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Brad Milke
Hey, this is Brad, host of the Crime Scene Weekly. Thank you so much for listening to our show here in the 2020 feed. After today's episode, we will be found exclusively in our own feeds. We're gonna have a ton of great new episodes on the horizon. I don't want you to miss a thing, so search for the Crime Scene Weekly. Follow that. You'll get all your new episodes right there for free wherever you listen to podcasts. A woman is accused of holding her stepson captive for two decades. In an act of desp, her stepson sets the house on fire. Welcome to the Crime Scene. I'm Brad Milke. I host ABC's Daily News podcast. Start here and every week we're bringing you the latest on what's big and what's new in the true crime space. This week we're talking to ABC's chief investigative reporter Josh Margolin about this unbelievable story of alleged depravity and resilience. But before we dive in, let's go over the true crime headlines you need to know. This week, jury selection is underway in the sex trafficking and racketeering trial of music mogul Sean Diddy Combs. Prosecutors accused Combs of forcing his alleged victims into drug fueled sex parties he called freak offs and then threatening them into silence. Federal prosecutors and defense attorneys are now working to seat a 12 person jury for what's expected to be a high profile and closely watched trial. Combs has pleaded not guilty to all charges. Next up, a story out of Mississippi. After 49 years on death row, the execution date has been set for 78 year old Richard Gerald Jordan. Jordan is Mississippi's longest serving death row inmate. He was sentenced to death back in 1976 for kidnapping and killing a woman. He filed multiple death sentence appeals, the most recent of which was denied in October. His execution is now set forth June 25th. Lastly, a Connecticut man is facing one of the state's most serious charges, murder with special circumstances after police say he beat his 12 year old son to death with a baseball bat. Officials say 52 year old Anthony Andrew Esposito Jr. Is accused of killing his son at their home because the victim was a minor. The charge carries the harshest possible penalty under state law, life in prison without the possibility of parole. Esposito is also charged with criminal attempt to commit murder after allegedly trying to also kill his 16 year old daughter during his arraignment last week. Prosecutors said Esposito told police he beat his son because he was being disrespectful he's now being held on a $3 million bond. No plea has been entered. Now let's get into this week's big story. ABC's chief investigative reporter, Josh Margolin is here in the studio to tell us about these horrifying allegations of captivity in Waterbury, Connecticut. So I can't stress enough to our listeners that this is a disturbing story. Right. There are gonna be details here about physical abuse, about psychological abuse, but it's worth examining. So here's the gist. A man claims he was held captive for 20 years by his stepmother, confined to a locked room inside their house. The only way, authorities apparent is because he set the place on fire. The stepmom, Kimberly Sullivan, now faces charges of kidnapping, of felony assault of cruelty to persons and other crimes. But Josh, let's examine this, I guess through the eyes of the people who discovered this. Take us back to the night of the fire. What happened?
Josh Margolin
First of all, just overarching in the story. The details here are just so disturbing. And in reading the police affidavit, typically police affidavits are dry recitations of fact. And it made me wince, the words on the page, it really is terrible. So a fire was reported at this home in Waterbury, Connecticut. Waterbury is a mid size community on the outer rim of the New York City commuting zone in Connecticut. It's got a pretty long well known history in the Northeast was an industrial community. There are some nice parts, some less than nice parts, but it's been rated over the years as a nicer community to live in. So fire is reported on February 17, 2025. This is the night that the fire breaks out in the home in Waterbury. And911 is called and the fire department comes out. It turns out that it's Kimberly Sullivan who ultimately is charged.
Brad Milke
And we actually have audio of that 911 call. So here's that.
911 Caller
Please hurry. It's still blank street. There's a fire.
Josh Margolin
Okay.
Brad Milke
Oh my God, there's a fire.
Josh Margolin
Ma' am.
911 Caller
What? The tv? I don't know. My, my son, he was step son is in his room and I don't know, he did something with the tv. I was sleeping, I fell asleep.
Brad Milke
Okay, so panic there.
Josh Margolin
So panic. And firefighters arrive, as you'd expect, and they put. And there's substantial damage. And you know, they heard the report in the 911 call that there was a son who was somehow injured in the fire. They get there and they find a son and they, he weighs about 70 pounds. So they're thinking that it's a young kid, but pretty quickly they realize this is somebody who is severely emaciated. Now, there are physical things that they're not going to be able to tell immediately just upon finding him there on the floor in the house. But really quickly, once they get him to the ambulance, it is obvious that something else is going on here. And they're able to ultimately speak to him. You know, he had suffered some smoke inhalation, so at that point he really wasn't able to communicate well. But fairly quickly they realized that what they saw was their eyes weren't fooling them. This is somebody who was severely emaciated. This is somebody whose body was going into physical failure, something called a wasting syndrome, where basically the human body begins to shut down and waste away. In the police reports, there's a comparison. The way that he looks to a Holocaust survivor, like all those terrible images that we saw when the concentration camps were liberated in World War II.
Brad Milke
Wait, you said he's 70 pounds? How, how old is he?
Josh Margolin
He was 31 at the time. He since turned 32. But he had allegedly been in captivity, according to police reports, since the fourth grade, since he was 11 years old. We're talking about 20 years of being in captivity. I mean, it's the most awful tale of the tape that I could give you. Apparently all of the teeth in his mouth had rotted and so the teeth are breaking off. He hadn't showered for the estimate is one or two years.
Brad Milke
Wow. What do police say they find in the house?
Josh Margolin
Most importantly for what happens next? The police very quickly see the door is removed from the room where the man had allegedly been held captive. And the door has what appears to be a slide bolt lock. They also allegedly find holes in the door and the door frame, suggesting that there had been locks, other locks over the course of time. And very clearly in the police affidavit, they say this slide bolt lock is a lock meant to keep somebody in, not to keep somebody out. So this, according to police, in a very, very detailed document, this was a situation where the person, this man who had been kept in this room was kept captive and unable to control his goings and comings.
Brad Milke
And is he talking at this point? Obviously there's gonna be psychological damage here, you'd think. But do police say he's able to articulate his mental state or his apparent escape plan?
Josh Margolin
Actually, the police report ultimately to prosecutors and to the public that the man is fairly clear headed. Certainly his educational level is that of a child. And they talk about his cognitive abilities are that of a child because he basically stopped learning in any real way in the fourth grade. So there are certainly issues. But he really goes into describing a clear headed plan that develops a in the short period of time before the fire is set and the 911 call is placed. So he had a thing of hand sanitizer that he had gotten his hands on. He also had some paper that he had gotten from the house because there were portions of time, of varying lengths where he was allowed out of the room at different times of the day or the week to do chores. He had found an old lighter and he kept the lighter secretly somehow. And that's not described by police to this point, he keeps the lighter. So out of desperation on this final fateful day, he decides he is going to light this fire. He tells police he decides that he needs to not only light the fire so that it creates smoke in the house to like set off a smoke detector or something, he needs to light it it and let it rage somewhat and catch things on fire in his room so as to be serious enough that his stepmother would be forced to call the fire department. Otherwise he fears that he just would be setting a fire that would be quickly tamped down and it would have.
Brad Milke
To get out of control to the point where you need outside help. Outsiders need to come.
Josh Margolin
Outsiders need to come. As I'm hearing this and reading these documents, it's pretty highly developed for somebody who is allegedly kept in starvation conditions, no contact with anybody else. It's a testament, I think, to the human brain, to the will to live, to the whole fighting for survival of a human being that he comes up with this strategy that ultimately is remarkably successful because the outsiders have to come in. The 911 calls place, the outsiders have to come in. They see it, he has to get medical care. And for the first time in God knows how long, he's exposed to outsiders to whom he's able to tell this terrible story to.
Brad Milke
How does he describe this all starting? I guess like he. Apparently police think this started when he was around 11. What does that look like?
Josh Margolin
It actually, according to police, started before that, allegedly. So they tell the story as this man as a child had been going to school and the captivity starts as just extreme deprivation as a result of him taking food that he wasn't supposed to have in the home. Now this is obviously according to what he told police. So in elementary school he gets disciplined, locked in his room and there's already some amount of poor treatment allegedly that he's suffering through as a result of taking food he wasn't allowed to take. But what ends up happening is people start asking questions. See, at that point, he was showering every day or two.
Brad Milke
He's going to school.
Josh Margolin
He's going to school.
Brad Milke
Okay.
Josh Margolin
But what's happening is, as you'd expect, he's at school and questions are being asked. He was deprived of food, allegedly. So he was asking classmates for food. He was taking classmates food. He was taking food out of the garbage. This is obviously not typical I want your Hershey bar kind of behavior. And so the child welfare agency in Connecticut ended up going to the house a couple of times. And it's that that leads to the man being kept at home and in captivity and not being allowed to go to school.
Brad Milke
Okay, so it's at this point then that the parents take him out of school.
Josh Margolin
Right. It's not understood right now what leads the alleged captivity and abuse to start when it actually started, other than this issue of him taking food that the stepmother didn't want him to have. But we do know, according to the police, what changed in the fourth grade to take him from going to school and interacting with other people to the point of being held alone in captivity.
Brad Milke
And we are actually going to take a quick break right here. But when we come back, we're going to hear about what life was allegedly like behind that closed door.
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Josh Margolin
The police are here.
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Brad Milke
All right. We are back with ABC's Chief Investigative Reporter, Josh Margolin. So, Josh, once Kimberly Sullivan is allegedly holding her stepson like this in captivity, what is that like? I guess, like is there allegedly a routine or is he just in the room all day or do we know?
Josh Margolin
Well, there's something of a routine according to the police reports. So what we understand is that his days would end 7:00' clock, 7:30 at night, and that's when he would go to sleep. And it was fitful sleeps. He wasn't well fed ever. So obviously he wasn't sleeping well. From his description of the room to police, it's not clear that there was even a bed in there at a certain point. There was a black and white television, he said, but he's in the room 7, 7:30 at night. He sleeps till somewhere between 3 and 4:30 is when he wakes up each day. And some days he's allowed out to do chores. Those chores vary in the length of time he's out of the room, like from 15 minutes on some days to as much as two hours. There was some discussion that at a point he was allowed to clean the stepmother's car outside in the driveway. So he was actually outside. But for the most part, he describes a life of just counting the cars that go by. Wow. So that's how he would spend his days. And it seems that over the course of the years, the conduct grew more extreme. The room that he was allowed to remain in, the room where he was being held. At one point he was held in a bedroom, then he was held in a storage room.
Brad Milke
Oh, it becomes more and more like a cell, basically.
Josh Margolin
And when the fire department and the ambulance comes in the night of the fire, the room that he had been occupying that had the slide bolt lock on the door was a storage room that they described as being roughly 8 by 9ft and that it had some sort of, you know, angular ceiling. Presumably it was like, you know, top floor of the house. And it was but it gave the effect of really being much more like a cell than a bedroom or a living space.
Brad Milke
So he didn't go to school. Did he interact with neighbors? I mean, was there any who around these people knew what was going on?
Josh Margolin
No. There were accounts in the local paper, accounts from neighbor that said that the neighbors didn't even know that there was a son in the family. Apparently they knew that there were daughters. And of course begs the question, why is one child in a home treated differently than others? But they see daughters coming and going, but they don't see a son ever.
Brad Milke
Wait, let's talk about the family then. So we keep talking about the stepmother, but. So it's not just a stepmother and her stepson in this house. It's a whole family.
Josh Margolin
It's a whole family. Apparently, you know, police have been, on the one hand, they've been very eager to share the details of the story that the son told about his life in captivity in order to allow them to effectuate the charging and arrest of the stepmother. On the other hand, we still don't have a lot of details. And because the victim thankfully has survived and he is in an adult, there are privacy rules. So there's a limit to what they're allowed to say about his medical condition and other things. And there's also a limit to what police tend to want to say in general in a case where they have an active prosecution. As best as we can piece this together, it seems that Sullivan, the stepmother of the alleged victim, she has married the alleged victim's father, his biological father. The father is somebody who is wheelchair bound at a certain point, seriously debilitated in the home at various points. Also we understand that Sullivan has two daughters who come and go. It's not clear that they live there, but they're around, they're seen by neighbors. And it's not clear that there was anybody living in the home besides Sullivan and the stepson at the time of the fire. All of that is going to come out as the investigation develops and the prosecution gives more information. Cuz we know that the father died. It did appear that his father did give the alleged victims some more liberties to be out of the room and to be able to be out in the house. But it's not clear how much that was.
Brad Milke
But so then, because we're talking about sort of what people around this knew, the welfare check. So there are welfare checks early on when they're looking into how this kid who was in school is being treated. What happens? Do those continue then after you get withdrawn from school, there's no evidence that.
Josh Margolin
The welfare checks continued. That really is one of the terrible parts of this terrible story. And by the way, this is not unique to this one terrible story. We have covered people held in captivity previously and we've done extensive work on this issue. And it's almost like these people just Fall off the radar. And let's look at this. This man slipped through the cracks for 20 years. Look, the National Home Education Legal Defense association ranks Connecticut as among the least regulated states for parents or guardians that remove their children from classroom education. There are no homeschooling regulations in Connecticut. Any system that's in place to monitor students once they're removed from school for any reason. And look, there's a statute that they will point to in Connecticut that requires that parents be able to show that the child is receiving whatever the equivalent is of instruction at a high school system somewhere in the state or nearby or something. But nothing explains how the state can or would enforce that.
Brad Milke
So you never actually have to show up. You don't have to produce the kid to outside authorities at any point. Okay, so then a few weeks after that fire in March, the stepson's stepmom, Kimberly Sullivan, is charged and arrested with kidnapping, felony assault, cruelty to persons, and other crimes in connection with all this. Tell me about her case and how she pleads.
Josh Margolin
First of all, she's pleaded not guilty. That's the most important thing. Very important to know. And she has been released on bail wearing an ankle bracelet. She's not currently incarcerated. Sullivan's lawyers told the ABC station in the area there, wtnh, that the alleged victim's biological father, who has since died, that he was really at fault. The lawyer has said, quote, he, meaning the alleged victim, was not locked in the room. She, meaning Sullivan, did not restrain him in any way. She provided food. She provided shelter. She is blown away by these allegations, according to the lawyer. And the lawyer says additionally that the alleged victim's biological father lived there until recently. Quote, he was the biological father. He was the one who dictated how his son would be raised. We think as the evidence comes out, you will see that she is not the villain she's made out to be.
Brad Milke
So the lawyer's saying, like, she just happened to be there. This was a tyrannical father who now happens to be dead.
Josh Margolin
Right. And the lawyer's saying that when time comes to go to court, to go to trial, that the evidence will come out and that will be the story that they bring to the jury.
Brad Milke
Well, and the half sister, she was outside the courthouse. She talked to reporters. Our affiliate, WTNH was there. She says she doesn't even believe Kimberly Sullivan's story.
Kimberly Sullivan's Lawyer
The world is shocked by his condition. Like, how can you not realize that someone is so frail and malnourished and just mistreated in your own home?
Josh Margolin
It's Just.
Kimberly Sullivan's Lawyer
I don't buy it.
Brad Milke
You've covered a lot of cases, right? You're sourced up and down with cops in so many different police departments. You could even tell, listening to the police, hear how disturbed they were by this. So here's a clip of Waterbury Police Chief Fernando Spagnolo at a press briefing in March. This was also from our affiliate WTNH.
Waterbury Police Chief Fernando Spagnolo
33 years of law enforcement. This is the worst treatment of humanity that I've ever witnessed. Right. I mean, honestly, when we first started talking about it, we just. We really couldn't believe it. It took. It took a lot of convincing amongst ourselves to just really accept what was going on. And it's really hard to talk about still. I mean, it's shuddering to think that someone would treat any person, let alone a family member or someone that was entrusted as a guardian or a parental figure in this way.
Brad Milke
So do they have a sense as to why, Josh? Like, what would cause someone to do something like this if they think it was the stepmother?
Josh Margolin
You know, look, cops are used to some very, very bad things, as we know. Right? They see people at their very, very worst. They see people who love each other, hurt each other. They see terrible things. They see terrible violence and vicious displays. There's the distinct sense coming through the police affidavit that they just don't know what the hell happened here. Like, how could somebody treat somebody else that way, Allegedly. That really is the question at the heart of all of these terrible captivity cases. The way the physical description of this alleged victim, it's not like he missed a meal. He said that he was starving every day of his life, that at most he was given two sandwiches and some water.
Brad Milke
If these allegations are true, it ends up feeling like a story about people inflicting pain on someone again and again.
Josh Margolin
Yes. And again, we have to obviously underscore the fact that nobody has been convicted here and that the stepmother is arguing through her attorneys that she didn't commit a crime. But even if there's no crime committed, something happened to this man, and he was denied some amount of human dignity and food and outside access and treatment.
Brad Milke
How has he, the victim here, responded to this? I mean. Cause I just can't imagine making any sort of public statement. And yet he has.
Josh Margolin
I agree. I'm surprised that this man has been willing to say anything that he's not just trying to hide from the terrible life that he had. And to his credit, you know, he made us statement recently, and let me read some of it to you. He says, please call me S. This is not the name given to me by my parents when I was born. I am choosing a new name for myself and I will use that name as I reclaim control over my life and my future. My name is my choice and it is the first of many choices I will make for myself now that I am free. I am a survivor of more than 20 years of captivity and domestic abuse. I was held prisoner in my home from the time I was taken out of the fourth grade at age 11 until two months ago at age 31 when I purposely set the fire that helped set me free. And he goes on, much has already been said that tells part of the story of the abuse I endured. Someday, perhaps my whole story will be told.
Brad Milke
Unbelievable. And the attorney for Sullivan then put out his own statement saying that this statement from the young man lacks both specifics and credibility. He said the Kimberly Sullivan now has a court appearance later this month. Josh Margolan, unbelievable story. Thanks for telling it to us.
Josh Margolin
Thanks, Brad. All right.
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Podcast Summary: 20/20 – "The Crime Scene: 20 Years in Captivity"
Episode Information
In this gripping episode of 20/20, host Brad Milke presents an unsettling true crime story involving long-term captivity and abuse. Joining him is ABC's Chief Investigative Reporter, Josh Margolin, who provides in-depth analysis and insights into the case of Kimberly Sullivan and her alleged two-decade-long captivity of her stepson.
The episode centers around the disturbing allegations that Kimberly Sullivan held her 31-year-old biological son captive for 20 years. Sullivan faces multiple charges, including kidnapping, felony assault, and cruelty to persons. The case came to light when the stepson set their residence on fire, leading to his rescue and the subsequent discovery of his dire condition.
Notable Quote:
"A woman is accused of holding her stepson captive for two decades. In an act of despair, her stepson sets the house on fire."
— Brad Milke [00:00]
On February 17, 2025, firefighters responded to a reported fire at a home in Waterbury, Connecticut. Upon arrival, they discovered the stepson, severely emaciated and suffering from smoke inhalation, lying on the floor. Initial observations revealed substantial damage to the house and signs of prolonged neglect.
Notable Quote:
"The way that he looks is not like he missed a meal once. He said he was starving every day of his life, that at most he was given two sandwiches and some water."
— Josh Margolin [06:32]
The stepson, who had been confined since the fourth grade, had developed a wasting syndrome, rendering his body frail and much weaker than expected for his age. His realization that he was being held captive led him to devise a plan to escape by intentionally setting the house on fire to attract external help.
Notable Quote:
"He is a survivor of more than 20 years of captivity and domestic abuse. I was held prisoner in my home from the time I was taken out of the fourth grade at age 11 until two months ago at age 31 when I purposely set the fire that helped set me free."
— Stepson [26:08]
Josh Margolin details the harsh realities of the stepson's two-decade confinement. His daily routine was bleak, with minimal interaction and severe deprivation. The room he was confined to lacked basic necessities and provided little to no stimulation or proper nutrition.
Notable Quote:
"He goes into describing a clear-headed plan that develops in the short period of time before the fire is set and the 911 call is placed."
— Josh Margolin [10:29]
The stepson was occasionally allowed out for chores, but these outings were limited in both duration and frequency. Over the years, the conditions within his confinement became increasingly severe, culminating in his desperate act to seek freedom.
The household dynamics played a crucial role in the unfolding of this tragic narrative. Kimberly Sullivan, the stepmother, was married to the stepson's biological father, who was wheelchair-bound and severely debilitated. The family also included Sullivan's two daughters, who were visible to neighbors and seemingly treated differently from the stepson.
Notable Quote:
"It's a whole family. Apparently, police have been very eager to share the details of the story that the son told about his life in captivity in order to effectuate the charging and arrest of the stepmother."
— Josh Margolin [17:59]
Despite welfare checks following the stepson's removal from school, the oversight failed to prevent his prolonged captivity. Connecticut's lax regulations regarding homeschooling and external supervision contributed to the case slipping through the cracks for two decades.
Following the discovery, Kimberly Sullivan was arrested and charged with multiple felonies. She promptly pleaded not guilty and was released on bail with an ankle bracelet. Sullivan's legal team has shifted the blame to the deceased biological father, asserting that he was the primary influence behind the alleged mistreatment.
Notable Quote:
"She provided food. She provided shelter. She is blown away by these allegations."
— Kimberly Sullivan's Lawyer [22:54]
The stepson's sister publicly expressed skepticism regarding Sullivan's defense, further complicating the case's public perception.
Josh Margolin emphasizes the systemic failures that allowed such a prolonged period of abuse to go unnoticed. The lack of stringent homeschooling regulations in Connecticut and inadequate enforcement of child welfare checks were significant factors in this case.
Notable Quote:
"We have covered people held in captivity previously and we've done extensive work on this issue. And it's almost like these people just fall off the radar."
— Josh Margolin [20:15]
The Waterbury Police Chief, Fernando Spagnolo, described the case as one of the worst treatments of humanity he has ever encountered, highlighting the profound shock experienced by law enforcement personnel.
Notable Quote:
"This is the worst treatment of humanity that I've ever witnessed... It's shuddering to think that someone would treat any person, let alone a family member or someone that was entrusted as a guardian or a parental figure in this way."
— Waterbury Police Chief Fernando Spagnolo [23:49]
"The Crime Scene: 20 Years in Captivity" serves as a chilling reminder of the potential for hidden abuse within families and the critical importance of vigilant child welfare oversight. As the legal proceedings unfold, the case continues to captivate and horrify the public, underscoring the resilience of the human spirit in the face of unimaginable adversity.
Note: This summary is based on the provided transcript and represents the content of the podcast episode as of May 12, 2025. All individuals mentioned are involved in an ongoing legal matter, and information is subject to change as the case develops.