Kimberly Langwell's Hidden Grave

Summary

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Podcast Summary: 48 Hours – “Kimberly Langwell's Hidden Grave”

Original Release Date: April 13, 2026
Podcast: 48 Hours
Host: CBS News

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Overview

This gripping episode of 48 Hours delves into the 25-year disappearance and eventual discovery of Kimberly Langwell, a beloved Beaumont, Texas mother who vanished in July 1999. Through intimate interviews, pivotal evidence, and real-time investigative breakthroughs, the episode chronicles decades of anguish for Kim’s family, the evolution of a cold case, and the final unraveling of dark secrets buried—literally—beneath the surface. The episode highlights relentless detective work, a family’s enduring hope, and the chilling psychology behind intimate partner violence.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Disappearance and Initial Investigation

• Personal Impact

  • Kim’s daughter, Tiffany McInnis, shares the life-changing moment when her mother went missing at age 15 (01:13):

    “Everything seemed pretty perfect in life... She was my best friend.” – Tiffany McInnis (01:13)

  • Failed attempts to reach Kim and the growing dread fuel immediate panic and confusion.

• Physical Evidence

  • Kim’s car discovered in a strip mall parking lot with her briefcase and phone inside, but missing purse, wallet, and keys (06:11).
  • No witnesses, evidence of violence, or crime scene at the location.

2. Suspects and Red Herrings

• Boyfriend (Ken Weatherford)

  • Discovered Kim’s abandoned car but delayed reporting it; initially aroused suspicion (07:41).
  • Ruled out due to solid alibi with Tiffany during critical hours (16:49).

• Obsessive Coworker (Frank McCormick)

  • Sent love letters and disturbing photo collages featuring Kim’s face (08:08).
  • Despite obsessive behavior, had a corroborated alibi and was ultimately eliminated as a suspect (17:48).

• Ex-Boyfriend (Terry Rose)

  • Dated Kim for six years, relationship described as controlling and occasionally violent (14:08).
  • Provided an inconsistent alibi and failed a polygraph, but lack of physical evidence stalled the investigation (11:28, 16:00).
  • Kim’s family, particularly her aunt Esther Randall, never stopped suspecting Terry:

    “It just always ended right back at Terry.” – Esther Randall (13:44)

  • Kim reportedly confided fears of her ex to family:

    “She came to my house. My phone rang the entire time… Controlling, unbelievably controlling.” – Esther Randall (14:08)

3. Years in Limbo – Family and Investigators Persist

• Family Devastation

  • Tiffany recounts living with denial, longing, and pain (13:23, 34:50).
  • Aunt Susan’s tireless advocacy and private searches reflect the family’s unwavering determination (13:23).

• Lingering Guilt

  • Detective Esther Randall admits to being haunted by the case even after retirement:

    “I felt like I had failed.” – Detective Esther Randall (05:00)

4. Case Reopened and Breakthroughs (2023–2024)

• Reinvestigation Begins (Spring 2023)

  • Beaumont PD partners with TV’s Cold Justice and veteran searcher Tim Miller of Texas Equisearch (04:19, 27:07).
  • New investigative team scrutinizes old suspects, ultimately refocusing on Terry Rose.

• Crucial Witness Flips: David Wiley

  • In 2024, Terry’s friend David Wiley comes forward, seeking immunity. He reveals that on the night Kim vanished, he helped Terry move her car and later heard Terry confess to shooting Kim during an argument and hiding her body “under the slab in one of the bedrooms” (22:13, 22:29).

    “He [Terry] told me...he shot her... [and] put her under the slab in one of the bedrooms.” – David Wiley (22:13–22:29)

• Physical Evidence Uncovered

  • A ground-penetrating radar scan and excavation—led by Texas Equisearch—unearth cinderblocks, a void in the slab, Kim’s belongings, and ultimately, her skeletonized remains wrapped in a blanket with a clear gunshot wound to the back of the head (27:29–28:28, 34:50).

    “Once we found human bones, we knew she was there and the decision was made. It's time to get an arrest warrant.” – Detective Jesus Tamayo (30:24)

• Terry Rose Arrested

  • After a meticulously coordinated operation, Terry Rose is arrested, showing visible defeat (31:33).

    “His demeanor was different. You could see the defeat on his face. I think he knew it was over.” – Lt. Mitch Schlager (31:33)

5. Justice and Aftermath

• Courtroom Drama

  • Prosecutor Luke Nichols offers a plea deal for 40 years in exchange for a guilty plea, ending appellate options and bringing closure after decades (36:34–37:09).
  • Tiffany and her aunt Susan express mixed feelings but ultimately value finality and justice:

    “If I can walk away from this courtroom and I don't have to come back for any kind of appeals. That's a good day.” – Tiffany McInnis (37:09)

  • Wiley’s testimony details his regret for not revealing the truth sooner, expressing remorse to Kim’s family (40:52–41:00).
  • The judge sentences Terry Rose to 40 years, but acknowledges a jury might have given him life (43:31).

• Terry Rose’s Disturbing Lack of Remorse

  • In a jail call, Terry minimizes his actions and expresses shocking cruelty toward Tiffany (42:29–42:59):

    “I'm not like a psychopath, sociopath, crazy ass… I'm just—I had a bad day. I dealt with it wrong.” – Terry Rose (42:29) “People die in their 40s and 50s… That'd be sweet... I will pee in a cup. Send it to y’all to pour on her grave.” – Terry Rose (42:44)

• Final Reflections from Family

  • Tiffany’s victim impact statement carries the last word:

    “You refer to the day you murdered my mother and buried her beneath your bedroom as a bad day. That bad day cost me everything.” – Tiffany McInnis (43:58–44:29)

  • The family chooses to remember Kim for her strength and joy, not just the tragedy (44:52):

    “She deserves us talking about her and keeping her alive in that way.” – Tiffany McInnis (44:52)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Tiffany on Loss and Justice

  “I finally have her back. Not the way I want her, but he's… finally going to pay for what he did.” (34:28)

• Esther Randall’s Lifelong Commitment

  “Even after I retired, this case has haunted me because I couldn't find her. I felt like I had failed.” (05:00)

• Detective Heather Wilson on the Discovery

  “We found her completely skeletonized. She had been wrapped in a blanket… there was also a very obvious gunshot wound to the back of her head.” (35:06)

• Prosecutor Nichols Summing Up the Motive

  “Once he killed her and made the decision to put her body under his floor, it was just a sick, twisted way of maintaining physical control over her body.” (36:07)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-----------|--------------| | 01:13–02:51 | Tiffany recalls Kim’s last day and discovery of the car | | 03:28–04:11 | Challenges with the original investigation—lack of evidence, suspects | | 07:41–09:08 | Suspicions about Ken and Frank, obsessive behaviors, love letters | | 10:05–11:49 | Focus shifts to Terry Rose, his failed polygraph, lingering doubts | | 13:07–14:27 | Kim’s relationships, controlling abuse from Terry revealed | | 16:00–17:48 | The case goes cold, then reopens; reexamination of suspects | | 18:08–22:39 | David Wiley's grand jury testimony, immunity deal, Terry’s confession | | 27:07–28:28 | Discovery of the hidden grave in Terry Rose’s home | | 30:24–31:43 | Arrest operation, Terry’s demeanor, and arrest | | 36:07–37:09 | The prosecution’s theory, plea deal, and family’s reaction | | 41:03–44:29 | Court statements and victim impact, focus on Kim’s memory |

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Conclusion

“Kimberly Langwell’s Hidden Grave” is both a devastating chronicle of the harm wrought by domestic violence and a testament to the power of determined family, vigilant investigators, and modern forensics. The episode is profoundly shaped by Tiffany McInnis’s voice, whose candor lays bare the consequences of violence and the gravity of delayed justice—reminding listeners that a victim’s story continues long after the crime.

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End of Episode Summary

Transcript

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[Tiffany McInnis]

I think we have to fight hard for our loved ones and we have to listen to them and be cautious about the people that we allow into our lives. I wish so much that I would have fought harder for Mom. I'm an only child of Kim Langwell. She made me her whole world. She was my best friend. In July of 1999 I was a normal 15 year old teenager. Everything seemed pretty perfect in life.

[Detective Joe Ball]

July 9 what are your plans for that night?

[Tiffany McInnis]

We were going to go out to eat. She called me after work just to make sure that I was on track, you know, ready for dinner that night. And then I can't get ahold of her. I immediately start texting her 911. She just never called. And all I could think about was maybe there's something, you know, that she's just not telling me. And you just keep thinking she was just there, she was just on the phone. What do I do? I woke up to my phone ringing and it was Ken Weatherford, my mom's boyfriend. Hey, did your mom come home? And I said no, she's not here. And he said, well Tiffany, I didn't tell you last night I was looking for and I saw her car. I think you need to call somebody. I think something's wrong.

[Detective Joe Ball]

So Detective, where was her car?

[Detective Esther Randall]

Her car was parked right about where I'm parked now. You're looking for physical evidence. We were looking for blood, and we were looking for a body, looking for a crime scene, and we had none of that. She just disappeared.

[Tiffany McInnis]

I think for the first year, I kept it together. And then after that, it just falls apart. The person that you depend on for everything is now gone.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

In the spring of 2023, my supervisors filled me in on reopening the investigation. Our overall goal was just to get answers for the family. We definitely got the feeling that people were not being completely honest in their statements that they had provided. Back in 1999, she had a social

[Detective Esther Randall]

life and she interacted with a lot of people.

[Tiffany McInnis]

This man was writing her love letters.

[Detective Joe Ball]

There is a stack an inch and a half thick. This is a lot of love letters.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

It's a lot. Kim, I have developed this terribly strong crush on you. Something must be done about it. We're seeing obsessive behavior here. We didn't want to get tunnel vision. Do we have any named suspects in this file?

[Lt. Mitch Schlager]

You know, some cases rely on the physical evidence. There's DNA, there's a body. This doesn't exist. We cannot find Kimberly.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

We called Tim Miller. He's the founder of Texas Equisearch, and they actually specialize in looking for missing people.

[Tim Miller]

Doesn't matter when we get that phone call. We're there to help. Family help, law enforcement help. We took a chance, and it was a good choice.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

This house is where we found the most disturbing scene. Something I've never seen or heard of in my law enforcement career.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

Peter Van Sant reports. Kimberly Langwell's hidden grave.

[Detective Esther Randall]

This case, even after I retired, this case has haunted me because I couldn't find her. I felt like I had failed.

[Detective Joe Ball]

And you felt that you failed the family.

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

Yes.

[Detective Esther Randall]

And her.

[Detective Joe Ball]

It has been more than two decades since 34 year old Kim Langwell disappeared. And former Beaumont, Texas detective Joe Ball still relives those early days of the investigation over and over again. On July 10, 1999, a day after Kim Langwell failed to arrive home, Detective Ball was summoned to a strip mall parking lot in front of an Eckert pharmacy.

[Tiffany McInnis]

My mom's car is there and nobody's checked it out. We need to see what's in the car.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Kim's daughter, Tiffany McInnis, who was just 15 at the time, and Kim's sister, Susan Butts, had already arrived at the scene. When you looked through the window, what did you see in the car?

[Esther Randall]

I saw her briefcase and a phone.

[Tiffany McInnis]

No purse, no wallet, no Keys?

[Esther Randall]

No. Yeah. The purse was not in there. The car was locked.

[Detective Joe Ball]

No keys inside.

[Esther Randall]

Nothing. It just looked like somebody walked away.

[Detective Joe Ball]

This is where Kim's vehicle.

[Detective Esther Randall]

This is where Kim's vehicle was parked.

[Detective Joe Ball]

And what did that suggest to you?

[Detective Esther Randall]

It suggested to me that she either met someone here and left with them or that she had been kidnapped out of this parking lot.

[Detective Joe Ball]

But no one could recall seeing anyone get in or out of Kim's car.

[Esther Randall]

I do know that they said to me, maybe she just went off. Maybe she just had started a new life and left her child. No, she didn't. She didn't do that.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Esther Randall was like a second mom to Kim, who called her Mimi.

[Esther Randall]

I thought of her as my own. We adored her. She was easy to love. She was fun.

[Tiffany McInnis]

She was an amazing mom. She had me at a very young age, but she treated me like I was everything.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Hi, Mommy.

[Esther Randall]

Hi, Bill.

[Detective Joe Ball]

It became clear to Detective Ball that Kim would never abandon her only child.

[Detective Esther Randall]

I was pretty sure that something had happened to her.

[Detective Joe Ball]

So we focused on those who were closest to Kim, starting with Kim's boyfriend, Ken Weatherford. He was the one who discovered her abandoned car in the parking lot the evening she disappeared.

[Tiffany McInnis]

He seemed like a really nice guy. He cared about my mom. He cared about me.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Kim and Ken had met at the Mobile chemical plant where they both worked. They had been dating for just six months. Weeks before Kim disappeared, they took a trip to Cozumel, Mexico.

[Esther Randall]

She had a great time, and she had a tan, and it was fun.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Did you sense they were both in love?

[Esther Randall]

Yes. She was like, I'm happy, Mimi.

[Detective Joe Ball]

However, Detective Ball says he was suspicious of Weatherford, mostly because of what he didn't do. The night Kim disappeared, he saw her

[Detective Esther Randall]

car in the parking lot, but he did nothing. He didn't tell anybody. He waited until the next day before he told anybody that he knew where Kim's car was.

[Detective Joe Ball]

And did you think to yourself, this man may be hiding something from me?

[Detective Esther Randall]

I suspect everybody. Everybody's a suspect.

[Detective Joe Ball]

And that included co workers and former bosses like Frank McCormick. This is an ID photo taken of him decades later.

[Tiffany McInnis]

Frank McCormick was a supervisor out in Mobile, and he worked in the same building as my mom.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Tiffany says McCormick, who was married, often came around their house and left Kim presents like chocolates from Paris.

[Esther Randall]

He adored her. He talked about her big blue eyes and how sweet she was. And then it went from that to a little darker.

[Detective Joe Ball]

McCormick began sending Kim love letters. Dozens of them. He also sent disturbing photo collages. These are grainy copies that were given to 48 hours by investigators.

[Esther Randall]

Pictures of all kinds of women with Kim's face on the bodies.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Esther said that Kim was upset about McCormick's bizarre behavior, but she didn't report him for fear of retribution.

[Esther Randall]

Kim was nice to everybody, but I think he just thought because she was nice to him that she liked him.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Detectives say despite McCormick's obsessive behavior, he had an alibi. Around the time Kim disappeared, He told investigators he was at a grocery store to buy some chips for a poker game and he had the receipt of to prove it.

[Detective Esther Randall]

We looked at him, we talked to him, and we were able to rule him out as a suspect.

[Detective Joe Ball]

But authorities had someone else on their radar. Terry Rose, Kim's ex boyfriend. Kim and Terry dated and lived together for about six years. After they broke up, the two stayed in contact.

[Tiffany McInnis]

I do know that she kept a friendly relationship. He would help her do things.

[Detective Joe Ball]

In fact, the night Kim disappeared, Kim had stopped by Terry Rose's house on the way home from work.

[Tiffany McInnis]

He was doing something in the house and needed help hanging some boards, which I thought was strange.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Just two days after Kim's disappearance, Terry Rose willingly came into the police station and provided a statement. Terry said on the evening she disappeared, Kim arrived about 5, 10 or 5:15pm and was at his house for just a short time before leaving to meet Tiffany. Terry claimed he had not heard from her since.

[Detective Esther Randall]

I felt like Terry was not being completely truthful with us. It was the tone of the whole interview and how vague he was about details.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Yet Terry Rose was cooperative. He allowed police to search in and around his house.

[Detective Esther Randall]

We went into every room in that house. It was just a very junky house. There was stuff everywhere, made it very difficult to conduct a search.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Ball says there were no signs of Kim at the house and no evidence that any violence had taken place there. But he had Terry take a polygraph test and he failed.

[Detective Esther Randall]

At that point, I was pretty focused on Terry. I was pretty sure that he was lying, But I didn't have any evidence to confront him with.

[Tiffany McInnis]

If not even the authorities can do something to find my mom, who's going to help us?

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[Tiffany McInnis]

Once mom was gone for a little while, you know, you come to realize that, hey, she's not going to come back.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Tiffany McInnis endured the typical teenage growing pains under the shadow of her mother's missing person investigation.

[Tiffany McInnis]

I got to a point of just complete denial. You just don't want to look anymore. Aunt Susan did a really good job keeping it going. She did searches and stuff like that.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Like investigators, Susan says she became more and more convinced who was responsible.

[Esther Randall]

It just always ended up right back at Terry.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Esther says Kim had shared her fear of Terry Rose well before her disappearance.

[Esther Randall]

I'm afraid he's going to kill me if I leave. He's going to kill me.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Kim had described Terry's obsessive and possessive behavior during their six year relationship, says Esther, which she sometimes witnessed firsthand.

[Esther Randall]

She came to my house. My phone rang the entire time she was there. When are you coming? Are you still there? Is she still there? Controlling, controlling, unbelievably controlling.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Esther says Kim told her that at times that need for control boiled over into violence. And what are some of those things he did to her?

[Esther Randall]

Strangled her. They threw her on a bed and strangled her till she couldn't breathe anymore. And then she woke up and he was gone.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Tiffany believes her mother shielded her from witnessing any abuse, but says she did experience Terry Rose's obsession firsthand. After the relationship finally ended, he would

[Tiffany McInnis]

call the house at all times during the day, night, if mom wasn't home, he questioned me, you know, where is she at? Where has she been? When do you expect her home? We had found him lurking outside the

[Detective Joe Ball]

house, but that all stopped abruptly once Kim was gone. Was Terry concerned about your sister?

[Esther Randall]

No, not at all.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Did he help look for her?

[Esther Randall]

No, never.

[Detective Joe Ball]

In 2001, two years after Kim's disappearance, the FBI assisted by interviewing Terry Rose. He admitted to one one physical confrontation with Kim where he slapped her in the face. And he acknowledged that he had no alibi for the crucial hours from approximately 5:30pm on the day Kim went missing until he met up with a friend that evening.

[Detective Esther Randall]

He called his friend David Wiley, and they shot poole from about 9:30 until probably midnight or a little after. But after I talked to David Wiley, I was even more suspicious because I was pretty sure David Wiley was lying to me, too.

[Detective Joe Ball]

But investigators still lacked any physical evidence of an actual crime, and the case went cold. Decades passed until 2023, when the TV program Cold justice chose to investigate the unsolved case, and the Beaumont PD appointed detectives to work alongside them.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

When I got assigned the case, we set the bar pretty low.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Detective Heather Wilson became the lead investigator, working alongside Lt. Mitch Schlager and Detective Jesus Tamayo. They began by looking at all the original suspects once again, like Kim's last boyfriend, Ken Weatherford.

[Lt. Mitch Schlager]

We had already narrowed down the time frame when we believe something happened to Kim.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Weatherford declined an interview with 48 Hours. He was actually with Tiffany around the time Kim went missing, so investigators ruled him out.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

We also looked into a former boss of Kim's named Frank McCormick, that boss

[Detective Joe Ball]

who had sent Kim all those disturbing love letters and images.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

You have to ask yourself, how far was he willing to go to get her attention?

[Detective Joe Ball]

Because obsession can lead to something dangerous.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

Absolutely.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Frank McCormick declined an interview with 48 Hours, but he did speak to investigators. Detective Wilson confronted him with a stack of those letters.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

I was bringing back some memories for you.

[Lt. Mitch Schlager]

As I sit here, it's hard for

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

me to believe I wrote this.

[Lt. Mitch Schlager]

Obviously, it's my handwriting.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Regardless of what he said he remembered, McCormick still had that alibi documented by the grocery store receipt from around the time Kim disappeared.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

So ultimately, we felt like Frank was not relevant to this case.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Who became your top suspects in the disappearance of Kim?

[Detective Heather Wilson]

Our top suspect was Terry Rose. He's showing all the typical behaviors of someone who is abusive. He just couldn't let go.

[Detective Joe Ball]

But when approached more than two decades later, Terry Rose, now 66 years old, was still adamant he had nothing to do with Kim Langwell's disappearance.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

What's your theory on what happened to her? What do you think?

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

I don't really know. Once we broke it off, I figured, just leave her alone.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

And so we're trying to find his inner circle. So we wanted to find these people that were close to Terry.

[Detective Joe Ball]

One of those people was David Wiley, who Terry Rose played pool with the night Kim went missing.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

We could feel that David was the weakest link. Mr. David?

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

Yes, sir.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Detective Jesus Tamayo showed up at David Wiley's door in 2023 and interviewed him in his patrol vehicle.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

Knowing Terry like he knew Terry, did he have anything to do with Kimberly? I don't think so.

[David Wiley]

Not at all. And I just don't think he's that type of person.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Investigators were convinced Wiley wasn't telling them everything he knew. So In April of 2024, the DA convened a grand jury where Terry Rose and David Wiley would have to testify under oath. Rose stuck to his original story, but Wiley, while also consistent, seemed uneasy.

[Lt. Mitch Schlager]

He was very nervous. He seemed very uncomfortable.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

So we decided to call David Wiley and see if he would just be willing to come in and take a polygraph test. He immediately was like, you're going to need to contact my attorney, and ended the phone call. So we knew at that point that we were on to something.

[Detective Joe Ball]

That hunch was confirmed when Wiley's attorney called back.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

He does have information for y' all that's going to help you find her.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

How are you doing today? Good.

[David Wiley]

How you doing?

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

The braids.

[Detective Joe Ball]

In April 2024, more than two decades after Kim Langwell disappeared, David Wiley was ready to talk to investigators.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

This was huge. This is what we needed.

[Detective Joe Ball]

But only under one condition.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

His attorney told us he wants full immunity from any kind of prosecution. I said, okay, we kind of need to know what we're working with here.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Detectives wondered if Wiley could have been an accomplice.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

He said, no, he didn't. He's not saying that he killed her, that he just has information of what happened to her. So we're like, we can work with that.

[Detective Joe Ball]

With assurances of an immunity deal, David Wiley met with investigators at his attorney's office.

[David Wiley]

Our goal is you're here to tell the truth, okay?

[Detective Joe Ball]

Wiley told detectives that on July 9, 1999, the day Kim disappeared, he received a call around 6:15pm from his friend and former boss, Terry Rose.

[David Wiley]

He called me and asked me to pick him up at Walmart. Just said, when you get close to the parking lot, call me. I called. He was in Kim's car. When I pulled up next to him, he said that he did not like that parking lot and to follow him.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

Did you ask him, why are you in the car?

[David Wiley]

No, I did not ask.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

So y' all left Walmart and he

[David Wiley]

followed him to Colonnade, turned into the Colonnade Shopping center parking lot. He stopped in a spot, got out and got in my truck, and I took him and dropped him off at his house and went back to my little trailer I was living in.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Later that evening, Wiley said he met up with Terry to Play pool. The two then had breakfast the next morning. Wiley was foggy on the timing, but says Terry, out of the blue, told him a horrific story about what had happened to Kim.

[David Wiley]

He told me that she was at his house and I guess they argued and he shot her.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

And then after that, did he say what did he do with the body?

[David Wiley]

He told me that he put her under the slab in one of the bedrooms.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

One of the bedrooms.

[Detective Esther Randall]

And did he say which one?

[David Wiley]

No, he did not say which one.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

We couldn't quite comprehend. She's under the slab in a bedroom in his house.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Days later, David Wiley was given a polygraph test.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

Did Terry tell you he shot Ken?

[David Wiley]

Yes.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

Did Terry tell you where he buried Kim?

[David Wiley]

Yes.

[Detective Joe Ball]

And passed. But before they could arrest Terry Rose, the District Attorney's office insisted they get physical evidence that would back up Wiley's story.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

We still had a lot of work to do. We're going to be cracking the slab of this house. We're going to be looking under the floor as David described where she was. It was going to be a huge

[Detective Joe Ball]

operation, and it would take intricate and secretive planning. Detectives feared that if Terry Rose found out, David Wiley's life could be in danger. They were also concerned about the safety of Terry's common law wife, Violet.

[Lt. Mitch Schlager]

What is his mindset? If this man is really the narcissist psychopath we believe him to be, will Violet's life be in danger too?

[Detective Joe Ball]

So they devised a ruse. On June 10, 2024, Terry rose and Violet were called to the police station to discuss another case. Terry's father had been a victim of a homicide five years after Kim disappeared. After that conversation, the Langwell investigators stepped in.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

How you doing? All right. I must hear a rumble. Bass. I'm one of the guys that was working on the Kimberly Lindros case.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

I think he was truly caught off guard that he was called to the police station for one thing, and now this is happening.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

It's been signed by the judge.

[Detective Joe Ball]

As Detectives Tamayo and Wilson served Terry Rose with the search warrant, investigators were at his house ready to begin looking for Kim Langwell.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

I want you to understand what all it entails. It's going to be a thorough search of the house, possibly under the house. So if there is information that you want to tell us. Is Kimberly on the property? Is there any evidence of her murder on the property?

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

Shouldn't be, no.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

Did you murder Kim?

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

No.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

So is there any reason why we're gonna find any kind of blood or evidence or remains or anything like that anywhere? On your property, sir.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

No, I don't know what you want. We want the body. Well, I understand that. I don't have anything to tell you.

[Tiffany McInnis]

Okay.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

We just wanted to give you that opportunity.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

Is this mine or you can do it?

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[Detective Heather Wilson]

Yes, sir. I think at that point, he knew that his world was crashing down, but he couldn't stop it.

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[Detective Joe Ball]

Detectives Wilson and Tamayo then went to speak to Violet.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

We have the search warrant to look for Kimberly Manuel all through the property.

[Tiffany McInnis]

Okay.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

If there's anything that we need to know now before we begin, this is the time.

[Violet Rose]

I honestly can tell you I don't know anything about where she is or anything about that.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

She really wasn't worried about Terri, I don't think. I think that she really thought that he had nothing to do with this, and we weren't going to find whatever we were looking for.

[Violet Rose]

So y' all just do what you have to do.

[Tiffany McInnis]

Well, if I hadn't known this, I

[Detective Heather Wilson]

would have washed the dishes.

[Tiffany McInnis]

Oh, gosh.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Terry Rose and Violet were free to go, but not to their home. Police put tracking devices on Terry's vehicles so they could monitor his movements. The next day, an FBI evidence response team assisted Beaumont PD investigators at Terry's house.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

They brought in their own equipment, Ground penetrating radar. So they started that tedious process of scanning all the rooms.

[Detective Joe Ball]

By day three of the search, they scanned one of the two bedrooms in Terry Rose's house. But the next morning, the equipment had to be pulled.

[Lt. Mitch Schlager]

Now, there was a little bit of a scramble and a panic of, we need to get another GPR out here. Ground pentra and radar. But Detective Wilson had a great idea and somebody we could call on.

[Detective Joe Ball]

That somebody was Tim Miller, the founder of Texas Equisearch, an organization that specializes in finding missing people.

[Tim Miller]

You know, it doesn't matter when we get that phone call. We're. We're there to help family, help law enforcement.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Later that afternoon, Miller and his team got to work on the second bedroom.

[Tim Miller]

Literally within three or four minutes, we noticed that there's something here. There's no wire mesh. This area has been disturbed. And then I pounded on it just a couple times, lightly. And that area was hollow.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Could hear it.

[Tim Miller]

I could hear it. And it was like, she has to be here.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

Almost immediately, we start breaking the tile flooring that was in that bedroom. We started with a slush hammer, and once we made that initial break in the tile, we realized that he had stacked cinder blocks underneath the flooring. So those cinder blocks just immediately collapsed, and there was a divot. Yeah, a void. So we knew this is not normal. We knew we were in the right area.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Then Detective Tamayo made a discovery.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

I found like a keychain and a pair of sunglasses.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Not long after, they found something else.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

One of our ID technicians actually found three small, very small bones that we believe were toe bones.

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[Tiffany McInnis]

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[Detective Joe Ball]

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[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

Once we found human bones, we knew she was there and the decision was made. It's time to get an arrest warrant.

[Detective Joe Ball]

On June 13, 2024, more than two decades after Kim Langwell disappeared, undercover Beaumont police officers had their eyes on Terry Rose, tracking his every movement as they waited for an arrest warrant for murder to be signed by a judge. Mitch, you're being briefed on all this, right?

[Lt. Mitch Schlager]

Yes, I'm back at the police station.

[Detective Joe Ball]

And where is Terry?

[Lt. Mitch Schlager]

Terry is going to a local restaurant here in town to have dinner with his wife, Terry Rhodes is walking out of the restaurant, and I could hear the chatter. Is that warrant sign? We see him moving. He's paying his check. He's walking. And then I say, warrant signed. Arrest him.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

All right, I say move, boys. Feet on the ground. Hands. Hands. Let me see your hands. Hands up. Hands up. Back up. Violet. Back up.

[Tim Miller]

Terry.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

Over here.

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

Over here.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Get down on the ground.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

Get hurt.

[Detective Esther Randall]

Get hurt.

[Lt. Mitch Schlager]

His demeanor was different. It wasn't the same Terry I'd seen. You could see the defeat on his face. I think he knew it was over.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

Don't hurt me.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Terry Rose was immediately transported to the police department, where Detectives Wilson and Tamayo were waiting to question him.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

That is him right here.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

We do have an arrest warrant for you for the offense and murder. You don't want to talk?

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

Nothing to say? What can I say?

[Detective Heather Wilson]

Well, there's probably a lot to say. I mean, are you curious about what we have found or why you're here?

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

No, you got what you want.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

His true character is being revealed in that moment.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

I won't be believed. Anyway, I'm not gonna waste my breath.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

I mean, I'm interested in what you have to say. I really am. I will hear you out.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

The family, my dear.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

Do you have anything to say to Kim's family?

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

No.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Detectives then brought Terry Rose's wife, Violet, along with her brother and sister in law, into the interrogation room.

[Tiffany McInnis]

I was gonna ask the obvious question.

[Detective Joe Ball]

I was gonna say, I assume we're here because you found him. Yes.

[Violet Rose]

You found him.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

Yes, you, Honor.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

May I ask where? Under one of the bedrooms.

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[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

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[Detective Heather Wilson]

Violet. You didn't know it.

[Tiffany McInnis]

You trusted him.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Okay.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

It's okay, Violet.

[Detective Joe Ball]

It's okay.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

I understand, Violet. I understand.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You're gonna get through this. You're gonna get through this.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

Okay?

[Detective Joe Ball]

Okay. Okay.

[Violet Rose]

I'm sorry.

[Detective Esther Randall]

Don't be.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

Don't be sorry.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Oh, well, that's a shock. Do you believe that Violet knew nothing about the fact that her husband murdered this woman and buried her under the floor of the house?

[Detective Heather Wilson]

I believe that she did not know any of that. I don't think she ever speculated that he was actually involved.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Violet declined our request for an interview. Now in custody, Terry Rose headed to jail, facing a murder charge.

[Tiffany McInnis]

And we watched him walk down the stairs in handcuffs, you know, with police escorting him to the police car, and then, you know, stared him down, gave him the looks that he deserved as he, you know, had to drive right past us to go to prison.

[Detective Joe Ball]

And your eyes Were sending a message, right?

[Tiffany McInnis]

Absolutely.

[Detective Joe Ball]

And that message was, we got you.

[Tiffany McInnis]

I finally have her back. Not the way I want her, but he's. He's finally going to pay for what he did.

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[Detective Joe Ball]

Back at the Rose property, investigators continued to dig into the early morning hours to make sure they recovered all of the remains.

[Detective Heather Wilson]

So the whole excavation process took about 13 hours. So we were there through the night. We found her completely skeletonized. She had been wrapped in a blanket. So luckily, she was all there. We found Oliver. And there was also a very obvious gunshot wound to the back of her head.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Is there an emotional component for you at this moment?

[Detective Heather Wilson]

It is. It's very. It's kind of hard to describe the room, but it was very quiet. And we all knew that this was a grave site somewhere, that she had been buried and imprisoned for years. And it was a great moment knowing that we're finally getting her out of this house to bring her home to her family.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Weeks later, the results from DNA testing and dental records verified what everyone already knew, that the remains were, in fact, Kim's.

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

We were very excited about going to trial on this case.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Jefferson county prosecutor Luke Nichols was also confident.

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

They found a murder victim's body under a man's floor. So as far as proving it, it was a great case, Strong case.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Nichols was ready to share with jurors his theory of what happened to Kim Langwell the evening she was murdered.

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

Something that Kim said or did brought home to Terry Rose that he lost. That he lost her, that she was moving on with her life. She had a new boyfriend that she was getting serious with. She did not need him anymore, and that set him off. I think once he killed her and made the decision to put her body under his floor, it was just a sick, twisted way of maintaining physical control over her body. Barry Rose, you're being charged with the murder of Kimberly Langwill.

[Detective Joe Ball]

But just a week before the trial was to begin, Rose's defense attorney approached Nichols about a plea deal. Nichols offered a maximum sentence of 40 years without the ability to appeal in exchange for a guilty plea from Terry Rose.

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

With a guilty plea, he's admitting guilt for the first time since this happened. More importantly, we can't promise that a jury of 12 people is going to always get it right.

[Detective Joe Ball]

When presented with the deal, Tiffany and Susan had mixed feelings.

[Tiffany McInnis]

I wasn't happy, you know, at first. What I had to think about is the fact that we have lived and breathed this situation for 25 years, and if I can walk away from this courtroom and I don't have to come back for any kind of appeals. That's a good day.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Rose's attorney agreed to the terms. Now prosecutor Nichols would have to persuade the judge to give Terry rose the maximum 40 year sentence.

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

We had this horrible story of what he had done to this family and I thought it was important to get all that out there.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Nichols would present crucial evidence at the sentencing hearing, including testimony from his star witness, David Wiley.

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

What I told him was, this is your chance to make it as right as you can at this point. You can't go back 25 years and start telling the truth, but you can start now. State calls David Wiley.

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[Tiffany McInnis]

I'm anxious. I'm nervous to have to look at him. So a lot of nerves going in to that moment.

[Detective Joe Ball]

That moment, over a quarter of a century in the making, came in December of 2025 when Tiffany McInnis, flanked by supporters, faced her mother's killer in a courtroom.

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

The terms of the plea deal were he would get anything up to 40 years. At his age, 40 years is a life sentence. And my goal from the get go was make sure he never breathed one more breath of free air.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Prosecutor Nichols called David Wiley to the stand.

[Violet Rose]

You swear or affirm the testimony you're going to give in this hearing will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

[David Wiley]

Yes. I do.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Who recounted Terry Rose's confession to him back in 1999, didn't give you any

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

detail as to how that happened and where he shot her?

[David Wiley]

The only thing you told me was the back of the head.

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

That he shot Kim in the back of the head.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Correct.

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

Now, the police asked you about this in 1999, didn't they?

[David Wiley]

Yes, they did.

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

And did you tell them the truth about what had happened and what Terry had said?

[David Wiley]

No, I did not.

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

And so you kept your mouth shut.

[David Wiley]

Didn't he? I did.

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

You kept Terry's secret?

[David Wiley]

I did.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Wiley said he now regrets guarding that secret, which caused so much needless heartache

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

and despair 25 years after it happened. What made you come forward?

[David Wiley]

I didn't want to live it any longer. Tired of the beat on my conscience.

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

Is there something you want to say to Tiffany McGinnis and her family?

[David Wiley]

I wish I'd have came forward right when it happened.

[Detective Joe Ball]

What was it like to listen to Wiley on the stand?

[Tiffany McInnis]

Frustrating. It's frustrating that here we spent all this time trying to figure out what the hell happened, and you had an answer right in your back pocket.

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

So, Tiffany, I'm sorry you have to be here.

[Tiffany McInnis]

Me too.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Tiffany was called to testify.

[Tiffany McInnis]

And once I'm on the stand, all I can think about is, do not stare at him, because I don't know if I'll be able to talk.

[Detective Joe Ball]

She described those agonizing years not knowing where her mother was or what had happened to her.

[Tiffany McInnis]

My mom is the person that I go to for everything. So lost. Very lost.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Tiffany recalled her devastation on learning her mother's fate all those years later.

[Tiffany McInnis]

I just screamed and pulled over my car.

[Detective Joe Ball]

And then expressed her hope for Terry Rose's punishment.

[Tiffany McInnis]

I would like him sentenced to at least 40 years. I think he deserves that.

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

And you and I have spoken. There's not a number that really makes this right, is it?

[Tiffany McInnis]

No, there never will be.

[Detective Joe Ball]

The judge also heard from Terry Rose himself.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

This is a prepaid call from Terry

[Detective Joe Ball]

Rose via a recorded jail call with his son. At one point, Terry Rose callously described his frame of mind when he killed Kim Langwell.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

You know, I'm not like a psychopath, sociopath, crazy ass, you know, I'm not none of that. I'm just. I had a bad day. I dealt with it wrong. I gotta deal with it.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Then the two coldly discussed what they wished for.

[Detective Jesus Tamayo]

Tiffany, she's in her 40s. People die in their 40s and 50s all the time. That'd be sweet. Yeah, that'd be Sweet. I will pee in a cup. Send it to y' all to pour on her grave.

[Prosecutor Luke Nichols]

I will mail you a cup of my. And you can pour it on her grave. And to say that about the daughter of a woman you killed is just horrific.

[Violet Rose]

The fact on that phone call that you said you're not a psychopath. Who isn't a psychopath that kills someone that they once cared about and buries them in their house and lives on top of them for 25 years. I would think that's the definition in Webster's dictionary of a psychopath.

[Detective Joe Ball]

Now, Judge west handed down her sentence, And Tiffany's right.

[Violet Rose]

40 years isn't enough. There is a part of me that wishes I had not accepted this plea agreement and that we had gone to trial last week, because I do think a jury would have given you life for 99 years. I actually do going to sentence you to a term of 40 years in the institutional division of the Texas Department of Corrections.

[Detective Joe Ball]

And Tiffany got the final word.

[Tiffany McInnis]

Milestones that should have been shared with my mom. My 16th birthday, my 18th birthday, my high school graduation. Have all been shadowed by her absence. It wasn't until we got to my victim statement that I really stared at him. And I wanted him to hear my words because I meant every single one. You refer to the day you murdered my mother and buried her beneath your bedroom as a bad day. That bad day cost me everything.

[Detective Joe Ball]

If he's watching, do you have anything to say to Terry Rose?

[Tiffany McInnis]

I don't think I have anything left to say to him. I hope he rots in jail.

[Detective Joe Ball]

When you think about your mom now, what do you think about?

[Tiffany McInnis]

I try to remember all the good times with mom more than anything. The good memories, her humor. My mom was so strong, and she deserves us talking about her and keeping her alive in that way.

[Detective Joe Ball]

How she lived as opposed to how she died.

[Tiffany McInnis]

Absolutely. Yeah.

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