Hosted by Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa · EN
Pre-show: Casey’s dreams were squashed Ubiquiti Travel Router Verizon Jetpack Marco’s hotspot (newer models exist; check for refurbs, they’re way cheaper than new) Solis Edge Follow-up: The Grim Reaper FiOS CableCARD email came for John TiVo Roamio Pro Casey on Downstream Temporal dithering (via Kyle Foreman) Dagnabbit, the screen count is just too damn high MSI MEG Vision X (Screen grab) MSI Lightning RTX 5090 (Screen grab) Wi-Fi channel selection & size Wi-Fi 7 8 A tour of Apple- (or John-) relevant monitors from CES As a reminder… Apple Studio Display Pro Display HDR MSI MPG 271KRAW16 DisplayHDR 1400 certification MSI MAG 271KPD7 Monitors Unboxed ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG27UCWM (Photo) HDTVTest Subpixel arrangements Apple Creator Studio Icons over time Photomator lives on… for now (via Chris Welch) MacRumors Apple’s defense of the icons Jason on iWork freemium Apple 🤝🏻 Google More from The Information Chase to become the new issuer of Apple Card FAQ Back story on the Wall Street Journal (Apple News) Post-show: NBA Immersive Stratechery Dithering Members-only ATP Overtime: The continuing disaster at Twitter Elizabeth Lopatto: Tim Cook and Sundar Pichai are cowards Dan Moren: Apple cowardly still has not pulled X and Grok from the App Store Bloomburg: Musk’s Grok AI blocked in Indonesia, Malaysia over sexual images Robert Hart & Jess Weatherbed: X hasn’t really stopped Grok AI from undressing women in the UK Sponsored by: Guru: Your AI Source of Truth. Gusto: Payroll and benefits software built for small businesses. 1Password: More than a password manager. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
Pre-show: Casey has a question for Marco LivePhish Goose on Bandcamp Nugs Thank you, ATP Patrons! Follow-up: Cord-cutting Casey on Downstream suppose.tv Multi-select in iOS Contacts.app (via many, including Simon Ljungberg) The Studio Display is $1600 (via Greg Seay) Quinn’s video on making a 5K display Display flickering (via Stephen Perelson) This started in late 2020 with Big Sur Temporal dithering (AKA Frame rate control) Stillcolor to disable temporal dithering on macOS BetterDisplay for turning on and off GPU dithering Docs PlayStation Portal …works with PlayStation Plus …but really needs solid Wi-Fi …and doesn’t support Wi-Fi 6 …and requires wired or first-party Bluetooth headphones Double-tap title bar to Fill (via Chirag Desai) Knowedge base System Settings → Desktop & Dock → Window title bar double-click action → Fill Wi-Fi 7 Ubiquiti’s Wi-Fi 7 implementation is not great (via Reid) WPA3 WPA3 is not well supported (via USB Type-Steve) Alternatively, try band steering (via Patch) Wi-Fi Pro Abraham Vegh weighs in …as does pro Saul Sutherland John’s Eero Max 7 setup Thread vs. Matter Thread Matter Derek Seaman’s series To run Matter in HA, you need a separate container Apple Fitness+ and Quitter’s Day Bodi ASML & TSMC Extreme ultraviolet lithography Veritasium: The Ridiculous Engineering of the World’s Most Important Machine Asianometry: ASML: TSMC’s Critical Supplier, Explained TSMC Analysis playlist The Spectacular Failure of the Star Wars Hotel Tech stuff we’re looking forward to in 2026 Gartner hype cycle The Trow of Disillusionment Post-show: Casey bought something silly Quinn’s video GL i.Net /r/ubiquiti Teleport Extremely dodgy firmware upgrade approach Portainer Members-only ATP Overtime: Strange form factor rumors for forthcoming iPhones The Information MacRumors Mockup image & video Jason’s & Stepen’s posts iPhone fold display quietly debuted at CES? Sponsored by: Guru: Your AI Source of Truth. MasterClass: Learn from the world’s best. Video lessons that inspire. Factor: Healthy Eating, Made Easy. Get 50% off your first box, plus free breakfast for 1 year. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
Pre-show: Comply TrueGrip MAX for AirPods Pro 3 Pepperidge Farm Remembers Follow-up: Contacts Contact lists are a thing (via Dayton Lowell) Some non-obvious complications (via Paul) Face ID & Touch ID Older folks really do struggle with Touch ID (via Harrison Krebs & Kurt Schwind) Strictness (via Rob Sayre) John’s Liquid Glass bug in macOS 26.2 (via Gui Rambo) Gui’s PR Some more about Podcasts.app and background execution (also from Gui) FB17228659 Developer Technical Support RAM shortage Verge article Micron’s forthcoming fabs Hynix’s approach …and forthcoming fabs Samsung’s approach Thru-Silicon The Vergecast RAM Holiday Spec-tacular Data portability Git Github will still sink its talons into you (via Simon Jodet) Xcode 🤝 Git (via Tom Hartnett) Android ↔ iOS Display flicker in Tahoe What does this even mean? (via Daniel) One theory (via Sean Santry) Some corroboration (via Philip Hofstetter) Wi-Fi 7 is a bust -protonsandneutrons- Playstation Portal Ask ATP: What’s the difference between minimizing and hiding windows on macOS? (via Michael Krewson) Post-show: What the heck is the deal with Thread/Matter Home Assistant Nanoleaf Smart String Lights Lutron Caséta (former sponsor) YoLink Members-only ATP Overtime: iMac Pro… phoenix? Previous code name discussion Jason on Apple’s display strategy Sponsored by: Quince: Elevated essentials and staples that last Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
Pre-show: Marco has a new toy Follow-up: Vision Pro Light Seal sizes decoded Vision Pro Size Help tool JPEG XL lives… in PDF Chromium ticket jxl-rs: JPEG XL in Rust Chapter links in Apple Podcasts Stephen Robles on The Talk Show Apple documentation ATP on Threads Malicious content delivery on Podcasts.app? 404 Media article Everybody is leaving Apple John Giannandrea to retire from Apple Amar Subramanya’s first-week experience at Microsoft Alan Dye poached by Meta Jason’s take Cloudflare’s 18 November Outage Cloudflare Lets Encrypt Hypercritical Callsheet Ask ATP: Why can’t Siri pronounce names correctly? (via Tony West) serra queue sah Siri, what’s my full name Post-show: What now, bagel snobs? BagelFest Baltik’s Bagel: People’s Choice award Baltik’s Bagel Coverage from the NY metro area Bullstrap Minimalist Case Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple 🤝 Intel? Intel 18A vs. TSMC N2 MTr/mm² Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Aura Frames: Frames for every memory, gifts for every occasion. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
Pre-show: More people have been infected by Goose 🗣️ New ATP Members’ Special: ATP Insider: The Restaurant, Season One 🗣️ An aside about outerwear 🗣️ The ATP Holiday Store is back! Order before 9 November! 🗣️ T568A & T568B Idea courtesy Adam Brandon Follow-up: Recognition corner Casey begs for help Callsheet List bug (FB17661404) is fixed in 26.1 🎉 However, Menu(::primaryAction:) is broken (FB20755661) Some M5 Vision Pro clarifications The M5 does have Memory Integrity Enforcement The M5 MacBook pro without a charger is actually cheaper in most regions EU is €100 cheaper without / €35 with (via Nick Heer) UK is the same though The non-determinism of LLMs (via Heiko Hotz) New chat Mira Murati’s company piece discussing non-determinism The M5 Vision Pro Dual Knit Band HDCP Television Theater New Developer Strap (behind Apple Developer paywall) MacRumors coverage Post-show: John’s weird Finder animation bug AVIF Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple 🤝🏻 F1 in 🇺🇸 Previous offerings Apple’s bespoke F1 camera Wired’s coverage Apple’s F1-themed WWDC intro Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Leesa: A mattress for every body and budget; use code ATP for 20% off mattresses plus an extra $50 off. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
Pre-Show: AI slop vs. not… so… AI… slop AITAH Follow-up: Casey spends 24 hours with iOS 26 on his carry phone John’s dancing controls ☝️ Well, actually ☝️, myriad of is okay (via Jason Eccles) Merriam-Webster’s take Are size classes similar to today’s design changes? (via Bryan Guffey) Auto Layout John’s HomePod has risen from the dead! Nic’s Fix Watch John’s actual repair happen 🍿 John would like to air some AppleCare One grievances 🍿 John’s tantrum AppleCare One Terms & Conditions Blood oxygen with Apple Watch [sorta] returns to the US Gruber’s take Victoria Song at The Verge 😳🥳 M5 MacBook Pro with cellular is coming‽ 🎉😳 A19 Pro in Studio Display 2? Previously, in low-cost MacBook rumors: A18 Pro Your Mac game is probably rendering blurry CGDisplayCopyAllDisplayModes() FB13375033 Ask ATP: Should the name “Siri” be retired? (via Aaron Bushnell) Did Vehicle Motion Cues help John? (via Roly C.) How do we click our trackpads? (via Eli) Post-show: Oh yeah! 🗣️ New ATP Members special: ATP Insider: Vacations 🗣️ Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s research into using LLMs to make UIs Apple trained a LLM to teach itself good SwiftUI Research paper Stephen Robles’ video Sponsored by: Hello Fresh: America’s #1 Meal Kit. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
Pre-show: ATP’s relationship with Apple Five Whys Follow-up: SSD longevity details from an anonymous SSD firmware engineer Vision Pro on The Price is Right What are Jony Ive and Sam Altman building? Ming-Chi Quo’s opinion Upgrade #565: The Scent of Humane Alexa Plus Update Neutral: Slate Truck Top Gear review TELO, a potential Slate competitor (via Kevin Ayers) There’s a Discord (via Kevin Cash) DeMuro’s review Classic Mini vs. Modern MINI Pickup beds over time Apple Turnover and Apple Turnaround ATP #639: Crimp the World Terry Pratchett’s Boots theory Apple’s “Back to the Mac” event from 2010 Post-show: More restaurant-tech MVPs DeWalt LED Work Light DeWalt Tire Inflator DeWalt 60V Blower Zip-Tie Screw Mounts 3M VHB Tape Waveform Lighting power supply, dimmer, and Dim-to-Warm LED strip (optional diffusing channels) Knipex Wire Stripper Wago Connectors Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple OS rebranding & macOS name predictions Sponsored by: TRMNL: A hackable e-ink display. Use code ATP. Notion: Your notes, docs, and projects in one space. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
Pre-show: 🗣️ New ATP Member Special: ATP Top Four: Game Consoles 🗣️ Follow-up: Home Networking Corner 🤝🏻 Vision Pro Corner How I use my AVP to retrofit Unifi Access Points in finished homes SSDs and long-term storage was covered on Security Now #1023 (via Paul Chernoff) SpinRite (Intel-only) Fornite is back in the US App Store App Store link Judge YGR’s filing Apple 🤝🏻 Epic Epic courts Apple developers Gurman on the Apple Intelligence fiasco Previously on ATP The EU App Store warning about external purchases isn’t new after all Apple documentation Apple to open AI models to developers? OpenAI buys Jony Ive’s AI company, io Sam and Jony Gurman’s coverage Ask ATP: What was our favorite school camp/trip? (via Harrison) FBLA Disc camera What’s the deal with the tire markings on the bootleg cover art? (via Josh Kincaid) Show art Wheel size explained Is there a good camera lens that’s also light? (via Matt Richardson) Matt on Instagram Pancake lens Fuji GFX 100RF APS-C LensRentals Sony RX100 Ricoh GR IIIx Post-show Neutral: CarPlay Ultra Top Gear review Previously on ATP The Vergecast Members-only ATP Overtime: Meanwhile, in Europe… European Commission fines Apple & Meta for breaching DMA Gruber did the math New smartphone labels for battery life & repairability Official release Nutrition label Energy Star Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Hello Fresh: America’s #1 meal kit. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
Pre-show: Technology Connections on dishwashers Maestral How to excise Dropbox Brave Firefox Kagi Orion Arc Palm Pre 🗣️ ATP WWDC 2025 STORE IS UP!! 🗣️ Old hoodie: Bella + Canvas 3909 New hoodie: Bella + Canvas 3729 Follow-up: Vision Pro corner: Voices of VR #1557: Apple Immersive Video BTS Adventure: Ice Dive VIP: Yankee Stadium Feedback on Feedback Some thoughts on scale (via Matthew Fenselau) Fermi Paradox Do indies really get that much email? A response from Apple‽ 🤨 (via Vítor) Apple’s big OS redesign Mark Gurman Solarium iOS 19 Leak Front Page Tech video Nintendo Switch 2 launch Launch video Hands-on: The Verge Ars Technica The Joy-Cons are now mice Tweet microSD Express only Chunky hinges Pricing iPhone 17 Pro 48MP zoom lens Ask ATP: How do we source reviews of purchases? (via Robert Bateau) How do I back up my photos? ATP Insider: Photo Workflows How do we document complicated setups (via yertle) Post-show: How do we handle… everything? Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s all-glass hardware ambitions All-glass Apple Watch? Sponsored by: DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
Pre-show: Casey received a present Follow-up: Vision Pro Corner: Metallica immersive concert Colorful Macs MacBook Adorable “Hidra” List of Apple codenames Hidra M3/M4 interposers (via Jonathan Dietz Jr.) M3 Max does not have a D2D (“die-to-die”) interface EE Times 🇯🇵 Tech Insights …nor does the M4 Max Reticle limits Apple Silicon info Google Sheet Apple’s multi-OS redesign (via Jon Tatum) Under the Radar #314: Optimism vs. Pessimism Something is Rotten in the State of Cupertino Apple confirms [one] Siri delay Upgrade #555: What You Are Is What You Ship SMOP: Simple Matter Of Programming Ask ATP: Do we set our phones on a surface face-up or face-down? (via Aaron Bushnell) What’s up with version numbers these days? (via Joe O’Connor) Semantic Versioning Post-show: Restaurant soft opening results Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple News+ Food Paprika Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Mack Weldon: Get 25% off your first order of $125 or more using code ATP. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!