2 Bears, 1 Cave: “My Dad Was Probably a Murderer” w/ Kirk Fox

Date: November 17, 2025
Hosts: Tom Segura & Kirk Fox (subbing for Bert Kreischer)
Location: YMH Studios

Episode Overview

In this darkly hilarious episode, Tom Segura sits down with comedian/actor Kirk Fox for a freewheeling, riff-heavy conversation that spirals from childhood memories to meditations on serial killers, family dysfunction, the reality of prison, and why Kirk suspects his dad “may have been a murderer.” The episode’s main theme is an irreverent exploration of morbid curiosity, male friendship, and the fine line between comedy and true crime—complete with signature Bears absurdity, wildcard tangents, and more than a few outrageous confessions.

Key Topics and Segments

1. Kirk Fox’s Upbringing and Tennis as a Life Agent

[01:00 – 04:30]

• Tom introduces Kirk as a prolific actor and comedian with a penchant for “playing guys on the way to prison.”
• Kirk reveals that tennis has landed him every job—essentially acting as his “agent” in life.
  • Quote [01:49] Kirk: “Tennis has been my agent for the whole run. Any job I’ve ever gotten was because of tennis.”
• Discussion of tennis and golf as “elite” sports, but Kirk refutes coming from wealth (“I didn’t see him work much, I just came from a family.” [02:47]).
• Kirk’s dad, a self-described “inventor,” simply invented ways not to work—foraging with a bamboo stick on the beach, driving Kirk to tennis but never working a steady job.

2. Home Life, Generational Traditions, and Outdoor Showers

[09:10 – 18:00]

• Kirk shares about his mom’s reclusive life, his grandmother living upstairs, and his own childhood in what he calls the “1700s” (saving money, tree limbs for Christmas trees, outdoor showers).
  • Quote [11:48] Kirk: “My dad just didn’t like to spend much money… I’d say I grew up in the 1700s.”
• His family home life was unconventional (“My dad married my mom and just moved in with her and her mother...I’m following the tradition of not working. Milking a woman.” [16:27])
• Tales of phone calls routed through different rooms, odd family rituals, and an outdoor shower a mile from the beach (“I liked it because you could look at beautiful women while you shower and pee.” [18:00])

3. The “Peeing Outside” Bit and Family Ritual

[18:15 – 22:55]

• Tom and Kirk bond over the pleasures of peeing outdoors; Kirk discusses his treasured “pee tree” ritual.
• He and his daughter share the experience—she learns to pee standing up on a mound (“It was the only thing we really had in common: pissing on stuff.” [21:52])
  • Quote [21:13] Kirk: "When I pee now, I put my hands on my waist. It's a power move."
• This segues to a riff about women not needing to sit to pee (“Dumb broads. They can just stand and just fire.” [22:37], Tom, mocking tone)

4. Dark Comedy: Pissing, Choking, and Consent

[18:26 – 29:19]

• Spirals into a tongue-in-cheek, taboo-laden discussion about sexual fetishes—urinating/choking during sex, with “consent” as a punchline.
• Tom confesses to learning about consent the hard way (“First time, I didn’t ask. I just peed on somebody…she was asleep.” [24:10])
• The running joke: their friendship is “urine-based,” and both joke about not liking consent (“Big fan of consent. I don’t really like it.” [29:17], Kirk).

5. Serial Killers and the Mythos of Murder

[25:15 – 41:00+]

• Extended riff on notable serial killers:
  • BTK documentary (“He was the city controller…really good at his job!” [26:18], Tom)
  • “Where didn’t Bundy do some work?” [09:00], Tom
  • Rodney Alcala (“the dating game killer”), Ed Gein, Tommy Lynn Sells (70+ kills as a drifter), etc.
• Discuss how modern technology (DNA, cameras) has “ruined” the heyday of prolific serial killers.
  • Quote [34:15] Tom: “Do you ever think…the age of the great serial killer is gone? DNA and cameras are everywhere. You can’t get away with shit.”
• Kirk reflects on his own “drifter” blood (“My dad was. He drifted on a 1947 Indian Chief motorcycle with his dog Bruce on the gas tank.” [47:36])
• The comic bit: friends and comedians they suspect could become “the next killer,” and riffing on methods and prison popularity.

6. Prisons: From Supermax to Stand-up Gigs Behind Bars

[41:18 – 43:30]

• Tom and Kirk look up the “Supermax” inmate roster (Ted Kaczynski, El Chapo, etc) and discuss prison lore.
• Kirk considers himself suited to prison life—liking the isolation and simple living (“I travel light. This outfit I’ve had on for two weeks…I’m wired for it.” [47:12])
• They muse about stand-up comedy for prisoners (Jeff Ross anecdote about murderers in the front row).

7. Kirk’s Dad: Was He a Murderer?

[48:15 – 50:35]

• The titular theme: Kirk tells a chilling story of his father writing “Bruce” (the dog’s name) in blood on the walls after Bruce was killed, and how this (combined with dad’s laconic toughness and lack of work ethic) makes Kirk suspect his dad could have been a murderer.
  • Quote [49:06] Kirk: “That’s why we thought my dad was probably a murderer, because he wrote Bruce in blood and we didn’t even know he could spell.”
• Speculates further based on other odd family details (“No Novocaine for teeth, cut off thumb with a buzz saw—just said, ‘Ah, hell.’” [49:56])

8. Notorious Comics: Vince Champ and Secrets of Dark Comedy

[53:06 – 66:44]

• Discussion of Vince Champ, a former “Star Search” winner whose touring schedule aligned with a string of assaults—Tom and Kirk evaluate his stand-up clip and reflect on “clean comics” hiding a dark side.
  • Quote [55:22] Tom: “He might have had a clean act, which is like…these clean comics are the scariest dudes on the planet.”
• They joke about using his old material (“I might snag a few of these jokes. He’s not going to need them.” [64:03], Kirk).
• Musing that a comedian’s “best sets” might drive their criminal impulses (“When you crush is when you go…that’s why I’m always pretty mediocre.” [66:21], Kirk).

9. FBI Fantasies, Cover Roles, and Comedy as Confession

[44:12 – 67:00+]

• Both joke about failed attempts to join the FBI (Kirk: rejected after casting agents saw him in “Wyatt Earp;” Tom’s grandfather was FBI).
• Kirk reveals he “studied behavioral profiling” in college, wanted to be like John Douglas.
• They close with thoughts on cover identities and Kirk’s family/teacher roles as “good cover” for a killer (“I can’t wait till my daughter turns me in.” [61:15], Kirk).
• Jokes about marriage and family as performative—“My marriage is a cover. It’s all that.” [67:05], Kirk.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Tennis as a Life Agent

• [01:49] Kirk: “Tennis has been my agent for the whole run. Any job I’ve ever gotten was because of tennis.”

On Family Dynamics & Class

• [11:48] Kirk: “My dad just didn’t like to spend much money…I’d say I grew up in the 1700s.”

Peeing Rituals

• [21:13] Kirk: “When I pee now, I put my hands on my waist. It’s a power move.”

On Consent

• [29:17] Kirk: “Big fan of consent. I don’t really like it.”

On Serial Killers’ Lost Era

• [34:15] Tom: “Do you ever think…the age of the great serial killer is gone? DNA and cameras are everywhere. You can’t get away with shit.”

Reasons for Suspecting Dad

• [49:06] Kirk: “That’s why we thought my dad was probably a murderer, because he wrote Bruce in blood and we didn’t even know he could spell.”

On Clean Comics

• [55:22] Tom: “He might have had a clean act, which is like…these clean comics are the scariest dudes on the planet.”

Comedy Drives Crime

• [66:21] Kirk: “When you crush is when you go…that’s why I’m always pretty mediocre. I ride the middle just to avoid.”

Highlighted Timestamps

• 01:00 – 04:30 – Tennis, acting careers, Kirk’s background
• 16:08 – 18:00 – Grandma, lath house, childhood home life
• 21:13 – 22:53 – Peeing rituals with daughter, gender commentary
• 24:00 – 29:19 – Consent riff and “urine-based” friendship
• 34:15 – 41:00 – Serial killer era, “hobo wrongdoings,” prison fantasies
• 47:36 – 49:06 – Story of Kirk’s dad and Bruce, murder speculation
• 53:06 – 66:44 – Vince Champ, comedy’s dark underbelly, “cover acts”
• 67:00 – end – FBI jokes, family as cover, closing reflections

Episode Tone and Style

True to 2 Bears, 1 Cave, the entire conversation flows with camaraderie, dark wit, and self-aware inappropriateness. Kirk’s dry, deadpan adds a layer of absurd gravitas to tales of family oddities. Tom’s incredulity and willingness to play along creates an atmosphere where taboo subjects (serial killers, sexual quirks, criminal fantasies) get both the comedic and the critical treatment.

Expect:

• Non-stop riffing and “bit escalation”
• Surprising moments of dark personal history
• Sincere chemistry between Tom and Kirk
• Jokes that dance right up to the line—then gleefully cross it

For New Listeners

This episode is a master class in dark, confessional comedy. If you enjoy the Bears’ trademark blend of shock, oversharing, and banter that both satirizes and celebrates true crime fascination (and yourself wondering if everyone’s family is this weird), it’s essential listening. Be ready for laughs, cringes, and some unexpectedly poignant reflections on fathers, failings, and the odd rituals that bind us.

Skip to:

• [18:26] for peeing/choking/consent riffs
• [25:15] for serial killer lore and prison talk
• [47:36] for the “my dad was probably a murderer” story
• [53:06] for dark comedy and Vince Champ
• [66:21] for Kirk’s philosophy on mediocrity and comedy as safety from criminal urges

Summary:
A comedy deep-dive into true crime, dysfunctional family lore, and the beautiful weirdness of male friendship—with more urine jokes and serial killer references than any other podcast would dare.