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Live from the laugh factory in covina, california, this is the adam carolla show. Adam's guest today, the united states secretary
Adam Carolla
of health and human services, robert f.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Kennedy, jr. And now, adam perola. All right, thank you guys so much for coming out. We're sitting back toward the back of
Adam Carolla
the stage because it's a security issue.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
It's not that we don't like you guys. Although some of you have bad breath and no thanks for. Oh, sorry. There's your mic. RFK Jr. We're talking backstage about you guys not having A house out here, you and Cheryl renting. Renting your house out.
Adam Carolla
And it just popped in my head.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Wasn't Chelsea Handler talking shit about your house and mold or something that she bought? Is that. Did I get that right?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Yeah. I didn't follow that controversy that closely, but we sold her a house, I think, five years ago, and we moved up the street. It was on Mandeville Canyon. And I guess she said that the house was recently in the last month or so. He said that the house was toxic and that that was our fault. She had an engineering survey of the house. It was not toxic when we left it.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Well, maybe I don't know how it works, but sometime, if enough silicone escapes
Adam Carolla
from a woman's body, it can pollute
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
the air in the home. And I think that may have been it. You. I'm fascinated with your story. I watched the Oliver Stone doc.
Adam Carolla
I recommend it. It's a great doc Oliver Stone made about you.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
But I've always had this theory. Like, I remember when people came after you because you were barefoot in the airport. And this is several years ago. I saw it on tmz. And then as a joke, you went barefoot on the plane, and everyone went, oh, my God, he's barefoot.
Adam Carolla
Like, oh, my God.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
I've been doing weird stuff like that my whole life. I have no allergies. I have no stomach problems. I've never gotten a headache. I'm not allergic to anything, and I never get sick. And I think it's our lack of exposure to germs that is causing a lot of our problems. Anybody here over 40 ever grow up with a kid who was allergic to peanuts? That didn't exist. It literally didn't exist. Now every fourth kid's allergic to peanuts. I mean, can you speak to that? The fact that you exposed yourself, that you were in nature, that you'd be in rivers and swamps and. And barefoot and outdoors and now have a fairly, I'm guessing, robust immune system.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
I think that's true, and that's called the hygiene hypothesis. People who are constantly exposed to the pathogens, the bacteria develop a stronger immune response and that their body gets used to it. And it may. You know, I have no idea whether or not it's true, but I'm like you. I don't get. I never get sick, and I don't have any allergies. I could actually rub poison ivy on my body and I won't get an outbreak. I'm not allergic to anything.
Adam Carolla
Now, hold on a second. I brought some poison ivy.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Vicky Vicki, are you back there? He didn't see this coming. No. And we got some peanut butter. It's going to be a real kinky scene.
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
All I know is I did not. I grew up before antibacterial everything and Purell rubbed on everything and everything sterilized and wiped down. It was all barefoot in the dirt, playing outside all the time, exposed to everything. And nobody I knew had any stomach issues or any allergies or anything else. We also did not get antibiotics. So I made it all the way through my life. You just got it out. You had a toothache or whatever it was. I'm guessing you missed antibiotics too, although you had a family that could afford them.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
I took antibiotics. But nowadays, in fact, I just did a tour here in Los Angeles of City of Hope, which is this huge, really wonderful medical facility.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
I grew up in City of Despair with the Corolla family, by the way.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
It was a different name, but they do cancer research. It's one of the premier cancer research institutions in the country. And one of the things that they're really focused now is the microbiome and the contribution to damage their microbiome to tumor growth. And they're actually getting better outcomes in patients when they restore their microbiome. And one of the things that they found out is that a lot of chemotherapy patients do much worse if they've had antibiotics because it weakens their microbiome.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
You're killing that good bacteria, they're killing the good bacteria.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
And this is a funny subject, but they're using fecal transplant therapy to restore the microbiomes of people who have taken antibiotics. And anyway, they're putting millions, and my agencies now are putting hundreds of millions of dollars into studying the microbiome.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
You know, I think we used to
Adam Carolla
think that the head sort of affected the gut, but now I think we're learning that the gut is affecting the head. And so many people, young people, have
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
so many stomach related issues, just things they can't eat. I mean, I'm old, but when I went out with my buddies, no one even asked, are there any allergies or gluten issues or there's any dairy issues you just ate. And that was it. It was never a discussion. And I, I, you know, they do do studies where they find out that like Amish kids have much less of the, you know, the allergies and the, and all because they're outdoors and they're exposed. And even people that have outdoor dogs who come in and sleep on the bed with them, exposing them to more. Have much, much less of these syndromes. There's got to be something to explain it because the rise of it has been so substantial over just the last couple of decades, it hasn't been long at all. The something I like to ask to everybody who's into, you know, nutrition and health and Maha and all that is give me your breakfast, lunch and dinner. What is a typical day for you?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Well, I've been on a diet for about 330 days. That is a carnivore diet with ferments. So that's all that I eat. Although I have to say I've been cheating in the last two weeks because I've been on the road and it's just.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
It's impossible.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
It's hard to do. Yeah, but I eat. I eat meat at every meal and I eat vermin. So I eat kimchi, I eat sauerkraut, I eat yogurt, Right?
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Oh, so, like, we were just backstage
Adam Carolla
and you had a big tub of
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
yogurt back there and we were eating
Adam Carolla
barbecue and I gotta apologize for dipping my rib into it. I didn't know you had crawd.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
It could have been worse, but I did not know that was yours. So kimchi I always hear about now and all the fermented stuff and all the stuff we really kind of worked out of the American diet. You know, we don't do kraut, we don't do kimchi, we don't do a lot of fermented stuff. But you do meat and fermented stuff and then the yogurt for the, for the bacterial benefit.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Well, the same with the kimchi and the ferments. That's all about your gut microbiome. Right. And it. I went on this diet and it had a really transformative effect. And I try everything.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
What was the effect?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
One is I had a lot of internal fat, which I didn't know about.
Adam Carolla
Oh, right.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
But I did a full body mri and I had fat on my heart. I Fat on my, my liver and on, you know, all throughout my gut. And this doctor, his name Sean o', Mara, said I can get rid of all of it if you go on this diet.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Really?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
I went on the diet for 30 days. I lost 20 pounds. And. But I did another MRI and I had lost 40% of my internal fat. And that's where all the disease is.
Adam Carolla
I tell you, fat is like on
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
your liver, on your heart, it goes everywhere.
Adam Carolla
But your dick.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Ever the one place you wanted to go, no can do. I gotta go up your Heart. Damn that fat. So tell me. So then what. So this is miraculous. So like breakfast, lunch and dinner. What, just red meat, is it?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
I eat fish or red meat.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
All right, so like a meat and then kimchi or crap. Yeah, that's.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Or you know, there's a, if you go into like a Whole Foods, there's a whole shelves of fermented vegetables. So you can get a variety of stuff. You're supposed to eat a variety because each one has a different culture.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Right. So you do fermented meat. That's it. 30 days, 20 pounds. And you felt a lot better.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
But the MRI also had, the doctor took a look at my MRI and he said if you don't have atrial fibrillations, you're going to have them. And as a coincidence, I've been having atrial fibrillations every day four months. And as soon as I went on this, about 20 days in, they disappeared. And now I'm 330 days in and they never came back. I also had, I also had other stuff that seems connected. My cognition changed. I got much better word retrieval, much better name recall. I always had trouble remembering people's names and now I have almost total name recall.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Really. And that's something that usually I don't know.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Yeah. And you know, it's hard to tell because you can't really scientifically say this is a cause and effect. To me there is definitely a connection between what I was doing.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
What have you got done with Maha that you, you're proudest of and what are you most focused on down the road?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
I mean, probably the most important things that we've done is flipping the food pyramid and the dietary guidelines. When I, when I came into office a week after I got in, I was handed the dietary guidelines that had been developed over four, four years by the Biden administration. That was 453 pages long. And it was written by, clearly by food industry lobbyists. And it reflected the same kind of commercial impulses that put Fruit Loops at the top of the food pyramid.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Maybe the auto pen wrote it, we don't know.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
But yeah, so we brought all the best nutritionists in the country from a dozen of the biggest universities and we put them all in a room for 11 months and they did science based guidelines which put protein. The government was lying to us for 60 years saying protein cause heart attacks. And there's no scientific evidence for that, that it had taken protein off. And what that meant was people were eating highly refined carbohydrates and ultra Processed Foods. 70% of the calories that Americans eat are now ultra processed foods. And that's why we're the sickest people in the world. And you know, you mentioned, you know, the power of the immune system. And a lot of people are mad at me because they say you should be focused completely on infectious disease like measles, when instead of focusing so much on chronic disease, infectious vaccine, preventable infectious diseases kill about 10,000Americans a year. And 3 million people between 2 and 3 million die from chronic disease. And not only that, but during COVID for example, we had the highest death rate of any country in the world. World. We had a death rate of about 3,000Americans died from COVID per million population. African nations had 1/10 of that or countries that had 1/200 of that. And when you ask CDC why did Americans die of COVID more than any country in the world, they say it's because we're the sickest population. Because the average per American who died from COVID 19 had 3.8 chronic diseases. Maybe it wasn't really Covid that was killing them. It was the degraded immune system that had given Covid a beachhead in them and allowed it to propagate and proliferate. And so one of the things I think we all have to understand is that germs cause disease, but the vulnerability is our immune system. It's in the terrain. And we can defend ourselves without a lot of pharmaceutical interventions if we take care of our diet, we get exercise, and we make ourselves strong.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
You know, it reminds me every once in a while you'd hear a story.
Adam Carolla
Seems like back in the day, and
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
they say this guy was hiking and he took a spill and he fell
Adam Carolla
80ft down a ravine.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
But he survived because he was a world class athlete. And it's like, meaning he was in great shape. And so this thing hit him. But he could weather the storm because he was strong. But if you're weak and out of shape, then no, that fall's going to kill you. And Covid is kind of the same thing. If you're strong, you would weather the storm.
Adam Carolla
As a matter of fact, I'm not
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
even sure what Covid did to healthy
Adam Carolla
people who didn't have pre existing.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
It was almost impossible to die from COVID if you were completely healthy. It happened, but it was, it was very, very rare that the average person who died in this country had 3.8 chronic disease. So they had diabetes, obesity, cardiac disease. And one other thing, I don't want
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
to brag, but the Average Adam carolla
Adam Carolla
fan has 4.2 morbidity. So I'm not just blowing smoke.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
I'm just look it up, not bragging. So this whole Covid thing, in a weird way, it's part and parcel of, like, everything we've been experiencing. It's kind of connected to the food pyramid. It's all sort of connected in that the media mixed with the politicians just sort of started these narratives and ran with them. And we just found out 10 minutes ago, most likely a lab leak, which I guess we knew a long time ago, but you'd be pilloried if you brought it up. You know, we all knew, you know, Ivermectin, horse paste, and, like, the nonsense, and the fact that the media was complicit with the whole thing is kind of insane. And then also something I was never prepared for, which is doctors going along with bullshit they knew was wrong. Like, I. I thought, all right, Sanjay Gupta, fine, you're on cnn, but you're a physician, for Christ's sake. No, he went right down the horse pace highway like everyone else did. And I didn't anticipate this. I really didn't anticipate this many people. And also the insane pressure that was put on anybody who just asked a question like, I don't know, maybe Ivermectin works, or maybe it came from a lab, or maybe masks don't work. It's something I didn't anticipate. Did you anticipate this because you're the. You got a lot of it.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Yeah, I mean, I saw the censorship earlier than other people because I was experiencing it since 2005. Prior to 2005, I was on the media all the time. And then I wrote an article Rolling Stone about vaccines in 2005, and I was just cut off. And, you know, I was never allowed to do an op ed for the New York Times. I had a rare deal with the New York Times. Only Henry Kissinger and I had this deal. They asked us to publish op EDS twice a year. I was kind of a darling of the liberal press. And then as soon as I took that public position, it all disappeared. And so I had been experiencing it for 15 years. And when they. When Covid launched, I immediately saw it again. I was censored. In 2020, the White House asked Mark Zuckerberg, who we now know, to remove my Instagram account, which is the main way that I had been end running the media. I had a million followers, which was a lot back then, and it allowed me to talk to the public without going through the mainstream media. So that was then removed. And we now know that 37 hours after he took the oath of office. And there's a quote from the legal case from the court of appeals. The Biden administration ordered Facebook to remove my accounts and many other people had their accounts removed. As you say, there was. People were not just censored, they were punished, they were marginalized, they were vilified, they were demonized. The doctors who, who challenged the orthodoxies were delicensed. And, oh, there was a penalty at that point for telling the truth. And as you say, the strangest thing about it was the media complicity, that there was no objections about freedom of press or the first Amendment. Nobody was talking about it.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Well, I mean, one would have to ask if the media, media is going to take money from big Pharma to the tune of 75% of their advertising is from big Pharma. And then you want to get up there and start talking about something that's free and safe versus something they can sell you and mandate. We're talking about a lot of pressure on CNN not to highlight the free and effective preventative medication versus the pharma version. I mean, there's a. There's a conflict of interest that has to. It's baked into the relationship. There's no way you could do an automotive review show, get 75% of your advertising dollars from Ford, and then do an honest review of the new Ford F150. You just. You couldn't do it. How? There's no business model in the world that works that way. So that begs the question. Most nations do not let pharmaceutical companies advertise on tv. Is that something you've thought about?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Yeah, I've thought a lot about that. There's only one other nation that allows it, which is New Zealand. And New Zealand allows it, but it's very, very limited. And here we allow. People are shocked when they come from Europe and see the pharmaceutical ads on television here. And it's changed the. You know, it has perverted the whole system. We now take more pharmaceutical ads products than any country in the world, than any citizens of any country. We have 4.2% of the world's population. We provide 75% of the revenues for the pharmaceutical industry, really? And we're the sickest population in the world, and yet we spend two to three times what European nations spend for health care. We have the best health care available here. We have the best physicians in this country. We have the best technology for treating people. If you get sick. There's no other country you'd rather be in than here. People fly here to get treated. And yet our population is the sickest population in the world. It has the highest chronic disease burden of any country in the world, the highest diabetes rates, the highest heart disease. We've lost six years in lifespan against Europe. We were the healthiest country when I was a kid. We spend zero on chronic disease when my uncle was president. 0a. We spend 48 cents out of every federal dollar that you send to the federal government in taxes is going for health care, and 90% of that is going to treat chronic disease. Most of these diseases are diseases none of us ever heard of. Autism. In 1970, they did the biggest epidemiological study in 18 history. They looked in Wisconsin at every child who was 8 years old, 900,000 children, and they knew what autism looked like. And they were looking for it to determine the incident rate. And they came out with an incident rate. It was 0.8 per 10,000. So less than 1 in 10,000. Today, it's 1 in 31. And in California, it's 1 in every 19 kids. 1 in every 12, 15 boys. Oh, what happened? Something happened. Congress said to EPA, tell us what year the autism epidemic began. And the EPA came back. EPA scientists came back with a study saying, it's 1989. It is a red line. That's when it started. And all these other diseases like you were talking about, the allergy epidemic, peanut allergies, food allergies, anaphylaxis, asthma. Asthma we had. When I was a kid, I had a brother in asthma. His doctor told him it will never be a treatment for asthma because it's so rare nobody will ever study it. And now, you know, one in every four black kids has asthma. So something happened with our children in this generation that on Internet, we know when it happened, beginning around 1980, were all these autoimmune diseases that none of us ever heard of before. Neurological diseases, add, adhd, speech delay, language delay, tics, Tourette syndrome, narcolepsy. I never heard of any of these when I was a kid. And the allergic diseases, and all of them began around the same time. So you can figure out what's causing them. My agency, nih, has engaged in regulatory malpractice in not telling the answer to that question. There's a very famous toxicologist, his name is Philip Langegan, and he looked at this problem, and he said, yeah, in 1989, it begins, and you have to figure out an exposure that was introduced in 1989 and became ubiquitous across all populations from Cubans in Key Biscayne to Inuit in Alaska. And that affects boys at a 4 to 1 ratio as girls. And he came out with a list of about 18 things that it could be. It's an easy thing to use science to discover which one of those are contributing factors. The NIH never did it. And that's what we're doing now. The New York Times this week found out that we're doing all these studies, which, by the way, it didn't take a lot of sleuthing because we were announcing it all the time, but they wrote an indignant article saying, Robert Kennedy is studying the. The cause of chronic disease. On every line of it, there's this outrage and indignation, like, how dare he do that? That's what I was hired to do. I've been really clear that that's what I'm gonna do.
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
It kind of reminds me of when the Democrats are running counter ads trying to take down Spencer Pratt for the. For the Merrill race. They're like, he. They're like, he wants to have more cops on the street. We want more happy ambassadors. He wants smaller public unions. We want.
Adam Carolla
It's like. And then at the end, they go,
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
stay the course, la. And it's like, that's the worst campaign ever. And it is funny when they're trying to write a hit piece and you're trying to do your damn job. It is kind of. Now, I. With you, it's kind of tough because, see, it's.
Adam Carolla
It's interesting.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
So I grew up in the San Fernando Valley with a hippie mom.
Adam Carolla
Thank you.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Yeah. Go North Hollywood or 818. And my hippie mom would have been all about what you're talking about all the time. And she was as progressive a person as there was. You know, she. I remember my mom. I remember being in our VW Square back. That's a hippie car. That's right. Volkswagen engine inside the car so you could smell when it was running. And we were just buzzing along in between. Vapor lock. And she was complaining about, like, red dye number seven. And we're talking about 1972. And she's talking about, get these dyes out of this food and all the other things you talk about. That's. And she did not trust the man, and she did not trust Big Pharma. And now all the progressives have essentially flipped the script. And all the ladies from the View and all the. You know, every progressive, they're all declaring war. On the guy who's trying to do battle with Big Pharma and get all the junk and dies out of food. And it doesn't want the kids to be obese. What is that all? Trump Derangement Syndrome. And can you guys. If there was one vaccine that you would tout, would it be one that cured Trump Derangement Syndrome, One that you could really get behind?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
I mean, we're trying to. I told my staff today that we need an ICD code for Trump Derangement Syndrome because it is a real thing.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Yes.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
And, you know, I have, you know, lots of friends. I mean, you know, this is. I'm not. I'm not trying to make it a sad story, but I've had many friends come up to me and just say, I can't be your friend anymore. And I'm not like, I'm not feeling sorry for myself. I'm just saying it's a weird anthropological phenomena.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
It should be studied.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Yeah, I agree. Maybe we get Foushee to hold on. He could. He could just fund some of the gain of function and we could have the folks in the Wuhan lab just take a good look at the Trump Derangement Syndrome under a microscope, you know? Yeah, it is. Well, you know the part that's crazy and I've. Obviously, I'm in LA and Hollywood and have the same circles and friends and I get it. The funny part is when they get into the motive part of it, because they go, oh, you're just trying to hammer checks with your buddies from Fox. It's like they don't pay you to go on Fox.
Adam Carolla
It is not.
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You do not make money. When you take these kinds of stands, it actually removes you from money.
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This is my doc. It's all my doc. And my company produced it.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
And he had like a uncomfortable conversation with me today. And he said, you know, we're about ready to take this. This thing out, but, you know, with your name on it, it's going to be a tough sell. And it's like, so when you speak, like we speak, you get punished, and then people think you're evil. But why would anyone torpedo their life, their social life, and their career unless they just felt compelled to speak the fucking truth? But this notion that we're doing it so Trump will give us a gold watch or something are insane. It's the contrary. It's the opposite. You're actually jeopardizing your career so that you can speak the truth and try to bring some good to people.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
I mean, on my own journey, I started with vaccines, and people were trying to attribute all kinds of motives, but it was the worst career decision that I ever made. I lost all of my jobs, you know, with environmental groups that I had started, and I lost my income, I lost my friends, I lost family. It's not something that you have a hidden motive for, you know, that you got to figure out some other reason why I'm doing this. And maybe it's because I believe that, you know, that what I'm saying is true, or I should be able to ask questions about things.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Yes.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
And in this country. In this country, the framers of the Constitution understood that the most important right that we have is freedom of speech, and that's why they put it in the First Amendment, because all of the other rights that we have are dependent on it. If you have a government that has the power to silence its critics, it has license for any kind of atrocity. And, you know, that's why we've always guarded freedom of speech in our country. That's where all of our creativity comes from, all the things that God wants us to do, to be creative people, to create poetry and music and literature and push the boundaries of creativity. And in totalitarian systems, all of that is constrained. Totalitarian systems. The aspiration of every totalitarian system in history has been to control every aspect of human behavior. You know, our movements, our conversations with each other, even our thoughts. None of them have been able to do that ever, because they don't have the technology. But today, we now have frightening technology that can reach into our lives and control every aspect of it. And that's why it is more important than ever to raise the bulwarks to protect these Constitution, constitutional rights, and the.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
You know, I don't want to cut you off, but I gotta do a live read for pfizer. Really quick
Adam Carolla
and then no, but then
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
we'll get back to the talking stuff, whatever you're saying. No, I, no, it's actually I was listening and was very interested when you were talking about free speech and surveillance and you made the whole analogy that in the 40s in France or when occupied Nazi wherever you could at least escape into the hills and have a chance. Now with all the satellites orbiting, you didn't have a chance. Now of course, immediately CNN took that and turned it into some sort of twisted, bizarre Nazi fever dream or something in their willful misinterpretation of everything everyone who disagrees with them says, you know, it's kind of a weird way to do journalism to actually misinterpret things that people say full time so that you can twist their words. You know, it's good people on both sides. He said no. He said it's going to be a dictator.
Adam Carolla
No.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
He said inject bleach. Like are you guys journalists? You can't figure this stuff stuff out. They cook the tape. But I was funny, I was watching Debbie Wasserman Schultz who.
Adam Carolla
Now listen, hold on.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Many white women can't pull off a Jheri curl. Let's give the devil her do.
Adam Carolla
A lot of blondes can't get,
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
cannot get that smooth soulful look from the 80s that only men had in R and B.
Adam Carolla
She pulled that one off.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
But I brought a little clip of her in front of Congress, I think when she was grilling you because first off she sounds clinically insane. Secondly, do they believe that you or Trump or anybody got into politics because you're Nazis? And if you were, would you be making lots of Nazi analogies? You know what I mean? Like if I was an actual Nazi,
Adam Carolla
I'd keep it on the down low,
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
you know, I wouldn't be constantly making Nazi analogies. But I think we have it.
Adam Carolla
I think we can play it on
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
the screen up there.
Adam Carolla
I was told, Andrew, we can see it on a monitor up here. But you can, you can figure it out.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
I'll filibust until we have it. But I mean the notion first of those Democratic, mostly women, but lots of guys too, sound crazed but also really low iq. Like a lot of them just sound really dull. Is good. But they're not, you know, they're not coming after you with a point that's. Can you can even make heads or tails of.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Yeah, I mean. Well, first of all, what I've figured out from being in there and having to go in front of these committees all the Time is that it's all theater.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
And that, you know, it's all performative. And that many of these people, I go to their office, and they're very kind and congenial. Right. And then a half hour later, I see them out there and they're berating me in the most kind of vitriolic, vicious way.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Right.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
It's like a completely different person. But then, you know, that's how they get. That's how they do fundraising now.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
But see, here's the part that I don't think they understand. It seems like theater to them, but to me, I'm just learning through watching their theater that these people are insane and they're dopes and they don't have a command over the English language, and they can't put their thoughts together, and they get defeated all the time. So I'm not sure what's advantageous for them. They seem to look like fools when they're doing it. Andrew, do we have an AV thing? Can you play it then? Oh, well, then go ahead and play it.
Congresswoman (questioning RFK Jr.)
You're trying to rewrite history here. A few months ago, Mr. Kennedy, you compared Covid public health policies to barbaric, murderous tactics of Nazi Germany, saying that Jewish people in Nazi Germany had more freedom than Americans facing Covid health restrictions. In hindsight, Mr. Kennedy, do you reject this absurd and deeply hurtful and harmful comparison, or do you still stand by it?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Congressman, what you are saying is a lie.
Congresswoman (questioning RFK Jr.)
That you said it. It's. It's.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
No, I did not. I never can tell you. I never, ever.
Congresswoman (questioning RFK Jr.)
Mr. Chairman, I'm saying that I reclaim my time in discussing Covid public health measures. You made light of the genocide against Jewish people by saying, and I quote, even Hitler's Germany. You could cross the Alps to Switzerland. You could hide in an attic like anne Frank did. Mr. Kennedy, do you think it was easy for Jewish people to escape systematic slaughter of Nazis? Yes or no?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Absolutely not.
Congresswoman (questioning RFK Jr.)
Okay, good. Mr. Kennedy, do you think it was just as hard to wear a mask during COVID as it was to hide under floorboards or false walls? So you weren't murdered or dragged to a concentration camp? Yes or no?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Excuse me?
Congresswoman (questioning RFK Jr.)
That's a question. Yes or no?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
I didn't hear your question.
Adam Carolla
All right, all right, we got it.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
She's a batty witch, and maybe hair relaxer has seeped into her brain. This is something you could look at. Possibly the constant use of the Jheri curl hair relaxers now permanently polluted her brain like the old Hudson River. Before you cleaned it up. This is patently insane. That she's going to turn wearing masks into the opening scene of Inglorious Basterds is awesome. But the point you were making was what? When she twisted it into some sort
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
of Nazi film that I made at the. The speech she was referring to. I was never comparing Covid to the Third Reich. I was just saying that we need to be very, very conscious that there are now these very intrusive technologies that can give totalitarian systems or totalitarian impulses, can arm them with weapons to control all of our behavior. So it's more important than ever that we strengthen our constitutional rights rather than weaken them. And during COVID we were systematically. If you look at what happened during COVID once they figured out that they could, we were going to put up with the censorship. They went after all of our other constitutional rights. They went after. Also in the First Amendment is freedom of assembly. And they had the social distancing regulations so we couldn't assemble. We have. Freedom of worship is in the First Amendment. They shut down all the churches in our country for a year, and they kept the liquor stores open as essential businesses. And then they went after the fifth Amendment, which guarantees property rights. They shut every business down in our country. 3.2 million businesses without due process, without just compensation. They went after the seventh Amendment, which guarantees jury trials. And they said that if it's a company that is providing a countermeasure, no matter how negligent they were, no matter how reckless they were, no matter how egregious your injury, you can't sue them. They went after the fourth amendment, guarantees against the illegal search, unwarranted searches and seizures, saying every time you had to leave your home, you had to show your medical records. And so they systematically, in a single year, dismantled the entire Constitution of the United States. Nobody in the press complained. They just said, oh, it's because there's a disease. And, you know, during the American Revolution, there were two epidemics that killed tens of thousands of people. There was a smallpox epidemic and a malaria epidemic. And then after the Revolution, between the end of the Revolution and the ratification of the Constitution, there were tens of thousands of Americans who died from yellow fever, malaria, smallpox, and many other diseases. Framers all knew about pandemics, but they did not put a pandemic exception in the American Constitution. They wrote that Constitution for hard times or the times. They put freedom of speech not to protect speech that everybody likes to protect, the speech that nobody wants to hear. All of it's Protected. And it's protected whether there's an epidemic or war or anything. And there's been Supreme Court decision after Supreme Court decision. And Lincoln tried to ban habeas corpus because the war, a war that had killed 659,000Americans and was threatening the future of our country, he said, you still can't do it. It's the Constitution. You can't suspend it during wartime. And so somehow they convinced us, and in a disease that had a very, very small case, fatality of, I think, 1%, that suddenly we had to give up all of our Constitution. And that is the way that totalitarian systems function. They do it by raising fear and promising you security in exchange for obedience and compliance. And if you're an American citizen, part of the duty of citizenship, part of the civic obligation that we all have is to not fall for that kind of stuff.
Congresswoman (questioning RFK Jr.)
Here, here.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
I know there's got to be one person here that got confused and thought Carlos Mencia was playing tonight. I'm like, what the. What did I stumble into? Yes. And the part that's rich about it is all the people, including Gavin Newsom, who are calling Trump a dictator. The guy who closed the beaches and closed the parks and closed the schools and closed the churches and closed the outdoor dining at restaurants, the guy who took control of every freedom you had
Adam Carolla
and flushed it down the toilet is
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
the guys wagging his face, finger at the guy who wanted to open things up. That is rich to me. And it's insane. And people would talk to me, look at Trump with his dick there. You live in California. Trump is not in charge of California. Gavin Newsom's in charge of California. And your kids aren't going to school
Adam Carolla
today, so shut up.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
I remember when they, as I was living and, you know, in Brentwood at that time, time and going up to Malibu to surf. And I remember when they closed the surfing beaches and they were finding the surfers a thousand dollars a piece who were out there, and they were sending them home to a disease that only spread inside the home.
Adam Carolla
Right, right. No one ever got sick at the beach.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Yeah, I know. I mean, there was great. There's a great piece of footage. It's of kind, kind of fun to go back and look at the footage, go back and watch CNN, you know, in, oh, July 2020 and stuff like that. There's one great clip where Ron DeSantis had opened up Daytona beach and they sent a reporter out to cover it, and she was apoplectic on the beach going, look at these people. They're not even distancing. Look at them walking on the beach. Beach. By the way, their B roll was a guy laying down on a towel alone. Like, look at him. And then some couple was holding hands. By the way, the couple lived together, probably had sex 20 minutes ago in their apartment. Now they're hitting the refractory period on the sand, you know, but the fact that CNN dispatched a reporter to go out there and get her panties in a bunch, screaming, why is everybody walking on the beach? When you watch it now, it seems surreal. But a lot of it also seems like, you know, you go back and you watch commercials from the 50s, and it's a doctor smoking a cigarette, and he's like, hey, it's Joe Garagiola. Hey, would you like a cigarette, Joe? Many professional athletes, you know, and you look at it, you go, what the fuck were we thinking? That's crazy. All right? But that was in 1956. Like, that was a long time ago with the COVID stuff. You can go back four years and see a highlight reel of utter insanity.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Yeah. And, you know, and then they changed the goalposts. They kept saying, you know, you remember that, right? How the vaccines were going to prevent transmission. You had. Had to get them. Your grandmother wouldn't get sick, and that if you took one, you were protected for life. That's what they told us. And now they'll say, oh, no, we never said that. But, yeah, you can go look it up. That's what they told us. And then they changed it and said, well, 90% of the people have to get the shot. And then 80% and 70%, and then you have to get another one. And then you have to get another. They ended up recommending nine of them.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Nine? Nine shots?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Yeah, nine. So before I came into the agency, they just recommended the 9th. And we.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
They were like, what would kill a cat? 9. I want to ask you a couple more questions with our limited time. Are though the GLP1s now, I have no idea what your take is on the Ozempic and the Manjaro and all
Adam Carolla
that kind of stuff.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
And I sort of see both arguments. Like, on one hand, hey, you're morbidly obese.
Adam Carolla
This would be really good if you drop the weight.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
On the other hand, I think there's no free lunches in nature. And there's always something that goes along with the free lunches. Know, And I don't.
Adam Carolla
A lot of people talk about losing
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
muscle mass and things like that. I think it's losing your will. I think I think there's a discipline and intestinal fortitude that we used to have and we've given that up in the name of a pill or a shot or grubhub or whatever, whatever's coming right to our house for free today. You know, so I worry about these kind of mental implications of taking a shot because you don't have the discipline to do it the old fashioned way with kimchi and raw beef for breakfast. But what do you think about that subject?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
I mean, I think we have an obesity crisis now. We have 70% of Americans are obese or overweight. And most of those people have tried against and again to lose that weight and they haven't been unable to do it. And it's. Most of the disease that kills us in this country is related to obesity and it's costing us probably $3 trillion a year. And if there's ways that we can get people to lose weight, you know, GLPs have a lot of side effects and a lot of people can't stay on them for long. But for people for whom they work, it is transformative.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Should the government pay for since it's costing us so much to be fat?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Yeah, I mean, and that's why we did the MFN negotiations. So when I came into office, Ozempic cost $1,350 a month. And London, you could buy it for $88. In Frankfurt, Heidelberg, you could buy it for $88. And this was true of all of our drugs. We were paying 2, 3, 10 times more what the Europeans were for. The same drug made in the same factory in the same package. We did all the President's, the Democrat and Republican promised to change that. President Trump told me, I want this done. He called me every night. He'd call me at 2 o' clock in the morning and start say, is it done? And Oz too. And Oz called me and said, I'm not taking his phone calls anymore. Because he was so, you know, he was so exercised about it. And we went out, we used the tariffs. So we got the foreign governments to say to agree to raise their prices because we didn't want to put out of business. We had the power to negotiate with them. We had a lot of leverage over them. But President Trump said, we don't want them to go out of business because we want to continue to have America as a center for pharmaceutical innovation. And so we got the foreign countries to raise their prices. We then met with all 17 pharmaceutical companies and we negotiated separate deals for all of them. So now we're getting the cheapest drugs in the world. Americans will be paid less than any other country in the world. But the GLPs, now you can get them by July, you'll be able to. Elderly Americans, people who are over 65, will be able to get them on Medicare for $50 a month. And most Americans will be able to get them. You can go to TrumpRx and maybe $120 a month. We cut the price of 90% so they will be available to people and a lot of people. It's going to dramatically lower the price of health care in this country because most of our diseases, I would say 90% of our disease, are related to obesity. And if we can get people to lose weight, it will save us literally trillions of dollars.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
I didn't want to tattle, but these
Adam Carolla
ladies are eating zucchini sticks up there.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
And they were pretty liberal with the ranch sauce too. They weren't eating them dry, they weren't peeling them, they were bathing them in ranch. I knew you wouldn't be too happy, but I felt you needed to know. So maybe you can talk to him after the show. I'm sorry, you knew it was gonna happen. Should have put the napkin over it. So what about. Actually a question my son, who's 19, wanted me to ask because he's a fan, not a mine, obviously, but he likes you. And I told him I was talking to you and he said. I said, well, why don't you come up with three questions, you know, that you think might be good. And he won. Probably straight from his dad's mouth. The over prescribing of all the serotonin reuptake inhibitors, all of the medication that young people are on. It's insane again, how we started the show, but when I was a young person, I didn't know anybody that was on anything ever.
Adam Carolla
Anything.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
I. You could barely find my Lanta in someone's medicine cabinet. When I was growing up, I grew up in a house. We had aspirin. That was it. There's no prescription. No prescription for the adults, for the kids have anything. You just sort of, you know, whatever. You wrote it out. But if you could, if, you know, if you got, you know, if you had an upset stomach or you had a whatever, you would just go to the store. Store and buy something. You didn't just stock a pharmacy in your bathroom. And now all young people, it seems, are on something and it cannot be good.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Yeah, I mean, it's about 17% of the population is on SSRIs, what percentage? 17%.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
17.
Adam Carolla
All right.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
And you know, we sent out notices this week because the pharmaceutical industry, my predecessors in the government were encouraging this trend without really looking about what the long term impact was. And these, when they were tested and they got approval, there was an assumption that you would use them for maybe a couple of months to stabilize your life. And it turns out that once you get on them, it is very, very difficult to get off. And the withdrawal in some cases takes not weeks, not months, but years. And I had a relative who was very, very close to. It was a girl, young girl, who was on them for almost a decade. And when she got off him, she was suicidal every day for a year and she would wake up in the morning and say, I don't want to live. The only reason I'm staying alive is because of you guys. And that's a single story. But I've heard that from hundreds and hundreds of people now. And so we have directed FDA now to put on the label protocols for withdrawal and warnings that if you get on this, it may be really, really hard for you to get off. And I'm not telling people not to use psychiatric drugs. They work. The indication is maybe for 20% of the people who get on them that 80% of the people get no benefit or negative benefit.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Well, listen, if you, I've said for a million years if you would listen to classical music and hike in nature, you would get all the benefit out of, out of that pill. I, and now they've done studies, but I've always kind of known it. I mean, so much is your environment like you really got to get with nature, take a jump in a cold river kind of, kind of thing. Like when you're white water rafting with your family, you're not depressed.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Yeah, I mean, clearly the sedentary life. So, and the social media is contributing to this crisis and the malaise that we have now, the fragmentation, the atomization, the isolation that our kids feel. And a lot of that is driven by social media. A lot of it is driven by the food they eat, which affects their mental health and by other exposures which affects mental health in this generation. Like we, we were not experiencing, I believe many of them more than our generation, that the kids today, a lot of them do need stuff because they are damaged from all the environmental exposures that are challenging their metabolic health and causing body wide inflammation, including in their brain. And so they're suffering. There's a lot of suffering kids this generation. And you know, we got to eliminate the causes, we've got to get them on good food because that is the most important thing that they can do. And we got to get them active and outdoors and we have to restore the sense of community that they have in family. And, you know, one of the things people need to start cooking again at home, it's cheaper. You're going to get good food. You can get a very. I cooked a meal today with chef Andrew Gruel. Oh yeah, a salmon meal. And it cost $2.50ameal. And it was really high quality and excellent food. Food that you would get in a restaurant, but you have to cook it at home. It was at 12 minutes in the kitchen. One of the things, one of the advantages of that is that if we start, people have forgotten to cook, forgotten how to cook. We're actually sending the Commission Corps out, 4,000 uniformed officers, the public Health Commission, to teach people how to cook again, to teach them how to buy groceries, have the right cutlery, because they don't do it. And it's a sacred ritual. And it's a ritual that has kept families and human beings and a sense of community and connectedness since the beginning of time. And now that's gone from our lives. And the kids come home, they go to their rooms, they get on the social media. And we need to start bringing people together. And that's one of the ways that we need to start doing that, is to get people, persuade people to cook and have a meal with each other every day and start talking.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
I still sometimes think back as a youth, seeing my mom slaving over that
Adam Carolla
Hungry Man Salisbury steak dinner,
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
the sound of the foil peeling back, seeing the corn out, polluting the dessert in with the cobbler, the corn with the cobbler.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
It just.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
That almost brings a tear to my eye. But this guy grew up in a world class family. They had big meals together, they had huge families, but they convened with nature and they played rough and tumble sports and had zip lines. And the last question I want to know is falconry. I grew up in North Hollywood. We didn't have a lot of falconers. We didn't really have. Like, I didn't know anybody who owned their own bowling ball, much less their own falcon. How do you get into falconry? But how does it work? Do you have to get them as little chicks?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Oh, you. I started when I was, I started my first bird when I was nine years old. But I, I've had birds ever since. I've trained them my whole life. We. You trap a wild bird you trap them in September and when they're migrating and then train them. It takes about two to three weeks to train a wild bird, a wild falcon or hawk or falcon.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
So you capture them. You capture them, and then you got two or three weeks to sort of befriend them.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Yeah, you teach them using food. You teach them to come. Come when you call, just like a dog. And then you start hunting with them. And they take game. My birds hunt rabbit and squirrel, pheasant, turkey. And they follow you like dogs through the kind I hunt, Follow you through the canopy. They stay right over your head. I hunt with a dog, too. And they come when you call them and. And they get in the car, you know, when you're. When you're done. And, you know, it's something that I fell in love with when I was a kid.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
What do you feed them?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Well, you feed them animals, so. And that's one of the reasons that I pick up a lot of roadkills.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Oh, to feed the falcon? Yeah.
Adam Carolla
Oh, I see.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Falcons love whale. That's what I hear. Not normally part of their diet because they're too large, you know, But I did not know the roadkill was to feed the falcon.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Yeah.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Oh, okay. And how does a falcon hunt rabbit? Is he. Does he go out and hit the rabbit for you? Yeah, and bring it back.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
The falcons, actually, the falcons kill with speed, and so they'll hit it. They fly at 200 miles an hour, and they'll hit a bird in the air. Hawks take ground quarry, and they're the one. You know, I normally fly hawks, although I've flown everything. Normally I fly hawks, and they're just. They fly from a high perch. They take a high perch in a tree, and then they get momentum flying, you know, at ground quarry.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
And they get the rabbit. They kill the rabbit and bring it back.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Oh, they don't bring it back. They sit on it.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
They sit on it, and then you tell the dog to go bring it back.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Oh, no, you go get it. You have to go take it from them. I don't want to give it to you.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
They don't want to give it to you. Well, because they're figuring, let's cut out the middleman. What do I need this bossy guy for? I got a full rabbit right here. I got to give it to him. He breaks up a little piece of jerky and gives it to me, or
Adam Carolla
gives me some of that old roadkill.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
It's been in the car for three weeks. I got a fresh rabbit here. Why am I sharing. So they sit on it. And they don't want to give it up.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
No, they don't want to give it up. And they go into a state where it's sometimes there's tricks that you have to use to get them off the quarry, but they'll usually come up to your fist for a little piece of tidbit and then you put the game in your game bag. And.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
And what's the dog doing during this, the dog negotiation? Just looking confused.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Yeah. The dog has to be trained to hunt with the hawks because they own.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Could the hawk ride the dog? No. There's a cat killer Budweiser commercial out there. You guys can look it up. All right. Put your hands together for R. Yes, Stan. He's moved to Stan. He's got a podcast, the Secretary Kennedy Podcast, and you can find it at HHS Gov Website as well. Thank you guys for coming out tonight.
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Adam Carolla
Foreign.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
You from the deuce Oak hills of the coal fields of Western Kentucky. Gotta know what you think of Credence Clearwater Revival.
Dawson
Thinking about how you feel about Steve Miller. Band and hollow notes. Credence seems to me like one of
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
those bands that kind of anybody could do it.
Adam Carolla
What are your thoughts?
Dawson
You can leave us a message at 888-634-1744.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Yeah, well speaking of Steve Miller, I
Adam Carolla
was really I was listening closely to Take the Money and run his his hit and you Know we can find the lyrics to it, but.
Dawson
Oh, I know them all.
Adam Carolla
I know you know them all, but. Okay, first things first.
Congresswoman (questioning RFK Jr.)
Who.
Carvana Ad Voice
Who.
Adam Carolla
Take the Money and run. It's the simplest, dumbest, most fucked out thought. And by the way, it's just like a 70s thought. It's sort of like going, hey, I got an idea for songs about rambling. And you go, you mean the same idea that every fucking other band just had about rambling? Yeah, yeah, but I got a new thought about rambling. Take the Money and run. It doesn't mean anything. It was kind of. People liked a kind of outlaw, kind of Billy Jack, Bonnie and Clyde. They love that theme. This is the dumbest. Okay, here's what I'm saying. Before you do any art, before you pick up a paintbrush and go, I'm going to make a painting or chisel and go, I'm going, I'm Rodin, I'm going to make. I'm going to chisel a sculpture. I. Before you craft a joke, before you write a song, before you write a poem, when you sit down, think to yourself, do we need this?
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Do we need that?
Adam Carolla
Do we need another? Here's the story, okay, here's the story about Billy Joe and Bobby Sue. Okay, but I can only read the lyrics if you scroll the lyrics up. Thanks. Two young lovers with nothing better to do Than sit around the house, get high and watch the tube and here's what happened when they decided to cut loose. So they already have this totally fucked out Boy girl lovers on the run which was a theme in the 70s. So they cut loose, they headed down to, ooh, Old Paso, El Paso I
Dawson
always thought it said cool.
Adam Carolla
Old El Paso, El Paso, that's where they ran into a great big hassle. Billy Joe shot a man while robbing his castle Bobby sue took the money and run.
Dawson
Yeah,
Adam Carolla
go on, take the money and run. You know what? Okay then. Okay, there's about a ho ho and they took the money and Ron and hoo hoo. They took the money and Ron and then Billy Mack and that's not Billy Joe and Bobby, it's another guy named Billy. Billy Mack is a detective down in Texas. You know, he knows just exactly what the fax is. Yeah, because Texas and fax
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
rhyme.
Adam Carolla
Facts is, he ain't gonna let those two escape justice. He makes his living off of the people's taxes. Bobby sue, hoo hoo. She slipped away. Billy Joe caught up with her the very next day. They got the money, hey, you know they got away. They headed down south and they're still running today Singing Go on and take the money Go on, take the money okay, here's the thing. Here's what Steve Miller should do. All of his songs are just an excuse to hear him play the guitar. The rest are the shittiest lyrics and the dumbest themes. This is what you would Write if you're 11. If you're 11 and you weren't a great student and somebody said you gotta write the lyrics for a song. That's. That's. AI could do so much better than Steve Miller on every Steve Miller song lyrically. Let me tell you what. Steve Miller. Steve Miller, every one of his songs here, I'll do the lyrics. You know what? It should be go, hey, listen, me play the guitar.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Listen to these licks. Listen, I'm now gonna play the guitar. Here I go.
Adam Carolla
Then I'm going to play a good lick and that'll come back and go
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
another excuse for me to play the guitar. This is all just an excuse for
Adam Carolla
you to play the guitar. The song itself is junk. Go on, take the money and oh, Lord, go all It's a song about nothing that no one cares about. And it's. Get the out of here.
Dawson
It doesn't really have an ending.
Adam Carolla
Oh, by the way, you got your tag thing. Whatever your clank was the last time you were in, you got the clank going again. That's what it is. All right, so now Credence is quite a cut above that, but they're still pretty basic and they have some great licks and they have some great songs. But the old man who Lives down the Road. I never want to fucking hear that song.
Dawson
That's some solo phobia ever again.
Adam Carolla
I know that solo.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
He's got a hide.
Adam Carolla
Old man down the road. That's a horrible song I never need to hear again.
Dawson
Best Credence song. As long as I Can See the Light, I think.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Yeah, they got.
Adam Carolla
I got the good. Let's not insult Credence by lumping them in with Steve Miller.
Dawson
There you go.
Adam Carolla
That's what I'm saying.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
All right, what do you got perfect?
Dawson
Well, Christopher Nolan's the Odyssey is coming out this summer in July, and some people are pretty pissed about some of the casting, like Elon Musk on X. Musk's voiced his frustration regarding. You can see her picture there. Lupita Nuongo, her casting. That's Helen of Troy. That's Helen of Troy now played by a black woman. And then we've got Elliot Page playing Achilles
Adam Carolla
His Achilles heel was his vagina. I think that's a pretty. Pretty true statement, right? He's born with a vagina.
Dawson
There you go.
Adam Carolla
Mm.
Dawson
Yeah. Musk agreed with Matt Walsh on Twitter. Matt Walsh said, we were told that we shouldn't object to Helen of Troy being portrayed as a black woman. And yet if a major Hollywood studio made a film set in Africa and cast a white woman as the most beautiful woman in Africa, those same people would literally riot in the street. If, say, Sydney Sweeney was cast in the role, they'd be driven to murderous violence. Violence. And we all know that is the case. Now. Here's the point. It's a. It's a Christopher Nolan movie. Everyone's gonna go see it anyway.
Adam Carolla
Why is he doing this? I thought his thing was kind of accuracy and, like, he didn't do a lot of CGI and stuff. And he kept it real like. Like, you know, he did. We did a. He did a World War II movie. Didn't have black guys in there.
Dawson
Right. Well, one of the possibilities is that in order to qualify for the Academy Awards nomination, a film must feature at least one non white actor in a significant role. So that could have something do with it. I don't know, though. It's quite an all star lineup.
Adam Carolla
And do we know this is the lineup or is this a lot of hearsay?
Dawson
Oh, it's. It's shot, it's. It's done.
Adam Carolla
I know, but are people speculating? I've heard speculation that people are just out there stirring the pot on the Internet saying this guy's playing that role just to kind of rile people up. I don't know if it's carved in stone and they like. Is there an official statement?
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Here's it.
Adam Carolla
Who's in this movie? It's locked off. Yes, there have been 21. So they're all in the trailer and it's all done. It's not there. Just a. Piss off the folks at the Daily Wire. Okay.
Dawson
There's some great actors in this. They got Matt Damon, Tom Holland, Robert Pattinson, Anne Hathaway, Charlize Theron, John Bernthal.
Adam Carolla
All right, well, I'll watch it.
Dawson
Everyone's gonna see it anyway.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
You know the only thing he screwed up on his Dunkirk movie.
Dawson
What is.
Adam Carolla
There was a part at the end when the plane. He landed the plane on the beach. I think he went in. Dead stick, no prop. I mean, no power. Dead stick, they call it. He went in and he landed, and then I think he torched a plane. The P51 I'm sorry, the Spitfire. He torched it. And then they showed it burning, and he does everything realistically. So he made a big model of a Spitfire and burnt it down. But they showed it from a front angle, and you could see the prop was being held on by a broomstick, By a dow. There was no engine behind the prop. And I cried foul. I said, that would have a Rolls Royce V12 right behind the cowl in the front there. Not a stick holding the. Holding the prop on. What they were doing in the movies is somebody just said, mock up this thing. We're gonna burn it down. And the fucking prop department's not Gonna put a V12 there. They're just gonna burn down a model of it that doesn't fly or have controls or do any. There's no gauges or anything. They're just gonna burn it down. But this podcaster caught the stick holding the prop on, and that's when I knew that movie was fake.
Dawson
That was actually. I think that that was. That's my least favorite. That's my least favorite of the Nolan films.
Adam Carolla
I know, I liked it, but I'm a sucker for anything. World War II.
Dawson
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
You can see there's no engine behind the prop. There's just a stick holding the prop on.
Dawson
Makes sense.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. There should be a V12. Should be a V12 engine, which is a huge lump. There should be a huge engine.
Dawson
Right. And even if it burned out.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, should be. Should be right. Right there.
Dawson
Right.
Adam Carolla
But it's just a stick holding the prop.
Dawson
Maybe when he was dead, sticking it in. The engine fell out of the plane before it crash landed.
Adam Carolla
Show me. Show me a schematic, one of those schematics, like drawings of a Spitfire. Because we'll see where the prop is. It's gotta be right up against that, that. That V12. Anyway, sorry.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Anyway.
Dawson
That's all right. San Francisco parents are furious over what they call an unvetted and illegal ethnic studies course that was rammed through without meaningful input, citing division, citing divisive lesson plans. Like a privilege wheel that sorts students into an oppressor. Oppressed framework.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, we need school choice, by the way, I don't know who. You know, when these people are, like, they want to get rid of the Department of Education. Fucking well, yes, we do. Yes, we do.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Yes, we do.
Adam Carolla
You guys just shut schools down for two years because, Covid, you have all these fucking communist teachers and they're teaching your nine year old lesbian queer theory, right?
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Yes, we do.
Adam Carolla
And no one reads at grade level or does math at grade level. So yes, we do.
Dawson
What they are teaching is for children to hate each other based on how they were born, immutable characteristics, and that's what they're doing. I want to show you this privilege wheel because this is the big.
Adam Carolla
Oh, I want to see this.
Dawson
The big thing.
Adam Carolla
Wait, where's my Spitfire schematic? Forget this gay wheel, all right? Sorry.
Dawson
So as you can see on this privileged wheel, it says power in the middle. And if you're in that center wheel, if you're white, married, English or French, I don't understand that. A settler as opposed to indigenous people, a citizen or versus an immigrant. Urban versus rural, Male versus female.
Adam Carolla
Can I tell you this kind of conversation for me, Dawson? Like, I get that there's a lot of dudes that grew up pretty good and come from something. Let's say someone like, I don't know, Gavin Newsom, someone whose dad was lead counsel for Getty and lots of money and connected and knew the right people and Aunt Nancy Pelosi and all that. Best dressed in high school. I get some of those feelings, but you have to see it through my lens. I grew up with poor white people and got nothing from anybody ever. Except for not being able to be a fireman for LA City Fire Department. I was discriminated against because I was white. And then when they talk about women in power, all I've had is my ass kicked by women.
Dawson
Seems to be a lot of women
Adam Carolla
in power and never got a fucking job because of the color of my skin. And know nobody and have no connections and there's no money, there's no connections. There's no. That's Gavin Newsom's world. I get it. He feels guilty about it. But listen, bitches do not punish me. I got nothing from no one ever. Thank you.
Dawson
Well, one of the bigger problems here with. With the. This school board in the district and everything there is at the end of this article, it says only 41% of San Francisco eighth grade students were proficient in math last year compared to a target. Now, this is their target. Their target is 65%, right?
Adam Carolla
They're happy if two thirds of the
Dawson
students can do math by the ones. That's what they're happy about.
Adam Carolla
Wait, that's reading, right? Wait, we talk about reading.
Dawson
That was math and then reading. The third grade reading proficiency was just 51% below their target of 62%.
Adam Carolla
So their target is lower in.
Dawson
Why is that their target? Why is not their target? 100% of the students will be able to read when they come to this school.
Adam Carolla
I'll tell you why. Because it's like if you come in and you're riddled with cancer, your doctor's target is you're at 18 months, not you're gonna live another 30 years. He's setting a realistic target. They're so riddled with cancer that they're actually managing expectations. But they have the wheel. There's the homophobia, sex, heterosexism. I don't know what that one is. I don't know what that word is. Oh, ageism, ageism, ableism. These are like. These are new words. Xenophobia, gender, classism. Why? Colonialism, racism.
Dawson
I just. I don't understand. Why is this important in the curriculum?
Adam Carolla
What's this chick thing for schools? This is all piles of chick think. They love talking, they love doing nothing. They love making up words, they love discussion. They're satiated by the discussion. I've been telling people this for as long as I could talk. Women, when they talk about something enough, they're satiated by it as if it was done. Guys get frustrated by it. So if you talk to elon Musk for 400 years about tunneling through the Santa Susana pass, he's going to fucking kill himself because he's like, when are we going to do this? Women will talk about it and be satiated as if they have a tunnel, but they don't have a tunnel.
Dawson
We're gonna do this. Isn't it so great?
Adam Carolla
All right, so, yes, this is women, this is chick think. This is indoctrination. This is what they're gonna do, and this is what they are doing.
Dawson
All they are teaching children is how to despise each other based on immutable characteristics.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Dawson
Well done.
Adam Carolla
Well done.
Dawson
Isn't it against the law? And this is state funded. I know that in California the law's a little shaky, but it's now federal law that this is not allowed.
Adam Carolla
Yes, they're all race hustlers. Yes. And by the way, they're not just race hustlers. To be fair, they're gender hustlers and sexual proclivity hustlers. And whenever they can create a victim, they create a victim. Yes, that's their plan. The overall plan is create a victim and then have somebody explain that they're gonna stop the people from victimizing them. And then you need to vote me in so I can end this victimization. And then they never do because it's not really happening.
Dawson
Well, you know, it's funny how victim mentality has really taken over our Even. Even commercials on tv. Remember when. When the Publisher's Clearinghouse commercials would come on, you may already be a winner. And now you see commercials that say, you may be a victim.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Yeah.
Congresswoman (questioning RFK Jr.)
Yep.
Adam Carolla
You used to be a winner and now you got mesothelioma.
Dawson
Yep. Right.
Adam Carolla
All right, I'll spare you my artist mechanical drawing of a P51 Mustang, but rest assured, that huge engine sits right in front.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Oh, there it is.
Adam Carolla
I knew there'd be a drawing of it somewhere. And blow it up. Let's make sure we got it. Elliptical wing, by the way. Hard plane to fly. You can blow it up a little more if you can. It's a giant engine in front with a giant propeller attached pretty much directly to the front of the engine. Blow it up anymore. That's possible. It's all big. All right, we got it anyway. Christopher Nolan's a liar.
Dawson
Well, there you go.
Adam Carolla
That's what I'm saying. And Helen Otroyev was blonde.
Dawson
Helen.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
All right.
Dawson
Helen of Troy was supposed to be the most beautiful woman in Greece.
Adam Carolla
I know. They've been passing. You know, we've been passing. They've been trying to push two things. Super fat chicks are hot, and the most beautiful women in the world are emaciated, bald, black women with super long necks. And then we go, sorry, not into fucking. That I want to fuck Sydney Sweeney. And they go, no, no, this is the new face of beauty over here. And I go, that looks like a. Essentially a black mop handle. That's bald. I don't generally even like bald women.
Dawson
Generally.
Adam Carolla
There's nothing wrong with her, but she's got a super long neck. She's an A cup, and she's bald. You know what I like? I like hair and titties. You know what I like? I like what I don't have. You know what I mean?
Dawson
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
I want long hair, big titties. That's what I like. I don't want no titties, no hair. Shit, I could find that on half the dudes. I know.
Dawson
I'm having a brain fart right now. The.
Adam Carolla
I'll buy you a second.
Dawson
The lady who's saying nothing compares. Sinead o'.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Connor.
Dawson
Totally attractive woman with her bald head. No, not at all.
Adam Carolla
Well, listen, every woman with short hair looks better with long hair. And then people go, are you kidding? Look how beautiful. Yeah, but better with long hair. Hey, Andrew, I didn't talk to you about off the air, but Kamala Harris said this great one of her speeches about Power the other day. Yeah, I think it's recent. We have power, but she was talking about who has power and then some people don't have power. But then we all have power.
Dawson
We all have power.
Adam Carolla
It was like. It is such a bizarre zero talk, zero idea that can only be appealing to chicks and dumb people. Because there's nobody smart who's got a
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
cock who'd ever go, you know what? I like what she's saying.
Adam Carolla
She's literally just talking about power. Some people have it and then they don't. Except for we all do. It's a weirdest thing to me. It's baffling to me that she's the front runner and I have no idea what her thoughts are.
Dawson
Amazing.
Adam Carolla
I know. And you go like, all right,
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
well,
Adam Carolla
I don't like Trump. All right? Trump's in China and he's talking about trades and taxes and tariffs and manufacturing and trying to get back more manufacturing. You can go, well, fuck Trump. Okay, fuck Trump. But he's not talking about nothing.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
This is.
Adam Carolla
I don't know what her thoughts are about manufacturing.
Dawson
No.
Adam Carolla
Because I've never heard her say anything
Dawson
because she's unburdened by what has been.
Adam Carolla
All right, all right, let's hear it. It's funny.
Kamala Harris (clip)
Say, look, this is a moment where there are no bad ideas. No bad idea brainstorm is what I'd like to call it. And in that no bad ideas brainstorm, we talk about what we need to do and think about doing around the electoral college. We talk about the idea of Supreme Court reform, which includes expanding the Supreme Court. We invite a conversation about multi members districts. What we talk about, look, that. That if we win the Senate, which we should, and we will, then the Senate Judiciary Committee should have rules that they put in place. So when these people come before as nominees to the Supreme Court and lie that they are held to account and consequence, not just that somebody goes on cable news and says they lied, but that there are rules in place to actually penalize people for lying to a Senate Judiciary Committee.
Adam Carolla
What about when you lie about that
Kamala Harris (clip)
and we agree that it is right to have ethics rules for Supreme Court justices and let's put those in place.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Wait, is this like the power speech in it?
Kamala Harris (clip)
Statehood for Puerto Rico and D.C. these are the things I think that we've got to do. We've got to.
Adam Carolla
It might be at the end, but why are we looking at this one power sheep that says power? This is the first one that popped up.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
What'd you write in the search?
Adam Carolla
Let's see search was Kamala Harris power. Well, maybe it's at the end. Maybe it's at the end.
Kamala Harris (clip)
As these red states from cheating, cheating, including blue states expanding their maps. And all of this, I think, is. Is. Look, we gotta fight fire with fire. These folks are playing to win. We gotta play to win, too.
Adam Carolla
All right, now put the one where she says power. You'll find it just. But you have power. You give power. We have. We're now powerful.
Dawson
I wonder if she's doing that from her Malibu mansion. And that's why she blurred out the background.
Adam Carolla
Aha. Yeah, Gidget was hanging 10 back there. Gidget. It was a simpler time, Dawson.
Dawson
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
So whose name were you trying to figure out?
Dawson
Oh, I was trying to figure out. I couldn't think of Sinead o'. Connor. She was totally unattractive bald. But she's a beautiful woman.
Adam Carolla
She wasn't totally unattractive bald. She was much. She was not as good looking as she could be bald. It didn't make her totally unattractive.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
She was.
Adam Carolla
She lowered herself a couple of points. But she had long hair, you know. Yeah, she was better. Although I don't even know if I've ever seen her with hair.
Dawson
Well, I had never thought she was an attractive woman because I'd always seen her as bald. And then I saw a close up of her face and I was like, she's actually a very attractive woman.
Adam Carolla
That's what I'm saying.
Dawson
And I was not attracted to her at all. But simply because, yeah, she was.
Adam Carolla
I'm saying she'd still fall under the heading of attractive, but she's a lot better looking if she wasn't bald.
Dawson
Well, this next story coming from tmz, which is interesting because TMZ is saying that there's backlash surrounding Spencer Pratt and his mayoral campaign, insisting that he never lied about living in an Airstream trailer after being called out after actually staying at a ritzy Bel Air hotel. TMZ is the one manufacturing this backlash. TMZ actually put out a Twitter poll wondering if.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
If.
Dawson
If Spencer, quote, lying about living in an Airstream on his property has any effect on your thoughts about him. And the poll came out to be like 93% to 7%.
Adam Carolla
Mm.
Dawson
Nobody cares. But Spencer went on TMZ and let's. Let's hear what he had to say.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Campaign ad certainly made it seem that you were living in that trailer. It was a high point of the commercial. But you're at the Hotel Bel Air,
Adam Carolla
so kind of undo that for us.
Spencer Pratt
No, to be clear, that is where.
Carvana Ad Voice
Excuse me.
Spencer Pratt
That is where I live. That's where Karen Bass. Mayor Bass, burned down my house. That is where I will live until I have a new house. The Airstream is a temporary facility. A hotel is a temporary facility. Where my kids are in Santa Barbara right now is a temporary housing. This is where I live as. This is where they burn my house down. So this. This semantics or the nuance of. This is my. This is the consequences of. Of their failed leadership. And again, I don't live at the Hotel Bel Air. I don't live in the Airstream. I don't live in the Santa Barbara. I don't have a house. They burned it down.
Adam Carolla
All right.
Spencer Pratt
Yeah, he's.
Adam Carolla
He's doing. Look, let me explain something. We have footage from last week. It's Karen Bass, and she's helping to fill potholes.
Dawson
Oh, yeah.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Do you work on a road crew?
Carvana Ad Voice
Yeah.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Is that your full time job?
Adam Carolla
Is that the only pothole? Yeah, yeah. She's doing it for the cameras.
Dawson
Right.
Adam Carolla
And there's some hyperbole there.
Dawson
Can we be intellectually awesome?
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
When you see Gavin Newsom come out and he's going to help on the freeway overpass get rid of some of the graffiti. He works on it for 15 minutes. He's got his highway patrol guys have it cordoned off. They take a couple of pictures. He hands a roller to a Mexican, gets back in a limousine, and he's out of there. That. That's what they do now. But Spencer Pratt and I went to that. You know, I went by the way that's on the vlog that's out there right now if you guys want to check it out. But I went there, you know, first thing I saw is you can't really live here.
Dawson
Well, there's no infrastructure anywhere. Why would.
Adam Carolla
Well, it's also.
Dawson
You can't walk to the 711 and get a 12 pack.
Adam Carolla
This day and age. Whoa.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
I'm with you.
Adam Carolla
But listen, in this day and age, it's a huge security issue as well.
Dawson
Literally.
Adam Carolla
That thing, that Airstream, is a Coke can worth of aluminum around it. I mean, you get a.22 and you could pop that thing full of holes. The road is deserted almost. And above it, any person in the world could just pull up at night, take themselves any kind of weapon and just.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Right.
Dawson
His life is also under threat.
Adam Carolla
He's getting death threats from popping holes in there. So there are no. Yeah, there's no security person in the world that would say you gotta stay overnight Here. Yeah. He's using it as a symbol of Karen Bass failure. And then he is saying, this is my home. This is where I live. And he's doing a little politician hyperbole. But again, it's not that much different than TMZ busting Karen Bass for not filling the next pothole.
Dawson
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
All right, we have Kamala's video. I think she talks about power.
Kamala Harris (clip)
Cuz they are so afraid that when our young people start weighing in, they will be weighing in for change. And it scares these people. The power of the people scares these people. But, you know, here's the bottom line.
Adam Carolla
Hold on.
Kamala Harris (clip)
When you feel.
Adam Carolla
Hold on, pause. I get my pen out.
Dawson
Yeah. Bottom line, it.
Adam Carolla
She says bottom line, that's when I run for my steno pad, because these are going to be pearls. All right? So go back just a couple seconds. I just want to hear. Get my pen right. You know, I'm gonna lick my pen smart.
Dawson
Get that ink flowing.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Let's go.
Adam Carolla
Bottom line. Here we go, people.
Kamala Harris (clip)
But, you know, here's the bottom line. When you feel powerless, I believe you are powerless. When you feel powerful, you are powerful.
Adam Carolla
Okay, hold on.
Dawson
So if you feel powerless, you are powerless, but if you feel powerful and you are powerful.
Adam Carolla
Okay.
Dawson
Yep.
Adam Carolla
But, like, what if you're in a prison cell but you feel powerful?
Dawson
Then you are. You are powerful. It's only the feeling that matters.
Adam Carolla
She looks like Kathy Hochul. We just stopped frozen on a Kathy Hochul frame. All right, so run it back.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Just a couple secs.
Adam Carolla
Let me just make sure I got this right.
Dawson
Yep, yep.
Kamala Harris (clip)
You are powerful, and we are powerful.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Run it back.
Kamala Harris (clip)
Thank you.
Adam Carolla
All right, remember, run it back a couple seconds.
Kamala Harris (clip)
You are powerless when you.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Run it back.
Adam Carolla
Thank you.
Kamala Harris (clip)
When you feel powerless, I believe you are powerless. When you feel powerful, you are powerful, and we are powerful. So, thank you all. Emerge. I'm just so happy to be with you this afternoon. Evening. And please, everybody, be well. Take care of yourselves. Let's hold each other close. All right? We got a lot of work to do. We are powerful.
Dawson
We are.
Kamala Harris (clip)
I'll talk to you later.
Dawson
Talk to you later, guys. She is the front runner now for 2028.
Adam Carolla
All right, so if you feel powerless, then you're powerless. You feel powerful, then you're powerful. And guess who's powerful?
Dawson
We are.
Adam Carolla
All right. All right.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
Is that good?
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Feel powerful.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
I do. Yes.
Adam Carolla
All right, now empty the garbage, would you, please, for the love of Christ?
Dawson
You are powerful.
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
Dawson
Yep.
Adam Carolla
All right, go ahead. Okay, one more.
Dawson
Adam McKay, director of such films as Anchorman, Talladega Nights, Stepbrothers slammed white liberals during a recent interview on a podcast. And it's not as good as you like when you hear that. All right. Yeah.
Adam Carolla
Good. Waking up.
Dawson
No, no. He says, do we have the video for. From the podcast?
Adam Carolla
Mm.
Dawson
Let's hear what he has to say.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
And no group is worse than white liberals. I mean, they are the worst. I. I've tried to talk to them about climate. They are so smug and captured and. And really, it boils down the privilege. I mean, when you talk to white money liberals, they're getting a lot from this broken system.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. All right, so what I said. Well, he.
Dawson
He actually. Adam McKay left the Democratic Party after Trump won in 2024, and he became a Democratic socialist.
Adam Carolla
Oh, boy. So there'll be no more comedy for him.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
No.
Adam Carolla
Cause people get all caught up. I get all serious.
Dawson
Right. When I first saw this headline, though, I was like, all right, more Hollywood people waking up a little bit.
Adam Carolla
It'd be nice.
Dawson
No, he's taking a hard left and a hard left.
Adam Carolla
Let me tell you a Hollywood story, Dawson.
Dawson
Tell me that.
Adam Carolla
I came upon. It came upon me when I was on a walk and I was thinking, and I was hearing about how much open studio and soundstage space there was in LA because of all the production that was fleeing. Right, right. So I hearkened back. I said, oh, you know what? I've been working this town for a long time, and we have nothing but empty sound stages now because everyone fled. In 1996, I believe. Could have been 97. I think it was 96. I did a pilot named Ordinary Extraordinary.
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
It's a stupid.
Adam Carolla
It was like those incredible people or something. It was me and John Ritter and Ms. Lianza Cornett or something, like Ms. USA or something. And they were shooting this pilot. It was a network pilot, and I was the comic relief. And Lianza and John Ritter were kind of the host. And this is 1996, and we're shooting this pilot. And they go, we gotta do the whole thing in Orlando. And I said, well, no one is from Orlando. The production company, Ritter, me, Everyone's in la. Why I have to go to Orlando? They said, they're booked. They're out of space. There is no studio or soundstage space in all of Los angeles. This is 30 years ago.
Dawson
Okay?
Host/Interviewer (possibly a co-host or comedian)
30 years ago. There is no more sound.
Adam Carolla
We can't find a soundstage in la. They're all booked. They're all packed. We're going to Orlando. We went to, like, Disney World in Orlando. We shot on stage there. Smash cut to a whole bunch of shit policy and a whole bunch of Democrats in charge and a whole bunch of progressive this and that, whole bunch of tax and regulation. And 30 years later, these crickets, these places are all wide open and they can't fill them and they can't even rent them out. That's what bad policy. It goes from work capacity. You guys gotta go to Orlando to we got nothing.
Dawson
We got nothing. So you gotta go to Orlando anyway, right?
Adam Carolla
All right, you Sunday, Costa Mesa, California, Westwood coast. Doing a couple of shows there. Also Friday, Oklahoma City. That's June 12th. Gonna be doing some shows at Bricktown Comedy Club. Two shows there Saturday, Tulsa, Oklahoma. Bricktown Comedy. Oh, okay. Yeah, doing shows there Friday and Saturday. You go to AdamCarolla.com for all the live events. Dawson, you got anything coming up?
Dawson
Yeah, I'm at the ice House on June 12, so join me out there.
Adam Carolla
So till next time, Adam Carolla for RFK Jr. And Dawson saying mahalo.
Dawson
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Episode Date: May 18, 2026
Guests: Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Location: Covina Laugh Factory, California
This special live edition of The Adam Carolla Show features an in-depth conversation with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., current U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services. Adam and RFK Jr. discuss health, nutrition, media narratives, censorship, and cultural shifts, peppered with Carolla’s signature comedic rants and audience Q&A. The duo tackles public health, the aftermath of the pandemic, obesity, medication overuse, freedom of speech, and cultural controversies, while also finding time for irreverent takes on pop music and film casting news.
Addressing Mold Controversy
"She had an engineering survey of the house. It was not toxic when we left it.”
On Building Immunity and the Hygiene Hypothesis
"That’s called the hygiene hypothesis...people who are constantly exposed to pathogens, the bacteria develop a stronger immune response...I could actually rub poison ivy on my body, and I won’t get an outbreak."
"...a lot of chemotherapy patients do much worse if they’ve had antibiotics because it weakens their microbiome. They're using fecal transplant therapy to restore the microbiomes..."
Carnivore Diet with Ferments
"I went on the diet for 30 days. I lost 20 pounds...I had lost 40% of my internal fat. And that's where all the disease is..."
Changing Dietary Guidelines
"...the government was lying to us for 60 years saying protein cause heart attacks...there’s no scientific evidence for that..."
America’s Poor Pandemic Outcomes Explained
"It was almost impossible to die from COVID if you were completely healthy. It happened, but it was rare..."
Media, Pharma, and Censorship
Adam and RFK Jr. critique the symbiotic relationship between mainstream media and Big Pharma, censorship of dissenting voices, and the lack of honest debate.
(20:38) RFK Jr.:
"I saw the censorship earlier than other people because I was experiencing it since 2005...as soon as I took that public position, [against vaccines] it all disappeared..."
(24:01) RFK Jr.:
"...there's only one other nation that allows it [pharmaceutical ads on TV], which is New Zealand...we provide 75% of the revenues for the pharmaceutical industry, and yet we’re the sickest population in the world..."
"...it [autism incidence] was 0.8 per 10,000. Today, it's 1 in 31—and in California, it's 1 of every 19 kids...my agency, NIH, has engaged in regulatory malpractice in not telling the answer to that question."
Culture Wars and "Trump Derangement Syndrome"
"We need an ICD code for Trump Derangement Syndrome because it is a real thing..."
Congressional Hearings Are "All Theater"
"...it's all theater...I go to their office, and they're very kind and congenial, and then a half hour later, I see them berating me in the most vitriolic way..."
"If you look at what happened during COVID...they systematically, in a single year, dismantled the entire Constitution of the United States...Framers all knew about pandemics, but they did not put a pandemic exception in the American Constitution..."
On GLP-1 Drugs (Ozempic, Mounjaro, etc.)
"...if there's ways that we can get people to lose weight...it will save us literally trillions of dollars..."
Reducing Drug Prices
"Now we're getting the cheapest drugs in the world...Americans will be paid less than any other country in the world. The GLPs, now you can get them by July, you'll be able to...get them on Medicare for $50 a month..."
SSRI Overuse Crisis
"...about 17% of the population is on SSRIs...once you get on them, it is very, very difficult to get off..."
Holistic Mental Health
"...we gotta eliminate the causes, we've got to get them on good food...and get them active and outdoors and we have to restore the sense of community that they have in family..."
"I started my first bird when I was nine years old...you trap a wild bird...and then train them. It takes about two to three weeks..."
On the American Medical Complex and Pharma Influence
(24:01) RFK Jr.:
"...we have 4.2% of the world's population. We provide 75% of the revenues for the pharmaceutical industry, really? And we're the sickest population in the world..."
On COVID Policy and Overreach
(46:17) RFK Jr.:
"...they systematically, in a single year, dismantled the entire Constitution..."
On SSRIs
(61:06) RFK Jr.:
"...80% of the people get no benefit or negative benefit..."
Adam on Steve Miller Band’s Lyrics
(77:16) Adam Carolla:
"It's the simplest, dumbest, most fucked out thought...AI could do so much better than Steve Miller on every Steve Miller song lyrically."
On Changing the Food Pyramid
(15:24) RFK Jr.:
"When I came into office...the dietary guidelines...were written by food industry lobbyists...so we brought all the best nutritionists in the country...They did science based guidelines which put protein...back."
On "Chick Think" in Schools
(91:48) Adam Carolla:
"What's this chick thing for schools? This is all piles of chick think. They love talking, they love doing nothing. They love making up words, they love discussion..."
RFK Jr. on Trump Derangement
(31:45) RFK Jr.:
"We need an ICD code for Trump Derangement Syndrome..."
"When you feel powerless, I believe you are powerless. When you feel powerful, you are powerful, and we are powerful."
The tone fuses Adam Carolla’s irreverent, fast-paced comedy with RFK Jr.’s earnest, sometimes technical, health advocacy. No topic is off-limits—public health policy gets the same no-holds-barred treatment as 70s pop lyrics or Hollywood casting. Both champion old-school values: resilience, skepticism of authority, self-reliance, free speech, and the power of community and tradition.
Useful For
Anyone interested in the intersection of health policy, personal freedom, political media, and culture, with a side of classic Carolla comedic bombast. Even if you missed the episode, this summary gives a complete overview of the major themes, unfiltered dialogue, and live energy of a landmark podcast event.