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Deborah Roberts
This is a story that begins in a quiet cul de sac where a young family invites somebody new into their lives. And what would eventually happen there would captivate the country for nearly three years.
Reporter/Journalist
In 2021, Juliana Perez Magales came from Brazil to Virginia to work for Christine and Brendan Banf. She was to be their au pair.
Detective/Investigator
An au pair is typically a person who comes from a different country who joins a family and helps out. It's like a live in nanny.
Deborah Roberts
At the time, Christine and Brendan Banfield had a three year old daughter. And like a lot of couples, they had demanding jobs and they needed somebody to help look after their daughter.
Detective/Investigator
A year and four months after Juliana joins the Banfield family, a tragedy hits the family.
Reporter/Journalist
On February 24, 2023, the Family Life that Juliana Magules was sharing with the Banfields was completely shattered. It was turned upside down.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
911, where's your emergency? I need help. My friend, she just attacked him. Like now. She's bleeding. Hel. I don't know what to do anymore. Okay, where are you located? What's your address? Take a deep breath for me. Just let me know your address.
Detective/Investigator
The Banfield's old pair. Juliana is the one who calls 911. There's a woman on the phone and she's difficult to understand. She's not able to get out the address or really the nature of the emergency.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Is there somebody else there that can
Reporter/Journalist
give her the address?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Stable Brook Way. Okay, and what's your name and what's going on? My name is. My name is Brendan Banfield.
Detective/Investigator
I'm a. I'm a. I'm a federal agent. This is my house. There's somebody.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
There's somebody here.
Detective/Investigator
I. I shot. I shot him. But he stabbed her. Brenda described in his 911 call that he in fact interrupted a man attacking his wife in the primary bedroom of their home.
Deborah Roberts
Brendan tells them that he shot the attacker to protect his wife.
Detective/Investigator
She's bleeding. She's got several.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Several marks on her neck. She's.
Detective/Investigator
She's not responding.
Deborah Roberts
She's still.
Reporter/Journalist
She's heart's still beating.
Detective/Investigator
She's breathing.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
You said she's breathing normally, she's just not responding to you.
Detective/Investigator
She's got a very big hole in her neck.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Okay. Yeah, they're on the way. And you say you don't know the individual that was shot? Okay. I have officers that are pulling up outside. Okay.
Detective/Investigator
Myself and all the other detectives on my squad that were available responded out to the scene.
Reporter/Journalist
When police arrive at the Banfield home and go up to the master bedroom. They enter a chaotic scene.
Detective/Investigator
Police go up the stairs. Then they're on the staircase, they see Juliana. The primary bedroom. Juliana comes outside the bedroom, speaks to an officer. And she tells the officer, the four year old girl is in the basement.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
My host kid is downstairs.
Detective/Investigator
Okay. How old is your host kid?
Deborah Roberts
She's four and a half.
Detective/Investigator
Four and a half.
Reporter/Journalist
Where is she?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I need to talk to her. She doesn't know anything.
Reporter/Journalist
Can we get her and we'll go outside.
Detective/Investigator
So the police officer and Juliana together go down into the basement. You can see a little four year old girl.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Hey, I'm Officer Bell.
Reporter/Journalist
Nice to meet you. Do you want to go outside with us?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
We need to go outside. Okay. You see Juliana, at the behest of police, take the daughter out of the house.
Reporter/Journalist
Do you just want to tell me quickly what happened?
Detective/Investigator
I don't really know what happened.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Everything happened too fast.
Detective/Investigator
The police officer tells the four year old girl. Why don't you go with that officer?
Reporter/Journalist
Can you go with Officer Batani really quick? He has some stickers for you.
Detective/Investigator
Time. Juliana starts making some statements to the officer about what happened.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I was going to take her to this room this morning, and then I forgot the lunch. We were going to pay.
Reporter/Journalist
Juliana basically explains what happened that morning. How Brendan left for work. Christine is home that day. She, Juliana is taking the little girl to the zoo for the day. She had forgot their lunches. She came back, she saw a strange car in the driveway. A man got out of it and he walked through the door of the house. Do you know who the person is?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I have no idea. She calls Christine Banfield, who does not answer her phone. Then she calls Brendan Banfield, alerts him to what is happening. I called Brendan. It's her husband. He's up there. I call him. I see his French car, but I don't know who is that? Who's coming here? I'm scared.
Detective/Investigator
Brendan was at a nearby McDonald's and then he came back to the home.
Reporter/Journalist
He comes home, the three of them go into the back of the house, left the little girl in the basement and went upstairs.
Detective/Investigator
Juliana explains that she and Brendan saw this man holding a knife at Christine, threatening to kill her.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Brendan was saying, police, Drop.
Deborah Roberts
Drop the knife.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Drop the knife. I'm sorry.
Reporter/Journalist
No, no, no.
Detective/Investigator
You're doing really well.
Deborah Roberts
And he was. I'm gonna kill her.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I'm gonna kill her. And I don't know, he started stabbing her. Brendan. I think Brendan shot him.
Detective/Investigator
You can see she's shaken up. She's not speaking complete sentences.
Reporter/Journalist
It's okay.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
You see Juliana hyperventilating, flustered, just seemingly very distraught. Okay, take a breath. It's okay.
Detective/Investigator
Take a minute.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Okay.
Reporter/Journalist
We need some water.
Deborah Roberts
Outside the house, Juliana is talking to police. And Brendan is upstairs with the police in the bedroom where all this happened.
Detective/Investigator
Brendan Bamfield is escorted out of the house. He was complaining of an injury or pain to his leg while he was being transported. Brendan asked about his wife Christine. Is there a way to get an update?
Reporter/Journalist
We see him put into an ambulance. We see officers talking to him.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Where did all this blood come from?
Detective/Investigator
You know, I was holding her neck. Can I be with her? They're gonna work on her when they get there. You wouldn't be able to see her immediately anyway. I want to be with her. Okay. He was eventually transported to a hospital. There's a doctor that comes in at one point when Brendan is at the hospital.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
You have one of the doctors here. Your wife's his dog. Sounds like there was a lot of blood loss.
Detective/Investigator
Yes.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
So I think that she died of blood loss.
Detective/Investigator
I was starting to apply pressure.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Yeah. I mean, those were enormous wounds. And, you know, it's not.
Detective/Investigator
There are so many.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Yes. And the neck is not compressible, so it's not possible, really, to stop all the blood loss. Everything that was possible to be done was done from her right away. You did a wonderful. You know, you did everything that was possible. It's not a survivable injury. You want to wash your hands?
Detective/Investigator
As Brandon is struggling with the idea that he has lost his wife, a patient advocate joins him, and you can hear him praying
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
to come.
Reporter/Journalist
While Brendan's at the hospital, the house is being processed as a crime scene.
Detective/Investigator
Police Chief Kevin Davis of Fairfax county came out and spoke to reporters. We have two adults who have been killed. One was shot and killed, and the other was stabbed and killed.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
The wife of the household was killed. A man unrelated to the household was shot. It's unclear their relationship.
Detective/Investigator
We're just trying to work out the details, the sequence of these violent acts.
Reporter/Journalist
Police need to figure out who is this man who Brendan Banfield says he came upon in the master bedroom of his house, attacking his wife.
Detective/Investigator
We don't know a lot of things just yet, and we're working really hard to find them out.
Deborah Roberts
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Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
area where the Banfields live was an upper middle class suburban neighborhood. Roughly million dollar homes, a lot of families around.
Detective/Investigator
I know that community to be very quiet, very safe, tree lined streets, cul de sac, a lot of kids. We enjoy a very low violent crime rate. So murders don't happen very often in Fairfax County. In the hours after this tragic incident, law enforcement does reveal the name of that mystery man found inside the home. Joseph Ryan, the male decedent who was found dead inside the home, shot to death. Joseph Nathan Ryan. He's 39 years old. the beginning of the investigation, we didn't know much at all about Joe Ryan. We know that he lives locally. He doesn't have any apparent connections to the Banfields. We have to sort out the exact nature of Mr. Ryan's presence inside the home.
Deborah Roberts
I sat down with three of the nurses who had worked with Christine over the years. They were bonded in this pediatric ICU unit. They couldn't believe this had happened to their friends.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I heard from a co worker, she was like, hey, I just heard that Christine's dead. And I was like, what are you talking about?
Deborah Roberts
And you hear that she's stabbed in her own home. What do you make of this?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I was just like in absolute disbelief at that time. She's such a genuine, caring person. So for something that brutal to happen to her, it just didn't make sense.
Reporter/Journalist
Christine and Brendan Banfield had been together for almost two decades, starting in college. They had moved from Long Island, New York in 2019 to Virginia.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
She had left her job. She was working as a sexual assault nurse examiner. So she left that position and she came down and she was excited to work in the picu.
Deborah Roberts
And being in pediatric icu, I mean, that's got to be very hard.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
You have to be strong, emotionally strong, and you have to really love what you do. She definitely was extremely resilient, very smart, very kind.
Deborah Roberts
In fact, I heard her described as
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
a mother hen, 100% when I first met her. She's like, hi, I'm Christine. People know me as the mother hen. And I was like, what? She was like, I just take everybody in underneath my wings and make sure everybody feels welcomed and loved and cared for. When Covid first happened, without knowing the risks of what was going on, she took it upon herself to volunteer. She offered to go over to the adult side and work with some of their COVID positive patients. There's a patient she had during COVID who was in a coma for a very long time.
Detective/Investigator
I was five weeks in coma when
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I was in coma.
Detective/Investigator
One day I just wake up. When I opened my eyes, I saw a nurse that was taking care of
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
me and she's like, how can I help you?
Detective/Investigator
She was advocating for me and doing everything. She was shaving me, she was cleaning me. I think as a nurse, she was an angel. It was the best person that God gave me in this moment just to come back to life. After I got out of the hospital, I asked her like, hey, can we have a. It was amazing just to see her. I invite her to my house with her husband and her daughter. She went to my birthday with her family. She was the kindest person that I met in the US
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
As a friend and as a nurse. She was one of the most compassionate people I've ever known. She always thought about someone else before she thought about herself. I am Christine's best friend from childhood. We've been friends for over 40 years. As kids, we lived two houses down, so we were always together. Every birthday we spent together. Our first holy communions, our confirmations, proms, sweet 16s, I mean, you name it, at every stage of life that she was there for. Christine could be a spitfire. She was fun, she was funny, and she liked to have a good time. Then as we got a little older, we got obsessed with the backstreet boys, and we would stay up all night learning the everybody dance and things like that. Everybody else run up your body, right? I remember when she came back from college, she was one of my first friends to get married and going through all of that and their first house together.
Deborah Roberts
Christine and Brendan, by all appearances, have a lot in common. They like hiking and traveling and looking after their two dogs, huskies.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Her baby shower was exactly eight years ago. And I just. The laughing and being so excited for her to become a mom. It was a beautiful day.
Deborah Roberts
Did you get a sense of what kind of a mom she was?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
The best mom ever. She just loved her so much. She always would show us pictures that her daughter had drawn or what outfit she had picked out for the day and had taken pictures and would share it with everybody there.
Deborah Roberts
How much did you know about Brendan?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
She Just talked very highly of him all the time. I mean, she was very proud that he worked for the government and the life that they had built and created. She was definitely more of an extrovert, and I think he was more of a. An introvert. Brendan came off shy and into, like, gaming and things like that.
Deborah Roberts
I had an opportunity to meet one of Brendan's friends, Brian Jarrett. They met on a gaming site. They were both avid gamers. Later, they actually met each other in person, and their friendship continued. They participated in these tough mudder races together. He thought a lot of Brendan.
Detective/Investigator
He's one of those people that seemed like, oh, he always liked, had it all figured out. Seemed like. Had, like, you know, a life that a lot of people would be envious of. He always presented himself as somebody of very high integrity. He was always really good at analyzing the situation and finding, like, maybe the most efficient way to approach it. I was over at their house a good bit. Seemed like he really cared about his family, and that was what was most important to him in his life. It seems to seem to have it all.
Deborah Roberts
Was she pleased with where their lives were going?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I would say so. I mean, she would describe her life as perfect, and she used that word, perfect.
Deborah Roberts
She posted one time, all of my heart fit into one picture. Did that seem to describe the way she felt about her home life?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Yeah, everything was perfect.
Deborah Roberts
They couldn't believe that the person they knew would wind up dead like this.
Reporter/Journalist
They're au pair saw this man walk through the front door of the house carrying a bag. It seemed pretty intentional. How did that happen?
Detective/Investigator
This question started to come up of, did Christine know this person?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
It comes out that Joe Ryan wasn't necessarily a stranger, that he had communications with a Christine Bamfield on this website.
Reporter/Journalist
It's like, what's going on here? Is she leading a secret life?
Deborah Roberts
This is the morning of the homicides, and Juliana, the au pair, is right there comforting Christine's daughter right after this horrible thing has happened in the house.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I don't know what to tell her.
Detective/Investigator
You don't have to tell her anything, okay? You just gave her a big hug.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Tell her she's okay. All right. Give her a big hug. Okay.
Deborah Roberts
Wow. Many people hire babysitters. Christine had an au pair. How does she decide to go that route? As opposed to the classic babysitter or nanny?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
She saw having an au pair as an opportunity to invite somebody to our country to give them the opportunity they wouldn't have if they were not here.
Deborah Roberts
So she saw it as sort of giving to someone else 100%.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Christine saw her au pairs as family. The Banfields had an au pair prior to Juliana, and they seemed to really have loved that au pair.
Deborah Roberts
She'd even posted on social media about the first au pair she had. She posted my daughter and her best friend, her sister, her third parent, her, everything.
Detective/Investigator
We had an upair of our own for a year when my first son was six months old.
Deborah Roberts
Was that based on their advice?
Detective/Investigator
Based on their recommendation? She went ahead and sent me a lot of the questions and things that she was looking for with her au pair. And that's kind of used that as like a guideline.
Deborah Roberts
Then later, she gets another au pair.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Juliana, her initial au pair, had gotten married and she had talked openly about another person coming in from Brazil and was excited to have a new person.
Deborah Roberts
Before leaving Brazil, Juliana had studied nursing. She was a classic 20 year old. She loved experimenting with makeup, seemed to be checking out dating apps, and she was proud of her heritage. You can see in her bedroom there at the Banfield house, the Brazilian flag hanging up on her wall.
Detective/Investigator
Law enforcement is still investigating the scene, seeing what evidence is going to piece together to get a full understanding of what happened. Initially, Brendan and his daughter and his family, they were all placed in a hotel nearby while police were investigating the crime scene in the house. And I went ahead and visited them over there.
Deborah Roberts
How was Brendan reacting at that point? He's of kind. Killed somebody, his wife is dead.
Detective/Investigator
He seemed pretty sad and broken up about it. He was talking about, you know, like, oh, how we wouldn't be able to do any other future things that he and Christine had planned. I know. Even like one time I brought up how his daughter was gonna have a birthday party, and he's like, yeah, normally Christine would take care of that. I don't know what to do.
Deborah Roberts
Your heart must have broken for him.
Detective/Investigator
Yeah, it sounded terrible.
Deborah Roberts
What about Juliana? How was she?
Detective/Investigator
She was saying, like, oh, the police talked to me for like eight hours the previous day.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
When I saw Brendan for the first time at the funeral, I would describe him as a zombie. The only thing that he ever said to me at the wake was, how can somebody take her from us? Almost from the beginning, it seemed that police had questions that were not typical of their usual homicide cases.
Detective/Investigator
There was no forced entry whatsoever. This is not a home invasion. There was no broken windows. There was no busted indoors.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
If this was a stranger, why wasn't there forced entry?
Reporter/Journalist
When they examine the devices of Christine and Joseph Ryan, they see there's a lot of communication between them, it appears
Deborah Roberts
that Joe Ryan wasn't exactly an intruder. It looks like he and Christine might have been in contact before.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Joe Ryan had communications with a Christine Banfield on this website, a social media platform for people interested in sexual fetishes.
Detective/Investigator
Fetlife is an adult fetish website where people can go on it, set up an account, find people who are willing to carry out some kind of fantasy.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
It seemed that he had coordinated a meeting with a Christine Banfield that day for rough sex.
Detective/Investigator
Joseph Rhine. It's his understanding that he and Christine Banfield are going to fulfill some kind of rape fantasy that involves knives and restraints. We discovered a telegram message thread that was a continuation of the initial conversations that occurred through the FetLife site.
Reporter/Journalist
On Telegram, Christine's name was Anastasia. Anastasia says, I'm excited but nervous. On February 22nd. This is two days before the attack. Anastasia says, I can't wait for Friday. She says, I probably will be a bit panicked. I think that is part of the fun of it.
Detective/Investigator
Joseph sends a picture of all the equipment he intends to bring to their first encounter. The knife, the chain, the ropes.
Reporter/Journalist
On the day of, Joe says, 7:30 ETA traffic, exclamation point. To which Anastasia responds, okay, I'll be waiting for you. When you look at all these telegram communications, it makes you wonder if this was a sexual encounter that the two of them had arranged and it just went awry.
Deborah Roberts
Could she have had a side that you just didn't know about?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
That story wreaked from day one. I was like this, this doesn't add up. This isn't right. This is not Christine. All right. Guys, are we ready? My name is Deirdre Fisher. I am Joseph Nathan Ryan's mother. I would describe my son as somebody who was intelligent, caring, creative, somebody who embraced life. Very high spirited and playful. He did jujitsu and Mika martial arts and he also was an animal lover. He collected old ugly dogs, rescue dogs. And he loved them.
Detective/Investigator
Who's a spaz, are you?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
He was talkative and friendly, he was caring and he was somebody who loved his family. And those are just some things about Joe that I want people to know. I first heard that something happened to my son a day and a half after he was murdered. I got a call on the phone. The lead detective told me Joe had been killed. And I remember, I do remember screaming, no, no, no. I remember it. And I just continued to scream for a while. I am the best friend of Joseph Ryan's mother. And I knew Joe most of his life, knew him well. He was like a nephew to me. We knew Joe wasn't capable of the heinous things Brendan had told them and that what Juliana had told them. Joe was one of the least violent people I've ever known. This is a picture of me and Joe together. This is a picture I took of Joe right after he got this haircut. This was his favorite haircut of all time, and he's showing it off. I would describe Joe's personality as somewhere in between an extrovert and an introvert. He had moments of really sort of an entertaining personality. The rest of the time, Joe was sometimes quiet and like, he did things like the Appalachian Trail by himself, weeks in the woods, climbing mountains. He was a very unconventional person, and
Reporter/Journalist
I admired that about him.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Even as a kid. He knew who he was. He didn't care much about what the rest of the world thought. Joe was kind of counterculture in some ways. He was not driven financially in any way. So he spent his life doing all kinds of jobs. He would work construction as a lifeguard, as a bouncer. At times he worked as a farmer. He took care of sick people sometimes. I'm a survivor of cancer twice. And Joe flew in to take care of me, and he offered to shave his head because I was bald at the time.
Reporter/Journalist
And I said no.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I was taking a picture of them together smiling.
Reporter/Journalist
And after that first picture, Deirdre was
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
like, oh, I want to put my wig on. You know, I'm a little self conscious. And so Joe's like, well, I'm going to put your other wig on. And in camaraderie, took a picture with her with her other cancer wig, and they're smiling. That encapsulates who he was pretty well.
Reporter/Journalist
Joe was very close to his mom.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
They shared their hopes and dreams and anything about their lives. Joe could talk about any subject with me. So he began to tell me about his interest in bdsm. Joe described to me all the encounters that he had sexually as completely consensual. That was his thing that was very important to him. He didn't want to push somebody to do something they didn't want to do. I knew Joe was very gentle as a person and concerned about the welfare of his romantic and sexual partners.
Deborah Roberts
And Joe Ryan seemed to want to make sure anybody he was going to connect with was into it as well. He even messaged in a telegram message to Anastasia, I'm not interested in violating boundaries. And he goes on to say, I don't want to do this if you're having a panic attack. Or injured or something. Right.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
So the night before he died, he sent me a text and a picture and he told me how proud of himself. He had lost weight, he was in shape and he was really happy. He was in a good place. So that's the last picture of Joe before his death, the night before to his mommy. You know, Joe's no kind of killer. He sent a picture to mom and said how happy he was and I'm glad he was happy. The night before he died on that day, I believe my son thought he was walking into a roleplay sex scene that was mutually beneficial to both parties. He thought he was going into a good time.
Reporter/Journalist
As the months go by and the investigation is continuing, there still are a lot of questions about Joseph Ryan, but there are questions about Christine Banfield too. What police need to do is figure out if this profile Anastasia on this website is consistent with Christine's character and what other people know about her.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I immediately knew this isn't the truth. There's got to be more to this story. I was like this, this doesn't add up. This isn't right. This is not Christine.
Deborah Roberts
Could she have had a side that you just didn't know about?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I mean, it's always possible, but if she were ever going to partake in something like that, she would definitely not do it in her own home, much less at 7, 8 o' clock in the morning as her child had just walked out the door. This was just completely out of character for her. Having an affair is one thing, but having an affair under the guise of a rape fantasy, when her being the sexual assault nurse, it was not her, she could never do anything like that.
Reporter/Journalist
So there may be mysteries about Christine Banfield, who is Christine really? But there are questions about Brendan Banfield too.
Detective/Investigator
As we're investigating, we start to discover things that occurred in the past in the marriage between Brennan Banfield and Christine Bamfield.
Reporter/Journalist
It's critical for detectives to look into the background of all people who are present in the house to understand exactly what happened, because it's not always what it appears be to.
Detective/Investigator
Five people were in the house, which included Christine Banfield, Brendan Banfield, the family's au pair, Juliana Joseph Ryan and the four year old girl.
Reporter/Journalist
Brendan hires a lawyer. So his lawyer tells him, don't talk. That's not unusual. So on advice accounts, he doesn't talk. So we don't really know anything from Brendan except what he said initially, which wasn't much.
Detective/Investigator
As we're investigating, we start to discover things that occurred in the past in the marriage between Brendan Banfield and Christine Banfield.
Reporter/Journalist
Detectives doing what they do were able to find a woman who had a relationship with Brendan early in his marriage.
Deborah Roberts
I got a chance to meet up with a woman who had actually had a relationship with Brendon. She had connected with Brendon 10 years before. It was the first time she had sat down on television and she wanted to tell her story, but she was a little uncomfortable revealing her face.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
You're rolling.
Deborah Roberts
Oh, you are? Okay.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Are you okay with these shots? Yes, this shot is fine.
Deborah Roberts
And you're fine with us using your pseudonym for you, correct, Jennifer? Okay, very good. So are you ready to tell your story?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I am.
Deborah Roberts
What kind of an impression did he give you?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I thought he was cute, attractive, and he just seemed nice. He was very flattering, you know, had nice things to say about me, which was always a plus.
Deborah Roberts
Jennifer says she connected with him on a sugar baby website. A website for young women who want to date but they want financial benefits. Was the expectation that it was dating or sexual for hire?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
It was more like relationship for hire. I didn't see it as sex, work or anything like that. It was more just like, I just want you to take care of me.
Deborah Roberts
How much did he pay you?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
It wasn't like a life changing amount of money. It was something like if we met up for a weekend, like maybe 600 bucks or something like that. And there were times he gave me money just as a gift, like, go buy yourself something, or he would just buy me something.
Deborah Roberts
She says he told her that he was married. Now, he gave her the impression that he was not really happy in his marriage.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
She says he kind of painted me a picture of what the marriage was like, which probably was false in retrospect, but, you know, he was like, oh, my wife. Like, we don't even sleep in the same room anymore. We haven't even like been more than roommates for months and months.
Deborah Roberts
So he gave you the impression that he was in an unhappy marriage?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Yeah, very much. He would just tell me about negative things and what things he didn't like about her. I realize now it was like a carefully curated viewpoint, like, for my benefit.
Deborah Roberts
He was married. So how did he find time to spend long days or maybe even a weekend with you?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Well, his wife, she's a nurse and she had a job at the time that involved a lot of time away from home.
Deborah Roberts
Did you go to his home ever?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I did all the time. He was very nonchalant about having me in his home. It didn't bother him at all. And, you know, he would do these very detailed, like, cleanings after I leave because I have different colored hair from his wife. So, you know, there's like. He called it CSI Sweep, which was really stupid, but, you know, it was just like. I think he almost liked it. It was almost like a game to him. It was kind of like there's a lot. There's a thrill, I think, to doing forbidden things, right.
Deborah Roberts
Jennifer says that Brendan told her that he wanted to divorce his wife, but no divorce happens. And she says that he was really sort of obsessed with money and worried about money.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
He, I guess, was under the impression that he'd be giving up far more money than he ought to if they went through a divorce. So he just didn't want to give up a penny that he didn't have.
Deborah Roberts
Their affair is going on and going strong. And Jennifer says one day Christine comes home and finds them there.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I heard the door opening and I like, kind of half heartedly tried to like, hide in a corner somewhere while they were talking. But you know, he was like, you can come out now. And in a way it was like she scolded me and, you know, she was like, you don't understand how hard I work for this family. And, you know, you can just like waltz in here and just like have fun like this while I'm working hard and trying to make money for our family. I was just like, oh, this is very, very weird for me and I would like to leave. So I left and then he was like, yeah, I'm gonna need to talk to her. But then I found out later that it was more of just like, you know, he was just like telling. Reassuring his wife that they were like, the marriage was still okay, that, you know, he was really, really sorry, but it was just like a one time fling.
Deborah Roberts
She says they were dating for about a year, and then she says he dumps her. Years have gone by. Jennifer has moved on from Brendan. And then she happens to come across this article and she reads Brendan's name. She couldn't believe it.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
The circumstances of what I was reading were very bizarre. And I was like, this is not normal. Like, there's something weird about the situation.
Deborah Roberts
Jennifer tells me this was so unsettling that she reached out to a detective on the case.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I just wanted to reveal a piece of information that he had had an affair before.
Deborah Roberts
You wanted investigators to know what his character was all about, right?
Reporter/Journalist
Like, yeah, it was important for Jennifer to come forward because it shows that Brendan is not true to his wife. He also didn't speak so well about Christine.
Deborah Roberts
Christine's friends, the nurses who worked along. Christine, often talked about infidelity, how she was so sickened by it.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
We were sharing stories about other people we knew and the lengths that they would go to to hide their affairs. And she used the word disgusting. That's the most disgusting thing that somebody could do to their partner.
Deborah Roberts
Did she ever let on whether she worried her husband might be.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
No, it's okay.
Detective/Investigator
Were you here when it happened or when Juliana was interviewed initially by detectives, she denied having any type of sexual relationship with Brennan Banfield. She described their relationship as, he is her employer and she is his au pair.
Reporter/Journalist
She denied having an affair with him. But then they find pictures and video that tell a very different story.
Detective/Investigator
For a while, the case didn't have a lot of developments.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
There was no arrest. I just was afraid there wouldn't be justice for Joe. It was very difficult. It. It was very, very difficult.
Deborah Roberts
It's been a few months since Christine was killed in her home, and her husband, Brendan, is still living in the house with their daughter. What was Brendan like during this period? Trying to care for his daughter, having lost his wife. What was he like?
Detective/Investigator
He would say to me, you know, like, this is one of the first times in my life where I really feel kind of lost, or I, like, don't know what to do. I know. He even, like, showed me how his bedroom, which had been completely gutted out, and how he was getting it redone. And I thought, I guess you're still gonna somehow live in this house, trying to make the best of the situation.
Deborah Roberts
And interestingly, Giuliana, the au pair, is still living in this house too.
Detective/Investigator
Law enforcement continues their investigation. They're also looking at Juliana's social media. There are a lot of photos of what you would imagine a 22 year old woman posting. But as they look at those photos, they see someone that they believe looks like Brendan, but having strategic emojis or pictures posted over his face. There was some items of clothing, a watch, and other items that led us to suspect that it may be Brennan Banfield. And we discovered that Juliana had told her friend about the affair she was having.
Reporter/Journalist
That becomes the basis of a search warrant to get Juliana's social media. And what the police find is a lot of evidence that she was having an intimate relationship with Brendan.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Prosecutors had said that they found photos of them, you know, out in public.
Reporter/Journalist
Among the photos the police found on one of Juliana's devices was photos of a trip that Juliana and Brendan took and they took Brendan's daughter. In October 2022, before the murders, Juliana
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
and Brendan Banfield took a trip together to New York. They suggested that this is more than just a fling, that this was a relationship.
Deborah Roberts
Brendan and Juliana had been having an affair, the police think, at least six months before Christine was killed.
Detective/Investigator
And from there, this blows open the case in a whole different way. This leads them to believe maybe there's something more here. Maybe there's a motive that they didn't see at first. You're watching seven News.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
A family's au pair is now charged with shooting and killing a man in a Reston home.
Detective/Investigator
The Fairfax County Police Department announced today they made a new arrest in that case, and they're charging the family. So was second degree murder. Eight months after the homicides, Juliana is arrested and charged with second degree murder for the death of Joseph Ryan.
Deborah Roberts
Juliana pleads not guilty.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I'm Jenna Sands, and I am the Chief Deputy Commonwealth's Attorney for Fairfax County. We knew that Juliana was responsible for the death of Joseph Ryan.
Deborah Roberts
It turns out that on the day of the shooting, Julian Juliana tells the police on the scene that she shot Joe Ryan, too.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
And Brendan said, no, police, don't drop the knife. And I think Brendan shot him. And he asked me how to shot him, too.
Detective/Investigator
She said from the very beginning that Brendan shot Joe Ryan first and she shot him second. Juliano told police, Joseph Ryan, he's on the ground, he's bleeding. And then they hear a moan from Joseph Ryan. Juliana is then directed by Brendan Banfield to go into the closet and get another gun. And according to police, Juliana fired that fatal blow and killed Joseph Ryan.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
We knew that she had shot Joe in that room, and we did not have a reasonable defense that we could imagine for her, given the evidence.
Detective/Investigator
When we arrested Juliana, we followed up with another search warrant at the residence. And when we went into the house, the first thing that I think all the investigators noticed was all the pictures of Christine were gone. Then we went up into the primary bedroom. On the nightstand next to the bed was a photograph of Brendan Banfield and Juliana in a romantic kind of embrace, like a couple. It was a picture of a couple. And when we looked around the rest of the room, inside the closet, throughout the room, we found Juliana's clothing, Juliana's lingerie. Juliana had effectively replaced Christine.
Deborah Roberts
And when you saw those photos, Disgusted.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
You're really going to move into the master bedroom a few months after the woman who hired you to come in and take care of your child dies and is murdered in that same bedroom. No. It's so insulting. It's insulting to Christine's memory. Not only that, Christine's family. Family and most of all, Christine's daughter.
Detective/Investigator
There was no trace of her. There was no photographs. There was no memorial. It was as if she had never existed in the first place.
Deborah Roberts
And then police discover something else that
Reporter/Journalist
sets off alarm bells at Juliana's pretrial hearing. It comes out that she went to a shooting range with Brendan twice before. Christine is killed in October and December, and she in fact has a photo of herself firing a gun that she posts on social media.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
When you combine that with the fact that he never took his wife shooting, it really points in the direction of a plot.
Detective/Investigator
Juliana could serve a lot of time for this. If convicted, it's a minimum of five years in prison with a maximum of 40 years.
Deborah Roberts
Police are still suspicious of Brendan, and now they're zeroing in on another 911 call, one made on the morning of the killings. A full 15 minutes before that other one that she made asking for help.
Detective/Investigator
We could hear in that call what sounded like a man moaning.
Reporter/Journalist
It's very revealing. The question is, what happened in those 15 minutes?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
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Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Here we go.
Deborah Roberts
It's the New Year 2023 and Christine Banfield is very excited. In fact, she even posted on her social media. 2022 was pretty awesome. Let's see if 2023 can top it. Just a few weeks later, she would be dead.
Detective/Investigator
Fairfax county police are still investigating who killed a woman inside that home.
Deborah Roberts
It just seems like she was so Looking forward to the next year.
Detective/Investigator
Yeah, it's incredibly tragic. Now looking back on it, a woman
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
working as an au pair for a family in Herndon has been arrested and charged for a fatal shooting.
Detective/Investigator
While Juliana was in jail, Brendan was living a version of a normal life. Not quite the life that he had led before, but somewhat of in front. He was no longer IRS law enforcement. He was making money as a delivery driver, living with his daughter and his mother in the house, coaching sports for his daughter.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
At the point in time that we arrested Juliana, we still couldn't tie Brendan to it until we had had the opportunity to really work that scene, to go through it with a fine tooth comb. But when we received all of that evidence, that's when we were able to take the next step.
Detective/Investigator
We've got shocking new details tonight in a double murder in Reston. We've been following this for more than a year now. 570 days after the murders, Brendan Banfield is indicted for aggravated murder.
Deborah Roberts
Brendan Banfield pleads not guilty.
Detective/Investigator
We have evidence to now allege that Christine Banfield's life was unlawfully taken and Joseph Ryan's life was unlawfully taken. Do you have anything you want to say?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I. I was happy. I was celebrating. I couldn't have been more thrilled. That's when I was like, yes, finally
Reporter/Journalist
they got this guy.
Deborah Roberts
What did you make of that? This is the man you thought you knew to be this upstanding guy, basically
Detective/Investigator
thinking that, wow, we're like me and so many other people, people wrong about him all this time. Just a few hours from now, a husband accused of killing his wife and another man is due back in a Fairfax county courtroom for a bond hearing.
Reporter/Journalist
The police theory and their evidence to prove it is that Brendan was the mastermind behind an incredibly intricate, detailed plan to kill his wife.
Detective/Investigator
It's digital evidence, it's physical evidence, it's forensics evidence, it's circumstantial evidence. But the work still goes on. Police and the prosecution believe that Brendan created or used a FetLife account posing as Christine. He created a fictitious account in his wife's name portraying her image, using this catfish scheme in. In order to lure an unsuspecting sexual partner to have this kind of violent sex act that would presumably look like he was assaulting her, make it look like he was an intruder, shoot Joseph Ryan, the so called intruder, and then stab Christine. Brennan's plan was to replace his wife with Juliana.
Reporter/Journalist
More detail come out about what exactly happened that morning in the hour or so before the murders. We learned that Brendan Banfield left and went to McDonald's and ordered a breakfast sandwich and stayed there for 20 minutes. And Juliana said she was going to take the little girl to the zoo for an outing, but she didn't. She stayed in a cul de sac, watching the house. Brendan had unlocked the door using Christine's phone. He had shut her phone off and put it in a drawer off the kitchen.
Detective/Investigator
As Juliana waited, she saw Joseph Ryan arrive. She then called Brendan. He then meets with Juliana and his daughter, and they sneak around the back of the house where they enter through the basement entrance. Brendan goes upstairs first, followed shortly by Juliana, where they open the door of the primary bedroom and Brendan shoots Joseph Ryan, then takes a knife that was brought by Joseph Ryan as part of a scripted sexual foreplay, and he begins to stab Christine.
Deborah Roberts
Police are looking at everything, but now they are laser focused on a quick call to 911 made from Juliana's phone a full 15 minutes before that other one that she made asking for help.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Fairfax County 911. Where's our emergency? Hello, Fairfax County 911.
Reporter/Journalist
It's only eight seconds long, and you can hear moaning in the background. And now police realize that's probably Joseph Ryan moaning in the background. The call is hung up. Dispatchers try to call back.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Hello, this is Fairfax County911. We had a call from this number. If you have an emergency, please hang UP and dial 911. This call was made in error. You can disregard this message. Thank you.
Detective/Investigator
Prosecutors say the initial 911 call was made too soon, that Juliana called before everything was properly laid out.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
What we think happened between the 2911 calls was that Brendan gives the signal to Juliana to hang up the phone. And at that point in time, Joe is now dead, Christine is dying, and Brendan manipulates the scene. We think that he picks up enough of Christine's blood to be able to leave traces of it on Joseph Ryan.
Detective/Investigator
Prosecutors say that Banfield smeared it on Joseph Ryan to make it look like he was the one stabbing Christine.
Deborah Roberts
Now there are two people sitting in jail awaiting their murder trials.
Detective/Investigator
Yeah. Get your breath.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Yeah.
Deborah Roberts
But is one of them gonna flip?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I was going to bury Joe's ashes, and I just couldn't let him go. So we're looking at half of Joe's ashes. It sits on top of a dresser in my living room. And every day I say hi to Joe, and then every night, I'd say goodnight to him and I'd wave at the box.
Deborah Roberts
Tonight, a major new development in a 2023.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Double murder in Reston.
Deborah Roberts
It's now been more than a year and a half into this investigation, and now a big turn. Juliana is actually offered a plea deal.
Detective/Investigator
According to my sources, the Fairfax County Commonwealth Attorney offered this plea deal to Juliana Perez Maglihayes in exchange for her testimony against Brendan Banfield.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
There'd been a lot of discussion about how we could get her to turn. There were discussions that sounded a whole lot like dating advice. Leave her alone. She'll come to us. Give her time. She'll make the right choice. We heard from her attorney after we had charged Brendan Banfield that she was finally ready to confess. Yeah.
Detective/Investigator
Catch your breath.
Reporter/Journalist
So, in order to get this deal, Juliana has to sit down with prosecutors and law enforcement. She's got to come clean with everything, and she has to be truthful.
Detective/Investigator
Have you had to your satisfaction, full and fair opportunity to consult with your lawyers?
Reporter/Journalist
Yes.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
The idea was for her to tell us in her own words exactly what she remembered so that we would know that it was reliable.
Detective/Investigator
She told us that the trip to New York was the time when Brendan first talked to her openly about his plan to kill Christine.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
He basically told me, I want to tell you something, but I don't want you to be afraid or scared or leave me. I said, okay, you can tell me whatever. And he said, I don't want Christine in our lives. Then I asked him, we're going to divorce her. And then he said, I don't want Sherman because it'll be easier if she was not in the picture.
Detective/Investigator
Juliana corroborates this catfish theory.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
He told me me that he was going to do create an account on website FetLife.
Detective/Investigator
Where in the house were you predominantly when he is on FetLife, I was
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
mostly in the basement. We sit there and then with her laptop. He said he needed to find a person who likes to play white blood. Play with knife and stuff like that. Play violent.
Detective/Investigator
This whole plan was designed to a t to kind of COVID their tracks, basically.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
After a while talking to Joe, he said he's the right person. Joe is the right person. Juliano was the one person who could tell us exactly what Brendan Banfield's role was in it. And we knew him to be largely the hand that was moving the pieces on this particular test board. He just told me, I wish I didn't need you, but I needed to do this with me. I can't do it without you. And I said, what do you mean? Why you can do it without me? And I said, because something was wrong. I Needed to have my back.
Detective/Investigator
Can you tell me the words that he used in terms of how he intended on killing her?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Like, stabbing her?
Detective/Investigator
Did he say where he intended on stabbing her? How he intended on stabbing her?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Yeah. He was putting sever in the neck, just like he did. He was just expecting Joe to bring a pointy knife instead of the knife to chop vegetables, which would have been easier.
Detective/Investigator
So what did Joe Ryan say during the time when Brendan Banfield comes in?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
He looked at us like, surprised, like shocked that there were other people in the bedroom. And then I just went and just shot him.
Detective/Investigator
Hearing Juliana describe Christine's last moments was absolutely gut wrenching. She is describing the moment a mother lost her life.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
He was sad for her. And then she was just telling him, let me go. I'm gonna die anyways. I'm gonna bleed to death. She was just leaving me here. Let me die. And then he was telling her, I can't.
Deborah Roberts
This is pretty heartbreaking stuff. Juliana even tells prosecutors that Christine, while she's dying, is talking about her daughter's birthday coming up. She's about to turn five.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
She said something about birthday because it was going to be the next month in March. Ray's telling him, like, it has to be before birthday. Why?
Detective/Investigator
I can only imagine that her last thoughts are out of. Were of her daughter. Sorry. That's right. Juliana accepts a plea deal and ultimately agrees to plead guilty to involuntary manslaughter. And on top of that, prosecutors say they will recommend a sentence of time served, meaning no more prison time, and she'd be immediately deported back to Brazil, which means as soon as this trial is done, she's free. As long as she testifies against Brendan Banfield in his trial.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I don't know where the justice in that is. How do you get to plan a murder and think that you're going to live a life, you know, her life, essentially, and walk away after a couple years.
Detective/Investigator
In less than 12 hours, the trial of Brendan Banfield will get underway.
Deborah Roberts
It's been nearly three years since the murders. The case is finally headed to trial, and the defense is about to make the argument that nothing is what it appears to be. Even the police can't seem to agree on exactly what happened here.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
There was a divide amongst investigators. Our supervisor at the time told us there were two theories in the case
Deborah Roberts
and we needed to get behind the right one.
Reporter/Journalist
While awaiting trial, Brendan Bamfield is indicted on two more felony charges.
Detective/Investigator
Prosecutors file another indictment charging him with felony child cruelty and felony child abuse.
Reporter/Journalist
And this is because he had this remarkably intricate plan to kill his wife and did it with his daughter in the house.
Deborah Roberts
Brendan Banfield pleads not guilty to the additional charges too. The investigation is ongoing and something unusual is playing out. Detectives are divided on whether this catfishing theory is even legit.
Detective/Investigator
Brendan Miller is a forensic investigator within the police department that is investigating Brendan Banfield. This is a man who looked at every cell phone, every laptop in the Banfield home. He wrote a report associated with this case. The key line and conclusion in Biller's report is that there's no indication at any point, point in time that Christine lost control or contact with her own devices.
Reporter/Journalist
So if Christine always had control of her devices, then the whole theory of the case falls apart.
Detective/Investigator
After Brendan Miller releases this report to law enforcement, he's removed from this case and transferred to another section of the detective's unit.
Reporter/Journalist
It created this atmosphere that like maybe police want to find facts to fit their theory, not go where the facts lead them. It raises the question, could Christine have actually set up this profile? Did she really invite Joseph Ryan to the house?
Detective/Investigator
In less than 12 hours, the trial of Brendan Banfield will get underway. Banfield is the man accused of killing his wife and another man in an effort to run away with the family's au pair.
Reporter/Journalist
The judge who's presiding over the case is Penny Ascarrati. She's a former Marine. She's a no nonsense judge. She is familiar to people who saw the Johnny Depp Amber Heard trial.
Detective/Investigator
Jurors in Depp and Amber Heard's multimillion dollar defamation trial are taking their time.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
In opening statement, the goal is really to introduce the jury to the story that's going to be told. Brendan Banfield killed his wife, Christine Banfield, and another man named Joseph Ryan. And he convinced young Juliana, 22 years old, that they should get rid of Christine. They would use Christine's email accounts to create a fake profile to lure someone in to come into the house and fake rape Christine. Brendan would be the hero of the day. He would show up, kill the guy, kill his wife, pretending that it had been that guy. That was the plan.
Detective/Investigator
Banfield's defense attorney, John Carroll, says that Juliana cannot be trusted because she's testifying for her life. The whole reason she was arrested was to flip her against my client. He moved on to say that the prosecution's case rests on this idea that there was some sort of catfishing scheme.
Reporter/Journalist
But yet one of the critical detectives, the forensic examiner in the case, the original one, said, no, that's not right.
Detective/Investigator
And so then started the turmoil within the police department. You're going to see manipulation within the police department where if homicide detectives didn't agree with this theory, they were transferred
Reporter/Journalist
early on in the prosecution's case. The jury hears the 911 calls.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I need help. My friend. He just wasn't the night and I was.
Reporter/Journalist
Brandon is sitting at the table crying.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
There's somebody here. I thought I got him. The best way to tell this story was to put the good evidence out in front. And Juliana was our best evidence. She was our storyteller. We called Juliana to the stand the first day.
Reporter/Journalist
She needs to deliver. This is a big moment.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
As Juliana walked past Brendan, his eyes tracked her.
Detective/Investigator
Brendon tried to connect with her, lock eyes with her. Juliana didn't give him a second glance.
Reporter/Journalist
Do you swear or affirm to testify truthfully in this case under penalty of law?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Yes. Thank you. Are you gonna have a seat? Good afternoon. Good afternoon. We had her first describe how her relationship with Brendan had developed. When you first met Mr. Banfield, what was your relationship to him? Professional. It was my boss, Brenda and I barely spoke at all. At some point, did your relationship with the defendant change? It became sexual. Did he ever talk about his relationship with his wife, Christine Banfield? He used to say that she didn't seem to care about where he was, what he was doing. She didn't seem to care about him at all. Juliana testified that divorce was not an option for Brendan, primarily because he would lose custody or have to share custody of his daughter with his wife. Did he tell you what he wanted to do? He mentioned his plan to get rid of her.
Reporter/Journalist
The trial is now at a critical point. Jurors are on the edges of their seats because Juliana is about to tell the jury what she says happened in that bedroom.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
She was extremely nervous, but she wanted to tell the truth. When I first saw that happening, I was just. Just crunching down, covering my ears and covering my eyes. And now to more stunning revelations from the double murder trial playing out in Fairfax County.
Reporter/Journalist
Juliana Perez Magoles is on the stand on direct examination, and she tells the jury that when Brendan first talked to her about killing his wife, she didn't take him seriously.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
At first, I thought he was joking. He had heard of a website called FetLife. Were you present when he created the FetLife account?
Deborah Roberts
Yes.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
He created a new email account for Christine. And Christine's name.
Detective/Investigator
Juliana explains that as a part of this plan, Brendan creates this profile, this Anastasia9.
Reporter/Journalist
How did the two of you use
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
her laptop without her knowing about it. Every time she used to get home from work, she threw her backpack by the door. In the backpack was her laptop. Joseph Ryan was really just one out of of many, many people that they spoke to and the only one who was willing to follow the rules. Joe Ryan didn't need to meet in advance. Joe Ryan was happy to come to a house that he didn't know. Joe Ryan was willing to come at odd hours, specifically this early morning meetup. He made Brendan feel confident enough that he would be the person to played a role and come over to the house.
Deborah Roberts
She goes on to say that she and Brendan were so determined to make sure that this meeting was going to happen that she jumps on a call with Jo Ryan pretending to be Christine.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
As soon as I said hi, he was surprised that I had an accident.
Detective/Investigator
Juliana testifies that February 24th arrives the day that this plan was supposed to be executed. She wakes up up early preparing the four year old daughter for this fake trip to the zoo.
Deborah Roberts
She testifies that Christine had the day off and wanted to sleep in.
Reporter/Journalist
According to Juliana, that morning, Brendan messaged Joe Ryan with Christine's phone and then shut the phone off and put it in a drawer and he left and went to McDonald's where he was going to wait for her call.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
What, if anything, did he give you
Reporter/Journalist
in that morning before the two of you left?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Gun. Juliana's plan that morning was for her to take the child to get into her car and to wait in the cul de sac until she saw Jo Ryan arrive.
Detective/Investigator
The zoo was the COVID And as part of that, she was going to bring some lunches that she packed and left in the refrigerator so that she would have a reason to be loitering outside in the cul de sac.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
That's when I saw Jill pulling in the driveway and I called Brendan. He told me he would be coming home. Juliana testified that when Brendan got back to the house from McDonald's, the two of them left the cars, bringing the child with them, and then the three
Reporter/Journalist
of them went in the back of the house, left the little girl in the basement and went upstairs.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
He took his gun out. I just did the same. I just followed him to the master bedroom.
Deborah Roberts
Juliana goes on to say that she and Brendan burst into the bedroom and find Jo Ryan there with Christine.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
She yelled back at Brendan, saying, brendan, he has a knife. That's when Brenda first shot Joe. Brenda ran to Christine. She told me Juliana called 911.
Detective/Investigator
She testified that in the moment when Christine shouted, Giuliana called 911. She instinctively did it.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
That's where you have our very brief recording in which you hear Joseph Ryan moaning in the background. County 9 1. Where's your emergency? Brendan looks at me and just hung up the call.
Reporter/Journalist
Well, the police theory is that the scene wasn't ready yet for the police to show up. Brendan needed time to stage it.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
He got on top of her. And that's when I first saw him stabbing her with a knife. Juliana testified Brendan picked up the knife that Joe Ryan had brought to the house and that he began stabbing Christine. Juliana turned away. She said that it was hard to watch. She testified that Joe moved and that she told Brendan that he was moving. That's when I fired the shot, too.
Reporter/Journalist
So she shot him. Just shot him.
Detective/Investigator
The defense definitely had a strategy when it came to Juliana trying to give the jury a motive for why this witness is lying.
Reporter/Journalist
On cross examination, the defense attorney asked Juliana why she waited so long to cooperate.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
The feeling of shame and guilt. And also because I had a potential of getting less time.
Detective/Investigator
When the defense tried to get Juliana to lay out some of the details of the this plan, many times she just said, I don't know who took the laptop from wherever it was that
Deborah Roberts
Christina thought it was that day.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I do not remember. I can't tell you for sure. I can tell you the date.
Detective/Investigator
I mean, with all due respect, you
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
don't remember a lot of details. Yeah, that's what's
Detective/Investigator
really concerning about this.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
And I'm telling you that I do not recall.
Reporter/Journalist
Juliana has really damaged Brendon with her testimony, if she's believed. So the big question now is, will Brendan Banfield take the stand?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Anytime a defendant wishes to testify at trial, there's a hold your breath moment. Is this really a good idea? But at the same time, it was exciting.
Detective/Investigator
All right.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Call Brendan Banfield.
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Deborah Roberts
It's been four days of testimony, more than a dozen witnesses, and the prosecution is resting its case. Now time for the defense as John
Detective/Investigator
Carroll begins his case. The argument is that the prosecution and law enforcement had blinders on.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
We had a briefing within the first week. Our supervisor at the time told told us there were two theories in the case and we needed to get behind the right one.
Detective/Investigator
The internal politics that John Carroll introduced to the trial were complete distraction efforts. One of the theories we were examining was that Brendan was telling the truth. So we examined a ton of theories, but ultimately, we're examining the evidence.
Reporter/Journalist
The defense called Detective Brendan Miller as their own witness. He's the forensic examiner who wrote the report concluding that Christine, in his opinion, always had control of her devices.
Detective/Investigator
Did you make any conclusions at that time that she had not given up her devices? I had nothing indicating loss of dominion and control at that time.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
So your conclusions based on zeros and
Detective/Investigator
ones are still the same? Yes.
Reporter/Journalist
The defense calls their own expert to basically verify or agree with Miller's original conclusion.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Were you able to draw any opinions related to this case?
Detective/Investigator
Catfishing did not occur. I didn't see anything here that indicated loss of control of device.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
The digital forensic evidence was simply inconclusive because Brendan Banfield had been so careful in his planning. You could never point to one person as being the sole operator of the device at the time that the messages were sent. And you can't say who was in control of either device. All you can tell us is what the devices are doing, correct?
Detective/Investigator
Correct.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
All right.
Reporter/Journalist
Mr. Banfield, do you understand you have a constitutional right not to testify?
Detective/Investigator
Yes, ma'.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Am. Anytime a defendant wishes to testify at trial, there's a hold your breath moment. All right.
Detective/Investigator
Call Brendan Banfield.
Deborah Roberts
This is a big moment. Brendan Banfield has not spoken to police. He has not shared his story. Now he's about to take the stand, talking for the first time.
Detective/Investigator
Brendan Banfield does this defense that we call my hands are dirty but not bloody because he's saying I've done some bad things. We were having an affair. Now, was Christine aware of your affair? I don't believe she was aware of the affair between me and Juliana. She was aware of at least two previous affairs.
Reporter/Journalist
So Brendan stays on the stand over two days, and he told jurors that he had affairs in the past. He admitted to it, but he said his wife has also had affairs in the past.
Detective/Investigator
There was a point
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
a number of
Detective/Investigator
years ago that Christine had indicated that she was interested in bondage type Situations. In terms of your sexual relationship with Christine, what, if any, differences did you have? I was not interested in ever harming her. I was never interested in sexual violence.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
In our detective's examination of Christine Bant digital life, there was absolutely no evidence of her having been involved or even interested in rough sex. Christine never mentioned to me anything about any affairs. I would be the one she would share it with, and there was never any secrets.
Detective/Investigator
Did you ever create any sort of a plan with Juliana? No, there was no plan. I think that it's an absurd line of questioning.
Reporter/Journalist
Regarding the day of. Brendan had an explanation for the jury.
Deborah Roberts
Brendan testifies that when he pulls up to the house and sees this strange car, he doesn't call 911 right away because he says that he thinks maybe his wife is having another indiscretion.
Detective/Investigator
It wasn't on my mind that this was some type of violent or threatening encounter. I was emotional at that point.
Reporter/Journalist
Brendan says that he enters the house through the basement door, and then he sees Juliana and his daughter behind him.
Detective/Investigator
I never told her to come down to the house. Brendan leaves Juliana and Banfield's daughter in the basement.
Reporter/Journalist
He goes upstairs and into the bedroom.
Detective/Investigator
Christine was new and on all fours, and Joe Ryan was behind her. I don't know that I've ever been more panicked in my life. Almost immediately, I said, police. I saw him do a downward stabbing stroke, and that's when I fired at him. Christine told me that she was bleeding out and that. That she was sorry and that she loved me.
Reporter/Journalist
Brendan notices that Juliana is now in the bedroom with him.
Detective/Investigator
I told Juliana to call 911. She went into the master bathroom.
Reporter/Journalist
Brendan says that while he's tending to his wife, he. Then he feels something on his back.
Detective/Investigator
Joe Ryan struck me in my. In my shoulder.
Reporter/Journalist
All of a sudden, a gunshot.
Detective/Investigator
And I looked up, and I saw that Juliana had my other firearm. I was stunned that Juliana had shot.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
As John Carroll is finishing his direct examination of Brendan Banfield. I'm ready, your honor.
Detective/Investigator
I have no further questions.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Cross examination. There were a number of things that I wanted to push on.
Reporter/Journalist
He's asked, well, you know, you've explained a couple of stab wounds. She had seven stab wounds.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
When did he stab her those other five times?
Detective/Investigator
The knife is inside of her hair. I can't tell the movement. And I don't know exactly what happened before I arrived either.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Okay, well, she had to get five more wounds at some point.
Deborah Roberts
Prostitute. Prosecutors are hammering away at Brendan, and they press him on his story that Christine was Awake and on her devices on the morning that she was killed.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Would it surprise you if the digital forensics would show that she was not on her phone at 6:30 or really anytime before or after that?
Detective/Investigator
I saw her with her phone. It was on the bed.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Got it. Okay, so she was just with the phone. Not yet.
Detective/Investigator
Yes.
Reporter/Journalist
The prosecutor is really questioning Brendan's behavior. He sees Juliana in the basement with his daughter, doesn't tell her, go back to the car.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Why wouldn't you tell the babysitter to take your daughter back outside?
Detective/Investigator
I believe that she was safe in the basement. I thought they were okay there.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Common sense. I mean, what we know of how people behave just never never made with what Brendan Banfield had done. Thank you. Nothing further, Judge.
Reporter/Journalist
The jurors now have heard two vastly different versions of what happened. Each of you must decide this case for yourself. I can excuse you now to delivery.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Please be seated and come to order.
Deborah Roberts
The case has gone on for nine days now. It's that final moment. Both sides have their final arguments to make before the jury.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Brendan Banfield killed both Christine Banfield and Joseph Ryan. He was in love with Juliana. He was afraid of losing her. He needed to get rid of his wife so that they could be together. Brendan let Juliana take the fall. It's his turn to be held accountable. John Carroll argued in closings that Juliana had ulterior motives, that she wanted to go back to Brazil. And saying what prosecutors wanted her to say was her ticket to going home.
Detective/Investigator
Juliana made it up. She told the commonwealth what they wanted to hear. She told this lie to secure herself and declare.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
He argued that officials rushed to judgment in this case and transferred people out who did not support the conclusion that they had.
Detective/Investigator
The one detective who stood up and said the evidence contradicted her story was transferred off a case. After both sides have their last words to tell their story, then it's all to the jury. The fate of the man accused in a high profile double murder case now in the hands of a jury.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
After nearly nine hours of deliberation, the jury reached a verdict and everyone rushed into the courtroom.
Detective/Investigator
We turn now to the verdict in the case of that husband and father in Virginia accused of killing his wife so he could have a new life with his au pair.
Reporter/Journalist
We, the jury, in the case of the Commonwealth of Virginia vs. Brendan Robert Banfield, defendant, find the defendant guilty of aggravated murder of Joseph Ryan and Christine Banfield.
Detective/Investigator
The jury finding him guilty on all counts just a short time ago. At the end of the day, I am very, very pleased that we are able to stand here successfully having gotten justice for Joe Ryan and Christine Banfield.
Deborah Roberts
Brendan will be sentenced in May. But just days ago, Juliana was back in court, finally learning her faith.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I'm truly sorry for the pain it cost. I hope someday I can be forgiven.
Reporter/Journalist
Your actions were deliberate, self serving and demonstrated a profound disregard for human life.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Therefore, I do sentence you to 10
Reporter/Journalist
years in the penitentiary.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
May it weigh heavily on your soul. I believe she is equally as responsible for my son's death. She's a cold, cold blooded killer.
Deborah Roberts
Joe Ryan, for his loved ones. They don't want him forgotten.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
I want people to know Joe was a good son. That he loved people and that he didn't deserve this.
Deborah Roberts
Christine's family has mostly been quiet about the loss, but they just sent us a statement talking about her, saying she loved her family deeply and was devoted to her marriage. Christine suffered a violent, horrific, senseless death. The lies told about her after her murder were just as painful as her death. We are committed to ensuring that that Christine will always be remembered as the beautiful person she was.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
There's so many things that remind me of her. A Backstreet Boy song will come on everybody else. Your body, right? Remembering her laugh. Sometimes I could look at a picture and I hear it because it was pretty great.
Detective/Investigator
Laugh.
Deborah Roberts
What do you want her daughter to know about her?
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
How much she loved and adored her?
Deborah Roberts
You have a necklace that she shared with you.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Her daughter had made me this necklace
Deborah Roberts
that says family, which is sort of the focus of Christine's life.
Juliana Perez Magales / Witnesses / Prosecutor / Defense Attorney / Other Interviewees
Her daughter was her absolute world. Her daughter's the reason that she lived every day. She loved her so much.
Detective/Investigator
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Podcast Summary
Date: February 21, 2026
Host: Deborah Roberts, ABC News
Episode Theme:
A gripping true crime exposé, this episode investigates the shocking double murder of Christine Banfield and Joseph Ryan in suburban Virginia—a case that rocked the community and unraveled secrets of infidelity, hidden online lives, and a chilling murder plot involving the family's au pair.
The episode unravels the complex, real-life murder mystery where what appeared to be a tragic home invasion was ultimately revealed to be a calculated scheme involving betrayal, secret affairs, and the manipulation of kink culture websites. Listeners are taken deep into the investigation, the backgrounds of those involved, the emotional aftermath, and the high-stakes courtroom drama.
Scene Setting:
Immediate Aftermath:
Police Response:
Christine Banfield:
Brendan Banfield:
The Victim, Joseph Ryan:
Digital Forensics and Secret Communications:
Close Friends and Family React:
Brendan’s Past Exposed:
Affair with Juliana Uncovered:
A New Theory Emerges:
Staging and Manipulation:
Juliana Flips:
Juliana’s Testimony:
Brendan’s Defense:
Forensic Disputes and Internal Police Division:
On Christine:
On Brendan and Juliana:
On the Catfish Plot:
Courtroom Drama:
On Justice and Memory:
With careful, empathetic reporting, the episode combines methodical investigation, emotional interviews, and dramatic courtroom moments. Real voices from the case—detectives, family, and both those accused—bring a raw, unvarnished authenticity to every revelation.
For Listeners:
This episode provides an insightful, nuanced exploration of a real-life tragedy, highlighting the importance of rigorous investigation, the complexity of human relationships, and the long-lasting impact of violence on families and communities. The story’s twists—of hidden affairs, online deception, and ultimately homicide—build to a tense courtroom climax, delivering both answers and further emotional resonance.