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Welcome to Erin Menke's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of iHeartRadio and Grim and mild.
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Our world is full of the unexplainable, and if history is an open book, all of these amazing tales are right there on display, just waiting for us to explore. Welcome to the Cabinet of Curiosities.
Erin Menke
I have this idea. Art is a lot like Isaac Newton's third law of Motion. Just hear me out for a second. As the law states, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The forces of motion push and pull at each other. And in the same way, artistic movements exist in tension with themselves. You cannot have modernism without postmodernism as an essential counterbalancing force. And in that regard, consider the historical significance of art in relation to totalitarianism. Every time a state uses art as a means of control, oppression or propaganda, they cannot fully contain how that will reverberate in the greater artistic world. Oppressive art can birth art that is in its very form, an expression of rebellion. In 1934, Maxim Gorky proposed an artistic philosophy that would become known as Socialist Realism as an artistic expression of the new Soviet Union. The works in this field would celebrate the state and the party for the people. It was supposed to be a movement, but it would become a doctrine. The form of the work became the way in which the art was supposed to look in Soviet Russia, and naturally it provoked a response. The generation that came later birthed the so called Sixtiers, artists, writers and thinkers who came to prominence in the 1960s. Their work actively defied socialist realism in form and content. Many of these artists were socialist politically, but had become disillusioned with life in the ussr. Their interpretation of left wing values was not strict adherence to the Communist party line, it was an artistic expression. Enter Ala Horska. She was the Ukrainian daughter of a Soviet film executive and she would grow to resent the repressive politics of Stalin's Russia. She started painting when she was young, earning praise and recognition for realistic works. But ultimately she grew away from the style, growing increasingly fond of Traditional Ukrainian art. Her later works favored bold colors and abstract fantastical designs. Work that was in direct defiance of Soviet realism. In Kiev, she freely experimented with mediums. Paints, murals, stained glass windows, you name it. Her apartment became a popular meeting place for 60 year gatherings. By the mid-1960s, the KGB was keeping tabs on all of these artists. Their work was defiant in spirit as well as in form. One of Alla Horska's early stained glass windows was destroyed before it could be exhibited for the way that it depicted Mother Ukraine as a sorrowful presence under the yoke of Russia. Her phone would be tapped and many of her friends arrested or killed. Horska's work for the Ukrainian underground had only just begun. She provided shelter to enemies of the ussr, attended anti government protests, supported her colleagues who had been sent to labor camps, and all of this while continuing to produce bold artwork that celebrated the unique culture of Ukraine. Horska, however, didn't escape persecution for long. In 1970, she vanished without a trace. Her body was later found in her father in law's cellar. Her father in law, meanwhile, had been found dead on some nearby railroad tracks. It was supposed to look like a suicide after he had killed her. But everyone knew the truth. This was the KGB attempting to silence a public opponent. But if the intent was to silence her, it was ineffective. Her funeral later that December turned into a massive protest against the communist regime, and her name joined the ranks of martyrs for the cause of Ukrainian liberty. And then there's her artwork. Those murals, paintings and portraits, they outlived the ussr, and many still remain in treasured museum collections all across Ukraine. Their value comes from the indomitable voice. She represented someone who fought for persecuted people with every tool she had available to her. Art is a curious thing. It is inherently political, no matter how escapist it aspires to be. Art exists as an expression of culture, and culture is a cumulative thing, something that can't be forced onto a nation against the will of its people. And Russia today clearly realizes this, as during the war in Ukraine, several of a la Horska's pieces have been destroyed by invading forces. But it's 2025 and artistic practice exists farther than just one physical space. Destroying Horska's murals does not erase them from cultural memory or the digital copies taken by people who have seen them. Art is as ephemeral as an emotion, and both are indestructible.
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Aaron Manke
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Aaron Mahnke's Cabinet of Curiosities: Episode Summary – "Mural High Ground"
Release Date: June 10, 2025
Hosted by Erin Menke and Aaron Mahnke
Produced by iHeartPodcasts and Grim & Mild
In the "Mural High Ground" episode of Aaron Mahnke's Cabinet of Curiosities, host Erin Menke and Aaron Mahnke delve into two captivating tales that intertwine art, politics, and historical intrigue. The episode seamlessly blends storytelling with historical analysis, offering listeners a rich exploration of lesser-known yet impactful events.
Exploring Art Under Totalitarianism
Erin Menke opens the first narrative by likening artistic movements to Isaac Newton's third law of motion, emphasizing the inherent tension and counterbalancing forces within art evolution. She states, “Art is a lot like Isaac Newton's third law of Motion... artistic movements exist in tension with themselves” (01:10).
Socialist Realism and Its Discontents
The discussion shifts to the Soviet Union's adoption of Socialist Realism, an artistic doctrine proposed by Maxim Gorky in 1934. This movement was intended to celebrate the state and the party through art but soon became a restrictive doctrine that stifled creative expression.
Ala Horska: A Beacon of Defiance
Enter Ala Horska, a Ukrainian artist whose journey epitomizes resistance through art. Initially praised for her realistic works, Horska transitioned to Traditional Ukrainian art, embracing bold colors and abstract designs that directly opposed Soviet realism. Erin highlights her impact: “Her apartment became a popular meeting place for 60-year gatherings” (03:30).
Persecution and Legacy
Horska's defiance did not go unnoticed by the KGB. Her stained glass window depicting a sorrowful Mother Ukraine led to increased surveillance and eventual persecution. In 1970, Ala Horska vanished, and it was later revealed that she was silenced by the KGB. Her tragic death ignited massive protests, solidifying her status as a martyr for Ukrainian liberty.
Art as an Enduring Voice
Erin concludes this segment by reflecting on the resilience of art: “Art is as ephemeral as an emotion, and both are indestructible” (04:50). Despite attempts to erase her work, Ala Horska's murals and paintings continue to inspire and reside in Ukrainian museum collections, embodying the unyielding spirit of cultural resistance.
A Fictional Yet Intriguing Take on a Historical Event
The second tale transports listeners to the morning of December 7, 1941, reimagining the infamous attack on Pearl Harbor through a personal narrative. Tommy Tomberland, a civilian pilot, finds himself in the sky amidst chaos.
The Aerial Assault
As Tommy and his student, Jimmy Duncan, navigate the skies under favorable conditions, they witness an unexpected and violent assault. Erin narrates the tension: “Two bright red lines streak toward him... someone was shooting at them” (07:15).
Desperate Maneuvers for Survival
Tommy's quick thinking as a civilian pilot becomes crucial. Despite the aircraft being a slow, wooden, and canvas-built plane, he employs evasive tactics to evade the attacking fighters. Erin captures his desperation: “He groaned in despair... his injured plane into a tailspin” (09:00).
A Swarm of Conflict
Emerging from the treacherous canyon, Tommy witnesses a surreal sight: hundreds of planes adorned with the red circle of the rising sun engage in a full-scale offensive against Hawaiian military installations. The vivid portrayal underscores the widespread devastation and chaos of the attack.
Survival and Historical Reflection
Tommy and Jimmy miraculously survive the ordeal, though many others do not. The narrative blends fictional elements with historical context, offering a fresh perspective on a well-known event. Erin reflects on the day’s impact: “A day that would live in infamy and one that, as Tommy Tomberland learned firsthand, was a very curious day” (10:45).
In "Mural High Ground," Erin Menke and Aaron Mahnke skillfully intertwine art and history, illustrating how creative expression can serve as both a form of rebellion and a testament to human resilience. The episode underscores the profound impact of individuals like Ala Horska, whose artistry transcends oppressive regimes, and reimagines historical events to highlight personal survival and courage.
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"Mural High Ground" offers a compelling exploration of how art can act as both a mirror and a weapon against oppressive forces, and how individual narratives can shed new light on historical events. For listeners who seek stories that blend the bizarre with the profound, this episode of Cabinet of Curiosities provides a thought-provoking experience that encourages staying curious about the hidden layers of history and culture.
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