Victoria Jackson: SNL In the 80’s, Terminal Cancer, and Why Gavin Newsom’s an Alien + California on Fire Again!!!

Summary

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Adam Carolla Show – May 20, 2026

Guest: Victoria Jackson
Main Topics: SNL in the 80s, Terminal Cancer, Hollywood Memories, Gender Roles, California Politics, Fires & Fraud

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Episode Overview

Adam welcomes comedian and actress Victoria Jackson, best known for her six-year run on Saturday Night Live (SNL) during the late '80s and early '90s. The episode explores Victoria's unconventional showbiz beginnings, reflections on SNL, her recent cancer diagnosis, personal life philosophy, contemporary political rants, and a tour through recent headlines about California, government fraud, gender dynamics, and societal decline. The tone is a blend of frankness, sardonic humor, and moments of deep personal honesty.

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1. Victoria Jackson: Early Life & Career Origins

[03:20 – 07:45]

• SNL Tenure: Adam introduces Victoria Jackson, confirming she did six years on SNL from 1986 to 1992.
• Unique Stand-up Start: Victoria reminisces about her vaudeville roots—her dad was a coach, not a performer, but shaped by a theatrical and gymnastics-rich household.
  • “My first time I made people laugh was in high school. I was doing Lily Tomlin’s Edith Ann.” ([04:25], Victoria Jackson)
• Comedic Influences: Growing up without TV, her comedic style subconsciously pulled from Laugh-In (Goldie Hawn, Tiny Tim, Henry Gibson).
• Path to ‘Carson’ and SNL:
  • She clocked 20 appearances on The Tonight Show (18 with Carson, 1 with Leno, 1 guest spot with Garry Shandling).
  • “No one ever told me how I got the audition for Lorne, but one day...I got a call on my Kermit the Frog phone in Laurel Canyon…” ([07:04], Victoria)
• The SNL Audition: Despite not having “characters and impressions,” she improvises with her ukulele and handstand.

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2. Life, Cancer, and Faith

[09:44 – 17:39]

• Cancer Diagnosis: Victoria discusses her breast cancer journey:
  • Diagnosed in 2015 after noticing a dent (not a lump).
  • Underwent double mastectomy, radiation, and chemotherapy.
  • “You’re basically telling a complete stranger, ‘Yeah, cut them off.’” ([12:22], Victoria)
  • Cancer returned in 2023, now metastatic and terminal but “stable” due to a daily pill.
• Coping Philosophy: Her Baptist upbringing instilled acceptance of mortality.
  • “When I got diagnosed, I was just like, oh well, it’s about time something bad happens…” ([10:29], Victoria)
• Fear and Gratitude:
  • “What’s scarier than cancer? Stand-up comedy. And actually, a bad marriage.” ([18:05], Victoria)
  • Discusses the importance of quality of life over time: “If they said 10 years of pain, I’d rather die. If I get 10 good years like this, fantastic.” ([16:53])

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3. Reflections on Relationships, Gender, and Society

[17:39 – 21:03]

• Marriages: Two marriages—first to an “exhausted breadwinner” (fire eater/pianist), then to a SWAT officer/helicopter pilot.
• Changing Gender Roles: Adam laments modern emasculation.
  • “I’m disgusted at the current state of men ... Dudes are supposed to protect, fix stuff, make money. That’s all out the window.” ([19:08], Adam)
  • Victoria: “Feminism emasculated all the men. And I think there’s a swing back now.” ([20:32])

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4. Hollywood & SNL Memories

[23:31 – 38:39]

• Growing up near Molly Ringwald: Adam shares how they both ended up on the Hollywood Walk of Fame ([23:51]).
• Behind-the-Scenes at SNL:
  • High stress and competitiveness for airtime.
  • “It was super stressful … very competitive for airtime. … on SNL, you have to write your own stuff and then compete against the Church Lady …” ([26:58], Victoria)
• Kind Castmates: Lovitz, Carvey, Nealon all helped write material for her.
  • “Lovitz wrote ‘Victoria’s Secrets’ for me... Dana wrote me into his first Church Lady as Ginny the church girl.” ([27:34], Victoria)
• SNL Personalities: Dennis Miller was not “warm and fuzzy” ([29:10]), Phil Hartman seemed unknowable ([32:47]).
• Tragedies: Victoria recounts being at Phil Hartman’s house less than a year before his murder-suicide, noting his wife “was real hyper” and confided in Victoria about personal struggles ([31:45]).

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5. Trauma, Loss, and the Collateral Damage of COVID

[42:11 – 46:31]

• Family Losses in COVID:
  • Victoria’s younger brother, an architect, committed suicide after job/family loss due to pandemic shutdowns.
    • “We should never stop being angry at those who locked everyone down on Covid ... people like your brother don’t really even count.” ([43:02], Adam)
  • Her mother died of COVID pneumonia, contracted in a hospital following a fall ([46:00]).
• Victoria’s Perspective:
  • “Government got too powerful” with COVID closures.
  • Contrasting life in Nashville (“no one wore a mask”) with LA/New York.

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6. Divorce, Money, and Human Nature

[38:48 – 53:17]

• Financial Fallout of Divorce: Victoria lost her money to her first husband—the “fire eater.” Discusses broader theme of people’s lack of integrity when money’s at stake.
  • “It is sad … people can justify or rationalize anything.” ([39:28], Adam)
• Adam gives the Ray Carruth murder-for-hire story as a dark example of what people do for little money ([53:17]).

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7. SNL Exit & Afterlife

[37:48 – 51:05]

• Leaving SNL: Chose to exit after six years to be with her daughter and reunite with her high school sweetheart (the cop).
• Big Decisions:
  • Turned down a sitcom starring George Clooney to restart her personal life.
  • “I was at the top of my career and had to choose. That was really hard.” ([50:25], Victoria)
  • Still married after 33 years, though recent years have been hard; “He did ask for a divorce two years ago, and then my diagnosis...he changed his mind.” ([51:05])

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8. Society, Politics & Cultural Critique

[56:13 – 62:37]

• Newsom & Political Inscrutability:
  • Adam: “I have no idea who Gavin Newsom is ... Maybe he’s a lizard man.” ([37:39])
• On Progressivism:
  • Victoria: “The word progressive means communist.” ([56:54])
• Government Fraud: Rants about Minnesota’s “Feeding Our Future” scam ([77:55] onwards).
  • “There’s always going to be people trying to run scams … That’s why we have an attorney general.” ([82:04], Adam)
  • Media bias, euphemistic charity names, and lack of accountability.
• California on Fire:
  • Chronic wildfires: Adam laments declining infrastructure management ([73:16–74:50]).
  • “Fire should be pretty controllable … we should do that.” ([73:16], Adam)
  • Jokes about using prisoners for brush-clearing instead of goats ([77:19]).

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9. Gender, Drag, and Political Theater

[94:42–100:03]

• Scott Wiener’s Campaign / Drag Satire: Adam acerbically critiques California State Senator Wiener’s use of LGBTQ themes in campaigns.
  • “Everything doesn’t have to be trans and gay. But here we are.” ([96:26], Adam)
  • Victoria joins laughter; both decry over-the-top public drag events and their effect on public perception.
  • Adam: “They don’t want equality…they want to agitate and provoke, and then they get to become a victim.” ([100:03])

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10. Notable Quotes

• On Adversity & Faith:
  • “All my sins came after I was saved. And so I never could really…I was kind of jealous [of those with dramatic testimonies].” ([10:04], Victoria)
• On Quality vs. Quantity of Life (Terminal Cancer):
  • “If they said you have 10 years laying in bed in pain, I want to die … If I have 10 years of being like this, fantastic.” ([16:53], Victoria)
• On Gender Roles:
  • “Feminism emasculated all the men … there’s a swing back to masculinity.” ([20:32], Victoria)
• On Political Leaders:
  • “I have no idea who Gavin Newsom is. I've sat here, I've talked to him … Maybe he's a lizard man.” ([37:36], Adam)

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11. Timestamps for Key Segments

• Victoria’s Start/SNL Entry: [03:20–09:16]
• Cancer & Faith: [09:44–17:39]
• On Gender Roles & Money: [17:39–21:03], [38:48–39:36]
• SNL Inside Stories: [26:58–36:15]
• Phil Hartman, Tragedy & Addiction: [29:31–32:44]
• COVID Trauma & Loss: [42:11–46:31]
• Divorce, Nature of People: [38:48–53:17]
• Political Rants & Society: [56:13–62:37], [77:55–85:25]
• Wildfires & Environment: [73:16–77:44]
• California Drag/Political Kabuki: [94:42–100:03]

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12. Episode Highlights & Memorable Moments

• Victoria’s improv of SNL character voices for Lorne Michaels on the spot. ([08:05–08:43])
• Her stoicism and humor about terminal cancer and “trendsetter” joke about mastectomies. ([12:51])
• Darkly comic take on divorce finances: “It’s always funny when a woman loses the money to me.” ([38:59], Adam)
• Discussion of Gavin Newsom as inscrutable/alien.
• Scott Wiener drag performance and Adam’s extended riff on identity politics in California ([94:42–100:03])

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13. Closing & Additional Notes

• Victoria’s Book: Not Dead Yet: A Lifetime of Handstands, Art, and Poetry—available now.
• Requests update from Victoria on her health, offers heartfelt kudos.
• Adam’s sharp, at times abrasive, signature style runs through, tempered by Victoria’s quirky, candid sincerity.

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For those who haven’t listened, this episode is a raw, unexpectedly moving, and often laugh-out-loud look at showbiz, mortality, faith, and the state of modern America—by turns irreverent, poignant, and unapologetically unfiltered.

Transcript

[Adam Carolla]

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[Adam Yenzer]

From Corolla 1 Studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Carolla Show. Adam's guest today, legendary Saturday Night Live performer Victoria Jackson. Plus the news with Adam Yenzer. And now Adam Corolla.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, get it on. Got to get on a choice we're going to mandate you get it on. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for telling a friend. Victoria Jackson in Studio SNL alum during the during the prime years 86 to 92. So that means seven. Does that mean seven seasons?

[Victoria Jackson]

Six seasons?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, six is the math. But like if you played in The NFL from 80 to 86, you count 80 and then you've played for seven years in the NFL. But. All right, yeah, six years. SNL start off as doing stand up, but doing kind of headstands and poetry and stuff like that. Right? Like, different stuff.

[Victoria Jackson]

I started in stand up, actually. I started. I don't know. I don't know what started. My dad was in vaudeville.

[Adam Carolla]

Your dad was in vaudeville?

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, interesting. Where'd you grow up?

[Victoria Jackson]

Miami. Really? We had a gym in our backyard.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh. So was it a lot of gymnastics and that kind of stuff? And your dad did theatrical stuff?

[Victoria Jackson]

No, he was a coach. And we competed, you know, very serious. 9.4 on the balance beam. We had a team. And I discovered in comedy, your mistakes could be an attribute on the balance beam. Oh, your knee is bent, your toe isn't pointed. Three points up, three points off, you know? Anyway, my first play was at Furman in college. My first time I made people laugh was in high school. I was doing Lily Tomlin's Edith Ann. My name is Edith Ann and I'm five and a half years old. I never asked to be bored. If I did, Mama wouldn't have said no, not that one.

[Adam Carolla]

Edith Ann was a very famous character. She probably did on Laugh In.

[Victoria Jackson]

Mm. And we didn't have a tv, so I would see Laugh in at my grandmother's house when we were being babysat. And 30 years later, 30 years after I left SNL, I realized that my whole stand up routine was stolen from Laugh In. That's the power of television. Ditziness from Goldie Hawn, ukulele from Tiny Tim, a poem by Henry Gibson.

[Adam Carolla]

And these are all Laugh in cast members.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah. And that's the only TV I saw when, you know, once in a while. And that became my standup act. To try to get on Carson, to try to get to be an airhead on a sitcom, that was my goal.

[Adam Carolla]

And you made it onto Carson.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah, 20 times.

[Adam Carolla]

20 times on Carson. Not Leno, right?

[Victoria Jackson]

Well, I think I was 18 with Carson, one with Leno, one with Shandling when they.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, Garry Shandling was guest hosting. Yeah. That's kind of the thing. In a weird way, Letterman is kind of my Carson. Like, I did Letterman a couple of times when Letterman hosted. And now the young comedians, they do the show, but it's Jimmy Fallon or it's Whomever hosting. I don't even know who hosts everything now. But the point is they kind of missed Letterman, but they loved Letterman. And for me, older guys like me, I missed Carson. I did the Tonight Show a bunch of times with Leno, but never With Carson. So doing Carson 18 times?

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

How old were you the first time he did Carson?

[Victoria Jackson]

23.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Victoria Jackson]

And he got me Letterman. Never got me. Letterman was kind of mean to me. I was on him twice and he was just very rude.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, he's a rude guy.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah. But Johnny got me. The first act I did, six minutes was handstand, poetry, ukulele, blah, blah, blah.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, how does. How did SNL come about?

[Victoria Jackson]

I think. I think Lauren saw me on Carson.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, okay.

[Victoria Jackson]

No one ever told me how I got the audition for Lauren, but one day out of the blue, I got a call on my Kermit the Frog phone in Laurel Canyon and I was the breadwinner and I had a baby and I was desperate for any work I could get. And I had just done a Mitsubishi car commercial and no, I'd just been in the movie the Pickup Artist with Robert Downey Jr. Kissing him in a car for a long time.

[Adam Carolla]

Nice.

[Victoria Jackson]

And Lauren had just fired Robert Downey Jr. Oh, right.

[Adam Carolla]

He was on the cast, maybe mine.

[Victoria Jackson]

I don't know how, but my phone rang and they said, would you like to audition for SNL? There's a plane waiting for you at LAX at 8:30 tomorrow morning.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah, like mission impossible should you choose to accept. And afterwards the smoke will come out and the table disappear. And so I went to lax. They said, bring your characters and your impressions. And I didn't have any.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Victoria Jackson]

So I brought my ukulele in my handstand and I flew to New York and I auditioned with 12 other girls flown in from the country, around the country, in Canada. And then Lauren wanted to talk to me, so they asked me to stay one more night. And then he said, you had a very funny audition. I'm not sure you're strong in characters and impressions. And he was kind of ushering me out of the office. And I thought, I'm so close. And I went, well, I could talk like this. This could be a character. And he goes. I go, oh, I could talk like this big character. And he's like. And then he goes, well, what if I wanted you to be a Midwestern housewife? And I said, well, I am a housewife and my parents are from the Midwest. And then he goes, what if I wanted you to be Diane Keaton? I said, well, I would wear men's clothes and look at the ground a lot. And so then I was flying back home to la. Laurel Canyon, had to pay thousand dollar mortgage. My husband was an out of work fire eater, piano player, and he ate Fire. That was his.

[Adam Carolla]

So it's like a circusy thing.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah, Well, I was kind of circusy too, right? See my circus theme?

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Victoria Jackson]

Well, that was. I was born into that because of my dad. My dad was like lifting girls over his head in a hand to hand, hand balancing thing in my backyard my whole childhood.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Victoria Jackson]

Like holding a girl on his head, standing on one foot. And we would do shows at the hotels on Miami beach for the tourists from the snowbirds.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Victoria Jackson]

The people who talked like that.

[Adam Carolla]

So people should know you were diagnosed with cancer.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

And they should also know the name of your book, by the way. Not Dead yet. A lifetime of handstands, art and poetry. It's available now on Amazon and hardcover. It's a big, beautiful book.

[Victoria Jackson]

It looks like a textbook. So I thought they could teach it in college and call it Victoriology.

[Adam Carolla]

So can we get an update to cancer diagnosis?

[Victoria Jackson]

Yes, it is very serious. But since I was raised in the Baptist church, since I was. Can you turn up my headphones?

[Adam Carolla]

I can't hear them. You can turn them on. I had a feeling.

[Victoria Jackson]

I can't hear myself.

[Adam Carolla]

Does that sound any better? You want it there?

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay.

[Victoria Jackson]

So since I grew up in the church, we heard about death all the time, you know, John 3:16. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. So everlasting life was like in my brain, my whole since I was born. And death and the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. So when I got diagnosed, I was just like, oh, well, it's about time something bad happens to me, you know? Oh, my testimony is going to get much juicier now because, you know, a lot of people say I was a heroin addict and a prostitute. And then I got saved and my life changed. And I was like six when I went forward to accept Jesus. So all my sins came after I was saved. And so I never could really. I was kind of jealous.

[Adam Carolla]

Are you doing chemo? Are you doing any?

[Victoria Jackson]

Oh, I'll tell you all about the cancer.

[Adam Carolla]

Tell me.

[Victoria Jackson]

So in 2015 had a dent right

[Adam Carolla]

here in your breast?

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah, not a lump, a dent. And I was like, that's weird. And so the big machine said it looked like a spider. I saw a little spider. And they're like, oh, this is not good.

[Adam Carolla]

Who. What? What are you talking about?

[Victoria Jackson]

The ultrasound.

[Adam Carolla]

The ultrasound said spider.

[Victoria Jackson]

Well, it looked like a black Spider. Spider with tentacles.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, okay. All right.

[Victoria Jackson]

And so I got a double mastectomy, which means I gave permission to a stranger, a woman with an accent from Chile and a good bedside manner, to cut them off.

[Adam Carolla]

20, 15, 16.

[Victoria Jackson]

20, 2015. And it's like you're telling a complete stranger, and you're like, you know, yeah, kind of off. And then. And so then radiation, chemotherapy, and then 10 years went by, and I didn't think about it. And I kind of like to think that I'm a trendsetter, because after I got my boobs cut off, all the young girls.

[Adam Carolla]

All the young girls wanted to be dudes.

[Victoria Jackson]

They wanted to cut theirs off, too. They were. They wanted to look like me. So that's a joke. I'm. I'm trying to write a new act. Your producer Nick said that. Is he your producer Nick?

[Adam Carolla]

No, but go ahead.

[Victoria Jackson]

He. He said he would give me some. Some minutes at the. At his comedy club this week. Or I could video My new six minutes I'm working on about cancer. Anyway, so 10 years goes by. I don't really think about it that much. You know, no pain, cancer. I don't know. There's no pain, really. And then I was doing stand up two years ago in Las Vegas at a very small venue. I don't do big venues like Dana Carvey, but I do small venues. And they never threw tomatoes or anything. And I kept coughing, and the audience thought I had Covid.

[Adam Carolla]

And they were like, right.

[Victoria Jackson]

So I went to the doctor. I'm like, this is ridiculous. This cough won't go away. There was breast cancer cells pushing on my windpipe, and I couldn't breathe. I was coughing all the time. Is this boring yet? And so they radiate. I said, well, cut it out. And he goes, we can't. I'm like, what? So then I went on my Instagram and I would. If people are going to talk about me behind my back, I'd rather, like, talk about me. So I went on my Instagram and I said, I got diagnosed.

[Adam Carolla]

So they can't cure it?

[Victoria Jackson]

No, because it's metastasized. There's breast cancer cells all over my body now. It moved through it, so we can't cut them all out. So basically, they radiated that. And now I can breathe, and I know what it's like to not be able to breathe. And I have so much empathy for people who are suffering like that, who can't breathe or have any kind.

[Adam Carolla]

So is it a terminal diagnosis?

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah. So now I can breathe, but Then they found cancer on five vertebrae and my pelvic bone, but it's not bothering anything. And they gave me a magic pill. I take one a day, and it keeps my type of cancer from growing, so it's working. So I'm stable. So I'm terminal, but I'm stable?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. So what's that mean?

[Victoria Jackson]

I think that they don't tell you much, but I think it means that if the cancer went to my liver or my pancreas, I think I would die quickly. But since it's just hanging out and not going to the important organs, then it's just hanging out. I don't know. Like, people have prostate cancer for a long time.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Well, here's an insane question, probably in poor taste, but what would you be happy with? Like, if I said, you got 10 more years, would you go, that's good, or would you go, that's. That's disappointing? You know what I mean? Like, you have cancer and it's terminal, but it's stopped. But there's gotta be some. You know, do the doctors talk about, you know, X amount of years or you should be good because it stopped? Or what do they say? But you can ask them.

[Victoria Jackson]

Well, I told my doctor, don't tell me too much, because if you tell me your magic pill gives these side effects, I will think I have those side effects.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, that's a good point.

[Victoria Jackson]

So, like, since he didn't tell me the side effects, I kind of googled it one day out of curiosity. But the only ones I notice are fatigue and hair loss. But I never had a lot of

[Adam Carolla]

hair anyway, so it's terminal, but it stopped moving.

[Victoria Jackson]

Let me answer your question. If they said you have 10 years of laying in bed in pain, I want to die. Because I started having hip pain this year, and it was so bad that I actually looked at the beautiful red cardinal out my window. And I usually say, oh, God, you're saying hi to me. Oh, I love birds. I love the red. And this one day, I was like, f the cardinal because my hips were hurting so bad. And I thought, what if this gets worse? And I'm just laying in bed writhing and pain, but they have morphine and everything.

[Adam Carolla]

No, you make a real Good point. Not 10 years hooked up to a hospital bed. You're right.

[Victoria Jackson]

Okay, so If I had 10 years of being like this, fantastic. I am. My life is better in a lot of ways.

[Adam Carolla]

Did you open for Norm? I think a few times. Going out doing standup. It's funny. Don't even have to say Norm MacDonald. You can just say Norm. That's kind of cool.

[Victoria Jackson]

And he had cancer and didn't tell anyone. Yeah, see, I'm different.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I mean, you're both pretty stoic in your approach to this. I must say. Neither one of you is looking for sympathy.

[Victoria Jackson]

I'll tell you what's scarier than cancer. Stand up comedy. And actually a bad marriage. I was thinking there's worse things than cancer and death marriage.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I'll be. I'm with you on that.

[Victoria Jackson]

I've had hard marriages.

[Adam Carolla]

You mean the guy who ate fire didn't turn out to be the greatest gentleman all time?

[Victoria Jackson]

No, he was nice.

[Adam Carolla]

He was good.

[Victoria Jackson]

He was very nice. He didn't talk to me the last three years of our marriage.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, his mouth was on. He burnt his lips. How could he speak?

[Victoria Jackson]

He was nice too.

[Adam Carolla]

He was nice.

[Victoria Jackson]

He played the piano really good.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, okay. I would say the guy. I'd bill him as a piano, as a pianist versus a fire eater.

[Victoria Jackson]

Well, I like to say fire eater because that sets him apart from all the other pants.

[Adam Carolla]

That's a good point. So that guy was okay.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah. But the problem was I was the breadwinner and had a child and I couldn't. I was exhausted. And he. I think it was hard on him for me to keep getting recognition.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't. By the way, the guys out there that don't seem to make money and let their women make money for them. I don't know how they live with themselves. I really don't. I know they're out there. I know it's kind of a California thing, maybe a Hollywood thing. I'm disgusted at the current state of men. I am not religious and I'm not traditional, but I am old fashioned. And I think dudes are supposed to be able to protect people. They're supposed to be able to fix stuff and they're supposed to be able to make money. And that's kind of your job. And that's all out the window. And for some reason, women in the last 25 years, we decided that they should do all the roles that men did. And then by virtue of that, men stopped doing the roles men do. And now it's a fucking shit show because we have a bunch of miserable women who don't have kids who have to work all the time and a bunch of lazy, useless sack of shit dudes just sitting around the house ordering grubhub and getting fat sad.

[Victoria Jackson]

I totally agree with you.

[Adam Carolla]

Thank you.

[Victoria Jackson]

And I think it bothered him because he had, like, a musician's personality, and he wasn't. I mean, I wish he would have gotten a job, but.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I wish he would have gotten a job. He should have gotten a job.

[Victoria Jackson]

But I agree with you. And I was raised traditionally, and I do think that feminism emasculated all the men. And I think there's a swing back now to masculinity.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, there is.

[Victoria Jackson]

My second husband was a SWAT guy. Police officer.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, there you go.

[Victoria Jackson]

Helicopter pilot.

[Adam Carolla]

Helicopter pilot?

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah. That's a dude in Miami.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, my God.

[Victoria Jackson]

So he's very, very, very manly and has nothing to do with show business, which is kind of good and kind of.

[Adam Carolla]

You know what's weird? I just thought of this, and, Andrew, you're gonna have to look it up and make sure I'm correct here. But you're talking about the pickup artist, and you're talking about Robert Downey Jr. But the female lead in that movie was Molly Ringwald.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And I just found out. And you can look this up, Andrew. I shall be getting my star in the Walk of Fame shortly. Maybe a week and a half or something like that. And so I thought, who else is getting their star on the Walk of Fame this year? I would be curious to know. And when I was looking it up, they have categories online. They had actor and performer, TV actor, movie actor, different categories. I looked online. It didn't have my category online, which is radio. But as I was looking up and I was seeing these names, Timothee Chalamet and stuff like that, Molly Ringwald came up. And then I realized people listening to the show know Molly Ringwald grew up. Up the street from me on Hartsook street in North Hollywood. And at some point in 1980. Let's see. Is it Molly Ringwald in there? Yeah, Molly Ringwald's in there. Stanley Tucci, Tony Scott, posthumous. Rami Malek, Keith David. There's Keith David, and then there's David Keith. One's a white guy, one's a black guy. Here's the whole point. Emily Blunt. Okay, they're all getting it this year, I guess I couldn't find the radio category. I couldn't find my category. But the whole point is, at some point, I was sitting in the Ringwald home because I was friends with the family. And Adele Ringwald, the mom, was Bacon Pie. She liked to bake. Miniature house. I'm talking about a ranch house in the Valley that was probably about 800 or 900 square foot. Like, here's. Here's the thing. I grew up in Shitboxes in the Valley. If I walked into your house and noticed it was a small house, that's a bad sign, because I grew up in a small house.

[Victoria Jackson]

Me, too.

[Adam Carolla]

And at some point, me and Molly Ringwald were just sitting in this miniature ranch house off of Hartsook in Laurel Canyon, and it's 1980, and now on the same year, we're both going into the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

[Victoria Jackson]

Cool.

[Adam Carolla]

I defy any other small street to beat that. By the way, we lived on the same street. We're two blocks apart. Hmm. Life is weird, right?

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And I see it's not that weird in that I would assume she had a star in the Walk of fame in 1989. Not now. Not this year. Not the year I'm going in.

[Victoria Jackson]

That's a weird year.

[Adam Carolla]

Maybe she said, I'm not going in until my neighbor Adam Carolla goes in. Oh, and by the way, her dad,

[Victoria Jackson]

Bob, blind and piano player.

[Adam Carolla]

There you go. It's all come full circle.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Most recent radio category, division addition to Hollywood Walk of Fame. Me, Richard Blade, and Angie Angel. It must be Angel Martinez. I don't think it's Angie Martinez. I think Angel Martinez is the name. I know. Anyway, Richard Blade's getting in. I wonder if he's gonna take his shirt off. He do that a lot.

[Victoria Jackson]

I don't know who that is.

[Adam Carolla]

Is it Angel Martinez or is it Angie Martinez? Angie. Hmm. Well, there you go. When's the Blade getting in? Do they have a date for Richard Blade? Yeah, I knew him from KROC all those years ago. Oh, he went in in 2024. He's already in. Well, you know the reason I was asking, because it's weird. He is going to be part of the ceremony and is part of the official Hollywood whatever. Like, he does the announcements or something. So I saw his name and wonder maybe he was getting in this year. All right, anyway, Walk of Fame, Molly Ringwald. Kind of weird, right?

[Victoria Jackson]

That's cool.

[Adam Carolla]

And Bob, who was blind. Bob, who was blind, would make his way from that little house in North Hollywood to the courthouse in Van Nuys, where they later ran a little business, a little food business. And he would get himself there. He would walk down Laurel Canyon, he would sit and take the bus. Would take the bus down like Chandler, get off with his stick. He would basically walk from his house in North Hollywood to the Van Nuys courtroom house, which was six and a half miles away, and just go there every day on his own, just walking with his cane, hopping the bus. Kind of crazy. Right.

[Victoria Jackson]

The human spirit.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I don't. By the way, I don't know. Could you do that today in la? Would it be safe? Would you trip over a homeless guy and get hepatitis? Would you step on a needle?

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So, snl, what was that experience like?

[Victoria Jackson]

Well, it was super stressful.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Victoria Jackson]

No sleep for six years. Very competitive for airtime. Because if you're an airhead on a sitcom, someone writes your lines, gives them to you, and you get to be funny and get your paycheck. But on snl, you have to write your own stuff and then compete against the church lady to try to get airtime. And. And it was so exciting and it changed my life and it was wonderful and it was brilliant.

[Adam Carolla]

Who was your favorite? Who was your least favorite over there?

[Victoria Jackson]

Well, I love John Lovitz and he gave me a blurb on the back of my book. He's very mysterious. I don't really know about his private life, but he was nice to me. Dana was nice to me. Kevin was nice to me kneeling. Yeah. Those three tried to help me get in the show. They would write me stuff. Kevin wrote me in his Roseanne Barr on his Baba Wawa thing. And Lovitz wrote Victoria's Secrets for me. I have three secrets I'd like to share with you, which don't tell anyone. It'll just be our little secret. He wrote me that. And Dana, what did Rayner wrote? He wrote me into his first church lady as Ginny the church girl. And it was really fun.

[Adam Carolla]

Was Dennis Miller doing the news?

[Victoria Jackson]

Yes. I did my first hand stand on the update desk with a flag on my butt because I didn't have any training in improv. I never heard of improv. So I thought, well, I know how to write what I say. So I thought, I'll do a handstand. Talk about how you couldn't have this freedom if you lived in Communist Russia and pretend it's a report on Russia or whatever. Yeah. Oh, I did a bunch of. Oh, then I did I Love a Cop Hands. And then I did I'm Not a Bimbo and making fun of Jessica Hahn, who I later met and had a nice friendship with.

[Adam Carolla]

Is Miller could be tough to work with. Was he tough to work with?

[Victoria Jackson]

We had great chemistry on camera. But in real life, he's not warm and fuzzy.

[Adam Carolla]

No. No. But I don't know. I'm kind of okay with that.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So, God, you had. Was Phil Hartman there when you were there?

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah. And I was in his house, like, a year before the Murder, suicide.

[Adam Carolla]

What is crazier? I'm going to put it to the. I'm going to put it to the panel here. Is Rob Reiner's murder crazier than Phil Hartman?

[Victoria Jackson]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

I kind of agree, but, man, I could make some Phil Hartman arguments too. Well, I'll say this. Phil Hartman was 25 years younger than Rob Reiner when he was murdered. Which makes it more tragic because however way you want to describe things, having 25 years knocked off, you know, your life's a pretty big deal.

[Victoria Jackson]

And it seems worse to have your own child do it than your spouse. Because I agree, domestic violence is common.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. No spouse, I'd be like, I figured this was coming. You know what I mean? But your own kid? Yeah, that's worse. And with a knife versus a bullet. Yeah, I agree. Worse. But, I mean, Phil Hartman was in his 40s.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

How old do you think Phil was?

[Victoria Jackson]

I don't know.

[Adam Yenzer]

See, it is a tough question, because Phil Hart, like, you can't. You can't disassociate yourself from your son as much as Phil Hartman could have somehow gotten away.

[Adam Carolla]

Hold on. Dawson's got it.

[Adam Yenzer]

Phil.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Adam Yenzer]

I still think. If you're asking, I still think that the Rob Reiner and his wife murders, much more horrific.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah. Wife too. I forgot. Yeah. Well, it's got the two bodies, but Phil's.

[Adam Yenzer]

But you can't get away from your son. You can get away from your wife.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Adam Yenzer]

And so I think in that way, Hartman's might have been avoidable and piss you off more.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Hartman was 49, but Rob was. I don't know. What was Rob, 76, 77 or something. So the age thing is tough, but the two. And it's all bad, but I agree. I'll go. Rob's crazy. So you were there?

[Victoria Jackson]

I was at their house a little less than a year before.

[Adam Carolla]

How does wife seem?

[Victoria Jackson]

She invited me to na Narc Anonymous and aa. She said, if you ever wanna go with me. She was real hyper. She's like, if you ever wanna go with me to narc. You know?

[Adam Carolla]

Narcotics Anonymous.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And why would she ask you if you wanna go to that?

[Victoria Jackson]

I don't know. I didn't know her that good. And she started telling me private things like she thought he was cheating on her and stuff. And I thought, why is she telling me? I don't really know her. The reason I was there was because Dana and Phil surprised me. I wrote a children's album and I was performing it for children at a bookstore in the Valley and they showed up with their kids to surprise me. And then afterwards we all went to Phil's to have lunch together and that was really sweet of them because I don't really hobnob with famous people very much.

[Adam Carolla]

Phil seemed really nice.

[Victoria Jackson]

He was very professional and very nice, but I don't know who he was. Like I couldn't get to know him.

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[Adam Carolla]

You know, I have been around the sketch and improv game for a while and I was and the guys who did the most characters were the guys that were hardest to get to know because they used it as a way and they all had this kind of weird thing like you think about Jim Carrey like the Real version or the just relaxed version of Jim Carrey or the guys who do all the characters, like, I don't know, Sacha Baron Cohen or something like that. I don't know. When you talk about other comedic personalities, Bert Kreisler, you know, like, okay, I know who that guy is. Or Jimmy Fallon, those guys, like, you know who they are, the guys. I mean, Jimmy does a lot of impersonations. I should say it, but like, there are comedians where like, Jan Hooks, you go, I know who that person is. And then the ones who do all the characters, and I think they use it as a defense in a weird way.

[Victoria Jackson]

Well, Jan Hooks, I was on the Half Hour Comedy Hour with her before SNL and on six years with her, and I never knew who she was, but she could do anybody. Yeah, she's brilliant at doing. I keep saying brilliant because I just saw that play on Broadway. Every brilliant thing. So I keep saying the word brilliant. It's stuck in my head. But anyway, Jan was like that. I don't know who she.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah, I agree with you that there are just people where you just don't know who they are. And they would defend themselves. Like, they would go, what do you mean? We've talked a bunch of times. Remember that time we went out to lunch, I told you about my father passing or something, and I'd go, I know. I just don't feel like I know you. It's not really about how many times we've talked. It's not about the time you shared. You know, you told me you were getting divorced before anyone knew or whatever. It's not really that. There's just a component about you that kind of makes you non human. I'll tell you who's that way. Gavin Newsom. I have no idea who Gavin Newsom is. I've sat here, I've talked to him. I don't know who he is. I've seen him talk a thousand times, been on a thousand podcasts. I have no idea who he is. And that is weird. It's kind of weird and attractive to some people. To me, it's a turn off.

[Victoria Jackson]

Maybe they're aliens.

[Adam Carolla]

Maybe he's a lizard man.

[Victoria Jackson]

The Grays are the other thing. So maybe they're pretending to be people and they're really not people.

[Adam Carolla]

How did it end at snl?

[Victoria Jackson]

Lauren said I could stay as long as I want. And I was going through a divorce from the fire eater, and I had my child at home and I. I thought it was time to go. My contract was Five years, and I stayed six. And I was taking the train an hour and a half one way from Connecticut to 30 Rock to have like two lines in the show and then an hour and a half back every day missing her childhood. And. And I. So, yeah, and then I was falling in love with my high school sweetheart, the cop. And so I thought.

[Adam Carolla]

The pilot cop.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah, so I thought that'd be better.

[Adam Carolla]

So like, you're getting divorced.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah, I thought my daughter would have a father who had a job. And I. Yeah, I was always playing all these roles of women in love and I thought, I want to really be in love and kiss someone every night and make dinner. I don't want to just play roles of it all the time.

[Adam Carolla]

How was the fire eater taking it?

[Victoria Jackson]

He got very rich.

[Adam Carolla]

He got very rich.

[Victoria Jackson]

I'm not allowed to talk about it, but let's just say I lost all my money.

[Adam Carolla]

It's always funny when a woman loses the money to me.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah. And I had the child, you got the kid.

[Adam Carolla]

Who are these guys? Who are these guys? Little, little problems with character and dignity. I would never take money from somebody if I didn't earn it. But it is sad. And it's also, you realize people can justify or rationalize anything, especially when you hear them talk.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And by the way, that's what we're living in. Everybody's just taking everyone else's money. Rationalizing it.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yes, I agree. You know what the fire eater taught me though? He taught me because I was in la, I didn't have any family or friends, I didn't know how to do it. And he taught me that if you say your something, you are like. He'd say, I'm a songwriter and I'm like, you are. And he would play like the same 12 songs every day. And they were really good, but like, were they original? Yeah, him and his brothers wrote him. They were banned, which broke up before I met him. He was 10 years older than me, helped me get my credit card and everything. But the thing is like he taught me that. So I was like, oh. So in la, if you go, I'm a director. You're a director?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Victoria Jackson]

What is anyone gonna say? Show me your work. Oh, I'm working on a project right now.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, right. Yeah.

[Victoria Jackson]

And he taught me that because I didn't know you can do that. So I was like, oh, well, I'm a stand up and I'm an actress and I'm a writer, I'm an author.

[Adam Carolla]

But once you get on snl, that's a real title.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

That's a really elite fraternity.

[Victoria Jackson]

I got validated.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, you got validated.

[Victoria Jackson]

My little whim. I thought I could do it and did it. It's a great feeling in that. No one could take that away from me.

[Adam Carolla]

No. Much like my induction into the Walk of Fame, it'll always be there. No one will care. But it's there.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So after snl.

[Victoria Jackson]

Hey, did you know Billy Graham has a star on the Hollywood Billboard?

[Adam Carolla]

I imagine everybody does now.

[Victoria Jackson]

I don't.

[Adam Carolla]

You don't. I'll get you on there.

[Victoria Jackson]

But I thought Billy Graham was funny. I saw it one day by accident, so I took a handstand picture in front of it, and it's in there. That's my handstand collection of everywhere I've ever been.

[Adam Carolla]

The book.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah. And all the poems I've written since I was 10.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah.

[Victoria Jackson]

Which became songs because Jim McCauley at the Tonight show said, if you put a poem to music, you can make a lot more money, even if you only know three chords, like the Rolling Stones. I Can't get no satisfaction I can't get no satisfaction Would have gone nowhere as a poem.

[Adam Carolla]

Funny. First page I turned to is Beeman Park. Studio City Park. The park I used to go to. You're doing a handstand on the parallel bars. The first page I turned to, that's where my football. The East Valley Trojans Pop Warner for. That's a park I grew up practicing football in. And I just recognize it from says Studio City. But that's Beeman park, and that's my brother.

[Victoria Jackson]

And he committed suicide during COVID Oh, really? Yeah. It affected him.

[Adam Carolla]

How did it affect.

[Victoria Jackson]

Because he's an architect and lived in la, in the hills. And there was Covid cutbacks at his company and he lost his job. And then his fiance left him because he didn't have a job. Then he got depressed and he started spiraling down and. Yep. That was 2021. I write about it in there.

[Adam Carolla]

Your brother killed. Was he? Did you say? Sorry. Older brother.

[Adam Yenzer]

Younger.

[Victoria Jackson]

He was one year younger.

[Adam Carolla]

One year younger, yeah. Oh, that is so sad. He was an architect.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And Covid just shut. Shut his world down.

[Victoria Jackson]

Well, he lost his job. No health insurance. Lost his fiance. Had to stay home all the time.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. We should never stop being angry at those who locked everyone down on Covid and locked the kids out and shut the schools and shut the beaches and shut the parks and shut the churches. We should never stop being angry at these people. It drives me Insane. Of course they want to turn the page. Why wouldn't you? You guys created this horrible. By the way, it can't even be measured because people like your brother don't really even count. By the way, they wouldn't count your brother unless he was a Capitol Hill policeman and committed suicide. And then they would count him as someone who died during January 6th. But all the collateral damage that they have done to kids with self harm and drug abuse and depression and all the stuff that can't even be measured because these corrupt assholes shut this place down with the Dr. Hotez and the Sanjay Guptas and the Fauci's. It's insane what these people did. And they should be always. They should at least be mocked and humiliated as much as humanly possible. And I never stopped doing it.

[Victoria Jackson]

Good. Thank you.

[Adam Carolla]

And I'm proud to say that if you looked at my text, sorry, all my exes and all my tweets, everything I tweeted out during COVID you will see that I called people pussies and cowards over and over and over again. And Dr. Drew was like, why do you have to be so insulting? And I'm like, I'm intentionally trying to insult these people. And that's why I keep calling them cowards and pussies. That's all I did was sit home and tweet out, calling everyone a coward and a pussy. And anytime someone tweeted me and was like, hey, man, my grandfather, I just write back, get under the bed, pussy.

[Victoria Jackson]

I hate communism because I grew up in Miami when Cuba moved to Miami because of Castro. And I know all the stories about it. And this was a big government control thing, the COVID thing. The government got too powerful.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Victoria Jackson]

We had to fight back. On where I live an hour outside of Nashville, in the suburbs of lots of conservative red, white and blue people, Bible belt conservatives. No one wore a mask. And nobody stayed in their house. And we. It was like there was no Covid. We did anything we wanted. We went. And I heard about LA on TV in New York.

[Adam Carolla]

And yes, all the blue cities punished all their servants because they're all cowards.

[Victoria Jackson]

And all the blue people are moving to the red states now. And in Nashville, we have tons of Californians now.

[Adam Carolla]

I hope they leave their votes.

[Victoria Jackson]

Me too.

[Adam Carolla]

In the hellhole they fled.

[Victoria Jackson]

And my mom died in Covid because we went to my brother's house. It was like 15 minutes from here, 10 minutes from here. And we went there to get his stuff and get the body. And my mom was Old. And she fell in his driveway and had to go to the hospital, and she got Covid in the Glendale hospital and brought it home to all of us. Then she died of COVID pneumonia. So it affected us.

[Adam Carolla]

You had to go to your brother's house and collect the belongings. And the body. Is that the morgue?

[Victoria Jackson]

The police, when they called me, they said, get the body. I'm like, what does that mean? I had to write about it because I had to get the body. I pictured putting a 250 pound brother on my shoulder, getting on the plane and taking it to Tennessee. I didn't know what they were talking about.

[Adam Carolla]

But then once you identify the body.

[Victoria Jackson]

No, they wanted us to go to the morgue and get his wallet and his keys and sign something. And they wouldn't let me look at him. I said, I want to see him one more time. They said, no, you don't want to. Like, he shot himself in the mouth. Yeah. Our family was pretty boring. I thought, wow, we're a boring family. It's like a TV show or something.

[Adam Carolla]

So you really think if Covid hadn't come along and he wasn't locked down,

[Victoria Jackson]

oh, he wouldn't have gotten it?

[Adam Carolla]

Fired from his job? He didn't have any of that sort of. He wasn't a depressed fella and that kind of stuff.

[Victoria Jackson]

He was kind of a loner, but he was very happy because he was engaged. He'd never been married, and his high school sweetheart had just looked him up.

[Adam Carolla]

Really? And then you.

[Victoria Jackson]

I looked up my high school.

[Adam Carolla]

Looked up your high school? My sister is married to her high school sweetheart, except for she ran away and didn't go to high school. But either way, that was the age they were when they met.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

That's crazy.

[Victoria Jackson]

It's like you're fished from the same pond. See the world the same.

[Adam Carolla]

So you after the fire eater, the pilot copy, was it high school sweetheart?

[Victoria Jackson]

I had an engagement ring from him when I was 17, 18.

[Adam Carolla]

And now. How old were you now, when you looked him up?

[Victoria Jackson]

When we got reunited? Because I gave him the ring back a couple of years after that when I looked him up. We hadn't seen each other in 12 years, I think.

[Adam Carolla]

Mm. And he knew you were on snl?

[Victoria Jackson]

Yes. I got famous while I was away from him. And he remembers the first time he saw me on a commercial ride. No lines. And the funny part is the SWAT team was watching Johnny Carson the first time I was on it, and I was 23 and doing a handstand. They're like, they went to work the next day, and the SWAT guys go, hey, see that blonde on TV last night, upside down? And Paul goes, I think I was engaged to her.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow. So what happened with that guy? You tracked him down?

[Victoria Jackson]

I did.

[Adam Carolla]

That was an interesting turn about. Because mostly the person that goes off and becomes a celebrity doesn't do the tracking down.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah. And he didn't have money or anything? No money. He didn't have a house even. Yeah. I don't know.

[Adam Carolla]

You tracked him down. And what'd he say?

[Victoria Jackson]

We talked on the phone for four hours. I said, why did your marriage end? He said, why did your marriage end?

[Adam Carolla]

And then.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah, and then one of us had to give up our house, our career, and our town, and I gave up mine.

[Adam Carolla]

You gave up your town and your career?

[Victoria Jackson]

I had a house in LA and a house in Connecticut, and I had my career. I had a sitcom deal called Victoria, and George Clooney was playing my boyfriend.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, wow.

[Victoria Jackson]

But it never made it. It was a pilot and it never got filmed. We just read it in front of the three networks and they passed on it, but I got a holding fee.

[Adam Carolla]

But you read with Clooney.

[Victoria Jackson]

I read with Clooney, and I got $60,000 to just date the cop.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Victoria Jackson]

And so I was like, I was at the top of my career and I had to choose. That was a really hard choice. Giving up my Laurel Canyon house was very hard.

[Adam Carolla]

So you moved back to Miami, my

[Victoria Jackson]

hometown, where his job was.

[Adam Carolla]

How long did you guys stay married?

[Victoria Jackson]

We're still married. 33 years.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, you're still married?

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh. For some reason, I thought at the

[Victoria Jackson]

beginning, because I said my marriage is so hard.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I figured this one ended.

[Victoria Jackson]

This one's hard, too.

[Adam Carolla]

This one's harder. No, I get it. But I figured 0 for 2. But divorce, not divorced. Still with this guy. And he's retired now?

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah, we're both retired. And he did ask for a divorce two years ago. And then my diagnosis said I was going to die soon, and then he changed his mind. So maybe he's just sticking around because he won't have to split the money in half.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, you mean if you die, he doesn't have to split the money?

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah. Why get divorced if she's going to die soon? Right?

[Adam Carolla]

That's a happy thought.

[Victoria Jackson]

It's flashed across my mind a couple times.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I mean, listen, I'll tell you one thing I've learned. Getting divorced and also seeing the way people operate these days, I don't put anything past anyone when it comes to money ever. And I'm not even talking about bad people or criminals. I'm talking about ex wives, ex cops, taxpayers, law abiding friends. Couple of bucks come into the fic, come into play, and they just turn into something else. It's a completely different thing. It is so sad. You thought there'd be more character and more goodwill and more anything. And it's insane how corruptible and sort of amoral people can be immediately for almost no money. And it's a kind of a thing where I guess when you hear on the real, like the street level of this, like when you look at the guy, look up the story. Andrew of Ray Carruth. Ray Carruth was an NFL wideout, played for the Panthers, and he was a starter and he was a star in the league. And he got his girlfriend pregnant and I guess he didn't want a kid, so he hatched a plan to go out one night and they would take. He would go watch a movie with her and then on the way home he hired a guy to shoot her, to kill her in the car when they like stopped us.

[Victoria Jackson]

It's a true story.

[Adam Carolla]

It's a true story. And the guy he hired was just a dude and he was like, how much? It was like 4,500 bucks. And he was going to snuff out this, I don't know, 23 year old model who's pregnant. So the point is the guy's like, yeah, I'll kill the person that's under 25 who's pregnant for under $5,000. Yeah, sure. Well, that's on the street level. But you go up the food chain and you get to divorce, you get to attorneys and you get to whatever. People just lie their ass off, fucking say anything and do anything for a few bucks. I know, it's so disappointing. It's kind of a sad state of affairs. And it's why we gotta get rid of all these programs. When I go, these people are bilking the system. Everybody will bilk the system if you give them the opportunity to get in on it.

[Victoria Jackson]

The Bible says the heart is deceitful above all things.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. Sherica Adams, she died 28 days later. She was in the hospital, by the way. Are you ready for this, Victoria?

[Victoria Jackson]

What?

[Adam Carolla]

The baby survived, had severe disorders and Ray Carruth got paroled. He got let out of jail and he wants to be with his kid. No, his kid who was in the belly of the kid's mom, who he hired someone to execute.

[Victoria Jackson]

No.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yes.

[Victoria Jackson]

That's the story, letting criminals out. Well, me and my husband rant about liberal stuff all day long.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, I could bet. Helicopter pilot and cop and Miami. Are you kidding? Yeah. The kid has cerebral palsy. Is Ray Carruth with this kid now? Because then people are like, ray Carruth, you cannot be with this kid. And he's like, hey, he's my kid and I'm free. Get out of the way.

[Victoria Jackson]

OJ Went back to his kids, didn't he?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Victoria Jackson]

Hi, dad. Sorry. Why did you murder Mommy?

[Adam Carolla]

The guy who murdered her did it for under five grand. Haruth was convicted of orchestrating the 1999 Murphy hire plot. Claimless life, pregnant girlfriend, Sherica Adams has lived separately from his son, Chancellor, and survived the shooting. Lives in permanent brain damage, cerebral palsy, raised in Charlotte, blah, blah, blah.

[Victoria Jackson]

That's why I love the Bible.

[Adam Carolla]

He was released in 2018, by the way. When Ray Carruth was released, he was probably 40. Like, he wasn't even. Wasn't even old. Maybe he's 43 or something.

[Victoria Jackson]

So I think Spencer Pratt should be the governor instead of Newsom.

[Adam Carolla]

He was released at 44. Listen, I would take a plastic owl that they put up on signs at seafood places to stop seagulls from shitting on the sign over Gavin Newsom. Yeah, that's how I describe him. My mom.

[Victoria Jackson]

Your mom?

[Adam Carolla]

Yep, yep. I know. She stayed alive long enough to vote for him. Yep. She told me that my mom's very progressive. So the guy. The craziest thing in the world. They, like, interviewed the guy from prison who shot Ray Cruz girlfriend, and he's like.

[Victoria Jackson]

The word progressive means communist.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I am with you 1000%. I don't know who these people are. You know what? Now we should play that clip of Mandami that we played earlier with Drew Andrew. Cuz these people are driving me. They're driving me nuts with their love of government. I'm like, all the time, you want more government? I don't get why. Why would you want more of this? I think less of this would be good. Mandami. I want to barf every time this guy speaks into a microphone because he laid out more bullshit the other day, and it was driving me nuts, which is. First things first. How do you stage these things? You go, listen, I can only have miserable women behind me, and they have to be from all different ethnicities. Is that how you give every single speech? To show how inclusive you are with everything all the time? But he's doing a rally because he's gonna have grocery stores in Brooklyn. And he's got a. Here's his speech. Let's just listen to his cute little turn of phrase here. I cannot help but think of the words of our 40th president, Ronald Reagan. He famously said the nine most terrifying words in the English language are, I'm from the government and I'm here to help. It's a good quote, but I disagree. I think nine more terrifying words are actually, I worked all day and can't feed my family. All right, listen, dopey fat hyena cows behind them that just yell all the time, who do you know who works all day and can't feed their family?

[Victoria Jackson]

Nobody.

[Adam Carolla]

There's nobody. There's nobody who works all day and can't feed their family. There's a bunch of fat, lazy, dumb chicks who spend all their money on hair extensions, tattoos and press on nails who may, but they're still fat. So somebody's feeding those bitches who can't feed their fucking family who works all day. You're so full of shit. He's such a lying piece of shit, it's insane. He grew up privileged. He doesn't know what it's like to be poor. I know what it's like to be poor. I grew up with poor people. I worked construction with poor people. Nobody had problems feeding themselves or their family. They worked. Anyone who works can feed their family. Guys are this guy's nuts. He grew up in a pampered, bullshit, elite world and pretends he knows what it's like to be poor. But he's so condescending because he treats poor people like a zookeeper treats animals. You know, like, you need me to save you. I will protect you. It's elitist bullshit. There are people who don't choose to work, and even they are fat. But nobody who works full time has difficulty feeding themselves or their family. Everyone close your eyes. Is there anyone you know who works all day and then can't feed their family?

[Victoria Jackson]

No.

[Adam Carolla]

Half the fucking places you work have food.

[Victoria Jackson]

Did you see the picture of Epstein with Mondami as a child and his mother? They were friends.

[Adam Carolla]

Really.

[Victoria Jackson]

There's a picture of Epstein, Mondame and his mommy. And he was a child and they were hung out together.

[Adam Carolla]

I feel like I'm the only person on the planet that doesn't have a picture of with Epstein. Cause every time they go, only bad people. Only bad people.

[Victoria Jackson]

Except Trump is good Trump.

[Adam Carolla]

Now, is that AI or is that actual pictures?

[Victoria Jackson]

Well, look it up.

[Adam Carolla]

But I now see my screen says that photo's AI, really? Well, that's Andrew. He's very suspicious, okay? I once showed him my yearbook and I showed him my senior picture and he just looked and went, that's AI bro. And he walked away. I was like, but I took that in. 81. No. But isn't it true he talked me out of it.

[Victoria Jackson]

But isn't it true that his mother was an experimental filmmaker?

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Victoria Jackson]

He comes from erotic sexual films.

[Commercial Voice]

That's true.

[Dawson]

Right?

[Adam Carolla]

He comes from rich artists, bullshit people. That's who creates these assholes. And then they start talking. It's really not his fault. It's all the bitches behind him that cheer, yes, I'm from the government, I'd like to help is scary. We need more of that. Not more of your freebie shit with the dumb cackling fat ass crowd behind you cheering on your insanity. And by the way, it's never gonna work. But who, I asked you once again, in our society, who works? Who works consistently, who works diligently, who is dedicated and good at their job and is out sleeping on the streets? Like Gavin Newsom talks about the homeless population, These are mothers of three that have full time jobs getting minimum wage. No, they don't. Let me tell you something, what the Democrats do, they have created some sort of fantasy Hollywood archetype illusion of the people they're talking about who don't exist. Nobody who works all day, can't afford to feed their kids. That person doesn't exist. The homeless person that lives in your retarded head about mother of two, hard working, just divorced, pushed out on the street, forced to live out that human being doesn't exist. These people you create don't exist.

[Victoria Jackson]

Why don't you run for governor against Newsom?

[Adam Carolla]

You know what? Maybe I should. Well, we got Steve Hilton. Steve Hilton is good. Although Phil Merrick Maker Marry Me's mom was mentioned in 09 email within the Department of Justice newly released Jeffrey Epstein files. The email refers to an after party from a film she made.

[Victoria Jackson]

What was the film about?

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know. She's not accused of anything. I guess it's something evil. I'll tell you who didn't know Jeffrey Epstein. My mom and my dad. I'll put it to you that way. Because they were poor and he hung out with rich people who could do stuff for them. All right, wow, Tori, this has been a.

[Victoria Jackson]

My husband's gonna love that last 15 minutes of the show.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I'll tell you what, we'll get him the last 15 of the show, but we'll cut out right before that part where you said he's hoping you die.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yeah. You could maybe cut that out.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, we'll cut that out and then we'll let him enjoy.

[Victoria Jackson]

Or not. I keep saying to him, I keep saying, how come you didn't divorce me now that you know I'm dying?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, but hold on.

[Victoria Jackson]

Maybe it's because he realized what a diamond he had.

[Adam Carolla]

Has.

[Victoria Jackson]

Has.

[Adam Carolla]

And that could be a very noble thing that he's doing.

[Victoria Jackson]

He's being very sweet.

[Adam Carolla]

He's being noble. Let's not ascribe any ill intention to him, okay? Let's look at the best. I'll put it to you this way. My husband wanted a divorce, and then he found out that I had terminal cancer and his instincts kicked in and he immediately threw away the divorce papers and took care of me until my dying days.

[Victoria Jackson]

And took me to Paris and kissed me on top of the Eiffel Tower.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. All the things you deserve.

[Victoria Jackson]

He did do that.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, he did?

[Victoria Jackson]

Well, I twisted his arm, but he did it.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, look, he did it. Listen, women. Women do this. You know, they go. You took. You know, you go, what about that time I took you to Maui? Then they'll go, you didn't want to go to Maui. Good, I should get more credit because I didn't want to go. And we did it. You know what I mean? You hold that against us. I'm saying that's for us. I didn't want to go to Maui. I still took your ass to Maui.

[Victoria Jackson]

Okay, okay.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. The book not dead Yet. A Lifetime Handstands, art and poetry. Victoria, you come back soon and give us a health update.

[Victoria Jackson]

I'm a fan. You're awesome.

[Adam Carolla]

Thank you, my dear. Adam Yenzer's here. We'll do news right after this. Oh, trying to run a small business in this state especially. I mean, it is all the deck is stacked against you. Am I right, Dawson? Absolutely.

[Adam Yenzer]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Adam Yenzer]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Dawson]

Mm.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Adam Yenzer]

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[Victoria Jackson]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Adam Yenzer]

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[Victoria Jackson]

Oh, I had a question and our host replied.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Victoria Jackson]

Wish I had a Premier group chat. They won't even write me back.

[Dawson]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Adam Yenzer]

To check Adam's voicemail.

[Victoria Jackson]

Hey, Adam, this is Emily from Modesto. I had you sign the K Rock calendar at the Modesto show the other night. I just wanted to let you know that the line to meet you. This is the most efficient line I've ever been in. I'd expect nothing less from you. And great show, man. And I look forward to the next time.

[Adam Yenzer]

You can leave us a message at 888-634-1744.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, Mike August takes the camera, takes the Pic And Charles was running down the line selling books and T shirts and. Yeah, man, line efficiency. Line efficiency.

[Adam Yenzer]

Never better reason to get in for the meet and greet.

[Adam Carolla]

The comics that don't do the meet and greet, I'll never understand. I'm not blowing smoke up my own ass. There's nowhere to go except for back to the hotel. And you can make money. You can press the flesh, you can take pictures and you can have people tell you how great they thought you were.

[Dawson]

And I like that wind down time after the show rather than just going back to the hotel. It's nice to talk to people.

[Adam Carolla]

Although to be fair to us, we Cannonball ran it from Modesto back here at by the way, we stopped, like, you can travel and you can use the bathroom, but once you get inside of like LA county line, there's no more bathroom. And we about two and a half hours out, probably about 1:30 in the morning, rolled into a gas station to gas up and we needed to use the bathroom. And I came walking in there and the guy wearing a turban had he just mopped up the bathroom floor actually, and the door was propped open and I just came walking in and I literally walked into the bathroom. And he's like, no, no, no, no, not for you, no, no. And I'm like, I'm standing in the bathroom, my dick is almost out. And he's like, back, no. And I'm like, first off, all we're gonna do is piss outside. There's no other Mike and I just stood in a dirt field and just whizzed out in this guy's dirt field. But the bathroom there has to be. Ah. You know, we have an immigration rule which is basically, if you can get one foot on soil out here in Miami and you're from Cuba, you can stay, you're here. I don't know who invented that rule. It sounds a little fast and loose in terms of immigration, like olliollioxin free or something. But I would argue if I got two feet in the bathroom, I'm in, you can no longer throw me out of this bathroom. I made it in.

[Dawson]

You've got an anchor foot in there now.

[Adam Carolla]

I've got an anchor foot. I'm thinking about having a kid in that bathroom so he gets free healthcare and schooling. I have an anchor foot in there, and by law I should. And also, mathematically, the meter's running on the take a piss.

[Dawson]

It's gonna happen somewhere.

[Adam Carolla]

It's either gonna happen here or it's gonna happen 18 seconds later against the side of the building outside. But it's not happening. There's no version where I go, well, Mike, let's get back in the car and see if we can find another.

[Dawson]

You don't have another half hour of driving.

[Adam Carolla]

There was none. We started the process like in the movie Alien. Once they do the self destruct process, I don't know, no one who ever designed a spaceship went, should we have some sort of emergency off button? Nope. Once they've started the countdown for self destruction, that's it.

[Dawson]

I feel like that was a plot in Star Trek a lot, though, because they could abort it. So they would do the self destruct thing in every episode to build tension, and then they'd always abort it at the last second.

[Adam Carolla]

So, yes, we just pissed outside.

[Dawson]

You could have offered him a meet and greet in the bathroom.

[Adam Carolla]

I should have done it. Yes, we are heroes because we right after the meet and greet, we're having to drive home to Los Angeles.

[Dawson]

Nice.

[Adam Carolla]

Thanks.

[Dawson]

Got some news here. A lot of fires again in California. Satellite images have revealed the scale of two wildfires spreading in Southern California. The Sandy Fire ignited on Monday morning in the city of Simi Valley, northwest of Los Angeles. Satellite images taken just after noon show a large plume of smoke rising into the air just outside the city.

[Adam Carolla]

Fire. You know, like, as an advanced culture and civilization, controlling your environment is like kind of number one. You know, like harnessing the river to turn the turbines to create electricity. You know, you build a dam and then you run it. Threw a turbine and then you get kilowatts and stuff. Fire should be pretty controllable, like storms, tsunamis, I don't know.

[Dawson]

That's more unpredictable.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know who has dominion over a tsunami, and I don't know who has dominion over a tidal wave or hail the size of golf balls. But fire, there's a bunch of stuff you could do. I feel like we should do that. And it's a weird thing, but it's

[Adam Yenzer]

like

[Adam Carolla]

I'm a kind of an opposite argument person. And here's what I'm saying. Karen Bass goes, hey, climate change, man. Come on now. What are you gonna do? And it's like, that's my argument now. Climate change doesn't exist in terms of how it impacts this, but let's just say it does. That means you have to do more. Okay, climate change, good. Now more you should. So you go, I kind of did nothing. But there's nothing we could do because of climate change. I'm arguing you must do More because of climate change. That's your argument?

[Dawson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Also, it's that same. I know you got Keith Ellison and Tim Walls coming up. Yeah. When they make the argument of, you know, somali's ripped off, off to the tune of $10 billion, they go, I didn't know nothing. That's my argument. What's your job? What do you mean you didn't know nothing?

[Dawson]

You're supposed to be on top of that.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. You're like, oh, the pilot? Yeah. You crashed a plane. Well, I don't know how to fly a plane, but that's your job. You saying I don't know about this stuff?

[Dawson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Also in that department, Just because it's on my mind. That bullshit cop, the Capitol policeman, who's like, I thought I was gonna lose my life out there. I got concussed. I got everything else. Then his body cam came out and most of it didn't happen, but he's going, I thought they were gonna take my gun and kill me. I thought they were gonna take my gun and kill me. Yeah, they didn't. Whose argument are you making? They didn't. Well, so they're good fellows like you. Thought doesn't mean shit. They didn't do it.

[Dawson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So I know you thought they're gonna take their gun and kill you. AOC thought she was gonna get raped before they killed her. You both thought a bunch of shit that didn't happen. And that's your indictment. Yeah. Of this group. So you thought they were gonna rape you and you thought they were gonna kill you, but they never ended up doing it. Why is that a mark against them? That's actually plus for them. That would be their argument. We never did it.

[Dawson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You arguing that you thought they were gonna do it, rape you or shoot you just makes you a pussy bitch.

[Dawson]

And it justifies whatever they want to do. Extreme actions after that. Then they can say, oh, I acted out of this.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. So I got picked up by this Uber driver. I thought he wanted to rape me, so I beat him. It's like, yeah, but he didn't do it.

[Dawson]

But I thought he was, but he

[Adam Carolla]

should be in jail for the rest of his life because you fucking took your 10 cent lying head and thought this. All right, sorry, keep reading. Well, and this is how.

[Dawson]

Well, Mary Kiribat. This is how she's taking responsibility. She said, officials don't expect the blaze to spread to the city, but warnings have been issued out of abundance of caution.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, Mayor.

[Dawson]

They're issuing warnings.

[Adam Carolla]

There's an abundance of caution.

[Dawson]

They have an abundance of caution. And fire officials said on Tuesday morning that 750 firefighters were. Were being supported by night flying water, dropping helicopters to target the hot.

[Adam Carolla]

You know what we should do? You know how they unleash goats and sheep and they just eat all the.

[Adam Yenzer]

Yes.

[Dawson]

To graze the brush.

[Adam Carolla]

We should be doing that with prisoners. I mean, they don't have to eat it, but I mean, just get them out there. The weed whacker, man. We got tons and tons of people incarcerated right now. They're costing us 50 grand a year. They're sitting around eating our food. We gave them tablets. They're looking at porn now. Just put them out in the field with a weed whacker and get all this scrub taken down.

[Dawson]

I think you got it solved. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Thank you,

[Dawson]

Eric. We'll go to the Keith Ellison story, since you brought that one up here.

[Adam Carolla]

Good, dude.

[Dawson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Doing the Lord's work, man.

[Dawson]

Where is this?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, he again. So here's about the best in progressive cities. The best argument in progressive cities. The best argument the politicians make is we don't know what the fuck we're doing.

[Dawson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

That's basically their argument. We don't know anything.

[Dawson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

That's not a great argument for you running a city or being an attorney general. Yeah.

[Dawson]

And that's their argument here. There's this case out of Minnesota. In a filing on Monday, prosecutors in Minnesota asked the court to sentence feeding our future ringleader Amy Bach to 50 years in prison. A jury found Bach guilty last year of multiple criminal accounts, including conspiracy to commit wire fraud and conspiracy to commit federal programs. Bribery. Bak orchestrated the largest pandemic fraud case in the country, bilking the government out of tens of millions of dollars meant to feed hungry children.

[Adam Carolla]

Again, if I hear a euphemistic title, I'm out. The Feeding our future. One step forward. First steps, first organic steps. Happy pixie dust. That.

[Dawson]

And then if you oppose it, they can say, oh, you don't want to feed the children.

[Adam Carolla]

You don't want to do this. You're not for care. Care's about feeding.

[Victoria Jackson]

Don't you have empathy?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah, that's great. So I don't want any of that. And I no longer trust anybody who talks about standing up for little people and fighting against in the future. And any happy talk, any happy titles, I'm immediately suspicious and against.

[Dawson]

Yeah. And here is Amy Bach on an interview on Fox News saying that Keith Ellison and some of the other people in Minnesota government probably had to know about this fraud alert.

[Commercial Voice]

Also In Minnesota, the convicted ringleader of one of the state's biggest fraud schemes is speaking to Fox News from behind bars. Now, she believes that the scam was no surprise to local Democratic leaders, and she's naming names. She spoke to Alexis McAdams. Hi, Alexis. Hey, Dana. Yeah, so everywhere you look in the state of Minnesota, right, there seems to be another fraud scam. So this one involves Amy Bach. She's a Minnesota woman convicted of fraud for taking taxpayer money that was meant to feed hungry kids. But listen to this. Bock tells me the real issue here is the state of Minnesota, which she says kept giving scammers your taxpayer money even after they were flagged as fraudsters.

[Adam Carolla]

I have to believe that the governor's office and Keith Ellison's office were aware of this. They've said they were involved in helping the FBI.

[Victoria Jackson]

They've said they were made aware, but apparently I'm scary. So they couldn't do anything.

[Commercial Voice]

So Bach ran this nonprofit called Feeding Our Future. You might have heard of it. It was one of dozens of convicted in this $250 million scam. You can see her mug shot there. Prosecutors say this group set up sham restaurants. They pretended they were making these meals. They got paid by the state for those meals, but they just pocketed the cash. Bach, who's looking at 30 years behind bars, tells me the state signed off on those businesses, not her.

[Victoria Jackson]

It all went through a process.

[Adam Carolla]

They were all approved. They were all paid by the state.

[Victoria Jackson]

Yet all the fingers are being pointed at me.

[Commercial Voice]

And it's not just Bach. Whistleblowers told a congressional committee. Minnesota Governor Tim Walls and Attorney General Keith Ellison there ignored warnings for years as millions of dollars and millions were stolen on their watch. Congress is investigating a long list of massive fraud schemes in the state. It's hard to keep up. Prosecutors say it's led to at least $9 billion in fraud. Dana, and counting. Congress also asking why the attorney general there would meet with a group of Somali fraudsters which were under FBI investigation in 2021. The group can be heard in an audio clip given to us by box lawyer, offering to donate to his campaign if he can help them get their funding flowing again. Ellison denies any wrongdoing here. He slammed Bach in a statement to Fox calling her a liar and manipulator, adding, now she's on a media tour to deflect her guilt onto others instead of finally taking responsibility for this fraud scheme that she ran. So we reached out to Governor Wallace, too, Dana. He didn't get back to us. House Republicans say it's just getting started. They want to subpoena Walls and Ellison because they say they're responsible for ripping off American taxpayers.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, here's the deal. There's always going to be people trying to run scams and fraud. That's why we have an attorney general. And they go, yeah, don't trust her. She's a liar and she steals stuff. Yeah, yeah. And then you're supposed to be the firewall in between people doing this and getting away with it to the tune of millions and at some point, billions of dollars. So basically, it's my stupider liar thing that it all comes back to stupider liar. So it'd be like me going, I'm a structural engineer, and I'm an inspector for the city and I inspect commercial structures. And they go, well, five bridges collapsed under your watch. And I'd go, hey, I looked at those bridges. It's like, well, wait, did you get paid off to sign off on those bridges? That's what this. Absolutely not. That foreman's a liar. I looked at those bridges.

[Dawson]

It's like, did that foreman give you money for your campaign?

[Adam Carolla]

A little bit, but I still did my job. It's like either you took money and looked the other way, or you just. It's a dereliction of duty. It's a fiduciary duty. You didn't do your job. Either way, you gotta go. And by the way, if you're a bus driver and turns out you were texting while you're driving and three kids are dead, guess who's in trouble? Yeah. You go, hey, man, that guy cut in front of me. Or, I wasn't drunk. It's like, this is your job. You didn't do it, and you're now liable.

[Dawson]

And it seems like it would take such a minimum amount of oversight and investigate. It's like they set up fake restaurants and with the daycare. So it's like they've set up fake day. You check on them once and you could catch this fraud.

[Adam Carolla]

You could take the guy who dropped off your grubhub. You could tell the swing by the Feeding the Future place and see if there's anybody there. And just. I'll give you a tip if you call me and tell me no one's in, or take a picture and send it. You know how you took a picture of my food when you dropped it off? Take a picture of the Feeding the Future center and see if there's anybody in there. Yeah. Yes. It's very, very doable. But again, Whether it's Karen Bass making the argument about climate change or Keith Ellison going, I never knew about nothing. Well, you're the attorney general for the state. Why don't you know about things?

[Dawson]

Yeah, well, and it's always interesting how the media tries to twist these things. This was the article about the Feeding Our future scam from cbs. And I love this paragraph. They have, they have the Feeding our future scam.

[Adam Carolla]

And by the way, it's a Somali group and you hung out and you want their, you don't want to offend your constituency. And they understand that people are going to get called racist if they look into them. And that's how they do it. And that's what they're doing.

[Dawson]

Yeah. They said. It ignited a firestorm of fraud around Minnesota, prompting multiple audits and investigations, eventually leading Governor Tim Walz dropping his bid for a third term amid repeated attacks from Republicans. President Trump have used the controversy as justification for racist attacks on the Somali community and the surge of federal agents in Minnesota, which resulted in the killings of Renee Good and Alex Preddy. Oh, perfect.

[Adam Carolla]

Serious.

[Dawson]

So they're investigating this food thing. That's why Renee Goode.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. Trump. It's always Republicans pounce.

[Dawson]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

So it's Democrats fuck something up and steal a bunch of money. But the headline on CNN is Republicans pounce. They're just pointing out the illegal shit the Democrats did.

[Dawson]

Yes, they blame them for the reaction.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Dawson]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Dawson]

The truth isn't.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Dawson]

Mark Cuban, former Trump critic, has been forced to play nice with President Trump after agreeing to be business partners. Billionaire Mark Cuban stood on the White House stage Monday alongside the man he spent the last year trying to keep out of the Oval Office. The former Shark Tank star and outspoken Kamala Harris surrogate appeared beside President Trump during the rollout of TrumpRx.gov, which is a new initiative aimed at lowering the cost of 600 generic prescription drugs.

[Adam Carolla]

I will say this. I get why you may not like Trump. I don't get why you like Kamala Harris. Oh, 100% now, unless your only argument is I hate Trump so much, I want the ops of the Chupacabra was running against Trump, I would vote for the Chupacabra, in which case I will accept that. But what I won't accept by anyone has two brain cells to rub together is Kamala Harris is gonna be good for this country. Cuz she's the dumbest.

[Dawson]

There was something. She couldn't form a complete sentence.

[Adam Carolla]

She waffled on everything, why people couldn't see that and have two things be true at once. You know, like I hate Trump and she's an unmitigated shit show who can't form a sentence. Yeah, that could have been. I would accept those. Not I'm all in with Kamala.

[Dawson]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

That's insane to me. Yeah. All right. And it means probably intellectually you're dishonest.

[Adam Yenzer]

Well.

[Dawson]

And do you think some people going to like the virtue signaling and the empathy talk and the environment stuff? I feel like a lot of people have just latched onto this narrative that Republicans are evil and Democrats are good and I'm gonna vote for the good guys.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I'm a good person. Vote for good people. All right, Cuban president, It's pretty remarkable

[Dawson]

seeing you and Mark Cuban up there

[Adam Yenzer]

and the fact that obviously Mark endorsed Kamala Harris back in 2020.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, he made a mistake. It was a big mistake.

[Dawson]

What does this say about what you

[Victoria Jackson]

two are building here?

[Adam Yenzer]

Well, it says we love people, we love our country.

[Adam Carolla]

He wants to. He's got a good company and he's going to do a lot of business with this and I'm going to get drugs out through Amazon, through President. Yeah, I just. I love that Trump's always trying to cut a deal and his plan. It's always weird, too, when people go like, you know, they go, what's Trump doing? He's doing nothing. He's just bought another golden toilet seat for one of his rich buddies. He does nothing. And I'm like, I don't know. It seems like he's trying to do shit all the time. I don't know what Biden was trying to do is my question.

[Dawson]

Biden would disappear for months at a

[Adam Carolla]

time, and then when he came back, the black, brown and disabled people in the communities of color and the disabled community.

[Dawson]

And I like ice cream.

[Adam Carolla]

And I like ice cream. Then he's like, leave again. What do you mean? What's he up to? Yeah, Biden's up to nothing. I don't even know what Biden. I don't know if Biden knew what he was up to. Yeah. All right. This is Cuban, by the way. Sorry. Yeah. Yep.

[Adam Yenzer]

Mr. President, I think other than you, I've been the biggest proponent of TrumpRx.com and the reason for that is Republicans want cheaper drugs, Independents want cheaper drugs, Democrats want cheaper drugs, and together, I think we're going to do something special. What makes Cost Plus Drugs different is that when you click through TrumpRx to our site, not only will you see a great price, but you'll see our actual cost and that we only mark it up 15%. And what makes this incredible, Mr. President, all the volume and all the people that are going to come from the site, as our volumes go up, our costs go down, which means we'll be ending up charging less to people over a period of time. So this is a special announcement. This is.

[Adam Carolla]

Cuban's a nice guy. I know him a little bit. It's weird. And there's a few of these people I should think of. Who else? He is one of the few people that can have incredibly smart thoughts and incredibly dumb thoughts simultaneously, which. I don't know. A lot of those people, they're out there. Most people are sort of blanket dumb or blanket smart. He can have really smart thoughts and really dumb thoughts, which is. Oh, we have Mark Cuban. We have this.

[Dawson]

Oh, this is where he predicted.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah. He predicted before Trump's first election that the stock market was going to crash if he got elected. I think that's what it is, mayhem.

[Adam Yenzer]

But I said that would definitely fall. Yes, and for two reasons. I mean, you saw when the comey emails came out. We saw what the market did. And so there's Trump's temperament, which I think is a significant issue for the market. Market. Whenever you have a. I would handicap. If Trump wins, I would handicap the likelihood that the probability that he would say something stupid and offensive during a four year term, multiple times at 100%. And if he's going to say things that are stupid and offensive that could lead to some sort of military action, not originating from the United States, but from, you know, another country, that is the worst thing possible for the stock market and that uncertainty, because you have a candidate that doesn't know when not to talk.

[Adam Carolla]

There isn't anything when not to talk, Mark. Just keep going. Being wrong about everything. All right, he's fucking wrong. None of that happened. But anyway, that's dumb. This is smart. He's got both in his head. I will tell you this. If you just blindly hate another candidate, it will make you say dumb things. Yeah. The people with the Trump derangement syndrome sound dumb. The ladies from the View sound dumb every single day because of their blind hatred. Yeah. If you don't have blind hatred, then you won't sound dumb because the blind hatred forces you to say dumb things.

[Dawson]

Well, and what I think is admirable about this thing with Mark Cuban is, you see, even though he's more on the left and Trump's more on the right, they're businessmen and they want to make a deal and they want to work on something together and move forward.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Dawson]

Which that's what's weird about the Trump derangement. Especially with some of the politicians like Tim Walls or Newsom here in California, it's like whether you hate the guy or not, he's the president now and that's who you have to work with and make deals with. And they just want to keep antagonizing and condemning him and picking fights rather than just doing something constructive together and working with what's there.

[Adam Carolla]

The notion that many politicians in California at all different levels, not just governor, but the mayor and senators and everyone, city council and stuff, they're campaigning on I'm gonna fight Trump and abolish ice. Like, they're literally in the business where they used to tell you what they were gonna do, now they're telling you what's not gonna happen.

[Dawson]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

And I'm not interested in what not going to happen. I didn't ask who you're pissed off at. I wouldn't. I want to know more about bridges and roads and airports and schools and trains and stuff like that. Not who you're angry at. Yeah. By the way. Yes, you can like me saying like you like me. I'll do battle with my ex wife. Okay. Yeah, that's sweet. I'm sure she's a bitch. But how's that really affect my kids school system? Yeah, they think California voters are so dopey that they think they can get elected screaming that they're gonna fight Ice.

[Dawson]

I know, it's insane.

[Adam Carolla]

It is kind of insane. Yes. Oh, speaking of that, there's Weiner, right?

[Dawson]

Oh, yes, we got Weiner. He's a real insane one here. He at a campaign event here, Scott Wiener featured drag queens, including one mocking women while dressed as a pig, singing. Weiner is a girl's best friend in front of kids. He has little girls behind him.

[Adam Carolla]

What is Wieners title? See a California.

[Dawson]

He's running for Congress, by the way.

[Adam Carolla]

Does everything he does need to be gay? I've said it many times. I'm Italian. Yeah. If I just like, was a politician, I just dressed like a gondolier. And then people come in like, oh, you caught me eating spaghetti and meatballs. You know, Liberace, he's Italian and Ferrari is Italian. And like at some point someone goes, there's people sleeping all over the street. Hold on. Would you like a slice of pizza? You know, that originally comes from a small town in Italy. Like, it's like, yes, we get it, we get it. Now we would elect you to do things that weren't gay. Yeah, the other stuff. Oh, I'm gonna film myself. I'm gonna go into a Pete's Coffee over here. Cause I had the Italian flag and the Ferrari banner hanging out front and these guys took it down. So I put an Alfa Romeo banner up. And now I'm gonna film myself yelling at employees. And it's like, like, how about you fucking deal with the homeless problem? Yeah. Yes, you're gay. Yes. Yes. Wiener, you suck a country mile of cock. That's your prerogative. We don't care. But everything doesn't have to be trans and gay. But here we are.

[Dawson]

But every clip of him is. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. Everyone. Describe this piece of work that is singing right now.

[Dawson]

Oh man. It's clearly a man with clown makeup

[Adam Carolla]

and a pig nose negligee.

[Dawson]

A negligee with weird pink panties and then cartoonish pink hair.

[Adam Carolla]

If I was a kid, I'd be completely freaked out by this nut job.

[Dawson]

I'd be scared of clowns, pigs, men and women.

[Adam Carolla]

After watching, I could no longer watch anything on tv. And there's a poor Little girl standing there, and by the way, she's sack height, you know what I mean? That guy's got a nut sack hanging halfway out of that thing.

[Dawson]

And she has a hot dog. The little girl, are they going, leaning into the whole wiener theme and there's that creep clapping for the whole thing.

[Adam Carolla]

How so weird. Like, doesn't anybody have any optics in their head? Like where you just like, don't you have a campaign manager that goes, look, you get torn apart with all the LGBT and all the trans stuff, and the trans stuff is not polling that well. People don't want boys competing in girls sports, so why don't you just fucking lay low a little? Let's get you a suit. Nice botany 500 thing, look kind of 70s, you know, and let's go ahead and just pretend like you're not completely obsessed with all things trans and all things gay, because I did some polling and it turns out way less than 10% of the people that vote are trans or gay. So why don't you just. Why don't you just pretend for a second like you care about the school system? And you'd go, what's that got to do with chuggin cock? And be like, that's what I'm saying, it doesn't. But you have to pretend. Well, you know, I'm gonna have Mr. Piggy come up here and sing my weird wiener song while his nutsack hangs out of his tutu. And the managers kind of go, let's not, let's just not do that. Let's pretend. Here's your job. If you are running for anything in San Francisco or LA or California, we know your full blown whack a doodle nut job with horrible ideas. But you gotta pretend to be normal for a small period of time and then you get voted in. And then you can start with all your nut job wackadoodle shit that ruins the state you're governing over. Okay? Is that a fair thing? Remember Kamala Harris? She wanted to get prisoners, illegal prisoners, transed while they were inside prison. They want us to pay for the operation. Remember that? And then she said, nope, not for that anymore. Know why she said that? Because she wanted to get elected by normal people. Once she gets elected, she can go back to cutting off the wieners of illegals in prison on the taxpayers dime. Yeah, and she said she was gonna end fracking, but then she changed her mind. But did she change her mind or did she pretend to be normal so she could get voted in and then she could go back to this. Yeah. So, Scott, can you pretend to be normal for 10 seconds?

[Dawson]

And the optics are so strange. Like you said, the whole LGBTQ thing. There's people that literally think they're just perverts and that it's demonic, and then they do something like that, and that just looks like it's a demonic pervert. It looks like a pagan sex festival in front of children.

[Adam Carolla]

We gotta heal our tarnished image. So let's get Divine to tuck his junk between his legs and then read books to those children over there. Like, no.

[Dawson]

Release that as our campaign.

[Adam Carolla]

Which always leads me to this conclusion, which is they don't want equality. They don't want fairness. They don't want equal rights. They want to agitate. All they. Everything they do is to agitate and provoke, and then they get to become a victim.

[Dawson]

And they want you to have to celebrate it. And.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. But when you don't celebrate it, then they claim their victims, and it's all about circling back to victimhood.

[Dawson]

I'm guessing you're genociding them and denying their right to exist. If you don't go to the Pig Drag Queen show.

[Adam Carolla]

I think a lot of them were molested, and that's part of the problem with the repeated victimhood. Here's. Here's Weiner of Shirley. Well, this is great, Nick. Shirley wants to ask him a couple questions on AB 2624. I think you're a psycho scam artist, so please disclose how you think that he's a scam. By the way, how do you become a scam artist if you're exposing other people's scams? And a psycho too, because you don't have enough trannies around you.

[Dawson]

And to Scott, Wieners voice is even creepy. He sounds like the psycho in that. Everything about him is a stereotype of a San Francisco gay person.

[Adam Carolla]

He's the poster child for what's wrong with California. Yeah, that's it.

[Dawson]

All right, we got one more fire story. In the Channel Islands, the largest fire ever recorded is burning on Santa Rosa island, endangering a gem of the California coast. A wildfire was sparked by the flare of a shipwrecked mariner. It's burned nearly a fifth of Santa Rosa Island.

[Adam Carolla]

Hold on. Is it 1874? What? A shipwrecked.

[Dawson]

A shipwrecked mariner Fired up sea with the salty air in his beard.

[Adam Carolla]

Just a shipwrecked mariner.

[Dawson]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, I need to know more. I'm not buying this.

[Adam Yenzer]

A new illegal alien code.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, we're talking they're hiding the demographic. Messed up homeless guy.

[Dawson]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, he's somebody who had worked

[Dawson]

all day and can't afford to support.

[Adam Carolla]

Can't afford to buy flares.

[Dawson]

I can't afford to buy a non flammable boat.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, here's what I'd say. He was on the island and he was doing something on the island, working on the island, and something happened. He was left behind or something like that. And he fired the flare gun. He wasn't a shipwrecked. He couldn't have been.

[Dawson]

It's a shipwrecked mariner.

[Adam Carolla]

It's him.

[Dawson]

It's the old man in the sea.

[Adam Carolla]

I think it's impossible that he was shipwrecked. He was standing on the island when he fired the gun. Agree or disagree? Do you think he. Yeah, and I don't think he swam in there. What happened now? Maybe he fell off a Disney cruise.

[Dawson]

It says it was sparked by. Inadvertently sparked by a man who crashed his sailboat into rocks on the island's south side and then fired emergency flares to signal help. So he did fire the flares.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, so he crashed his sailboat into the isle.

[Dawson]

It doesn't say whether the flares or the crash are what sparked the fire itself, but it's more likely the flares. Then a wind powered sailboat just strikes.

[Adam Carolla]

No, no, that flare went up in the air and landed on all that kindling and set the place. It's gotta be a weird. He's gotta feel dumb.

[Dawson]

He's like, how can I get rescued? I'll set the whole island on fire and they'll find me.

[Adam Carolla]

Also, it's gotta be one of those great stories where his wife has a few glasses of wine. You gotta hear what Harry did. What'd he do, crash his sailboat again? Oh, no, it's so much better. It's so much better. He set an entire island on fire. As a matter of fact, I don't know. He may have started that whole Maui thing too. We don't know where he was that day.

[Dawson]

It was the island full of endangered species. Species and plants. He may have wiped some animals to extinction in his little mistake.

[Adam Carolla]

Yep. He took out all the polar bears. Wow. That's crazy. I mean, I guess an island fire can only go so far, but I don't know. I just feel like there's too many fires in this modern era and we should try to control that, you know, like basically we invented air conditioning and now there's Las Vegas. Man is pretty miraculous when he sets his mind to it. We should figure out a way. Like we go, you know, you're living in fire country. I know. And if you lived in Vegas, you were living in can't go outdoors nine months a year country. But now we can. Now it's big and bustling and beautiful. Yeah.

[Dawson]

And like you were saying earlier about kind of mastering the environment and being prepared for this stuff. I don't know all the practicalities of it, but it seems ironic to an island is surrounded by water. There's no shortage of ways to put the fire out fairly quickly there. It seems like they'd be.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. 80 miles away. It's the Channel Islands and it's off of, I don't know, Ventura.

[Dawson]

Yeah. You leave out of Ventura harbor to go out there.

[Adam Carolla]

People go diving out there.

[Dawson]

Yeah. And kayaking. And that's why they're worried about is it. Is it is an island where there are a lot of endemic species that don't live anywhere else. There's a pine tree and a fox that only exists there. So they're worried about that stuff.

[Adam Carolla]

That pine tree is going to be missed.

[Dawson]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. This Sunday, Costa Mesa, Westwood coast. Doing a couple of shows there Sunday. Then Oklahoma city on the 12th and then Tulsa on the 13th and then Santa Ana, Jordan family class cars. We're going to screen the KROC dock there. Come on out. You got crawler.com. you'll see all the live shows all over the place. What do you got, Adam?

[Dawson]

I got May 29th and 30th in Kenosha, Wisconsin at the Kenosha Comedy Club. And then June 20th, I'll be at Queen City Tavern in Scranton, Pennsylvania.

[Adam Carolla]

On the road, man, Victoria Jackson not dead yet. Name of the book, get it as we speak. Amazon and beyond. Until next time, the sound for Victoria and the other Adam. Sam, mahalo.

[Adam Yenzer]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Dawson]

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