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Bill Whitaker
When Judge John Kunauer blocked President Trump's bid to end birthright citizenship, he wasn't prepared for what happened next. Death threats?
Judge John Kunauer
Oh yes, oh yes. Dozens of them. Dozens, if not hundreds.
Bill Whitaker
He's one of 400 federal judges who were targets of serious threats last year, a 78% jump since 2020.
Judge John Jones
If we're not careful, we're going to get a judge killed.
Leslie Stahl
American shipbuilding is in shambles, a money loser falling decades behind our global rivals. China makes roughly 1,000 cargo ships a year, the US maybe three.
David Kim
At the end of the day, shipbuilding is a national security necessity. The US Needs to be able to secure our own commerce. We need to be able to export our own energy. We are in a shipbuilding crisis in the United States and every American should be aware of that.
Anderson Cooper
Dogs live alongside us and are exposed to the same environments. They exercise with us, eat our food, drink the same water. That's why researchers believe dogs may be one of man's best hopes to treat age related illnesses.
Stephanie McGrath
Cancer, dementia, all these diseases that we see as humans age occur in dogs.
Scott Pelley
And you believe looking at dogs can help us not only help dogs, but humans as well.
Stephanie McGrath
Yes, of course. Absolutely.
Leslie Stahl
I'm Leslie Stahl.
Bill Whitaker
I'm Bill Whitaker.
Anderson Cooper
I'm Anderson Cooper.
Sharon Alfonsi
I'm Sharon Alfonsi.
John Wertheim
I'm John Wertheim.
Leslie Stahl
I'm Cecilia Vega.
Scott Pelley
I'm Scott Pelley.
Leslie Stahl
Those stories tonight on 60 Minutes.
Sharon Alfonsi
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Spectrum business is here to help you build those connections stronger and faster.
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Imagine running your business with fast, reliable
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fiber powered Internet so you can stay connected to customers, employees and vendors without having to worry. We know flexibility matters. That's why select Spectrum Business packages come with a three year price guarantee so you can focus on running your business plus enjoy savings on Internet, phone, TV and mobile services. When you bundle all with a 30 day money back guarantee and no long term contracts. With Spectrum Business, you get more than just Internet. You get support with 100% US based customer service. Real people who understand small business. Ready 247 to help you stay up and running. Join millions of business owners like you across America who trust Spectrum Business for reliability, speed and support. Visit spectrum.combusiness today to get started. Restrictions apply. Services not available in all areas.
Bill Whitaker
When the Supreme Court struck down President Trump's tariffs last February, the president lashed out against two Supreme Court justices he nominated, calling them fools and lap dogs. The president has often railed against judges when they rule against him. What often happens next is a barrage of violent threats from his followers against those judges. As we first reported in March, we spoke with 26 federal judges, nine Democratic appointees, 17 Republican, both sitting and retired. The sitting judges told us they feel under siege Most would not appear on
camera, fearful for their safety.
Judge John Kunauer, appointed by Ronald Reagan, is one of the few who would. He blocked President Trump's bid to end birthright citizenship. He wasn't prepared for what happened next.
Judge John Kunauer
My wife and I are at home and the doorbell rings and I go to the door and there's, I think, five sheriff's deputies there with long rifles,
Bill Whitaker
and they show up with guns drawn.
Judge John Kunauer
Oh, yeah, yes, yes. Long guns, very intimidating guns. And they said to me, sir, could we see your wife? And I said, whatever for? And they said, well, sir, we've had a report that you've murdered your wife.
Bill Whitaker
It was a cruel hoax. The next day, a bomb threat. For John Kunauer, a federal district court judge in Washington state, it didn't end there.
Judge John Kunauer
There was a congressman that had a wanted poster. She said, wanted in big letters, top, and then a picture of several of us. It said everything except dead or alive.
Bill Whitaker
His trouble started when President Trump signed an executive order to end the 14th Amendment's guarantee of citizenship for infants born on U.S. soil to non citizens. Judge Kunauer ruled it, quote, blatantly unconstitutional. The threats poured in.
Judge John Kunauer
Some of it was very, very ugly and very threatening.
Bill Whitaker
Death threats?
Judge John Kunauer
Oh, yes, oh, yes. Dozens of them. Dozens, if not hundreds.
Bill Whitaker
Judge Kunauer told us threats come with the turf. He has sentenced an Al Qaeda bomber and Montana militia members and needed round the clock protection. But he said he'd never had as many death threats as with the birthright citizenship case.
Judge John Kunauer
I've been at this for 44 years. I have never encountered the hostility toward the judiciary that has existed in this country in the last year. And I don't think it's because we're making bad decisions. I think it's because there are people who think that they can make a lot of political hay out of criticizing the federal judiciary.
Leslie Stahl
And also we cannot allow a handful
Judge John Kunauer
of communist radical left judges to obstruct enforcement of our laws and assume the duties that belong solely to the President of the United States.
Bill Whitaker
When President Trump lost a battle in court to deport migrants, he called the judge a lunatic. When immigration crackdowns were ruled illegal, he called the judges monsters. It's incendiary comments like that that have provoked a torrent of death threats. Our reporting found hundreds of threats were left on judges voicemails. This one after a judge ruled the President had viol the First Amendment.
Scott Pelley
I hope your whole family and everybody you love is raped in front of you and has their heads cut off.
Bill Whitaker
And this one after a judge ruled the president couldn't cut certain government benefits.
Scott Pelley
And I wish somebody would assassinate your ass.
Bill Whitaker
It's a volcano of vitriol.
Scott Pelley
How double dare you to try to put charges on Donald J. Trump, you son of a bitch.
Bill Whitaker
It falls to the U.S. marshals to pinpoint the verbal threats that might lead to physical violence. Judges told the marshals are overwhelmed. Last year, 400 federal judges were targets of serious threats. A 78% jump in four years.
Judge John Jones
In very plain English, if we're not careful, we're going to get a judge killed. It's just that stark.
Bill Whitaker
It's that serious.
Judge John Jones
It's that serious.
Bill Whitaker
Judge John Jones is a retired federal judge from Pennsylvania, a George W. Bush appointee. He and 55 other retired judges were so concern, they formed a bipartisan group to lobby the White House to stop demonizing judges.
Judge John Jones
This is such a toxic environment where people are taking arms and can identify where a judge lives, can strike out against that judge or the judge's family members.
Bill Whitaker
So when President Trump attacks judges as rogue, deranged corruption, what do you think he's doing and why?
Judge John Jones
I think that he's attempting to delegitimize the federal courts.
Bill Whitaker
Why would he do that? What's the benefit to him?
Judge John Jones
It's a presidency sort of on steroids, and you have a very dormant, I think, United States Congress and a president who means to really say what the law is. Well, you know, civics taught me that Congress makes the law and the president faithfully executes the laws of the country. We've turned that on its head right now.
Judge John Kunauer
Okay, we'll sign right here.
Leslie Stahl
Right.
Bill Whitaker
Judge Jones told us this White House is testing the bounds of presidential power. Today, the Trump administration is facing nearly 800 lawsuits contesting its agenda. From immigration to job cuts, judges are caught squarely in the crossfire.
Judge Esther Salas
As a judge who has taken an oath to uphold the Constitution and defend the rule of law, I have a duty to call this out. That's why I'm talking to you.
Bill Whitaker
Judge Esther Salas is a federal district court judge in New Jersey, a Barack Obama appointee. She has become a leading voice against the personal attacks on judges, which has made her the target of death threats. She knows the stakes. In 2020, a failed litigant came to her front door and shot her son Daniel dead and wounded her husband Mark. It was not driven by politics, but she fears today's inflammatory rhetoric makes such horrors more likely.
Judge Esther Salas
I'm more concerned right now than I was after my only child was murdered.
Bill Whitaker
Why?
Judge Esther Salas
Because I think that the attacks against the judiciary are only getting worse. What I'm seeing now is far different than what I've seen in the past. This is coming from our national leader on down.
Bill Whitaker
Judge Salas told us vilifying judges is eroding trust in the courts.
Judge Esther Salas
If you disagree with a ruling that we make, appeal us. If you disagree with a sentence we render, appeal us. The answer is not to dehumanize us. And that has been, I think, the active agenda as of late. I feel like sometimes our political leaders are playing Russian roulette with our lives.
Bill Whitaker
Do you think the rhetoric emboldens people?
Judge Esther Salas
I do. I think it's dangerous.
Bill Whitaker
In a statement, the White House said, as a survivor of two assassination attempts, no one understands the dangers of political violence more than President Trump. It went on to accuse the judiciary of brazen defiance with its unlawful rulings.
Todd Blanche
These activist judges.
Bill Whitaker
Then Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche called it a war.
Todd Blanche
We are routinely getting stays and getting reversals because of local judges just not following the law full stop. And it's the same judges or not the same judges, but there's a group of judges that are repeat players, and that's obviously not by happenstance. That's intentional and it's a war, man.
Bill Whitaker
Todd Blanche declined our request for an interview. In a statement to us, he said some judges continue to issue overbroad and even unreasoned injunctions. But adding threats and intimidation of federal officials is unlawful. Judge John Kunauer told us the Constitution is a judge's North Star. So to someone who says that you are a political agent in trying to thwart the goals of the president, you would say.
Judge John Kunauer
I would say you don't understand what we do. We apply the Constitution. For the last 250 years in this country, it's been the judges that say this is either constitutional or it isn't. If nobody's going to make that decision, nobody's going to enforce the Constitution. It becomes like the Constitution of Russia.
Bill Whitaker
The threats aren't just coming from the right. In 2020, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer warned that Supreme Court Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh would, quote, pay the price for restricting abortion. He later apologized. In 2022, a would be assassin was arrested for trying to kill Justice Kavanaugh at his home. But Judge Jones, a Republican appointee, told us the violent language of the right has no match.
Judge John Jones
The national rhetoric from both sides has probably gotten worse over time. However, I would not concede that the Democratic Party or that Democratic officeholders have conducted themselves in any way that's similar to what this administration is doing with respect to the federal judiciary. There's simply no evidence of that.
Ron Zayas
And when you look at the database, it's the names of the addresses of hundreds of elected officials and judges.
Bill Whitaker
Ron Zayas is the CEO of Ironwall, a company that scrubs judges personal data from the web.
Ron Zayas
So here's another threat that we have toward a judge.
Bill Whitaker
Zayas told us in 14 years, he has never seen as many violent threats as today.
Ron Zayas
You know, if you broadcast that message to a million people, you just need one to act on it. And that's the terrifying part that judges are having to deal with today.
Bill Whitaker
Zias also combs through the dark web. Look at the gallows. My God. A criminal haven on the Internet where anonymous threat actors try to cause real world harm. These days, Zayas is worried about a new type of threat.
Ron Zayas
The threats used to be, you ruled against me and I want to kill you. Now, the kind of threats we're seeing, there's a whole other sphere of saying, I want to influence what you do. It's mob mentality. They want to threaten you so that you make the right decision.
Bill Whitaker
The marshals are also investigating a striking new form of intimidation. Hundreds of unsolicited pizzas sent to judges and their children across the country. An innocuous delivery with an ominous message.
Judge Esther Salas
We know where you live. We know where your children live. And do you want to end up like Judge Salas son?
Bill Whitaker
At least 20 were sent to Holmes in the name of Judge Salas late son.
Judge Esther Salas
The order form had my murdered son's name on it. They're weaponizing my baby boy. They're weaponizing Daniel's name to inflict fear on judges.
Bill Whitaker
I know that's shocking, but it must be so painful.
Judge Esther Salas
You know, that one took me and you add to that for flavor, that I have yet to see the attorney general or the deputy attorney general stand at a podium and denounce these forms of intimidation.
Bill Whitaker
Former Attorney General Pam Bondi also declined our request for an interview. Judge Salus, among many others, told us the rule of law is at stake.
Judge Esther Salas
I sit here as Daniel's mom. I sit here as a woman who lost her only child. Mark and I have been to hell and back. And when I see that kind of irresponsible behavior coming from our political leaders and people in power,
Stephanie McGrath
it makes me
Pat Schultz
sad
Judge Esther Salas
and it makes me very worried because I worry for our democracy. I really do.
Sharon Alfonsi
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Judge John Kunauer
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Judge John Jones
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Leslie Stahl
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Leslie Stahl
The war in the Gulf and blockade of the Strait of Hormuz has highlighted the importance of ships. Not just warships, but cargo vessels like those carrying oil or gas. But as we first reported in March, American shipbuilding is in shambles due to decades of short sighted policies and neglect. Our submarine building program is sluggish and our commercial shipbuilding is nearly extinct. China makes roughly 1,000 cargo ships a year, the US maybe three. The Trump administration has called this a national security crisis, but can this ship be turned around. This is the Philadelphia shipyard, one of only two left in the US Building large commercial cargo ships. Once a symbol of American might and innovation, ships built here helped win our independence in the 18th century and World War II in the 20th.
Bill Whitaker
$80 million worth of floating defense.
Leslie Stahl
This shipyard has become a symbol of American industrial decline. America falling decades behind our global rivals. And it still uses a crane from 1942. Now, talk about a metaphor of how far behind we are.
Justin (Apprentice at shipyard)
A lot of times people call it a dinosaur.
Leslie Stahl
What else is a dinosaur?
Justin (Apprentice at shipyard)
Almost everything that you've seen out there.
Leslie Stahl
David Kim, the new head of the Philly shipyard, showed us around. He works for Hanwha, a giant shipmaker from South Korea, the country making most ships after China. Hanwha bought the yard in 2024 for $100 million, then poured in another hundred million and tasked Kim, a Korean American born and bred in Texas, to bring it into the 21st century. How many ships do you actually make here?
Justin (Apprentice at shipyard)
Here at the Hanwha Philly shipyard, we deliver one to one and a half ships a year, versus our yard in Korea, where they deliver basically one a week.
Leslie Stahl
What? One a year for delivery versus one a week.
David Kim
That's correct.
Leslie Stahl
Not building ships in the US Is considered a national security threat because if there's a conflict with China, for instance, Beijing could weaponize its substantial merchant fleet and cut us off from global goods. Hanwha plans to spend $5 billion in Philly and has already sent 50 trainers from Korea to teach American workers.
Justin (Apprentice at shipyard)
Our aspiration is to get to up to 20 ships a year here at the shipyard.
Leslie Stahl
So we come back in two years. How different will it look?
Justin (Apprentice at shipyard)
You'll see robots, you will see automation equipment. And we're looking at to grow the workforce by call it seven to 10,000 people.
Leslie Stahl
Sounds great. Only there's a huge shortage in the US of skilled labor in shipbuilding, including welders and pipe fitters. This work is grueling. Freezing in winter, scorching in summer, and it's dangerous. And while the yard has a training program, it can only train 20 or so new hires at a time, and it takes three years. Still, apprentices Justin, Jeff and Meg told us this beats their old jobs. I worked at Amazon as a grocery picker.
Jeff (Apprentice at shipyard)
Before this job, I was a cake decorator at a bakery.
Leslie Stahl
And a nanny.
Jeff (Apprentice at shipyard)
And a nanny as well. Yes, I work many jobs.
Leslie Stahl
If you were to pitch this job and this place to a friend, what would you say?
Jeff (Apprentice at shipyard)
I would tell my friend that instead of paying out of pocket to go to A trade school. You're getting paid while you learn here the entire time they pay you? Yes.
Leslie Stahl
And healthcare.
Jeff (Apprentice at shipyard)
And healthcare. Which is amazing.
Leslie Stahl
But aren't the conditions really harsh? Not the easiest work, like I go home. Granted, I'm more tired, but it's more fulfilling to me.
Scott Pelley
Makes you feel like you're part of something bigger.
Leslie Stahl
But not only are workers scarce and the yard outdated, the Philly shipyard has to bring key components to the US Such as propellers and even the engine. So ships that take six months to build in Korea or China can take twice as long here and cost five times as much. And who will buy them?
David Kim
There's no doubt that we have challenges and headwinds, but I also think we have a unique moment in time.
Leslie Stahl
Michael Coulter, who's Hanwha's top executive in charge of US Operations, says the way to lower prices is scale up production. So you're saying if we build more ships, then the cost per ship will come down significantly? It's so busy here. It is busy. He took us to Hanwha shipyard in Korea, where nine ships are being built at once, four in a row. Like Lego sets the size of football fields. Steel chunks bigger than buildings hover over the ground. They're lifted above the the water or they just glide by. He showed us how far ahead they are technologically. Rows and rows of robots. But even with all the automation, the human workforce keeps growing. There are over 26,000 workers on site, many getting around on low tech because they this place is so vast. And the yard keeps hiring, training 400 workers at once, way more than the 20 in Philly. And they're taught using cutting edge virtual reality. He's learning to paint. It's a dance of tech, cranes, trucks and bikes. And this yard also builds military vessels, including submarines, which the US desperately needs since our fleet is aging and we can barely make new ones.
David Kim
From a Hanwha perspective, we build great
Leslie Stahl
submarines here in Korea.
David Kim
Here in Korea, Yes. We have told the US Government that if they so wish, we will build submarines for them in the United States and in Philadelphia, just like we do in Korea.
Leslie Stahl
Is the all goal for your company to build nuclear submarines for the U.S. navy?
David Kim
Submarine program in the United States is heading in the wrong direction. And we think we can help another way.
Leslie Stahl
Hanwha says it wants to help the US is with transporting liquefied natural gas, or lng, hoping to build these giant LNG tankers in Philly. The United States is the largest producer of natural gas, and yet we don't have any LNG ships that we make ourselves. Is that correct?
David Kim
That's correct. Not a single one.
Leslie Stahl
This leads to an absurd situation. While we export LNG on foreign carriers to over 30 countries, one country we
John Wertheim
don't send it to is other parts of the United States.
Leslie Stahl
Colin Graybaugh, a trade expert at the libertarian Cato Institute, explains that a a century old law called the Jones act requires that any cargo shipped between U.S. ports, say from Baltimore to Boston or Seattle to Juneau, that cargo has to be on an American made ship. So if the cargo is lng, it has to be on an American made LNG ship. But we don't build any.
John Wertheim
That's right. There aren't any. And you might think this seems like an easy problem to solve. Go build the ship, transport the gas. Except the math doesn't work. If you want to build one of those ships in Asia, the cost is around $260 million. Here in the United States, about a billion dollars.
Leslie Stahl
Well, wait, are there parts of this country that cannot get natural gas because of this law?
John Wertheim
That's right. New England.
Leslie Stahl
In winters, New England has to import pricier natural gas from abroad. And even though it's extracted only a few states away, in fact, Puerto Rico
John Wertheim
imported Russian natural gas the same month as Russia invaded Ukraine.
Jeff (Apprentice at shipyard)
No.
John Wertheim
So we take a stance against Russia. On the other hand, we're importing their energy, something that we have in abundance. You can't make this stuff up.
Leslie Stahl
Last year, President Trump made solving our ship crisis a national priority, signing an executive order, creating a multi agency action plan and a White House Office of Shipbuilding. We're way, way, way behind. We used to build a ship a
Bill Whitaker
day and now we don't do a
Leslie Stahl
ship a year, practically. But the White House has conflicting priorities. So here's the administration, it wants to build ships and they're putting huge tariffs, 50% on steel, which is the main component in a ship. What's wrong with that picture?
John Wertheim
Yes, this is one of the paradoxes of the Trump administration. We're artificially increasing the cost of building ships in this country.
Leslie Stahl
So why can't shipbuilders just use American made steel? There's no tariffs on those.
John Wertheim
That's true. But when we put heavy tariffs on imported steel, we drive those costs up. That's a great opportunity for Americans to raise their own price. What we know is today American steel is roughly twice as expensive as steel in, say, China.
Leslie Stahl
What you're saying is when the price of steel goes up because of tariffs, then the American steel manufacturer hikes the price of Steel.
John Wertheim
These are profit oriented enterprises.
Leslie Stahl
He actually thinks we should be able to just buy and use ships from our allies, South Korea, not build them. And he points to another conflicting White House priority, making it hard, harder to grant skilled immigrants work visas.
John Wertheim
Traditionally, a lot of immigrants have been willing to do this kind of work, and yet we are turning our back on immigration, adopting a more hostile stance.
Leslie Stahl
The administration seems to be fighting its own policy. Yes, it didn't help when last September, ICE raided a Korean battery plant in Georgia, alleging visa violations. Agents dragged off 300 Korean technicians and engineers in cuffs and chains despite their coming here to train American workers. Hanwha's Michael Coulter says this caused a backlash in Korea. Have you been assured that what happened in Georgia will not happen in Philadelphia?
David Kim
We've been assured that our visas are the right visas and our team is not going to be impacted.
Leslie Stahl
The White House is committed to making ships here. So last year, when President Trump threatened to put tariffs on Korean imports, Korea's president offered instead to invest $150 billion to revive the US shipbuilding industry. Promising Philly is just the start.
David Kim
There's a recognition that the United States has a problem that Korea may be uniquely positioned to help.
Leslie Stahl
That's like aid for the United States.
Judge Esther Salas
Wow.
Leslie Stahl
Wouldn't it be more profitable and wiser if the United States just bought the ships from Korea?
David Kim
That doesn't solve the problem. At the end of the day, shipbuilding is a national security necessity. The US Needs to be able to secure our own commerce. We need to be able to export our own energy.
Leslie Stahl
The idea that we now rely on Korean expertise to help us build an industry that we need for national security reasons. Should we be ashamed of ourselves? Should we feel weak?
David Kim
I don't think we should be fearful or feel weak. We are in a shipbuilding crisis in the United States and every American should be aware of that. But that doesn't mean that it's not solved.
Leslie Stahl
We once deployed ships to save South Korea. Now we've been forced to turn to South Korea to save us. In a statement to 60 Minutes, the White House said, quote, no president has done more to bolster American maritime power. With gas prices becoming increasingly volatile due to the war, the President has temporarily suspended the Jones act to ease the transport of oil and gas within the US.
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Finding the right furniture for my home
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Sharon Alfonsi
As a woman entrepreneur, you know that every connection counts. Whether it's with your customers, your team or your community.
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Spectrum Business is here to help you build those connections stronger and faster.
Sharon Alfonsi
Imagine running your business with fast reliable
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fiber powered Internet so you can stay connected to customers, employees and vendors without having to worry about. We know flexibility matters. That's why select Spectrum Business packages come with a three year price guarantee so you can focus on running your business plus enjoy savings on Internet, phone, TV and mobile services. When you bundle all with a 30 day money back guarantee and no long term contracts with Spectrum Business you get more than just Internet. You get support with 100% US based customer service. Real people who understand small business ready 247 to help you stay up and running. Join millions of business owners like you across America who trust Spectrum Business for reliability, speed and support. Visit spectrum.combusiness today to get started. Restrictions apply Services not available in all areas.
Anderson Cooper
Everyone knows the old adage about dogs being man's best friend, but you may not know that dogs might also be one of man's best hopes to treat age related illnesses. That's because our canines develop many of the same diseases we do, including dementia. As we first reported last March, dogs brains are a lot like ours, so studying how dementia and other diseases naturally progress in them may also help us. That's what the Dog Aging Project is all about. Unlocking secrets to a longer, healthier life for humans and our four legged friends.
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What do you think? You ready to do your test?
Anderson Cooper
At hundreds of vet clinics and hospitals around the country, including here at Colorado State University College of Veterinary Medicine and Biomedical Sciences, people are bringing in their dogs.
Pat Schultz
Does he ever seem more irritable?
Julie Marano
Yes.
Anderson Cooper
The Dog Aging Project is a collaboration of dog owners, scientists and veterinarians studying dogs, more than 50,000 of them so far. By collecting data on their diets and exercise, analyzing blood samples and doing MRIs of dogs brains.
Scott Pelley
Did you always want to be a doctor?
Anderson Cooper
Matt Kaeberline, a biologist who spent decades trying to understand and reverse the causes of aging, co founded the project in 2014. Where did the idea of the dog
Scott Pelley
aging project come from?
Matt Kaeberline
I had this light bulb moment, which I still remember vividly. I realized, oh, my God, we know about three or four or five ways to slow aging in laboratory animals. Some of those are going to work in dogs.
Anderson Cooper
You think that's possible?
Matt Kaeberline
Absolutely. I have no doubt that's possible. The biology of aging is so conserved or shared across the animal kingdom. Much of this works the same way in dogs, much of it works the same way in people.
Leslie Stahl
You're okay.
Anderson Cooper
To help study how the brain ages, Kaberline recruited Stephanie McGrath, a veterinary neurologist from Colorado State University.
Scott Pelley
I think a lot of people would
Anderson Cooper
be surprised to know that there are neurologists for animals.
Stephanie McGrath
Yes, a lot of people are surprised.
Scott Pelley
And you believe looking at dogs and looking at dogs brains can help us not only help dogs, but humans as well?
Stephanie McGrath
Yes, of course. Absolutely. There's no doubt.
Anderson Cooper
Why?
Stephanie McGrath
Because right now we are using mice and we are putting them through treatment trials, and then we go directly to human trials.
Scott Pelley
I've read that as many as 90% of the things that work in mice do not end up working in humans.
Stephanie McGrath
Right.
Scott Pelley
So to have something in between would be hugely beneficial.
Stephanie McGrath
Right. And not just another species, but a species that very closely mimic naturally occurring diseases of aging in humans. Cancer, dementia, all these diseases that we see as humans age occur in dogs.
Anderson Cooper
One reason they live alongside us and are exposed to the same environments. They exercise with us, eat our food, drink the same water. Also key, McGrath says, is the fact that dogs have shorter lives because they age faster than humans.
Stephanie McGrath
We can get a ton of information that would take decades to do in humans.
Scott Pelley
In a human being, if you wanted to do a lifelong study, obviously you would have to do it from the age of 1 to 60. 70, 80.
Stephanie McGrath
Exactly. So many decades versus 5, 10 years. So we just check to make sure his sensory's good.
Anderson Cooper
McGrath has been tracking hundreds of dogs to see how their cognitive ability changes as they age, including 12 year old Murphy, a German Shepherd. Poodle mix.
Pat Schultz
He gets his puppy Zoomies about once a week now versus once a day.
Stephanie McGrath
All right, they're still in there, though.
Leslie Stahl
They're still there.
Anderson Cooper
For Pat Schultz, like many of the dog owners we met, enrolling Murphy in the dog aging project was personal. Her husband Bill suffered from Alzheimer's disease, progressing to the point he stopped recognizing Pat as his Wife.
Scott Pelley
What do you do in a situation like that?
Pat Schultz
Just go along with it. He asked me out on a date.
Judge John Jones
Really?
Pat Schultz
Yeah. Can we go on a date?
Stephanie McGrath
Sure.
Pat Schultz
Let's go have dinner, you know.
Anderson Cooper
Throughout his decline, Murphy was Bill's constant companion.
Scott Pelley
Murphy was a caregiver?
Pat Schultz
In some ways, yeah. Murphy was like his nanny dog. Bill would forget his phone. I have a tracking collar on Murphy. So as long as Murphy had that tracking collar on, I knew where Bill was.
Scott Pelley
So while Bill is dealing with Alzheimer's, you hear about the dog aging project.
Pat Schultz
I think I was looking at clinical studies and I found something about dog. I thought, oh, dog studies. I hadn't heard those. You know, Murphy was getting older. Knowing that he's a big dog, they don't have as long a lifespan, usually.
Anderson Cooper
For the past three years, Murphy has undergone testing to assess his physical and mental fitness. In games like these, dogs are shown where a treat is hidden and seconds later allowed to go and get it.
Leslie Stahl
Okay.
Anderson Cooper
If they can remember where it is.
Leslie Stahl
There it is.
Anderson Cooper
When it was Murphy's turn, he struggled, wanting to stay with Pat, too anxious to do the test.
Judge Esther Salas
Puppy, look.
Leslie Stahl
Okay.
Anderson Cooper
On the second try, he got a little turned around, but eventually found the tree.
Bill Whitaker
There you go.
Leslie Stahl
Attaboy. Good job.
Anderson Cooper
The anxiety that Murphy showed, is that
Scott Pelley
a potential sign of dementia?
Stephanie McGrath
Yes, is the short answer. In the last few visits at csu, he's really progressed in terms of his challenges with his tasks both here and at home.
Anderson Cooper
Another dog, Ralph, was also tested. At 14, he's already shown signs of advanced dementia.
Bill Whitaker
Puppy, look.
Anderson Cooper
Ralph quickly forgot about the treat, wandered off, and picked up a piece of lint off the floor. All the information collected in the dog aging project, including from these tests, goes into a public database accessible to researchers around the world. It's been used in more than 50 scientific studies so far, many of which found correlations between lifestyle environment and disease risk. One finding dogs that live with other dogs appear to suffer from fewer diseases. And when it comes. When it comes to cognitive decline, dogs that don't exercise were found to have a six times greater chance of developing dementia. When some of the dogs in the aging project die, their brains are donated and examined. Dr. Dirk Kean is a neuropathologist from the University of Washington. For the past 20 years, he studied thousands of human brains looking for causes of Alzheimer's. His motivation for participating in the dog aging project was watching his mother suffer from Alzheimer's and also seeing his dog Spring decline from what looked like to him the same disease, what some call doggy dementia.
Dr. Dirk Kean
So that spring, when she was a
Scott Pelley
healthy, happy dog, tongue out, tail wagging,
Leslie Stahl
she was a happy dog. Yeah.
Dr. Dirk Kean
And this is Spring, near the end of her life. She would get confused and sort of lost. She would stare at walls. She would just stop and stare into space. She would lean against things. This happens to people. It's not just memory when we start to have dementia. Dementia is a very complex thing that includes confusion. It includes loss of the ability to remember sort of spatial references very similar to what we're seeing in dogs. Happens in people.
Anderson Cooper
This is half of a human brain.
Dr. Dirk Kean
This is half a human brain.
Anderson Cooper
That's the dog brain.
Dr. Dirk Kean
That's the dog brain.
Scott Pelley
Half a brain. Wow.
Anderson Cooper
Dr. Keen showed us how similar dogs brains are to humans.
Dr. Dirk Kean
You can see the dog brain has the same frontal lobe, temporal lobe, auxiliary,
Scott Pelley
same basic shape as the human brain.
Dr. Dirk Kean
Very, very similar.
Anderson Cooper
And it turns out dementia changes brain size and structure in very similar ways in both species.
Dr. Dirk Kean
This is a person in their 80s who was not demented. This is a person who was in their 70s who was demented. And so the most important sort of thing to notice is how much different in size they are. I'm going to let you hold this, if that's okay. So just grab on there.
Bill Whitaker
Yep.
Dr. Dirk Kean
You can sort of feel how much.
Scott Pelley
The weight difference between a healthy brain and an atrophied brain is stunning.
Anderson Cooper
As disease kills off neurons, the brain shrinks and the space in the middle cavity enlarges.
Scott Pelley
I mean, it looks like something has completely fallen out here.
Dr. Dirk Kean
Yeah, it's remarkable.
Scott Pelley
It's so depressing.
Anderson Cooper
Dementia in dogs also results in enlarged spaces and brain shrinkage. This is spring's brain under a microscope. Spring's brain, one of the first to be donated to the Dog Aging Project, shows beta amyloid plaques, a hallmark of Alzheimer's.
Dr. Dirk Kean
And this is a human brain, and
Anderson Cooper
it looks strikingly similar to the plaques in a human brain as well. Progress in preventing Alzheimer's and other forms of dementia, which will affect an estimated 40% of Americans over 55, has been slow. The Dog Aging Project hopes to change that by testing the drug rapamycin in my mice. It's been shown to slow cognitive decline and increase life expectancy by a remarkable 60%. That's led some longevity researchers and influencers to suggest rapamycin for human use to understand whether it might work in dogs. Julie Marano, a molecular biologist from Colorado State University, helped conduct a pilot study of 12 dogs, all with signs of dementia. 10 year old Qbert was among those given a placebo 13 year old monkey received rapamycin. After the dogs died, Moreno examined their brains and found that monkey's brain showed fewer microglial cells which produce inflammation commonly associated with dementia.
Julie Marano
So if you just kind of focus in on this side, you see quite a bit of those teal colored microglial cells and then if you look over here, you just see less. Right. Like there's just less number of them.
Anderson Cooper
Two other dogs receiving rapamycin, including Ralph, have since died. Their brains also showed fewer cells associated with inflammation.
Scott Pelley
So rapamycin, at least in this study, worked on dogs.
Pat Schultz
Yeah.
Scott Pelley
What do you think when you first saw this?
Julie Marano
I was super excited.
Anderson Cooper
You were?
Scott Pelley
What's your hope in doing this study?
Julie Marano
If it works in a dog and it's safe and it helping their cognition, then maybe it would help humans.
Anderson Cooper
The Dog Aging Project is now conducting a larger clinical trial funded in part by the National Institutes of Health, giving hundreds of dogs, including Murphy, either a placebo or rapamycin to see if the drug can extend life.
Celine Haliwa
The first ever longevity drug on the market.
Anderson Cooper
There are three other drugs being developed by the for profit company Loyal, a biotech startup founded in 2019 by 31 year old Celine Haliwa.
Celine Haliwa
Does she like how it tastes? My vision is that this is, you know, it's a daily beef flavored pill that are given preventatively to keep them healthier longer, similar to a statin, you know, for older Americans.
Scott Pelley
And you think it will actually help extend a dog's life?
Celine Haliwa
Yeah.
Scott Pelley
How long?
Celine Haliwa
Approximately one healthier year of life. Maybe it'll be more, maybe it'll be less.
Anderson Cooper
One of their drugs in a clinical trial is being given to dogs over the age of 10 who are monitored for signs of aging. The FDA has signed off on the drug's safety data and says it has a reasonable expectation of effectiveness. But final results from the trial won't be known for several years.
Scott Pelley
That extra year would be a healthier year than otherwise.
Celine Haliwa
An aging drug is about delaying and slowing the rate of decline that a dog or a human has over time to give them more healthier years. It's not something that you would give to a dog or a human on their deathbed to give them another year. It doesn't work like that.
Anderson Cooper
Silicon Valley is betting big on longevity. Haliwa's company has raised more than $250 million to bring its drugs to market.
Celine Haliwa
If we can achieve this, this is a massive multi billion dollar company. If we only do that, we're all happy. But oh, by the way, this also unlocks the possibility of us working on human longevity one day. I think going dogs first is the fastest way to work on and understand the biology of human aging.
Anderson Cooper
After a long struggle, Pat Schultz's husband, Bill died two years ago due to complications from Alzheimer's as part of the dog aging project. She won't know for another few years whether Murphy got the rapamycin or not. But for now, she told us she's simply focused on making sure they both age as best they can.
Scott Pelley
You've cared for a human with Alzheimer's. You're caring for a dog. In this study who, who is aging. What have you noticed in terms of similarities?
Pat Schultz
The thing I notice is that they both need to be loved and cared for. Just holding Bill's hand and patting his hand was enough just to decrease that anxiety, decrease that fear that, you know was there.
Scott Pelley
And that works with Murphy, too.
Pat Schultz
And that works with Murphy, too.
Child in Autotrader ad
Yep. Good boy, Ralph.
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What Ralph's life meant for science and his family.
Julie Marano
I mean, your pets are family too, right?
Judge Esther Salas
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Child in Autotrader ad
At a playground?
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Child in Autotrader ad
Wow, your search can really get that specific.
Stephanie McGrath
Really?
Child in Autotrader ad
And you just put in your info and boom. Cars in your budget.
Bob's Discount Furniture / Spectrum Business Announcer
Mom needs a second.
Child in Autotrader ad
Honey, you can really have it delivered.
Stephanie McGrath
Really? Or I can pick it up at the dealership.
Celine Haliwa
One sec, sweetie.
Leslie Stahl
Mommy's buying a car.
Child in Autotrader ad
Mommy, I think your kid is walking up the slide, Kyle.
Julie Marano
Again?
Celine Haliwa
Really?
Stephanie McGrath
Autotrader? Buy her car Online? Really?
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Episode Title: Under Siege, Turning The Ship Around, The Dog Aging Project
Host: CBS News / 60 Minutes Team
Air Date: June 8, 2026
This episode of 60 Minutes tackles three major, timely topics at the intersection of politics, industry, and science:
The episode blends first-person narratives, expert analysis, and ground-level reporting in classic 60 Minutes style—unflinching, detailed, and with a focus on the human story behind the headlines.
Hosted by: Bill Whitaker
Segment Start: [01:33]
A Surge in Threats:
Personal Stories from the Bench:
Judge John Kunauer (Reagan appointee) describes the reaction after blocking President Trump's attempt to end birthright citizenship, including death threats and a terrifying “swatting” incident:
“My wife and I are at home and the doorbell rings and I go to the door and there's, I think, five sheriff's deputies there with long rifles ... They said to me, sir, could we see your wife? ... we've had a report that you've murdered your wife.”
— Judge John Kunauer [06:08]
The threats were not isolated; bomb threats and being targeted on a congressman’s “wanted” poster followed.
Judiciary’s Response and Concerns:
Judges often feel “under siege” ([05:54]), most fearing for their safety to the point of declining on-camera interviews.
Retired Judge John Jones warns:
“If we're not careful, we're going to get a judge killed. It's just that stark.”
— Judge John Jones [09:32]
Judge Esther Salas—whose son was murdered in a targeted attack—remains outspoken, warning the situation “is only getting worse.”
"I feel like sometimes our political leaders are playing Russian roulette with our lives."
— Judge Esther Salas [12:25]
A “Volcano of Vitriol”:
Vicious voicemails played on air:
“I hope your whole family and everybody you love is raped in front of you and has their heads cut off.”
— Threat left for a judge [08:51]
“I wish somebody would assassinate your ass.”
— Another threat [09:01]
Many judges see a direct link between public attacks from political leaders and the threats they receive.
Delegitimization of the Judiciary:
“I would not concede that the Democratic Party or that Democratic officeholders have conducted themselves in any way that's similar to what this administration is doing... There's simply no evidence of that.”
— Judge John Jones [15:08]
“They're weaponizing Daniel's name to inflict fear on judges.”
— Judge Esther Salas [17:02]
Hosted by: Leslie Stahl
Segment Start: [20:53]
Industrial Decline:
Foreign Investment and Modernization:
Workforce Challenges:
“Instead of paying out of pocket to go to a trade school, you’re getting paid while you learn here.”
— Jeff, apprentice [24:50]
Productivity Gap and Economic Obstacles:
National Security Concerns:
The Jones Act:
“There aren’t any. ... If you want to build one of those ships in Asia, the cost is $260 million. Here in the United States, about a billion dollars.”
— Colin Graybaugh, trade expert [29:06]
Counterproductive Tariffs:
U.S. tariffs on imported steel (50%) raise costs for U.S. shipbuilders, even as domestic steel prices also rise ([30:24]).
“We're artificially increasing the cost of building ships in this country.”
— John Wertheim [30:24]
Immigration policy further restricts access to the skilled workers needed.
South Korean Aid?!
Should the U.S. buy ships from allies or regain shipbuilding strength?
“At the end of the day, shipbuilding is a national security necessity. The U.S. needs to be able to secure our own commerce.”
— David Kim, Hanwha Philly Shipyard [32:50]
Reflection on America’s Changing Status:
“We once deployed ships to save South Korea. Now we've been forced to turn to South Korea to save us.”
— Leslie Stahl [33:29]
White House Response:
Hosted by: Anderson Cooper
Segment Start: [36:03]
Why Study Dogs?
How the Project Works:
Refining Research Models:
Personal Stories — Science Meets Real Life:
“So as long as Murphy had that tracking collar on, I knew where Bill was.”
— Pat Schultz [40:11]
Findings So Far:
Rapamycin Clinical Trials:
Early studies show that the drug, which slows aging in mice, may reduce brain inflammation in dogs with dementia.
“So rapamycin, at least in this study, worked on dogs.”
— Scott Pelley [46:03]
Larger trials are underway, funded in part by the NIH.
Biotech’s Role:
“My vision is ... it's a daily beef flavored pill that are given preventatively to keep them healthier longer, similar to a statin.”
— Celine Haliwa, Loyal CEO [46:46] “Approximately one healthier year of life.”
— Celine Haliwa [47:02]
Dogs as Family and Data Source:
“The thing I notice is that they both need to be loved and cared for.”
— Pat Schultz, on caring for aging husband and dog [48:38]
A Hopeful Future:
This episode features candid, sometimes emotional exchanges. Judges speak with a mix of weariness and resolve; industry insiders express both frustration and hope; scientists and dog owners blend optimism about the future with poignant personal reflections.
In classic 60 Minutes form, this episode brings together national headlines, policy analysis, and personal human stories. The rise in threats to judges is not just a legal problem but a crisis for democracy. The shipbuilding segment illustrates the pitfalls of neglecting industrial capacity while highlighting efforts—led by international partners—to recover. Finally, the Dog Aging Project offers hope, showing how science, dogs, and human experience might together unlock longer, healthier lives for all.
For a deeper dive, listeners can explore additional resources at 60minutesovertime.com.