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CJ
Foreign.
Shelby
Hey, this is Shelby and CJ. We're in First Samuel, chapters 19 through 21. CJ let's jump in. What's happening in these chapters?
CJ
All right, so if. Remember, Saul is now afraid of David because David's such a successful warrior and he's gaining so many accolades and so much popularity. So he decides that he's going to try to take. Take David out. But Jonathan, Saul's son, cares so deeply for David at this point that he warns David, and David escapes. And then Saul tries to kill David again. But David's wife, who's Saul's daughter, lets him down through a window and says, david, you gotta run away. My dad wants to kill you. And she does the classic pillow in the bed trick to pretend like David's really in the bed. So Saul, he just really wants to take David out because he's so shook up.
Shelby
Yeah. At this point, it seems like Saul's family cares more about David than they do Saul himself. Is that correct?
CJ
Yeah. And I think this is to show that David was highly favored in the sense that God is clearly blessing David. God has clearly anointed David to be the next king. So I think people are recognizing it, or at least that's sort of the feeling that we're supposed to be getting. So much so that in these chapters, Jonathan makes a cut covenant with David. And Jonathan says, no matter what, I'm on your side. And David says, no matter what, I'll look out for your family. Which is going to become key later on as we. As we work our way through the books of Samuel.
Shelby
Yeah, yeah. And then David does something really interesting to follow in these chapters.
CJ
Yeah, he does. So he's on the run. He's running from Saul, and he goes to the tabernacle and he says, I need some food. I'm. I'm hungry. But. But all they have at the tabernacle is the consecrated bread, which is only for the priests. But the priests say, well, here you go. If you're. If you're hungry, here you are. And David says, yeah, I'm hungry. So he ends up eating some of the bread. And this is actually kind of a spoiler. But one of Saul's little minions witnesses this, and it's going to cause a whole other subplot that we're going to see in tomorrow's episode. But regardless, in the Gospels, Jesus actually refers to this episode in Mark 2, where the Pharisees claim that Jesus is breaking the Sabbath for picking heads of grain and chewing on them and feeding himself and Jesus says, well, you guys remember what David did? Like, he was hungry and he went and got some bread. Are you saying that I can't do the same? So it's actually kind of just an interesting connection to see with Christ there.
Shelby
Yeah, yeah, it actually is an interesting. I didn't know that. That's a really interesting connection. Okay, so we made that connection across those. Do we see Christ in these chapters in First Samuel?
CJ
I think we do. So we see Jonathan choosing David over his own family. And interestingly enough, Jesus asks us to do the same, but of him. So if you remember, the question is put to him, like. Or something like this. I'm kind of going off memory here, but it's like, your mother's here to speak to you. And he's like, who's my mother? Who's my family? My family are essentially the people in front of me, my disciples, and those who do the will of God. And another place in the Gospels, he says, whoever does not hate his family, that is considered them less than me, is not worthy to be. To be part of me or to belong to me. So I think Christ is sort of calling us to do the same. In the same way that people recognize that David was anointed and that God's hand was on him. The idea is that we would see the same when we look at Christ and that we would give up everything to follow Christ.
Shelby
Wow. Thank you for breaking that down. That's really powerful. I think one takeaway that I have in. If you've ever read the Bible chronologically, then you'll know that there's some psalms woven throughout first and Second Samuel as they were written at the time. And so actually, Psalm 34, we know, was written in during, like, chapter 21, during that period of David's life where he's on the run. And I just want to read verse 4 and 5 of Psalm 34. It says, I sought the Lord and he answered me, and he rescued me from all my fears. Those who look to him are radiant with joy, and their faces will never be ashamed. Those are probably familiar verses in the Psalms for us. But when you put that in the context that David penned those words as he feared for his life, really, the sufficiency of the Lord to be all we need is highlighted in that. And so that's gotta be a takeaway for me, specifically in these chapters. And we've got so much more to learn about David and his life in First Samuel Song. We'll continue on tomorrow.
CJ
Yep.
Date: March 25, 2026
Hosts: Shelby and CJ
In this episode, Shelby and CJ discuss 1 Samuel chapters 19 through 21, focusing on David’s escalating conflict with King Saul, Jonathan and Michal’s loyalty, and David’s flight for survival. The conversation draws out the deep biblical connections between these narratives, the Psalms, and the teachings of Christ, reflecting on God’s faithfulness and the cost of obedience.
“Psalm 34, we know, was written in during, like, chapter 21, during that period of David's life where he's on the run. And I just want to read verse 4 and 5 of Psalm 34:
I sought the Lord and he answered me, and he rescued me from all my fears. Those who look to him are radiant with joy, and their faces will never be ashamed.” (03:49)