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Moe and Jenna Abdou interview a highly influential roster of founders, venture capitalists, CEO's, master thinkers, bestselling authors, academic minds, and creatives to deconstruct the hidden insights that only those who are building breakthrough ventures can reveal. For ten years now, 33voices has engaged closely with founders, senior executives and company builders to identify interesting & pressing challenges that give rise to thoughtful dialogue with contributors who not only think differently, but who represent the frontiers of knowledge in business, culture and lifestyle.
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Flourishing as a Practice
Mar 2401:19:38Tap to summarizeI often remind myself of Jon Kabat-Zinn's insight: "When we understand that life is the curriculum, life itself becomes the meditation." Still, until recently, I only understood half the sentiment. Initially, I internalized it in a responsive manner. When life presented an opportunity to practice mindfulness, especially a challenge, I would respond in kind. It wasn't until reading Dr.Richard J. Davidson and Dr.Cortland Dahl's new book, Born to Flourish, that the quote finally landed. Jon's invitation isn't solely to respond with compassionate presence. It is to intend it in each moment. This is one of the central revelations Dr.Davidson and Dr.Dahl inspire (and my favorite line in the book)… "Flourishing is not a destination, but a practice." As Dr.Dahl illuminates, we often have elaborate visions of what it means to flourish. Still, each moment is an opportunity to practice the four skills in their framework: awareness, connection, insight, and purpose. To start, they encourage you to reflect on your daily routines and identify opportunities to infuse them with intention. It can be as simple as practicing gratitude while walking your dog or reflecting on our sense of interdependence before eating a meal. While these micro-practices may seem simple, compounded over time, they lead to neuro-plastic changes (causing the behaviors to unfold spontaneously) and elevate your baseline. Since reading Born to Flourish, I truly have come to see life as the meditation. As if with new eyes, I now see every interaction as an opportunity to practice. I move through my day with a deeper sense of joy and expansiveness; More attuned to the kindness of others and the goodness in the world. Two of my most revered teachers, Dr.Davidson and Dr.Dahl make a transformative difference in my life. They've devoted their life's work to studying the neuroscience of flourishing at The Center for Healthy Minds at The University of Wisconsin-Madison—where they conducted the first studies on advanced meditators' brains—as well as at their non-profit Humin. We explore their pioneering research and practices to wire your brain to flourish. To become the "architect of your inner experience," we learn how meditation alters the way that your brain responds to pain, how (and when) to shape the encoding of your memories, and why our subjective experience can be more impactful than our objective one, as well as how to relate to it. I hope our discussion will elevate your vitality as it did mine.
Transcribe →How to Prime Your Brain For Joy—with Dr.Wendy Suzuki
Aug 1201:08:45Tap to summarizeTake a moment to recall one of your most joyful memories. Now, close your eyes and relive it. Where were you? Who were you with? How did you feel? Focus on your senses. What did you see and hear? Smell and taste? Spend a few minutes reliving this memory. How did this mini-meditation make you feel? This is a practice called Joy Conditioning, created by Dr.Wendy Suzuki. Since learning it, I've started my morning meditation by reliving my beautiful moments from the day prior. This simple ritual transformed my energy; Inspiring feelings of awe, abundance, and appreciation to start the day. Dr. Suzuki is an author, the Dean of Arts and Sciences at New York University, as well as a Professor of Neural Science and Psychology. Her research focuses on brain plasticity. She's done pioneering studies on anxiety, meditation, exercise, and memory. Still, the heart of her work is how we can prime our brains to experience more joy. The first step? Cultivate an activist mindset. This is the throughline of Dr.Suzuki's work: In illuminating our agency to change our beliefs, she empowers us to transform our energy. As she writes in, Good Anxiety: "When you believe that you are able to adapt, you will feel yourself thrive as you adapt." We explore these tools to do so in our conversation… The impact chronic stress has on your brain and how to reverse it Identifying and freeing yourself from anxiety triggers Exercise as the most powerful tool to promote brain plasticity and preserve your memory How to change the stories you tell yourself and adopt new beliefs (in a surprisingly playful way!) Why joy is essential to flow and high performance
Transcribe →An Activist's Journey Leading the Clean Living Movement
Aug 501:05:39Tap to summarizeAfter Lindsay Dahl graduated from college, she was seeking a job in the environmental non-profit space. Despite being passionate about climate change, she landed a role in consumer safety. Soon after, she was invited to meet with one of the top environmental organizations in Minnesota. They hoped she'd support their advocacy efforts to remove toxic chemicals from baby products. Kids weren't on Lindsay's radar. Still, she said 'yes' and returned to her office for a late night of research. Her discoveries changed the course of her life—and yours. Lindsay's research revealed that toxic chemicals that are added to consumer products—from skin care to pans to mattresses—negatively impact our health. Studies link these toxic chemicals to asthma, immune system damage, cancer, infertility, and more. Since that fateful meeting, Lindsay has been the lead strategist for the passage of over 30 laws to advance consumer safety, protect public health, and address climate change. She's also established new standards for businesses through her leadership at Beautycounter and Ritual, where she is currently Chief Impact Officer. I've always appreciated Lindsay's discerning approach to activism. Our first conversation was the catalyst in prioritizing clean products for my family (a gift I'm forever thankful for). Still, her new book, Cleaning House, offers an even deeper awakening: Products made with harmful chemicals don't just influence your family's health. They can have severe implications for other families and the planet. (Chemical exposure for those who live in fenceline communities, where these chemicals are made or trash is incinerated, can lead to debilitating health outcomes.) This is the heart of Cleaning House and the next chapter of Lindsay's advocacy. "We've made so much progress in the consumer marketplace," she shared. "Now, we need to have a more global and public health view, versus an individual wellness lens. If we stop at: You can shop your way out of this. There's a lot of communities that don't have the time, resources, or financial ability to purchase safer products. It leaves those who can't afford to relocate in a position where they're being overly burdened with toxic chemical exposure, which is unjust." Thanks to Lindsay, this topic is dear to my heart. Our intention for this conversation was to inform and empower you to make decisions that are healthier for your family, other families, and the planet. So, we did a deep dive on… The health implications of the toxic chemicals in our everyday products Tips to shop safer for your family A behind the scenes look at the regulation, and the corporate malfeasance that occurs when it's weak Lindsay and her colleagues' extraordinary reform efforts Steps you can take to advance this movement Despite the challenges of activism, Lindsay is the most hopeful she's ever been. I hope her wisdom will be as perspective-shifting for you, as it is for me.
Transcribe →Letting Go as an Act of Self-Compassion—with Sharon Salzberg
Jun 2700:55:06Tap to summarizeWhen Sharon Salzberg was teaching at a meditation retreat, a student asked her: Has anyone ever died of restlessness in meditation? Sharon said: Not from one moment at a time of it. "We have physical pain, disappointment, restlessness, and anxiety," Sharon shared. "Whatever it is, we tend to compound it, not only: This is what I'm feeling right now. But, this is what I'm going to feel like next year. Everything congeals and feels permanent and heavy. But, when we realize that it's one moment at a time of it. Then, we can explore. What we see is that even though something may last over time, within itself it's moving. It's changing and flowing. It's in the live system. As a friend with a severe chronic pain condition said: "I found the space within the pain." How do you discover the space within the pain? As a renowned author, teacher, and meditation pioneer, Sharon has made a transformative difference in my internal dialogue; Most significantly, in helping me avoid being overcome by my emotions. (My most repeated Sharon phrase is: The point isn't not to have the emotion. It's not to be overcome by it.) In our conversation, we explore how to discern the add-ons to our internal narrative, let go of those that don't serve us, and cultivate compassion towards ourselves and others. Sharon describes mindfulness as skills training. With sustained practice, these tools become ingrained; Surfacing to help you question your thoughts and redirect your energy in the moment. "Situations are complex," she added. "But, if we've practiced that skill, we remember to go back into the body and feel what we're feeling. We cultivate a certain sense of balance—That's the skill." If you feel inspired to listen to our past conversations, you can tune in here: The Cultivation of Freedom and Happiness and The Journey from Contraction to Expansiveness
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How to Live with Ease—with Dr.Thema Bryant
Jun 501:01:02Tap to summarizeWhile preparing for my interview with Dr.Thema Bryant, I was struck by an exercise she shared. During a podcast, she invited listeners to fill out the prompt: "I miss me who…" I was surprised by how quickly a simple prompt awakened dormant longings; And, eager to learn how to rediscover the lost parts of ourselves. In reflecting on her journey, she shared: "In healing, I return to the truth of myself." Her sentiment captures why the prompt stood out to me: Too often, we wait too long to embody our essence—or never do it at all. In our conversation, Dr.Thema leads us on our path back home. As a renowned psychologist, professor, minister, author, and sacred artist, she's the perfect guide. We discuss how to identify what keeps you from feeling inner peace, rewrite the stories that cause you to settle, and learn to live with ease. Spiritually, she shares surprising insights on how to connect with the divine and why that too is a journey of homecoming.
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In Stillness, What You Need Finds You—with Pico Iyer
Jan 15, 202501:11:17Tap to summarizeThe first time I read my favorite poem, On Prayer, this stanza stood out to me… For what is prayer but the expansion of yourself into the living ether? And if it is for your comfort to pour your darkness into space, it is also for your delight to pour forth the dawning of your heart. And if you cannot but weep when your soul summons you to prayer, she should spur you again and yet again, though weeping, until you shall come laughing. When you pray you rise to meet in the air those who are praying at that very hour, and whom save in prayer you may not meet. Therefore let your visit to that temple invisible be for naught but ecstasy and sweet communion. For if you should enter the temple for no other purpose than asking you shall not receive: And if you should enter into it to humble yourself you shall not be lifted: Or even if you should enter into it to beg for the good of others you shall not be heard. It is enough that you enter the temple invisible. Kahlil Gibran introduced me to the concept of emptiness. Still, I was always curious how one "enters the temple invisible." I was given a window into that journey through my dear friend Pico Iyer's new book, Aflame: Learning from Silence. It is a stunning reflection of his own experience becoming invisible across 34 years and over 100 stays at the New Camaldoli Hermitage in Big Sur. Here's how he describes this awakening… "So why am I exultant to find myself in the silence of this Catholic monastery? Maybe because there's no "I" to get in the way of the exultancy. Only the brightness of the blue above and below. That red tailed hawk circling, the bees busy in the lavender. It's as if a lens cap has come off, and once the self is gone, the world can come flooding in, in all its wild immediacy." We all crave this quality of presence; A yearning one of the monks captured when he said "the longing itself is the ecstasy." "Simone Weil said that the danger is not that there's no bread available. It's that we won't acknowledge that we're hungry," Pico says. "In other words, we're driving along the 405 freeway and we know that something's missing. But, we say: 'Oh, it doesn't matter. I'm in a good job. I'm taking care of my family. It'll take care of itself.' We drive right past that ache and longing that speaks for something lost and forgotten. The monks will tell me, or anyone who visits, that what you get at the hermitage is recollection; Meaning it's not a discovery and it's not revelation. It's recollection in the sense of collecting all of the scattered pieces of yourself and remembering something that you know deep inside of yourself, but that you forget in the rush of your everyday life." The thread that weaves our conversation has become a guiding principle for me: When you spend time in stillness, what you need finds you. This hour is a rich exploration of the beauty of surrender, why silence is the most trustworthy answer to any question, and how to be present when the muse appears. As Pico writes: "It's never possibility that's not present. Only me."
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Revitalizing Our Attention with Katherine May
Dec 6, 202400:56:18Tap to summarizeBefore my interview with Katherine May, a Mary Oliver quote resurfaced that felt representative of Katherine's work: "This is the first, wildest, and wisest thing I know, that the soul exists, and that it is built entirely out of attentiveness." Katherine's books, most recently Wintering and Enchantment, are testaments that the quality of our attention transforms the quality of our lives. "I firmly believe that the depth of attention we crave can only happen if we let ourselves slow down," she says. "Most of the time, we are speeding so far past everything that we don't have a chance to engage with it. When we can change pace and make space in our lives for more things to come in, then there's a handshake we can make with the world around us. We can go up to it slowly, meet, and observe it with all of our senses." This is Enchantment, as she describes it—"the ability to sense magic in the every day, to channel it through our minds and bodies, to be sustained by it." At its heart, it's an invitation for a new way of being. Katherine guides us to shift from living on autopilot to discovering the aliveness of each moment. Here, we discuss reconnecting with the intelligence of the body, the power of unlearning, and what the forest teaches us about prayer. Photographer credit: Alexa Loy Dent
Transcribe →Awakening to Our Blessings
Jun 6, 202400:49:22Tap to summarizeRabbi Sharon Brous was on her way to lead her community, IKAR—a Jewish community she founded 20 years ago with a new vision of how faith can center and connect us—in the sacred ceremony of Tashlikh, when she stopped to buy index cards and sharpies. It was an unexpected stop, given the day's holiness: Every year between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur, the two holiest days of the year, the Jewish community visits a body of water to release their sins, or anything they don't want to carry into the new year, into the water. Still, Rabbi Brous was reflecting on the dying wishes of her dear friend and community member, Erin, and had a question for the community. During her final days, Erin wrote that each of us has an innate sense of who we're called to be. Yet, despite that knowing, too often we construct reasons to delay fulfilling our calling. On the brink of her own tragic death, Erin asked—What if we don't have forever?—and urged her community to live urgently. When Rabbi Brous delivered her message to the IKAR community, overlooking the Pacific Ocean for Tashlikh, she asked: What are you waiting for? The question—What are you waiting for?—is the through-line of each topic we explore in this rich conversation about her book, The Amen Effect; From getting quiet enough to hear divine wisdom and cultivating our spiritual strength, to accompanying each other through joy and sorrow and, inspired by the Jewish ritual of being thankful for 100 blessings, creating our own system of blessings. As you settle into this conversation, consider a yearning that exists deep within your heart. What are you waiting for to pursue it? What is one step you might take to move towards it today?
Transcribe →Anne Lamott on the Love that Holds Us Invisibly
Apr 11, 202400:46:01Tap to summarize"When we are paying attention, we see how much love holds us invisibly." This is the line that stayed with me most from Anne Lamott's new, and 20th book, Somehow: Thoughts on Love. I read it during a stressful weekend and it illuminated the beauty of my family and friends' care. As Anne says, "humanity is another synonym for God." Anne's gift is her rare ability to combine spiritual wisdom and laugh out loud humor into an operating manual for life, even, and especially, amidst its imperfection. In our conversation, we explore our ongoing journey to find our center and cultivate the sense of peace we deserve to reside in. Editor's Note: I was moved by Anne's definition of love in our conversation and couldn't resist sharing my favorite part here… "There's a beautiful line in the Hebrew Bible…It talks about deep calling to deep. That could be the waterfall calling to the stars, but it could also be the deepest part inside me, inside my heart, calling to you; Calling to the redwood tree outside my window, the daffodils that just came up yesterday. Love is an energy…It's everywhere we look."
Transcribe →Learned Excellence
Feb 9, 202400:54:57Tap to summarizeQuentin Tarantino once said "I want to risk hitting my head on the ceiling of my talent. I want to really test it out and say, 'Okay, you're not that good. You just reached the level here.' I don't ever want to fail, but I want to risk failure every time out of the gate." This bold and farsighted perspective is a key ingredient that Eric Potterat and Alan Eagle highlight in their work with and observation of a wide-ranging group of elite performers across business, extreme sports, and the militarily. In their book - Learned Excellence: Mental Disciplines for Leading and Winning from the World's Top Performers - they share the five principles that anchor their approach towards perpetual excellence. While the principles themselves may not surprise you, the discipline and execution prowess of the outliers we discuss will inspire you to reimagine your own pursuit of greatness. Here's a glimpse of the topics we explore: The distinguishing characteristic that makes elite performers singular. The role that biology and/or genetics plays in achieving excellence? The five principles of Learned Excellence. How negative self-talk can be a performance multiplier? The myth of one's potential. Why 'Growth Mindset' is an incomplete discipline? The role your breath plays in helping you embrace adversity.
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