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Debra Roberts (0:33)
Hello, Everybody. Welcome to 2020 the After Show. I'm Debra Roberts and as always, I'm so glad that you're spending some time with us today. We have got a special episode. If you've been with us, you know that we typically take you behind the scenes of our latest 2020 program. But today we're going to take a little detour with somebody who spent a lot of time examining acts of betrayal and deceit. We're going to hear from Andrea Gunning. She hosts a popular true crime PODC called Betrayal. It is at the center of almost everything that they are showing us. It inspired the hit series Betrayal, Secrets and Lies. This show focuses not just on horrific crimes of fraud, double lives and deep deception, the kinds of things that you see on 2020 programs a lot. But most important, it celebrates the remarkable resilience of the people who have overcome the unthinkable. So today, Andrea is sharing with us what she's learned over the four years of telling these stories and she's gonna give us kind of a deeper look behind the scenes of last night's episode, which was called the Kentucky Con Man. Andrea, such a pleasure to have you with us. Welcome.
Andrea Gunning (1:45)
Thank you for having me. I'm so excited.
Debra Roberts (1:47)
Oh, my gosh, we're very excited. Well, you know, your podcast, your show has just been blowing up. People have been talking about it. So before we get into that, I wanna know more about you because career in television as a producer. How did you find your way into the true crime genre and podcasting?
Andrea Gunning (2:06)
Well, you know, I work for Glass Entertainment Group and that's led by the Nancy Glass, who is a pioneer in the space and she's my mentor. She's taught me everything I know. And, you know, many years ago we were looking into diversifying, you know, our programming and we came across a story and it was with Kim Goldman, and you know, that name. She lost her brother. When we were developing her story, a lot of, you know, interested networks were only really considering her value if she would do the story with O.J. simpson, if she would sit down with O.J. and, you know, back in the day, when I was 8 years old and this trial was going on, I watched my mother watch the trial, religiously mesmerized. She was so mesmerized and captivated. And I would watch her watch it all day and then go out into the driveway and talk to her girlfriends about it. And as an 8 year old, you're like, what is going on? You know, obviously there's something amazing happening on screen, but what is drawing my mother to this story? And so the very first podcast we did was told through the lens of the individuals that lived through that experience. And it was led by, through Kim's pov. Telling stories from Kim's perspective, from survivors perspectives has always been so deeply important to my work and why I do what I do, because it's really about the experience and what it does when you live through a crime.
