Eric Barrett: Behind The Scenes With Jimi Hendrix, David Bowie, & Madonna

Summary

The Adam Carolla Show – August 10, 2026

Guest: Eric Barrett – Road Manager for Jimi Hendrix, David Bowie, Madonna & Others

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Episode Overview

Adam Carolla welcomes Eric Barrett, legendary road manager who worked with some of rock’s most iconic figures, including Jimi Hendrix, David Bowie, Madonna, George Michael, Linda Ronstadt, Aerosmith, Billy Idol, Don Henley, George Harrison, and Lenny Kravitz. Eric recounts his days as a roadie and road manager during rock’s glory years, sharing intimate behind-the-scenes stories, insights into Hendrix’s and Bowie’s personalities and working styles, memorable tour mishaps, and reflections on the world of live music. Adam and Eric also reflect on the changing nature of touring, the value of memorabilia, and the unseen work that makes rock legends possible. The episode blends Adam's trademark humor and cultural commentary with Eric’s candid, often humble storytelling.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Eric Barrett’s Unlikely Journey (01:50–04:25)

• Origins: Eric was raised outside Glasgow, Scotland. Thrown out of school for truancy at 15 ½, he started as a laborer before stumbling into roadie work.
• First Gigs: Broke in by working for The Nice (Keith Emerson’s band); was invited to join Hendrix’s crew by drummer Mitch Mitchell and bassist Noel Redding on a whim.
• Role: Humble beginnings: “I was a roadie. I drove the trucks, I humped the gear… eventually got to travel with the band.” (02:23–02:36)

Life on the Road with Jimi Hendrix (05:09–19:04)

• Behind the Myth: Hendrix was nothing like his wild stage persona—“off stage, you could never have met a more mild-mannered, gentle guy. He wasn’t very confident in himself.” (05:19 Eric Barrett)
• Daily Routine: Jimmy considered guitar his “security blanket”—he played and tuned constantly, rarely indulged much before going on stage.
• Technical Details: No guitars handed to Hendrix were ever perfectly in tune; Eric describes re-stringing right-handed guitars for the left-handed Hendrix, and Jimmy's preference for right-handed models flipped upside-down for comfort (09:15–10:40).
• Substance Use: The band wasn’t embroiled in hard drugs—“I never saw Jimmy do heroin. Never.” (12:39 Eric Barrett)
• Smashing Guitars: Touring with 20+ guitars due to constant on-stage instrument destruction. Hendrix’s reasoning for smashing: “That guitar, I couldn’t squeeze one more note out of it. It gave me everything. It was time for it to go.” (14:00–14:16)

Woodstock & Historic Gigs (14:26–16:32)

• Woodstock: The band was supposed to headline at midnight, but delays pushed their set to Monday morning. “There wasn’t 600,000 people anymore… there was less than 300,000.” (14:58 Eric Barrett)
• Logistics: Shared cramped accommodations, often napped in the truck cab; post-gig chaos included racing from Woodstock to NYC for a (missed) Dick Cavett Show taping (16:27–17:14).
• Audience: By that Monday morning set, the legendary crowd had mostly headed home. Despite being the “headliner,” Jimmy performed for a drastically smaller audience.

Managing Chaos & The Road Life (19:04–23:01)

• Working-Class Escape: “They were glad I escaped… got out of the working-class little town, didn’t have to work in the shipyards or the coal mines or the steel mills. Steel mills took my dad at the age of 39.” (19:04–19:19 Eric Barrett)
• Pay & Perks: Not much pay at first, but living costs covered—so a tidy sum at tour’s end.
• Tour Routing: Back then, tours jumped erratically coast-to-coast with little logistical sense. No tour buses—rented U-Haul trucks and traveled commercial. “At the end of a show, I’d pack up the gear, get to the airport, fall asleep in the cab…” (21:17 Eric Barrett)
• Physical Toll: No stagehands in the late ‘60s; all gear moved by hand.

Hendrix’s Guitars: Stories and Regrets (23:14–28:36)

• Memorabilia Regrets: Eric sold a Hendrix Gibson Flying V in the ‘80s for what seemed like a good sum (“a nice sum for a free guitar”). The guitar later resold for $100K, then for over $1M to the Hard Rock—now worth several million. (24:23–28:36)
• Customs Stories: US Customs would ask about missing guitars; Eric would produce battered remains: “The guy I work for smashes his guitars,” to shrugs from agents who’d never heard of Hendrix back then.

The Tragic End of Jimi Hendrix (29:30–34:18)

• Circumstances: Hendrix died in September 1970 at 27, after taking too many sleeping pills to try to sleep off post-show exhaustion—not intentional, Eric stresses. Emergency crew laid him on his back, causing him to asphyxiate. “Had they laid him on his side, he may still be alive today.” (30:26–30:28 Eric Barrett)
• Aftermath: Eric was in London when he got the news, broke it to Mitch Mitchell (drummer for the Experience).

Big Shows, Bizarre Encounters, Festival Chaos (34:18–37:06)

• Last Show: Hendrix’s final concert was at the Isle of Fehmarn; dominated by outlaw biker presence and disorder—“That last couple of weeks, Jimmy was exhausted… management weren’t going for time off. It was push, push, push.” (34:42–34:44)
• Hells Angels: Violent incidents, including the murder of a promoter at a festival.

Reflections on Rock Legends & Their Teams (40:05–62:17)

• Hendrix’s Family: “I knew his dad… he had an infectious smile… proud.” (40:05–40:10 Eric Barrett)
• Historic Venues: Madison Square Garden and The Forum were Barrett’s favorites for atmosphere and professionalism (43:08–43:47).
• Bowie: “Lovely man… singer, poet, songwriter, mime artist, saxophonist, guitar player, piano player… education to David was everything.” (43:50–44:51) Bowie loved books; had a road case just for them. Eric designed Bowie’s “Isolar” tour lighting based on the stark visuals of Leni Riefenstahl’s Triumph of the Will at Bowie’s request (45:05–45:54).
• Madonna: “She is wonderful… I’ve never worked with anyone who worked, put in a 20-hour day and would put in another four.” (46:30–46:40). Notably punctual and driven—once left her own manager and agent behind for being late to a flight (48:11).
• Wives & Partners: Navigating personal conflicts was constant. “Wives of the artists… I think they’re the worst. Yoko Ono got a bad reputation, but there’s a lot like her.” (51:11–51:22)
• Bizarre Tour Requests: George Michael once had a “bed roadie” bring his own bed from home to hotels. Barrett: “The bed roadie lasted about two weeks. …I said, you’re just pissing money away.” (55:33–55:40)

Anecdotes & Candid Moments

• On Handling Legendary Gear: “Think about all those guitars you saw smashed and just threw away.” (26:27–26:31 Adam Carolla)
• On the Madonna/Sean Penn era: “She said to me, tell everyone, don’t let Sean into the building. I said, Madonna, He’s Sean Penn… Also, I gave him a pass so he could go anywhere.” (50:37–50:53 Eric Barrett)
• On Lenny Kravitz’s voice issues: Lenny often cancelled shows late, but once gave Eric a Lincoln Continental with suicide doors after a particularly good gig and conversation (59:22–60:07).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Jimi Hendrix’s Personality

• “On stage, the wild man of pop. Off stage, you could never have met a more mild-mannered, gentle guy… He wasn’t very confident in himself.”
  —Eric Barrett (05:19)

The Roadie Reality

• “That’s the job. You’re the bodyguard, the dishwasher, the janitor. You tell lies for them… You have to do it. You lie to the wives, you lie to the girlfriends, you lie to the law.”
  —Eric Barrett (06:12–06:19)

On Guitars

• “I never handed Jimi Hendrix one guitar in tune in my life… he would immediately go and start tuning while he was playing.”
  —Eric Barrett (08:46–09:09)
• On smashing guitars: “That guitar, I couldn’t squeeze one more note out of it. It gave me everything it was going to give me. So it was time for it to go.”
  —Jimi Hendrix via Eric Barrett (14:01–14:16)

Woodstock

• “We were supposed to go in around midnight, but the weather was so bad, the show was running seven, eight hours late… by the time we performed there was less than 300,000 people left.”
  —Eric Barrett (14:43–14:58)

Tragic End

• “He took an overdose of pills to sleep. Not deliberately. I’ll never believe it was deliberate… ambulance men came… laid him on his back and he threw up and he asphyxiated. Had they laid him on his side, he may still be alive.”
  —Eric Barrett (29:39–30:26)

On Madonna’s Professionalism

• “If I said lobby call, 9 o’ clock tomorrow morning and some band member will show up at five past nine, she’d be there at 8:45.”
  —Eric Barrett (47:35–47:45)

On George Michael’s “Bed Roadie”

• “They’ve hired a bed roadie… The bed roadie went to George’s home, got the bed and all the sheets, carted the bed up, and he never used it. The bed roadie lasted about two weeks.”
  —Eric Barrett (55:11–55:39)

Madonna’s Commanding Style

• “Why did they come in the bus with us?... Eric, my time, my dime. Wheels up. So we left them.”
  —Eric Barrett quoting Madonna (48:01–48:11)

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Segment Timestamps of Interest

• Eric’s Early Days & Career Start – 01:50–04:25
• The Two Sides of Jimi Hendrix – 05:09–05:56
• Woodstock Logistics & Anecdotes – 14:26–17:14
• On Guitar Restorations and Memorabilia – 24:23–28:36
• Hendrix’s Death & Aftermath – 29:30–34:18
• Festival Chaos: Hells Angels Story – 31:02–33:08
• George Michael’s Bed Roadie – 55:11–55:37
• Madonna’s Work Ethic – 46:31–48:11
• Favorite Venues – 43:08–43:47
• Reflections on Bowie, Madonna, George Harrison, Lenny Kravitz – 43:50–63:26

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Overall Tone and Takeaways

The conversation is a mix of Adam’s irreverent banter and Eric’s humble, deeply authentic storytelling. Barrett’s reminiscences illuminate just how personal, gritty, and unscripted the world behind music legends really was—no tour buses, little planning, perpetual exhaustion, and a deep sense of loyalty and camaraderie. He debunks myths about Hendrix’s off-stage wildness and offers a rare, empathetic window into the struggles and humanity of iconic musicians.

Listeners come away with a vivid sense of the chaos, joy, exhaustion, and magic of rock’s greatest era, grounded by Barrett’s matter-of-fact style and the sometimes harsh realities that could end even the brightest careers.

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For Further Listening

• Eric Barrett’s book: "Experience: On the Road with Jimi Hendrix and Beyond"
• The Adam Carolla Show archives for more music/rock history episodes.

Transcript

[Adam Carolla]

Well, in this episode, Eric Barrett joins us. He was the road manager for Jimi Hendrix, traveled with him for years. Really great stories as well as David Bowie and everyone else, some really crazy cool stories, stuff you never thought of. You're going to hear all about that. Also, we got the news with Andrew and we'll do all that right after this.

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Dawson]

From Corolla One studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Corolla Show. Adam's guest today, Jimi Hendrix's former road manager, Eric Barrett. Plus the news with Andrew Hobson. And now Adam Carolla.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, get it on, got to get it on. No choice but to get on the mandate. You get it on. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for telling a friend. Saw the ratings went up last month. Nice. Eric Barrett is here. Good to see you, Eric.

[Eric Barrett]

You too, Adam. Pleasure. Thank you for having me.

[Adam Carolla]

Road manager for not only Jimi Hendrix, but Bowie, George Michael, James Taylor, Linda Ronstadt, George Harrison, one of my favorites, Lenny Kravitz, one of my least favorites, Madonna, Aerosmith, Billy Idol, Don Hanley. And the book Experienced on the Road with Jimi Hendrix and Beyond, which is out now as we speak. So you were his manager? Road manager during the sort of superstar rise from 68 to 70.

[Eric Barrett]

That makes it as if I had a title. I was a roadie. I drove the trucks, I humped the gear and eventually got to travel just with the band. But I had to work for a couple of years before I got there.

[Adam Carolla]

You hail from where?

[Eric Barrett]

Originally about 10 miles outside of Glasgow, Scotland.

[Adam Carolla]

And how did I guess, roadie. I was a construction laborer. And you don't really. It's not really a job. I mean, it's what you do when you don't have an education and your parents don't have money and there's nothing else to do. You're just laboring. Yeah, it's a sort of. It's a version of working at McDonald's. It's just you show up, you have no qualifications, you got a strong back, good attitude. Next thing you know, you're on the road. How old were you when you started as a roadie?

[Eric Barrett]

19.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. So just not going to college and just kind of working class.

[Eric Barrett]

They threw me out at 15 and a half. They said, we like you to leave

[Adam Carolla]

out of high school.

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

For acting out, for truancy. Oh, truancy.

[Eric Barrett]

I hated going to school.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Eric Barrett]

It was very strict. It was very Catholic.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. It's not a format that fits young men.

[Eric Barrett]

No.

[Adam Carolla]

I just sat in hot classes and stared out the window and just dreamed of being. Running around, playing some sports or tackling someone or doing something. All I wanted to be was out anywhere, but trapped in this box. So you end up being a roadie. When does. And I guess in a weird way, you could say that Jimi Hendrix would have an agent, a manager, maybe a lawyer, maybe wife, girlfriend, whatever. But when you're on the road and you're in cramped quarters and you're waiting in hotel lobbies and you're sitting after the show having a drink, it really becomes that person that gets to know the person the best.

[Eric Barrett]

Absolutely. And I got the job through Mitch Mitchell, Noel Redding. And they said, we're going to Milan tomorrow. Would you like to be our roadie? And at the time, I was working for Keith Emerson's Ben the Nice. I said, yeah, absolutely.

[Adam Carolla]

Of Emerson, Lake and Palmer.

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Eric Barrett]

Which later on in my career, I took them to Japan.

[Adam Carolla]

I love Emerson, Lake and Palm. So did I. Yeah.

[Eric Barrett]

Keith Emerson was unbelievable.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, people played their instruments back then. Emerson, Lake and Palmer is great. Lenny Kravitz. I'd rather go out with Emerson, Lake and Palmer. But anyway, so you and Jimmy,

[Andrew]

you

[Adam Carolla]

know, I guess we only know the stage version of Jimmy or this sort of theatrical version of Jimmy. I don't know what he was like just knocking around.

[Eric Barrett]

There's two jimmies. There was the one on stage and they called him the wild man of pop. And off stage, you could never have met a more mild mannered, gentle guy. And he wasn't very confident in himself. He would put his hand in front of his mouth so you had to really listen. And he would be like, hey, Eric, can you do this? Hey, Eric. And that was who he was. He was wonderful. I used two words that we didn't use back then. Jimmy had game and Jimmy had swagger. Now we didn't use those words, but that's who he was.

[Adam Carolla]

So when you're doing road managing, you have to, I don't know, pluck out a woman from the audience that somebody likes or go score some weed somewhere at a park or something like that. I mean, you gotta be the bag man.

[Eric Barrett]

That's the job. You're the bodyguard, the dishwasher, the janitor. You tell lies for them.

[Adam Carolla]

Yep.

[Eric Barrett]

You have to do it. You lie to the wives, you lie to the girlfriends, you lie to the law.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. So, I mean, would you. I don't know how big a part of this. How. How big a part of this were drugs? Let's say, like, I can't tell. You know, some people, I don't know, I guess if it was Janis Joplin, you just have to get Wild Turkey or no, Southern Comfort. Southern Comfort, right. I mean, so you go to the liquor store and you get Southern Comfort, because that's her thing.

[Eric Barrett]

We actually did a show with her at Randall's island and they gave her a case. There was a representative came and presented Southern Comfort.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, that's good. I'll give you a case of Southern Comfort. Yeah. No, it's an interesting. I always say this about show business. The two things that'll kill you, like in show business is getting fat and becoming an alcoholic. And every single gift in show business is booze and muffins. And I'm like, what kind of message is this? Because every time you get there's a big basket of muffins and next to it's a big thing of champagne or old, you know, black label, Johnnie Walker. And it's like, this is the two things you're not supposed to do.

[Eric Barrett]

And the dressing room is full of all that stuff. It's all four in the afternoon and it's very hard. You're thirsty at five and you've got a show in three hours. Oh, I think I'll have a drink.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, yes. And I think when you sing and play, I mean, maybe you tell me, but I do stand up comedy. And I realize that if I have drinks, too many drinks before I walk on stage, it's going to affect me because I have to just stand there for an hour and just talk and they'll know it. If I just played the guitar, I might have a couple more of those drinks. Cause I think I could pull it off.

[Eric Barrett]

Well, yeah, I believe you.

[Adam Carolla]

And I don't know, what did Jimmy do? Did he do stuff before he got on stage?

[Eric Barrett]

Not really. You know, Jimmy played Guitar constantly. He always said that was his security blanket. He would play the guitar, tune the guitars, and then I would take all the guitars to the stage, which meant from one temperature to another, they're already going out of tune.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh really?

[Eric Barrett]

So he would get up there just

[Adam Carolla]

from that temperature change.

[Eric Barrett]

Temperature change. But here's the kicker. I never handed Jimi Hendrix one guitar in tune in my life. The volume coming off the stage was so loud way before strobo tuners. So I would just change the string, plink, plink, plink. And I'd hand it to him and he would immediately go and start tuning the guitar while he was playing.

[Adam Carolla]

While he was playing constantly. Were his guitars all guitars that were restrung for left handers?

[Eric Barrett]

Yes. I would take a hammer and I would just chip the, the nut out, you know, where did the strings go and reverse it. So therefore he, we strung it for him.

[Adam Carolla]

They didn't make a left handed guitar anymore.

[Eric Barrett]

He preferred. I think my take on it is when he, when he, when he twisted the guitar, the tremol bar was up here instead of down there.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Eric Barrett]

I think that's, that was his preference.

[Adam Carolla]

So he got used to it.

[Eric Barrett]

Looked like it was natural.

[Adam Carolla]

This is an interesting thing. One time I was, I'm left handed.

[Eric Barrett]

I could see that.

[Adam Carolla]

And I was playing, I played baseball a lot with my friends, but I didn't have my own baseball mitt and they're all right handed, so I played outfield. So I would put the mitt on my left hand and I could catch the ball, pull it out, my right hand drop, fling the mitt on the ground and throw it as fast as you could the other way. Well, I got used to it and then I kind of preferred it that way. Even though it was wrong. It was a repetitive motion kind of muscle memory kind of thing. So I could see him saying, well first off, it ain't broke. Let's not fix something that's not broke, you know what I mean? But number two, even though he learned to play on a right handed guitar, this is the way he preferred to do it.

[Eric Barrett]

But think about this. We'd be in a nightclub after a show, one in the morning and he would say, Eric, would you ask the lead guitar player if I can play? And I would go up and ask, and sometimes they'd say yes and sometimes they would say no. And he would take a right handed guitar, turn it over and we haven't changed a nut. And he would play that guitar.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah. And I saw him what his hands were so powerful. I saw him once play a bass again.

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Oops.

[Eric Barrett]

Upside down.

[Adam Carolla]

That's right. I want to move this.

[Eric Barrett]

And yes, move four bass strings together like one.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Eric Barrett]

This is the power in his hands.

[Adam Carolla]

So quiet. But then on stage, the one, the one we know. Was he from Washington?

[Eric Barrett]

Seattle.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. All right, that will make. I got that. He was in the army. He was a paratrooper. He hurt his leg or knee or something. Got out of the army. Trying to think, I'm looking, trying to figure out his story. Did he pass in 70?

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah, yeah. September 70.

[Adam Carolla]

And where? Well, maybe we shouldn't jump ahead. We'll go in order. So you go out not because he asked you to go out, because the other guys in the band asked you to go out and be a road manager. I guess road manager, you have to have a pretty thick skin because guys can just start bossing you around and telling to go get this and go find that.

[Eric Barrett]

Right, yeah, true. However, I was never thin skinned. I was. If I thought you were asking something I didn't want to do, I told all the ex, I'm not going to do that.

[Adam Carolla]

Would you ask you to do illegal stuff like go find me some heroin?

[Eric Barrett]

Never, never, never, never. And I, I never saw Jimmy do heroin. Never.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, anybody in the band like none of them?

[Eric Barrett]

No.

[Adam Carolla]

In any of the other bands either.

[Eric Barrett]

I can't name that. The names of the ones that I've seen do heroin.

[Adam Carolla]

Mm.

[Eric Barrett]

I'm not gonna.

[Adam Carolla]

Lenny Kravitz.

[Eric Barrett]

No, he's. He's as straight as you can.

[Adam Carolla]

I know. That's why I don't like him. So, so, I mean, but they, they want, they go, listen, I wanna, I wanna hot dog at 2 in the morning and go find it somewhere.

[Eric Barrett]

I've never asked to do that either. And then the bigger the band, they all have an assistant each.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, okay.

[Eric Barrett]

So they send the assistants out. But I wasn't asked to do that.

[Adam Carolla]

So you didn't have to do anything?

[Eric Barrett]

No.

[Adam Carolla]

But you would restring the guitars?

[Eric Barrett]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

And how many? I guess I don't know how many guitars he traveled with.

[Eric Barrett]

Probably around 20.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Why do you need 20 guitars?

[Eric Barrett]

Well, if you're going to smash one a night, you're going to go through them very fast.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, that had to suck. He spent all day restringing the stupid thing and then he'd smash it.

[Eric Barrett]

I give him, I would, I rebuilt guitars and I would say, if you're going to smash a guitar tonight, he didn't do it every night. Smash this one and then I would see him smash. Oh, it's such a beautiful guitar. And after the show, I said, why, Jimmy?

[Dawson]

Why?

[Eric Barrett]

And his answer was very cosmic. Too cosmic for me, Eric. That guitar, I couldn't squeeze one more note out of it. It gave me everything it was going to give me. So it was time for it to go. And I was like, wow, it's hard to argue with.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah. So you were there for some of the major, you know, the Woodstock and the Isle of Wight and all that kind of stuff, right?

[Eric Barrett]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

What was that like? What was Woodstock like? What was the Walk me through the Woodstock schedule for you and Jimmy. What time did you guys end up performing? Real late. Like super late.

[Eric Barrett]

We were supposed to go in around midnight, but the weather was so bad, the show was running seven, eight hours late.

[Andrew Hobson]

Right.

[Eric Barrett]

And at midnight, the promoter said to Jimmy's manager, put Jimmy on now. And he said, no, with the headliner. We have to close the show.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. Jimmy said that or the manager.

[Eric Barrett]

The manager said that Jimmy. Jimmy would have. Let's go on at midnight, Jimmy. Yeah, I'm ready. He would have said that. So when he did go on, there wasn't 600,000 people anymore. There was less than 300 because they all had to go back to the city and go to work.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, that was Sunday night or something.

[Eric Barrett]

We went on on Monday morning around 7, 8 in the morning.

[Andrew]

Really?

[Eric Barrett]

All night. We were all up.

[Adam Carolla]

Who were. Who were on before you, Before Jimmy was.

[Eric Barrett]

I honestly cannot remember the runner note that there was so many people.

[Adam Carolla]

Find it. Yeah, but any other memories of Woodstock, like the accommodations for you guys?

[Eric Barrett]

Well, because we're running so late, normally when a band goes on at say one or two, they leave a dressing room, but there wasn't enough dressing rooms to accommodate everyone.

[Andrew]

Right.

[Eric Barrett]

So people were doubled up, tripled up. When I wanted a nap, I just would go into the cab of the truck and that's where I found my sleep.

[Adam Carolla]

Did you guys. Where'd you guys come in from to do Woodstock?

[Eric Barrett]

We rented a house up there, and that's where all the rehearsals was.

[Adam Carolla]

Ah. Paul Butterfield Blues band played from 6, 6 to 7, 10, and then sha Na Na with Bowser did a half hour set, and then Jimmy closed the festival from 9am to 11pm that sounds so miserable to me, playing at that hour.

[Eric Barrett]

Well, the worst thing was that night we were scheduled to do the Dick Cavett show.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[Eric Barrett]

So me and the two guys that worked for me got in the truck, drove to Manhattan, setting up the show, and the office called and get out of there. And what do you mean, get out of there? I'm setting up. Jimmy's not coming. And the network had, for two weeks, really pushed it. So Mitch Mitchell told me the following day they sent a helicopter up to get Jimmy. And Jimmy, who tell everybody, apparently went outside, looked at the helicopter and said to the pilot doesn't have enough blades. I don't know what that means. I mean, I don't know if it's three or four. I don't know. So we went back two weeks later and always forgiven.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, okay. What was the. How long did it take you to get from Woodstock to Manhattan?

[Eric Barrett]

2 and a half hours probably.

[Adam Carolla]

So Dick Cavett was in Manhattan?

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And at the height of Jimmy's fame, he really probably couldn't go anywhere without being recognized.

[Eric Barrett]

No, he couldn't go anywhere, but he didn't know how brilliant he was. He was very shy and he wasn't very good at taking that compliment from a beautiful woman. Yeah, he could do the flirting, but with musicians. He was just unsure of himself.

[Adam Carolla]

Did he have a type that he liked in the female variety?

[Eric Barrett]

No, not a type.

[Adam Carolla]

Good looking.

[Eric Barrett]

Just good looking. Beautiful women.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I try to explain that to women a lot of time. We like good looking women. And I say that to people all the time. When they talk about race or racism or whatever, I go, listen, if you're beautiful, every guy I know will take a beautiful black, Japanese, Armenian, it doesn't matter, whatever. Or it could be blonde, but it doesn't matter. They'll take the best version of whatever the world has to offer.

[Eric Barrett]

I'm so lucky. I'm married to the most beautiful black woman. Oh, you know, she's gorgeous. And next month we'll be together 27 years.

[Adam Carolla]

Nice.

[Eric Barrett]

And she's gorgeous today. People hit on her all the time. I don't even notice it anymore. I go, yeah, whatever. They're gonna hit on her. Yeah, yeah. It don't bother me because she's my wife.

[Adam Carolla]

That's nice.

[Eric Barrett]

She's not going anywhere.

[Adam Carolla]

So you're on the road with Jimi Hendrix. Jimmy's at the height of his powers. What is your family back home thinking?

[Eric Barrett]

Well, they were glad I escaped. I got out of the working class little town, didn't have to work in the shipyards or the coal mines or the steel mills. Steel mills took my dad at the age of 39. So they were happy for me. Troop.

[Adam Carolla]

Your dad black lung or something?

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah, he was pushing.

[Adam Carolla]

Did. Yeah. We didn't really. Safety, just, you Know, just wasn't really much of a thing back then.

[Eric Barrett]

Nope.

[Adam Carolla]

But what do you get for a road manager? You get paid pretty well.

[Eric Barrett]

Not in the beginning, no. But you didn't have to pay for your hotel. You got a per diem. Your salary was put in the bank every week, and you could live on it out there. So at the end of a tour, there was a tidy little sum.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Eric Barrett]

Not huge.

[Adam Carolla]

Your expenses are paid for. So you can just sock away your money.

[Eric Barrett]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

Kind of like what Jay Leno did with his Tonight show money.

[Eric Barrett]

All those cars.

[Adam Carolla]

He would go out and do standup and pay all his bills off of standup and then just keep banking the Tonight show money. So you guys are traveling all over at this point?

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah. And back in those days, they didn't know how to route a tour. One day we would be in the east coast, two days later on the west coast, three days later on the East Coast.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it's weird. Now what they do is everything's sort of in order. They kind of daisy chain it and they go, okay, well, you played Washington, now you're playing Oregon. Now you're coming and playing San Francisco, and then you're going to make your way to la, and then you're going to San Diego.

[Andrew Hobson]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

Made sense.

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

But then they go from Washington to San Diego and back to Oregon or something. Right.

[Eric Barrett]

And thought they were doing us a favor, you know, they just didn't.

[Adam Carolla]

Were you guys traveling? Bus, plane, everything else?

[Eric Barrett]

No buses. There was no tour buses that I know in those days. Jerry would take a station wagon with the three guys, and I drove the truck, and then we would fly, you know, obviously to get commercial. It'd be. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

What truck were you driving?

[Eric Barrett]

U Haul.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really? Oh, you just rent trucks everywhere. Everywhere. And the truck had all the equipment in it.

[Eric Barrett]

At the end of a show, I would pack up the gear, get to the airport, fall asleep in the cab till about seven, go out curbside, give the sky cap $100 bill, and say, can you get all the gear on excess, you know, baggage, instead of paying Excess. So I pulled it off all the time. Then I would take the truck, drop, drop it at the U Haul, get on the plane, go and pick another U Haul up at the next city.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Eric Barrett]

And it just. That is how it went. Pick him up.

[Adam Carolla]

Now, is that tour manager stuff or is that roadie stuff?

[Eric Barrett]

That's roadie stuff.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Eric Barrett]

Jerry was the tour manager. They gave me the title road manager. It just sounds fancy. I was a roadie. That's all I was.

[Adam Carolla]

And once you get to town and now you got. You picked up all the stuff from the airport, now you gotta go to the venue. And what do you do once you get to the venue?

[Eric Barrett]

Lift her up. No matter how many flights of stairs there were. We didn't have stagehands in the late 60s, so I had to do it all. And if Jimmy had torn the amplifiers up, the speaker grills, I had to replace speakers every day, and then I had to replace guitars. So we had a fight every night. He wanted to push the cabinets over, and I was standing behind him and determined, they're not coming this way. Oh, so they just went back.

[Adam Carolla]

You'd stand behind him? Yeah, yeah. Because you gotta go out and repair everything. Restring the guitars or find new versions of it. He's trying to light everything on fire.

[Eric Barrett]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

And you got a date the following night. Right. Another town, another city. Yep. And if he smashes everything up, I don't know how you're gonna find all that stuff or repair all that stuff in such a short period of time.

[Eric Barrett]

This is why we travel with 20 plus guitars. You know, I bought a lot of guitars for them in New York, but Vander and Gibson, they all gave him guitars. Guitars could show up.

[Adam Carolla]

Can you, let's say, oh, my God, you must have done this math. So in the collector world, they have watches, guns, instrument, you know, guitars and cars, maybe a couple other categories. Movie memorabilia. But man, guitars are a big one. I mean, a Jimi Hendrix guitar played on stage, especially if it was Woodstock or Isle of Wight or something like that. Holy. I mean, we're into the millions of dollars.

[Eric Barrett]

I'm gonna break your heart with this story.

[Adam Carolla]

Go ahead.

[Eric Barrett]

I was.

[Adam Carolla]

Hold on, Andrew. Find the last Jimi Hendrix guitar played, you know, when it went off at Sotheby auctions or whatever three years ago or whatever. Millions of dollars, you know, iconic 68, Fender Stratocaster from Woodstock. How much does it sell for? Oh, two. Two million bucks. Yeah, well, but this is how old. You got to understand, too, when stuff goes. This thing sold for $2 million. And that was 2017 or whatever it is. Well, go ahead and triple that.

[Eric Barrett]

My story.

[Adam Carolla]

Go ahead.

[Eric Barrett]

Early 80s. I got two young children, I'm living in Tarzana, and the phone goes to. The man says, are you Eric Barrett? Yes, I am. I heard you have the Gibson Flying V which Mitch Mitchell had given me. And every time I moved apartments, I put it underneath the bed. So I said, yeah, I've got that guitar. He said, I have X amount of money. And it was a lot of money.

[Adam Carolla]

Is that Jimmy played it?

[Eric Barrett]

Oh, everywhere.

[Adam Carolla]

Played everywhere, yeah. Never smashed it?

[Eric Barrett]

Nope, nope.

[Adam Carolla]

Strung upside down.

[Eric Barrett]

We had one. One right handed guitar and one left handed guitar.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, but you got to fly. I thought the Flying V was after Hendrix.

[Eric Barrett]

Cause I traveled with that. A man came in the door, gave me the money and I was happy. Had two kids to raise.

[Adam Carolla]

What year?

[Eric Barrett]

About 85, 86.

[Adam Carolla]

And he played that guitar often?

[Eric Barrett]

Often.

[Adam Carolla]

And there are pictures of him playing that Flying V. Oh yeah. It's weird. I never see him playing the Flying V. We'll find out.

[Eric Barrett]

There's pictures. So anyhow, the next thing I heard a few years later was that the guy sold it to a Japanese collector for 100,000.

[Adam Carolla]

And that was what year you think?

[Eric Barrett]

90s? The 90s. So then the Hard Rock apparently paid a million for that guitar. And it's in the vault now at the Hard Rock in London.

[Adam Carolla]

What year was that?

[Eric Barrett]

I don't know when it went and it had to be the 2000s.

[Adam Carolla]

I would guess Paul Allen from Microsoft bought the Hendrix guitar for 2 million bucks in 92. So that Paul Allen guitar is worth 10 million bucks today, easily. I guarantee you that's how this kind of stuff works.

[Guest or Additional Voice]

Moves.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, 92 is like could have bought a house here for 300 grand right now worth 4 million bucks. So you got 40k, I got a nice sum, 50k.

[Eric Barrett]

I got a nice sum.

[Adam Carolla]

You got a nice sum for a free guitar?

[Eric Barrett]

Absolutely.

[Adam Carolla]

But think about all those guitars you saw smashed and just threw away.

[Eric Barrett]

I, I returned to America. And you go through customs and they go, well, did you bring everything back that you took out? Yeah. Well, show me the 20 guitars. And I'd show them like 11 or 12. Well, where's the rest? And I'd open a box and there was bits of guitars. I said, the guy I work for smashes his guitars and they'll go, who's the guy you work for? Jimi Hendrix. Never heard of him. Oh, well, fair enough. But that's what he does. Oh, just go on.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh God, those guitars worth so much. Show me Jimmy playing the Flying V. That's what I. That's what I'm looking for. You tell me if that was your guitar or not. Someone figured out you had it.

[Eric Barrett]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it's a crazy, It's a crazy world, that memorabilia world. But now millions of bucks. That's him playing the Flying V. There it is. So I was, I was associated Flying v with like 80s bands and less 60s bands, but you would know. So you had one that was right handed, one that was left. Which one did you have?

[Eric Barrett]

The. I think it was the right handed one. I can't remember.

[Adam Carolla]

I figured the left handed one would be worth more.

[Eric Barrett]

I don't think anyone cares.

[Adam Carolla]

I do, I. You know what, I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. Because all I deal with cars a lot and cars, they do a lot of little stupid stuff, little bits and pieces of, you know. This one has a four speed one of only 129 with a four speed. The rest were automatic. And immediately gets more valuable, you know, they tell their little story. And Jimmy with this sort of left handed. This one was restrung backwards for Jimmy or whatever makes it a little. It's a story, it's a little more. So I'm trying to ease the pain. If you selling that guitar for 1800

[Eric Barrett]

bucks, I never give you a figure.

[Adam Carolla]

I know.

[Eric Barrett]

And you just said 1800.

[Adam Carolla]

I know, but that thing. What do you think guitar's worth right now? That flying?

[Eric Barrett]

Several million.

[Adam Carolla]

Several million.

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah. I actually was one of the Rolling Stones reporters I was talking to many, many, many years ago. And he said he had just interviewed Paul Allen in Seattle and he said he told Paul Allen he was coming down to LA and he was going to talk to me. And Paul Allen said I'd like to meet that guy, would you tell him that? And I went, Paul Allen would like to meet me. Yeah, he's Jimmy Madd. He loves.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh well, who knows more than you? I mean. So you're, you're just touring Europe, you're touring the United States? Asia?

[Eric Barrett]

No, we never made it. We never made it to Australia, we never made it to Asia.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, interesting.

[Eric Barrett]

Mike Jeffries, the manager kept him under his eye. He didn't want him going, you know, let's go to Europe, let's do America, let's do Europe, let's do America. We never played Russia or any of these places.

[Adam Carolla]

What eventually killed Jimi Hendrix?

[Eric Barrett]

I've had many conversations with many.

[Adam Carolla]

When he was 27.

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah, 27. He went out the night before and he drank some wine and he came home and he couldn't sleep. So she gave him a sleeping pill. And then she woke up in the morning and went out to get cigarettes and she came back and she couldn't wake him. And she noticed her pills, there was about another nine missing. Oh, I see. So he took an overdose of pills to sleep. Not deliberately. I'll never believe it was deliberate. And she called up Eric Burdon and

[Adam Carolla]

she said, from the animals?

[Eric Barrett]

Yes, she said they were dear friends.

[Adam Carolla]

Her and Eric or Jimmy?

[Eric Barrett]

Jimmy. Jimmy and Eric.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay.

[Eric Barrett]

And Eric Burdon screamed at her, call an ambulance. So the ambulance men came and apparently they laid him on his back and he threw up and he asphyxiated. Oh, had they laid him on his side? He may still be alive today.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I think the ambulance guys would have a better handle on that.

[Eric Barrett]

Not in the 60s, they didn't. I'm sure today.

[Adam Carolla]

Just. So he was alive when they showed up?

[Eric Barrett]

Yes, he was.

[Adam Carolla]

Interesting. Wow. Where were you when you. Wait, where was this? In the middle of a tour.

[Eric Barrett]

We had finished touring after the Isle of Fairman, which was a complete disaster.

[Adam Carolla]

Why was that a disaster?

[Eric Barrett]

Hell's Angels took over the Hells Angels took over the whole festival.

[Adam Carolla]

Wait a minute. That wasn't the Isle of.

[Eric Barrett]

The Isle of Fairman.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, wait a minute. Altamont, I think, was the other Hell's Angels.

[Dawson]

Altamont was one of them.

[Eric Barrett]

That was the Rolling Stones.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I know, but I didn't know if it's a festival like other people. So Hell's Angels took over two or more. Oh, actually, they showed up to like an Evil Knievel jump and tried to stab Evil Knievel too. Hell, Sanchez got around back then they're like antifa before Antifa. They just showed up. They literally. Hells Angels were like, evel Knievel's talking shit, but he's going to be at the Civic arena jumping school buses on Saturday. So we'll just go down there, we'll wait by the landing ramp, and then when he lands, we'll kill him. Yeah, that's a weird plan. I mean, you'd think I'd write, let him drive home and we'll get him on the road, you know? But anyway, tell me about the Hell's Angels and Altamond was the stabbing with the rolling.

[Eric Barrett]

I've seen the footage of that. We were supposed to play the night before.

[Adam Carolla]

Again, where was this?

[Eric Barrett]

In the Isle of Ironman, I think. It's north of. It's up in. You take a train from Germany or a plane. It's way up north.

[Adam Carolla]

So this in Europe. Yes, Hell's angels in the 60s.

[Eric Barrett]

Tough, tough guys. We couldn't play the night before because of bad weather, so everyone during the day had to go on when they could. We went on around four in the afternoon, and when we. Jerry and I, trying to get the three guys out of there and they stopped us. They wanted Jimmy to stay and hang with them and Jerry and I just kept moving and moving and moving. And I saw out the corner of my eye one of them with a billy club going to hit Jerry. He was opening the door to put Jimmy in and I stopped him and I took the blow. That hurt for a week. And the last thing I heard Jimmy saying, are you all right, Eric? Are you all right? That's the kind of guy he was. So we all got in the cars and took off. And then I heard the promoter was shot dead. That's what I heard.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[Eric Barrett]

I've never fact checked it. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow. So that was a shit gig.

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And that was the last one of the tour.

[Eric Barrett]

Last one of the tour, man.

[Adam Carolla]

And that's the last time Jimmy played.

[Eric Barrett]

Yes, it is.

[Adam Carolla]

How was the actual show?

[Eric Barrett]

I've seen footage of him where he's really. They were giving him a hard time and he's like, f you if you don't want to leave it off. He gave back what the audience gave him. He gave back. And if it was bad vibes, he gave bad vibes vibes back.

[Adam Carolla]

Why? Why were they being shitty with him?

[Eric Barrett]

Because they wanted him on the night before at ten o' clock the night before, not four in the afternoon. The day we played.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, this was another one of those things. Oh, the weather thing.

[Eric Barrett]

Weather thing. And they didn't build roofs in those days, you know, they just didn't build them right.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, over the stage.

[Eric Barrett]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. So it's open. Playing in the rain.

[Eric Barrett]

Exposed.

[Adam Carolla]

Exposed. Could be, you know, shock and, you know, a lot of electricity going on there, so. Oh, the audience was tired and shitty.

[Eric Barrett]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

So Jimi Hendrix last show was like, shitty audience show.

[Eric Barrett]

Yes, it was. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know why you just kind of hope you want to come off like a big super bowl win.

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah, you do.

[Adam Carolla]

Rather than like one of. Was that one of the shittiest shows they've had?

[Eric Barrett]

I'd say so, yeah. Maybe. Maybe the worst one. But that last couple of weeks over there, Jimmy was exhausted. He didn't want to be there. He wanted to go back to New York and get back in Electric Lady Studios and make the album he wanted to make. Take a year, two years off. And management weren't going for that. They were push, push, push, push.

[Adam Carolla]

Get on the road, nerd.

[Eric Barrett]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Adam Carolla]

What do we have? We have footage of this. Oh, this Footage from that.

[Eric Barrett]

That's the idea. That's when we went on the next after. Look at all these strange barricades.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Oh, there's a lot of.

[Eric Barrett]

There was a lot of people.

[Adam Carolla]

It's interesting. Someone's just filming it.

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Did he share songs with you? That it was. He had a bunch of songs ready to go. To go in the studio if we're flying.

[Eric Barrett]

I would always see when the yellow pad sit. Writing, writing, writing. A guitar. It would be writing. I never, you know, I never looked to see what was going to go on. I just did my job.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Should have stole that pad.

[Eric Barrett]

I know.

[Adam Carolla]

And a couple more flying Vs.

[Eric Barrett]

I know, I know.

[Adam Carolla]

Set for life. So you. Where were you when you found out?

[Eric Barrett]

I. We were all in London and I had. I was staying at a hotel and that morning I came in around 8 in the morning from my girlfriend's house and there was messages from Jerry Stick who said, call me. So I called him and he said, where you been? I've been in the girlfriend's house. Have a seat. So I thought, how strange. So I sat down and the next thing he said, eric, Jimmy's dead. I mean, I didn't, I couldn't.

[Adam Carolla]

That had been mind blowing because he was so young and seemed so virile. And strong and everything.

[Eric Barrett]

I saw 20, 30 years of my career with the man. After that, you know, I couldn't believe it. And I went out and walked around London, pub to pub, having a drink. And the TV guy came on. He said, the wild man of rock and roll is there. Jimi Hendrix. And the first thing I did was, oh, God. Got some coins, went to the payphone and called my mom in Scotland to tell her, I'm okay. You're going to see this, but I'm okay. And then around noon, I called Mitch Mitchell. Took a couple of calls to get through, and Mitch got on. Hey, Eric, how are you, man? What's going on? And I thought, he doesn't know, right? And I said, you. Jerry hasn't got a hold of you.

[Adam Carolla]

Wait, Mitch Mitchell is who?

[Eric Barrett]

The drummer.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, sorry.

[Eric Barrett]

And.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, so the drummer in the Experience didn't know.

[Eric Barrett]

He didn't know. And I told him, and he was like, is this a joke? No, unfortunately, it's not.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Eric Barrett]

And that's how he found out. I told him, and just like Jerry told me.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, man. And where was the funeral?

[Eric Barrett]

Seattle.

[Adam Carolla]

That makes sense.

[Eric Barrett]

Jerry flew in the day ahead of us with the body, and Mitch, Noel, and I all went in the next day by ourselves. And it was. You know, there was a lot of people there. Miles Davis and people like that all showed up to pay their respects.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Wow. You ever meet his family?

[Eric Barrett]

I knew his dad. I knew the dad. He came out to quite a few shows.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, his dad did?

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah. Al, I didn't know anyone else, really.

[Adam Carolla]

His dad, but not his mom?

[Eric Barrett]

No, I never saw his mom. I never met his mom.

[Adam Carolla]

Did he ever talk about that?

[Eric Barrett]

Young guys don't talk about their moms and dads. In your 20s, you know, you're talking about the things that.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I know, but it's interesting that he. You hear a lot of stories, especially African American guys, where they go, well, my mom, she's my hero. My dad, I didn't know him. There's a lot of those stories, but you don't hear a lot of. My mom never went to the show, but my dad showed up to the shows. But that was interesting.

[Eric Barrett]

I've never met his mom. Not once.

[Adam Carolla]

His dad, good guy. He was a great guy and proud and all that stuff.

[Eric Barrett]

Oh, my God. Extremely proud.

[Adam Carolla]

That's interesting.

[Eric Barrett]

Extremely proud. I need a big smile. His dad had a infectious smile.

[Adam Carolla]

I wonder when he passed away.

[Eric Barrett]

I can't remember.

[Adam Carolla]

When did Jimi Hendrix's dad pass away? Cause sometimes you hear about these stories. It's so interesting. I was watching a retrospective on the Bismarck, the battleship. That's what I do it. I sit around at night and I watch World War II stuff about battleships and the Bismarck. Interesting, pretty tragic story. But the Bismarck sunk in like 45. And it was crazy because there was like 2,200 people on it. And 120 survived. 112 or something. Sometimes they'd have those naval battles like the Hood. Hood had like 18, 14, 1600 people. Two dudes survive. Two, the battleship goes down. It's just you live on a battleship with 1500 dudes and then all of a sudden you get hit and all of a sudden you're floating in the ocean and you're looking at one dude and he's looking at you and like, where is everyone else from this boat? And the answer is at the bottom. This guy. It was interesting. A couple of guys survived the Bismarck 45. One guy was like a gunnery. There was one officer that made it basically out of the entire 2,200 people. But then you hear these stories and the guy. Yeah, the guy died in Prescott, Arizona in 2003. And you're like, this guy was on the Bismarck in 1945, and at some point in the 2000s, he's walking through a Trader Joe's in Prescott. People have no idea what. That guy's literally floating in the ocean, getting picked up by an American ship, by the way. And the same thing. I think that guy was 02 even, which was funny. Hendrix's dad passed in 02. It's just kind of weird to see, I don't know, the cell phones and rocket ships and computers and home computers and electric cars and stuff. This guy saw. The guy from the Bismarck saw all that stuff.

[Eric Barrett]

Right. We didn't have cell phones. We didn't fax machines, you know, I know, I never.

[Adam Carolla]

It's interesting that you figured out a way to communicate and coordinate all of this stuff back then without any of these devices.

[Eric Barrett]

We were pioneers. We were creating the template I'm sure still used today. There was no books. You couldn't go and let's go to the library and buy a book and see how to do this. You did it right or wrong. We would head a new country. And we didn't have the plugs to go into the wall. So what we did was strip the wires and put a wooden thing in and put live wires in.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, right, because you didn't have the adapter. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

[Eric Barrett]

We were just. The show had to go on whatever it took. That's what we did.

[Adam Carolla]

What was the. Was there a venue that you would go to that you liked that was a sort of favorite venue that you had played more than once with all. Any of the bands you'd. You'd been with that you'd go back to?

[Eric Barrett]

The two major Madison Square Garden and the Forum. That's my two favorite venues to this day.

[Adam Carolla]

Is it a sonic thing or is it just everything?

[Eric Barrett]

Well, back in those days, it was the vibe. It was the people who ran them. They cared. It wasn't some corporation who is making a fortune. And they cared. And it was always a pleasure to go back. Yeah, that was my two.

[Adam Carolla]

How was Bowie?

[Eric Barrett]

Oh, lovely, man.

[Adam Carolla]

Seems that way.

[Eric Barrett]

Singer, poet, songwriter, mime artist, Saxophonist. Guitar player, piano player.

[Adam Carolla]

Saxophonist. Is a saxophonist.

[Eric Barrett]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Just want to make sure. You know, I thought. You know, I gotta be honest, like, I thought David Bowie was weird when I was young, you know, for me, it was like a little. Let's hear some Thin Lizzy, that's for you. Or some Boston or Led Zeppelin. And Bowie seemed weird. Like, too weird. But later on, I started listening to, like, Hunky Dory, which is a great album. And I was like, oh, he's an artist. Like, that's what's going on here. Stuff's different. It's quirky. It's just. I like his weird stuff now more than his mainstream stuff.

[Eric Barrett]

I had a case built for him just for his books.

[Adam Carolla]

For his books.

[Eric Barrett]

That man would read and read and read. He was such an educ. I mean, education to David was everything.

[Adam Carolla]

What tour did you do with him?

[Eric Barrett]

I started in 74, doing the diamond Dogs tour.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, man.

[Eric Barrett]

And I left him, I think, in 83 at the end of the Isolar 2 tour. We finished that in Tokyo.

[Adam Carolla]

So those were really some prime years.

[Eric Barrett]

They were prime years. I designed. Very proud of the fact that the station. The Station Isolar tour. I said to him, I would like a. Like to design the next lightning rig. And he said, show me what you've got. But the week prior to me saying that I was. He showed me the Lenny Roofing style. Triumph of the Will. The black and white.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Eric Barrett]

Of the. The Nuremberg stuff.

[Adam Carolla]

Right?

[Eric Barrett]

And it's all. It's just lights. It's just angles, white light, no colors. And I present him. Let's do this with all white light. And he said, I like it.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Eric Barrett]

So then I pen to paper and got my guys down there at Shoko in Dallas to build it for me. And he loved it. He Just loved that rig.

[Adam Carolla]

He would have to change it up from tour to tour. I mean a different look, different style.

[Eric Barrett]

Most acts do, they do. I mean there is a lot of acts, they've spent a million, $2 million on a set and they'll tell their production people, I might use it again, put it in storage. And we come to find out 20, 30 years later, some of these artists have stored five, six, paying money every day to the storage company. They never used them again because they're going to go and see another act and go, oh, I got to outperform that act.

[Adam Carolla]

How was Madonna?

[Eric Barrett]

She is wonderful.

[Adam Carolla]

Really seems mean to me.

[Eric Barrett]

Well, I gotta tell you, I've never worked with anyone who worked, put in a 20 hour day and would put in another four.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, I listen, I believe that Madonna and Jennifer Lopez and you know those girls, women, let's see, I'll make American Football reference. They're like a white possession receiver in the NFL. Like not the foot speed, not the size, not the natural ability, but they will work out, work everybody. Because they know at some level that they don't have the gift. You know, they don't have the chops, they don't have a world class voice. They don't, they're not, they're not gifted musicians, but they're, you know, Janis Joplin has a gift, but she's drinking Southern Comfort and I'm at the gym at 6am you know, I'm gonna outwork all these people, which will work.

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah. If I said lobby call, 9 o' clock tomorrow morning and some band member will show up at five past nine, she'd be there at 8:45.

[Dawson]

Really.

[Eric Barrett]

And once we left London to go up to take a plane up north, a little charter, and it was 11 o' clock and she turns around and she says, eric, why haven't we taken off? Let's get wheels up. And I said, I'm waiting for your manager and agent who are coming up in a car behind us. She said, why didn't they come in the bus with us? I said, I can't answer that, darling. She said, eric, my time, my dime. Wheels up. So we left them.

[Adam Carolla]

By the way, I am all for leaving people who are late.

[Eric Barrett]

As am I.

[Adam Carolla]

And they always get angry at you.

[Eric Barrett]

I know.

[Adam Carolla]

Find a mirror. Not us. Everyone else is at the airport.

[Eric Barrett]

I know. Believe me, the tour manager, it's his job to get the people there on time. I had a lot of arguments with some side musicians. I told them, when you come all you'll See is an oil spot on the ground because the bus is taking off.

[Adam Carolla]

Who had the biggest production?

[Eric Barrett]

Bowie and then Madonna. Bowie first and then Madonna started when we started doing the stadiums.

[Adam Carolla]

What was Bowie's biggest. What year was Bowie's biggest production?

[Eric Barrett]

Oh, I think even after I left. I left in 83. And then he came out with Glass Spider and all of that stuff. The one that no one ever saw was the diamond dogs tour in 74. No one ever filmed it.

[Andrew]

Oh, really?

[Eric Barrett]

And it was brilliant. It was built by Broadway and I've never seen anything like it.

[Adam Carolla]

How does that work? Like, who pays for that in advance?

[Eric Barrett]

The manager will go and get an advance from the T shirt company, normally a huge sum, and that will go into getting stuff built. And the first couple of tours, David lost money. He put all his money into his productions.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Inch. God, that guy's an artist.

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah. Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Getting a note saying, ask about Bowie's mother. Oh, that was being left of the show.

[Eric Barrett]

I shouldn't have. The other day I was telling this story. We're playing five days in London, five indoor indoor Wembleys, probably 78 or 80.

[Adam Carolla]

So he's huge. Wembley's huge.

[Eric Barrett]

And he said to me before the show, eric, if my mother tries to get backstage, don't let her in. And I said, I've never seen a picture of your mum. What does she look like? I mean, no one knows. So if she has a backstage pass, she's getting back here. He was all upset, man.

[Adam Carolla]

Between him and Jimi Hendrix, you found that pop acts don't want to hang out with their mom.

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah. Yeah. And in Madonna's case, we'd flown from LA to Miami and with Sean Penn, and they were fighting a lot in those days.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah.

[Eric Barrett]

And I played tennis at 8 in the morning with Sean. Great tennis player. And that afternoon she said to me, tell everyone, don't let Shaun into the building. I said, madonna, He's Sean Penn.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Eric Barrett]

Also, I gave him a pass so he could go anywhere.

[Adam Carolla]

Also, he's probably gonna punch you. You try to stop him from going in the building.

[Eric Barrett]

I like that guy. He was fun to hang with.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I've interviewed him before. I had a good conversation with him. I mean, he's a little nuts, but it's weird to try to stop moms and husbands from showing up.

[Eric Barrett]

And wives, the wives of the artists are. I think they're the worst.

[Dawson]

Oh, really?

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah. I mean, Yoko Ono got a bad reputation, but there's a lot like her.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

What's the Prevailing trait that they have. Well, I will say this. I'll tell you this. Women. I'll tell you what. Women. I'll tell you what. A lot of women are missing a gene or whatever. I've had this before. Like, you get the phone call five minutes before, you just walk on stage, and they call you up and they go, what the fuck is going on with the deadbolt on the front door? I mean, Jesus fucking Christ, how many times? And you go, I'm walking out on stage. You know what I mean? They go, yeah, well, the dude, you know, and you get in this thing and you're like, I'm about to walk on stage. Can we. Cause this something we could hold off for a little bit later.

[Eric Barrett]

I've seen it happen.

[Adam Carolla]

You've seen it happen? Women have a thing where it's like, if they're pissed off or they're thinking about something or something at the front of their mind, you're gonna know. You gotta know. Right now, you could be climbing into a spaceship, and before the hatch shut, you'd give a fucking earful about the gardener or something. Just something in your head about, they're pissed you didn't pay. This guy's angry. Here's shit to think about. Now go.

[Eric Barrett]

You're a brave man. I'm not speaking about women like you do.

[Adam Carolla]

I do. I'm misogynist.

[Eric Barrett]

Oh, no, no, no, no.

[Adam Carolla]

But you have definitely had wives backstage. Give these guys, get them in the wrong headspace.

[Eric Barrett]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Eric Barrett]

Or two minutes before you go on stage, they'll start a fight with them. So the drummer's going on stage, and he's madder than hell, and he wants to. You know, he wants to kill his wife and she wants to kill him. It's not fun.

[Adam Carolla]

I agree. I never. There is a thing. I don't know. It's different in women than it is in men. If I was with a woman and she was just a mule that was just earning cash for me, I would just show up with muffins and I would go, you're the best. Have a great time out there. I'll be watching, rubbing my rosary. And then when she got off stage, I would go, hey, bitch, what about this thing we were talking about? But I would never do it when she's earning. You know what I mean?

[Eric Barrett]

Yep. Well, they do.

[Adam Carolla]

They do. So you would get requests for them to not have the wives in the green room or the dressing room.

[Eric Barrett]

Yes, you would. Because if it's the drummer's wife didn't like the Lead guitar player's wife and vice versa.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, then there's that. All the wives hate each other.

[Eric Barrett]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

Friction with the wives.

[Eric Barrett]

And whoever's got the biggest house is the biggest bitch.

[Adam Carolla]

Yep. How was Linda Ronstadt?

[Eric Barrett]

Oh, sweetheart.

[Adam Carolla]

Seems nice.

[Eric Barrett]

Oh, my God, she's beautiful.

[Unidentified Ad Voice]

It's.

[Eric Barrett]

What a voice.

[Adam Carolla]

What a voice.

[Eric Barrett]

Oh, my God.

[Adam Carolla]

James Taylor, A sweetheart. All right. George Michael,

[Eric Barrett]

incredible artist. But I don't think we ever had a conversation.

[Adam Carolla]

Really.

[Eric Barrett]

I don't think so.

[Adam Carolla]

Standoffish?

[Eric Barrett]

No, he was very isolated. He would fly in on a private plane, say London to Paris with just him, an agent and his husband show up, do the show in the car back to the airport.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Eric Barrett]

Now with him, what we had did was someone advanced every tour for the best hotel and the best tweets, and that was paid for. He rarely ever used it. Quebec. So money was just wiser. Yeah. But the one thing that proved positive was they were taking. Moving his plane out after the show and a luggage cart bumped the plane, so he had to stay in the hotel that night. What that did was he didn't like the bed.

[Adam Carolla]

He didn't like the bed.

[Eric Barrett]

He didn't like the bed. So I get the call, he calls his manager, and his manager gives me a name of this guy. They've hired a bed roadie. And the bed roadie went to George's home, got the bed and all the sheets, and he would show up at, you know, whatever the fanciest hotel was in Rome, and they would cart the bed up, and he never used it

[Adam Carolla]

with a bed roadie.

[Eric Barrett]

The bedroiding lasted about two weeks. And I said, this is ridiculous. You guys are just pissing money away.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Eric Barrett]

So the bedroot, he left.

[Adam Carolla]

How about Don Henley?

[Eric Barrett]

Oh, genius.

[Adam Carolla]

Genius.

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah, but I love him. Billy Idol, lovely man. Wild. Wild as hell back then. He's today's. He's mellowed out.

[Adam Carolla]

What years were you out with Bill?

[Eric Barrett]

I. I didn't. I wasn't his tour manager. I got a job at Eastern Management. I know. I was his day to day. And after he finished the record Cyberpunk, he crashed the motorbike. I ended up going into Cedars Sinai and seeing him. Oh, what a mess. His leg was butterflied.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Eric Barrett]

So it took forever. So when we finally did get him on tour, it was time for me to move on.

[Adam Carolla]

How about Aerosmith?

[Eric Barrett]

I don't talk about them.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah, Joe Perry was great for my book. He, you know, asked Joe for a quote for a blurb and he happily provided it.

[Adam Carolla]

Joe Was good.

[Eric Barrett]

Joe is a sweetheart.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow. But not the rest.

[Eric Barrett]

I didn't say that. I just said I can't talk about them.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, let me tell you. Let me tell you. Let me tell you. Here's what you do. Here's how people do it. Watch. Watch what I do, right?

[Eric Barrett]

If you have an NDA.

[Adam Carolla]

No. Oh, an NDA. That's right. Yeah. Well, if you want. If you don't want to say something bad about someone, I'll tell you Hollywood how to do it, okay? Because you go, I can't talk about it. Then people go, oh, what's here? You go, it must be. It's like saying, did you ever have sex with this starlet? And you go, I can't talk about it. Well, then we think you think you did. So here's how it works, all right? There's Andrew over there. You asked me, how's Andrew, How's Andrew? Oh, salt of the earth. Great, dude. Great. Hank. You wouldn't even know his on stage Persona. Completely different. Sweetest guy I've ever met. Now there's Dawson over there.

[Eric Barrett]

How's Dawson?

[Adam Carolla]

I'll tell you, man, I would have that guy watch my kids. I really would. I trust him that much. Solid, solid dude. Now ask me how Chuck is.

[Eric Barrett]

How the f is Chuck?

[Adam Carolla]

Chuck, you know, Chuck's Chuck. Chuck's. Chuck's Chuck. He's gonna do what he's. Hey, Chuck is. You just say the person's name twice, and that means he's a dick. You see what I'm saying?

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So you just say that about anybody, and that's Hollywood speak for, I don't like that guy.

[Eric Barrett]

Okay?

[Adam Carolla]

Because everyone else that he preys on. But if you say Chuck's Chuck, say the guy's name twice, it means he does whatever the fuck he wants. He never listens to me, and he's an asshole.

[Eric Barrett]

Joe Perry's a sweetheart.

[Adam Carolla]

Joe Perry's not Joe Perry. He's a sweetheart, right?

[Eric Barrett]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

But some of the other guys, so. Oh, God. How's Lenny Kravitz?

[Eric Barrett]

Lenny. I like Lenny. Lenny, Lenny. Let me tell you about Lenny.

[Adam Carolla]

Tell me about Lenny.

[Eric Barrett]

Once he. The thing I didn't like about Lenny was he had vocal problems a lot. So he would cancel a show two hours before.

[Adam Carolla]

Two hours before.

[Eric Barrett]

The kids came. They've spent their money. Dinner, got the girlfriend, and we're leaving town in the tour bus. And I'm calling the manager and saying, he's done it again. The voice went. And we did a show in Cincinnati or Somewhere, and he pulled it on me. So I had to tell the promoter, we're gonna have to cancel. We went back.

[Adam Carolla]

How much money would you leave on the table in a situation like that?

[Eric Barrett]

A lot.

[Dawson]

A lot.

[Eric Barrett]

A lot, a lot.

[Adam Carolla]

Like, into the millions or hundreds of thousands?

[Eric Barrett]

Oh, it's definitely hundreds of thousands. Definitely. But we went back there and we did the show, and he gave one of the best performances I've ever heard. And we got in the tour bus to go overnight, and, you know, we talked just Craig Ross and just the three of us on that bus. And I said to him, that was one of the best shows you have ever done. And I went into detail, and he said, really? You know that car of mine that you like? And I said, do me a favor, mate. You've got a bunch of cars. He said, the Continental. I said, the hard top or the soft top? Which one would you like? And he gave me 62.

[Adam Carolla]

Like Elvis. It was the Kennedy car with the suicide doors.

[Guest or Additional Voice]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I mean, like Elvis in that. Elvis gave people Cadillacs, but, yes, Elvis probably traveled around in Lincoln Continental. So you got the Continental at the suicide door?

[Eric Barrett]

I had it.

[Adam Carolla]

Sold it in 1989 for $11. Everybody that, you know what that car would be worth today, I don't want

[Eric Barrett]

to think about it because I don't have that car anymore. And my wife is very mad at me for not having that car anymore.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, as a car guy, I can tell you that a 62 Lincoln with suicide doors in good shape is worth something, but not a king's ransom. It's not. It's a. It's. It's. I don't know. Look it up. 62 Lincoln, convertible. Oh, convertible. Oh, okay. Convertible worth more. Think Entourage, right? TV show.

[Eric Barrett]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm gonna say in good condition. I'm gonna go 55 to 75k. I'll put it somewhere in there. Now, if it had that flying V in it, It'd be worth $10 million.

[Eric Barrett]

Stop it. Stop it.

[Adam Carolla]

What else did you squander away?

[Eric Barrett]

I didn't squander anything. But I will tell you this. When you come over the 405 and you starting to come down in the Valley, and you're gonna get off at the 101, I would start pumping the brakes.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah.

[Eric Barrett]

And nothing's happening.

[Adam Carolla]

Sled weighs 8,000 pounds, and you can't

[Eric Barrett]

slow it down with the brakes.

[Adam Carolla]

No, it's a sled.

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I found one for sale for 72K. All right. Good condition. All right. What'd I say 55 to 75?

[Dawson]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't even deal with those cars. I just know everything about everything. That's right. My range. Oh, so Lenny gave you a car?

[Eric Barrett]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

That was sweet of him.

[Eric Barrett]

He also. There was an auction after Jimmy had passed. Someone from the office started selling off a lot of his stuff. And he had this particular gold chain with a gold medal on it. And it was from a fireman. The man's name was Gallagher. And it went up for auction, and Lenny bid on it and got it. And then a couple years later, he said, I got a gift for you. And he gave me that necklace.

[Adam Carolla]

And you sold it for nothing.

[Eric Barrett]

I have it in my drawer. Would you get off my case? I have it in a bloody drawer.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow. All right, Lenny.

[Eric Barrett]

Good dude. He is a good dude. He's very generous.

[Adam Carolla]

How about George Harrison?

[Eric Barrett]

George and I were. We bonded over Formula One.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, that's right. He loved F1.

[Eric Barrett]

Used to be at Long beach before they brought in the IndyCar. I would see him there. I would run into George everywhere. And at East End Management, we managed Tony D, managed the Traveling Wilburys. And George came in one morning and he said to me, eric, where should I buy a. I just want a denim jacket. I said, well, I can take you down to Maxfield Blue in. George said, there's gotta be an Army Navy store around here. I don't want to pay those kind of prices.

[Dawson]

Oh, really?

[Eric Barrett]

So I took him and he bought

[Adam Carolla]

a plain old Levi jacket, Army surplus, back in the day. Man, I miss those places. So, God, Jimi Hendrix does his now. His dad died now, too. His family has all the rights to all his publishing and all that stuff.

[Eric Barrett]

I don't think this is. I think it's. I don't think. She's his sister. Janie. Janie Hendrix runs. Runs the empire. And that empire is huge.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I mean, you know, it's crazy. You can look it up, Dawson, but I mean, what did Jimi Hendrix. What did his estate earn in 2025 or 2023 or whatever? I mean, obviously, Michael Jackson made more last year than everyone in my family combined living, you know, I mean, it's kind of a crazy world that these guys were performers and then they pass and the estate. I mean, The Jacksons made 200 million bucks last year or whatever it is.

[Eric Barrett]

Well, I just read that. I went to see the movie Michael, which I thought was brilliant.

[Adam Carolla]

I agree.

[Eric Barrett]

And Sony, they couldn't believe how many kids are buying, going back and selling the catalog again.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. They're profiting heavily it's so weird to earn from the grave that way. State valuation, revenue sources, total valuation, core items. So wedding make, or. I'm looking for a number between 6

[Dawson]

and 7 million a year.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, every year, probably. And probably wasn't much for the first 20 years. And then all of a sudden jumped. Eric. Let me give a plug to the book, by the way. Experience on the Road with Jimi Hendrix and Beyond. It is out as we speak, and it was a fun conversation.

[Eric Barrett]

I loved it. Thank you so much.

[Adam Carolla]

Thanks for coming in. And tell your beautiful Nubian wife I said hi.

[Eric Barrett]

I sure will. Thank you, Adam.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Dawson]

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[Dawson]

It's time to check Adam's voicemail.

[Eric Barrett]

This man is Jeff from Kansas City. Regarding your comments about surf fishing, it

[Adam Carolla]

brings to mind the Stephen Light Stephen Wright joke. There's a fine line between fishing and

[Eric Barrett]

standing on the shore looking like an idiot. Peace out.

[Dawson]

You can leave us a message at 888-634-1744.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, Steven Wright. Where is Stephen Wright? I never see him pop up anywhere. You must know Andrew, you know, stand up.

[Andrew Hobson]

I think, correct me if I'm wrong, I think Steven Wright won an Oscar as well.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh really?

[Andrew Hobson]

For short film.

[Adam Carolla]

The what's it film. The what's it's name.

[Andrew Hobson]

Is that correct, Chuck?

[Dawson]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hobson]

What year did he win best short?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, for short film. Sorry. Yeah, he's been in other films. Best short 89. Is that what that says?

[Andrew Hobson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow. I don't know. Is a short. You're gonna be a snob. Maybe. I don't know. Short film, is that kind of like a kid's book?

[Guest or Additional Voice]

Like.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, like pretty much.

[Andrew Hobson]

No, I agree with you. I'm with you 100%.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, look, most people I know couldn't make an entertaining 16 minute film, but it's still a short, you know what I mean? Like they go, best foreign language documentary, animated, short. It's like at some point, some point, it's like, you know, anyone could shit that thing out. It's like a kid's book. Anyone can write a kid's book. Some are better than others, but anybody can write a kid's book.

[Andrew Hobson]

Yeah, but you know what's happening is that a lot of established directors, filmmakers, actors are making short films so that they can clean up the best live action short film category so they can win an Oscar. That, that way. That's what happened. Wes Anderson, that's what he did.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, I had a thought, which was, it was P. Diddy in prison. And I don't know, tell me what you think about this P. Diddy. He has to be super miserable in prison because his life outside of prison was demonstrably different than his in solitary confinement eating shit on a shingle with other dudes right now. Meaning there are a lot of dudes that are like, they're gang bangers, they're living in South Central, they're fucking, no air conditioning, they're living in squalor. Everything's a piece of shit. Prison is a little bit of a lateral move for a homeless dude. It's a little bit that way for a poor person that's, you know, sleeping on a cotton mattress on the floor, the room that they're renting and shit like that. Prison is, you know, it's a downgrade, but it's not a free fall. But, but for P. Diddy, when you're just drinking fucking champagne every night at the club and have a place in Miami, he has a house in Miami that's worth $52 million, you know, on the water kind of thing. I mean, that is a big chasm between staying at four star hotels, eating at Michelin rated restaurants, and then sitting in a 7 by 11 concrete bunker in solitaire, It's a big thing. Now, here's what I'm saying. I'm pitching something, okay, for my dad and I'm wearing a shirt to honor him today. Not here for a good time, here for a long time. Somebody made this up. But I was like, that should have been my dad's motto. Here for not here for a good time, but here for a long time. My dad, if he had to do 10 years in prison, I mean, minus the physical threat part, he'd probably, it'd be kind of a lateral move for him. He'd read a lot. He didn't smoke, he didn't drink. You know, you miss your vices you know what I mean? Drugs, yeah, they like wine, you like ladies, you know what I mean? First thing's gone, all your vices, you know, you smoke, you drink, you love the ladies, you know, you like to play the craps of the roulette table or whatever. You like driving? I like driving cars. I like race cars. Couldn't do that in prison. But if you removed all the shit you like to do, but you didn't like to do any of that stuff, then it's almost a little bit of a lateral move. And I think they should hand out prison sentences based on the crime, but also based on the misery index of what your life used to be, you know what I mean? Like you go, Weinstein, Jesus Christ with that guy, the life he was living versus what he's living now.

[Andrew Hobson]

Yeah, absolutely. You need to grade punishments on a curve.

[Adam Carolla]

Ron Jeremy, that guy was clubbing every night, banging every 19 year old who blew into town, and now fucking sitting in a box somewhere. Yeah.

[Andrew Hobson]

So if flying first class is a hassle for you, right? And then going to, what was it, Rockville or wherever Diddy was like, that's an unbelievable difference of luxury and relativity.

[Adam Carolla]

Right? So what I'm saying is I will work up a chart, you know what I mean? I'll go. You like the ladies? Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, we just knocked six months off. You like to drink? Oh yeah, I like to get my drink.

[Eric Barrett]

Huh.

[Adam Carolla]

Smoke? Yeah. You like to play the ponies, like go to the track? Uh huh. I like to go to Monaco to go to the F1 race. Okay. I take all stuff now. My dad, I'd give more time to. You see what I mean? It's gotta be a two way street, Jim. You like hanging out? Yep. You like woodworking? Nope. You like driving race cars? Nope. What do you like reading? Okay, we just tacked two years onto your shit because it's not going to be miserable for you. But you think about it, we have dog years. We have years for every animal. I mean, we only talk about dog years, but there's horse years, right? I mean, average horse lives till 30, you know, so it's like when you're fucking. When a horse is sturdy, it's like he's 80, you know, or however long horses live. Tortoises, the giant ones?

[Andrew Hobson]

Yeah, they've been here since the Civil War.

[Adam Carolla]

They live longer than we do. So we're actually on a different system with them. It's us that have people years to tortoise and then dog ears. Have dog ears to us all Right. So we'll take that same thing and we'll apply it to prison. In which case, P. Diddy should have done one weekend and he's out because he missed out on so much fucking fun in that one weekend. That was punishment enough. And then if Jim Carolla committed the same crimes, he'd have to be in for like 121 years with no parole.

[Dawson]

Seems fair.

[Adam Carolla]

It seems fair, right? I'm gonna pitch that next time I get in front of Gergos, see if he can pull that thing across the finish line. I wonder if it's ever been pitched where, like, the person went. You don't get it. My client is not a homeless guy and he's not living in some fucking shelter. My dude flies private, drinks aged scotch, and can have any woman he wants. You understand? One month in this joint is going to be pure and utter misery to this guy. Like, he's going to be punished so bad for just one month in there.

[Andrew Hobson]

This is the first I've ever heard of this, but I do know, or I believe that if you kill someone, your sentence is based on how much life they would have had left.

[Adam Carolla]

No, hold on. I think it's factored into it now. You can make the argument, but. No, but I'll tell you what, they will.

[Andrew Hobson]

No, I'm not saying I believe it or not, but I believe that's.

[Adam Carolla]

It's not.

[Andrew Hobson]

Can we Google that?

[Dawson]

Well, when Adam says that he's right on something, it's best just to accept it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, but Google it anyway.

[Andrew Hobson]

Google it anyway.

[Adam Carolla]

No, no, I'll take it.

[Dawson]

Boss, you did touch on something. Great.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, let me just say quickly that here's how this works, and I will tell you an actuarial table that is also a little bit ghoulish. Andrew, you ready? When you are an insurance company or whatever company and you gotta figure out who's getting paid out out of 911 and who was in those buildings, you go, well, this guy was in the corner office at Saks and whatever, the Lehman Brothers. And that guy's salary was 2.5 million a year. So his family's got. And then the poor chick goes, how about my husband? It's like he was a janitor.

[Andrew Hobson]

Yeah, he emptied the trash cans at Cantor Fitzgerald.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. That sucks. Well, it's how the world works. You know what I mean? So he would have made $42,000. He was 61 years old. He's probably gonna work for another eight years. Eight times 42. I mean, they have to work it out.

[Andrew Hobson]

Yeah. This world takes all. It takes all kinds of people. I can't imagine enjoying that joke.

[Adam Carolla]

That is crunching. That is a real sort of life, you know, That's a version of what you're talking about.

[Andrew Hobson]

Oh, okay. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

But. But killing. Killing, you know, killing old people, they just give you the same. I would factor it in. I was telling Mike on the road, we got. It's time to go back to Logan's Run. We got to go. No, but here's what we got to do. You ready for the Logan's Run twist? Logan's Run. They killed you after the age of 30. We lived in a society, the future. And the future is they would just kill you after the age of 30. That's what Logan's Run is based on. My twist. We kill everyone under 30 and get all these fuck sticks with their crazy fucking socialist ideas, all these dumb shits that are taking over our society and our universities. Give them the fuck out of here. We kill everyone under 30. I'll talk to my kids. They'll understand.

[Dawson]

In tortoise years. You're about 19.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, let's see. Sentencing based on how much life the victim had left is a Louis CK joke.

[Andrew Hobson]

That's right. That's what I heard. But hold on a sec.

[Adam Carolla]

Quite the crime stopper. Fucking high watching Louis ck.

[Andrew Hobson]

I was not high. But he. Wait, hold on a sec. Chuck. Didn't he present it in the joke that this was actually? Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Andrew was telling me off the mic. He was like, do you see that baseball team that has a first baseman named who and a center field named what? And a left fielder played I don't know. And I was like, that's a. That's a Laurel and Hardy bit. That is a Laurel and Hardy. Well, no, they're just playing the Expos. I go, no, no. Expos are defunct. And that's a bit. But he thought it was an actual. You have team. I guess you did.

[Andrew Hobson]

Louie's a smart guy.

[Dawson]

I wouldn't.

[Andrew Hobson]

I couldn't imagine him making up a fact for a premise.

[Adam Carolla]

Let's listen. This don't. They're alive or they're dead. It's one or the other.

[Andrew Hobson]

But.

[Adam Carolla]

But the laws around murder are a little murky. One person kills somebody get 100 years, somebody else gets 20.

[Andrew Hobson]

Why?

[Eric Barrett]

What's the difference?

[Adam Carolla]

Here's what they base your sentence on. With murder, they base it on how

[Eric Barrett]

you felt when you murdered them.

[Adam Carolla]

And weirdly important. They say, okay, you shot him in the face. But what was up with you, man?

[Andrew Hobson]

Like, what was going on?

[Adam Carolla]

Like, come on. I think if you murder somebody, your sentence should be based on how old the person was that you murdered.

[Andrew Hobson]

Got it. That's right.

[Adam Carolla]

That should matter. How much of their life did you take? Now, remember that. That part where Dawson chimed in, just went. Adam said no, so move on.

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah.

[Dawson]

It's a hard lesson,

[Adam Carolla]

but a hard one to learn.

[Andrew Hobson]

It's a Mike August moment. I just said.

[Eric Barrett]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

No, the difference is Mike would still be saying it.

[Andrew Hobson]

Yeah. Listen, I'll accept it.

[Adam Carolla]

All right? That's the appropriate time to say.

[Andrew Hobson]

Yeah, but still, I did accept earlier that our guest today did not produce. I'm gonna get you, sucker.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, you did?

[Andrew Hobson]

I did it. It's a different Eric Barrett.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, let's do some news.

[Andrew Hobson]

Well, Adam, do you like Thanksgiving?

[Dawson]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew Hobson]

Oh, too fucking bad, man. It's gone.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hobson]

If Governor Francesca Hong gets her way from Madison, Wisconsin. Yeah. This is an interesting little. First off, she tweeted this. I'm going to read this tweet from 2020. Cancel Thanksgiving. Should have been. Should have done this in 1621. If it takes a worldwide pandemic for us to realize we should stop celebrating the colonization and the original super spreader event that killed indigenous folks and women, so be it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hobson]

And this is her now.

[Guest or Additional Voice]

Thanksgiving is also a time that's incredibly painful for many people in our communities. My favorite holiday incredibly painful is Thanksgiving because I.

[Andrew Hobson]

There you have it.

[Guest or Additional Voice]

Yep. I don't want to cancel it. I actually love it. Thanksgiving.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, listen, all you whores. And I'm including men in this. Stick by your fucking guns. Don't just talk shit, and then show up again. This Bitch is like 43. You hated Thanksgiving. You were 37 and a half. Stick with it. Stop fucking doing this. This is all they do. I was against Frank. If you have to pretend to be normal to get voted in, then maybe we shouldn't vote you in. Maybe we should vote in the person that never said crazy ass shit. I don't know why that's not. It's the whole. The whole thing is like, we'll get back to baseball. Let's just go. I love the Dodgers, and I've always said I love the Dodgers, and you've said you love the Giants and a pox on the Dodgers and everyone who loves the Dodgers should die. And then you found out that you won't win as mayor in Los Angeles by saying you love the Giants and you hate the Dodgers and everyone who loves the Dodgers died. And now all of a Sudden you love the Dodgers. Okay, well, I don't know. Do you love the Dodgers? I don't believe you. Do I believe somebody told you to stop saying you hate the Dodgers. But how about this? How about we not take any chances? How about we just vote for the person that loved the Dodgers the whole time and like Thanksgiving the whole time?

[Dawson]

Steve Garvey tried that.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. How about that legendary first baseman for the Dodgers? Okay? It's fucking nuts. You have to walk away from all the shit you said you wanted four years ago in order for us not to think you're an insane person. But listen, I've said it a million times because I grew up with these people. They hate this country. They hate this country. And what they can't do, which you can do, here's what you do with a person. It's super easy, right? Ask me what I think of Andrew.

[Dawson]

Hey, what do you think of that guy Andrew?

[Adam Carolla]

I fucking hate that douche. Okay, you can do it with a person. Now here's what politicians have to do with this country. These are what these fucking democratic socialists do. Ask me what I think about Andra.

[Dawson]

What do you think about Andrew?

[Adam Carolla]

His work ethic is problematic. It's very problematic. And his religion is problematic. And his smile is problematic. And his posture is problematic. And then you go, so you don't like Andrew?

[Dawson]

So you don't like Andrew?

[Adam Carolla]

No, I have great love, great respect. There's great respect for Andrew. His past is really bad. He's caused a lot of pain. He's caused a lot of suffering. He is out of touch. He believes that those who don't make as much as him should be punished under his boot. But there's great love for Andrew. So all you do is talk shit about this country. Every single thing that comes out of your fucking mouth is, I hate this country. But you can't say I hate this country. But you're telling me you hate this country because you don't like Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. And now I know. And they never can go. They'll never go because I'm angry and I hate this country. Instead, it's all the Trail of Tears, slavery, Japanese internment camps. I hate Thanksgiving. I hate anything that this country stands for. By the way, the American flag is a fucking hate crime. All of it.

[Andrew]

Love.

[Adam Carolla]

Great love for Andrew. Great love for the man.

[Andrew Hobson]

Thank you.

[Guest or Additional Voice]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Dawson]

I guess the Thanksgiving deal would be the ultimate libnus test.

[Adam Carolla]

If you love or hate.

[Dawson]

If you hate Thanksgiving, then fuck off.

[Adam Carolla]

You hate this country. So they all hate this country. They Want to change every single thing. There's no way you can love Rosetta Stone. Love being overseas and being able to use language of the country I'm in. Rosetta Stone. Well, they just came out with Rosetta Stone Sapphire, their biggest launch in over a decade. It's not just memorizing vocabulary. You learn entirely in your new language through visuals and audio. It helps you pick it up naturally. Once I was in Mexico, and I wowed the table I was sitting with at dinner because I whipped out some of my Spanish skills, and they were impressed because I was not a great student. But I got Rosetta Stone. I love Rosetta Stone, and I know you're gonna love it as well. It's Rosetta Stone, right, Dawson?

[Dawson]

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[Andrew]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Andrew]

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[Andrew]

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[Andrew]

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[Adam Carolla]

All right, you go into a house, right? You. You and your wife buy a house, and you walk in and you go, I want to remodel every fucking room in this house. Everything's gotta change. But I love this house. It's like, well, do you love this house? If we have to remodel, you want every single room remodeled. You want everything changed about this house. You do love. How much do you love this house? If you want to change everything in this house, and that's all they want to do, and the reason. None of it makes any sense. You're like, what, Thanksgiving? Or, what? Give sex change operations to illegals that are incarcerated? You go, what? What? Dudes playing the wa. NBA.

[Andrew]

What?

[Adam Carolla]

It's easy. Just look through the lens of they hate this country, and then it'll solve every problem.

[Andrew Hobson]

Well, if you want to save the house, sometimes you have to fundamentally change the way the house is.

[Adam Carolla]

I know.

[Andrew Hobson]

Shaped.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. Oh, we have her.

[Andrew Hobson]

Oh, wait, we do have Another video. I just want to get your eyes on this. This is. She has a campaign video. It's not like tweets.

[Adam Carolla]

That being said, it's very important that we get more women of color involved with these, you know, politics. It's super important. Here we go.

[Guest or Additional Voice]

It's so stressful to get by these days, and I know a lot about stress. I work in restaurants. I started in this kitchen 15 years ago. And you might recognize what's going on.

[Adam Carolla]

Can you pause it for a second? These fucking people, especially on the left, who just have to pretend that there's some vein of normalcy that runs through them. Like, I drove American car when I was in high school. Yeah, okay. I packed a lunch one time for somebody. I walked somewhere once. I had a job at some place at some. Yeah, everyone had a fucking job. It's just like, oh, she's a local hero because she fucking had a job.

[Andrew]

Ugh.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, Sorry. Go ahead.

[Guest or Additional Voice]

And you might recognize what's across the street. A lot of people in that building don't get why it's so hard to get by right now. Working hard doesn't mean you can always keep up. One wrong step can lay you out flat. This is by design. I'm State Representative Francesca Hong. I'm a service worker, community organizer, and a moment. I work for a living. Always have, still do. Five years ago, my community sent me to the Capitol. The system is rigged. I'm running for governor to fix it. For years, we've been told that doing better isn't possible. Well, let me tell you, that's bullshit. All we need to do is fight together. We can fully.

[Adam Carolla]

They did the needle scratch in 2026.

[Guest or Additional Voice]

We can guarantee paid leave and have cheaper health care. We can fix a rigged system that puts oligarchs over workers and small businesses. We can do better.

[Adam Carolla]

We got oligarchs.

[Guest or Additional Voice]

Let anyone tell you, we can't do this. We can build a Wisconsin where we share the table. I'm Francesca Hong, and I'm running for governor because I know that together we make better possible.

[Adam Carolla]

I like the speech she gave about having proximity to whiteness. And her son's half white. Now he has a proximity to whiteness, and she's married to a white guy, so she had to figure out her proximity to whiteness. Jesus Christ. It's 2026. With the fucking race hustle. And by the way, Asians, you're not supposed to get involved with the race hustle. That's for blacks and Hispanics. You guys aren't Supposed to lower yourselves into the race. Hustle.

[Andrew Hobson]

I just want to say I waited tables. I worked at a restaurant before.

[Adam Carolla]

I know. You worked at a. Where'd you work? At a tgn. No shit.

[Andrew Hobson]

You worked at Galifty's?

[Adam Carolla]

No.

[Andrew Hobson]

You worked at Rosemont?

[Adam Carolla]

What retail do you work?

[Andrew Hobson]

I worked at a TJ Maxx, too.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, TGI Max. Oh, you worked at a Close. There's a TGI Friday and a TJ Maxx.

[Andrew Hobson]

No, TJ Maxx. Not TJ Maxx.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, I'm sorry, I think you said TJ TGI Max.

[Andrew Hobson]

No, not T. Max. Thank God it's Max.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, we'll check.

[Dawson]

Did you learn your lesson?

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know.

[Dawson]

You have to agree with him.

[Adam Carolla]

I gotta check the tape.

[Dawson]

No, he did say TJ Maxx.

[Adam Carolla]

Now we really gotta check that tape.

[Andrew Hobson]

Yeah, I just want to say I should never be in charge of any state. And most. I'd say pretty much anybody I worked with at Gifty's. Great place, but none of them should be. Yeah, no, I gotta stop this. Like, this person's a good salt. It's like. No, this is. Let's get smart.

[Adam Carolla]

Fucking idiot. Let's get smart people who didn't work and didn't work as a bus girl. All right, what else you got?

[Andrew Hobson]

All right, speaking of other people running for governor, we have got Xavier Becerra ducking reporters after slipping out of a press conference. He was just asked about what happened to a bunch of migrant children when he was HHS secretary.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, that got lost, but here we go. Secretary, do you take any questions? Just a quick question, just. Are you definitely regret about your HHS career? Do you have any regrets about your HHS career, Secretary. Biden? Biden is such a fucking retard that he didn't know anything. He's just like, look, we need Mexicans, we need blacks, we need trans people. And just fucking put them at the head of whatever and let the CIA just run the company. My wife fucking hunter and Obama will just run everything. And let's get a bunch of Mexicans and black people and let's get this guy Baccaria.

[Andrew Hobson]

Yeah, this is Becerra. Baqueria is a totally different guy.

[Adam Carolla]

This guy was. No, this. Oh, yeah, you're making a joke. Because I didn't know if it's Xavier or Javier.

[Dawson]

Steve Hilton calls him Javier.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, okay. Well, the point is.

[Dawson]

It's Javier.

[Andrew Hobson]

It's Javier. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

He took dumb people of different whatever on the intersectional points, grabbing wheels and then just shoved them at the head of everything, and they're all fucking retarded and did a shit job. And then he would go have pressers and go, we have the most diverse. Our cabinet is the most diverse. Yeah, it's filled with retarded people from different lands. Who are he. She's. Who can't fucking do their job. And he was one of them. I don't know. Is there any. Is there anyone who was connected with Joe Biden and the southern border that could be qualified to do anything? Like, literally, you're the fucking captain of the Exxon Valdez, and you're going, you need me, Carnival Cruise Lines, to be captain. It's like, no, I don't. No, you're eliminated. If you were involved, Kamala Harris Becerra, any of you, any you who are involved with that border should be eliminated from any job. You shouldn't be able to work at a fucking donut shop for the next 10 years. You should be mathematically eliminated. Mayorkas, all you fucking dangerous retards. First off, you should all be brought up on charges. But secondly, you shouldn't be running for anything except for your life. Yeah, thank you.

[Andrew Hobson]

Fair point. All right, here we go. We've got some fight footage. I want to get your eyes on this. Oh, yeah, this is Kirill Basin. I believe I'm saying his name. I don't know. I've been fucking names up today.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hobson]

Anyway, just having a Mike August and a Joe Biden moment in one news segment.

[Adam Carolla]

This guy sounds like the most obnoxious person on the planet. I watch this whole tape. You know what the Internet's great for? You get to watch guys being obnoxious for 90 seconds, and then you get to see them get knocked out. And that's the best part of life right there, Right?

[Andrew Hobson]

Yeah. I like the Pixie song in the background.

[Adam Carolla]

Put your bag away, bro. Put your bag away. I told him if he wants to

[Andrew Hobson]

go to the hospital.

[Guest or Additional Voice]

Come here.

[Adam Carolla]

He just seems like the most obnoxious guy on the planet. It is over.

[Dawson]

Overflowing with confidence.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I do like that dude. Got to be Brad. Hey, you. You my girls, right?

[Eric Barrett]

You're not talking about go, right?

[Unidentified Ad Voice]

I don't care.

[Adam Carolla]

Don't do that, dude.

[Andrew Hobson]

Don't do that.

[Adam Carolla]

What are you going to do?

[Andrew]

Go ahead.

[Eric Barrett]

Just.

[Adam Carolla]

Just go.

[Guest or Additional Voice]

Just go.

[Adam Carolla]

What are you going to do, Don?

[Eric Barrett]

Go ahead.

[Adam Carolla]

I didn't put him in the ground.

[Eric Barrett]

Let's go, bro.

[Guest or Additional Voice]

Go ahead.

[Andrew]

I'm good.

[Guest or Additional Voice]

Let him.

[Adam Carolla]

Let him do it. All right, good.

[Andrew Hobson]

It's over. It's Over.

[Adam Carolla]

He's a child. Listen. That's where he got knocked out.

[Andrew Hobson]

Yeah, he brought the chair.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. We should have been on the other side of the wall. Yeah. Tries to fight him here, Holly boy. That's gonna be your new name. The tape. He got smacked before this. And then he went back into the chair and he lifted the chair. First off, an aluminum beach chair with canvas on it. It could be shot out of an air cannon at you and it wouldn't leave a fucking mark. Like, there's no. There's not. I don't know. A feather duster could do more damage than that thing. It's unwieldy. It's sort of padding is kind of built in.

[Dawson]

It's the wind resistance.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

The wind resistance alone, that fabric's gonna rip.

[Andrew Hobson]

Nothing's gonna.

[Adam Carolla]

You.

[Andrew Hobson]

You.

[Adam Carolla]

The best day of your life is if someone said, look, there's a weapon. The weapon could be a fire poker, could be a baseball bat, could be a skateboard. Or it could be a beach chair. You'd be fucking praying for that beach chair. The beach chair cannot cause damage to you. You're right. The whole thing's a fucking wind sock. You start turning the canvas. It's made of canvas. It's a fucking. It's a ship of the line.

[Andrew Hobson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Stand fast.

[Andrew Hobson]

It's the easiest chair to break.

[Adam Carolla]

South by southwest. I think we've all by south. Andrew has seen master and commander 28 times. He doesn't remember. They say south. South by southwest. Yeah. They don't say south. Didn't know that. Oh, I wrote something down too. All right, I'll think of it for the next show. But here's my whole point. Not only does he attempt to hit him with a non weapon, there's just no damage you could do with someone with a fucking beach chair. Like, literally, if you were holding literally, a skateboard would be a much, much better weapon than a beach chair. But not only does he grab the beach chair, he does a full wind up, man. I mean, he's fucking winds it all the way back. Like, there's no more telegraphing you can do with the shot. I mean, you're just. You have no business fighting if that's. And by the way, you know what I'm gonna do with both my hands? I'm gonna take both my hands and get them as far away from my face as humanly possible as I try to launch this beach chair. Yeah, like you need your fucking hands up. Not only fighting a guy who's big and he just Hits you the fucking straight cost. But anyway, it's funny because the guy was the most obnoxious douchebag in the world.

[Andrew Hobson]

Well, he's running for election to represent Hawaii's 2nd congressional district. And this is either gonna end that career or, I don't know, give him enough name recognition to put him over the top.

[Adam Carolla]

Hawaii has the worst politicians ever. Like I said, Mazy Hirona dumb even by Hawaiian standards. Like they just went, let's take

[Eric Barrett]

It's

[Adam Carolla]

a dumbo all star team and they got the fucking captain. And that's Maisie Hirona. I just love watching clips of her being dumb.

[Andrew Hobson]

Well, this is an interesting clip. This is James Carville. He's talking about how he is going to abandon the Democratic Party.

[Adam Carolla]

Does anyone give a fuck about James? Why do we? I know we care about him. Like we're supposed to think Pam Anderson is hot at 61 or something, but do we want to fuck her anymore? I mean, James Carville's a super angry, obnoxious, self absorbed douchebag who's in his 80s, who got Clinton elected Andrew when you were 3. So I don't know, I feel like James Carville, no one cares what he says anymore, but let's listen. What the fucking obnoxious. He's also a crazed narcissist, but go ahead. I am not going to be in the same party with Hassan Piker. I can tell you that right now.

[Eric Barrett]

If he becomes a force in a

[Adam Carolla]

Democratic party, I'm out of here. James Carville says he doesn't want to be in the same political party as Hasan Piker. Which one are you going to take?

[Eric Barrett]

Well, that's not much of a choice.

[Adam Carolla]

If Mr. Carville doesn't want to be in my party, the party that I

[Eric Barrett]

belong to, that pica that Syed belongs to, he can start his own party.

[Adam Carolla]

That'd be Hillary Clinton talking. For those who didn't, no Bernie Sanders. I was thinking about Hasan Piker the other day and he's such a fucking obnoxious person prick. But he's also kind of a know nothing prick. And I know we live in a world where the left, the left goes. Is that Joe Rogan? He doesn't believe the shit he's talking about, does he? And I go, yeah, he does. And then they'll go, you know, Ben Shapiro or whoever, they go, they don't believe that. Tucker Carlson used to be that way. They don't really believe it. I go, yeah, they do.

[Eric Barrett]

But.

[Adam Carolla]

But I'm starting to wonder about Hasan Piker. Like he says, fucking insane shit. You know why? What bothers me is when I see a look that comes with the ideas and the words. Like, what's the look? Why are we doing the look? Like, why are we cultivating a look? Like, when I see the look and then I hear the words, I go, is this all part of some sort of way to hammer checks and get rich and get on tv? Like, how much of this is bullshit? Cause for me, I'm face value on just about everything. But Hasan Piker, I'm like, eh. Like Fetterman. I just go, all right, that guy's just who that guy is. And I'll say that about a lot of people, but right and left. But I'm starting to wonder about him.

[Dawson]

You think he's like the shock jock of the TikTok age?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, remember what we all thought Howard Stern was in the 80s and the 90s?

[Dawson]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

I've had dinner with Howard Stern more than once. The thing with Howard is we gotta eat at 4:30. And you go, we're eating dinner. 4:30? Yeah. 5. Yeah. Why? I go to bed at 7. I go, all right, wanna have some drinks? No, I'll drink iced tea and I'll go to bed at 5. So the whole rock and roll, shock jockey, love the ladies rock and roll lifestyle and stuff, that was the thing. It was an image. I mean, any cast, something that he conjured. Yeah, it's a way to get paid. It's fine. I mean, the jokes are still there and the comedy's still there and whatever. He's going to a barbecue and he's wearing a thin tie with a clip on it, and he's got his Versace glasses and shit. Is this.

[Andrew Hobson]

Yeah, he's got.

[Adam Carolla]

Is this all made up?

[Andrew Hobson]

He's got that ring. Somebody. He was wearing a ring and somebody found it on, like, Tiffany's or something. It was worth, like, a fortune.

[Guest or Additional Voice]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Is this all just part of the grift? And is he just a pro wrestler who's getting paid? Okay.

[Dawson]

It's like the pro wrestler getting paid, but all he does is slam the WWE every single time he gets on the microphone.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. Albuquerque, New Mexico. I think Andrew's going to be with me there. Hyenas. That'll be Thursday and then Friday, got a couple shows, same place. Also Tucson, Arizona, Rialto Theater, and then gonna head to Tampa after that. That'll be on the 28th of August for the motor enclave. Cool thing if you like cars. Big weekend. Big night. What do you got, Andrew?

[Andrew Hobson]

I got a new short film premiering on my YouTube page. Nice, funny sketch. A shot with my friend from Groundlings. Oh, good stuff.

[Adam Carolla]

Wait, didn't I say only assholes made shorts?

[Andrew Hobson]

That's. That's right.

[Adam Carolla]

Full circle. Eric Barnett. Experience the name of the book. And until next time, this Adam for Eric Barrett and Andrew. Say it. Mahala, pick up your phone and leave

[Dawson]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Dawson]

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[Adam Carolla]

Fantastic.

[Andrew]

The Matrix Trilogy.

[Adam Carolla]

Welcome to the real world, mean girls.

[Andrew]

Shut up, Titanic.

[Eric Barrett]

I'm the king of the world.

[Andrew]

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[Andrew]

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[Eric Barrett]

You know what they say. Four wheels move the body, but two

[Adam Carolla]

wheels move the soul.

[Eric Barrett]

Poetry, mate.

[Adam Carolla]

But don't think my motorcycle or my soul will be moving anytime soon. Got a flat tire. Oh, that's all right.

[Eric Barrett]

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[Adam Carolla]

got their 24.7emergency roadside service.

[Eric Barrett]

They'll get you back on the road.

[Adam Carolla]

Ah, beautiful saying.

[Eric Barrett]

You come up with that? It's not a saying. It's a Geico motorcycle policy.

[Adam Carolla]

Tomato, tomato.

[Andrew Hobson]

It feels good to ride with help.

[Adam Carolla]

It feels good to Geico. Emergency Roadside service is optional coverage.

[Andrew]

Hello and welcome to Pluto Foe. If you know the name of the movie you'd like to see, just stream it for free on Pluto tv, where all your blockbuster favorites are landing all summer long. Catch. Anchorman. The Legend of Ron Burgundy.

[Adam Carolla]

Fantastic.

[Andrew]

The Matrix Trilogy.

[Adam Carolla]

Welcome to the real world, mean girls.

[Andrew]

Shut up, Titanic.

[Eric Barrett]

I'm the king of the world.

[Andrew]

And so much more. For Showtime's press, Nothing. They're free 24. 7.

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[Andrew]

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