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Aaron Mahnke
Hey folks, Aaron here. I'm thrilled to bring to your ears a bonus episode from my newest audiobook, Cabinets of Curiosities. This audiobook isn't just a treasure trove of stories from the podcast, though, which many of you have enjoyed, but it also includes new tales never before shared. Plus, the audiobook also features an exclusive series of conversations between me and fellow history podcaster and author Dana Schwartz from the show Noble Blood. In our conversations, we dive deep into the process of researching and crafting these stories, share our own personal perspectives on storytelling, and discuss why certain stories from the Cabinet of Curiosities stand out to us. To whet your appetite for the full audiobook experience, I'm pleased to share a preview of one of the stories along with a bit of our behind the scenes discussion right now, so kick back and enjoy.
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Pony Up. Its legacy is as American as baseball and apple pie. Its riders were fast, famous and fearless. It has been the subject of over a dozen films and television shows, and it became the foundation of one of the largest banks in the world. When it came to speed and reliability in the 1860s, you couldn't beat the Pony Express. As California began to boom from the Gold Rush, business owners and settlers needed a faster way to communicate with folks farther east. At the time, letters and packages took roughly 25 days to travel by stagecoach, even longer if going by ship. The Pony Express more than halved that time, with an average delivery window of about 10 days. Not everyone used the Pony Express, though. It was really expensive for the average person to send a letter at $5 per half ounce of mail, the service was primarily used as a delivery method for newspapers, business correspondents, and government bulletins. Gold Rush hopefuls just couldn't afford the speedy service, and speedy it was. Ten days may have been the average time it took to deliver a letter, but it certainly wasn't the fastest. That record belonged to Robert Haslam. He earned the nickname Pony Bob for a very good reason. He was responsible for the fastest delivery in Pony Express history. Bob had come to the United States from England as a teenager just as the Pony Express was getting up and running. He'd gotten his start by building depot stations, but was soon given a route of his own from Lake Tahoe to buckland Station, a 75 mile stretch of Nevada Territory all his own. In May of 1860. With his deliveries in tow, Bob traveled on horseback from San Francisco to Buckland Station, where he got a taste of a growing war. Not the Civil War, mind you, but one that must have seemed equally as terrifying. The Pyramid Lake Indian war had found its way to Buckland Station in a bad way. The relief rider who was supposed to carry Bob's mail east to Smith's Creek was too scared to ride due to the growing Native American threat. Bob couldn't let the letters he'd been carrying go undelivered. He had a decision to make and quick or his trip would have been for nothing. So he mounted up and kept going. 190 miles on horseback in just under nine hours without rest. And he made it. Bob slept all night before traveling back to Buckland Station the next day. Once he reached the depot at Cold Springs, he noticed the war had finally arrived. The station keeper had been killed and everything inside had been taken. There was no time to stop. The longer he lingered, the more danger he was putting himself in. So he just kept going. 380 miles later, Ponybob had done it. He'd completed the longest round trip on record for the Pony Express in less than two days. Bob Haslem rode for the Pony Express for months following his record breaking journey. But the most important ride of his life was still yet to come. In April of 1861, a very special delivery had to get from Fort Kearney in the Nebraska Territory all the way to Placerville, California. If it didn't make it, the fate of the entire country might be at risk. And only one rider was fit to carry such precious cargo. Pony Bob himself. He picked up the bundle, tucked it into his saddlebag and rode for 120 miles. His route took him through Paiute Indian territory, and as he traveled, he encountered a handful of braves who didn't take kindly to him trespassing on their land. One of their arrows found its way into his arm, while another flew straight into his jaw, knocking out several of his teeth. The attack didn't deter him though, and his horse galloped faster until they were out of danger.
Aaron Mahnke
He made it to California in just.
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8 hours and 20 minutes and then delivered his package. You see, that precious cargo he'd been carrying had been Abraham Lincoln's inaugural address, which was to be telegraphed to Sacramento for publication up and down the West Coast. And if Bob hadn't made it in time, California might have chosen to side with the Confederacy at the start of the Civil War. What's most interesting about the Pony Express isn't the roster of riders like Pony Bob Haslam or Buffalo Bill Cody, nor the blistering speed with which mail was delivered across the country. It wasn't even the dangerous conditions its riders faced like mounting threats from The Native Americans or the harsh weather? No, it's that this company, which has such an enduring legacy as an icon of American industry, existed for only 18 months.
Dana Schwartz
I hope you've enjoyed this first gallery in our exhibit of curiosities. I've loved revisiting each of these wonders, but no curator works alone. So I've invited my friend and fellow story steward, Dana Schwartz to join us for some special bonus conversations after each category in the collect. Welcome, Dana.
Thank you so much for having me, Erin. It is so much fun a to explore these treasures and also just to be chatting with you. I am so excited to discuss some of my favorites with you. So want to start with Pony Up?
Absolutely. Let's do it.
Okay, so something like the Pony Express, which has such an enduring legacy in America. I feel like this outsized, like, pop culture effect, it's insane to discover that it was, in fact, so short lived. In your research, do you often find certain events or characters that have left disproportionate footprints?
Yeah, it's very common. I feel like so many of the stories that are part of the Cabinet of Curiosities are. They're the kind of tales that hinge on a snap decision or a chance encounter. You know, something that's. It's seconds long. It's just. It took somebody a heartbeat to think, I'm gonna go this direction instead of that direction. And those kind of choices often change history. They certainly change the lives of the people who are making them. But so many of the stories that we tell often come down to those little insignificant moments. And I think that's what gives them power. It shows that for this brief moment in time, anybody can be historically significant, which I love.
What is it about the Pony Express specifically that you think captured the American imagination?
Well, you know, I think that we've got this western mythology at play. People jump on horseback and they ride around in the wilderness, the wide open expanse of the west of America. And it feeds into that romanticism a lot.
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Also.
Dana Schwartz
There's just the utility of it, and there's a human endurance element to it as well, like the fact that they rode so far and so fast. It boggles the mind. And again, it was only in existence for such a short time, but yet in our mind, we think it was this longstanding, ongoing tradition.
Yeah, the way that information travels has changed pretty drastically since the days of the Pony Express. Since you study folklore and history and stories that have traveled over time, does the way that information travels influence the way that you think about stories in this book.
It does. I don't know how you work for your show, but I tend to see the older the story, the more caution I have to take in the relay of detail and information. You know, it's the telephone game, right? It's the game we all grew up playing. Whisper a phrase into somebody's ear and then they turn to the next person and the next person. And by the time you get to the end of the chain, you see that it's altered in some way. And you know, the older stories have that element, that time and distance from the origin point have altered the tale a little bit. So you have to go on with a bit of caution, a little skepticism. Of course, modern technology today has sort of eliminated that. And there are some cultures that were a lot more like paper record oriented than other cultures as well, and that comes into play. But yeah, we live in a very evolving world of information transportation.
But luckily today we never have to deal with the problem of misinformation.
No, no, it never happens at all.
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And there you go.
Aaron Mahnke
Thanks so much for tuning in and letting me share that with you. If you're eager to hear the full Cabinet of Curiosities audiobook, it's available on leading platforms like Audible, Apple Books, and wherever else audiobooks are found. Thanks for helping make this book launch a big success and for letting me tell you these stories. And until next time, stay curious.
Episode Release Date: November 27, 2024
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In the exclusive bonus episode of "Aaron Mahnke's Cabinet of Curiosities," host Aaron Mahnke unveils a special preview from his newly released audiobook, "Cabinets of Curiosities." This audiobook not only compiles beloved stories from the popular podcast but also introduces fresh, never-before-shared tales. Additionally, listeners are treated to unique conversations between Aaron and fellow history podcaster and author, Dana Schwartz from the show "Noble Blood." These discussions delve into the intricate process of researching and crafting the captivating stories featured in the audiobook.
"I'm thrilled to bring to your ears a bonus episode from my newest audiobook, Cabinets of Curiosities."
— Aaron Mahnke 00:01
The episode features a compelling narrative titled "Pony Up," which chronicles the legendary Pony Express—a symbol of American ingenuity and resilience.
Summary of "Pony Up":
The Pony Express, operational in the 1860s, revolutionized communication during the California Gold Rush by significantly reducing mail delivery times from the East to the West Coast. While traditional stagecoach deliveries took approximately 25 days, the Pony Express accomplished the feat in about 10 days, albeit at a steep cost of $5 per half ounce of mail, limiting its use to newspapers, government bulletins, and business correspondences.
A standout figure in this saga is Robert "Pony Bob" Haslam, an English immigrant who became renowned for his record-breaking deliveries. In May 1860, amidst the tense backdrop of the Pyramid Lake Indian War, Bob undertook a perilous 190-mile journey from San Francisco to Buckland Station in Nevada Territory without rest, navigating through hostile territories and overcoming significant personal injury. His determination culminated in completing a staggering 380-mile round trip in under two days, setting an unprecedented record for the Pony Express.
The narrative reaches its climax in April 1861, where Bob is entrusted with delivering Abraham Lincoln's inaugural address from Fort Kearney to Placerville, California. This critical delivery, completed in just 8 hours and 20 minutes despite severe injuries from an attack, ensured the timely dissemination of Lincoln's message and potentially influenced California's stance during the Civil War.
"He rode for the Pony Express for months following his record breaking journey. But the most important ride of his life was still yet to come."
— Narrator 05:10
"If Bob hadn't made it in time, California might have chosen to side with the Confederacy at the start of the Civil War."
— Narrator 05:10
This story not only highlights the extraordinary efforts of the Pony Express riders but also underscores the fleeting existence of this iconic enterprise, which operated for merely 18 months yet left an indelible mark on American history.
Following the enthralling tale of the Pony Express, Aaron Mahnke engages in an insightful discussion with Dana Schwartz, exploring the broader implications of storytelling and historical legacy.
Dana Schwartz reflects on the disproportionate impact certain historical events and figures have on collective memory. She emphasizes how pivotal, often split-second decisions can elevate ordinary individuals to legendary status.
"So many of the stories that are part of the Cabinet of Curiosities are... the kind of tales that hinge on a snap decision or a chance encounter."
— Dana Schwartz 07:02
Schwartz attributes the Pony Express's lasting allure to its embodiment of Western mythology—spanning vast, untamed landscapes, horseback adventures, and the sheer endurance of the riders. She notes that despite its brief operational period, the Pony Express has become a romanticized symbol of American determination and ingenuity.
"I think that we've got this western mythology at play... the utility of it, and there's a human endurance element to it as well."
— Dana Schwartz 07:50
The conversation then shifts to the impact of evolving communication methods on storytelling. Schwartz draws parallels between historical methods of information relay, like the Pony Express, and modern digital communication, highlighting how the medium can influence the narrative's integrity and reception.
"It's the telephone game, right?... by the time you get to the end of the chain, you see that it's altered in some way."
— Dana Schwartz 08:44
She underscores the importance of critical evaluation of historical narratives, acknowledging that stories passed down through generations often undergo transformations, much like the infamous childhood game where messages become distorted as they are whispered from person to person.
"The older the story, the more caution I have to take in the relay of detail and information."
— Dana Schwartz 07:02
Schwartz also touches upon the challenges posed by misinformation in the digital age, albeit playfully noting its occasional elusiveness.
"But luckily today we never have to deal with the problem of misinformation. No, no, it never happens at all."
— Dana Schwartz 09:43
Aaron Mahnke wraps up the episode by inviting listeners to explore the full "Cabinets of Curiosities" audiobook, available on major platforms like Audible and Apple Books. He expresses gratitude to the audience for their support and encourages them to continue embracing their curiosity.
"Thanks for helping make this book launch a big success and for letting me tell you these stories. And until next time, stay curious."
— Aaron Mahnke 09:54
This episode serves as a tantalizing glimpse into the rich narratives and thoughtful discussions that listeners can expect from "Aaron Mahnke's Cabinet of Curiosities" audiobook. By blending gripping historical tales with reflective conversations, the audiobook promises to be a compelling addition to the fans of the original podcast and newcomers alike.