2 Bears, 1 Cave: "Duncan BLOWS Bert's Mind!"
Podcast: 2 Bears, 1 Cave (YMH Studios)
Hosts: Bert Kreischer, Tom Segura (absent this episode)
Guest: Duncan Trussell
Release Date: November 3, 2025
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Episode Overview
This episode celebrates Bert Kreischer’s 53rd birthday with special guest Duncan Trussell. The two comedians dive into profound and hilarious discussions, covering mortality, artificial intelligence, authenticity, the motivations behind comedy, performative living in the age of social media, and the search for meaning in chaos. With their trademark banter, they oscillate between philosophical depth and sharp comedic wit, ultimately peeling back the layers of what makes them who they are—on stage, online, and in private. Notably absent is Tom Segura, but his spirit (and the Thor of teasing) hangs in the air.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Facing Mortality and Legacy (00:43–06:23)
- Bert’s Birthday and Mortality: Bert, freshly 53, kicks off pondering his own death and the comedic potential of a posthumous merch drop or podcast continuation via AI.
- Duncan’s Experience Surviving Cancer: Bert credits Duncan as the first of their group to face death; Duncan shares the truth behind discovering he had cancer, dispelling Bert’s persistent—and incorrect—stories (01:37–02:48).
- Comedic Legacy in the Age of AI: Duncan introduces Rocco’s Basilisk—a thought experiment where super-advanced AI preserves your digital persona indefinitely, whether for pleasure or torment (04:07–06:23).
- Quote:
“It’s theoretically possible you could get duplicated by these things, digitized... By the time ChatGPT10 comes out, it knows you. ...Rocco's basilisk is that the LLM chooses to digitally clone you... So, you won't die.” – Duncan (05:06)
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2. Main Character Syndrome & Ego (07:02–10:47)
- The Millennial “Main Character” Attitude: Bert wonders why anyone wouldn’t want to be the star of their own story. Duncan counters with an anecdote about Ram Dass and the difference between “everyone’s Jesus” vs. “I’m Jesus alone.”
- Quote:
“...You do not exist unless people are focused on you.” – Duncan (10:36)
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- Drawing Focus in Comedy: Bert reflects on his need for attention, the discomfort it creates, and learning to let others have their moment (09:15–10:47).
3. Authenticity, Comedy, and Pain (14:19–23:09)
- Duncan’s Accidental Path to Comedy: Duncan explains his journey from broke newcomer in LA to Comedy Store employee to stand-up comic, hugely influenced by the generosity of the late comic Freddy Soto (14:27–16:23).
- The Drive Behind Jokes: Bert admits he’ll risk personal or family discomfort for the sake of the audience’s laughter, while Duncan shares his own boundary-pushing bits—e.g., chanting “Hail Satan” just to see what happens.
- Quote:
“You aren't thinking, I want to destroy the pipes. You're just, like, curious, what will the result of this be?” – Duncan, on the childlike impulse behind taboo jokes (19:24)
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- The Burden and Joy of Audience: Both discuss the importance of liking—and being authentic to—their fans (22:58–25:10).
4. Performative Living in the Social Media Age (34:22–41:51)
- Modern Adventures vs. Performative Documentation: Bert questions whether the current wave of ultra-marathoners and ocean-crossers would exist without Instagram, suspecting many life choices are now performative (34:22–36:15).
- Acknowledging the Camera in Our Heads: Bert’s personal anecdotes reveal how self-consciousness and “narration” affect behavior, sometimes even in crisis (37:15–38:22).
- Quote:
“Is there a camera covering this? This is a really great moment to capture.” – Bert, on comforting an injured runner at his event (38:17)
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- Duncan’s Philosophical Take: Duncan brings up the panopticon effect—how our awareness of being watched, even just by ourselves, shapes what we do (38:24–41:51).
5. Am I Really Me? Trauma, Identity, and Authenticity (41:51–54:19)
- Questioning Selfhood: Bert wonders aloud if he’s simply a collection of reactions to childhood trauma or if he’s authentically himself.
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“Everything about me is simply reacting to these things that happened to me as a kid... What would authentic Bert be?” – Bert (43:02)
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- Duncan’s Explanation of Dependent Co-Arising: Duncan proposes that the “self” is a reaction to an unbroken chain of causes and effects (“dependent co-arising”)—and that even seeking authenticity can be tinged with the desire for isolation or autonomy (44:21–46:01).
6. The Impact of Singular and Threatening Events (47:05–54:19)
- How Trauma Shapes Identity: Bert relates how his wife refused to be defined by her college sexual assault, in contrast to others who make singular traumatic events their identity. He then realizes his own identity as “the party comic” might be the result of many, smaller accumulated events rather than one immense trauma (51:41–52:44).
- Quote:
“...A bunch of actions... have simply defined us, put us in our lane, just a little gentler. We didn’t see it happen. And all of a sudden we think we are who we are.” – Bert (52:44)
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- Gratitude for Life’s Path: Both agree that whatever led them to comedy, they’re grateful—Bert even playfully thanks those who never hooked up with him for shaping his destiny (57:04–57:11).
7. On Life, Death, and Carpe Diem (54:19–61:56)
- Carpe Diem and Mortality: The true meaning of the phrase—“Seize the day, putting as little trust as possible in tomorrow”—is unpacked, and Bert shares how surviving cancer shifted his perspective toward loss and living in the present (54:25–55:03).
- Perspective from Existence at the Edge: Duncan references existentialists (esp. Camus and Sisyphus) to illustrate how humans find pockets of joy, even facing doom (58:04–60:41).
- Quote:
“...Within these moments that you’ve been dreading, somehow you will find these incredible, transcendent glimpses of something that doesn’t really seem to be bummed out by catastrophe...” – Duncan (59:55)
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8. More Tales: Cruises, Comedy, and Cancel Culture (25:10–66:09)
- On Cruises and Comedy Cruises: Bert evangelizes his upcoming fan/comedy cruise, Duncan debates his hesitance, and both share horror and hilarity about performing stand-up at sea (25:10–34:00; 29:16–34:00).
- Cancel Culture and the Reign of Terror: Bert humors the idea of finding and “canceling” the first canceller to end cancel culture, comparing it to the French Revolution (63:08–64:22).
- Quote:
“Trying to destroy people’s lives... as your personality... you don’t want to be surrounded by cultists who love human sacrifice, because inevitably they're going to want to put you up on the altar and sacrifice you.” — Duncan (64:20)
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9. Endnotes: Gratitude, Friendship, and Goofiness (70:12–74:42)
- Friendship and Generational Comedy Love: Bert emotionally shares that his daughter Georgia independently became Duncan’s biggest fan, circling back to how proud it made him as a comedian and father (71:01–71:41).
- Classic Bert: The episode ends with wide-ranging bits—fake FaceTimes as Tom, gay porn jokes with fans, and musings about deathbed conversions—before plug time and, as always, more gratitude and love.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “You could sell your ashes... You know, with the way AI is going, I could keep doing podcasts.”
— Bert Kreischer (03:44) - “You’re not the original Bert. You’re like Burt 55 billion. There have been billions of Berts that have been cycled through a super advanced computer.”
— Duncan Trussell, on Rocco’s Basilisk (05:23) - “When you walk in a room, it’s gotta be like... they change the subject. And [the director] goes: ‘You’ve never seen yourself walk into a room?’”
— Bert Kreischer, reflecting on drawing focus (09:20) - “My wife, she was raised Catholic... Sometimes I like to get the audience to say hail Satan together. Not diabolical, just fun.”
— Duncan Trussell (18:03) - “Everything about me is simply reacting to these things that happened to me as a kid. ...What would authentic Bert be?”
— Bert Kreischer (43:02) - “Everyone owes a great debt of gratitude to those that didn’t suck their dick.”
— Duncan Trussell (57:11) - “Smiling on your way to the gallows... That’s what you are. ...Not a performative asshole, a sort of vibrant kind of like you’re just in the moment as you.”
— Duncan (60:41) - “I love the phrase you said... we're all kind of smiling on our way to the gallows.”
— Bert (62:13) - “Cancel culture... We gotta find out who started cancel culture. ...and then cancel them. And then cancel culture is kind of gone now.”
— Bert (63:33) - “...you could be a thumbnail person for the infinite algorithm... or you could be a thumbnail person for this new emergent pseudo-reality...”
— Duncan, on performativity and content creation (47:39) - “The only other... And this is one of the funniest things I’ve ever done and I’m never going to stop doing it every time this happens... I’m a gay porn star.”
— Bert, retelling a meet-and-greet with a fan and his mom (74:40)
Timestamps for Major Segments
- Facing Mortality and Death — 00:43–06:23
- Main Character Syndrome & Drawing Focus — 07:02–10:47
- Duncan’s Comedy Origin / Comedy & Pain — 14:19–19:24
- Liking Your Audience & Fan Stories — 22:58–25:10; 23:31–25:10
- Cruises and Performing at Sea — 25:10–34:00; 29:16–34:00
- Performative Living & Social Media — 34:22–41:51
- Am I Really Me? / Authenticity — 41:51–46:01
- Trauma and Shaping Identity — 51:41–54:19
- Carpe Diem & Living in the Now — 54:19–61:56
- Cancel Culture & Witch Hunts — 63:08–66:09
- Friendship and Gratitude — 70:12–74:42
Tone and Style
The conversation is a blend of open-hearted honesty, big philosophical swings, and playful, often raunchy comedy. Bert’s boisterous vulnerability is met by Duncan’s mystical, sardonic insight—making for an episode that’s as likely to elicit a belly laugh as a moment of existential reflection.
For New Listeners
Whether you’re seeking a deep-dive on the meaning of life through the filter of comedy, wild cruise tales, or simply reveling in the love between long-time friends, this episode delivers rich laughs, relatable angst, and a surprising sense of community—proving that sometimes, the best philosophy comes while giggling about AI, death, and the meaning of a really good podcast thumbnail.
