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We're here. Charlie Whitehead was bigger than light. The way he carried himself, his enthusiasm, his come on, let's go. He had a zest for life. He always wore a huge smile. My name is Kathy Hastings and I was a friend of Charlie White's. Charlie White on the jet plane. He had his own jet and his own pilot. He loves the Cowboys. Charlie was in the top three or four of the longest season ticket holders. He loved the Mavericks $500 seats. He knew all the players. He watched their points. It was his love. He lived in a million dollar home on the waterfront. Charlie was a very successful person in life. He was a self made millionaire. He was a playboy. He fancied himself as being a ladies man. He loved being around beautiful women. He loved looking at women. There's no crime against having girlfriends in the United States of America, to my knowledge. Well, the three times I had sex with him, it was the worst I've ever had in my life. Hi, Jordan. Charlie was a very likable person by first impression. Hi, baby. But once you got to know him, he became a very evil person. They have absolutely no clue who Charlie White is. They know one side of him. I know both. I'm Adrian Ramos, a friend of the White family. How much time did you serve serving? I don't think a lot of people really saw what Charlie was like. Condescending, nasty, vile. I don't owe you any money yet, mother. Very cruel. He did the wrong thing at the wrong time on the wrong day and somebody had had enough and they weren't going to take it anymore. This was not a robbery or a burglary that went wrong. Charlie was badly battered about the face and head. Had an extension cord wrapped a number of times around his throat. I think that Charlie White brought all this upon himself with his lifestyle and his attitudes and arrogance. We probably had an uphill battle to try to determine which of his enemies might have done this to him. A lot of people didn't like Charlie White sleeping with someone's wife or daughter or girlfriend. He wasn't very nice to people and it got him in the end. He was our good friend and nobody, nobody deserves to die the way he. Blood and money on Horseshoe Bay. Tonight's 48 Hours Mystery. In the Texas hill country. Just outside Austin sits a little piece of paradise called Horseshoe Bay. Nice place, huh? It's a beautiful place. I think it's one of the most beautiful places in the world. Police Chief Bill Lane has patrolled these waterways for the past nine years. It's a Laid back but fun loving community. What's it like to be police chief here? I've died and gone to heaven. All around us are signs of wealth, success and ultimately happiness. These are people who are living a good life. That's correct. Nobody came to Horseshoe Bay to be miserable. But the serenity of this tranquil setting was shattered in November 2005 when police were dispatched to the lakeside mansion of one of its most colorful eccentric citizens, millionaire Charlie White. We felt the night that we found the body that this could be a very broad investigation. So Chief Lane turned to a legendary band of lawmen. The Texas Ranger, veteran Ranger Joey Gordon. We had to go through the area between the house and this fence. You eventually enter this house with an officer with a video camera? Yes, sir. Fix them, make entry into the residence. What did you see as you made your way downstairs? It looked very orderly. There was nothing out of place. But as we entered into the living room, we began to detect the odor of a decomposing body. It was clear to Ranger Gordon that Charlie White had been brutally beaten. We found that his ribs had been broke. He had received several blows into the jaw and the head area. Gordon believes this liquor bottle was used to smash Charlie's face. To knock a tooth completely out and across a body and halfway across a room takes significant amount of force. Somebody had beaten the hell out of Charlie White. Sure did appear so, yes, sir. An extension cord was also found wrapped several times around Charlie White's neck. What ultimately was the cause of Charlie White's death? The ME's office listed Blunt force trauma and strangulation as the cause of death. I couldn't believe it. Charlie's friends Roseanne and Jerome Davis, Carol Noble, Liz Taber and Kathy Turner soon learned of Charlie's fate. It was horrible. We live in this beautiful community. These things aren't supposed to happen. They're not supposed to happen. They said, it's Charlie. He's gone. I wailed. I wailed. I called Liz. I could tell by her voice, I just knew that he was gone. He was just a very, very good man and a lot of fun and I miss his spirit. It was hard to imagine that this larger than life man was gone. Well, hello, Charles White. Besides his friends, Charlie White left behind a family and an ex wife. I wanted to go to college, but I guess I wanted to marry him more. Gerda was 16 when she first met Charlie at his military school prom. He was tall and good looking. We danced once and I went home and told my parents that I had met the Man, I wanted to marry. Charlie and Gerda went on to have five children. Darren was the youngest. A lot of the memories came from his little league coaching. I was a seven year old on an eight year old team. I remember one game where he sent me into the middle of the line with all the big kids and that was quite fun. And I came back with a big grin on my face. Charlie made his fortune building a profitable chain of beauty schools throughout the Southwest. He was a hard working person. It didn't just happen for him. He wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth. But the more successful he became, the more his marriage began to unravel. Do you have any fond memories of your mother and father together as a married couple living in the same house? Not really. Not one, no. It's been a sad life. So no one was surprised when in 1975, Charlie and Gerda got a divorce. But far more serious tragedy was about to unfold. That same year, their 11 year old daughter was struck by a car and eventually died. And in 2001, another son committed suicide. Charlie White's friends say he never got over losing those two children. He talked at length about each and every one of his children and I'm like, this man has a huge heart and he's been hurt deeply. But Charlie moved on, eventually retiring to a life of leisure and, and luxury. He's just gregarious, wonderful, happy. This is him 99% of the time. There was not enough time in a day to do everything Charlie wanted to do. Time for the games and fun to begin. What were Charlie's passions in life? Women, money, sports and women. Some of those women, Kathy Hastings says, were dates. Many others were paid to party. High priced prostitutes. Well, I know he hired hookers. How do you know that? He told me Charlie would have sex with one girl on Thursday and maybe on the weekend he'd have sex with someone else. And he didn't keep it a secret. There were some unsavory women in his life. Yes, there were. No one's denying that. Would you say that Charlie White lived on the edge? Absolutely. A lifestyle that some people would say is risky? I would consider it risky. Police wondered if that risky lifestyle could have something to do with his murder. It could be that a hooker deal gone bad. Maybe the prostitute or the pimp took revenge on Charlie. At the crime scene, investigators continued piecing together the evidence. He had a briefcase that he kept a lot of his business papers in. And this briefcase was opened and dumped on top of his body. Papers on his body? Yes, sir. That's very strange, isn't it? Yes, sir. Somebody's making a statement with those papers. Could it be a bad business deal? And then there was another tantalizing clue found inside Charlie White's chest. This defibrillator, which monitors and regulates the heart. This is the actual device that was in Charlie White. Nick Lubers works for Boston Scientific, the manufacturer of Charlie White's defibrillator. I've established communication between my computer and Charlie White's defibrillator. So basically, what this device can tell us is what Charlie White's heart was going through at the time of this attack and when it was going through it. Absolutely. This is the picture of what his heart was doing at the time. The heart was in a normal rhythm. The device detects that it is now in an unstable rhythm and it needs to treat it. It delivers its first shock boom, right here. Charlie White got shot eight times during this episode. There was nothing it could do to save Charlie White. Charlie White died at 9:38pm Nov. 11, 2005. I've never had a murder case where we could determine the exact month, day, hour and moment that a person died. This information, coupled with credit card receipts found at the crime scene, placed Charlie at this Walmart just two hours before his death. This is Charlie exiting the vehicle, coming across the parking lot, going into the Walmart store. And the tape revealed he wasn't alone. When that second individual got out of the car, our heart started beating faster. We said, bingo, we have got someone with Charlie just prior to his death. We absolutely have to identify who this person is. Confronting high credit card debt can feel scary. But the good news is if you owe $10,000 or more in credit card debt, financial relief options are now available. National Debt Relief is currently offering debt relief designed to reduce what you owe and put you on the fast track to becoming debt free. 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But Adrian Ramos, a White family friend for more than 25 years. Did you have a good night, Charlie? Great night. Says Charlie had a darker side. He's a son of a bitch. Anybody that knew both sides of Charlie white knew he was an evil person. Adrian witnessed firsthand the other Charlie at a golf tournament just outside Austin. Typical Charlie White behavior. That would definitely be a ticket to jail. Adrian provided 48 hours with photos of the event. It was sponsored by a strip club, and they had the dancers out there basically running around the course topless. Charlie had invited some business associates and friends to join him, where the term foursome took on a whole new meaning. What were these women doing? A lot of things that they shouldn't have been, Including having repeated sex with Charlie White. I've seen Charlie giving girls oral sex. I've seen girls giving Charlie oral sex. On the golf course. On the golf course. The strippers and exotic dancers on the golf course were just a small sampling of the women in Charlie White's social life. After he died, police discovered a list of more than 1,000 such women, complete with Charlie's own handwritten descriptions. He had no respect for women. Adrian claims Charlie was also an alcoholic. When he drank, it was a different person. Charlie just got mean. You did not want to get in his way. When he was upset, he would be very intimidating and threatening, as he once was with Adrian Ramos brother. After the two began arguing on the deck of Charlie's house, Charlie had walked into the house, grabbed a shotgun, loaded it, and started pointing it around. You're joking. True story. He pointed that shotgun at everybody there. And what was he saying? I'm gonna kill you. He was basically directing that towards my brother. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, here's how you do it. Charlie's youngest son, Darren, defused the situation by taking the gun away from his father. Nice one, Charlie. Adrian says it was Charlie's drunkenness and temper that ultimately ended their friendship. There are a lot of people that wish Charles White did. I used to dream of doing it, if you want to be really honest, But I never had the nerve. Charlie's ex wife Gerda, says living with Charlie was a living nightmare. I don't know how you could supposedly love somebody and call them the names that I was called throughout marriage. Those things stick in your mind and you have very low self esteem. Gerda says Charlie could also be cruel with his children. He seemed to find a certain bliss in taking the kids back to the bedroom and beating him with a belt. He's a pretty boy. But no one, she says, endured more pain and humiliation than Darren, who lived on and off with his father. And right up until his death, it seems like all he knew how to do was bitch and moan and criticize and destroy people. What do you think about Darren when you think of your father? Extremely violent. It wasn't a father and son relationship. It was a. A son that was terrified of his father. This is Darcy, Darren's ex girlfriend. I saw times when Charlie would slap Darren on the head and tell him he was a no good piece of crap, basically, and he would just kind of cower and walk away. Darcy says Darren was the polar opposite of Charlie. He's just the most kind, sweet, gentle person I've ever met. He was just an easygoing guy. But it was Darren's easygoing attitude that became a major source of friction between him and his hard charging, ambitious father. Were you a disappointment in your father's eyes? I think because I didn't graduate college, I might have been looked upon as that. Darcy says Charlie enjoyed abusing and embarrassing Darren. Everything Darren did, he would put him down over and over, over and over. Every day. Every day. It's like somebody yelling at you to the point where you think they're about to have a heart attack On a day in, day out basis. What would he say to you? Give me some examples of how he treated you. And you dumbass son of a bitch, you're just like your mother and God, it just goes on and on like that, but it's so much louder. Darren had difficulty holding down a job and spent his time jockeying back and forth between parents. The older he got, the more he relied on his father. That's when he says he became more of a servant than a son. It was just the most degrading human being I've ever heard of. Darren says he was charged with making sure all his father's needs were fulfilled. It was just like I was a supplier of his girls. Charlie and Darren would go to a bar and Darren would be the one that would have to pick up the women because Darren was, you know, young and good looking and it made him sick. He was pimping, in a way, for his dad. The way Darren tells it, no woman Was off limits. Even Darren's own girlfriends. You're telling me your father had sex with some of your girlfriends? Yeah, but he didn't get my favorite. He didn't get Darcy. Right? He tried, though. Yes, he did. Charlie asked me if I would have a threesome with him and Darren. That is just beyond creepy. What did you say to him? I said no. First I thought he was joking, and he wasn't joking, and I told Darren. And what was Darren's reaction? He was just. It was. He was sick. He's just. Bizarre excuse for a human being. Darren's troubled relationship with his father caught the eye of authorities at the scene. What was Charlie's friends telling investigators? Well, they were telling us that we sure needed to be looking at Darren. As the murder investigation unfolds, authorities were narrowing in on one man, Charlie's youngest son, Darren. The information about Darren White put him front and foremost. So Texas Ranger Joey Gordon decided to reach out to Darren, who voluntarily came in. D A R I N. Yes, sir. He was very cordial, but he was protective. I told him, the ball's in your lap. What do you want to do? After about an hour of questioning, Darren revealed he was with his father at the Walmart that night. It turns out Darren is that mystery man on the video. That is correct? Yes, sir. What followed was a remarkable story. Darren admitted that after returning home, he and his father got into an argument. He tells me that his dad then began to swing at him and that he then, in his words were. I had to respond. He threw. Just threw everything at me. Cases of beer. And just everything that was in his vicinity started just coming at me. Did he hit you? Yeah, he was hitting me as he was throwing. He tried to bulldoze me on his way to the playroom where the guns are kept. And that's when I started trying to keep him from going there. Where were you hitting him? Pretty much everywhere I could. Fists were flying. Your fists? All of our fists. Is it your belief that he would have killed you that night? Absolutely, without a doubt. Did you pick up anything and hit your father? One of the last things I did, about an inch or so left in the bottle. I gave him one last drink as I was knocking his teeth out with it. The next thing I knew, I was getting an extension cord out of the garage. So I tied him around, just his leg and then just wrapped around the sofa so if he did get up, he'd just trip or something. And then I decided that it looked better around his neck. I put my foot on one end of it and put my foot on the other end of it and wrapped it probably five or six times around his neck. What was your father doing while you wrapped this cord around his bleeding? He kept reaching. Reaching up at me, trying to scratch me and grab hold of my arm. Can you imagine what he went through as he watched his own son end his life? Yeah. And the thing that I get to remember is the last thing he did say was, son, I do love you. So I'll have that for the rest of my life to remember too. Darren then walked upstairs and went to bed. The next morning, Darren drove to his mother's home in New Mexico. I got up and immediately went and hugged her. She could feel my heart beating. It's just like being in another world. I think my son just told me he killed his dad. So what do the two of you decide to do? Pray. Was there any sense of relief once you realized he was gone? Oh, man, you would not believe my life since. I have never felt better in my life. Never felt so relieved. He's so sorry that this happened. But he said, the monster is gone. This is a picture of the crime scene as we first came upon it. But Ranger Gordon isn't buying Darren's story. I found no sign that there was anything thrown around that room. In fact, Gordon found no evidence to show 73 year old Charlie put up a fight at all. We photographed Darren and had him take his shirt off. Aside from a small little scratch, that was the only injury that was observed on Darren White. Do you believe Charlie White was actually physically threatening his son that night? No, sir, I do not. So what do you think happened that night? I think that he got upset at his dad and once he started, he didn't quit. He couldn't quit? No, I said he didn't quit. So there's some choice in here? Yes, sir. In your opinion it was a choice when it started. A choice to kill? Yes, sir. Seven days after Charlie White's body was discovered, authorities arrested Darren and charged him with the murder of his father. This was a premeditated murder. It was a conscious decision by Darren White to kill his father. Prosecutors Tom Kloot and Sam Oatman say Charlie White's killing is not some kind of justifiable homicide. This case is about murder. It's about murder without a valid excuse under the law. But one man is riding to Darin's defense. There's an old Texas saying that sometimes there's a misdemeanor murder. Texas attorney and rancher Eddie Schell says he will argue Darren acted out of sudden passion, where in the heat of the moment, he lost control. Darren exploded and he killed his father in a fit of rage. What caused that fit of rage? It was the years of torment and physical abuse and treating Darren like a dog. A crime of sudden passion carries a much lighter sentence, but to prove it, Eddie Shell must argue Darren was abused. He says one witness, a recluse living alone in the California desert, holds the key to this case. Foreign hi, I'm Katie Ring and welcome to crime house 24 7. Throughout the day, we bring you up to the minute crime coverage as stories break with daytime episodes hosted by Vanessa Richardson, keeping you informed on the cases unfolding right now. And at night, I take you deeper with Night Watch episodes, examining the facts, the evidence, the people at the center of today's biggest cases. New episodes of Crime House 24. 7 drop every weekday. Listen to and follow Crime House 24 7, available now wherever you get your podcasts. A thousand miles from where Darren White's trial is about to begin. Amid a wind farm near Palm Springs, California, lives a mysterious man in this broken down shack whose secrets may hold the key to Darren's freedom. He does not like people coming onto his property. He just wants everybody to stay away from him. Are you nervous at all? A little bit. Private investigator Bill Talley has been hired by Darren White's defense team to find this man and serve him with a subpoena to testify. I'm hoping that we can get him to the door, but then I'm also thinking of tactical options to make sure that we're safe because of his reputation of having firearms. The man living in that pile of junk behind me could be living in a mansion if he chose to. That's because he's one of the heirs to a multi million dollar estate. Sound intriguing? Well, there's more. His name is Ronnie White, one of Darren White's older brothers. Why is he living like this? Something has to really be driving him to want to stay away from society. Ronnie White left the family, as far as everything I know, because of the way Charlie White Sr. Treated him and everybody else in his family. Defense attorney Eddie Schell believes Ronnie White can back up his brother's claims of abuse at the hands of their father. Ronnie could add a lot of pieces to this puzzle. Ronnie would be an awesome witness for us if we could just get him. But clearly Ronnie doesn't want to be found. He's barricaded himself in there. I think I'm gonna take my weapon with me. You're not taking any chances, huh? Not taking any chances. Got a tower above his house with lights. Looks like there's a couple cameras up there. Yeah, that's definitely his truck. Yeah. So he's home. Mr. White, are you home? I'm Peter Van Sant with CBS News. We went with Talley as he entered ronnie White's property. Mr. White, can we speak with you, please? Get the note up on the door. You're about to experience a great deal of pain. You have a few seconds or a few minutes to leave. Use it wisely. Let's go. That's good enough for me. I think that he would physically do harm to us to keep his privacy. I think he'd set up some sort of a booby trap there. I noticed there are a lot of 12 volt batteries around there. That's what it appeared to me. That something to give you pretty good shock? Talley was never able to serve a subpoena. Ronnie's secrets, like his life, remain barricaded away. Facing overwhelming evidence and never denying that he killed his father, Darren pleads guilty. Your guilty plea was freely and voluntarily made, is that correct? Yes, sir. He throws himself on the mercy of the court, choosing to have a jury decide his sentence, which in Texas is its own trial. It's risky, but with a jury, we've got a shot at Darren being able to walk out of the courthouse. Eddie Schill will stick with his argument of sudden passion, a strategy that prosecutor Tom Kloot thinks is absurd. Sudden passion implies a lack of control, and that's not present in this case. He stops for a minute and thinks about what he's going to do before he goes out to the garage and gets the extension cord, comes back and wraps it around his father's neck and strangles him. This was a premeditated murder. Is there some significance to one tooth being found way over to the right and the other tooth found a little bit over to the left? At trial, prosecutors remind jurors of the brutality of the crime. That would indicate different directions of force to send those teeth opposite directions. Darcy Dickey, you, Honor. But Eddie Shell wants to keep the jury focused instead on what Charlie did to Darren. Charlie was very verbally and mentally abusive to Darren. I heard Charlie say, fetch me this, boy. You're a worthless piece of. You don't matter. You're stupid. You're an idiot. Just horrible. Horrible name calling these prostitutes. The defense paints a picture of perversion inside Charlie's house. I came downstairs and heard Charlie's TV On. So I walked in his room and he was having sexual intercourse with Darren's girlfriend. I'm sorry, Darren. You raised your right hand. You saw me swear. A firm testimony then. Darcy's father, William, describes meeting Charlie for the first time. He pointed over to a hot tub where there were two or three girls and bikini bathing suits. Pointed to him and said, if you would want any one of those girls, let me know and I'll take care of it for you. He introduces himself and says, would you like to have one of these women? Yes. You're joking, right? No, I'm not. I think my dad's jaw hit the ground. And you solemnly swear from the testimony you give in the matter now. Now with his life in his own hands, it's Darren's turn to testify. What was his pet name for you when other people were around many times? Well, there's several. There was Dumb Prick. Dumbass Dick Bump was one of his others. There was quite a few of them. How did he refer to your mother? A faced whore. It was horrifying. And doing it over a 40 year lifespan is obviously taking its toll. Did you love your dad? Absolutely. I love my dad. How could you do that to him? I have no idea. If you were so abused by him, why did you go back and live with him time and time again? Doesn't make sense. It's like, why didn't I leave? You know, I felt like a hostage. You just fool yourself into thinking that things are going to be fine between son and dad. Why did Darren keep coming back? Why didn't he just leave the golden egg? His dad provided the money. His dad had provided all that he really wanted. You used his boat. Yes. You accepted the car he gave you. Yes. All that is the reason you kept coming back, isn't it? You know, that was unconditional love is what I kept coming back for. Eddie Schell says Darren's reasons had nothing to do with money. Why do women that are battered go back to their husbands? Why is it such a leap to believe that? Well, I just couldn't leave. He had a hold on me. It was my father. Of course he had a hard time of just leaving. As Darren steps down, this sentencing trial is about to take one final dramatic turn. Another brother, Charlie White Jr. Has decided to testify. But will he defend his brother or his father? Are you a murderer, Darren? No, I'm not a murderer. But you've killed. Yes. You've killed your own father. Yes. Hoping to spare Darren White from a life sentence, defense attorney Eddie Schell has put the victim on trial. Charlie White Sr. Was not a nice person. He is the one that made Darren White like he is. They were trying a dead man. They were trying a man that was murdered by his son. The prosecution calls Darren's oldest brother, Charlie Jr. Hoping he will undermine Darren's defense that his father drove him to kill. What was your father's demeanor towards you and your brothers? Well, if you made him mad, he would let you know it. I mean, it's hard to explain. He. I mean, I got along pretty good with him most of the time. But there were. It's important to know that there are people who were raised by Charlie White who adjusted just fine. And if Darren was hoping for brotherly support from Charlie Jr. He didn't get it. You ever seen Darren lose his temper? Yes, sir. You ever see your brother Darren drink? Yes, sir. He got a little bit more belligerent and just kind of. I don't know. It was hard to be around him when he drank very much. What's more, Charlie Jr. Says Darren could be just as perverse as his father. Tell us what your brother told you about his father's girlfriends. He just told me on a couple occasions that, you know, he had sex with my dad's girlfriends. Charlie White Jr. S testimony, has it helped your case or hurt your case? I don't think it's hurt our case at all. I think his credibility will stand up, and I think it will help us pass witness. When Eddie Shell gets his chance to cross examine Charlie Jr. He treats him with kid gloves. Do you believe that you had a pretty dysfunctional family? Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. Do you love your brother? Yes, sir. All right, I'll pass the witness. You're listening to Charlie White Jr. S testimony. What are you thinking? I'm thinking he told the truth as best he saw it. And I don't think he heard us at all. Darren White is damaged goods. In closing, Shell keeps attacking Charlie Sr. And asks the jury to show Darren you can recommend probation. And if you do that, then the controlling hand of Charlie White will not be reaching out from the grave doing one more injustice to Darren White. But for prosecutor Sam Oatman, probation for Darren isn't an option. He killed his dad. He murdered his dad. And all we have to prove is that Darren White killed his father and wanted him dead. That's all we have to prove. The jury deliberates late into the night. One hour passes, then two, then six. Which leaves attorneys guessing. You think, oh, we got a ringer. We had someone in There that might have related to this situation. Finally, at 4:30 in the morning, the jury agrees on a sentence. I think I had my eyes closed and I was praying to God to please, just please turn out okay then. Mr. White, based upon the verdict that the jury has returned in this case, you are sentenced to 20 years confinement in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice Institutional division. And I heard 20 and I'm like, no, that can't be. The jury decides. Sudden passion does not apply. And I looked at Darren and you know, Darren was just looking down and I was just sick. It was the worst moment in my life. I was surprised. I was surprised at the 20 years. I thought it would be more years in the penitentiary than that. I think that Darren White deserved more. We just held each other. And then he told me that he loved me. And I told him that I loved him. And I think I kissed him and gave him one more hug. Charlie did not deserve to die. But Darren did not deserve to be treated like that his whole life. Six months later. I've never been more at peace. I'm sorry it all happened and it is done. I'm moving on and things are going to be better. And in one final twist to this story, Darcy has made a commitment to Darren. Darren and I got married. We just fell in love all over again. There was no stopping it. People are gonna look at you and say, are you crazy? Mm, yeah. What do you say to them? I'm happy. I love him. This man killed his father. Something's not right. But for Jerome Davis, the idea of Darren experiencing any kind of happiness is an insult to the memory of. Of his good friend. He's cut and dried. He's guilty and he didn't get what he deserves. You guys behave yourselves. I felt like he should have life in prison. That's my story and I'm sticking with it. 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