Randy Travis on How AI Helps Him Make Music Again + Perez Hilton Situation

Summary

The Adam Carolla Show

Episode: Randy Travis on How AI Helps Him Make Music Again + Perez Hilton Situation
Date: August 6, 2026

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Episode Overview

Adam Carolla hosts an engaging conversation with country music icon Randy Travis and his wife Mary Travis, focusing on how artificial intelligence (AI) is enabling Randy to make music again after his 2013 stroke. The conversation offers insights into Randy's recovery, the evolution of his touring and performances, and the role of AI in his latest musical projects. The second half of the episode, co-hosted with Rudy Pavlitz, shifts to pop culture and current events—discussing the Perez Hilton situation, criticism of public figures over pandemic controversies, transgender issues in sports, and broader social commentary in Carolla’s signature candid style.

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Detailed Summary

1. Randy & Mary Travis: Life After Stroke & Music Through AI

[01:03–45:37]

Background and Stroke Recovery

• Adam warmly welcomes Randy and Mary, noting Randy’s iconic role in country music and his influence on the genre.
• Mary recounts Randy’s medical crisis: It started as (misdiagnosed) pneumonia, which led to a heart-related viral cardiomyopathy, resulting in a major stroke and coma. The aftermath included paralysis on the right side and aphasia (the inability of the brain to send signals to the mouth).
  • Mary: "Once they realized that he was paralyzed on the right side, the hope was... survival number one... But I think what the prayer was, was just to have life!" [03:31]
  • She highlights the uniqueness of each stroke, their fortune in avoiding repeated hospitalizations, and the importance of being with fans.

Randy’s Return to the Stage

• Adam discusses Randy's Hall of Fame induction, where Mary clarifies that she gave the speech but Randy surprised everyone by singing “Amazing Grace”—his first public performance post-stroke.
  • Mary: “He sang all four verses of it... music is something that's ingrained. It comes from the memory side and not the conversational side.” [05:03]
  • She explains how aphasia disrupts Randy’s ability to speak, but musical memory has survived.

Pre-Stroke Career and Life

• Adam recalls Randy’s multi-faceted talents, mentioning film roles and a demanding touring schedule pre-stroke.
• Mary shares, “He was really a trick in the bag for a studio and for a movie set because he could do anything they needed him to do... The day we went to the hospital... we were packing the bus to go to Canada for a two week tour. So it was a busy schedule. And it came to a screeching halt.” [07:21]

Touring Today: Collaboration and AI

• Adam asks about current live shows. Randy is on stage, but singing is now done by James Dupre and occasionally guest artists, including some female vocalists.
  • Mary: “James does the singing along with Randy's original band... But Randy is up there and you can tell that he's orchestrating and directing everything.” [08:51]

Choosing James Dupre & Approach to Performing Randy’s Songs

• Mary explains how Dupre was selected: They’d worked together on a film; his “presence on stage was much like Randy’s... a beautiful voice.”
  • James doesn’t impersonate Randy; he brings his own style to the songs.
  • Mary: “His voice is James's and he has his own catalog of music.” [11:48]

AI-Driven Music: How It Works and Its Ethical Implications

• Mary details the AI project’s origin: Warner’s Chris Lacy proposed experimenting with AI to reconstruct Randy’s singing voice.
  • Randy approved and actively participated—using vocal stems from 42 of his previous songs, sessioned with familiar musicians, and deeply involved in production.
  • Mary: “If nothing else, it would serve as a great example of good use of AI... It was Randy wanting to do the project because the stroke barred his voice.” [12:40]
  • The AI process took 11 months for a single song, involved meticulous input, and layered “Randy’s” voice over new performance beds.
  • Adam reflects: “If you weren’t born, AI couldn’t simulate your voice. It’s kind of an interesting distinction.” [18:09]

Technology’s Evolution & Society’s Adaptation

• Adam and Mary draw analogies to societal changes: how people once resisted landline-free homes and how new generations will come to accept AI as ordinary.
  • Mary: “Technology, though, everybody's afraid of it until they understand it.” [20:31]
  • Conversation shifts playfully to their Texas home, their animals (especially miniature donkeys vs. Schwarzenegger’s), and lighter moments about rural life.

Songwriting, Royalties, and Business Changes

• Adam probes music industry economics. Mary says staying with Warner and one long-time producer helped them avoid some “scrambled eggs” — the confusion and loss many artists face with rights and royalties.
  • Mary: “We are able to (earn) in a different way, not to the capacity that he did before... But we're okay with that. We're surviving, we're having a good time.” [38:31]
• Adam shares his own industry anecdotes, commiserating about the era of “getting paid for nothing.”

Notable Quotes

• Adam (on AI voice): “Your voice is something that’s different. If you weren’t born, AI wouldn’t have the ability to do that.” [18:09]
• Mary: “It’s the best it can be under the circumstances, and we're very grateful for that.” [03:31]

Key Timestamps

• [05:09] – Randy’s Hall of Fame “Amazing Grace” performance
• [12:40] – The AI process explained
• [20:31] – Technology’s social adjustment
• [38:31] – Industry economics and touring realities
• [45:09] – Announcement: new album/tour info due September at randytravis.com

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2. Culture, News, and Social Commentary with Rudy Pavlitz

[48:55–End]

Perez Hilton’s Crisis and Internet Sympathy

• Rudy recounts Perez Hilton’s disturbing TikTok livestream showing self-harm, after which he was hospitalized for psychiatric evaluation. Discussion centers on Hilton’s controversial career and public reaction—many are less sympathetic given his past “outing” of others and perceived mean-spiritedness.
  • Adam: "He's had his moment... I think a lot of people aren't feeling sorry for him because of how he made his living... But you sort of wish him Godspeed." [76:10]

Aaron Rodgers, Vaccine Controversy & Hypocrisy Clip

• Adam rails against NFL legend Terry Bradshaw, who scolded Aaron Rodgers for alleged dishonesty about vaccination. Adam defends Rodgers, framing his ‘lie’ as an understandable reaction to social coercion.
  • Adam, passionate rant: “He lied because you forced him to take an experimental vaccine that he, of all people, healthy, strong, and young, didn't need... You Nazis forced people to lie. You understand?” [80:28]

Notable Pop Culture & Political Riffs

• Debates about the trans movement in Hollywood and sports, especially regarding famous families, the proliferation of transgender identities among celebrities, and societal double standards.
  • *Adam and Rudy joke about “bro out” vs. “brogue”, and how society reacts differently to women vs. men being vegetarians or experimenting sexually, riffing about a Jenny Jones show clip for illustration.
  • Adam (with comic timing): “With dudes, you're like, nah, nah, gay. You don't realize that when you're straight, the notion... it's really up there with killing a pet.” [53:27]

Biden’s Shifting Positions on Gay Rights

• Extended comedic analysis of Joe Biden’s past and current statements regarding gay rights, with clips showing inconsistencies.
  • Adam: “Now they didn’t... left out the rest of the story... get a fire extinguisher, piss into it... and I’m going to spray these homos!” [64:30]
• Adam rails against politicians’ “revisionist history” about social issues.

Chaos and Control: A Cultural Critique

• Using the 1960s show Get Smart as a metaphor, Adam likens the current ideological/cultural climate to a battle between “Chaos vs. Control”—asserting that many on the far left just want “chaos.”
  • Adam: “I’m realizing these fuckwads just want chaos. I don’t know what they want. Autonomy zones, chop zones, defund the police... they just want chaos.” [95:13]

Transgender Athletes Debate

• Discussion shifts to Trump’s WNBA coaching comments and absurdity of biological males in women’s sports.
  • Adam asserts: “I would reckon a 13 to 14 year old international all-star basketball team of males would beat the average WNBA team... you have women’s sport for women, so they can have it.” [88:29, 91:03]
  • Examines cases in tennis (Serena/Venus vs 203rd-ranked man), French trans basketball star dominating women’s league, and social media calls for WNBA integration.

Additional Comic Segments

• Light-hearted debates over the intelligence of different animals (lab, donkey, horse, buffalo) on Travis’s Texas ranch.
• Riffing on historical "what-ifs" about space travel and the moon, mocking claims about “indigenous sky country.”

Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Adam: “Eat a dick, Terry. And by the way, this horse paste stuff... it’s been given to 3.7 billion humans. Ivermectin. Terry Bradshaw can’t avail himself of that information.” [81:34]
• On the fluidity and constant public focus on trans issues: “It’s all I’ve heard. I could go with the Hoover Dam... Nonstop tranny talk over the last decade. I feel really schooled up, super educated.” [99:20]
• On societal chaos: “You just want chaos. That’s all. You go to downtown LA, it’s chaos... and the other side was called Control.” [96:30]

Key Timestamps for Notable Segments

• [76:10] – Perez Hilton self-harm crisis
• [78:59] – Adam’s animated defense of Aaron Rodgers
• [88:29/91:03] – Trump’s WNBA comments + debate on trans athletes
• [95:13] – “Chaos vs. Control” metaphor explained

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Resources & Links

• Randy Travis Tour & New Album Info: RandyTravis.com
• Rudy Pavlitz Live Dates: rudypovichcomedy.com
• Adam Carolla Show: adamcarolla.com

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Final Thoughts

This episode offers an intimate and hopeful look at Randy Travis’s journey—how love, perseverance, and technology have kept his music alive. Adam Carolla’s second-half rants and riffs provide his unfiltered comedic take on contemporary pop culture, media hypocrisy, and the societal debates of the moment. At its core, the episode is a mix of inspiring stories and provocative, sometimes hilarious social commentary, blending heartfelt moments with pointed satire in the trademark Carolla style.

Transcript

[Adam Carolla]

Well, in this episode, country legend superstar Randy and Mary Travis. That's right. His wife joins as well. We'll talk to them also news with Rudy and we'll do that right after this. I started Ornod in 2013 and we make bike apparel. The best part of Shopify for me is our ability to run the business as essentially non technical people. We're able to admin everything on the back end, front end and sell things online easily. If Shopify were a bike accessory, I think it would actually be the bicycle. It's the thing that you do the thing on. We run the business on Shopify. Start your free trial on shopify.com.

[Dawson]

From Corolla One studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Carolla Show. Adam's guest today, Randy and Mary Travis. Plus the news with Rudy Pavitz.

[Adam Carolla]

To now, Adam Carolla. Yeah, get it on, got to get it on no choice but mandate to get it on. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for telling a friend the rating's been going up. I like that. Of course, you know who Randy Travis is. His wife Mary Travis and Randy have joined us via Zoom. Randy suffered a stroke in I think 2013 and it's affected his ability to speak. But I watched some tape, I don't know, I understood what he was saying. There's a tour coming up, there's albums, there's all kind of stuff. Randy's sold more than 25 million records worldwide. Big part of all our, I don't say childhood, just a younger version of us. So good to see you guys.

[Mary Travis]

Good to see you too. Thank you for having us.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. So a very interesting story. And an interesting story. So Randy, of course a household name country singer, paved the way for so many people, sort of ushering in a kind of a new brand of country and traveling playing, selling millions of records, has a stroke. And what originally was the prognosis with the stroke?

[Mary Travis]

The original prognosis? The first, first day we went to the doctor, they said it was pneumonia, walking pneumonia. The second time we went back, they said full blown pneumonia. Then it went into, he flatlined. And that's when they feel like he threw the clot for the stroke. But he was in a coma for three days. When they pulled him out, found out that he had had the massive stroke. Then the heart hospital, Dr. Michael Mack, he diagnosed viral cardiomyopathy, which was a virus that hit the heart, that shut down the lungs. So it was viral cardiomyopathy that started the whole thing.

[Adam Carolla]

And how has the rehab and recovery been, for instance, what was the hope? I mean, obviously, the original hope is that you live, and then the second one is, will you be able to walk? Will you be able to communicate things of that nature? Where was it shortly after the stroke?

[Mary Travis]

Well, once they realized that he was paralyzed on the right side, The hope was, just like you said, survival number one after five and a half months in the hospital. But I think what the prayer was was just to have life and be able to live a life that we knew it would never be normal again. Anybody that has had a stroke or had a loved one with a stroke, every single stroke is different because there's billions and billions of brain cells that get affected in different ways. So the aftermath is always different. Ours was just that he would not be bedridden and in and out of the hospital the rest of his life, as they supposed it would be. And we hadn't been back to the hospital, and we're not bedridden, and we get to go out and still be with his fans. So I think it's the best that. It's the best that it can be under the circumstances, and we're very grateful for that.

[Adam Carolla]

So, Randy, I saw you were inducted into the country hall of Fame, and I think you gave a speech and you were able to get through that. So what can you. I know you kind of communicate through Mary, but what can you say to us.

[Mary Travis]

At the hall of Fame induction? I gave the speech, but he sang Amazing Grace.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, that's what it was.

[Mary Travis]

And he sang all four verses of it. And I think that just lends to the fact that with a stroke, depending on the hemisphere of the brain that's affected, music is something that's ingrained. It comes from the memory side and not the conversational side, if you will. So his left side was affected, and that is what allows us to carry on a conversation. Plus, he was left with aphasia, which is the inability for the brain to send signals to the mouth. Even though he knows what he wants to say, he can't say them, and that's aphasia.

[Adam Carolla]

People didn't know he was going to sing during the induction.

[Mary Travis]

We didn't tell anyone, and that was on purpose because I wanted it to be his choice. And if he felt comfortable doing it, since he had not sang in public since the stroke, and this was three years out, and he said yes. And he took the microphone and off he went with all four verses. And it touched quite a few people

[Adam Carolla]

that evening before the stroke. Was it just a very vigorous touring schedule as well? As acting. I mean, people may forget Randy's done his fair share of acting. Let's see. In National Treasure, one of my favorites, the second one I think I figured out, somebody figured out around here. But Black Dog, a crazy trucker film with Swayze back in the day. I mean, I guess Randy always had a very theatrical, interesting look that would lend itself to the big screen. And I guess as a person that goes out on stage every night, you understand performing and you can kind of translate it. But before the stroke, was it. Was it endless touring, just constant touring?

[Mary Travis]

It was a lot of touring, a lot of different events that he would be a part of. The award shows and a lot of the acting. He really enjoyed the acting part of it. He enjoyed the westerns, being a country boy raised on a horse on a farm, enjoying the guns as far as Quick draw and all of the things that he was able to do. Running horse mounts. So he was really. He was a trick in the bag for a studio and for a movie set because he could do anything they needed him to do. Drive fast cars and all the things that Randy did as a youngster that he said. He said was a misspent youth, but he said he learned a lot and those are some of the things that he took to the screen. But yes, it was when we were actually. The day that we went to the hospital and we didn't return home for five and a half months, but we were packing the bus to go to Canada for a two week tour up in Canada. So it was a busy schedule. And it came to a screeching halt.

[Adam Carolla]

And I know there's live dates that you guys are doing now and I know you have guest singers doing Randy's songs. And Randy, can Randy participate in that vocally?

[Mary Travis]

Only words, simple words, you know, the amens and the word. He can words, but not. He's up on the stage with James Dupre that does the singing. Unless we're in certain cities and we have guest artists or a local artist that would like to participate in maybe an opening or singing one song. But for the most part, James does the singing along with Randy's original band that some of them have been with him for 40 years. But Randy is up there and you can tell that he's orchestrating and directing everything that's going on as far as players kicking in at the right time. And it's fun to watch Randy up there because he's very much a part of the show itself.

[Adam Carolla]

How did you arrive at James Dupree?

[Mary Travis]

Well, they had Done a movie together. Right before Randy's stroke, we had a producer that had called us and said, I've written a movie and I want Randy to play the older country artist. There's a younger country artist named James Dupre from Louisiana. We said, well, we know of him.

[Ad Read / Commercial Voice]

He.

[Mary Travis]

Cause Kyle Lenning had told us about him years ago. He said, oh, you gotta listen to this kid from Bayou chico, Louisiana on YouTube. And so we did. And beautiful voice, great kid. Well, I call him a kid. Cause he's half our age, but a beautiful family. And so when they said, who do you want singing? We just liked his style. And his presence on stage was much like Randy's with just a beautiful voice. So it was a natural. And they had so much fun shooting the movie that they did as a father, son, country pair. So that's why we picked James.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. So then they. You know, I was kind of thinking about it like on when I first. You know, when you first hear the idea, you know, well, it's an evening with Randy Travis. You got the original band, Randy's on stage, Someone else is singing Randy's songs. Then one part of me thought, well, I guess you need someone who sounds like Randy. But then the other part of me thought, well, then that becomes like a Michael Jackson impersonator or something. But you just need someone who can do a really good job with Randy's songs. And I don't know if you want someone who sounds exactly like Randy, but I don't know how that process went. And maybe, I don't know, maybe we can pull up James singing one of Randy's songs. I don't know if that gets us kicked off of YouTube now or how that works. But does James go, I'm gonna try to sound like Randy? Or James go, I'm gonna do my own thing on Randy's songs.

[Mary Travis]

He does his own thing on Randy's songs. And that's the way it's been from the start. We are fortunate enough now to have some Randy songs coming out of RA vocals prior to the stroke in this new album. But. And then there's the AI songs. That was a test, and we thought it was a good test because Randy blessed the whole project. So those play. And so they. People do hear Randy's voice. But no, James does not try to impersonate Randy or sound like Randy. And when you hear him sing, you will understand why. Why we chose him, like I said. But his voice is James's and he has his own catalog of music. So that's.

[Adam Carolla]

Does Explain how the AI works.

[Mary Travis]

Well, that was an interesting project. Four years ago, Chris Lacey from Warner called us and said, we want to try this AI thing with Randy. It was brand new as far as a platform or anything. Two gentlemen in London had a model and as you know, four years ago it was kind of foreign to everybody, but now it's right here. It's in our living rooms, it's with us everywhere we go. So we thought since Randy was still alive and he could still go into the studio with Kyle Lenning, his career long producer, and he went into the studio with session players, some of which played on Storms of Life, his original album. So he was. His heart was in it, his soul was in it. It was so much Randy Travis that we thought it was. If nothing else, it would serve as a great example of good use of AI because we all have been introduced to it since then and it was in no way pirating on Randy Travis. It was Randy wanting to do the project because the stroke barred his voice and has not given it back yet. So we thought that that would be a good way to. And we. We enjoyed the process and it did. We spent 11 months making the first song, which people think you just put it in a computer and use what you got. But they spent hours making sure that the words and the phrasing and the timing and the sound was Randy. They spent. They sent 40 stems, raw stems of Randy's vocals from 42 different songs over his career to these gentlemen in London. And that's what they used to lay over a vocal bed. So it's like a clothesline with vocal stems laid over it. And the vocal bed was laid down by James.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it's interesting. We have James live, which I'm told for some reason YouTube will permit. I don't. I'm old. I don't know what the rules are.

[Mary Travis]

How do we figure that out?

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know. Well, they make. They make them up as they go. So we'll play. We'll play a couple moments of that just so we can hear James. James's voice. Last night I dug a picture out from my old dresser draw, set it on the table and I talked to it till four, passing all of the letters right up till the great dawn. I been sitting long enough. I've been through the jewelry and I found my wedding rings. I put mine on my fingers I

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

gave yours a fl.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm digging up bones I'm digging up

[Dawson]

bones

[Adam Carolla]

yeah, he sounds good.

[Mary Travis]

He's Great voice.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, that was hard to tell.

[Mary Travis]

On that. But, yes, he is a great voice.

[Adam Carolla]

I can tell. Do you ever have females sit in?

[Mary Travis]

We do. We have had. We have had Emily Ann Roberts. We have had Alexandra K. We've had Trying to think other females.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I get it. I mean, the answer is yes.

[Mary Travis]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Sorry. No, that's right. I thought. It's kind of. It's interesting now that I'm wrapping my mind around it, which is obviously females are not doing a Randy impersonation, but it's just taking the songs and relying on the strength of the songs, which is nice, showing that anybody, regardless of gender, can still dig out a great song. So AI is interesting because there's AI as it pertains to the creative. Let's say AI can write a movie script. They could write a comedic. Comedians act, you know, jokes and stuff like that. And so when you use AI for that, you go, well, AI wrote that script, not a. Not a person. Or AI wrote that joke, not a person. But if you're AI ing Randy Travis's voice, it may be AI, but it's still your voice, which AI, if you weren't born, AI wouldn't have the ability to do that. I guess it's kind of an interesting distinction.

[Mary Travis]

It is. And I've never thought about that, but that's very true.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. If I wasn't born, AI could still write jokes, but your voice is something that's different. And actually, AI could try and write a Randy Travis song if you put in enough stuff. And you might get something that was okay, but the voice is still yours, and AI's simulating that. It's a very interesting time. And I'm just guessing, people will just become familiar with AI. Younger generations won't think much about it. Just like they don't think anything about a smartphone to us. I mean, the phone was bolted to the wall in the kitchen. Like, the biggest innovation at my house was the extended cord from the receiver to the actual phone so you could get to the stove without having to hang the phone up. The biggest innovation was a longer cord. And I guess the biggest breakthrough was the push button versus the. The rotary. The rotary style. And it's so. It is crazy. Cause I moved into a house, it was right about. It was right about 10 12. About 10, 12 years ago. And I said to my assistant, you gotta get the phone guy out to the house to hook up the phone. And he said, why? And I said, well, you gotta have a phone, you know, a landline at the house. And he said, no, you don't. And I said, yes, you do. You gotta have a landline, you know. And he goes, no, you just have your phone. You just use your phone. I go, yeah, but come on now, the guy's gotta come out. He's gotta hardwire that thing into the wall, you know, I need a landline, but I didn't need a landline. I was just stuck back in my mom's kitchen. Now I realize we're both talking about the same thing, but we're looking at it completely different, right? And he was right. I didn't need it. So I guess that's gonna be sort of the relationship with AI like, we're all trying to wrap our minds around it, but the next generation's just gonna grow up with it and that'll be part of their world.

[Mary Travis]

Yes. It's like everything. Technology, though, everybody's afraid of it until they understand it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Bitcoin and AI and all that stuff. Yeah. I guess my philosophy is it's here so there's nothing. You're not going to avoid it and you're not going to suppress it, and you better just learn to work with it and live with it. Although there's some doomsdayers. Are you guys out in Tennessee? Where are you?

[Mary Travis]

We're in Texas right now.

[Adam Carolla]

That's where the home is?

[Mary Travis]

Yes, sir. Tioga, Texas.

[Adam Carolla]

Tioga, Texas. How far is that from someplace I know in Texas?

[Mary Travis]

Well, we're an hour north of Dallas.

[Adam Carolla]

There you go.

[Mary Travis]

Straight north of Dallas.

[Adam Carolla]

And what's the life like out there? What's the daily life in Tioga, Texas?

[Mary Travis]

Well, we're on a. I call it a farm because it's small by Texas standards, but we have lots of animals, a lot of critters. It's hotter than hades right now. 110 degrees, I think, with the heat index today. But we have cows, horses, donkeys, miniature donkeys, goats, miniature cows, buffalo. So there's. There's never two days alike, and it's. It's home sweet home, up on a hill.

[Adam Carolla]

A miniature donkey is just a. A big dog, right? I mean, you can't eat it, you can't ride. Doesn't do anything but be a pet. Right? Yard art. Yeah. Yeah. Schwarzenegger, doesn't he have a miniature donkey?

[Mary Travis]

I think he does. I think he does. I've forgotten that, but I think he does.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm surprised you people with the miniature donkeys don't keep in touch and keep track of each other because it feels like an elite group of people. People with miniature donkeys. See, I'm from North Hollywood, California. Nobody owned miniature. Now, we didn't have miniature or anything. So is it a working, farmy, ranchy kind of thing or is it all just this is great. Or is it all. We're gonna eat that buffalo?

[Mary Travis]

No, we're not gonna eat the buffalo. We started to raise buffalo before the stroke and we were up to 28 of them, but we're down to two of them now. And they were going to be buffalo jerky, maybe I hate to say that. And then we have beef cattle too, so it's pasture land, hay, cattle production. So it's both.

[Adam Carolla]

And is it a. I mean, it just feels like a lot of work, you know, versus living in a condo.

[Mary Travis]

Yeah, yeah, but we're not condo. We don't do well in condo high rise living.

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[Dawson]

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[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't think the condos homeowners association would allow the miniature donkey. Although again, I could argue if you allowed a large dog, you should allow a miniature donkey. Because what's a miniature donkey weigh?

[Mary Travis]

Oh, when they're real miniature, they can weigh, I would say, probably 50, 60 pounds.

[Adam Carolla]

That's a medium sized lab.

[Mary Travis]

It is, it is. And then they go on up from there, but it's, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

Who do you think's miniature donkey is better, yours or Schwarzenegger's?

[Mary Travis]

His are probably more pampered.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, he puts his in the house all the time.

[Mary Travis]

Randy won't allow that. I've tried and he's. What do you say?

[Dawson]

No,

[Adam Carolla]

I'm reading on the screen that a mature miniature donkey has an average weight between 200 and 350. So now we're getting into St. Bernard.

[Mary Travis]

Yeah, that's the bigger ones.

[Dawson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

But, yeah, Schwarzenegger seems to let his walk around the house, I guess, but he's probably. Well, I know he's got a maid.

[Mary Travis]

He probably wears a diaper. That donkey probably wears a diaper.

[Adam Carolla]

Do they have a. They have donkey diapers. I don't know.

[Mary Travis]

You make them, though. They have a diaper for everything. But donkeys are smart people. People underestimate them. Donkeys and mules. That family is very smart. They've got a lot of intelligence.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, let's rank the order of smartness. Okay. All right, we'll rank them between a horse, a buffalo, a miniature donkey, and a Labrador.

[Ad Read / Commercial Voice]

Whoa.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, who, you know, you could call. Can you call the buffalo?

[Mary Travis]

Well, yeah, you can, but they do what they want to do.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, that Then the answer is yeah, well, you can, you can call a homeless guy, too, but he's not going to.

[Mary Travis]

Yeah, they kind of do what they want to do.

[Adam Carolla]

And I'm not going to snuggle up

[Mary Travis]

with a buffalo, I tell you.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, so buffalo's at the bottom.

[Mary Travis]

Yeah, I mean, they're, they're smart as far as survival, but. All right, you don't get close enough to them to talk to them.

[Adam Carolla]

Horse.

[Mary Travis]

They're smart and different. I think they're different intellectual levels. Randy has some that are very smart. He taught Preacher. Preacher knows 14 different tricks. He can lay down, play dead, roll over, smile, say yes or no.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, all right, I'm guessing Preacher's the horse, right?

[Mary Travis]

Preacher's the horse. And he's. He's pretty high level intellect.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, so now we got to put Preacher above the dog, right? Or do we?

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

Honey, I don't.

[Mary Travis]

This is.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm not going to tell them. I'm just saying, between us, where's the donkey rank between, like a Labrador and a miniature donkey?

[Mary Travis]

Labs are pretty smart. I love labs. I'm going to have to go with a lab as far as people in a reaction, but a donkey's. They're more intelligent than horses.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, so let me just get this straight. We got lab, donkey, horse, buffalo.

[Mary Travis]

Correct.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay.

[Mary Travis]

That's the way I'd put them.

[Adam Carolla]

I just want to make a ranking because it's important.

[Mary Travis]

I'll get a lot of people hating me for that.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, there's a lot of buffalo lovers out there going to take umbrage. So the buffalo, you can't get too close to, even if you're. If it knows you, it'll get you.

[Mary Travis]

I don't know that. No, it doesn't come after you. I mean, like, you hear, you see those nightmares in the Yellowstone park or stuff. And I can go in the pasture with them and they just kind of, you know, say, hey, and they mind their own business. You mind your own. But you don't challenge them. You don't. You don't try to catch them. You don't, you know, just let them be.

[Adam Carolla]

You don't want to walk up. You don't want to walk up on them. You keep a distance.

[Mary Travis]

No, I think you're better off keeping your distance. Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

What? That bison, what's the difference between the buffalo and the bison? I don't know exactly.

[Mary Travis]

You know, I wished I knew. I know one of them was smaller than the other in stature. Different areas that they were bred. I've never really understood. I mean the American bison, the American buffalo, I think it's size is more than anything.

[Adam Carolla]

So you got to, you have to get up early and do all the stuff you do to work a ranch, a farm, like people would do.

[Mary Travis]

We have somebody that helps us do the early morning stuff.

[Adam Carolla]

Good, that's that part.

[Mary Travis]

Too old for that.

[Adam Carolla]

Adam, I don't know that there's ever a right age for getting up at 5 and slopping pigs and stuff like that.

[Mary Travis]

I used to, but now I'm too old for that.

[Adam Carolla]

Now I'm with you. You know, the morning stuff. I used to be, I was in construction for a long time and man, you gotta be on that job site and rolled out and going at 7am no matter how far away it is. And I could never get used to it. I hated it then. I hate getting up now. It's a weird. I had to get up at 4:45 a couple days ago to make a flight. I was miserable. It never goes away. It never ends. You know, it's weird, like you think, you know at some point you just get used to it or something. Like you wouldn't be miserable, miserable.

[Mary Travis]

I think you're just wired whether you're a morning person or a night person. I think our problem is that we're night people. And if we do have to get up early like you, it makes it really, really hard. Randy doesn't. He's allergic to mornings. Early mornings.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, you make your living at night and you leave the stage at 10:30 at night and then you never want to just go to bed. Cause you just worked, you performed, you're excited, you have some drinks, you eat, sometimes dinner late and all that kind of stuff, tour bus, all that. He's just become a night person. Although, I mean it really needs to be studied because look at Trump.

[Mary Travis]

Trump, I don't know how he does it.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, sleeps four hours a night or whatever it is. I mean people say they get texts from him at 2:30 in the morning and then they get another text at 5:15. I mean someone should study him to figure out what that is.

[Mary Travis]

It's an incredible DNA.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it's because like, you know, if I don't get enough sleep, I'm no good the whole day. I couldn't be making decisions about, you know, which part of Iran to bomb. He's just, it's a weird, it's a biological thing for people and the morning person versus the night person versus the napper. There's people that Never nap. Don't like it, doesn't work. I don't like those people. I like to nap.

[Mary Travis]

You like to nap.

[Adam Carolla]

I am a big. All I need is 20 minutes and I'll just get like a quick charge and I'll be, I'll be good. It makes a difference. But the other people are just like, nah, don't care for it. And then they make fun of you for being a napper, like you're lazy or something.

[Mary Travis]

No, I think that quick 10, 20 minute. I think the people that can't do it are the ones that think they can take an hour nap. Then I think that puts you in a whole nother realm that makes you lazy and tired. But the 20 minute recharge fast.

[Adam Carolla]

I agree, I agree. And then there's the people have no control over their lives. Like, they go, I went to take a nap at 4 in the afternoon. I woke up at 6 the next day. I'm like, you don't know that. You don't really.

[Ad Read / Commercial Voice]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

I go, wow. All right. Well then there are the people who fall asleep while driving a car, which to me is an incredible thing to do if you think about it. And there's a lot of people, I'll bet you. Hmm. I'm gonna put this to you in the booth, Andrew. If you get 10 people together and you go, who here out of these 10 people has ever fallen asleep while driving? 3 or 4 people will raise their hand. That's kind of crazy to be driving a motor vehicle and have your brain go, I think I'm gonna catch some shut eye. Yeah, we'll catch a nap here in the Buick doing 70. I mean, that's kind of incredible thing, isn't it, that people just go, yeah, I fell asleep while I was driving. And then you go, you fell asleep while you were driving? They go, I was really tired. Yeah, I get it. But I still don't think I could ever do that. I'll bet you 3 out of 10Americans have fallen asleep while driving.

[Mary Travis]

You're probably right.

[Adam Carolla]

It happens every once in a while. A tour bus driver will fall asleep while driving, right?

[Mary Travis]

Yeah, they put some guardrails in on that as far as their time. But you know, if they don't, if on their time off, if they don't sleep, I can see where they would run into trouble too. So there you go again with organizing your life, you know, and knowing when to get your sleep so that you can perform.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay. According to Google, roughly 40% of adult drivers admit to falling asleep. What'd I say between three and four and 10 people. I'm going to go with my guess. So we got our Buffalo donkey power rankings. We got our info.

[Mary Travis]

They certainly went a different direction than I anticipated.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I'm just, I love it. I'm intrigued about living on that farm. How many acres do you guys have?

[Mary Travis]

325.

[Adam Carolla]

And that's considered small.

[Mary Travis]

We're in Texas.

[Adam Carolla]

In Texas. And how's the spread? Is the house. It looks nice from what I'm looking

[Mary Travis]

at up on a hill and it kind of overlooks the pastures. We are in a hilly area which is kind of unusual for north Texas because it was all farmland up here at one time, row crop. So most of it on both sides of us, just flat farming type communities. But we are in what it's a sandy loam, which they call a horse country area because of the sandy loam soil. And we have trees and hills in Lake Ray Roberts. So it's Randy's little paradise.

[Adam Carolla]

And was this. Obviously you guys are still able to earn and generate income. But you hear a lot about songwriters. Sometimes they kept all their publishing, sometimes they got screwed by the record company. Some of them go broke, others played it, played it smart investments, things of that nature. Can you speak to that? Did that part of the career work or did you have some shady record executive or something like that?

[Mary Travis]

Well, I was new to the business as far as that goes when Randy and I got together in 2010. So all that had happened prior to that. I was unfamiliar with it. That was a crash course as far as earning an income. We are able to in a different way, not to the capacity that he did before, obviously, so we're blessed. But it's not the way that it used to be for him and it's not the way he wished that it could be. But we're okay with that. Like I said, we're here, we're surviving, we're having a good time, we're enjoying life, we're getting to travel. He's out there with the fans. So as far as the income, the records. And he's been with Warner his whole career and he still is, which is nice because he hasn't jumped around from label to label. Kyle Henning is career long producer who's still his producer. So that helps keep things, if you will, compact and not so strung out. As far as figuring out where all the loose ends. That's unscrambling scrambled eggs daily.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah. It's a tricky business and I don't know, I don't know, too many people get through it without some stories about some unscrupulous manager, agent or some. You know, it's kind of baked in all the show businesses that way. You know, there's people that get paid for stuff. It's less than it used to be. There used to be a lot of people getting paid for a lot of stuff that didn't do any work at all and just were producers and their name was on stuff, and they just. They got their beak wet, but you didn't need them. They didn't contribute. You know, they didn't do anything. You know, we had Jimmy Kimmel and I had a manager, and we ended up firing him, but he was a producer on the man show, the show we created. And when they did a film, fifth season of the man show without Jimmy and I, who created the show, he got paid for the fifth season, and we didn't get paid, even though he'd never done anything on the show or contributed anything or anything at all. And it's just a lot of that. There's a lot of it, but less and less now because it's a leaner, meaner business model now, and people are taking it straight to the people that YouTube and all that. It's just not. There's not all the people hanging around that are getting paid and not really doing anything now. You got to do something. You got to. You got to earn. Otherwise, you don't just get to live off the fat of the land. It's a different world.

[Mary Travis]

I think everybody. The teams are leaner. Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. It's that way with all of show business. It's just the way it is. And I mean, I guess in a way, it's kind of nice that we got to experience the part of it where they just wasted a ton of money on everything, you know, craft service and all that. All the amenities that be on all those sets, you know, and how many, you know, they used to have holding deals and development deals. You just get paid to stay home. Like, literally, like, it was. It was free money, big contracts. Radio. Radio used to pay stuff. What was the first time, Randy, and you must know this story, first thing, time he heard himself on the radio. When was that?

[Mary Travis]

When was the first time you heard yourself? Was it on the Other Hand? Yeah, I think first one he told me was on the Other Hand. He had heard it was going to be on the radio, but he had not heard it. He was going down the road and he heard it. That was when on the Other Hand released and it went to number 67. Didn't do that great. Then they released 1982 and it went way up the charts. I think it hit number two. And so the powers that be decided they would re release, on the other hand. And it went to number one. It was unusual to re release by a label, but they had heard the secondary markets down in the south, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi. They were getting a lot of requests at the secondary market radios for that. So they thought, well, let's try it again. And then of course, it went to number one and it was one after the other. But I think that was the first one he ever heard on the radio.

[Adam Carolla]

I think my screen says that was July 1985.

[Mary Travis]

Correct? Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And all these years later, still out doing gigs in a different format. But, you know, I would argue a more comfortable format because I would like to do a thing where I got a comedian to get up there and just do my jokes and then I would sit on a chair and I would enjoy watching.

[Mary Travis]

Well, it's, you know, Adam, it's interesting because it's not just James singing and the band playing, but we have video going on. All right, the music videos. Then there's a lot of videos from Randy as a child and all through his career and some of the fun moments and with, say, Dolly and Carrie Underwood and some of the shows that he was on, the talk shows. So it shows. It's a biopic, if you will, of Randy's life. And people get to see those treasures that they hadn't seen before. Randy's sense of humor, his joke telling.

[Adam Carolla]

So, so the new album that's coming out in September or the details of it will be out in September.

[Mary Travis]

The details will be out.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. And tour dates, where should we go to find those tour dates? I know you got some coming up in Pennsylvania. That'll be end of September. Where would people go? More life tour. Just google it in.

[Mary Travis]

It has all the tour dates and everything right there.

[Adam Carolla]

Thanks you guys for joining me. It was interesting and fun conversation. RandyTravis.com is where you go. Mary. Randy, enjoyed it.

[Mary Travis]

Thank you so much. We enjoyed you.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Dawson]

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[Adam Carolla]

Ace man, this is Tim, truck driver from southern Illinois. Just wanted to say communism is like a callous. Shows up when the work's done. All right, get it on.

[Dawson]

You can leave us a message at 888-634-1744.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, Rudy, my mom had that same

[Rudy Pavlitz]

bumper sticker, communism shows up after the work is done.

[Adam Carolla]

Yep, Rudy's back. By popular demand.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

What's happening, buddy?

[Adam Carolla]

Cause Alicia Krause got sick. Mm, no, Rudy is a fan favorite over here. I got some thoughts about some stuff before we can get into the news, if you like. I was looking at Twitter. No, I was looking at tmz. Oh, did you find that Molly Shannon thing? Well, you can look for that. Anyway, it was Jennifer Lopez and her son, who used to be her daughter, I think. And then I was like, oh, but that's not the daughter from Ben Affleck. And then I was talking to Andrew about it. He's like, oh, yeah, but Ben Affleck has a trans kid too. And I realized, of course, listen, this can't be a coincidence where everyone in Hollywood, like, literally there is a couple. Two of the most famous people in the world have children from a previous relationship. They get married, and they each have a kid from a previous relationship. That's trans. It cannot be.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

It can't be. That's impossible. Yeah, it is. It almost seems like the more famous you get, the more these trans kids that you have in your broad. Cause what was it Charlize Theron's got? She got like five or six. She's got like seven kids. But five of the seven are trans. Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

They said Broadway, but I think it's brood.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Brood? Is that what it is?

[Adam Carolla]

It is, but you're from Minnesota, so we don't really.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Brood is an accent, right? Did I fuck that up? I must have.

[Adam Carolla]

Obviously, a brood is your clan.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And a brode clan with a K. Yeah.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

I just wanna make sure a brogue is an accent.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Oh, a brogue, man.

[Dawson]

A brogue is developing a friendship with a dude.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. When you're not gay. But you really dig it. You're really digging it.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Bro out.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, you brode out.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

So I have to bro out with before they turn into a woman or if they are previously a guy, I can still bro out with them even if they are claiming to be a lady. Is that right?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And speaking of that, you tell me,

[Rudy Pavlitz]

are we spooning this weekend?

[Adam Carolla]

This is accurate. Yeah. I only get one room. You tell me this is accurate.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay. Jenny in there, new assistant.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Not J. Lo. Different Jenny.

[Adam Carolla]

Different block.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yeah, different block.

[Adam Carolla]

She is a vegetarian.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

Which I don't mind on a woman.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Wait, with Ben Affleck or with J.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

Lo?

[Rudy Pavlitz]

I just wanna make sure.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, here we go. Taking those groundlings.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Vegetarian? Yes, vegetarian.

[Adam Carolla]

She is a vegetarian woman and she's in the next room. And then we also have Andrew, who's a vegetarian. And I realized when she told me I'm a vegetarian, my reaction was like, oh, okay, good for you. You're fit, you're healthy. Look at you. Nice. Probably jog. Good for you. Have that salad. But when Andrew told me, I was like, ugh, yuck. But now it's just vegetarian, right, Chuck?

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Same way.

[Adam Carolla]

Same way. Disgusted when a male says it. Then I realize, I think it's about the same reaction that if you have a girlfriend and the girlfriend says, when I was in college, I Kind of got with my lady roommate one night. We just kind of experimenting. We'd been drinking a little. And you go, yeah, tell me about it. That sounds pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty hot. But if the dude said, when I was 17, I blew my neighbor, you'd go, yuck, don't tell me about that shit. And I feel the same way about the vegetarian. I think it's almost the same when a woman does it. It's like, good for you. And even a little hot when a dude does it. We'll never eat brisket together. This ain't.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

I don't know if you remember.

[Adam Carolla]

This ain't going anywhere.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

The conversation you, me, and comedian Jen Kober had one time, how she was talking that there are more guys that have experimented with other dudes in college than there have been women who have experimented with other ladies in college. Remember that conversation?

[Adam Carolla]

That is fundamentally untrue.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

There's no way that that's possible.

[Adam Carolla]

People, women. Women who are flexible sexually, have no idea how unflexible men are sexually. Like, they'll buy that stuff where it's like, well, you know, I knew this dude. He wasn't gay, but he was. With dudes, you're like, nah, nah, gay. You don't realize that when you're straight, the notion, it's really up there with, like, killing a pet.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, just can't do it. Gross. Would never do it. Not gonna happen. You know? Like, it just. It's not in the realm of possibilities.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

There was an episode. I remember. What was her name? Jenny. The daytime talk show. Not Jenny. Jenny McCarthy from the Block. She was a blonde who had the daytime talk show, like, Ricky Lake. Jenny something. But she had an episode where Jenny Jones. Jenny Jones.

[Adam Carolla]

Jenny Jones. Thank you.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

She had an episode where a couple had been dating, waiting for a while. He wanted to tell her some information. She wanted to do the same. She came out and said, when I was in college, I dated a woman for about six months. And he said, well, that's what I wanted to tell you, that I made out with my roommate, another man, when I was a freshman in college. And she said, okay, well, we're done right here. This is it. And he said, well, wait a minute. How about you can hook up with your college roommate, but I can't hook up with mine? And she said, nope, different standards. And walked off the show. And that was that.

[Adam Carolla]

She knew what she was talking about.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yeah, because in your head, it's already in there. When you see another guy holding hands with another Guy. Immediately your brain will go, now, now.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, hold on.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Couth will go, I'll shut my mouth.

[Adam Carolla]

Unless you're Joe Biden with his dad in 1957 in Scranton. And then the dad leans over from the Buick Roadmaster you're driving and goes, son, that's. That's the future. Those two fellas making out on the corner, which I'm sure is a true story. It has to be a TR. Yeah, because if Joe Biden said it, it's definitely 100% true. His dad was the tip of the gay spear. I know that sounds gay. Early super progressive. Like guys from Scranton were in the 50s who ran Chevy dealerships. All those guys, they were the most progressive.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

Yeah.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

All their gay rainbow flags outside Chevy dealership.

[Adam Carolla]

That's the future. Is there a Joe Biden clip, Andrew, of the Joey that's the future kind of thing? That's the greatest thing ever. All right, I have a theory. And Molly Shannon from SNL brought it into Sharper Leap the other day when she was getting her Walk of Fame star. She was telling the story. And what I've learned with women and with dudes who think like women is they tell you how they felt, but they're not telling you how they felt. They're saying, a person said this. So they'll do a thing. Just hold it for a second, Andrew. They'll do a thing where they'll go, every person does this. Women do it all the time. I was at the. It was in my class. There was the sixth grade and the sixth grade teacher called me stupid in front of the whole. Front of the whole class. And the teacher would never just go, you're stupid in front of the whole class. What happened was, is she said, I'm writing my book report on the movie Barry Lyndon. And then the teacher went, are you sure that's a good subject for you? Maybe you should pick a Disney film or something like that. Which made her feel stupid. But he didn't say stupid. They never say stupid. My sister used to do that with my dad. I'd go, weren't you guys supposed to go to dinner? Yeah, he just called and said, I'm not going cuz I don't feel like seeing you or something. But the reality is he called and said, I'm not feeling good today. Maybe we'll take a rain check. But she perceived it. Is that so? What women do, and a lot of dudes, Dr. Drew does this is they perceive stuff and they go, oh, you think I'm dumb? You call me dumb? You call me fat. You call me ugly. And it's like somebody said, I don't think that dress really shows off your strong, you know, curves. You know, maybe another thing. Oh, you're saying I'm fat. You know what I mean? But then we'll say as years wear on, that designer said I was fat. That designer didn't say, you're fat. Because designer would never say that. No, they would say, let's get another dress on that's a little more flattering to your shape or some version of that. Now, he could be thinking you're fat, sure. But he'll never say it. Molly Shannon gave her speech, and I think this is chick think going on, but we'll listen to it.

[Mary Travis]

I was auditioning, auditioning, auditioning. But I wasn't booking any jobs. So one day, I decided to spend all my waitressing money on new headshots. New colored headshots. And the photographer looked at me through his lens and he said, why are you so ugly? This is a true story. And my heart sunk. I was devastated. But I chose not to let other people's opinions define me and not listen to him. And if you don't believe in karma, that photographer now makes his living running a dog hotel right down the street.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

He's a successful business owner, and he

[Mary Travis]

cleans up dog for a living. Have fun, bitch.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, now, he took her money. Cause he's a photographer, so he makes his living. And then he met her at the door, and they talked about different shots or angles or different Z cards or whatever they were doing. And then he got behind the lens to get the. Take the shots, and then popped his head up and said, you're so ugly. Why are you taking pictures? He didn't know she was, like, a comedic actress or anything. And we did have, like, Phyllis Diller and Ruth Buzzy and, you know, we had a lot of comedic. Comedic actors that weren't spokesmodels, females back then. Now there's no possible way that guy popped his head up and went, why are you so ugly? There's no way. Also, it shows that no woman, no matter SNL cast how much success, walk of fame, it's always what you look like first, no matter what. It's kind of their version of money. Like everyone. All the socialists and all the. Everybody who just says, I don't care about money. They're always wearing a Rolex. They're always wearing an expensive suit.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

You know, they're all.

[Adam Carolla]

They all want to drive a Lexus or Mercedes. Like, there's no one who just truly says, money, money, money. You know, Bernie Sanders has three houses. You know, he wants to fly private. You know, there's nobody. They talk and they talk and they talk about money and not needing it, not caring about it or providing or getting it from Elon or whatever. At the end of the day, they all want the fucking Rolex in the sports car. Okay? Never. Every one of the people who rips off the government. It's always, always on these vacations and they rented a yacht like it's never ripped off the government and bought the bare necessities.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yeah. Every spouse who's ever said, I don't care about money. Well, it's the only thing we argue about.

[Adam Carolla]

So my ex said she didn't care about money. Nobody spent money more than my ex. Nobody fucking wasted more money or fucked up money, my money more than her. She didn't want to thank me, so she said, I don't care about money. Now while she's squandering money and living in a mansion, she can then say she doesn't have to thank me. Cause she announced she doesn't care about money, but she wants the expensive version of everything. All right, this is Joe. What is this? Is this. This is Joe in 2000. Screen says 12, but I don't know what that. I know what that means exactly. But he's on cnn, says a debate.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Looks like it.

[Mary Travis]

On hall.

[Adam Carolla]

Town hall.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Oh, town hall. Presidential town hall with Joe Biden. This must be 2016 or 20, maybe.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. The question is, why did you express your comfort with same sex marriage in 2012 when the Obama administration didn't publicly support it?

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

All right, it was a real simple, basic issue by my position. I was raised by a dad who was. It was real simple, basic issue. I remember getting out of a car when I was trying to be dropped off at the local city hall to get a job. To be the only white employee in the east side of town, in the neighborhood, in the projects, as a lifeguard. As I got out, there were two guys in the corner in Rodney Square, they call it, which is the sort of corporate capital of the world. It's where the chancery court and all that is. And these two guys, well dressed. This was back in 1960, probably 1963. And I'm revealing that I'm almost as old as you,

[Rudy Pavlitz]

by the way.

[Adam Carolla]

Can you pause it for a second? Remember when dementia was setting in and every fuck stick on CNN was going, well, he has a stutter. And I was always like, I Don't hear him stutter. What stutter are we talking about in the past? What we're doing is we're comparing Joe Biden from 10 years ago to Joe Biden of today or Joe Biden from 25 years ago to Joe Biden of today. We're trying to figure out an A and a B cuz it seems like he's affected and they're going he has a speech impediment, he has a stutter. Except for I never hear the fucking stutter. Just one more CNN lie about his speech impediment stutter that is somehow explaining his glazed over look and inability to form thoughts.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yeah, lifelong politicians don't have stutters.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. Or maybe he did when he was with his dad. But let's hear the story. Sorry. You have more pepper in your hair than I do.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

I have a hell lot less hair. But look, my dad was dropping me off so I could. He'd go around the block, I'd run and get the application and two well dressed men kissed one another as I was opening the door and I hadn't seen that before. And I turned around and one walked off to the dupont building, one walked off to what used to be called the Hercules Corporation. And I looked at my dad and he just looked at me, said it's simple honey, they love each other. It's just basic, there's nothing complicated about it. That's how I was raised.

[Adam Carolla]

Now they didn't left out the rest of the story. Now let's go get a fire extinguisher, piss into it, pump it up, get in the bed of a pickup truck and I'm gonna spray these homos. That was the part he always leaves out. So it's simple. This is the 1961. He's explaining about fellas and that's his dad drop him off so he can save black people from drowning. Yeah, see what we got there? That's a twofer. I'm gonna save black people from drowning cause I'm the only white dude willing to go work with the black people. And it's also a couple of gay guys. But it's simple, they love each other. And I'm sure guys back then in Scranton would make out on the corner all day long and then head to your high end corporate gig. Just walk into the dupont building over there. Uh huh. That's how it worked back when you'd get fired.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Scranton.

[Adam Carolla]

Yep. All right, sorry. This is from 2019 by the way. The guy dropped off a lot in like four years, which is Basically what we're saying. Cnn. I want to hear it one more time. I want to hear him kissing them, making out. Now what year he was a lifeguard? You know, when he had to go deal with Corn Pop. He was a bad dude. Remember that? Remember Corn Pop had to deal with him? He was a bad dude. He was a bad dude. So he had to be that. I mean, we have to be talking about the late 50s, early 60s. I don't know. He tried to do the back math because he's a. He's working as a lifeguard. Not when he's 25. He's working for a lifeguard when he's 17.

[Dawson]

Yeah. And wasn't he just talking about getting the application in 61? The Civil Rights act was 64 and they have a white guy lifeguarding at the Blackpool.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh yeah, Remember that time he went to South Africa and got arrested?

[Dawson]

That must have been right after he demanded.

[Adam Carolla]

Now it all makes sense. Yeah, demanded Mandela be freedom.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

He was the only one there who could swim. So I mean. Okay. Nope, never mind.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, this is like 59. Yeah, yeah, I got it. 59. All right. I just want to hear him say it one more time.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

The But Barack knew my position. I was raised by a dad who was. It was real simple, basic issue. I remember getting out of a car when I was trying to be dropped off at the local city hall to get a job, to be the only white employee in the east side of town in the neighborhood, in the projects as a lifeguard. As I got out, there were two guys in the corner in Rodney Square they call it, which is the sort of corporate capital of the world. It's where the Chancery Court and all that is. And these two guys, well dressed. This was back in 1960, probably 1963. And I'm revealing that I'm almost as old as you.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, so I GUESS he was 20 and 63. You have more pepper in your hair than I do.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

I have a hell lot less hair. But look, my dad was dropping me off so I could. He'd go around the block, I'd run and get the application. And two well dressed men kissed one another as I was opening the door. And I hadn't seen that before. And I turned around and one walked off to the dupont building. One walked up to what used to be called the Hercules Corporation. And I looked at my dad and he just looked at me, said, it's simple, honey, they love each other. It's just basic. There's nothing complicated about it. That's How I was raised for real.

[Adam Carolla]

And so now he's lying. That makes sense for real for me.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

And Barack knew that. Barack knew that. And he knew that if I, I was going to be a good boy until the administration moved unless I was asked. But you know me too well. You know that. You know, no one ever seen what I say. The problem is I sometimes say all that. I mean, and so when I was

[Adam Carolla]

asked on, you got to rewind for a second because the greatest clip in play about he's. He, he can't help but be truthful is what he's saying. Sounds like a hero's journey, doesn't it? Helping the black people.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

Barack knew that. And he knew that if I, if I was going to be a good boy until the administration moved unless I was asked. But you know me too well. You know that. You know, no one ever doubts I mean, what I say. The problem is I sometimes say all that. I mean. And so when I was asked on

[Adam Carolla]

good pause, remember that time he got up there in front of a crowd and explained he had a Fulbright scholarship and he graduated the top of his class and his law school and there are only two people that had dual majors.

[Dawson]

That's when he thought the top 97th percentile meant that you were the top 3%.

[Adam Carolla]

He Never. More bullshit come out of one person's mouth in a shorter period of time.

[Mary Travis]

And

[Adam Carolla]

look, there's two kinds of bullshit. I was all Valley, but I could slip up and say All City and it would sound a little better, which I know I would be lying, but there's plausible deniability. You know, you won a Super Bowl. Then there's like. Then there's like, I was in the National Guard. But you never got. You never won abroad. But you say I served. But you served in Indiana. But whatever. There's like, nuance when it comes to your education. It's pretty carved in. Like if you talk to Dr. Drew. Where'd you do your undergrad? Amherst. Where'd you do? USC Medical school. Where? I mean, it's all the time, state stamped. And then you could go to me. Hey, Adam, tell me about your formal education. I went to Valley Junior College for like a semester and then I quit. There is no, there could never be a possibility where I was like, I went to Duke and I had a dual major. Unless I'm just lying. Unless I'm just flat fucking out lying. I mean, there's shit people kind of remember in a happy way that kind of gives them, you know, makes them sound a little Better than they actually were. But not the education stuff. You either did this or you did not do this. And like I would say frequently, I got college scholarship offers from this school and that school and that school. I would never say I went to that school because I didn't do. Is him fucking lying his ass off. And it should have been a red flag for anybody. Like, this guy's a sociopath. If you can do that, you're complete fucking sociopath. Got a video of him being against gay marriage with Russert. Right?

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Of course. Can't go any other way.

[Adam Carolla]

Tim Russert. Yeah. Today and tomorrow in the Rose Garden, talk about a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

You know, think about this. The world's going to Hades in a handbasket. We are desperately concerned about the circumstance

[Adam Carolla]

relating to avian flu.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

We don't have enough vaccines. We don't have enough police officers. And we're going to debate the next three weeks. I'm told gay marriage, a flag amendment, and God only knows what else. I can't believe the American people can't see through this. We already have a law, the Defense of Marriage Act.

[Adam Carolla]

We've all voted.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

Not where I voted. And others said, look, marriage is between a man and a woman, and states must respect that.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, man. Nobody pauses. His dad must be rolling over in his grave.

[Dawson]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

Because he was such a champion of gay rights from the 50s. That's got to be rough. First dad have to hear that everyone

[Rudy Pavlitz]

at that pool is like, that's not the lifeguard I remember.

[Adam Carolla]

That's right.

[Dawson]

Listen closely to that story, too. He tells you how his father interacted with him.

[Adam Carolla]

He said, honey, honey, honey.

[Dawson]

Yeah, which, which really throws a wrench into the thing for me.

[Adam Carolla]

Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Dawson]

Wait a minute. Are you. He was like an ally. Or maybe he was the. The g of the LGBT.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Dawson]

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[Adam Carolla]

All right, shall we do a little news with Rudy?

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Let's do it over here. Perez Hilton. You may have seen this name we haven't heard much of over the the last couple of years. His alarming TikTok livestream caused the platform to speedily alert law enforcement and permanently ban his account. Despite reports, the stream continued for a half hour. I don't know if you saw any of these photos or any of the video. He was on a live TikTok, taking a knife and running it across his body and cutting himself. Not just a couple of slices over the forearm, but deep lacerations. Finally, at some point, the Miami Dade Police show up. Law enforcement sources confirm the victim was indeed Perez Hilden, who is now undergoing a psychiatric evaluation at the hospital.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I mean, he's got a kind of complicated life. He's an interesting enough guy, kind of funny, sort of had his moment. Now it's sort of weird. I don't even wanna see the video. But he's been on a few times over the years on the radio show. And I think a lot of people aren't feeling sorry for him because of how he made his living and the people he sort of outed and things of that nature. But I don't know. He's got kids through a surrogate, I believe, maybe times a few. And you just sort of wish him Godspeed.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yeah, like it'd be different if this was his moment in the sun still, but it's not. He's kind of on the backside of it. And I was talking with Nick out in the hallway about the stuff that he said about Britney Spears not only before, but after her episode when she shaved her head and then went full penguin with the umbrella and stabbed the reporter with it. And that's the reason why a lot of people aren't really feeling sorry for this guy because of what he's done in the past, and now it's kind of coming back tenfold on him.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I mean, look, I guess here would be my thing. I am loving every video I see of somebody talking shit about Aaron Rodgers for not getting vaccinated and getting very sanctimonious about it and then rubbing it in everyone's fucking face. Anything, Covid? Fuck you. Let's rub it all in everyone's face 24. 7. I'm down with it 100%, but I would not want to see a clip of Terry Bradshaw cutting himself with a knife. I just want to see the clip of him making an ass. A sanctimonious ass out of himself, talking about Aaron Rodgers. And then I want his punishment for us to share it and play it repeatedly and make him look like a huge sanctimonious asshole. And I feel that way about all things Covid, but I don't want him to cut himself, of course. And that's. That's how I feel about Perez Hilton. Oh, here's Terry Bradshaw, by the way, I give Aaron Rodgers some advice. It would have been nice if he'd have just come to the Naval Academy and learned how to be honest.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

Yeah,

[Ad Read / Commercial Voice]

learned.

[Adam Carolla]

Learn not to lie. Because that's what you did, Aaron.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

You lied to everyone.

[Adam Carolla]

I paused it for a second. Listen, listen. Of course you lied. People do this all the time. They go, oh, why didn't Fauci just get up there and tell the truth? Cuz he'd be put in prison if he got up and just told the truth. You know, we do this. It drives me nuts. Just get up there and tell the truth. You can't. Aaron Rodgers tried to lie because you and the rest of society were forcing him to inject a substance into his healthy body that he did not want to inject, and he knew that he didn't need to inject it, and he also knew it wasn't gonna harm any of his teammates or any of that. If someone said to me, hey, Adam, we need you to do this shot of purple liquid, otherwise you can't podcast anymore. Then I would go, and I realized the liquid may harm me, and I did not need it to podcast. Then I would come into work and I would report, hey, did you take your purple shot? Oh, ye.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

I did.

[Adam Carolla]

Now let's get the podcast. Because all I wanted to do is get the fuck back to work. That's all Aaron Rodgers wanted to do. He wanted to be left alone and go back. He didn't lie because he's a liar. He lied because you forced him to take an experimental vaccine that he, of all people, healthy, strong, and young. He didn't need that fucking vaccine. Like I don't need a butt plug.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Wow. Come on, now. We're going on the road this weekend. Come on.

[Adam Carolla]

An abacus.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Thank you.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, let's get a little more accurate. I fucking. Like, I need a fucking Chinese dictionary. Like, nobody needed the vaccine less than Aaron Rodgers. Except for maybe Kylie Irving or Novacek or Jovic the tennis. Nobody needed that vaccine less than those three guys, and they knew it. So they lied. Or he lied because he's like, I want this to go away. I want you to leave me alone. But I don't want to take your bullshit experimental vaccine. But let's listen to what Terry. I hate it when people force people into lying and then go, you know he lied. Yeah, he fucking lied because you made. You know who lied? Every Jew who told a Nazi he wasn't a Jew in 1942. They're all liars, liars, liars.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

Yeah.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yeah. Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

Go ahead. You Nazis forced people to lie. You understand?

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

Mm.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay. Be honest.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

Yeah.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Learn to learn not to lie.

[Adam Carolla]

Because that's what you did, Aaron.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

You lied.

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[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

To everyone.

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I understand.

[Adam Carolla]

Immunize. What you were doing was taking stuff that would keep you from getting COVID 19. You got COVID 19 ivermectum as a cattle dewormer. Sorry, folks.

[Dawson]

That's what it is.

[Adam Carolla]

It's another divided nation politically. We're divided Nation on the COVID 19 whether or not to take the vaccine. And unfortunately, we've got players that pretty much think only about themselves. And I'm extremely disappointed in the actions of Aaron Rodgers. All right, now. Eat a dick, Terry. And by the way, this horse pace stuff.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Really not knowable.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Unknowable. No one. You have a phone. Just fucking Google this shit. And then 13 seconds later, you'll know it's not horse pace. Why do you really. We're now the point. We just don't want to know shit.

[Mary Travis]

Yeah.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Been five years. How many times do you hear, oh, Joe Rogan was telling people to take horse pace.

[Ad Read / Commercial Voice]

Look it up.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

It takes two seconds.

[Adam Carolla]

There is a brush for a horse. And then humans use brushes as well. That's how it works. God damn. It's been given to 3.7 billion times to human beings. Ivermectin. Terry Bradshaw can't avail himself of that fucking information. So eat a dick, Terry.

[Ad Read / Commercial Voice]

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[Adam Carolla]

Have fun, Internet. Have fun.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

The other part I love about that Rogers clip, when he brings it up, everybody on that show, on the McAfee show, everybody is going, yeah, yeah, agreeing with him. And then he goes, how many times did your network. And they're like, oh, you were talking about espn. Oh, shit, nevermind. And they go, whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on a second.

[Adam Carolla]

They were firing sage steel. They fired someone who didn't get vaccinated again. Young and healthy. Jesus fucking Christ. All right, what else you got?

[Rudy Pavlitz]

So woke astronomer warns that lunar colonizers. Excuse me, Warns lunar colonizers that moon is part of indigenous sky country.

[Adam Carolla]

Did you know what this is? Woke astronomer?

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yes. A woke astronomer came in and said, the moon is something that has fascinated us. It's deeply rooted to indigenous sky country and storytelling. Basically, he's saying. She is saying that we should not be out there because, hey, there was celestial beings. The Indians were looking up at the skies. They were using it as navigation years ago. So we shouldn't be trying to explore space and head to the moon.

[Mary Travis]

Is this impact something we should be concerned about? Or is the concern more like you've just mentioned there, around space junk just continuously piling up around the orbit of Earth? Well, look, the moon is something that's fascinated us. You know, it's deeply rooted to indigenous, you know, sky country and storytelling. And so we want to respect the fact that this is not just something for us to go and explore, as amazing as that is. And so I think it's actually a big focus for global space regulation as well as understanding Australia's growing role in space exploration and how we continue to be responsible.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, here's. Here's a. Here's a hypothetical. Let's just say we didn't invade the indigenous people's homeland here in the United States, and we left the peaceful people of all the tribes who lived in harmony with the buffalo and the Earth. We just never showed up. How long would it take them to get to the moon?

[Rudy Pavlitz]

That's a good point.

[Adam Carolla]

Now, we got there 69. 75.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yeah. A couple years ago.

[Adam Carolla]

Mid-70s.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yeah, of course.

[Adam Carolla]

73. Are you on that, Dawson? Are you of the camp where the indigenous people would have left North America and put a man. Put a. Put a. And possibly a squaw on the moon? You know what I mean? Because they're more progressive than we were.

[Dawson]

I think they Might have beat us.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, oh, this is. Oh, Dawson.

[Dawson]

We were all 68.

[Adam Carolla]

Dawson saying they would have gave us the full Sputnik job. They would have fucking probably taken a first.

[Dawson]

They wouldn't have put a monkey.

[Adam Carolla]

No buffalo. American buffalo.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

No American flag. Would have been a lunar teepee. We would have got it up there.

[Adam Carolla]

That's right. So. Oh, the capsule looked like a teepee.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

See?

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

That probably was ripped off from the indigenous people too. All right, so let's just do this. We landed in 69. Verify that, Andrew. I'm pretty sure it was 69. If we had not invaded their homeland, those tribes would have put together a rocket program and been up. Dawson says pre 69.

[Dawson]

Yeah. One guy would have looked and said, that's catty wampus. Change that. And then they'd change it and they'd fly.

[Adam Carolla]

Do it now. I'm sorry, Dawson. As much as I love the technology that they brought us, I'm still going to say it'd be a few years later. I mean, we had the best and the brightest over there in NASA. I'm going to say 74. The indigenous people would have landed a person on the moon. What year was it? Was it 69 that we got there? Yeah. Okay. I go five years earlier in 74. Where do you go, Rudy?

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yeah, I would say, you know, I would probably be around there. Say 76, 77.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

A couple years after that.

[Adam Carolla]

Uh huh. Yeah. Because. So you go before.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

No, I go after you.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, 77. Yeah.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Go after you.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. You know why? Lots advanced materials, you know, lots of magnesium aluminum and high temp stuff.

[Dawson]

I mean, rare earth materials that have to be mined.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Takes a little longer to wrap the module in buffalo hide, you know, because

[Adam Carolla]

that's what now, now you're making a mockery. I had a very legit question though. But we can all agree before 19, 1980, yes, the indigenous people here would put a man on the moon and possibly a woman, because again, they'd be more progressive than we would be.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Would have rode that thing bareback all the way through the stratosphere.

[Dawson]

It's funny how. It's funny how the conservatives get blamed for being xenophobic. And yet here's this person and she's saying indigenous people. Indigenous is a term that just means you're on the land that your people were from. Indigenous people in Finland used the moon to navigate the seas. What about them?

[Adam Carolla]

White. Too white. Not gonna work.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Too white.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

Yeah.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Also, Billie Eilish, when she accepts her next award on the moon, she is gonna let us know it's stolen land that she's standing on.

[Adam Carolla]

Here's a real question. If not for World War II,

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would

[Adam Carolla]

Germany have beat us to the moon? Because we had their rocket scientists. We cherry picked them during World War II. After World War II, they were moving ahead with the rockets, and they had a head start on us. Then we carpet bombed them and firebombed them, and now they had no money, no infrastructure, no whatever. We cherry picked their rocket scientists, and then we did it. And the Soviets, you know, got Sputnik up there. They didn't land on the moon, but they orbited the moon. I think the smart money be on Germany minus World War II. All right, Germany or the Dakota Nation. I think one or the other. Yeah, that's a toss up at this moment. Oh, man. Flip a coin, man. All right, what else you got?

[Rudy Pavlitz]

So Donald Trump says that if he coached in the WNBA, he'd ask LeBron if he was. If he had any desire to be a woman. I don't know if you saw this video, but, oh, this is a classic.

[Adam Carolla]

I love Trump. I love Trump because how angry he makes everybody. And I'll tell you what, if I were ever, I'd be the greatest woman's basketball coach in history because I don't like LeBron James. I like Michael Jordan much better. But I'd go up to LeBron James. It doesn't matter. I'd say, lebron, did you ever have any desire to be a woman? Because what I'd love you to do is star on my team that I'm building up. I will have the greatest team in history. They'll never lose. Nobody will come within 70 points of this team. Now we have to change that, and we have to make it okay to talk about it. You know, the young lady I was talking about is afraid to talk about it. She's shunned, and she's canceled when she talks about it. This is crazy. Yeah, get Seth Moulton eating shit, backtracking on whatever he said. I came up with a theory as I was watching everyone argue over what is a man or what is a woman or should women. It's like. It is infuriating, but it's also sort of insanity. Like, look, we're just saying we have women's sports for a reason. They don't play above the rim. It's not even close a all Star and a national international, okay? The WNBA is international. It's women from any country, any part of the world come into play here. I would reckon a 13 year old to 14 year old international all star basketball team of males would beat the average WNBA team. Because I looked it up. You know, there's a 10 year old who can dunk. 10 years old, really? Now there's an 11. There's almost routinely like 12 and 13 year old boys who can dunk. And by the time you get to 15, it's fucking tomahawk shit. I mean, there's some freaks out there. You put those dudes together, they all play way above the rim. And the chicks do not play above the rim. I mean, it's stupid. But you have women's sport for women, so they can have it. We don't. This isn't the clip I was talking about that I liked that we talked about Andrew. He was on a. I think he was on a new show on this one, I do believe, or maybe I made that up, but I liked it from yesterday. Then we gotta argue and argue and argue about I don't even know what like they. Every single thing they do is. Oh, so you don't like the trans community? It's like. No, no, it's not that. Everything. You know what I mean? Like id, voter id. Oh, you don't like black people. If you have to conflate everything with some sort of prejudice, then you've already lost the fucking argument. It's just we don't want men playing with women. There's a story where I think in 99, Serena and Venus Williams, at the height of their powers in 1999, best players in the world said they could beat anybody on the male side that was outside of the top 200. The 203rd ranked male, after a night of fucking drinking and not practicing, whooped them both. Yeah, like that's the story. That's what men can do. And by the way, that's tennis. That is not as physical as basketball and many other sports are. All right, I guess it's the clip. Well, it's the one I liked. Then this is it. All right, let's watch it.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

Congressman Walden, in your last debate, you said when you were asked about student athletes who are transgender, to anyone out there listening tonight, anyone in the LGBTQ community or anyone else, I stand with you because I've always stood with you. But after the last presidential election, you said, I have two little girls. I don't want them getting run over on a playing field by a male or formerly male athlete. Congressman. Which is.

[Adam Carolla]

I stand with to the trans community. Feeling the weight in the pain. The pain. The Trump administration policies I deeply recognize your trauma, and I'm sorry if my comments. Stepdad, who molested you? All right, everyone's got to suck the trans dick now or something. And the coaches have to argue and everyone's got to get involved. And you know what I realized? I said, rudy, let's do a little way back machine, a little clip. I asked Andrew. He got it right, but I think he was Googling the answer. Dawson, in the hit series with Don Adams, get smart. He was a secret agent. He fought for one side and the bad guys, Siegfried and the other guys fought for the other side. What were the name of the two entities? I'll ask Rudy first. Who was battling? Don Adams group he represented. And the other bad guys they represented as well. It'd be like, who played in the Super Bowl? And you'd go, Kansas City and San Francisco. What were the two names of the teams that played in that game? All right, I believe.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

I'm not remembering the name, but I think it's an acronym, right? Isn't it like. It's like mash, M A M period, A period, something like that?

[Adam Carolla]

I think it probably was, but I'm still asking for the name.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

I can't remember the name.

[Adam Carolla]

Dawson.

[Dawson]

I'd have to go with GI Joe versus Cobra. I don't know. I never saw the show in the 60s.

[Adam Carolla]

Mel Brooks created it, I do believe. Late 60s. Don Am. Funny show. Funny show. And Adam Bricker from the Love Boat was Klaus or whatever. Siegfried, that's his name. Spoke with the Russian accent, German accent. The two groups that were doing battle were called Chaos and Control. Chaos and Control and chaos just wanted chaos. And I'm realizing these fuckwads just want chaos. I don't know what they want. They have an autonomous chop zone in Wisconsin where cops and paramedics aren't allowed in and men and women and trans and open borders and no one is illegal and defund the police and cash bail and get rid of prisons. They're chaos. They just want chaos. I don't know what they want other than chaos. Get rid of everything. Burn it all down. And no, you're not opening an Amazon hub in my district. Chaos. We want chaos at schools. We want street takeovers. We want border chaos with. With whole big groups of people just jumping over the fence and running across the river. And if you try to put make your own fence in Texas out of shipping containers or put something up in the Rio Grande, we will then tear that down. Yeah, I don't know. There's no other answer. Other Than they want chaos. It's always a different thing. It's something about Islam and the rights and the people to come here and be peaceful and practice in the borders. And we're not gonna dep. Deport anybody. And men and women and Aaron Rodgers, we're gonna have to attack him for not getting a vaccine. But we can have dudes playing winning track meets against chicks and we're just gonna argue about everything all the time. Chaos, that's all. You go to downtown la, it's chaos. You go to downtown Portland, it's chaos. It's just homeless and trash and boarded up shit. And the other side was called control. They wanted to stop the chaos.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

And even when they talk about chaos, it's not necessarily lighting buildings on fire. And it's not controlled districts. Excuse me? Like the district you're seeing right now, is this Wisconsin or is this Seattle? I feel like that's.

[Adam Carolla]

It's supposed to be Wisconsin.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Wisconsin.

[Adam Carolla]

Is that what it is?

[Rudy Pavlitz]

So the other part of it, they don't.

[Adam Carolla]

Sanitation workers are coming in to try to come clean up their garbage. And they're attacking the sanitation workers. But this is chaos. You know, we're gonna make a barricade out of office chairs and trash bins. That some point someone. We have to pay someone to clean.

[Mary Travis]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Haul your trash. What do you want? What is it you want? You're gonna go out and fight ice? What do you want? Stand in front of a van, bitch. Like you just want chaos.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yeah. The other aspect of chaos is when Sophie Cunningham comes to Minneapolis and the coach of the Minnesota Lyn. Well, we just need to educate her. Why do you need to. Why is she wrong? She's not wrong about anything. Just. Cause she doesn't agree with you.

[Adam Carolla]

I know.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Why don't you open up camps and if you have those camps, you could educate young women on what women are and what men really are. And while we're at it, we could have a little kiosk so we could be educated about COVID and misinformation and disinformation. And then we could get a czar of mis and disinformation. So they could then control dangerous ideas pertaining, you know, if there's another Covid type breakout, who's gonna control the ideas? Yeah, we're gonna need that. Fauci's retiring, so he's gone. But who's gonna take Fauci's place and who's gonna help inform us? You know, someone's gonna have to show up on CNN and lie. Have to figure that person out. Yeah, we just need to be educated, by the way. They love fucking education.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Of course.

[Adam Carolla]

Education. The college campus is where everyone gets their fucking brains scrambled, you idiots. That's why we have chaos that get all these retards.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

If the WNBA was going to sign a transgender player. I don't know if you saw this. This just came up. But social media users are calling on the WNBA to sign transgender French basketball player Julie tatart, who averages 21 points per game. Now watch this first. Watch this first layup as she drives in the paint substantially bigger than everybody else on that court.

[Adam Carolla]

Tick, tick, boom.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

It just blows her right, right off the court.

[Adam Carolla]

I love that she does the chest bump with her mate because that's a dude thing.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

So this person was. Not only did they do they average 21 points per game last year I had it in front of me and I should have printed it off, but they. They won like player of the year, defensive player of the year. Had the most points, Most rebounds, averages 20 rebounds a game. If the WNBA was really all about what they say they are, they would have already gone down this route and sign somebody who is at that level.

[Adam Carolla]

We need to be educated. By the way, I don't feel like there's anything I need less education about than the trans situation. It's all I've heard. I could go with the Hoover Dam or the Golden Gate Bridge or World War I. Nonstop tranny talk over the last decade. I feel really schooled up, super educated. All the celebrities whose kids are trans. I know way more about trans. Listen, I like vintage Datsuns. You guys don't know shit about vintage Johnsons. I know a lot about trans. I like to find the average trans progressive person to tell me I need to be educated about the trans. And I'd go, all right, let's have a little competition. You tell me what you know about vintage Datsuns and I'll tell you what I know about trans.

[Mary Travis]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And I guarantee that I'm gonna whip your ass right now.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yeah. Although it would be nice if Trump was the coach of a WNBA team. Could you imagine him bringing in all these players, putting wigs on him? LeBron and James.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, okay. I don't know that you need a wig. I just think you just declare yourself a woman. Why bother with the wig, number one? Number two, an all male WNBA team would not need a coach.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yeah, It'd be like a player coach.

[Adam Carolla]

Here's our strategy.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Let's see if we can keep them. See if we can beat him by 75.

[Guest / Interviewee (possibly Rudy or another guest)]

Sure.

[Adam Carolla]

We only beat him by 60 last game. There'd be zero coaching. Like, if you just got NBA players and you had a team, you A, wouldn't practice and B, you wouldn't coach. You just go, we're playing street ball. Just fucking man to man or man to woman or woman to woman. Just go pick, pick whoever you want to cover and then just go do whatever you want with the ball.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yeah, you would.

[Adam Carolla]

Literally, there'd be no plays.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

I believe there was a.

[Adam Carolla]

There'd be no discussion. You wouldn't have one of those dry race boards drawn up shit. You wouldn't call timeouts. You wouldn't do anything. You could have your guys just go down in the middle of the game with plenty of time on the clock and launch it from three points or launch it from half court. And you wouldn't say anything. You wouldn't say, like, spread the ball around or pick and roll.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You wouldn't have any strategies or do anything. It'd be like if a major league baseball team played a little league team, would they care? Would the coach be counting pitches and going to the bullpen telling guys to try to walk this guy or bunt or. You wouldn't do anything. You just take all your dudes, you put them out on the dime and you'd crack a beer and you'd sit there.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

I believe it was Nevada. I just saw this recently. I think it's get the full story, but I think he took a little bit of heat because he was saying, well, how about the Las Vegas Aces go up against whoever wins the Nevada state basketball tournament in high school, and we'll see how they do? And everyone just went, I don't know. Sorry, it's not going to happen.

[Adam Carolla]

It's a conversation, literally. My adult life is learning how to pronounce new terrorist organizations and talking about trans, which is fucking insane.

[Rudy Pavlitz]

Ironically enough, it's the same word, Ace. Yes, Trans and terrorist organizations. Just say trans.

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[Rudy Pavlitz]

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[Adam Carolla]

All right, tomorrow, Seattle. Rudy's gonna be there doing shows Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Emerald City Comedy Club. Rudy's great. Stand up and watch us do our thing. Albuquerque, New Mexico. After that, hyenas. That'll be August 20th and then the 21st again, two shows at hyenas. Thursday, Friday, and then Saturday, Tucson, Arizona, Rialto theater. Go to amcroll.com for all the live shows. What do you got, Rudy?

[Rudy Pavlitz]

September 18th. I'll be in Columbia, Missouri, at the Tokyo Club. September 19th at a club just outside of Kansas City. And then my date in Boise, Idaho with Dawson got pushed back to the last weekend of January. Check out rudypovich comedy.com so till next

[Adam Carolla]

time, Adam for Rudy and Randy Travis and Mary Travis saying mahalo, leave us

[Dawson]

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