Whitlock, intertwined with personal milestones and a shared sense of professional growth.

  “So you as a mentor, I've been so appreciative for. Gosh, now that's almost 10 years.” – Matt Whitlock (08:59)

• Discussion of 'Purple State':
  Perino’s new book, Purple State: Where Red Meets Blue and Love is Never Black and White, is a New York Times bestseller. Dana describes it as her “labor of love,” inspired by her own and her mentees’ quarter-life crises.

  “One of the books you don't have there is Everything Will Be okay. And that was the one that I wrote specifically for young women in the quarter life crisis, because I went through one and it was really difficult for me...” – Dana Perino (10:16)

  • Book Synopsis & Themes:

    • Focuses on three women in their mid-20s navigating major life decisions, relationships, and career crises through the backdrop of a political campaign.
    • Underlines finding purpose outside one’s original “life plan,” embracing detours, and learning from new experiences.
    • Explores dating across political divides, rural-urban tensions, and the importance of listening to opposing views.

    “You are not stuck. You can go and have an adventure. You can meet people from another walk of life.” – Dana Perino (16:51) “She goes to argue and then she sits on her hand and she says to herself, maybe I should just listen.” – Dana Perino (17:50)

  • Audiobook and Character Details:

    • Playful banter over audiobook accents and casting choices; Rob Lowe is speculated as an ideal “farmer” character if the book goes to screen.

    “Rob Lowe can do any part, but he would be the best farmer.” – Dana Perino (16:22)

    • Rich scene-setting with emphasis on wardrobe and food descriptions as a way of grounding characters in realism.

  • Personal & Professional Reflections:

    • Perino discusses the unpredictability of life paths, the importance of perseverance, and the comfort of faith during uncertain times.

    “The good news is my plan didn't matter at all. And there was a bigger plan for me.” – Dana Perino (12:00)

  • Humorous Anecdotes:

    • Dana’s husband Peter makes a brief, endearing cameo (09:38), adding to the laid-back, conversational tone.

4. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Political Realities:

  “There are treasure troves, more highlighting how unfit he is to be a candidate that go far beyond his lack of intelligence, far beyond his simple rubbing shoulders with Nazis. And if it sounds crazy to you that there could be things worse than that, buckle up.” – Matt Whitlock (04:07)

• On Hypocrisy in Redistricting:

  “Take Hakeem Jeffries and his selective outrage with a massive grain of salt.” – Matt Whitlock (06:51)

• On Professional and Personal Growth:

  “All I had to do was decide ... how hard do I want to work and who do I want to hang around with ... and then it all worked out.” – Dana Perino (12:00)

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Memorable Timestamps

| Time | Segment/Event | |---------|-----------------------------------------------| | 00:37 | Janet Mills withdraws from Maine Senate race | | 03:41 | Graham Platner’s controversy | | 05:19 | Hakeem Jeffries’ redistricting outrage | | 07:18 | Dana Perino joins the podcast | | 10:16 | Discussion of quarter-life crisis in 'Purple State' | | 14:03 | Audiobook character accent banter | | 16:22 | “Rob Lowe as the farmer” casting idea | | 17:50 | Lesson about listening across divides | | 18:44 | Book’s New York Times bestseller status |

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Summary & Takeaway

This episode masterfully combines fast-moving political commentary with a warm, insightful author interview. Whitlock’s analysis of the Maine and national redistricting drama is sharp and critical, calling out hypocrisy on both sides. The conversation with Dana Perino provides listeners with a relatable, hopeful perspective on navigating both politics and personal growth, with her book Purple State presented as a timely guide for finding common ground in a polarized era. The exchange is peppered with humor, authenticity, and genuine affection, making it both informative and uplifting for the audience.

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Transcript

[A]

The Nazi tattoo guy has just secured the nomination for the Maine Senate race. Fighting words are escalating between Hakeem Jeffries and Ron DeSantis over congressional maps. And as a major Friday special, we have Dana Perino joining 10 Minute Drill today. All of that and more on 10 Minute Drill. Everybody, get up. Get up. The story of America is the story of an adventure. I can hear you.

[B]

The rest of the world hears you. We are a nation under God, and I believe God intended for us to be free.

[A]

Yesterday, Maine Governor Janet Mills announced that she was dropping out of the Maine Senate race. While I have the drive and passion, commitment and experience, and above all else, the fight to continue on, I very simply do not have the one thing that political campaigns unfortunately require today. The financial resources. So with Mills stepping aside, Nazi tattoo Graham Platner will be the Democrat nominee in the main Senate race. Now, this is a huge deal, but first, a little bit about that money issue for Janet Mills. Janet Mills is the Schumer handpicked candidate. We know from extensive reporting Schumer recruited her, talked her into running, because she fits an archetype of what Chuck Schumer thinks makes a good candidate. Old, white, established, and potentially able to raise money. But the challenge for Mills is while Schumer had supported her, endorsed her, he spent all his money not promoting Mills, but he using all of it to attack Susan Collins in ways that didn't help her sort of break ahead or raise more small dollar. And the problem for that then is that Graham Platner, Nazi tattoo radical who's aligned with Bernie Sanders. Let's show that tweet, Bernie, congratulating Graham Platner. And Graham Platner saying, would not be here without you. Which is incredible fodder for Republicans to use because Maine is not a far radical left state, even if the Democrat primary and Democrat base is a little bit further out there. But Janet Mills might have had Schumer's support, but Schumer's support ended up being more of an anchor because nobody really wants to stand with Chuck Schumer in the Democrat Party right now. And he didn't use the money behind her to actually support her in the race. He used it simply to attack Susan Collins. And Graham Platner was able to channel off of that. Another interesting anecdote here is Janet Mills, in her desperation, did things like give out stimulus payments to the people of Maine. And people actually wrote letters saying they used their government stimulus check to give campaign donations to Graham Platner. So the writing was on the wall for this in the beginning. But Maine Democrats have a real problem on their hands. Graham Platner is an absolutely terrible candidate. And the Nazi tattoos, the terrible Reddit posts, the comments he's made about how rape is a woman's fault are just the beginning of it. There's lots more to come on this. And one thing that's important to understand is most of the opposition research you've seen on Platner up to this point has actually come from Democrats. There are treasure troves, more highlighting how unfit he is to be a candidate that go far beyond his lack of intelligence, far beyond his simple rubbing shoulders with Nazis. And if it sounds crazy to you that there could be things worse than that, buckle up. Yesterday we talked about the major Supreme Court decision on redistricting, the Louisiana congressional map and the future of the Voting Rights act and the fact that the Supreme Court has now outlawed racial gerrymandering. As you'd expect, the fallout from Democrats has been quite incredible. Here's Hakeem Jeffries. And now we're at a point where affirmative action is gone, diversity is gone, equity gone, inclusion gone, racial tolerance gone. So Kim Jeffries is going through the fact that essentially DEI has been rooted out of the gerrymandering, the election map development process, which is a very good thing for everybody. And we're going to talk a little bit more over the next several weeks about why that is. But Hakeem also took it a step further in another video. The Supreme Court is a disgrace. And Ben, in the new Congress, we're going to have to do something about this Supreme Court. And let me be very clear, everything is on the table. Now as you watch that video and what he's talking about there, all options are on the table. Democrats have already threatened to blow up the Supreme Court to try and impeach justices, to try and create new rules that completely violate the separation of powers in an effort to try and box in and penalize the Supreme Court court. They're saying all options are on the table. Meanwhile, literally last week, Hakeem Jeffries and his super PAC spent more than $30 million on the Virginia congressional map, which explicitly diluted black votes across Virginia, literally got rid of majority minority districts in an effort to help Democrats. He right now is saying we're gonna blow up the entire system over this decision, even though this the maps that he has supported do the exact same thing. It's a little bit extreme. And people in Virginia complained about that issue. This in the Virginia Mercury, which is a left wing publication the proposed redistricting map may help Democrats, but what does it do for black Virginians? Now, this is from Philip Thompson, the executive director of the national black nonpartisan Redistricting Organization. Now, Thompson goes through these maps in Virginia that Hakeem Jeffries spent $30 million that Barack Obama was the face of and points out all the different ways black votes have been diluted into several different districts when if they had kept them compact as black majority minority districts, they could have had as many as three black new congressmen for Virginia through those districts. Instead, Virginia Democrats led by Hakeem Jeffries and Barack Obama diluted those votes across the state to give Democrats more power. But if you look at the candidates for those districts that they've diluted them into right now, if you, it's predominantly going to be white candidates, according to this article. So again, take Hakeem Jeffries and his selective outrage with a massive grain of salt. Meanwhile, down In Florida, Ron DeSantis In Florida, Republicans have already passed in a very rapid two day period their new maps, which will take away four seats from Democrats as a response to what they've done in Virginia. So again, this is a lot of tit for tat arms race going on, but it's, it is far from over. And we will see if other states go back to the drawing board after the Supreme Court decision to get rid of their current majority minority districts that have just been essentially outlawed by the Supreme Court. We have a very, very special treat for you. Most of you know the fact that the 10 minute drill was a project that was essentially thought up by Dana Perino. And so she's been sort of a spiritual leader of this from afar for a very long time. Most of you who know about 10 minute drone might know about it because she has said nice things about it in her podcast on her shows, things like that. I'm so grateful that she's joining us today to talk about her book Purple State and her life and her experience. And we're gonna fit it into two segments today and another one that's gonna come next week. But we're so glad to have her today. Dana. We are so excited to have Dana here. As we have discussed, Dana is the sort of spiritual inspiration for this because she is the one who gave us the idea to do a political notes type of podcast. So having her in here is such a huge honor. A longtime friend and mentor of mine. First off, sometimes when we talk about this, we have different versions of the story of how we met. And I feel like it's sort of, like, iterated over time. But, like, your version of it, I always think is kind of funny to hear because sometimes it's not always right.

[B]

Well, first of all, thank you for having me. I love this podcast. I listen to it every time there's a new download. And you even accommodated me and posted it earlier for me for my day. Absolutely.

[A]

Our most important listener.

[B]

One of the reasons I love it is because you used to do the written version and which I also asked you to do because you have great thoughts. They've helped me so much to think things through. And as I recall, what happened when were you at the NRSC?

[A]

This was 1820. Yeah.

[B]

Okay. So at that point, I've now been out of the White House for 10 years, and I'm working in New York, and we have big elections, we have the midterms, and we have 2020 coming up. And Don Stewart, who was my contact and still a guy I talk to all the time, he worked for Mitch McConnell forever. He was leaving and leaving Washington. And I think, as I recall, I asked Josh Holmes if he could recommend somebody for me that would be like a Don Stewart. I said, I just need someone I can talk to that I can call off the record, check in with, because my sources in D.C. are getting a little light. That's how I remember. And Josh said, I know just the guy. And I thought, that's what I like

[A]

that version of the story. There's that part. But the other part of it, and these two might both be true, is I posted about plastic. Plastic Straws at what's the restaurant on Capitol Hill that's gone now that they.

[B]

Tortilla Coast.

[A]

Tortilla Coast. They were the last holdout of Plastic Straws. And I posted PSA everyone. And then you DM me and said, like, this is hilarious. And you love Tortilla Coast. And I think both those things happen.

[B]

But I also. I loved Senator Orrin Hatch.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And I loved that account.

[A]

Well, that's very kind of you.

[B]

And I didn't know you were behind that. But then when we. When I put all of it together, it was just. We were meant to be. You're like the brother I never had.

[A]

That's how it feels. So you as a mentor, I've been so appreciative for. Gosh, now that's almost 10 years.

[B]

I know. It's kind of interesting because you were already married.

[A]

I think I had just gotten married.

[B]

And you did not have children yet. Now you know, both two and one on the way.

[A]

My Kids see you as, like, another aunt.

[B]

Yeah, I hope. I hope so.

[A]

They're very appreciative. But also, it's been so fun to watch how you've done all the different pieces of media, and Purple State is one I'm super excited about because.

[B]

Yeah, you were there. You knew about Purple St.

[A]

I did. I had. And I didn't tell anybody. I kept your secret.

[B]

Yeah, you did.

[A]

But I feel like what I love about it is the arc of all your previous books are how to get through life, how to improve, how to valuation.

[B]

Look, look, Peter. Sorry. Peter should be sorry.

[A]

We love Peter.

[B]

Hi, Peter. I'm on a podcast with Matt Whitlock. Okay, say hi to Matt. I'll maybe talk to you later, if not. Okay, bye. Sorry.

[A]

Love you, Peter.

[B]

I haven't done that in a long time. Sorry about that. But I knew that he would want to be on the podcast.

[A]

He listens.

[B]

He listens when he's walking.

[A]

Yeah, he is incredibly kind. But Purple State I had been excited about for a long time because I feel like it is a similar message, but different medium from what you've written about before. We have your other books here. We have. You know, I wish someone had told me we have. And the good news is, and we've read all of your books, but this is a new way of sharing the same message of life is going to Be okay. Tell us just a little bit about

[B]

how you made that shift. One of the books you don't have there is Everything Will Be okay. And that was the one that I wrote specifically for young women in the quarter life crisis, because I went through one and it was really difficult for me, I should say. I look back, obviously I'm fine. But going through it when you're in the middle of it, it's sort of miserable. Absolutely. It's something that I see in all of the young women that I mentor. When you hit 24, 25, 26, 27 in that range, you start to say, oh, my gosh, everything that I planned in my life is not happening. My career's not where I thought it would be. Why haven't I gotten the big promotion yet? I haven't met the guy. I thought I would be married by now. Like, nothing is working. And you start to feel like maybe everything you've decided has not been right up to that point. For me. I was working on Capitol Hill and there was no one to date. You know, there's no one. You were lucky. You met somebody in the Senate office. I got very lucky. Somebody Asked me the other day, because this book is about Republicans and Democrats dating. Somebody said, would you have dated? Did you ever date a Democrat? And I said I would have. I just never got asked out at all. But so a woman at my church group, at the Lutheran Church of the Reformation, which is just behind the Supreme Court on East Capitol, at our singles group, she pulled me aside. She said, remember, God says, you're never forgotten. You are written on the palm of his hand. And so you can chill out. It's going to be okay. He says, fear not, don't worry. And maybe a month or so go by, I start to feel a little better. Let me just have the summer. It was the year of the Monica Lewinsky scandal. D.C. was disgusting. And then I meet this guy on an airplane and that was Peter, who's his golf.

[A]

He's the best.

[B]

So we've been together 29 years. And so everything turns, changes and is better. That book. And the good news is, has. There's a couple of reasons, I call it that. And one of them is I had this big plan. I had a big crisis. And when I look back at all my career pivots and relationship pivots and friendships, the good news is my plan didn't matter at all. And there was a bigger plan for me. And all I had to do was decide if I what, how hard do I want to work and who do I want to hang around with and who do I want to follow. And then it all worked out.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I feel like that is exactly the question that I think.in particular, all of them sort of have the same experience. But within the book, it's women navigating this same quarter life crisis experience, experience. And saying, we need to shake things up, we need to reset.

[B]

Well, they're not sure. So Dot works in high tech PR and she's got a boyfriend she's been dating for six months. And she knows that he's ready to perhaps ask her for her hand in marriage. And she's thinking, I don't like this job and I don't like this guy. But she doesn't know what to do.

[A]

Feels a little stuck.

[B]

She feels a little stuck. And she gets an opportunity to go to Wisconsin to work on the presidential election. And she's like, you know, maybe this is my last chance to do something big and different before adulthood sets in. And she convinces her two friends. Mary, who's a corporate lawyer and can work from home, and Harper, who's a disaster. Harper just makes bad decisions and she's trying to get her act together, but she's also the sweetest.

[A]

Oh, of course.

[B]

And actually, all the guys who have read it, when you say, who's your favorite character? It's usually Harper.

[A]

I think that both Harper and Mary are fun. Also, if you listen to the audiobook, the reader does, like, a Long island accent, which is like.

[B]

Can we talk about that for a second? Because I just learned about this on the flight here. Okay.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

But. Okay, let me. Okay. Dot's accent is great.

[A]

Yeah, she's perfect.

[B]

It's just like, normal, like, straight. Okay. And then she's doing Mary. And Mary has a Staten island accent, and that's a different thing altogether. And Christy Cappiello, who helped me. She works for Jesse Water show, she helped me make sure that I got those scenes in Staten Island. Right. She does sound like that. But the Harper accent, I'm like, that's not.

[A]

Brooklyn sails off a little bit. It's a little bit.

[B]

Sometimes it's there and sometimes it's not.

[A]

She also does a British accent. And in one. In first.

[B]

Yes. Because Jeanne Jankowski.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is British.

[A]

And it's an. Okay. I. I wonder, like, if Peter heard.

[B]

I haven't heard that one yet. I'm only on chapter seven. However, I will say.

[A]

But I. I enjoy the audiobook.

[B]

Me, too. I love an audiobook.

[A]

She's done a great job.

[B]

That's new for me. So Lisa Larson is the actress. I.

[A]

She's done really well.

[B]

I listened to her, I was like, oh, wait, this book's kind of good.

[A]

Yeah, it is. No, it really is.

[B]

It's hard to go back because I spent so much time with it on my own. Like 18 months solo, just on weekends. And then you read it, you write it one more time, and then you do the copy edits and you think it's about to come out and you're like, I don't even want to look at it.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

So now listening to it, I was like, oh, I love this.

[A]

This is different. And you have a fresh sort of way of hearing it. I love that one question I had for you. And I don't know if this is something, you know, that you're comfortable with, but if you had your ideal casting for some of these characters, because as you write them, I know you've got a vision and you're so descriptive. One thing that I think people love about the book is every scene is so detailed. Everything from what people look like to what kind of things they're wearing, what kind of things they're holding.

[B]

Peter didn't really like the wardrobe descriptions very much. He was like, why do I need to know? She's wearing cigarette paints.

[A]

What's made of that?

[B]

And I said, but if you read any book, you are talking about what they're wearing. But I did get into the details, even on the food. Like, what are they eating? What does the food look like? How does it feel?

[A]

It paints a picture. Yes, but so in your picture, are there any actors, actresses, people that sort of have a similar face to what you have in mind?

[B]

So here's the thing. I'm writing about 25 year olds. I don't know many actors or actresses who are this age.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

Because the Republican guys that they meet are 30.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So I don't know. My assistant, Kate DiPietro. TikTok Kate. She has great ideas for it in my mind's eye from way back in the day. Of course, it would be like Reese Witherspoon, Marisa Tomei.

[A]

Perfect kind of a girl next door type vibe.

[B]

Yes, I think so. And Harper, I'm not sure.

[A]

Harper's tougher.

[B]

I'm not sure.

[A]

Yeah, Harper's tougher. But I like that because it is sort of a classic girl next door. Anything for the guys.

[B]

Well, all I know is that even if this were to become a show, I do think Rob Lowe would be a great farmer.

[A]

Joe Taylor, I mean, Rob Lowe can

[B]

do any part, but he would be the best farmer.

[A]

He would be.

[B]

So I'm just putting. I'm just manifesting that.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

Well, I don't even know if it will become a show, but I mean,

[A]

I think it will be because I think the pictures are so perfect and I think that the energy for this is what people need.

[B]

Well, and the other thing is, I feel like it's the right book at the right time and that's just luck. But the subtitle is Where Red Meets Blue and Love is Never Black and White. I love that you have little kids. So what I tried to do in here is I hid all the vegetables in the Mac and cheese.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. That's how you get it in here.

[B]

You will learn about realizing that you were born in America, you're educated, you won life's great lottery. Okay? You are not stuck. You can go and have an adventure. You can try something new. You can meet people from another walk of life. You can go for dinner on a farm and wear your high heel stilettos and not realize why that is a faux pas. You can try to Help somebody who's at risk of losing his family farm because of eminent domain pressure. And you can fall in love with small town America.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

And still think you want to come back to New York. But to open your mind and also listen more. There's one scene that I love where at the farm, there's the family dinner. And Dot wants to understand, why did farmers always vote for Democrats? And then they switched and they started voting for Republicans. What happened? So farmer, I don't call him Farmer Joe. Joe Taylor, the farmer. He starts to explain and Dot wants to argue with him about a point that he's making. And she goes to argue and then she sits on her hand and she says to herself, maybe I should just listen.

[A]

Maybe I can learn something. Yeah, I love that. There's so many scenes like that that I think are so thoughtful. This has been a labor of love that I've really loved.

[B]

What do you think of the debate scene?

[A]

I was amazing. It was perfect. Because it helped.

[B]

Actually, you helped me with the debate scene. I had to send it to you. I'm like, am I getting this right? You did.

[A]

You nailed it. But also just the little pieces, the little details of what goes on behind the scenes between things like that was so perfect, but also the way that it's reacted to. People who love politics will really enjoy this because they'll see a lot of things they understand. But people who don't like politics will also learn a lot from it.

[B]

But if you think that you. If you ever have thought you wanted to work on a campaign, it gives you a little taste of what that

[A]

would feel like, which I think everyone, you know, if they can, should experience, because it's a life like nothing else in the world. It's something you only really need to do once or twice to have that experience. But you learn so much and you build so much off of it. So I love this. I hope people have a chance to read it. It is a New York Times bestseller. Congratulations.

[B]

We landed at number three, which feels great.

[A]

That's amazing.

[B]

The one ahead of us is the Correspondent, which I highly recommend. My favorite book from last year, been on the New York times list for 26 weeks. Fully deserving. The other one is a book that's gotten a lot of interest and hype called Yesteryear. And it's about. It's a Good Morning America pick, and it's about a woman who is a trad wife on Instagram. Okay.

[A]

So they're making one that Anne Hathaway bought the rights to she's gonna make. Okay, that's gonna be. Yes.

[B]

Because it's like she's making fun of ballerina farmer.

[A]

Is that the lady ballerina farm?

[B]

Yeah. Is that in Utah?

[A]

That is in Utah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Most of the influencers.

[B]

And then what happens in content. Yes. So what happens in the book is she falls asleep and she wakes up and it's 1855.

[A]

She's got to live the life that she's been cosplaying. Yes.

[B]

I mean, I don't know how the book is, but I'm honored to be in this. In the company of the book. But what I think is so great, obviously, I had the power of Fox News behind me. I had my friends who read early drafts, but now that it's been out a week, there are so many people who have already read it or listening to it. And they finished and they loved it.

[A]

I love that. I mean, that's how I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it reading it. When I got to see some preview versions of it. And now I've enjoyed the other.

[B]

Remember, I was like, wait, would this happen on a campaign?

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You had great stuff. It was so much fun. Hope everyone reads it. Thank you so much to Dana for joining us. We will have more from Dana in next week's episodes, but that is all the time we have for today. Thanks for joining us. Please leave us a review, like, subscribe, tell your friends and have a great weekend.