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Trump vs Democrats and the Media on DC Crime, Federal Takeover; Countdown to Trump-Putin Summit
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Sean Spicer
Foreign.
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Mark Halpern
48 hours away from the summit that will change the world or not. Some big news here on two way and in the world. We'll bring it all to you live. Dan Turn, Spicer and I will run through the day's events, and some of you may be listening two way programs. Two way tonight and this program, the morning meeting, are now podcasts. You can listen to them on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcast. And that means on a regular basis, I'll have to be saying things like, for those listening to the podcast version, Dan is smiling. Or. Or for those listening on the podcast version, Sean's in a different place today. So thank you for enjoying the program here on YouTube or on the two way platform. But now you can listen as a podcast, and if you listen as a podcast, you'll have to listen with peace, love, and understanding. You won't be able to raise your hand and you will not be able to put smack in the YouTube chat. Again, thank you for joining. Another big development here. Thanks to our friend from Ohio. Two new theme song possibilities here. Here might be my personal favorite.
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Dean from Ohio
Hey, Mark. Yeah. Hey, Sean.
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Mark Halpern
All right.
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Dean from Ohio
Hey, Dan. Let's go. Come on, everybody. It's the morning show. Wake up sunsh a brand new day. The morning meeting's on two way. Step on in, don't be shy we're gonna make the truth lie we got the groove, we got the beat news and voices from every street you bring your mind we'll bring the fun peace and love for everyone. Get on up, get on up to the mall Morning meeting. Shake it now, feel that green Left or right, we all belong the morning meeting keeps you moving strong. Yeah. Mark's the man with the master plan. Sean's got move, dancer style, man. Questions fly, ideas collide we all ride on this morning time Clap your hands.
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Mark Halpern
All right. I like it.
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Dan Turn
It's got some cap, wakes you up.
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Mark Halpern
Yeah. Sean, I never. So I, I never read the chat, Sean, but if you just go by the chat, that may have passed. Yacht rock.
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Sean Spicer
I, I look, I'm comfortable. I, I said this when we put it in our text chain the other day. If you're not familiar with chairman of the board, North Carolina beach band, I, I think that very reminiscent of that. I could live with that. It's not yacht rock, but it's. It's peppy. I, I got. I can dance to that. Well, I can't dance, so, but, but I could move to it, so it's. It's strong.
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Mark Halpern
All right. Maybe a foreigner to close the show. We'll have another option, but the. The chat. Love that. And Dean from Ohio is just a genius with AI. So, Dean, thank you. All right, as always, if you want to be in on the conversation here, please raise your hand.
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Sean Spicer
Real quick. Logistical question. Dan, I saw your post last night. Did you find the glasses, or are these new glasses for those who didn't see? Dan lost his glasses.
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Dan Turn
Oh, no, no, no, I didn't lose them. I was in a. Fox has a studio where I am. I learned. And they could not get the light underneath, which with glasses, they usually turn off to turn off. And so I had, like, giant white, you know, like, things on my glasses. I couldn't see my eye. So they asked, can you see without them enough to do the show? And I'm like, sure. So I took them off.
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Sean Spicer
Enough. Enough. That's the keyword. Can you see enough?
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Dan Turn
Well, all right.
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Mark Halpern
All right, gentlemen, here we go. Since yesterday, since we last talked about Anchorage, Anchorage and the base were confirmed as the site. Caroline confirmed that the president's flying out Friday, so the summit won't start till the afternoon, east coast time. But perhaps most importantly, Caroline made clear. The president's there to listen. He's not there to present a plan. He's doing a call at this hour, we're told, with the Europeans and Zelensky to run through the West's position. But it seems to me, Sean, more than even yesterday, that Putin could come in and spat a bunch of nonsense, and that could be it. This could be a very short meeting. So based on the events since we met, are you.
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Wes Moore
Are you.
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Mark Halpern
Let me ask it this way. What's do you think? What's the best case for this meeting? Zelensky won't be there. Putin's presenting a plan. It seems improbable that he'll present a plan that the president would be for, let alone the Europeans and Zelensky. So how do you see the best case of this summit at this point?
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Sean Spicer
So I guess it depends on who you are, what that best case is. I think if I were Putin, I would come in and say, I, I drafted this plan for you. I think it's good it recognizes this and try to use it to get Trump to sign off on it. I've never. The lead up to this has been fascinating, JD in, in England over the weekend. But then this call this morning, the additional input that he's taking in. Look, Trump's the master. We've talked about this before, like producer. And so the question is, is all this pomp and circumstance to lead up to this, because the Europeans are ecstatic that he's taking into their consideration other points. The best case scenario is that Trump comes out and says he presented a plan. I'm calling Zelensky and the Europeans. I don't think that MAGA wants that. I don't think that he wants that. I think he wants to listen to them say that he got their input. Putin comes in, he hammers out a little bit of a deal and walks out and says, we nailed it. And I knew what the Europeans want. I knew what Zelensky could live with because I spoke to him and I got a deal. And suddenly, because what they've done is everybody has shifted their expectations down to, it's just going to be a photo op. And I think what Trump wants is, oh, yeah, you think it's a photo op. Watch this. So he's a master at playing everybody. And I just wonder if he has lowered expectations for a completely another reason that he wants to come out with some sort of deal and say, see, I got it. That's my take.
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Mark Halpern
Dan, Overnight being reported that Russia's on the offensive on the ground, Zelensky and his. His government seem pretty on edge about what the President might do, including as well as some of the Europeans. Do you, do you share Sean's view that this could be a much more successful meeting than I feel it's going to be?
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Dan Turn
Yeah, I do. I agree somewhat with Sean. I think he's lowering expectations and trying not to box himself in because he always has to declare victory. Like, this was a great meeting and this is what I got. And so if the expectation was a peace deal, now you've set a really high bar. So I, I agree with Sean that I think he's trying to reset this so that if he comes out, he'll have something. He'll have a deliverable, as Bill Clinton's team used to always like to talk about that. That's why I went and this is what I got. And, you know, I'm, I'm the. I'm the deal maker. I think the best case scenario, actually, is Putin announces a ceasefire for like a week or 72 hours. And Trump says it's a good start he's making. He's willing to, you know, give up some stuff. He won't say what it is, and then he'll call Zelensky, call the Europeans and see if he can say, look, guys, you're starting to lose more land and you don't have a lot of, you know, leverage in this negotiation. I think Trump wants a deal. He just, he wants a deal. He wants this over all.
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Mark Halpern
I'll say again, then we'll move on because we'll have two more days to talk about this is I continue to worry about a ceasefire being violated and the west not react to that. Okay.
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Sean Spicer
D.C. can you explain that when you say is it that you mean that Putin would agree to thing and then violate it right off the bat?
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Mark Halpern
Yeah, correct, correct.
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Sean Spicer
Wouldn't that. But if he does that, I guess, I guess my, my question would be okay, if we walk out Friday night and Putin says there's a picket seven day cease fire and on day three, he violates it. Yeah, I mean to some extent I actually, I say this, not that I want any destruction or death, but I feel like the quicker he shows his cards, the easier this is.
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Mark Halpern
No, but then the President's back to he's not going to fund, he's not going to fund the war effort and he doesn't, doesn't seem to want to put on sanctions. But then we're back to the Biden policy, which may be the right policy compared to a war if Putin won't agree to a settlement. I'm just saying if you agree to cease fire and then Putin violates, it's.
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Sean Spicer
As if nothing but, but I guess my point is I just don't have high expectations for Putin ever. I think he will violate whatever he says. And so the quicker he does it.
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Mark Halpern
The president's, president's flying 5,000 miles to check it out. Dan.
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Dan Turn
I mean, I think the other option is the ceasefire starts Sunday and Saturday night. Putin unleashes, you know, a massive barrage and keeps going past, you know, a few hours and he's like, well, now we got to resp.
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Mark Halpern
Let me ask you one more question. As a percentage, zero being it won't happen, 100 being 100%, what's the percentage chance that, that following the Trump Putin meeting, there's a three way meeting that includes Zelensky. What's the percentage chance that that happens, Dan?
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Dan Turn
40%.
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Mark Halpern
40%. Sean 15. Yeah, I'm with Sean 15. All right.
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Dan Turn
D.C. at some point that they're going.
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Mark Halpern
To have to talk National Guard and other federal agencies on the streets of D.C. last night, as Caroline pointed said during the briefing yesterday, they, they're involved in making some arrests including for some bad hombres. The, the, the mayor of the District of Columbia has started to make comments and she's done it off and on the whole way conciliatory comments towards the present, private negotiations and and planning meetings with the administration, but also expressing what I'm sure is both her actual feelings and the need to appeal to the base of the Democratic Party and her constituents by expressing concern about the symbolism and the substance of a federal takeover of D.C. law enforcement. Here's the mayor last night in some sort of online town hall relates to.
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Mayor Muriel Bowser
The president's ability to declare a public safety emergency. We do not believe that we are expecting experiencing a crime spike or are in an emergency status. In fact, MPD has been doing the job with community and all of their partners in government to drive down violent crime in the District of Columbia. We have, in fact, experienced a 26% decrease, and that's on top of the 35% decrease we saw in violent crime last year. While we're not without our challenges, we take care of our own business and we take care of our own people. We don't live in a dirty city. We are not 700,000 scumbags and punks, and we don't have neighborhoods that should be bulldozed. I'm also really ticked off about the intrusion on the District's autonomy and the characterization of the good work that we do in this city to make it beautiful, to have excellent services, to attract millions of tourists, to have a growing school system, to have a growing city with new residents showing up every day.
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Mark Halpern
Okay, now the, the national media, political media, a lot of it based in Washington, is, is out of its mind and they continue to fight with the administration. Elizabeth Buellmiller of the New York Times, truly one of the best reporters in Washington, I'd say, in the last 50 years. She's an incredibly good reporter. But. But I have to take respectful issue here, and I'm making her the spokesperson not just for the, the liberal media, but for all the people in Washington who have lost their minds regarding quibbling with the president over statistics rather than recognizing what they could walk around their newsroom and ask people who won't walk out at night with their kids and who have been robbed and carjacked. Here is Elizabeth Buhlmiller of the New York Times on Morning Joe.
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Elizabeth Buhlmiller
I mean, right now, I think a lot of this is just, it's very good television for the President. And his description of Washington as this, as one of my colleagues at the Times called it, this sort of, you know, this Mad Max hellscape with marauding gangs and violence everywhere is just completely out of proportion with the reality. Yes, there's crime here, but it's Down. And I think right now, last night, we saw these troops on the Mall around the monuments. They were, there was nothing for them to do. They were taking pictures of themselves with visitors and with tourists. They hung around for about two hours, and then they went back. It's justit's very, very striking. And right now, again, they're not supposed to be arresting anyone. And it's unclear, exactly, as you said, what they're going to do. They're going to.
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Mark Halpern
Dan, what is the status of this operation substantively and politically?
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Dan Turn
Well, I think substantively the show of force, obviously, I believe deters crime. I mean, you just think twice if there's a bunch of Marines or soldiers, National Guards with guns, you're kind of like, let's move on. So I think it does just give the perception of calm and safety, and that's important. I think the politics of it, as you said, is, unfortunately, the Democratic Party is falling into the trap of, Look, I share the frustration as I tweeted that Trump described D.C. as Mogadishu. Like, it is not. But crime is a problem. People do not feel safe. That is not a partisan comment. Like, I go back to so many friends when I just call them to say, like, hey, how you doing? How are your kids? Like, whatever they say, man, it's changed. Like, even in some of the nicest neighborhoods.
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Mark Halpern
Dan, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but stipulate it. We all know it's true, so of course it's true. Everyone we, everyone we know knows it. So.
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Dan Turn
And, and so, and so what I, what, what I just don't understand is I think where the Democrats have an opportunity is to say, okay, then what? So you have the national guard for 30 days. Maybe they get another extension for another 30 days.
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Mark Halpern
Yes. Although Democrats in the Senate are talking about blocking it already, which is just stupidity. And that, and that's the way the law works, by the way. I said yesterday I didn't know, actually.
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Sean Spicer
No, no. So just to be clear, the MPD, the Metropolitan Police Department, the President has 30 days to address them. He has complete under control of the National Guard that he has 100%.
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Dan Turn
But I think that where the party has an opportunity is to do two things. One again, then what? So we want to put, you know, 100,000 cops, you know, totally ironic because that was Joe Biden's idea in the 90s. But the second thing is, why aren't we talking about cities other than Washington, D.C. miami has crime problems. New Orleans, St. Louis. We heard about Kansas City. So kind of Smoke Trump out if he's really concerned about urban violence. Let's go look at a lot of other cities and, but instead, they hate the guy so much that they have to pull their hair out that he's Hitler and authoritative and, and again, to me, this is like immigration. The public stops hearing you. Yeah, they just tune you out.
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Mark Halpern
Sean, I'm going to risk everything and ask you to analyze Elizabeth Dumeller, because you've dealt with Washington reporters on the left for a long time. How can these reporters, Elizabeth Dmiller, Peter Baker, how can these reporters go out and say these things? How could, how could it be.
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Dan Turn
Because they hate them?
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Sean Spicer
I, I can't say I, I know where Elizabeth, Elizabeth or, or Peter live, but I would bet that they are up in the Chevy Chase Circle area. If I had to guess, there's crime up there. So that they don't deal with this stuff. They go up to the socials. No, no, no. But my point is, is that it's very different than walking around in the Navy Yard at night where gangs are coming through. Look, I, I said this the other day. I, I, I literally on the way to a Nats game, probably. It's got to be two and a half months now, because it was in the spring. We're going down Independence Avenue in an Uber. A bicycle gang comes around us and just starts going up and down the street both ways. And I said to the driver, what is this not? He goes, yeah, can't do anything. So I asked the head of the D.C. police Union on my show last night. He goes, yes, we are prohibited from addressing that. We're prohibited. We cannot do it. And if we actually were to corner them and get them, it's a traffic violation, not a crime. He went through all of the issues that exist in D.C. right now. They decriminalized so many of the things. You've got a Prosecutor in the AG there in D.C. this is what Jeanine Pirro was talking about, who literally doesn't believe in prosecuting criminals. He doesn't believe philosophically that that's what should happen. So D.C. decriminalized a lot of stuff. Number one. Number two, listen to the, I mean, of all the interviews that I've had, yesterday was probably one of the most fascinating on the scene. They are told to downgrade things, so instead of a stabbing, it becomes a person that was injured on the scene. So it's not a violent crime. I mean, the stuff that the officers get told to do. There was a cop yesterday that get very publicly got reprimanded a commander for rigging the statistics. Like you've got ABC News Kira Phillips out there talking about carjacks, another colleague getting mugged. When Elizabeth Boomiller gives on and says that this doesn't exist, that's, that's literally the equivalent of Hunter Biden's laptop is fake news. They continue to do it on issue after issue.
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Mark Halpern
Yes.
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Dan Turn
What's interesting, Mark, is like if you and for people who don't know D.C. the New York Times is right near the White House. The Washington Post is just a few blocks, you know, north on K Street. Now, if you go a block north and east of the Post, I know Washington Post journalists who say they will not walk over to like RPM Restaurant and other things at night. The New York Times, if you go three blocks north in an area that used to be one of the most secure in the city, people are nervous at night now just walking.
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Mark Halpern
But I'm telling you, it's northwest Washington, too.
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Dan Turn
Oh, I agree.
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Mark Halpern
It's up in Chicago. It's the whole city.
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Dan Turn
Yep. Spring Valley.
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Mark Halpern
But, but for reporters to say this, it's not just bad journalism. It's, it's once again defining the brand in opposition to Donald Trump in, in counter to the facts. Counter to the facts.
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Sean Spicer
So one, I think it's reflexive for most of these reporters. But here's the thing that I find funny. So many of the hits against Donald Trump are he didn't accept this data, he manipulated this data. And then it comes to crime. And it's unequivocal a fact. You have, you have multiple instances. You have legislative actions that were taken by the D.C. city Council to undermine the data. And yet they'll go after Donald Trump for manipulating data. And then when the District of Columbia and other cities manipulate their crime stats, they go, crime is falling, everything's great. We feel safe. It is so ridiculous the length to which they'll go to cover for their own side. Any of these cities were run by anyone on the Republican side, it would be a very different story.
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Dan Turn
Right.
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Mark Halpern
All right, One more on this and then we're going to move topics. And again, if you want to be in the conversation, raise your hand. And because it's a podcast, I have to do my best NPR thing. You're listening to the Morning meeting on two way with Dan Turn and Sean Spicer. I'm Mark Halpern. Morning meeting continues now. So Maryland Governor Wes Moore, potential presidential candidate, even though he says he won't run, was on Fox and Friends this morning. I wonder how that booking came about, I'm sure they have a standing offer for Westmore to be on Fox and Friends whenever he wants. Why did they offer today? Why did he accept? Who knows? But here's Westmore talking about crime in his city and his state. But you don't like the actions that.
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Max
The president is taking right now.
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Sean Spicer
Why?
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Wes Moore
Well, you know, when I came in, I said that the number one priority that we had as administration was to make sure that our communities were safe. You know, before I became Governor, for the eight years before I became the governor, Baltimore City went eight straight years of 300 plus homicides. The year before I became the governor, Baltimore City averaged about a homicide a day. And I said, I refuse to be a governor who's going to spend my time offering eulogies and giving thoughts and prayers that we actually need to have resources and coordination that was going to help to fundamentally address the problem. As people of my state have learned. You know, I don't come from a political background. My background is I'm a soldier. And so what we did was we made historic investments in local law enforcement, that we invested over $15 million in the Baltimore City Police Department alone. That we made historic investments in technologies and predictive analytics and saying if someone commits a violent crime, particularly with a firearm, I want them in handcuffs in 24 hours. And saying that we made historic investments in our community groups, working with the mayor, working with our county executives, working with the community groups and our violence intervention and violence interruption groups to making sure we can stop crime before it happens and making sure we don't have this retaliatory cycle of violence.
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Mark Halpern
I'm going to take the liberty of speaking for all three of us and saying that was a kick ass answer. None of us could take any exception with the strength of that in style and substance and demeanor and everything else. Sean, which Democrats, and if you want to say more, say more. Which Democrats are, do you think doing a good job of responding to the situation in D.C.
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Sean Spicer
I, I think so too. I think, I think Westmore is probably doing the best and I still don't think it was great. But because again, I agree with more Dan, I would have said, look, you know, there's, these are areas where we can come together. Crime and safety isn't a political issue. It's something that Republicans, Democrats, Independents, all agree want. I mean, like I will say, you know, if you're waiting on a curve, he's the best. I also think that Mayor Bowser has done a pretty decent job of, of not being Completely reflexive, like, reflexive in her hate towards Trump. She's been talking about working with him. I will say it was mind blowing that the chief of police yesterday couldn't answer the question of what chain of command was. That's pretty scary. But Mayor Bowser has done a good job of laying out the authority. She's walked through the law, the D.C. charter, what home rule is, what authority she has and doesn't have. I think she's been for, for a Democrat and responding handled this in a, in a fairly smart way.
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Mark Halpern
Dan.
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Dan Turn
Yeah, I, I, I, I, I agree. I'll just add those who have been quiet, you don't hear Whitmer, Shapiro, Bashir saying anything, which to me is smart. Like if, if you don't want to, you know, don't bash them. They probably agree with him. They will have to address this. But I, I think it's, they're, they're smart. And actually I'll add that, you know, Wes Moore is, did kind of follow that playbook of saying let's talk about a permanent solution. How are we going to get this down over the next five to 10 years? And you heard the kind of, I think a smart way. And he didn't take the bait. He did not hammer Trump. And that to me, that is really smart. You're not boxing yourself in because this is probably going to be successful. So why go on? Terrible.
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Sean Spicer
I will say this, the one thing that's lurking in the back of I, I'll put it to you, Dan, but I've got to imagine in the back of every Democrat's head is, oh, wait a second, 18 months ago I bashed the heck out of the police. I said they should be defunded. They were horrible people. We should be sending out social workers. So now suddenly to be talking about being tough on crime at some point, you, you, the, the, that ping pong back and forth between your positions on crime and your party are for most of these leaders is not strong.
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Dan Turn
Well, I think, look, most of these people we're talking about did not call for defunding the police. Right. The AOCs of the world, the Bernie Sanders. Yes. Look, this is where again, Trump derangement syndrome. You keep hearing Democrats going back to January 6th. Right. Which I think to me is just like, God, stop pulling at that band aid. Like stop trying to re litigate that. But I think that's where people in our party say, all right, we weren't great in defund the police. Terrible with that.
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Mark Halpern
You know, five topics we're going to do them really fast. So please, short answers. The President's nominee to be the head of the BLS, Mr. Antonio in the past has said maybe we don't need these monthly reports. Caroline yesterday said, well, we'd like monthly reports, but like them to be good. He has to go through the help committee in the House, in the Senate. And the chair there, Mr. Cassidy of Louisiana has a lot of questions as to other members of the committee. Sean. Dan, will Antoni be confirmed as head of the bls?
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Dan Turn
No.
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Mark Halpern
Sean.
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Sean Spicer
Yes.
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Mark Halpern
The correct answer is no. No.
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Dan Turn
Murkowski is gonna not.
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Mark Halpern
Yeah, I actually don't know. I guess no.
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Sean Spicer
Well, just remember you can, you can, you can get them out of committee unfavorably and still put them on the floor.
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Mark Halpern
You can. All right. The Kentucky Senate race is getting a lot of attention. It's an open seat and Mitch McConnell seat. And there's three candidates running, maybe four, we'll see. But the, the front runner right now is a guy named Nate Morris. And he has the support of lots of MAGA folks. The president hasn't endorsed him yet, but he's a friend of the vice presidents. He's a friend of tons of MAGA prominent MAGA people. Here is a new negative ad being against run against Mr. Morris. Fake Nate Morris. Is anything he says true?
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Sean Spicer
I'm Nate Morris, a pro Trump conservative businessman.
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Robert
Pro Trump? Oh please.
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Mark Halpern
Morris donated thousands to Nikki Haley and his CEO.
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Robert
Morris was so woke, he literally signed.
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Sean Spicer
A pledge promoting DEI. Because I'm a Trump guy, not a McConnell boy.
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Mark Halpern
Wrong again, Nate. I made contributions to Mitch McConnell.
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Robert
Fake Nate Morris fully woke and full.
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Mark Halpern
Of Keep America Great Pack is responsible for the content of this advertising. Sean, first question again. Let's go quick. Will he be the nominee?
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Sean Spicer
Yes.
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Mark Halpern
Okay. And take a little longer. Why is this primary had such resonance within your world? Why so many people we know in Republican politics care so much about this primary?
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Sean Spicer
Well, because it's a proxy. And of all of them, this is McConnell versus Trump. You've got two prominent McConnell acolytes. Daniel Cameron, the former Attorney general who is, is very close to McConnell and Andy Barr, current congressman. Close to McConnell against Nate Morris. And to your point again, I, I think to. It would be an understatement to say that he's got a lot of support. He has the entire MAGA infrastructure behind.
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Mark Halpern
Him, but not the president.
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Sean Spicer
Well, that's so far. Yeah, but, but I would just argue that I. Look, I, I found that ad sort of ineffective and over the top. I actually think whoever, whoever Funded that should be really pissed off about how it's just, it doesn't, it doesn't work and, and frankly it's sort of stupid because you've got two guys who are widely aligned with McConnell. Nate has had. It's the level of endorsements and, and machinery behind him from MAGA World is so, it's, it's like, it's like, it's.
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Mark Halpern
Almost like nothing else.
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Sean Spicer
But they. Right. But they cannot like it just to me it was so over the top wrong. I think they could have come at this very differently. In fact this may strengthen Nate coming out of this but he will be the nominee. I think the President will eventually nominate endorse him only because again you've got Cameron and Bar that are very closely associated with McConnell and look, he's been very successful. He's got a very JD Vance type hillbilly elegy story. Rags to riches single mom. Like he's just, it's, it's a great story. People like him and, and he comes across well. I, I just, I'm telling you, I think this ad's gonna boomerang.
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Mark Halpern
Okay. People do like him. But there's some opposition research coming about his business six quote unquote success. Dan, just quickly and we'll give you more time on the next one. Will he be the nominee?
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Dan Turn
I'll, I'll trust Sean knows the MAGA world better than I do. Yes.
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Mark Halpern
Okay. Senator Brown said yesterday he's.
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Sean Spicer
Can I make one more, one more quick point? I, I think what's been fascinating me about Kentucky though I Yield My Mitch McConnell. Thank you. Thank you. We gotta go, gentlemen.
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Mark Halpern
We gotta go fast.
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Sean Spicer
No, no, I just. To me what I think has been fascinating is McConnell is, is not the sort of the boss of Kentucky and the Republican Party. He's, he gets reelected. He's. But it's not because he's well liked. He's got a great, he's had a great machine and so it's not going to transfer the way that like a Harry Reid could have done in Nevada.
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Mark Halpern
All right, Dan. Although. And of course he's got two candidates in the race. So I don't even know if he's endorsed. I don't think he has. Dan. Senator Brown of Ohio is running again for the Senate against the person who was appointed to J.D. vance. J.D. vance's seat probably. Except for maybe Tim Ryan who's now talking about running for governor of Ohio. Probably the only Democrat have a chance in hell to win that seat. How would you appraise Senator Brown's chances of winning and returning to the Senate?
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Dan Turn
Well, Sherrod Brown's one of the smartest political people that I've ever met in terms of understanding his state, understanding what it takes to succeed. If you look at, you know, historically, like, when he ran in 2006, at the time he was anti NAFTA, anti trade, anti Iraq. People like, that'll never work. And he's like, no, no, in Ohio, I think it will. It tells me that Sherrod would not be doing this at his age to just go lose by five or 10 points. He must see stuff on the ground that gives him the confidence that I can do this. And so that gives me some optimism. You know, kudos to Kirsten Gillibrand. I'm really hard on him. Chuck Schumer, they got him again to run along with after, after getting their.
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Mark Halpern
Candidate in North Carolina.
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Dan Turn
Yeah, like, that's a big deal. And I think, again, I don't know Tim Ryan's odds in, in the gubernatorial race, but that's as strong a ticket as you would hope. And Sherrod also, don't forget, if he wins, he would have to run again in 28, which is when the seat is naturally up. This, this is a special election coming up in 26, likely with J.D. vance at the top of the ticket. Again, Sherrod's not running just for vanity. And like, I got nothing else to do. He must think. And he only lost, I think, by three points in, in 2024, with Trump winning the state by whatever it was. 13. So great job for the Dems.
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Mark Halpern
Sean, what percent chance would Brown have in the general election of winning that seat?
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Sean Spicer
I'd say 55, 45.
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Mark Halpern
Really?
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Sean Spicer
He's. Yeah, I think that Dan's right. I mean, look, he came up barely against JD if this was Bernie Moreno running, I, I'd say that he didn't have a shot. I think the problem with Hustead is he doesn't. He does. It's the opposite of Kentucky. I don't think you're gonna see MAGA go out there and hit the pavement for him the way that they would for Bernie Marino.
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Dan Turn
So.
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Sean Spicer
And remember, this is DeWine's pick. So I, I just, I, I don't. He's gonna have to get enthusiasm up. He hasn't. He's not out there doing the stuff. You, you mentioned Cassidy, the chairman of the help Committee. Like, there's a lot of these guys that recognize, okay, I need to get MAGA fired up and, and going as I go into My in good and going to cycle. I, I have not. I don't know that I've seen this guy in a single interview on on our side and to Dan's point, Sherrod Brown's very well known in the state. He's very populist. He has his finger on the pulse. So I don't think he's, I wouldn't bet on him. But if there's anyone that could, that's who I go with.
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Mark Halpern
All right, again, raise your hand if you want in the conversation. And again, you're listening to who Weighs the Morning Meeting on Sirius xm. Now you're listening to wherever it's playing.
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Dan Turn
We need like a little jingle after the way NPR has that.
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Mark Halpern
All right, this is a complicated story. We're gonna do it quick. This is dnc, the DNC headline, Paul. The DNC is going to have a meeting and they're going to consider some resolutions. A couple of them are about Israel and one of them is about trying to keep super PAC money, dark money, so called dark money out of the presidential primary. Not that we want the New York Times or the Axios headline. Here's, here's, here's how Axios framed this.
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Sean Spicer
So I wanted to show you something.
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Mark Halpern
In their write up of this. The Democratic National Committee will consider two Gaza related resolutions at its meeting this month, including one that asked the party to impose an arms embargo on Israel. The draft resolution is part of a package shared with DNC members and seen by Semaphore, also contains language that would recommend, quote, enforceable steps to stop super PACs from interfering in the party's 2028 presidential primary, a position shared by Chairman Ken Martin and by Bernie Sanders. So again, quickly guys, on the Israel thing, the drift in the party, particularly amongst younger voters, is, is, is more anti Israel. Dan, will this resolution pass? Will a resolution having calling for an embargo. Embargo, Will it pass? Should it pass?
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Dan Turn
It will, it shouldn't. This is dumb and dumber. These two. It's so idiotic. These first off, we're now back to cancel culture. So you can't be for Israel. There can't be any ambiguity. And two, these absurd contribution bans. It was PAC money like 20 years ago. All you're doing this is what happens. You get, let's say Bernie Sanders or AOC runs, gets the nomination and they win. They're going to turn around and then try to find loopholes because J.D. vance is going to be mowing.
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Mark Halpern
The resolution only applies to the primary. Does not apply the general.
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Dan Turn
Yeah, but I mean, it's just. It's so. Okay. That hypocrisy right there is idiotic. Like, it's just. It's dumb and dumber.
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Mark Halpern
Sean.
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Sean Spicer
Okay.
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Mark Halpern
Do you think these resolutions will pass? I know you're delighted that they're even being considered, but will they pass?
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Sean Spicer
So hold on. 3, 2, 1. Just some room tone for this. Ken Martin can barely step off a curb, never mind curb. Dark money in politics. I think that these are both so stupid. It's. Ian. This is what they're like going after Israel and then trying to curb dark money, which you can't do. I mean, you might as well say that the DNC has got a resolution that says it's going to urge the sun to come up an hour later. It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I spent six years dealing with these at a party. Like, the idea that anyone gives a crap what the national party thinks on any issue on resolution is ridiculous. All you do is create what. This is a bad story that no one cares about. Like, resolutions should be thanking people for their service. I mean, it's like a student council thing. So I, I dealt with this for six years on my side. I laugh that now watching these guys deal with this stuff. The idea if Ken Martin wanted to do his job and raise some money, I. I think that's where his time should be best spent. But the idea that he's managing resolutions that are going to deep them, dig them deeper into a hole is stupid.
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Mark Halpern
All right, a couple more things and then your questions. First of all, if you're interested in. In public opinion, in particular in the Democratic side on Israel, Rebuild Galston's Common. The Wall Street Journal today. Very ominous. If you're a believer in Americans supporting Israel, you will. You will be surprised yet again at the data and how particularly younger people on both sides, but particularly on the Democratic side, really do not have your mommy and daddy's level of support for Israel. It's quite something. Okay. President Trump is going to the Kennedy center today. We're expecting the Kennedy Center Honors to be announced today. You have to. I forgot to do the daybook. Thank you, Paul. I forgot. But there's not much going on. You have to be willing to be an honoree. You can't just. They can't just announce people, so they got to check with them all. You can expect this to skew to Trump supporters. There's talk about George Strait, about Kiss, about Michael Crawford as potential honorees. Who knows who will be honored. But I can tell you this, ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States is a showman. And I give you exhibit number 9,700. Paul, please play 109. This is from Israel's version of Dancing with the Stars.
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Dean from Ohio
There.
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Mark Halpern
There's a place you can go.
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Dan Turn
When.
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Sean Spicer
You short on your.
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Mark Halpern
All right, enough of that. We just. We just like to show you good videos and. And to that end, here is something you don't see every day. Greatest baseball player of the modern era, hitting into a triple play. 110, please. Two balls, two strikes lined up the middle.
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Dean from Ohio
Nettles. Got it. Stops on second. Throw to first. It's a triple play. Whoa. A pitcher's best friend, Shohei. It's into a triple play to win the inning. And rushing is slow to get up at first.
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Mark Halpern
Yeah, I hope he's okay. What a moment here at Angel Stadium in the Freeway Series with Shohei Ohtani right in the middle of it. A man who's always involved in history.
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Sean Spicer
Lines into a triple play in a.
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Mark Halpern
Tie game here in the sixth inning at the Big Eight. Well, we say when show. All right, enough of that. Now it's time for you all, the two way community. A big part of the program even. Especially when we're on the podcast version. Christian, welcome in. On mute. Tell folks who don't know where you are and what's on your mind. For Dan And Sean, the YouTube world, the two way platform, Apple, Spotify, wherever you want to access the morning meeting. Christian, welcome.
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J
Good morning. I'm in Clinton, Tennessee, East Tennessee, near Knoxville. First time on the platform.
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Mark Halpern
Grateful to have you here. Thank you.
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J
I'm a normal YouTube listener because I could listen at 2x, so if you want me on the platform here more often, you're gonna have to find a way to do the live show 2X, but.
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Mark Halpern
All right. Talk faster.
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J
Yeah, I'm not a fast talker, so, yeah, can't live up to it. My question is about Ukraine specifically. Why aren't we hearing any more about the rare earth minerals deal?
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Mark Halpern
Yeah.
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J
Is that a big motivation in Trump's mind? How seriously does he feel about it?
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Mark Halpern
That's the question. Yeah.
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J
I was just looking up, though, while we were in the earlier part of the program, and it seems that their reserves are actually quite small and that it won't. It's not expected to be a big factor like 1% of the world's reserves, and then it would take billions of investment to even get it going at all. And it's in that east contested area. So I don't know how hard may Trump push that or how how big does that factor into his thinking?
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Mark Halpern
Great question, Sean.
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Sean Spicer
Again, a great question. I think that what's driving him more than anything is the idea of saying that the war is over, right, that he got peace. That's, that's the number one, number two and number three thing right now.
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Dan Turn
I think that was just a total farce to show that he, you know, that we, we were getting something so that because we were going to continue to put money, it's like doge you don't hear about it anymore. There's just more and more statistics coming out about what a joke it was like he's a showman, you know, he got good headlines.
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Mark Halpern
All right, Christian, I bet I, I listen a little bit. I think you're going to hear more about it as as the reality of as much as Putin is threatened by Ukraine's military integration into Europe and with the west, he's also threatened by their economic integration, but it's going to be harder for him to reject that. So I think this deal will come back to the fore as they if there is a deal where they talk, where the Ukrainians can feel that they are at least headed towards being part of the west, even if it's not through NATO. Christian? Thank you, Robert. Welcome in. Tell folks who don't know where you are and what's on your mind for Sean and Dan.
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Robert
Good morning, gentlemen. I, I'm from Los Angeles, California, so that I'm not chime in. I have two questions and I'll be extremely brief. The first is the New York mayor's race. I don't understand why it is nationally important because we don't talk about who the mayor of Miami or the mayor of Dallas or the mayor of Houston or the mayor of Seattle. I, I don't understand why it's a big national deal. So that's the first question. I like to have all your there.
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Mark Halpern
Yes, sir. Okay. Dan, go first. He lives in New York. He can explain.
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Dan Turn
Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's one, it's the biggest city in the country. It's home to the, you know, kind of media capital of of the world of the United States. And two, I just think the result was so shocking in that you have this person who came from out of nowhere with a message that was not something that people thought would resonate, that did and obviously, at the same time, the Democratic Party nationally is leaderless and rudderless. So I think, well, no But, I mean, we all laugh, but it's true. And I think, don't forget Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries are in New York. That's where they live. And the fact that a socialist, a proud, avowed socialist one, I think was like, whoa, is something happening out there? Is, is the Democratic Party moving further to the left and is this a harbinger of things to come?
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Mark Halpern
Don?
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Sean Spicer
Yeah. So, Rob, first of all, I think it's a great question. I've always, you know, for a long time is fascinating, like, why. Why do we care about this more than others? There is something symbolic about New York City. I mean, it just, it is, it is where so many people came through. It's so big. The police force is massive. It was attacked in a spectacular way on 9 11. I mean, because of its symbolism to America. The Statue of Liberty is there. I mean, so I, I get your point. I agree with you. Like, you know, for the longest time, I was, why, why do we care? Why does that. They get overshadowed. But then I think on the political front, Dan's right. There was something very significant about the shift in what to read out of this race. And the, the third piece I'd say is that it's also like, there's not politically. You've got New Jersey, Virginia and the New York mayor's race, so you try to figure out what's going on to talk about politically. And, and that's where, you know, in a normal, if this was not as in cycle of, of a even year, we wouldn't be talking about the same way.
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Robert
Right.
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Max
And not to.
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Mark Halpern
Yeah.
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Dan Turn
Not.
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Robert
Not to. Oh, go ahead.
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Mark Halpern
I'll just say, because I've studied this for my whole career. 15 on the merits, biggest city, you know, tourism, all that. 15. 85 people in New York. That's where the media is. It's, it's 85. Total crap. 85. Just absolute. Like that old New Yorker cartoon detected from Manhattan. It's 85. And, and you see stories all over the country that if they happened in New York would be a thousand times more covered. It's just complete bias. That's all it is. Yeah, and.
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Robert
And just to piggyback on, on a little bit of what all you said, because again, I understand that people are making this big kind of socialist push and so on and so forth, but my theory is that, or my belief is that whatever the people in that region or in that city decide, if that's what they want, that's what they want. That's how democracies work. So, second question, and again, I'll be very brief. In terms of Israel, is this a topic that unites both the Democratic and Republican Party? And the reason why I say that is that as you guys just earlier mentioned, it seems like on the ground, those under the age of 40 in both parties are kind of tending towards being kind of anti Israel. You see Marjorie Taylor Greene, you see Thomas Massie, you see all the podcasters, from Joe Rogan to the Neat Boys to a myriad of others are slowly beating that Trump of being kind of against funding Israel and stuff like that. So you see it on both sides.
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Mark Halpern
Sides, yep.
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Robert
So it's, it's, is it something that is somewhat uniting a very younger demographic?
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Mark Halpern
It is, Sean.
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Sean Spicer
I agree. It's actually a brilliant observation there. There's a lot of things, There's a huge shift about what matters above and below a certain age. And I think this is, goes back to sort of the America first agenda, like these guys who don't want any intervention. And I, and I understand, I think in many cases, without getting into it too much just to say I think we overdid it for years where we, you know, and the same thing's true on trade. It was like we use trade as a soft power tool. We finally came to say, why do we still do it? The Soviet Union's gone. Like, we don't need that anymore. And so I think there's these legacy policies about how we do business around the world where people are like, yeah, that's their fight, that's their problem. That's not ours. And yeah, I agree with you. There's something very unique about the alignment of this at a certain age.
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Dan Turn
Robert, I, I couldn't agree with you more, which is why I said the other day, I don't know if you were watching that this could become a problem for J.D. vance. I agree with you. I think under 40 Republicans, all these new people coming into MAGA, into politics, as you say, through the Theo Vaughn kind of Joe Rogan, like the crypto guy, like, they are not pro Israel. They. It is this, like, why is my money going there? Why do we bother? I don't like this doesn't look good. I don't want anything to do with it. The Iraq war, you know, like, it's just a morass of mess and corruption. And I, that's why I think both parties, it is going to be an interesting thing. It's worse on our side. But I think if I'm J.D. vance, I am not locking arms with Bibby. The way Donald Trump has. I'm just not.
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Mark Halpern
Robert, Robert, I'll say one more thing and I'll say it carefully so not get backlash unnecessarily. You think of all the money APAC has, all the money wealthy Americans who support Israel have, many of whom are Jews. You think of Israel itself, very accomplished group of people, all of whom are sitting by and doing nothing that I see to try to work on this. Like, they need a big PR public education campaign with young people, and I see no evidence that they're doing it. APEC does a lot of stuff. They bring a lot of people to Israel. You know, they, they lobby, they give money in campaigns, they try to win Democratic primaries in particular. But man, if you care about sustained rebuilding and sustaining American support for Israel, there should be a hundred million dollar project of public education for young people in both parties. Because it's all happening. I mean, it's, it's, to use the cliche, it is spreading like wildfire in both parties. Yeah. It is out of control. And parents, and I just say there are a lot of parents I know who are supportive of Israel who have kids who are not. And those parents need help. Those parents need some help to know what to say to their kids to try to stem this. Go ahead, Robert.
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Dan Turn
Well, can I just add though, Mark, because it just goes to your point, they are trying to do it. And I know some people in both parties, podcasters, influencers, others, they're offering to have them go to Israel, tour, meet with people.
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Mark Halpern
They're doing that. Hold on, that's not enough.
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Dan Turn
They're rejecting it.
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Mark Halpern
Yeah. Yes.
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Dan Turn
And that is, should be scary, is the old tools in the toolbox are not working as much.
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Mark Halpern
Go ahead, Robert. Sorry.
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Robert
Does that make sense? Israel very, a very toxic topic for, for those in the political field.
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Mark Halpern
Yes.
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Dan Turn
Political.
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Robert
Either raise money or to bring it up. Because if that's the first or second question you're asked in the campaign trail, like, I don't know if you've seen a lot of these town halls since they've adjourned the house, that when they're going to these town halls from, from Nebraska to Maine or wherever, huge outcry of like, why is our money going to Israel? And these are just bread and butter, folks.
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Mark Halpern
Yeah. For decades, decades, almost every, not every, but almost every member of Congress was supportive of Israel. And it was, it either didn't come up or if it did, it was a layup. You said we stand with Israel. They're, they're, they are resting on Their laurels.
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Sean Spicer
There's. It's funny that we're talking about this in this context, because I remember when I left the US Trade Rep's office in the second term of Bush, we're having these conversations with a lot of businesses saying the issue of trade is slipping away. There is less. Like people aren't seeing it in the same way anymore. There was, it was for the longest time on both sides of the both parties. It was a given. You were going to vote for trade stuff. And it started to slip away with nafta, with Roth, Perot, and everyone sat there and to Mark's point about the money, these. All these business groups sat there and said, how could you be against it? Like there's no way. And they just watched it. And suddenly you've now ended up in a very anti.
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Mark Halpern
In the same perfect comparison. Perfect comparison. If you could turn the clock back, the Chamber of Commerce, Business Roundtable, national association, even manufacturers, they all should have been spending tens of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars keeping free trade consensus together. And instead they just sat by while the, while the wildfire burned on the far left. Populist left, populist right. It's happening on Israel, and I'm just amazed. The Israelis are so good at so many things. Their PR is horrendous and. And it happens every time there's a conflict, every time there's a controversy. But this is different because the bipartisan consensus in favor of Israel is crumbling. And again, go read Bill Galston's comment. It's got all the data in it about where it is. Robert, thank you for being part of Two Way.
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Dan Turn
Mark and Sean, can I ask you a question? Because we've talked about it, we talked about in the group chat, you know, Steve Bannon flirting with potentially running. Could you see Bannon going at Vance on this would be one of the issues where he would try to say, like, what if Miriam Adelson says if.
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Mark Halpern
He ran, of course, yeah, I'll put.
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Dan Turn
In 50 million for J.D. vance in a super PAC. And Steve Bannon says, aha. Yeah, I'm flipping this. He's bought by a pack. He's paid for it 100%. Yeah.
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Mark Halpern
All right, Max, real quick, because we're short of time. We got some other business to do.
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Max
Thanks.
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Dan Turn
Where are you?
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Max
Lake Como in Italy.
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Mark Halpern
Max. Max, that's a good name for you. Do you get that? Do you get that reference? Max. Max, that's a good. Okay. And then number two, of course, give George our best.
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Max
So real quick, to allude to Sean Spicer what he said before mentioning mentioning Bush because I know you guys are on a timeline. The soft underbelly of racism is low expectations. And seeing the from here the reaction to from media types as well as left leaning or left left elected officials are giving Trump such an Easy win with D.C. the question I have for you all, has Anybody looked up ShotSpotter on DC today? DC has a ShotSpotter app where you could see how many firearms were discharged normally illegally. The answer is zero. And that is going to be an easy drum to beat. And I don't understand how the left continues to give such easy layups to a guy who's incredible political animal. So the question I have for you all is how can the media and the left continually fall into the same trap over and over again? Do they like getting, I mean is it, do they like being abused? And with that I'll stop.
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Mark Halpern
It's hard to think clearly with Trump derangement syndrome.
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Dan Turn
Dan Mark said it. They just hate the guy so much they can't, can't see straight.
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Mark Halpern
And, and the other thing Max is of course I'll say the most obvious thing possible. Trump understands all this. This is all, this is all, this is all well thought through. And but, but here's, here's the miscalculation the left makes. They think it's all a gimmick. They think it's all inspire the MAGA base. The thing, the thing that most, that ironically the things that most discombobulate the dominant media and the Democrats are things they think Trump's doing that only appeal to the base when in fact they have broad appeal. Immigration, crime, going after changing NATO like he's doing popular things and they, and they're screaming about norms. It's just, it's happened for 10 years.
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Dan Turn
And the status quo.
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Mark Halpern
And the status quo. Correct.
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Sean Spicer
So I think the thing that's fascinating to me and I'm scrolling through our group chat not, not Dan's group chat show but on Friday before the show I sent this political story to the group said we need to talk about this because it's the idea that Trump made an announcement on Monday morning at 10am about DC crime and it is Wednesday and we're still just shows you how brilliant of a producer he is.
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Mark Halpern
Yeah.
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Sean Spicer
He said I'm going to change the entire narrative that the country is going to talk about and get everybody in this. Exactly. Max, to your point. And, and I, and I reflexively know it like he, he had his finger on the pulse so well that he Thought, I'm going to announce this thing, everyone's going to go nuts. And for four or five days you'll still be talking about it.
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Dan Turn
And you know what's remarkable?
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Mark Halpern
Let's let Max get one more.
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Max
There's just certain things that I just still can't understand. Yes, he has this pulse on it, but the reaction from the left and from elected officials, you know, again, using George Bush's analogy that, you know, low expectations is a soft underbelly of racism to say, oh, well, it's not that bad. That's, you know, how, oh, only 100 people were shot yesterday. Or I saw the mayor of Baltimore beating his chest that only 100 people were shot, were killed in Baltimore.
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Sean Spicer
Well, let's look at, look at Politico did an analysis today and said they've only can confirm 2 billion. Only can confirm 2 billion in statements. And I'm like, yeah, it sucks when you only get 2 billion in savings. Like, it's just they, they hate him so much that nothing is ever going to be good enough.
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Max
We're talking about, like, easy, like murder is the worst of the worst.
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Mark Halpern
Max, we understand, we understand why you don't understand, but just, I'll just say it's hard to think straight with Trump derangements.
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Dan Turn
Well, and it's also true. Look, you also have to just one, he did describe a scene that is not true. Right. So one, it just sets people off. It just set them off.
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Mark Halpern
Some of them, the rapists and murderers, some of them are good people, too, as he said when he announced the president. Max, thank you. Enjoy the pasta. I recommend the tomato sauce.
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Dan Turn
And actually, by the way, for the first 12 hours, Democrats were somewhat silent. And I think then the base said, that's unacceptable. And so then they all.
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Mark Halpern
Correct, correct. You know the history of it. Someone should go do a history of this. Sean, what do you have tonight?
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Sean Spicer
There's been a lot of allegations that Adam Schiff leaked information to set up Donald Trump. Tonight, John Solomon joins the show for the latest on the Russia hoax and where we are with Adam Schiff.
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Mark Halpern
Okay, Two Way tonight, amongst our guests will be Beverly Hallberg, a fan favorite. If you've never seen Beverly on the show, people love when Beverly's on. No episodes this week of Bridget's show or of Megan's show. So two Two Ways today, this program, which is ending in moments. And then I'll see you at six for two Way tonight. I'll be on Smerconish at ten in moments. And don't forget new episode of nextup has dropped, including my extended conversation with Drew Holden and Steve Krakauer about the media's continued bias against Donald Trump, even as their efforts underway at some big legacy organizations to try to fix things again. The program's a podcast now, so if you'd like to listen again, please recommend it to your friends. Wherever you get your podcast, you can listen to both the Morning Meeting and two Way tonight at double speed if you like it. And there's nothing more, nothing more dulcet toned than dan Turntine at 2x. And you can listen to them again on Apple and Spotify. Wherever you get your podcast, we are still in the throes of selection of the program of this program's theme song. Beginning of the show, we played you a Motown version. Here is the first attempt, thank you, Dean from Ohio, of a country western version. I quite fancy this one. We'll see you tomorrow 9:00am Eastern Time. But stay tuned in 3, 2, 1.
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Dean from Ohio
Pour your coffee Pull up a chair Mark on the air from the hill to your hometown street it's the place where all folks meet Good morning from the morning meeting where the facts are fresh and the takes keep eating Left or right we all belong on two ways where the truth rides strong Mark's got questions sharp and sly Sees the story through both eyes Keeps the rhythm Guides the day with steady hands to light the way Dan's got style and a reason Tone brings a view that's all his own Sean's been in the big front row Knows the spin and the way things go Two sharp minds but different lanes that's how the the morning meeting games it's peace and love that's how we roll with grace and room for every soul Questions welcome smacks left out it's what this porch talk's all about Good morning from the morning meeting where the facts are fresh and the takes keep eating Left or right we all belong on two ways where the truth rides strong Good morning from the morning meeting where the facts are fresh and the taste keep eating left or right we all belong all two ways where the truth rides strong all.
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Mark Halpern
Right, I'm a big country western fan. I'm a big country western fan and I love that one. The phone lines are open now if you want to vote for that one. 900-887-4242 Again, now there's no 900 number.
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Dan Turn
But John, who do you have now? Which one? You've heard a bunch.
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Mark Halpern
Where are you, Sean?
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Dan Turn
Still yacht.
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Sean Spicer
I'm always also 100% yacht.
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Dan Turn
Rock yacht. All day long.
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Sean Spicer
And then. And then the, the. The one from the. The beginning. This morning. I'd like to hear a country, straight country. That was definitely country western.
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Dan Turn
That was a little quick for me. Yeah, for country.
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Mark Halpern
Dean, give us this country ballot. And I've requested Mercy be.
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Dan Turn
Oh, wait, wait.
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Sean Spicer
A ballad. You want a ballad? I mean, okay, I just want straight country. I want country.
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Mark Halpern
All right.
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Sean Spicer
Yeah, yeah.
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Mark Halpern
Forget about straight country. And Mercy Beat are coming again. Let us know which ones you like. But Sean's for yacht rock. I'm for the Motown one.
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Dan Turn
Currently, I'm still number one.
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Mark Halpern
Yeah. All right, so we got three different choices. Three hosts. Three choices. It's a problem with three hosts. Thank you for watching. Sorry, affiliates, we ran a minute over. We'll see Everybody in about 23 hours here on the morning meeting. Available now. It's a podcast.
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Sean Spicer
Bye.