ABA Inside Track – November 2025 Preview (November 5, 2025)

Overview

In this November 2025 preview episode, Rob, Diana, and Jackie from ABA Inside Track give listeners an engaging and humor-filled rundown of the upcoming month’s content, share behind-the-scenes notes, recount fall activities, and update on community events. The hosts also reflect on feedback, subscriber perks, and give patrons the first look at the next Listener Choice poll, this time with an Ethics theme.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Podcast Preview: November 2025 Episodes

[03:30]

• Listener Choice Episode: “Difficulty During Transitions (Fall 2025 Listener Choice)”
  • Book club patrons voted for this month’s topic.
  • Will explore challenges and interventions during transitions, such as academic activities or physical transitions.
  • Summarizes recent research, including:
    • An experimental analysis of Task Refusal: A comparison of negative reinforcement contingencies and transitions between academic tasks (Dog Paul's daughter, Freyr Magnussen, Svenbjorn’s daughter; Behavioral Interventions, 2024)
    • Separate and combined effects of Visual schedules and extinction plus differential reinforcement on Problem behavior Occasioned by transitions (Waters, Lerman, Havanets; Java, 2009)
    • Treatment of Challenging Behavior during Physical Transitions: A case study (Wilson, Federico, Perrin, Morris; Behavior Analysis and Practice, 2025)

Notable quote:
“So it is definitely related to transitions. And we had a good time recording this episode and there was a lot of good information out there that we summarized from the three articles…” – Diana [04:37]

• Special Guest: Dr. Doug Johnson on Instructional Design for Business
  • Dr. Johnson discusses applying behavior-based instructional design in organizational settings.
  • Main readings:
    • The Foundation of Behavior Based Instructional Design within Business (Johnson; Applied Behavior Science and Organizations, 2021)
    • The advancement of Training within Business Using Behavior Based Instructional Design (Johnson et al.; Journal of Organizational Behavior Management, 2024)
  • The hosts humorously wonder about inviting guests to talk about topics far outside their expertise.

Memorable exchange:
“Let's do a year where we just invite guests and we're like, ‘We want you to talk about something you are not at all researching at all in your lab and just, just see, see what they do. It'll be tons of fun for no one.’” – Rob [06:34]

• Water Safety Skills (Focused Episode)
  • Prompted by past safety skills episode and a realization that water safety deserved its own focus.
  • Featured research:
    • Teaching Water Safety Skills to Children with Autism Spectrum Disorder (Tucker & Ingvarsen; Behavioral Interventions, 2021)
    • Let’s Go Under: Teaching Water Safety Skills Using a Behavioral Treatment Package (Levy Ainsley & Hunsinger Harris; Education and Training in Autism and Developmental Disabilities, 2017)
    • Behavioral Water Safety and Autism: A Systematic Review of Interventions (Martin & Dillenberger; Review Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders, 2019)
  • The hosts highlight the ongoing importance of diverse safety skills beyond water.

2. Reflections & Community Updates

[10:00]

• The team recaps recent and upcoming activity at the BABAT conference, including presenting, trivia events, and supporting students' symposium and poster presentations.

Notable quote:
“So we're super duper proud of them.” – Diana [11:20]

• Fall and October recap: Discussion of family Halloween traditions, spooky movies/TV shows, and haunted attractions.
  • Jackie describes watching Hocus Pocus with her daughter for the first time [12:00].
  • Diana and Rob share stories about haunted houses, pumpkin-smashing, fall parties, and “spooky nachos.”
  • Rob commemorates “the 19th anniversary of my first cinnamon sugar rim” on pumpkin beer [17:05].

3. Community Resources & Behavioral Community Mentions

[18:02]

• The hosts highlight the Operants quarterly magazine from the B.F. Skinner Foundation.

  • Recent issue focused on Walden Two, featuring think pieces, reflections, and even community visit reports.
  • Mention of Dave Palmer’s article on problem solving and the experimental climate for societal change.
  • Fun fact: “Did you know that Ayn Rand hated Beyond Freedom and Dignity?” [21:06]

• The hosts reflect on open-access behavioral analysis resources.

4. Winter Listener Choice Poll Announcement (Ethics Theme)

[21:37]

• Preview of the upcoming Listener Choice poll focused on Ethics, prompted by a recent special issue in Behavior Analysis in Practice.
• Each host pitches their own preferred topic for the vote:
  • Diana: “Teaching ethical choice making behavior using decision trees.”
  • Jackie: “Packages to teach assessment of ethical scenarios from a supervisory standpoint.”
  • Rob: “Risk assessment tools, specifically in behavior assessments—what are we doing to minimize risk in the assessment process?”

Notable quote:
“These are all sort of... from a recent special issue in BABAT, all ethics, oops, all ethics.” – Rob [23:18]

• Participation details for Patreon subscribers; winner to be featured in an upcoming winter episode.

5. Listener Feedback & Backstage Operations

[25:25]

• Diana shares and addresses an email regarding Continuing Education (CE) delivery times for listeners.
  • Explains the thorough manual process for reviewing and sending CE credits.
  • Offers tips for listeners (submit CE info before 9pm Eastern, double-check email details, check spam folders).
• Jackie and Rob highlight that ABA Inside Track is a three-person operation and that automated CE delivery would require expensive tech overhaul.

Memorable moment:
“Thank you, everyone who didn’t email me with that piece of feedback.” – Diana [28:51]

6. Closing Banter

[29:02]

• The trio closes with characteristic lighthearted banter on “grinding gears,” fixing things, and staying resilient as a small podcast team.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “It's like reading in your car, but safer.” – Rob [00:00]
• “We want you to talk about something that you are not at all researching at all in your lab and just, just see, see what they do. It'll be tons of fun for no one.” – Rob [06:34]
• “It was my choice.” – Jackie, on the transitions episode [04:19]
• "If you didn't receive it… you could have put something like 'gmile.com', which happens pretty often…" – Diana, on CE delivery errors [26:44]
• “We are a three-person team here.” – Diana [28:32]
• “I celebrated the 19th anniversary of having my first cinnamon sugar rim.” – Rob [17:05]

Important Timestamps

• [03:30] – November episode previews and article lists
• [06:13] – Guest episode with Dr. Doug Johnson
• [07:47] – Water safety skills discussion
• [10:00] – BABAT conference and student accomplishment shout-outs
• [12:00–15:00] – Halloween and fall family stories
• [18:02] – Operants magazine and community resources
• [21:37] – Ethics-themed listener choice poll announcement
• [25:25] – Addressing listener email and CE operations

Overall Tone & Language

The episode is conversational, witty, and full of inside jokes as the hosts playfully tease each other and affectionately rib their audience. They maintain a balance of being informative and personable, mixing practical previews with real-life anecdotes, and making even administrative updates engaging.

Summary

This November 2025 preview serves both as a practical roadmap for the upcoming content (transitions, business instructional design, water safety skills) and a peek behind the curtain at the personalities and processes that make ABA Inside Track unique. Readers (and listeners) are well-equipped to look forward to both scholarly and entertaining episodes this month, as well as to participate in shaping future content through the listener poll, especially with the newly announced all-ethics poll for winter. The episode wraps the technical with the personal—reflecting ABA Inside Track's commitment to learning, community, and fun.