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Both the words “jazz” and “anarchy” bring up ideas of chaos and disorder. But is jazz just “playing the wrong notes” and anarchy just “a lawless landscape?” Hey all you cool cats, today we are joined by two jazz musicians, Andrew Stevens and Joel Wenhardt, and author, activist and Professor of Environmental Studies at Georgetown University, Dr. Randall Amster, to listen to some jazz, chat about how leaders emerge, and patterns in chaos.

To learn more about our guests, please connect with them at:

Andrew Stevens and Joel Wenhardt:

https://slowdownsounds.disco.ac/playlist-new/16344330?date=20240316&user_id=957631&signature=qNTsnjkNytO6OOL-cUz9qZUZXjQ%3AhZrq31lK

https://www.joelwenhardt.com/?fbclid=IwAR3UoRNIqZ_kqrIm9uh7cMFhcedHWMsite4pBDbDuN6dwZheB_BJwl8OUBE

Randall Amster:

www.peaceecology.com

www.chaosmology.com

The playlist for this episode can be found here.

Intro and outro music was "Traveling in your mind" by Loyalty Freak Music. You can find more of their work at https://loyaltyfreakmusic.com/

You can find a transcript of this episode here.

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