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Your guide to the Big Beautiful Bill; Huge finale at the Supreme Court
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🎙️ July 1 | The Big Beautiful Bill, SCOTUS Shakeups & Fan Mail Fireworks With the 4th of July deadline looming, the Big Beautiful Bill surges forward—just in time for a vote-a-rama. In today’s episode of the 10 Minute Drill, we tackle the...
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President Trump's big beautiful bill marches onward.
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Ahead of the July 4th deadline.
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We're going to take a look at a huge week at the Supreme Court for President Trump. And lastly, a very fun fan mail segment. All of that and so much more today on 10 Minute Drill.
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Audience Member 1
Everybody get up, get up.
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Speaker 1
The story of America is the story of an adventure.
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I can hear you.
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The rest of the world hears you. We are a nation under God, and I believe God intended for us to be free.
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First to the big beautiful bill or the Senate reconciliation bill.
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Over the weekend there was progress.
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First, a cloture vote that had a little bit of drama. But Vice President Vance came to Capitol Hill, worked with Republicans and they were.
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Able to move this forward, setting up yesterday's marathon. Votorama. Now, for those of you who have.
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Never heard before, the Votarama is a.
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Process through which senators from both parties.
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Can, can advance hundreds, hundreds of amendment proposals on a large piece of legislation like the big beautiful bill. Republicans amendment proposals will be about fine tuning it.
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Democrat proposals will be about trying to.
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Make Republicans look bad with things they vote on. Now that normally goes anywhere from nine to 15 hours.
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Well, Chuck Schumer said in the beginning.
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He wanted to make this as painful as possible.
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But not every Democrat agreed with his strategy.
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Speaker 3
I just want to go home. I've already, I've missed our entire trip to, to the beach. My family's gonna be back before we.
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Having had the opportunity to sit through a number of voteramas myself as a Senate staffer, I can tell you they're not all that fun. But in the end, you normally end.
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Up having the result you knew you.
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Were going to have in the beginning. It's just how much ad content can you make here?
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One thing to watch here is the Senate parliamentarian.
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The Senate parliamentarian acts as a referee.
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On some of the very specific Senate rules.
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In this case reconciliation.
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We've talked before, Reconciliation is the tool by which the majority party in the Senate can move bills along by a 51 seat majority instead of the normal 60 required for substantive legislation. Now, some have been frustrated in the.
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Last few days as the parliamentarian has ruled certain things can't go in the bill. Some have suggested that people like Vice President J.D. vance or Senate Majority Leader John Thune.
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Should overrule or fire the parliamentarian. One reason that they're not is if.
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We do that, we will likely lose.
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Our own moderate votes or we would.
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Likely lose our own moderate votes.
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The other reason being in the past.
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The parliamentarians rulings have been very helpful to Republicans. In 2021. Democrats tried to advance a major amnesty.
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Plan and a job killing minimum wage.
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Hike in their Covid relief bill and the parliamentarians struck that out. So we'll continue to watch how that unfolds. The other dynamic to watch here that we've been talking about for a few.
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Months is the Congressional Budget Office cbo.
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Most of Democrats primary attacks against this.
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Legislation are based on things the CBO has ruled. We've talked in the past about major.
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Flaws in CBO's analysis. Just last week we talked about how CBO is failing to take into account the growth that comes from actually cutting taxes. CBO's analysis actually says that the taxes.
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That you have not paid yet for.
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Money you have not earned yet are government resources. But they also in the past have.
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Gotten a number of things wrong.
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Here's a look at that.
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These are some of CBO's biggest misses. Look at those 2017 tax cut revenue misses. It was a $2.3 trillion miss when you put up the projected number versus the actual number at the Inflation Reduction act, the cost of that, the projected 58 billion in savings, the actual was 428 billion in deficits.
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With that in mind, today we're going to do a little bit of myth.
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Versus fact on the big beautiful bill. First myth Big this bill is a giant tax handout to the wealthy.
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But Republicans meanwhile believe in giving most of the help to the people at the very top.
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The reality is this is a tax cut for everyone. This is a tax cut that will help everyone up and down the income scale. But most importantly, without this bill, every family in America will see a massive tax hike because of the expiration of the 2017 middle class tax cuts which as we know benefited everyone. But if you want to look at what it does look like when a party does massive tax handouts to the.
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Wealthy, look at what Chuck Schumer and.
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Democrats did in 2021-2024 when they passed.
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Massive tax giveaways to their donors at solar companies and other green energy companies. Second, this bill only helps large corporations.
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They are willing to throw millions of Americans under the bus so that they can help out a handful of their billionaire buddies and giant corporations.
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The reality is the tax policy in this is incredibly helpful for businesses of all sizes.
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Here is one thing the National Federation.
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Of Independent Businesses said it's one of the most pro small business pieces of legislation in recent history.
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Third myth Republicans are cutting Medicaid.
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The reality here is Medicaid is not getting cut. Medicaid is going to continue to grow with the focus on cutting fraud, waste and abuse here. They're able to cut some of the future growth, but, but the program will.
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Continue to expand beyond what it is now.
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So there are no actual cuts to Medicaid. In this next myth, this is going to hurt people who are currently relying on Medicaid. As we've talked about extensively here. This is going to help people that are on Medicaid who actually need to be on Medicaid by taking people who should not be on it off the program.
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So right now we know there's about.
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70 million people in this country on Medicaid, but only 35 million people below the poverty line.
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We know that there is a large number of able bodied young men who do not have disabilities or, or dependents.
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Who are playing an exorbitant amount of video games. We actually have that research while having taxpayers fund their health care through Medicaid. We also know there are millions of illegal immigrants currently on Medicaid who are not supposed to be on it.
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This focus of getting them off Medicaid.
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With eligibility checks is incredibly popular, but.
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Also is going to make the program.
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Work better for the widows, orphans and people with disabilities who actually need it. An incredibly, incredibly popular premise. Another Democrat myth has been this is going to raise energy costs. Now, the logic on this one is really, really difficult to follow from Democrats, but their primary argument has been they.
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Spent hundreds of billions of dollars forcing a green transition to things like wind and solar. This will slow that down and somehow down the road that will lead to.
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Higher energy costs for people. What we really know is in the.
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Big beautiful bill, there is a lot.
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Of reform to things like permitting that will create more and more energy resources which will drive down the cost of energy and explode economic growth. We are not necessarily against all wind.
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And solar, but we do believe that.
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If wind and solar can only survive on gigantic government subsidies, that's a problem. Republicans have focused on trying to pull.
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Back some of the gold bars off.
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The Titanic green energy grants that Joe Biden signed probably through auto pen at.
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The end of the administration.
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But the other key point here is.
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The Democrats and media have done an amazing job destroying, destroying the reputation of.
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This bill as the big beautiful bill.
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But when you look at the individual.
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Components of this, they're all incredibly popular.
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Last week was a monumental week at.
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The United States Supreme Court to wrap up this term. First, as we talked about earlier last.
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Week, a Tennessee case allowing the state.
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Of Tennessee to ban dangerous experimental trans surgeries and treatments for children. The Supreme Court upheld Tennessee's ability to do that. That was a huge case early in the week. The second huge decision last week was.
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In a case called Mahmoud v. Taylor.
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We talked about that extensively when or arguments happened in April.
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A diverse coalition of parents in Maryland.
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Had sued over the ability to opt their children out of what they described as very offensive over sexualized curriculum to.
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Their very small children as young as 3 and 5 years old. Based on both just their right as.
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Parents, but also on religious grounds.
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They found that it violated their own religious traditions.
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The Supreme Court sided with those parents.
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Here's Justice Alito for the majority of a government cannot condition the benefit of a free public education on parents acceptance of instruction.
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That poses a very real threat of undermining the religious beliefs and practices those.
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Parents wish to instill. What was alarming was the dissent from.
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The three liberal justices on the court who argued that the ability for parents to opt their children out of offensive curriculum could be the end of public schooling. The liberal justices wrote, this will be chaos for this nation's public schools, and both education and children will suffer if parents are allowed to opt their children out of these lessons.
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Sotomayor worried about the chilling effect of.
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The ruling, which would make schools more hesitant to offer such classes in the future.
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So again, these justices are arguing that.
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It'S bad for public schooling for parents to have a say in what their.
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Children learn in school. I think that there's a very good.
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Argument to make that by getting schools.
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To focus back on core subjects, it.
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Can actually save public schools.
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So hopefully the lesson on this carries out.
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But the third and perhaps most important.
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Case to the Trump administration focused on that issue of nationwide injunctions.
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One thing we've talked about quite a bit here is the tool that certain district court judges around the country have used to create nationwide policy with their.
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Rulings, even if their jurisdiction covers just a small district.
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Here's Justice Barrett describing the issue.
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Nothing like a universal injunction was available at the founding, or for that matter for more than a century thereafter. Thus, under the Judiciary act, federal courts.
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Lack authority to issue them. So so what Justice Barrett there is arguing, which is what the majority argued, is judges have the ability to grant.
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Relief to the parties before them, but.
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That doesn't mean they can grant it to anyone with a similar situation around the country. One thing that commentators found particularly notable, though, was a major hyperbolic dissent from Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson. Jonathan Turley described it as hyperbolic to the point of hyperventilation. Here's Justice Jackson, she writes that the majority decision gives the Executive the go ahead to sometimes wield the kind of unchecked, arbitrary power the founders crafted our Constitution to eradicate. It's not difficult to predict how all this ends. In short, what Justice Jackson's arguing there.
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Is if one district judge doesn't have.
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The ability to set national policy like an executive or like a legislator, our.
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Country is going to fall apart.
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But let's continue.
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At the very least, I lament that.
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The majority is so caught up in.
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Minutiae of the government's self serving finger pointing arguments that it misses the plot.
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But a few other things that Justice Jackson used in her dissent that really turned heads.
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First, she invoked Martians. A Martian arriving here from another planet would see these circumstances and surely wonder what good is the Constitution then?
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I personally have not really considered what Martians might think of our Constitution. Another piece there is, she said, the words full stop. Everyone is contained by the law and there should be no exceptions.
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And for that to actually happen, courts.
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Must have the power to order everyone, including the executive, to follow the law full stop.
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Now when you read that, it sounds.
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A little bit like she's writing for social media.
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She did another thing just like that.
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When she used the phrase wait for.
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It instead to the majority, the power.
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Hungry actors are wait for it, the district courts.
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So this did meet a lot of ridicule, in part because the logic in.
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It when she argues things like we.
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Shouldn'T have to deal with the minutiae.
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Of complex legal policy.
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You're a Justice on the Supreme Court.
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We expect you to spend some time in the minutiae, but then also to write this as if it was written for being read aloud by Rachel Maddow here. But you can understand why Justice Amy.
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Coney Barrett from the right took exception.
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With a lot of things she wrote.
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We will not dwell on Justice Jackson's.
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Argument, which is at odds with more than two centuries worth of precedent, not.
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To mention the Constitution itself. We observe only this.
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Justice Jackson decries an imperial executive while embracing an imperial judiciary. So Justice Barrett, a longtime law professor, takes a very professorial approach to begin pushing back on Justice Jackson's writing.
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But my favorite part of Justice Barrett's writing came here.
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Justice Jackson, however, chooses a startling line of attack that is tethered neither to.
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These sources nor frankly to any doctrine whatsoever.
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Waving away attention to the limits on judicial power as a mind numbingly technical.
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Query, she offers a vision of the.
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Judicial role that would make even the.
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Most ardent defender of judicial supremacy blush so again, when she takes on Justice.
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Jackson for dismissing the conversation as mind numbingly technical, just like Justice Jackson also.
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Dismissed it as minutiae, she's pointing out the fact this is our jobs as judges to get into these complex questions.
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Of separation of powers, even if Justice Jackson is mostly leading by emotion here. But Justice Barrett really reminded people exactly.
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Why conservatives were so pleased about President.
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Trump's decision to pick her on the Supreme Court. Here's President Trump on her opinion.
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I just have great respect for her. I always have. And her decision was brilliantly written today from all accounts. Yeah.
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So add Justice Barrett's writing on nationwide injunctions to some other incredibly important writing that she had on the Tennessee case about protecting children. And add that to a number of historic votes she has had since she was on the Supreme Court. Chevron deference, racial preferences, Bruin protecting the second Amendment, voter id, President Trump's immunity.
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Case, a dozen others. Justice Barrett has overwhelmingly been on the originalist side here and in a lot.
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Of ways done had decisions that I think President Trump has a lot to be pleased with. So last week we talked about New.
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York Democrat mayoral nominee Zoran the Destroyer.
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Over the weekend, he was pressed on one of his particular policy proposals focused on increasing taxes on white people.
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I'm gonna quote it for folks is to shift the tax burden from overtaxed homeowners in the outer boroughs to more expensive homes in richer and whiter neighborhoods. Explain why you are bringing race into your tax proposal.
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That is just a description of what we see right now. It's not driven by race. It's more of an assessment of what neighborhoods are being undertaxed versus overtaxed.
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So as we talked about last week, that is going to be a tough race for Democrats around the country to explain. In a lot of ways it is the perfect candidate for Democrats in 2025. A socialist anti Semite who working class voters actually don't support, which is what we saw in the primary. But but rich largely white liberals think is a great answer for the working class.
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On Friday, Canada surprised the entire world.
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By announcing they would place a digital services tax like the European Union currently has on United States tech companies. President Trump met that with fury, announcing that we would be pausing any trade negotiations with Canada as long as that existed. Here's what happened over the weekend.
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The maximum pressure campaign from President Trump on the Canadians is working because just after President Trump announced that he was going to cut off trade talks with our neighbors to the north, they decided to turn off a new tax one day before the first payments were coming due.
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That maximum pressure campaign was incredibly important because those taxes were going to come due in one day. But still, since they have pulled that.
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Back, there seems to be new momentum.
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For a deal with Canada. But we'll continue to see how the.
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EU's version of this plays out with.
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UK, US and EU trade deals.
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All right, we're back with another fan mail segment. These are a lot of fun. First, a positive comment.
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Debbie Fournier 3692 Love your 10 minute drill. Seeing this for the first time then Julia B 6236 My first time too.
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Unfortunately, there's a lot of misinformation. So much of this sounds good, but when you dig to the meat of it, it is not.
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Do you know any illegal immigrants? Do you know anyone that's actually receiving aid illegally? This is just not true, my dear Julia.
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Not knowing any illegal immigrants does not mean there are no illegal immigrants in this country. According to the Biden administration's most conservative estimates, the There are between 11 and.
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15 million illegal immigrants in this country.
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The reality is it's much closer to 20 because of so many that made it across the border without any kind of detection. Also, the fact that you don't know anyone who's illegally getting Medicaid benefits also doesn't mean that there aren't people getting them. Even cbo, who's been incredibly unfriendly to.
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Republicans, has found millions of people getting benefits like Medicaid illegally. So Julia, thank you for tuning in. Please keep watching and we will continue to provide you with the best information and no misinformation.
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For today's you can't.
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Make it up segment. We have a humdinger from the Washington Post. The Democrat National Committee is calling for an organizing summer where they're going to.
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Take their fight to a few new forums. From book clubs to online sports forums.
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To WhatsApp groups and Nextdoor. If there's one thing Nextdoor needs, it's between notes about missing cats and notes about fire alarms going off down the street.
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It's a plug from Beatrice, your local blue haired activist.
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You add in book clubs and online sports forums and these are places that people go to to escape politics.
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So the Democrat guidance to inject more.
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Politics into it isn't going to help their brand or their popularity among normal people who just wanna go about their days. This reminds me a lot of the Kamala Harris era guidance that she might.
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Have won the election so if she.
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Had figured out how to serve political ads in video games and Twitch streams.
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A little bit more.
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If people aren't buying your message, they definitely don't want it in their face even more. That is all the time we have for today. Thank you so much for joining us on 10 Minute Drill. Please leave us a review, leave us a comment, tell your friends, have a great day.