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Ann Marie Green
It is a trial that is five years in the making. Larry Miliette is in court this week charged with killing his 39 year old wife Maya, who was last seen in their Chula Vista, California home on January 7, 2021. 48 hours followed Maya's family, friends and the community as they searched and and searched for her. Yet her body has still never been found. Meanwhile, prosecutors say that Larry had been paying people online to cast spells on his wife. Spells to first make her stay with him and then later to harm her. In opening statements, the prosecution said that Maya was having an affair and according to emails Larry sent to spellcasters, the affair resulted in Maya getting pregnant. The prosecution says this revelation caused a huge fight between Larry and Maya in January of 2021, right around the time she went missing. Larry Milente has pleaded not guilty. I'm 48 Hours correspondent Ann Marie Green and this is case by case and today I'm being joined by Kelly Hesedahl. She is a CBS 8 San Diego reporter. She has been following this story and was in court earlier this week. So Kelly, thank you so much for making some time for us.
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Kelly Hesedahl
Thank you for having me.
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Ann Marie Green
So let's just sort of Start kind of in the beginning. I want to talk about Maya, or May, as some people called her. What was her relationship with Larry like in the beginning?
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Kelly Hesedahl
Maya and Larry met when they were working at a fast food restaurant. Maya had actually immigrated to the United States from the Philippines with her family back in 1995, and she was just 13 years old. So they actually got married when. When they were pretty young. Maya was 19 years old, I believe Larry was 18 years old. And they fell in love, got married, waited about 10 years until they had children. They ended up having three children, two girls and one boy. And Larry had enlisted in the Navy at one point. And so they had relocated from Hawaii to San Diego, and that's where they settled in a portion of San Diego called Chula Vista. They loved their children. Larry was an attentive father. According to family and friends, Maya has always been described as very bubbly, very outgoing, someone who loved the outdoors, loved being outside. And by all accounts, they had a typical married life.
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Ann Marie Green
But clearly, things started to change. They started to unravel at some point.
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Kelly Hesedahl
The prosecution said this week in opening statements, to really understand this story, you have to go back to 2020. Uh, Maya was confiding in her friends about the struggles in their marriage. She wasn't really confiding in her family quite yet about what was going on, but she was definitely letting her friends know that there were problems. She began an affair with a coworker. According to prosecutors, during opening statements. It started out as a friendship and then turned physical.
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Ann Marie Green
Larry obviously was not doing well with this. He did not want a divorce. That was not an option for him. And he is reaching out to Maya's family. He's actually sort of. The prosecution said that he was writing sort of notes to his sister in law, trying to get her to help him keep the marriage together. But then he writes something sort of really curious in one of the notes. This is according to the prosecution. And he writes, I always say, friends help you move. Real friends help you move dead bodies. And I've kind of heard this line before, and it could be sort of humorous, but considering now what has happened, it doesn't sound so funny.
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Kelly Hesedahl
Right? And when the prosecutor said those words in court this week during opening statements, I mean, there's many reporters that are sitting in the courtroom and you could hear everybody's fingers tapping on the keyboard the moment that she said that, because I think it really struck everybody as a line that really stood out.
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Ann Marie Green
Right. In fact, one of my co workers testified that she had said Maya had Said to her, listen, if anything happens to me, it was Larry. Was there any talk of a legal separation or divorce? Were like, were they moving in that direction? I know Larry didn't want that, but I wondered if Maya had brought it up.
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Kelly Hesedahl
Well, so there was a portion of time during 2020 when she actually moved in with her brother and her sister in law for several weeks. Police found a letter in the Milite home during one of the searches there that Maya had written to Larry basically saying, you know, this is unhealthy, this is toxic. I want to be happy, and happy is not with you. She said, let me find my peace, and I cannot find it with you. But Larry, according to prosecutors, was desperate to keep her with him, to keep the marriage going.
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Ann Marie Green
Yeah, I. That note to me is about as direct as it gets. She wanted out. Well, Wednesday on the stand, my sister Mary Chris testified that Larry had called her for advice about the relationship. And this happened in 2020. And then a little over a week before Maya disappeared, Maya had opened up to her siblings about wanting a divorce.
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Kelly Hesedahl
Right. And she testified that Maya was adamant about this. And this was actually just in the days leading up to when Maya disappeared, that her family found out she was really set on this divorce and that she had said she wanted to pawn some of her luxury handbags, including a Louis vuitton purse, for $10,000 to help pay for a divorce attorney.
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Ann Marie Green
Wow, okay, that is interesting. And all of this for the prosecution, I presume, you know, points to motive. But as I understand it as well, there were some references to domestic violence in the arrest warrant.
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Kelly Hesedahl
Yeah, in the arrest warrant, there was a friend that had told investigators at one point that Larry had choked Maya to the point that she was unconscious. However, the defense has said there's no evidence at all of domestic violence between the two foreign.
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Ann Marie Green
So that brings us to the day that Maya disappears. This is January 7, 2021. This is the last time that anyone has seen Maya Kelly. Just walk us through what we know about that day.
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Kelly Hesedahl
There was a receptionist from a law office that testified about noon on that date, Maya made a call to that law office and said she wanted to get a divorce from her husband. This receptionist, Destiny Johnson, testified that Maya wanted to do the consultation virtually, but Destiny had told her, according to her testimony, we really should do this in person. But Maya was so afraid that Larry was going to find out she didn't want to. So she ended up making an appointment for a week later. And partly that was also because that weekend they were going to be celebrating her daughter's 11th birthday up in Big Bear with the entire family. And she, according to prosecutors, really did not want to ruin that for her children or for the entire family.
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Ann Marie Green
We know that her cell phone stops I guess pinging at around 1:25 in the morning, right. That night she, Maya is doing some sort of random Google searches, isn't she?
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Kelly Hesedahl
That's right. So what we know from January 7, according to prosecutors, there's surveillance video earlier in the day of her going out to get her jeep washed. The children ask if they can come with. Around 4:43 that afternoon, there's surveillance video showing her returning home. And yes, at around 8 o' clock that night there was a Google search. She Googled something about a motorcycle. According to prosecutors, there was also a message to her family. She had this group chat she was in with her family and around that same time she had messaged them talking about the sale of a trailer, buying some toys. They were planning ahead, according to prosecutors, for future trips as well as that Big Bear trip that they were going to be going on that weekend.
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Ann Marie Green
So for, for Maya, it's by and large a regular day. What about Larry?
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Kelly Hesedahl
So on January 8th, we know from security footage he backed his Lexus SUV into the driveway early that morning around 6:45 or so. And then there's also security footage of him leaving after that. As for where he went, he had told investigators, according to the prosecution, that he took his four year old son to the beach. According to the prosecution, his phone was turned off that entire time. And when asked about that by Maya's family members, he just said, you know, I kept it off for the entire day but didn't explain why.
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Ann Marie Green
So obviously her family has become increasingly concerned. I mean, so what is her family doing?
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Kelly Hesedahl
So on January 8th her brother says, I've been trying to call her, I've been messaging her, I've been texting her and she's not answering. Something is wrong. He messages or talks to Mary Chris, the older sister, according into prosecution, and says, I don't know what to do. So family went to check on her. Mary Chris drove down to San Diego to the Milite home. And she testified that Larry's demeanor was, was normal. He acted like everything was just fine. Don't worry, don't call police, don't call investigators. And that is when mary Chris dialed 91 1.
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Ann Marie Green
And so that is when Maya is officially reported missing. Right when Mary Chris makes that 911 call.
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Kelly Hesedahl
So yes, it kind of happened overnight because Mary Chris and her husband spent the night at the home, they were even out canvassing the neighborhood, like, into the early morning hours, according to her testimony, looking for her sister. And it was the next morning that they went out and even gathered some volunteers up and began looking for her.
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Ann Marie Green
So, Kelly, let us talk about what I think is one of the wildest pieces of evidence in this case. Prosecutors said that Larry was paying people online to cast spells on his wife. He wanted to be able to control her. He wanted to, you know, make her fall back in love with him.
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Kelly Hesedahl
Now, when law enforcement first came to the Miliette house, they found spell books in the house during their first visit to the home. Not only did these emails to spellcasters so that Larry wished harm on Maya, but the emails are also a window into what was going on within the relations timeline.
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Ann Marie Green
So this has already come up this week, but I. I actually want to refer back to the arrest warrant here. And these are all communications to these spellcasters online. This is some of what he was saying. Right. Please punish May and incapacitate her enough so that she can't leave the house. It's time to take the gloves off. Can you hex to have her hurt enough that she will have to depend on me and need my help? She's only nice to me when she needs me or sick. Thanks again. Maybe an acc broken bone. And then on the day that Maya disappears, he sends multiple emails to spellcasters saying, I think she wants me to snap.
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Kelly Hesedahl
It was almost like he was confiding, you know, his deepest, darkest secrets to them about what was going on in his marriage. He spent a lot of money on these spellcasters. And when we first found out about this, you know, five years ago, I mean, everybody's jaw dropped. It was something that we had just never seen before. But I will say one of the most telling things about the spellcasters, according to the prosecution, this contact he had with them. The way that it changed after Maya disappeared, prosecutors say, was very apparent. At one point, he had, according to them, at least said, said something along the lines of stop hexing May. And this was the day after she disappeared. And then the spellcaster emails all sort of diverged into start punishing Jamie Laird, the man that she had been having an affair with. And there was no mention of Maya again after that.
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Ann Marie Green
That is fascinating. So can we talk a little bit more about that?
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Kelly Hesedahl
One of the big moments of the trial this week was the prosecution speaking about one particular email that Larry sent to speech spellcasters where he revealed that the co Worker Maya was allegedly having an affair with Jamie Laird had gotten Maya pregnant.
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Ann Marie Green
Do we know if that's even true or if it was just something that Larry made up or that Larry believed to be true?
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Kelly Hesedahl
At this point, there has not been a doctor up on the witness stand. We have not seen any medical records proving that she was pregnant. I do believe at one point during some of these emails with spellcasters, he had talked about an abortion that Maya had had. But at this point in the trial, we have not seen any proof of this. This is all just through emails that Larry is sending to these spellcasters.
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Ann Marie Green
So I want to talk about something else that was discovered inside the milite home. A vial that was kind of a
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Kelly Hesedahl
moment that we had not heard about up until now. This was a new piece of evidence. So this vial was discovered, discovered inside the Miliete home. It was a small vial with a little cap on it. The prosecution says they had the contents of that vial tested, and it came back positive for the same chemical in poison, hemlock. Now, the prosecution also said that there was a Google account that was traced back to Larry and that Google searches were recovered showing that he had searched for things like flour and hemlock poisoning. What is the best poison for a fast death, those sorts of things. However, the defense has countered, basically saying this wasn't what prosecution made it seem
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Ann Marie Green
was making it out to be.
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Kelly Hesedahl
Right.
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Ann Marie Green
When investigators were first on this case and they visited the milite house, they did not consider it a crime scene. Right. They were investigating a missing person case initially.
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Kelly Hesedahl
Absolutely. And so it wasn't for weeks later that they determined that an investigation needed to begin. And at that point, I mean, this was a couple weeks after she had disappeared.
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Ann Marie Green
Well, when 48 Hours first spoke to Maya's family, this is a few years back, they were really outspoken and kind of frustrated about the police response. I know the police released a statement in April of 2021 saying that they were keeping cards close to their ch because it was an active investigation in
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Kelly Hesedahl
the fact there was no body. So I think for them, they still had the idea as well that it's possible she could potentially still be out there. But, yeah, the family was very frustrated in the beginning, and that's when they turned to the media. Mary, Chris, the sister, did numerous interviews with the media, trying to get her sister's story out there and trying to really put pressure on the police to really focus on this investigation.
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Ann Marie Green
Yeah. And I mean, police did not formally search the military house until January 23rd. It's more than two weeks after Maya disappeared. When they did, they seized two Glock handguns, a rifle and a shotgun. Additionally, In May of 2021, police served Larry with a gun violence restraining order. Per the order, Larry was to surrender his firearms to law enforcement. He did not comply. And that meant that they could then get a search warrant for the house. They seized more weapons once they got into the house. Additional unregistered firearm as well, meaning that he, Larry, was also now in possession of an illegal firearm. Gave police a little more leverage. Based on all of this information, all that was uncovered in the investigation, law enforcement decided to move forward and arrest Larry. Um, when was he arrested?
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Kelly Hesedahl
Larry was arrested in October of 2021. So obviously several months after Maya had disappeared. And the news conference that day is something I will never forget because Mary Chris stood up there in front of all of these reporters and actually it made me very emotional that day. It always gets me when I think about it now. She, her voice was shaking and she was just begging people to. To stand by her family. I mean, she said something along the lines of, I promised the children that I would bring my sister home. And so she was really appealing to all of the people out there to help them with any tips, any. Any leads, anything like that, because she said she wanted to keep that promise to the children.
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Ann Marie Green
But still, there's no body, right? These are difficult cases.
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Kelly Hesedahl
Absolutely. A no body case. A very high burden for the prosecution to prove this. And I think that's the reason why this trial is expected to last three months. I mean, there is so much evidence they are putting out there. Their opening statement alone nearly went on an entire day because they were laying out in the opening statement, piece by piece, all the people that the jury was going to hear from all of this evidence, all of these experts that are going to be testifying. So yes, it is going to be a very long trial.
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Ann Marie Green
What do we know about the defense's strategy at this point?
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Kelly Hesedahl
The defense's strategy is we don't know what happened to Maya Miliete. There's lots of things that could have happened to Maya Miliete. And they have really been steering the jury toward the man that she was having an affair with. They want to stir up that doubt in the jury's mind that it's possible somebody else could have done this. At one point, during pre trial motions, they were talking about somebody could have taken Maya, but it wasn't Larry.
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Ann Marie Green
Well, let's, let's talk about this. Let's talk about the man that she Was having an affair with.
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Kelly Hesedahl
Well, according to the defense, she had created this Instagram account, kind of like this private, anonymous Instagram account, where she was basically talking to Jamie Laird on this account and also venting her frustrations about her marriage on this account as well. But according to defense, it was a sexual relationship. There was a lot of graphic images and graphic photos shared between the two of them. The defense made it clear this wasn't like they just met up a couple of times. This was something that. That have been ongoing. So the defense also points to Jamie's wife. His wife was pregnant. And actually his alibi for where he was the day Maya disappeared is he says he was at the hospital with her because she was going into labor. And so the other thing the defense is probably going to point out during testimony is that Jamie never reached out to Maya after she disappeared. Their communication pretty much just ended on January 7th. And we learned through the prosecution this week that both Jamie and his wife are expected to take the witness stand during this trial.
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Ann Marie Green
Hmm, that is interesting. Okay, so this trial is expected to last three months. Why so long?
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Kelly Hesedahl
Well, they have a lot of circumstantial evidence to get through. They have a lot of investigators who are going to testify. They have a lot of experts that they're going to want to put up on the witness stand. We know from pretrial motions that just the cell phone data itself was kind of being questioned by the defense. And then there's a lot of family members to also get through who are all testifying. A lot of friends. One of the biggest moments this week was that Maya's father was on the witness stand. He was being questioned by prosecutors. He has a translator with him. And at one moment, he got up and had this just emotional outburst at Larry that he was crying and wailing and screaming, saying, I loved my daughter. Why did you do this? Why did you do this? And this went on for a while. One of the defense attorneys left the courtroom crying. The judge cleared everybody out of the courtroom. The defense tried to call for a mistrial, but the judge said no. The judge said to the jury, you can take into account the emotion behind what he said, but you must ignore the statements that he made. But I think that there were a lot of people that were pretty shaken by what they saw.
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Ann Marie Green
Yeah, you know, you don't want people to have outbursts in court, but this family has waited so long for answers. They still don't know where Maya is. And it's, you know, in many ways, kind of a double loss for them. Maya is gone, but Larry was part
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Kelly Hesedahl
of their family, you know, and I've talked to legal experts about this who have made some pretty sad revelations that at the end of the day, Maya's family just wants to bring her home. That is all they want. They want to know where her body is. They want to bring her home. And sadly, legal experts have said the chances that they're going to get that closure and find out exactly where she is is extremely slim. I mean, if Larry is found not guilty, obviously, then there's nothing for him to reveal to them. However, if, if he is found guilty, this would probably get tied up in the court system for a while.
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Ann Marie Green
It's quite a case, Kelly, and I know you'll be in the courtroom watching. This is a case of 48 hours has been following for years and we're certainly going to continue to follow it as the trial unfolds. Kelly, I gotta thank you so much for joining us and taking some time out of your busy day to sit down and talk. Talk with us.
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Kelly Hesedahl
Thank you for having me.
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Ann Marie Green
I'm Anne Marie Green. This is Case by case from 48 hours. We will be back next week and make sure that you let us know which case you are following in your podcast reviews and comments.
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