
Hosted by Ben Klutsey · ENGLISH

Professor Molly Worthen wrote one of the most interesting books I've read. In this episode, we discuss her book, Spellbound, and her surprising argument that charisma isn't so much about charm or power. It's the ability to tell a story people want to live in. We unpack how different leaders build followings, why America is uniquely fertile ground for charismatic movements, and what kind of charisma can create a more resilient future. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.benklutsey.com

In this very first episode, constitutional scholar Jeff Rosen joins the podcast to discuss his new book, The Pursuit of Liberty, the enduring disagreements between Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson, and how their competing visions of government have shaped 250 years of American history, constitutional interpretation, supreme court justices, presidential powers, and civil discourse. Together, we learn why America's resilience has depended not on consensus, but on institutions capable of absorbing disagreement while preserving liberty. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.benklutsey.com