01/25/2026: Timothée Chalamet, Jamie Lee Curtis, Kate Winslet

Summary

60 Minutes Presents: A Night at the Movies

Episode Air Date: January 26, 2026
Host: Anderson Cooper
Guests: Timothée Chalamet, Jamie Lee Curtis, Kate Winslet

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Episode Overview

This special edition of 60 Minutes, “A Night at the Movies,” dives deeply into the lives, careers, and inner workings of three acclaimed actors: Timothée Chalamet, Jamie Lee Curtis, and Kate Winslet. Each is featured at a different phase in their journey, offering intimate reflections on fame, craft, resilience, and the evolving demands of Hollywood.

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Segment 1: Timothée Chalamet – Becoming Bob Dylan

Timestamps: 04:22–18:11

The Challenge of Portraying Bob Dylan

• Chalamet discusses preparing for his portrayal of Bob Dylan in A Complete Unknown. He had little prior knowledge of Dylan and faced intense pressure, with many warning him against the role.
  • “A lot of people told him not to do it. But Chalamet likes a creative challenge.” — Anderson Cooper [04:40]
  • “I'm giving it my all. ... I'm going Daniel Day Lewis on all of them.” — Timothée Chalamet [05:46]

Immersing in Dylan’s World

• Timothée spent five years immersed in Dylan’s music and persona, learning to sing, play guitar and harmonica, and absorbing Dylan’s physicality and ideology.
  • “I had such respect for the material. I knew I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I remember that I was lazy on a day where something went wrong.” — Chalamet [09:36]

Live Performances over Playback

• Chalamet opted to perform Dylan’s songs live in the film, avoiding pre-recorded tracks for authenticity:
  • “The recording equipment's too clean now. The guitars are too good. Bob Dylan was drinking two bottles of red wine a day, sometimes smoking 30 packs of cigarettes.” — Chalamet [09:57]
  • “The smoking I did. The wine, I held back on.” — Chalamet [10:08]

On Dylan, Process, and Magic

• Chalamet resists dissecting his acting process, keeping the “magic” ambiguous.
  • "It's nobody's business how I go about these things. ... Otherwise it might not be as interesting as people think. Or it could be a lot more interesting than people think." — Chalamet [12:12]

Relating to Dylan's Journey

• As Chalamet rose to stardom young, he finds parallels between himself and Dylan’s early New York years.
• He also relates to Dylan's perspective on destiny:
  • “It’s a feeling you have that you know something about yourself nobody else does. The picture you have in your mind of what you’re about will come true.” — (Bob Dylan, quoted by Anderson Cooper, [16:48])

Not Meeting Bob Dylan

• “You still haven’t met Bob Dylan?” — Anderson Cooper [17:21]
  • "Nope. No... He doesn't seem like he wants to be bothered by ... everyone the last 60, 70 years." — Chalamet [17:23]
  • “Maybe I would try to out Bob him. ... Just, like, strangely not bring anything up.” — Chalamet [17:48]

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Segment 2: Jamie Lee Curtis – Embracing Imperfection and Longevity

Timestamps: 19:16–32:13

Hollywood Pedigree and Career Beginnings

• Born to screen legends Tony Curtis and Janet Leigh, Curtis insists her path wasn’t preordained or easy.
  • “My teeth were the color of concrete, they were gray. I was cute but not pretty. And so I never saw that coming.” — Jamie Lee Curtis [19:50]
• Broke out with Halloween—a low-budget horror film that became a cult classic, but didn’t guarantee further success.
  • “This was a $300,000 horror movie. This was not a job that a lot of people wanted.” — Curtis [21:14]

Navigating Hollywood's Pressures

• Recounts being judged harshly on her appearance and subsequently regretting early plastic surgery.
  • “I ended up having some plastic surgery. ... And I regretted it immediately and have kind of sort of regretted it since.” — Curtis [24:34]
• Curtis became dependent on painkillers after surgery, but has been sober 26 years.
  • “I became very enamored with the warm bath of an opiate. ... I was very quiet, very private about it. But it became a dependency for sure.” — Curtis [25:12]
• Became a public advocate for body positivity and sobriety.

Family and Work-Life Balance

• Famously married to Christopher Guest; prioritizes family, often choosing endorsement work to spend time with her children.
  • “For the most part, because they allowed me to stay home with my kids. ... I am an imperfect, you know, working mom, because no, working moms are perfect.” — Curtis [26:29]

Later Career Resurgence

• In her 60s, Curtis experienced a creative resurgence, winning acclaim for The Bear, The Last Showgirl, and especially Everything Everywhere All at Once (which garnered her an Oscar).
  • “I've waited my whole life for Donna. Patiently, quietly cooking my own creative mental life, my own, you know, my own alcoholism.” — Curtis [29:27]
• On her Oscar win, feelings of personal and professional triumph over previous generations’ restrictions:
  • “My mother was restricted by what the industry wanted from her and expected from her ... I have freedom.” — Curtis [31:13]
• Emphasis on embracing imperfection:
  • “Curtis hasn’t just embraced imperfection. She’s made it an art.” — Narrator [32:13]

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Segment 3: Kate Winslet – Playing Lee Miller and Personal Resilience

Timestamps: 33:33–46:38

Career Retrospective and Approach to Characters

• Winslet reflects on imposter syndrome despite a decorated career:
  • “When I was doing Lee, I would sit there and I would say, this is ridiculous. I can truly think of at least five other brilliant actresses who would have played this part much better than me.” — Kate Winslet [34:48]
• Her first outing as a producer, Lee, showcases war photographer Lee Miller’s life, focusing on her transformation from model to front-line photojournalist.
  • “It needed to feel like an extension of my arms. I had to be confident and comfortable with it.” — Winslet on learning Miller's craft [37:52]
• Faced industry skepticism and sexism in getting the film made, then insisted on a female creative team.

Dedication to Authenticity and Voice

• Spends years preparing for roles, inventing backstories, learning skills, and refusing to shy from physical or emotional exposure on screen.
  • “People say, oh, you were so brave for this role. ... Do we say to the men, 'you were so brave for this role. You grew a beard?' No, we don't.” — Winslet [44:50]

Roots, Resilience, and Defiance

• Grew up in a modest home; a drama teacher once said she’d have to “settle for the fat girl parts.”
  • “It made me think, I'll just show you. Just quietly. It was like a sort of a quiet determination, really.” — Winslet [40:53]
• Starred in Titanic at age 20, which brought both global fame and intense media scrutiny, especially about her body.
  • “I let them have it. I said, I hope this haunts you.” — Winslet on confronting media harassers [44:08]

Life and Lessons Now

• Chooses privacy and a low-key life in the English countryside; avoids social media and doesn’t read reviews.
• Her commitment to films about women’s stories is showing results:
  • “It's hard to make films about historical female figures... Says she, sitting here proudly telling you that her film has taken over 25 million so far.” — Winslet [46:10]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “I'm going Daniel Day Lewis on all of them.” — Timothée Chalamet [05:46]
• “I've never approached a character so intensely as Bob because I had such respect for the material.” — Chalamet [09:36]
• “My teeth were the color of concrete, they were gray. ... I never thought I'd be an actor in my life.” — Jamie Lee Curtis [19:50]
• “I have freedom.” — Jamie Lee Curtis [31:13]
• “It made me think, I'll just show you. Just quietly. It was like a sort of a quiet determination, really.” — Kate Winslet [40:53]
• On being called “brave” for not wearing makeup: “Do we say to the men, 'you were so brave for this role. You grew a beard?' No, we don't.” — Winslet [44:50]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [04:22] – Start of Timothée Chalamet / Bob Dylan segment
• [19:16] – Start of Jamie Lee Curtis segment
• [33:33] – Start of Kate Winslet segment
• [46:38] – Close of main content

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Episode Tone and Style

The episode balances the candid vulnerability of its subjects with humor, warmth, and unfiltered conversation. The guests embrace imperfection, share moments of self-doubt, and offer practical wisdom about resilience and creative authenticity in an industry wary of both. The discussions are intimate, at times playful, but always grounded in the unique voices and personalities of each actor.

Transcript

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[Anderson Cooper]

Tonight on this special edition of 60 Minutes presents A Night at the Movies.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Once upon a time you're just so fine through the bum's a dime in your prime.

[Anderson Cooper]

Timothee Chalamet pre recorded all the Dylan songs he'd sing in the movie. They were supposed to be played back on set during filming, but it always sounded too clean.

[Timothée Chalamet]

The recording equipment's too clean now. The guitars are too good. Bob Dylan was drinking two bottles of red wine in a day, sometimes smoking 30 packs of cigarettes.

[Anderson Cooper]

Did you drink two bottles of wine and smoke 30 packs of Amalanche?

[Timothée Chalamet]

The smoking I did. The wine I held back on.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

More.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Annie Four decades after she cemented her place in Hollywood with the horror movie Halloween, Jamie Lee Curtis is savoring a new wave of award winning performances, playing a string of raw, volatile characters that suck the oxygen out of the room. Donna the images in my mind of her buttering the bread with the nails and the eyelash on the cheek.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

The eyelash. That single eyelash I think won me and Emmy. I swear to God. Go, go sit.

[Narrator/Announcer]

When we met Kate Winslet outside London.

[Kate Winslet]

Okay, we're getting some of that.

[Narrator/Announcer]

We found the actress to be remarkably Unhollywood.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Thank you.

[Narrator/Announcer]

And capable of sounding remarkably, well, un British.

She's probably lying at the bottom of.

[Kate Winslet]

The Delaware river right now.

[Narrator/Announcer]

And why is the filly so hard?

[Kate Winslet]

It's actually the I sound in the Philadelphia in the Delco dialect that is really difficult. They don't say that's nice. They say that's nice.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

I like your B.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Mom, dad.

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[Anderson Cooper]

Good evening, I'm Anderson Cooper. Welcome to 60 Minutes Presents. Tonight, A Night at the Movies, featuring three acclaimed actors, each at a different point in their career. We'll spend some time with Jamie Lee Curtis, who's been making movies for more than four decades and has recently enjoyed a wave of award winning performances. Then we'll travel to England to meet with Kate Winslet, who starred in and produced Lee, a movie about a photographer on the front lines during World War II. But we begin with Timothee Chalamet, who earned his third Oscar nomination this past week, this one for his role in the film Marty Supreme. But it was his portrayal of Bob Dylan in A Complete Unknown that caught our attention last February. Bob Dylan is not just a singing and songwriting legend. He's one of the most enigmatic and reclusive musicians of our time. Playing him in A movie based on his life would be a daunting task for any actor. But when Timothee Chalamet was offered the role, he was 23 and says he knew practically nothing about Dylan. A lot of people told him not to do it. But Chalamet likes a creative challenge. He says he's never met Bob Dylan, but because of the pandemic strikes in Hollywood and other film commitments, Chalamet ended up having about five years to study the man and his music. Determined like Bob Dylan was at his age to make it great.

[Timothée Chalamet]

I give 170% in everything I'm doing. No, but there I'm giving it my all. Something like the Dillon Project. These aren't watered down experiences. I'm going Daniel Day Lewis on all of them. I'm not saying in process, but I'm saying in level of commitment. And I don't know, man, it sounds like I'm desperate saying that or something. But no, it sounds like you're professional.

[Anderson Cooper]

And you want it to be the best it can possibly be.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Yeah, and increasingly, I don't want to shy away from saying that. Stumble on the side of 12 Misty.

[Anderson Cooper]

Mountains Chalamet, who's 30 now, didn't just need to figure out how to sing like Dylan. He also learned how to play harmonica and guitar. And about 40 Bob Dylan songs, far more than were originally called for in the script.

[Timothée Chalamet]

It's a hot rain gonna fall.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Thank you.

[Anderson Cooper]

The movie, set in the early 1960s, follows Bob Dylan's rapid rise from obscurity to stardom, something Timothee Chalamet could relate to.

[Timothée Chalamet]

I was young when I left home I've been out of Ramblin around.

[Anderson Cooper]

Dylan was 19 when he arrived in New York from Minnesota. A complete unknown, he quickly became an icon in the world of folk music.

[Timothée Chalamet]

How many roads must a man walk down before you call him a man?

[Anderson Cooper]

Poetic and political, his song spoke to the times and a young generation demanding change.

[Timothée Chalamet]

And the first one, now a little bit less for the times they are exchanging.

[Anderson Cooper]

Dylan got his start in New York at a nightclub called Cafe Wa in Greenwich Village.

[Timothée Chalamet]

This was one of his jump points. This was really a place where you could just go play folk music in the 60s, early 60s. And I went during the movie, during the production, and it ain't the same. What were they playing now it's Aerosmith covers and the acdc. Also worthy art, but different, very different.

[Anderson Cooper]

When Chalamet started researching Dylan, he did what many millennials likely would. He looked him up on YouTube. He found this clip Particularly insightful Dylan performing on stage with Joan Baez, with whom he'd had a romantic relationship.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

But it ain't maybe.

[Timothée Chalamet]

No, now, now. It ain't maybe. What I love about the It Ain't me performance is how playful it is and what a laugh he's having. He was the one, at least in the footnotes of history, that wasn't particularly, say, faithful with Joan. So I get it from his perspective that he's having such a laugh. On YouTube now, you can play things at 0.5 speed or 0.75 speed. And that was when I really slowed down because it's fascinating the way Bob observes her and how he refuses eye contact in that video.

[Anderson Cooper]

This is Chalamet's version with Monica Barbaro playing Joan Baez.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Oh, it ain't me.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Deep.

[Timothée Chalamet]

No, no, no, it ain' babe. It ain't me. You're looking far, babe.

[Anderson Cooper]

You weren't trying to imitate me?

[Timothée Chalamet]

No, totally. That was the tension for me in doing a biopic on somebody so beloved and so well known was all right. Where does my heart and where does my soul fit into this? Can it fit into this? Particularly with someone who is so masked. I put myself in another place, but I'm a stranger there to connect with.

[Anderson Cooper]

What might be behind Dylan's mask. Chalamet, disconnected from his own life for the two and a half months of filming, wouldn't use his cell phone or have visitors on set.

[Timothée Chalamet]

I've never approached a character so intensely as Bob because I had such respect for the material. And I knew I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I remember that I was lazy. On a day where something went wrong.

[Anderson Cooper]

Chalamet pre recorded all the Dylan songs he'd sing in the movie. They were supposed to be played back on set during filming, but it always sounded too clean.

[Timothée Chalamet]

The recording equipment's too clean now. The guitars are too good. Bob Dylan was drinking two bottles of red wine a day, sometimes smoking 30 packs of cigarettes.

[Anderson Cooper]

Did you drink two bottles of wine and smoke 30 packs?

[Timothée Chalamet]

The smoking I did. The wine, I held back on more.

[Anderson Cooper]

So Chalamet decided he wanted to try and sing and play live instead. This scene was the first time he did it. Dylan's just arrived in New York and visits his terminally ill hero, folk music legend Woody Guthrie, played by Scoot McNary. Edward Norden is Pete Seeger on his first take. Director James Mangold knew Chalamet nailed it.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Hey, hey, Woody. Got three. I wrote you a song.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

There's a moment in that Scene right at the last stanza, where he holds.

[Timothée Chalamet]

A note, hairs to the hearts and the hands of the men, it comes.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

That would never have happened if we'd used the playback track.

[Anderson Cooper]

Was that in the song originally? Because, I mean, there was.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

No.

[Timothée Chalamet]

With the dust and her gone with the wind.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

He just did it. What I see Timmy executing in the scene is the growth of confidence within the song. So by the end of the song, not only is he finishing it, looking right at Woody, but he's also holding it, which is like what a grand diva would do in the spotlight. You can't tell someone to do that. I'm not even sure Timmy completely plans it intellectually. That is. That is that kind of talent.

[Anderson Cooper]

Did you know you were gonna do that? Was that a planned thing?

[Timothée Chalamet]

No, no. And it would be disingenuous to my, you know, the way I like to act or my approach to stuff.

[Anderson Cooper]

You don't have any clue why you did it?

[Timothée Chalamet]

No, I think it just happened. Yeah. Truly. Come on, give it to me.

[Anderson Cooper]

That may be true or it may not. Like Dylan, Chalamet is reluctant to talk about how he does what he does. If there's magic in acting, Timothee Chalamet doesn't want to give it all away. What's the concern about revealing the magic?

[Timothée Chalamet]

It's nobody's business how I go about these things. It's within the law. And it's within the law. Yeah. And otherwise it might not be as interesting as people think. Or it could be a lot more interesting than people think. It might be more interesting than what I'm doing. She's our friend.

[Kate Winslet]

I'm her friend.

[Anderson Cooper]

What Chalamet's done in nearly two dozen films has been plenty interesting. In the Dune series, he transformed himself from the privileged son of a duke into a menacing messiah.

[Narrator/Announcer]

I am Paul Muadib Atreides, Duke of Arrakis.

[Timothée Chalamet]

It's no use, Joe. Joe, we've gotta have it out. I have loved you ever since I've known you, Joe.

[Anderson Cooper]

He's played Laurie in Little Women and a love struck teenager in Call Me by youy Name.

[Kate Winslet]

Ah.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Where'd you learn to do that? I got nothing to offer but my chocolate.

[Anderson Cooper]

He took a risk reinventing Willy Wonka.

[Timothée Chalamet]

This is your home. A world of your own.

[Anderson Cooper]

And has shape shifted between an adult drug addict and a reluctant king, Henry V. So you basically grew up in the theater district? Yes.

[Timothée Chalamet]

This is.

[Anderson Cooper]

As a child. Chalamet didn't dream of becoming an actor, though he was surrounded by them. He lived in this Rent subsidized apartment complex in Manhattan full of artists.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Oh, Izzy, how you doing?

[Narrator/Announcer]

How you doing here?

[Timothée Chalamet]

What's going on? Doing a little interview, baby. Good to see you.

[Anderson Cooper]

Growing up in this building certainly seems to have made an impression.

[Timothée Chalamet]

This building truthfully made me scared of acting because it's a tough lifestyle, and a lot of people, you know, aren't doing.

[Anderson Cooper]

It's a hard way. It's a hard way to make it.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Fantastically.

[Anderson Cooper]

You would think growing up here, like, it would encourage you to be an.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Actor, but it actually terrified me of becoming an actor.

[Anderson Cooper]

His mom, Nicole Flender, was a dancer and works with the Actors Equity Association. His sister, Pauline Chalamet, is an actress. And Timmy, as his friends and family call him, booked occasional acting jobs as a child, though he told us he really wanted to be a professional soccer player. This is him on Law and Order when he was 12.

[Kate Winslet]

Could you please not tell mom and.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Dad about us playing Xbox?

[Anderson Cooper]

But his father, Marc Chalamet, a French journalist, wasn't exactly pushing him to act.

[Timothée Chalamet]

My dad, I think he very, very, very correctly, rightfully was wary growing up. It's no place for a child. It really isn't. You know, cameras and people going, hey, do the thing where we recognize you as cute in your own head. I think my dad was more just, like, be normal.

[Anderson Cooper]

These days, that's easier said than done.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Huge Bob Zillow fan.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

That was amazing.

[Timothée Chalamet]

I appreciate it, man.

[Anderson Cooper]

When we went to get a slice of pizza, he told us a turning point in his life was getting into LaGuardia High School, a famously competitive public school for the performing arts.

[Timothée Chalamet]

It's a school that champions the arts. So there I doubled down. I was not a distracted kid. As a teenager, like, maybe to a fault, you know, I wasn't, like, partying or. I don't say that. Come off straight, Lace. Like, to a fault. I was, like, very focused and driven.

[Anderson Cooper]

He was cast as the lead in school musicals.

[Timothée Chalamet]

I'm the bravest individual I have ever met.

[Anderson Cooper]

And developed routines for LaGuardia's talent show as a rapper named Lil Timmy. Timmy.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Timmy, Tim Chop. It's humiliating, but I'll show you guys.

[Anderson Cooper]

He took us to the practice room in his building's basement where he'd rehearse. How old were you there?

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Here?

[Timothée Chalamet]

I'm 15, but I look like I'm 7. These are two good friends of mine, Shiree and Desiree. They're the only people in the world that did this talent show act with me. I probably asked 35 people.

[Anderson Cooper]

He did go to college, Columbia University for a year, and then some classes at New York University. But he dropped out, wanting to focus on acting full time.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Listen, man, I was. I was struggling. I was struggling. I was struggling with identity, and I was struggling with your sense of self respect, your sense of drive, or where you want to be pales in comparison to where you are.

[Anderson Cooper]

Call Me by youy Name changed everything. He was 21 when it came out. Around the same age Bob Dylan was when his career started to take off. Chalamet became the youngest person nominated for an Academy Award for Best actor in nearly 80 years. This is from. We thought he'd relate to something Bob Dylan said about the meaning of destiny to Ed Bradley in a Rare interview on 60 Minutes more than 20 years ago. It's a feeling you have that you know something about yourself nobody else does. The picture you have in your mind of what you're about will come true.

[Narrator/Announcer]

That's kind of a thing you kind.

[Anderson Cooper]

Of have to keep to your own self because it's a fragile feeling.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

And you put it out there, somebody will kill it.

[Anderson Cooper]

So it's best to keep that all inside.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Man.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Wow.

[Anderson Cooper]

You watched this interview a lot?

[Timothée Chalamet]

Yeah, probably a thousand times. Yeah. I always loved what he said about self, destiny being fragile.

[Anderson Cooper]

You believe that, too, that if I.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Believe that, especially early on in life, in your career, when you're in your early 20s or late teens, and if you can find a way to keep it quiet, but also have a lot of confidence, it's the best path. You know, it's interesting to me that.

[Anderson Cooper]

You still haven't met Bob Dylan.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Nope. No.

[Anderson Cooper]

Is that weird to you?

[Timothée Chalamet]

I mean, it's not. You know, he doesn't seem like he wants to be bothered by. Not me, but by everyone the last 60, 70 years.

[Anderson Cooper]

What would you say to him?

[Timothée Chalamet]

I would say thank you. I would just say thank you. You know what?

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

That's.

[Timothée Chalamet]

I'm gonna take that back. I wouldn't, you know, honestly, I would honestly just feel like I would play it super cool, you know? Cause I feel like he's probably used to so much hyperbole.

[Anderson Cooper]

Right.

[Timothée Chalamet]

So. And praise.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Right.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Maybe I would try to out out cool him. Out Bob him. Not cool, but out Bob. Out Bob him. Yeah. Just, like, strangely not bring anything up around.

[Anderson Cooper]

Not even mention that you did.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Yeah.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Maybe just talk about, like, the weather. The weather. And, you know, what his favorite sandwich is or something like that. Yeah.

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[Anderson Cooper]

In Hollywood, it's not unusual for actors to try and fit the industry standard of beauty and marketability, plotting every outfit and career move with the prowess of a chess master. But Jamie Lee Curtis is not one of them. Candid and spontaneous, she fearlessly calls it as she sees it, even when it comes to herself. And as Sharon Alfonsi first reported last year, at 67 years old, Curtis is savoring a new wave of award winning performances. We asked her about her decades long career. She told us it was anything but planned.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

My life hinged on a couple seconds I never saw coming. I never thought I'd be an actor in my life. My teeth were the color of concrete, they were gray. I was cute but not pretty. And so I never saw that coming.

[Narrator/Announcer]

She probably should have. Jamie Lee Curtis was born into Hollywood royalty, the daughter of screen idols Tony Curtis and Janet Leigh, two of the biggest stars during the golden age of cinema. But Jamie Lee says she wanted to be a cop. She was home from college when a friend convinced her to audition for Universal Studios.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

I did the scene and she said that was very good or whatever and I was like okay, great, thanks. I said listen, if this is going to work out, I need to know because I'm going back to college in like two days.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Very practical.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

So like she laughed or whatever and they called me the next day and they gave me a seven year contract at Universal and I quit college almost immediately.

[Narrator/Announcer]

She booked the 1978 horror film Halloween.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

While I'm here tonight, I'm not about to let anything happen to you.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Curtis was cast as the bookish babysitter Laurie Strode, terrorized by an unrelenting killer. It was her first movie. She was 19 years old playing the lead. Were people saying, oh, she got the job because of who her parents are, because of the pedigree?

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

I know. I guarantee you the fact that my mother was in Psycho was a determining factor that maybe that will get them a little extra publicity. Now, did it get me to that final two? No, my auditions got me to the final two. This was a $300,000 horror movie. This was not a job that a lot of people wanted.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Halloween ended up grossing more than $70 million and became a cult classic. But it didn't exactly launch Jamie Lee Curtis career.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

My big break after Halloween was I was on Love Boat with Janet Leigh, beautiful Janet Leigh playing my mother. And then I was in a Charlie's Angels episode where I am Cheryl Ladd's best friend, pro golfer. So those are the two jobs I get post Halloween.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Were you thinking at this point, like, people aren't hiring me, they just want my mom around or the name? You know what? Sure, but didn't that bother you?

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

No, because. Because I was doing my thing.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Curtis thing was transforming into a scream queen for a new generation with a string of horror movies. I read that you didn't even like scary movies.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

I don't like scary movies.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Still.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Still? Oh, please. Awful.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Why awful?

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

The smart aleck answer is, because life is scary.

[Narrator/Announcer]

It's a surprising thing to hear from an actress who's known for being fearless. Before that spin around the bedpost opposite Arnold Schwarzenegger in True Lies, Curtis held her own next to Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd in her first comedy feature, Trading Places, directed by John Landis. She says her role as Ophelia was a wise, kind hearted streetwalker is what really launched her career. That part. I mean, she's gritty and the gum and the whole thing. How much of that did you bring to her?

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

John stuck gum in my mouth every day, literally. I would stand there and he'd walk up. I go, okay. I mean, it's, you know, it's just a great part. But here's the other thing, and this is crucial, and this will make the piece. If I'm not in Trading Places, John Cleese does not write A Fish Called Wanda for me. I'll treasure it. If I'm not in A Fish Called Wanda, Jim Cameron does not write the part In True Lies for me. And that grouping of films gave me my career for sure.

[Narrator/Announcer]

If it all sounds like a fairy tale, it wasn't. By the mid-80s, Jamie Lee Curtis was a well established actor when she made a movie with John Travolta called Perfect, by all accounts, and from every angle she was.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

I took it very seriously as an actor. And of course, I look really good in a leotard. And believe me, I've seen enough pictures of me in that leotard where even I go, like, really? Come on.

[Narrator/Announcer]

But she says a cinematographer working on the film criticized the way she looked.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

And was like, yeah, I'm not shooting her today. Her eyes are baggy. And I was 20.

[Kate Winslet]

I don't think so.

[Timothée Chalamet]

5.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

So for him to say that was very embarrassing. So as soon as the movie finished, I ended up having some plastic surgery.

[Narrator/Announcer]

How did that go?

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Not well. That's just not what you want to do when you're 25 or 26. And I regretted it immediately and have kind of sort of regretted it since.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Even now.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Way so now, because I've become a really public advocate to say to women, you're gorgeous and you're perfect the way you are. So, oh, yeah, it was not a good thing for me to do.

[Narrator/Announcer]

That's when you started taking public about this. You started taking painkillers.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Well, they give them to you. I became very enamored with the warm bath of an opiate. Drank a little bit, never to excess. Never any big public demonstrations. I was very quiet, very private about it. But it became a dependency for sure.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Curtis says she's been sober for 26 years. Did you worry when you shared your story of how you got sober that it would impact your career?

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

I think I worried more that selling yogurt that makes you was gonna impact my career than for me to acknowledge that I had an addiction. I make the joke. It's a funny joke, but it's true. Take the Activia Challenge. Now it works or it's free.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Ah, that yogurt commercial famously parodied by Saturday Night Live.

[Kate Winslet]

Now the good news.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

I just discovered.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Curtis, one of the biggest stars in Hollywood, suddenly began selling pantyhose and hawking rental cars.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Hurts came out on top.

[Narrator/Announcer]

True lies had made $400 million. You could have done anything you wanted to do, but you were taking those spokesperson jobs.

[Anderson Cooper]

Why?

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

For the most part, because they allowed me to stay home with my kids. So I am. I am an imperfect, you know, working mom, because no, working moms are perfect.

[Narrator/Announcer]

It's all Scotch taped together.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

I'm looking at one. You're speaking to one. We make it look good. We think we've done it, but the truth is we feel badly. But I know how much time away from them I spent in pursuit of my own creativity.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Curtis has two children with Christopher Guest, the actor and director best known for this is Spinal Tap.

[Anderson Cooper]

It's famous for its sustain. I mean, you can just hold it. Well, I mean, so you don't have to.

[Narrator/Announcer]

And taking aim at dog shows and even filmmaking in a series of mockumentaries. They've been married for more than 40 years.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

My mother was married four times. My father was married five times. That's nine. My stepfather was married three. So I come from an immediate family of 12 marriages. So my joke, I'm still married to my first husband. You know, it was important to me that I stay married to my husband, that he's my husband.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Do you ever pass a role that you wish you had taken?

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

No, I've taken.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Once their kids were grown, Curtis traded in carpool duty for unapologetically driving her own career.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

We're going this way.

[Narrator/Announcer]

She runs her own production company, which has a TV series in the works starring Nicole Kidman and a feature film about the catastrophic paradise wildfires in 2018. She's also running her own charity. Curtis has raised over a million dollars for Children's Hospital Los Angeles and donated another million to victims of the recent wildfires, which destroyed much of Altadena and the Pacific Palisades, including this home where she filmed the millennial hit Freaky Friday and its sequel, Freakier Friday. And four decades after the first Halloween, she finally put that franchise to rest. But it is a string of raw, vulnerable characters that came to curtis in her 60s that led to a comeback even she never imagined.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

You know, I mean, he's cute. Ish.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Playing the aging waitress in the last Showgirl.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

I could also get you a job.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Or sucking the oxygen out of the kitchen as the combustible matriarch Donna Brasado in Hulu's TV series the Bear. Donna. The images in my mind of her buttering the bread with the nails. And the eyelash on the cheek.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

The eyelash. That single eyelash, I think, won me an Emmy. I swear to God. Go.

[Narrator/Announcer]

I'm good.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Go. Go. Sit. I've waited my whole life for Donna. Patiently, quietly cooking my own creative mental life, my own, you know, my own alcoholism.

[Narrator/Announcer]

And.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

It'S just so beautifully written that you don't have to do anything.

[Narrator/Announcer]

But it was 2022's mystical, somewhat mind bending. Everything everywhere, all at once. That pushed Jamie Lee Curtis out of her comfort zone. Did you understand that role when you got it?

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Not one second of it. Did I understand that script? No. With nothing but a stack of receipts.

[Narrator/Announcer]

I can trace the ups and downs.

Curtis says she did understand. Deirdre Bo Beirdra, the hard boiled bureaucrat from hell.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

It does not look good. We all know Deirdre. She's a woman who's not loved. She's a woman who uses her power in her job to control people because she has no love in her life.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Curtis was unrecognizable. But her performance did not go unnoticed.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Jamie Lee Curtis.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Before the moment, though. First, when they call your name. Yes, you say I, I think.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Shut up. Totally. Because that wasn't supposed to happen.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Your mom never won an Oscar. Dad never won an Oscar.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

No, they didn't. They were both nominated.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Does this make you feel like you're on even footing with your parents? Who were these gigantic stars?

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

I think about surpassing my parents, which I have emotionally. I've surpassed my parents with sobriety. My mother was restricted by what the industry wanted from her and expected from her and would allow from her. My mother would have hated the Last showgirl because I showed what I really looked like. And so I have, I don't want to say surpassed the. But I, I have freedom.

[Narrator/Announcer]

The morning after her Oscar win, a photographer asked Curtis to recreate a photo of actress Faye Dunaway and her statue from nearly 50 years ago. She agreed with one condition.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

And I said to him, yeah, but I won't do it. Seriously, we have to make it funny.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Jamie Lee Curtis hasn't just embraced imperfection. She's made it an art.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

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[Jamie Lee Curtis]

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[Anderson Cooper]

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[Narrator/Announcer]

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[Anderson Cooper]

Kate Winslet was just 20 years old when she was plucked from relative obscurity to star in Titanic. She's had her pick of lead roles ever since. Film critics we spoke to compare her to greats like Katharine Hepburn and Meryl Streep. Winslet has a propensity for playing tough, angst ridden women. And that's exactly who she became in the film Lee, which she also produced about American photographer Lee Miller. One of the few female journalists on the front lines of World War II, Cecilia Bega met Winslet back in 2024 and at the theater where she performed as a teenager and found her to be remarkably unhollywood. She drove herself to the interview, showed up alone and dropped a few F bombs.

[Kate Winslet]

Well, the idea of going back on this stage still terrifies me.

[Narrator/Announcer]

So how do you get over the nerves? What do you tell yourself?

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, honestly, it's a whole bunch of mind. I mean, it is even to this day, like anything going for a job interview, I absolutely terrifying. If it's a job you really want, doubly terrifying.

[Narrator/Announcer]

You said on the first day you walk in and think everyone is in here thinking, why did they cast her?

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Oh my God, you are an Oscar winning actress.

[Kate Winslet]

So what? When I was doing Leigh, I would sit there and I would say, this is ridiculous. I can truly think of at least five other brilliant actresses who would have played this part much better than me. Like a lot better. And often I will turn to another crew member and I'll say they just read the wrong name off the list. I'm telling you, they didn't mean for me to be here. And I will have days.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Meryl's coming out of the back door now to take your role.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Welcome.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Come on in.

[Kate Winslet]

Delighted to have you.

[Timothée Chalamet]

You must be Lee Miller.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Well, it's a war zone, Colonel.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Just Lee is fine.

[Narrator/Announcer]

That role that caused Kate Winslet so much angst was for the movie Lee. She didn't just star in it, she made it her first as a producer. How much time did you spend at this house?

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, my God. I mean, a lot of time across seven years. Yeah.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Those years were spent at Lee Miller's estate. In the English countryside where she lived with her husband, a British painter. It's where, with the help of Miller's son, Winslet scoured the archives and decided to focus Miller's life story not on her history as a model who had many lovers.

[Timothée Chalamet]

We don't hire older models.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Don't blow a gasket.

[Kate Winslet]

I'm not a model anymore.

[Narrator/Announcer]

But as a troubled woman who, in her late 30s, left her glamorous life to become a war photographer. Capturing some of the most haunting images from World War II, including some of the first uses of napalm and Nazi concentration camps, Winslet says she knew it wouldn't be an easy sell. Tell me a little bit about what some of those phone calls were like.

[Kate Winslet]

There was one potential investor who said to me, why should I like this woman? I mean, she's drunk. She's, you know, she's like, loud. She's like. I mean, he just probably stopped short of saying she has wrinkles on her face.

[Narrator/Announcer]

You had a director say something like, I'll get your little Lee funding. You want to share names now?

[Kate Winslet]

No.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Never.

[Kate Winslet]

Never. No, that's not my vibe. No, no.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

But.

[Kate Winslet]

So this director did say, yeah, tell you what, if you be in my film, I'll help you get your little Lee Miller film made. And he actually went like that. And I was like, might just have lost signal.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Oop.

[Narrator/Announcer]

She didn't make the movie with those men. Instead, she insisted on bringing in a female director, co producer, and writers. Winslet was intimately involved in every step of production, as we saw during a scoring session.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Kate?

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah?

[Narrator/Announcer]

It doesn't feel too loud to you, does it?

[Kate Winslet]

Well, it's funny.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Okay, it's too loud.

[Anderson Cooper]

Let's do it again.

[Narrator/Announcer]

She also enlisted a historian to make an exact replica of Miller's camera and really took pictures while she was acting. Why did you feel like you had to learn this craft?

[Kate Winslet]

It couldn't just be a prop. It needed to feel like an extension of my arms. I had to be confident and comfortable with it, and in order to do that, I had to know what I was doing.

[Narrator/Announcer]

She spends months, even years, preparing for roles, inventing an elaborate backstory for every character, down to what sport they played in school and how they feel about their mothers.

[Kate Winslet]

You know me, I'm impulsive.

[Narrator/Announcer]

She's learned to dig for fossils, make dresses, and free dive, holding her breath for more than seven minutes for Avatar 2. And she's not afraid of being exposed.

[Kate Winslet]

Alright, make me invisible.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Because to see a Kate Winslet movie often means you'll See a lot of Kate Winslet.

[Kate Winslet]

Let's see what happens.

[Narrator/Announcer]

And then there's the accents. Yeah, Mershian down at Easttown, she won an Emmy for Mayor of Easttown playing a vaping, beer swigging detective, nailing the specific sound of Delaware County, a Philadelphia suburb.

She's probably lying at the bottom of.

[Kate Winslet]

The Delaware river right now.

[Narrator/Announcer]

And why is the Philly so hard?

[Kate Winslet]

It's actually the I sound in the Philadelphia and the Delco dialect that is really difficult. They don't say, that's nice. They say, that's nice.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

I like your bike.

[Narrator/Announcer]

And though she may seem like someone with a shelf full of Oscars, she won her first and only in 2009 for her portrayal of a Nazi prison guard in the Reader.

[Kate Winslet]

I want to take out a book.

[Narrator/Announcer]

For years she kept the statue in her bathroom so guests could hold it up in the mirror and pretend to win.

[Kate Winslet]

I used to get the bus into town a lot.

[Narrator/Announcer]

We went with Winslet to Redding, the working class town just outside London where she was born and raised. This is the house.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, my God, this is the house.

[Narrator/Announcer]

The front door boarded up. Her family no longer lives here.

[Kate Winslet]

I left her in until when I was sort of 16 and I, I kind of left home really when I was 16.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Winslet is the second of four children. Her father was a struggling actor who often gave his daughter the advice she still lives by. You're only as good as your last gig.

[Kate Winslet]

He would sort of hop from job.

[Narrator/Announcer]

To job and then he would do.

[Kate Winslet]

You know, part time work to make ends meet in the meantime. But the thing that was interesting, I think, is that even though there was so little, as you can see, to go around, we were really happy.

[Narrator/Announcer]

With financial help from a charity for actors, she enrolled in a local theater school when she was 11, catching the train into London for auditions. She says the scrutiny of her appearance started young. You once had a drama teacher tell you, settle for the fat girl parts.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, yeah. Now listen, Kate, I'm telling you, darling, if you're going to look like this, you'll have to settle for the fat girl parts.

[Narrator/Announcer]

And I wasn't.

[Kate Winslet]

I was never even fat.

[Narrator/Announcer]

What did that do to your spirit, your confidence?

[Kate Winslet]

It made me think, I'll just show you. Just quietly. It was like a sort of a quiet determination, really. Yeah, I'll just go in.

[Narrator/Announcer]

This grocery store was once the deli where 16 year old Winslet was working when she got the news that she'd landed her first movie.

[Kate Winslet]

And I was making a sandwich and this the Phone rang, and I swear to God, there was something about the way the phone rang. I was like, oh, my God, that's for me. I wonder if it's about the job. And then the owner was like, hey, phone for you. I thought, oh, my God. So I ran and. And was told that I'd gotten this part. And then I was just so unraveled, I had to leave. I was like, I've got to go.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Home and tell mom and dad.

[Narrator/Announcer]

After filming that first movie, Heavenly Creatures, Winslet went right back to making sandwiches. That must have been kind of a. What is going on in my world here?

[Kate Winslet]

Because that was what I knew. You know, my dad would do jobs and he'd go back to, you know, tarmacking the roads or working as a postman or. So I just thought, oh, well, that's what you do as an actor. You know, if you're lucky, you get a job and then you go back to a day job.

[Narrator/Announcer]

At 20, she got the offer for the part that would make Hollywood history. Playing rose opposite Leonardo DiCaprio as Jack in Titanic, the first film to break a billion dollars at the box office, Winslet was game to discuss just about anything. But let's talk about Titanic.

[Kate Winslet]

Really?

[Narrator/Announcer]

I was wondering what your reaction would be if I said that to you.

[Kate Winslet]

No, I'm happy to talk about Titanic.

[Narrator/Announcer]

I guess it wouldn't be an interview with you if we didn't talk about Titanic as well.

[Kate Winslet]

It could be an interview without it.

[Narrator/Announcer]

We tried to ask about the famous scene that has sparked decades of debates.

[Kate Winslet]

I'll never let go, I promise.

[Narrator/Announcer]

May I ask, true Leo really could have fit on the raft?

[Kate Winslet]

You know what? I have no idea.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Does it annoy you at all that 27 years later, this movie still comes up in this way and probably will for the rest of your life? No.

[Kate Winslet]

I tell you what I do sometimes find just curious, I suppose, is whatever I say about Titanic will often be the take home. So I just think, oh, well, there were those things that I said about the film I was talking about. And yet that's the one thing. So that's the only thing that sometimes I just think.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Where to miss?

[Narrator/Announcer]

To the stars. While Titanic made Winslet a star, she says it came at a cost. Paparazzi aggressively pursued her and just listened to how she was ridiculed for her.

Weight, a little melted and poured into.

That dress, and, you know, she just.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Needed two sizes large and it would probably been okay.

[Narrator/Announcer]

I gasped at how cruel some of that coverage was of you at that time.

[Kate Winslet]

I know, it's absolutely appalling. What kind of a person must they be to do something like that to a young actress who's just trying to figure it out?

[Narrator/Announcer]

Did you ever get face to face with any of those people?

[Kate Winslet]

I did get face to face.

[Narrator/Announcer]

What did you say?

[Kate Winslet]

I let them have it. I said, I hope this haunts you.

[Narrator/Announcer]

It was a great moment.

[Kate Winslet]

It was a great moment because it wasn't just for me. It was for all those people who were subjected to that level of harassment. It was horrific. It was really bad.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Now 49, Winslet says she developed an armor that she brings to characters like Lee Miller.

[Kate Winslet]

People say, oh, you were so brave for this role. You didn't wear any makeup. You know, you had wrinkles. Do we say to the men, oh, you were so brave for this role. You grew a beard? No, we don't.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Does that still happen to you?

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah, it happens to me all the time. It's not brave. It's. It's playing the part.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Is it true that a crew member came up to you and said, you might want to kind of sit up a little bit, you're showing a lump?

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah, you might want to kind of just sit in, Sit, suck in, sit up. And I was like, you didn't. I don't think Lee would have done. It's about knowing that Lee's. Her ease with her physical self was.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Hard won in Hollywood. You could have a lot of great lights so that you don't see the lump that we all have, the bumps that we all have.

[Kate Winslet]

You know, I'm done.

[Narrator/Announcer]

You don't care about showing that?

[Kate Winslet]

No, I don't. I don't.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Why not? It's exhausting when she's not filming. Winslet lives far from the spotlight in a quiet English seaside village. She and her husband, Ned Abel smith, have a 10 year old son. She also has a 20 year old son and 24 year old daughter from previous marriages. Winslet is not on social media and told us she doesn't read reviews of her work. But this much she knows.

[Kate Winslet]

It's hard to make films about historical female figures. You know, typically those aren't films that would necessarily do well in the box office. Says she, sitting here proudly telling you that her film has taken over 25 million so far.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Cha Ching.

[Kate Winslet]

And we made a film about one woman.

[Narrator/Announcer]

So there's not a sense of I told you so.

[Kate Winslet]

No, I don't feel like that. But I just hope they've seen the film.

[Anderson Cooper]

I'm Anderson Cooper. Thanks for joining us. We'll be back next week with an all new edition of 60 Minutes. I want to know what's going on in the world. You can't do that if you're just sitting in a chair reading about what other people have said. You have to get out there and listen. By telling people about each other, you actually bring this country together. There are big questions that all of us are asking. I want to get you the answers. I'm Tony Decopal. Join me on the CBS Evening News.

[Narrator/Announcer]

I'm back.

I'm really back.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

School Spirits returned. Why am I here? Not dead, right? Disruption on this campus will not be tolerated on January 28th.

[Kate Winslet]

I look crazy.

[Narrator/Announcer]

It's because that's how I feel. I don't know how to live in two worlds.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

Secrets lurk.

[Narrator/Announcer]

There are others beneath the surface.

[Timothée Chalamet]

They're not like us. We need to get out of here now.

[Jamie Lee Curtis]

School Spirits new season streaming January 28th.

[Timothée Chalamet]

Only on Paramount Plus.