ABA Inside Track – December 2024 Preview
Podcast: ABA Inside Track
Hosts: Robert Perry Crews, Diana Perry Crews, Jackie McDonald
Date: December 4, 2024
Episode Overview
This episode serves as the December 2024 preview for ABA Inside Track, a podcast focused on discussing current topics and research in behavior analysis. The hosts outline the upcoming episodes for the month, share special event announcements (including their 300th episode and a new newsletter), recap recent and bonus content, and share behind-the-scenes anecdotes and corrections.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. December 2024 Episodes Preview (01:44–03:31)
Main Episodes:
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Ableism in Schools
Discussing three peer-reviewed articles on the topic:- Combating Ableism in Schools (Story, Preventing School Failure, 2007)
- Recognizing Ableism in Educational Reading Between the Lines (Timberlake, Research in Educational Policy and Management, 2020)
- Avoiding Ableist Language: Suggestions for Autism Researchers (Potema Buttel et al., Autism in Adulthood, 2020)
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Artificial Intelligence and ABA
Featuring guest Dr. David Cox and covering:- Starting the Conversation Around the Ethical Use of Artificial Intelligence in Applied Behavior Analysis (Jennings & Cox, Behavior Analysis and Practice, 2024)
- The Promises and Possibilities of Artificial Intelligence in the Delivery of Behavior Analytic Services (Cox & Jennings, Behavior Analysis and Practice, 2024)
Bonus Content:
- UCP Compassionate Care Conference Poster Session ("Street Audio")
Rob recorded interviews with presenters at the July conference, highlighting new research in compassionate care. - Year-End Review with Matt Cicoria
The hosts join Matt Cicoria (Behavioral Observations Podcast) for a traditional year-end review episode.
“We have two main episodes planned...everyone likes to take a little time off in December.” – Diana Perry Crews (01:44)
2. Patron-Exclusive and Bonus Content (04:49–05:56)
- Fall Book Club:
Recently reviewed The Science of Consequences by Dr. Susan Schneider.- Full audio and 2 CEs for $10+ patrons.
- Public preview available for non-patrons.
- Potential special interview with Dr. Schneider focusing on her book and climate change work.
“If you are a patron at the $10 and up level, you have that full audio plus 2 CES for listening…” – Robert Perry Crews (04:49)
3. Listener Choice Episode: Winter 2024 Poll (06:03–09:48)
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Overview:
Poll open to all Patreon subscribers (even free) to select the winter listener choice episode from three proposed topics:- Factors Influencing Efficiency of Acquisition
- Improving Data Collection in Human Service Organizations
- How-To Guides for Token Economies and Procedural Integrity
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Process:
Poll link to be posted; episode topic determined by votes; $5+ patrons get a code for a free CE.
“Every season we do a poll and listeners can choose from a variety of topics… whichever topic wins is the one we do.” – Robert Perry Crews (06:11)
4. Big Announcement: 300th Episode Celebration (09:48–11:43)
- Event:
Live episode and party at Regis College, January 9th, 5–8 pm. - Audience Participation:
Attendees can RSVP and suggest discussion topics (must relate to behavior analysis). - **More info coming soon via social media and newsletters.
“We are rounding the corner to our 300th episode…we have decided we are going to throw a party for ourselves.” – Jackie McDonald (09:48)
5. ABA Inside Track Newsletter Coming in 2025 (11:58–12:47)
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Monthly Email:
- Previews of upcoming articles and episodes
- Hosts’ personal and professional reading recommendations
- Hot topics in behavior analysis
- “Never before seen words” (personal tidbits)
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Sign-Up:
Soon to be announced on social media.
“It’ll be a love letter from me to you.” – Jackie McDonald (12:41)
6. Corrections & Follow-Ups (Errata Section) (13:02–15:24)
- Self-Corrections:
- Diana notes she blanked on the term “sexism” during the pre-recorded Ableism episode.
- Jackie shares a follow-up from a listener explaining "stan" means “fan + stalker,” not a reference to Eminem.
“So if you listen to that episode and you’re like, ‘Diana, it’s sexism’—I know that now.” – Diana Perry Crews (13:51)
7. Current & Personal Readings (15:24–17:44)
- Robert:
- Motivational interviewing (for consulting and compassionate procedures)
- Book on anxiety (critical take on brain metaphors)
- Diana:
- Inclusive Teaching (for culturally responsive college instruction)
- Jackie:
- Playfully admits to "smutty books"
- **Shared banter about Star Wars, Stephen King, and D&D books
“Just saying keep your work life and your personal life separate.” – Jackie McDonald (17:22)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “I'm really disappointed in that episode. I was really pushing for an ABA and three and a half inch floppies, but I was...we did AI.” – Robert Perry Crews (03:24)
- "Apocalyptic?...No, maybe that's not the word I'm looking for. But it's big. It's like apocalyptic but better." – Jackie McDonald (10:04)
- "It’ll be a love letter from me to you." – Jackie McDonald (12:41)
- "We finished up reading the Science of Consequences...But I actually have been rereading a book on motivational interviewing, which has been very, very helpful for doing a lot of consulting..." – Robert Perry Crews (15:24)
Timestamps for Important Segments
- 01:44 – December episode preview (Ableism in Schools, AI & ABA)
- 03:35 – Bonus content (UCP Conference, year-end review)
- 04:49 – Fall Book Club and special bonus interview tease
- 06:03 – Listener choice episode poll and topic breakdown
- 09:48 – Announcement of 300th episode live event
- 11:58 – ABA Inside Track monthly newsletter revealed
- 13:02 – Errata section (self-corrections and follow-ups)
- 15:24 – Hosts’ current non-podcast reading
- 17:44 – Episode wrap-up and future previews
Summary
This episode gives listeners a comprehensive overview of the podcast's upcoming episodes and projects for December 2024. The hosts maintain their usual informal, humorous rapport while detailing important topics such as ableism in schools, the ethical use of AI in ABA, patron-exclusive bonus content, and opportunities for listener participation (polls, live events, newsletter signups). They also address prior mistakes with good-natured self-correction and share what they're reading—both for work and pleasure. The episode concludes with teasers about January’s big 300th episode and a promise of more behind-the-scenes content and listener engagement moving forward.
Perfect for longtime fans and newcomers alike, this preview keeps listeners up to speed on the show’s direction and ways to get involved.