On this episode, we sit down with producer, engineer, and musician Jack Shirley for a deep dive into the craft and philosophy behind his work. We talk about why live recording remains such a powerful and underrated way to capture raw emotion, energy, and musical chemistry—and how Jack has built a career around preserving that human feel in a world obsessed with perfection. We also explore the role that pop punk and the broader Northern California scene played in shaping his taste, his work ethic, and his sense of community. Along the way, Jack highlights some of the Nor Cal gems—bands, venues, moments, and scene staples—that left their mark on him and continue to influence the records he makes today.

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