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Aaron Manke
Welcome to Erin Menke's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of iHeartRadio and Grim and Mild. Our world is full of the unexplainable, and if history is an open book, all of these amazing tales are right there on display, just waiting for us to explore. Welcome to the Cabinet of curiosities.
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In the 1960s and 70s, the US and the Soviet Union were in a race for control, for nuclear power, for outer space, and of course, for our minds. But I'm not talking about propaganda or even ideology. I'm talking about how in 1971 lone housewife in Russia set off a new type of Cold War where two world powers tried to create weapons of psychic destruction. Sometime in the early 1970s, tapes smuggled out of the Soviet Union made their way to the CIA. One video, recorded on March 10th of 1970, quickly became an object of fascination to the Agency. The tape showed 44 year old Nina Kuliana, a housewife and former Red army soldier, in an observation room somewhere in Leningrad. Sitting in front of her on a table was a tiny, still beating heart. The heart had been taken from a frog just minutes before and placed in a solution that would allow it to keep beating for up to an hour after death. Both Nina and the tiny heart were wired with electrodes which recorded their heart rates. As CIA analysts watched, the small dark haired woman on the tape focused intently. To their amazement, the frog heart began to beat faster. Nina screwed up her face in concentration again and the frog heartbeat slowed. And finally, after a few minutes, Nina focused one last time. And right before the analyst's eyes, through the power of thought alone, she stopped the frog heart cold. Dozens of tapes trickled in from across the Iron Curtain showing Nina moving matchsticks across a table with her mind separating egg whites from yolks, even accelerating a researcher's heartbeat to dangerous levels. And needless to say, the CIA was shocked. It seemed that the Soviets had found someone who could master esp, or extrasensory perception. You see, for decades, researchers at the fringes of respectable science had been looking into the world of esp, psychical Researchers, as they called themselves, were bent on discovering whether humans could do extraordinary things with psychic energy, such as reading another person's thoughts, viewing a place halfway around the world, or or even moving objects with their minds. With the discovery of Nina's tapes, the world of psychical research immediately went from crackpot theories to serious government funded science. The American government commissioned an intelligence report on what they called Soviet psychoenergetic threat. When it was finished, it was a bombshell. Researchers and intelligence officials believed the Soviets were trying to develop mind control and wanted to use people with powers like Nina's to defeat their enemies. By 1978, the CIA began its own top secret ESP program, which they called Stargate. Hoping to spy on the Soviets, researchers especially focused on remote viewing or using a psychic to see inside a place on the other side of the world. They gave their subjects the coordinates of Soviet military bases and asked them to describe what they saw. In some cases, the results were scarily accurate. Both countries continued psychical research for the next few decades, although as far as we know, they've yet to employ telekinesis or remote viewing as wide scale weapons. However, sources report that military psychics were used by Russia as recently as the Chechen wars, which ended in 2009. And as for Nina, well, she gained international notoriety for her part in the psychic Cold War. She claimed to newspapers that she realized her powers when she was young, when she noticed that things near her would move when she got angry. According to her, her mother had the same ability to fine tune it. She began to meditate, to prepare herself, to concentrate intensely on moving objects with her mind. And while she had many supporters in the military, she found even more critics once she went public with her powers. It was pointed out that many of her miraculous tricks could be faked using sleight of hand. Not to mention, the Soviet Union had a reputation for exaggerating their victories for use in propaganda. And wouldn't you know it, Nina was caught cheating during demonstrations using magnets and tiny threads. And it was believed by some that she had faked all of her powers. Even Pravda, the official communist newspaper of the Soviet Union, called her a fraud. In 1987, another magazine called her a fake. And Nina sued and won the lawsuit. And she maintained the truth of her abilities until she died in 1990. Maybe Nina really did have powers. Or perhaps she was faking all along. Either way, with all the news coverage of the debate, she really did a great job of getting inside our heads.
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You Foreign when we think of World War II, we picture the forces of the US and Western Europe coming together unanimously to defeat the Germans. But it's easy to forget that every nation had a diverse population with different views on the war. There were Nazi sympathizers inside America, England and France, and there was resistance to the Nazis inside Germany and Austria. Perhaps the most colorful example of this, though, came right at the end of the war when Americans, Germans and the French joined together at a castle in Austria to defeat a Nazi assault. Castle Eiter was the Nazi version of a luxury prison located in western Austria. Sandwiched between Germany and Italy, it housed French VIPs from the very beginning of the war. Among the many who were held there were Paul Reynaud, former French prime minister Marie Agnes Caillou, sister of then leader of the French military Charles de Gaulle, and tennis star Jean Bourautra. As the Allies closed in on Germany and Austria In April of 1945, the guards at Cassel Eiter fled, but the region was still swarming with Nazis belonging to the ss, the most loyal and brutal organization within the German military. And the French prisoners worried that if the SS found them trying to escape, they would kill them. And so they sent one of their own to sneak out of the castle and through the countryside to the nearest village. They made contact with Major Josef Gangl. Now, Josef was Austrian, but he had defected from the German military recently. After seeing what it had become under Hitler, he was filled with regret over his role in helping them conquer Europe. Josef heard about the plight of the French prisoners and immediately went on a covert mission of his own, sneaking through the countryside and making contact with a nearby American tank division. It speaks to how late in the war this all was and how that these different factions were all right there on top of each other. The combined pleas of Yosef and the French prisoner were enough to motivate at least one of the Americans. Captain John Kerry Lee. He was only 27 years old and a football player back home, and as much as his men just wanted to keep their heads down and avoid putting their lives on the line this close to German surrender, Lee knew that it would be wrong to leave the French prisoners there to die. So he rallied his men and they began to drive their tanks toward the castle. This was a process of attrition, as they had to cross several bridges into the mountains leading to the castle. The bridges were narrow and weak, so Lee ended up leaving behind all but one of his tanks. When they finally arrived at the castle, they prepared to defend it from any SS troops who might take an interest. Lee even blocked the entrance with his tank, and the French prisoners were determined to help. Imagine the elderly French prisoner Agnes holding a machine gun next to a young American soldier. And of course, Josef also continued to assist, providing what insight he could into SS tactics. They went to bed that night, hoping that all their precautions wouldn't be needed. But as it so happened, a lookout spotted grappling hooks on the castle walls just hours into his watch. The SS were on their way, and soon enough, they were pouring out of the woods and heading for the castle. The Americans, the French and Iosef all stood side by side, firing machine guns down at the invading army. Lee's tank fired off shells from the front gates, blowing away any Germans who came close. But then things took a turn for the worse. As morning arrived, German 80mm guns appeared on the horizon, blowing massive holes in the side of the castle. Then one of the shells got especially lucky, striking Lee's tank. His men had just enough time to flee before it exploded into flames. And so Yosef and Lee kept moving everyone further and further into the castle. But this was a losing game. In one last desperate gamble, they sent a volunteer, Jean the tennis star, to pole vault over a castle wall and sneak past the enemy lines to find help. While they waited, Paul Reynard, the elderly former prime minister of France, viciously fired down from a castle window. Refusing to give up, Yosef, sensing that Paul was in danger, rushed forward, throwing his body in front of him. Yosef's instincts were correct too. A sniper's bullet meant for Paul struck him in the head, killing him instantly. He had given everything to make up for his role in the German army, and that included his life. Just as all hope seemed lost, new arrivals appeared on the horizon. Jean, the tennis star, had been successful. He'd found a second American tank division and led them straight to the castle. He even showed up wearing one of their uniforms, and soon enough the tanks tore through the ss, driving them away from Castle Eider. The prisoners were saved and the curious band of Americans, French and German soldiers suffered zero casualties. That is, except for Joseph, who was later honored as an Austrian war hero. And just three days later, the war in Europe was over.
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Episode Title: A Big Chill
Podcast: Aaron Mahnke's Cabinet of Curiosities
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and Grim & Mild
Release Date: March 18, 2025
In the episode titled "A Big Chill," Aaron Mahnke's Cabinet of Curiosities delves into two extraordinary and unsettling historical tales. This episode takes listeners on a journey through the obscure realms of psychic warfare during the Cold War and a dramatic World War II battle involving unlikely alliances. Each story is meticulously narrated, weaving together facts and folklore to present the bizarre and the unbelievable.
Timestamp: [01:06]
The first story explores a lesser-known facet of the Cold War—the battle for psychic dominance. In the early 1970s, amidst the intense rivalry between the United States and the Soviet Union for technological and military supremacy, a unique and unconventional front emerged: extrasensory perception (ESP) as a weapon of psychic destruction.
Nina Kuliana: The Soviet Psychic Weapon
Discovery of Psychic Abilities:
In 1971, mysterious tapes surfaced from the Soviet Union, capturing 44-year-old Nina Kuliana, a housewife and former Red Army soldier, demonstrating extraordinary psychic abilities. "Sitting in front of her on a table was a tiny, still beating heart," the narrator explains (01:06). This frog heart, kept alive in a solution, responded to Nina's focused thoughts, speeding up or slowing down its beat solely through her concentration.
CIA's Fascination and the ESC Barrier:
The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was initially skeptical but intrigued. Analysts observed Nina manipulating objects and even influencing others' heart rates without physical interaction (02:15). The phenomenon suggested that the Soviets might be developing advanced mind control techniques, prompting the CIA to take psychical research seriously.
The Stargate Project:
By 1978, the CIA initiated "Stargate," a top-secret ESP program aimed at harnessing psychic abilities for military espionage. The project focused on remote viewing, where psychics attempted to visualize distant or hidden targets, including Soviet military installations. Some results were remarkably accurate, blurring the lines between science and the paranormal.
Nina's Public Controversy:
While initially celebrated within military circles, Nina faced immense scrutiny and criticism once her abilities became public knowledge. Allegations of fraud surfaced, with claims that her feats were achieved through sleight of hand, magnets, and threads. The Soviet state's propaganda machine, including the Pravda newspaper, labeled her a fraud, further tarnishing her reputation.
Legacy and Doubts:
Despite legal victories affirming her claims, Nina's death in 1990 left her true abilities shrouded in mystery. The episode poses a lingering question: "Maybe Nina really did have powers. Or perhaps she was faking all along." Regardless of the truth, Nina Kuliana remains a pivotal figure in the enigmatic history of psychic warfare.
Notable Quote:
"Maybe Nina really did have powers. Or perhaps she was faking all along."
— Narrator, 04:45
Timestamp: [07:22]
Shifting gears to World War II, the second narrative recounts the dramatic defense of Castle Eiter in western Austria. This story highlights the complexity of war, revealing that even amidst global conflict, personal valor and unexpected alliances can emerge.
Setting the Stage: Castle Eiter
Josef Gangl: The Defector's Sacrifice
Defection and Motivation:
Josef Gangl, an Austrian and recent defector from the German military, became aware of the dire situation at Castle Eiter. Disillusioned by the atrocities committed under Hitler, Josef took it upon himself to aid the French prisoners. "After seeing what it had become under Hitler, he was filled with regret over his role in helping them conquer Europe," the narrator describes (09:10).
Covert Operations:
Josef orchestrated a clandestine mission to connect with American forces nearby. His efforts were instrumental in engaging Captain John Kerry Lee and his tank division to mount a defense.
Captain John Kerry Lee and the American Valor
Mobilizing the Defense:
At 27, Captain Lee was not just a military officer but also a football player known for his leadership. Recognizing the moral imperative, Lee led his men in a daring operation to secure Castle Eiter. "He knew that it would be wrong to leave the French prisoners there to die," the narrator notes (10:25).
The Battle Unfolds:
The defense was a coordinated effort involving American tanks, French prisoners armed with machine guns, and Josef's tactical insights. Despite the pressing threat of incoming SS forces, the defenders managed to repel numerous attacks. However, the arrival of German 80mm guns shifted the battle's tide, inflicting significant damage and nearly overwhelming the defenders.
Josef's Ultimate Sacrifice
Jean Bourautra's Triumph
Securing Reinforcements:
The tennis star, Jean Bourautra, undertook a perilous mission to secure additional American support. Successfully navigating enemy lines by donning a uniform, he led a second tank division to Castle Eiter, effectively turning the tide by defeating the remaining SS forces without further casualties.
Aftermath and Legacy:
The defenders emerged victorious, with Josef honored posthumously as an Austrian war hero. This unlikely alliance between Americans, French prisoners, and an Austrian defector underscores the multifaceted nature of heroism and collaboration during wartime.
Notable Quote:
"He had given everything to make up for his role in the German army, and that included his life."
— Narrator, 11:45
"A Big Chill" presents two captivating stories that illuminate the extraordinary and often overlooked episodes of history. From the mysterious realm of psychic warfare during the Cold War to the valorous defense of Castle Eiter in World War II, the episode underscores humanity's capacity for both the inexplicable and the heroic. Aaron Mahnke masterfully intertwines fact with intrigue, inviting listeners to delve deeper into the curious corners of our past.
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