ACTEC Trust & Estate Talk
Episode: "Taxation of Foreign Non-Grantor Trusts"
Date: October 14, 2025
Host: Travis Hayes (A), ACTEC Fellow
Guest: Brent Nelson (C), ACTEC Fellow
Episode Overview
This episode demystifies the complex U.S. tax rules that apply to foreign non-grantor trusts with U.S. beneficiaries or U.S.-situated assets. Brent Nelson shares practical frameworks and solutions for advisors, expatriates, and trustees to recognize risks and opportunities when global families encounter evolving cross-border circumstances.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. Why Foreign Non-Grantor Trust Taxation Matters
- Many cross-border families can unexpectedly trigger U.S. tax issues when a family member becomes a U.S. resident.
- “It’s one of these topics that can arise without anybody really trying to do anything. It can just happen.” — Brent Nelson [01:14]
2. Hypothetical Family Scenario as an Analytical Framework
- Non-U.S. grandfather creates an irrevocable trust overseas with a foreign trustee.
- A grandchild later relocates to the U.S., turning an initially non-U.S. trust structure into a U.S. tax concern.
- “All of a sudden one of the grandchildren moves to Miami...you have this scenario where the trust which used to have absolutely no contact with the U.S. is now connected to the U.S.” — Brent Nelson [01:43]
3. Defining a Foreign Trust (02:45)
- If a foreign trustee has substantial decision-making power, the trust is foreign—even if assets and beneficiaries are U.S.-based.
4. Grantor vs. Non-Grantor Trusts (03:10)
- With a foreign settlor, a trust is a foreign non-grantor trust except if:
- Settlor or spouse is the only possible distribution recipient during settlor’s life, or
- Settlor retains the power to revoke the trust.
- This distinction is crucial for determining U.S. tax exposure and compliance requirements.
5. Pre-Residency Planning Considerations (04:40)
- Importance of identifying the grandchild’s U.S. residency start date for U.S. income tax purposes.
- Trust structure can sometimes be modified before residency to achieve optimal tax results.
- Separate trust shares for U.S. and non-U.S. beneficiaries may be beneficial.
- Conversion of foreign company interests to avoid negative U.S. tax treatment through “check the box” regulations (IRC Section 7701).
6. Grantor Trust Outcomes
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If foreign grantor trust status is maintained:
- Foreign grantor is the taxpayer, not the U.S. beneficiary.
- U.S. beneficiary’s distributions are income-tax free if there’s no U.S. income in the trust.
- “That is a pretty good result. So that might be the result we want to get.” — Brent Nelson [07:04]
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Alternatively, Section 678 power can “deem” the U.S. beneficiary as owner if structured properly.
7. Non-Grantor Trust Outcomes: The Throwback Rules (08:30)
- Throwback Rules:
- Tax U.S. beneficiaries on distributions of accumulated trust income at ordinary rates.
- Capital gains included in distributable net income (DNI) for foreign trusts—different from domestic rules.
- Interest penalty for accumulated income: The longer income is retained, the harsher the penalty on future distributions.
- “The interest charge, if this is accumulated income over a very long period of time, can be more than the tax amount and can be even more than that accumulated income amount.” — Brent Nelson [09:36]
8. Planning Solutions for Non-Grantor Trusts (10:00)
- Distribute only current DNI: Avoids penalties by not distributing accumulated income.
- Control trust accounting income: Use underlying entities or invest through insurance wrappers to regulate distributable income.
- Establish simple trust structure: All income is distributed annually; protects against throwback penalties but may increase creditor risk.
- Create separate shares: Limits negative consequences for U.S. beneficiaries.
9. Compliance and Reporting Traps (11:18)
- Primary U.S. forms:
- Form 3520: Disclose foreign trust distributions/relationships.
- Obtain "Foreign Non-Grantor Trust Beneficiary Statement" from trustee.
- FBAR/FinCEN 114, Form 8938: Report foreign financial assets.
- Form 5471 (CFCs) and Form 8621 (PFICs): For entity interests.
- Penalties: Harsh for non-compliance, including permanent extension of statute of limitations.
- “Failure to comply with these reporting requirements can cause penalties which can be quite mean and bitter for the beneficiary to have to pay.” — Brent Nelson [11:42]
Memorable Quotes
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“Throwback rules are sort of like tonsils. You always hear what they are, but you have no idea what they do.”
— Brent Nelson [08:43] -
“This is the world that our fund US beneficiary could be inheriting from Grandpa.”
— Brent Nelson [12:05]
Timestamps for Important Segments
- 00:37 — Episode introduction and importance of the topic
- 01:14 — Setting up the hypothetical scenario
- 02:45 — What makes a trust a foreign trust
- 03:10 — Grantor vs. non-grantor trust status
- 04:40 — Planning opportunities and pre-residency strategies
- 07:04 — Grantor trust outcomes for U.S. beneficiaries
- 08:30 — Taxation of non-grantor trusts: DNI and throwback rules
- 09:36 — The impact of interest penalties on accumulated income
- 10:00 — Planning solutions for accumulating/distributed income
- 11:18 — Reporting, compliance, and penalties
Conclusion
Brent Nelson provides a clear, practical framework for professionals advising international families on the U.S. taxation of foreign non-grantor trusts. Careful pre-immigration planning, flexible trust structuring, awareness of the throwback rules, and diligent reporting are essential to avoid costly pitfalls. The episode underscores the complexity of cross-border trust taxation and the need for proactive attention whenever U.S. connections arise.
