Fran Tarkenton Spills Shocking NFL Secrets: From Beating Peyton Manning’s Record to Firing His Own Coach!

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Adam Carolla Show

Episode Title: Fran Tarkenton Spills Shocking NFL Secrets: From Beating Peyton Manning’s Record to Firing His Own Coach!
Release Date: December 1, 2025
Host: Adam Carolla
Guest: Fran Tarkenton (NFL Hall of Fame QB)
Studio Newsman: Mike Dawson

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Episode Overview

In this wide-ranging episode, Adam Carolla sits down with legendary NFL quarterback Fran Tarkenton for an unfiltered conversation about football’s past and present, how the NFL has changed, iconic moments, and career secrets—including firing his own coach and the shock of being one of the few quarterbacks ever ejected from an NFL game. Adam and co-host Mike Dawson also riff on current NFL culture, halftime shows, modern pop icons, celebrity controversies, and the evolution of American sports. The conversation swings from locker room stories to philosophical takes on discipline, media bias, and American culture. Football fans and pop culture enthusiasts alike will find plenty to chew on.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The NFL’s Weird Penalty Celebrations

[02:19 – 08:50]

• Adam opens with a comedic breakdown of the performative way teams react to minor infractions (false starts, offsides), likening 320 lb. linemen to “schoolgirls tattletaling.”
• He criticizes the over-celebratory reactions to five-yard penalties:

  “They become nine-year-old black girls from the 70s... act like you’ve been there before!” (Adam Carolla, 03:57)

• The group agrees that these antics are often out of proportion and mimic a “schoolyard point-and-tattle” dynamic.

2. Jack White, Radiohead Syndrome, and Stadium Anthems

[08:22 – 13:24]

• Adam muses on the peculiar fame of Jack White, comparing him to Radiohead as an artist you “have to like” to keep your music cred, even if most people know just one song.

• “If Jack White didn't have ‘Bum bum bum bum bum’ [‘Seven Nation Army’], would anybody have heard of him?” (Adam Carolla, 13:03)

• Mike Dawson notes the pervasiveness of "Seven Nation Army" as today's dominant stadium anthem, likely outselling even classic sports themes in mailbox money.

3. Modern Celebrity Posture and ‘Feet on the Sofa Theory’

[13:38 – 21:21]

• Adam rants about younger celebrities on late-night TV displaying entitlement through body language (feet up on couches).
• He views this as a marker of never having been disciplined and links the “no shame” posture to unchecked privilege:

  “When I see a 25 year old person with feet on the sofa, I see a kid who was never disciplined.” (Adam, 16:34)

• He humorously notes that the posture also “signals you’re not fat—fat chicks can’t do that.” (19:11)

4. News Segment: Vaccine Scandals and COVID Narratives

[22:09 – 26:59]

• Dawson drops a controversial memo about child COVID vaccine deaths in the FDA. Adam riffs on media manipulation, parent fears, and the efficacy of experts and public health messaging:

  “That’s where we got. And that’s why dumb moms got the kids vaccinated—and it was totally unnecessary for them.” (Adam, 22:29)

• Adam and Dawson critique what they see as media bias, especially around vaccine skepticism and “anti-vax” labels.

5. Language Police and the ‘Retard’ Debate

[27:09 – 29:16]

• Adam takes pride in rebelling against the anti-"retard movement," standing by the word as a necessary term in his comedic arsenal.

  “I stood my retard ground, and we’re all better for it.” (28:28)

• The show highlights blowback against public figures (like Trump) for using controversial language, debating the power of outrage and political correctness.

6. Social Media, Media Bias, and Public Figures

[36:24 – 45:18]

• News topics wander to social media-driven culture wars: Michelle Obama’s alleged Ozempic use, body image, and the constant spin of media “speculation.” Adam expresses skepticism about media objectivity, branding, and coverage of high-profile women:

  “By nature, [speculation] is unfounded. It’s called speculation!” (43:59)

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Main Interview: Fran Tarkenton Joins Adam Carolla

7. Tarkenton’s Place in Football History

[49:02 – 56:09]

• Fran describes setting every major NFL QB record (passing and running), only to see Peyton Manning break them in fewer years.
• He reminisces about memorable records in other sports and delineates what makes some records unbeatable.

  “I set every passing record in my 18 years...My records stood for 19 years. Peyton’s stood for three.” (Fran, 49:32)

8. The Original Scrambler – Quarterback Play Evolution

[54:04 – 55:04]

• Fran details how he pioneered quarterback mobility, scrambling at all levels before it was common.
• He claims modern QBs (Mahomes et al.) owe their dual-threat capability to that precedent, but notes their scrambling is more controlled compared to his “running for survival.”

  “I didn’t even know it was unusual to scramble. I just did it.” (Fran, 52:19)

9. Inside Stories: Monday Night Football, Howard Cosell, and Dandy Don

[55:27 – 58:06]

• Fran offers personal color on TV legends Cosell and Meredith. Despite Cosell’s limited football knowledge, he “made” MNF entertaining.
• The show contrasts today’s buttoned-up broadcasts with the charismatic, freewheeling 1970s.

10. Records, Super Bowls, and Lessons from Losing

[59:19 – 61:37]

• Adam recounts the overlap of major football milestones, including the day O.J. Simpson broke 2,000 yards and Fran surpassed Johnny Unitas.
• Fran opens up about never having proper preparation for Super Bowls and shares lessons from losing three (“We didn’t know how to practice for the Super Bowl...we weren’t prepared.” [62:54–64:06]).

11. Calling Your Own Plays and Leading a Team

[65:03 – 66:43]

• Tarkenton underscores how he led as a QB by calling his own plays, installing offenses, and relying on teammates’ input—a sharp contrast to today’s coach-driven, headset-fueled playcalling.

12. NFL Parity, Franchise Structures, and Team Ownership

[66:43 – 69:23]

• They analyze how shared TV revenue has led to more competitive balance in the NFL compared to sports like baseball.

13. Firing His Own Coach: The Real Story

[72:32 – 77:55]

• Fran tells the candid, rarely-heard story of essentially forcing out Norm Van Brocklin (his head coach) after a hostile working relationship:

  “I’m not going to have his blood on my body, I’m not going to stay here and play...and they traded me to the New York Giants.” (Fran, 73:24)

• He outlines his journey: Vikings → Giants → Vikings, and how he engineered his destiny.

14. NFL Money: Player Salaries Then & Now

[78:03 – 82:55]

• Fran reveals he made only $12.5K his rookie year, with his highest salary—after every record—topping out at $180,000 in 1978.
• He held off-season jobs to make ends meet & underscores the difference to today’s NFL megasalaries:

  “I was the highest-paid player...I made $180,000.” (Fran, 79:18) “None of us made any money...we just worked. There was no money around back then.” (Fran, 82:54)

15. Early Business Career and Entrepreneurial Lessons

[82:56 – 88:36]

• Fran credits his off-seasons working for businesses and starting companies early as the true “secret” to his post-NFL success.
• He observes: “Things in life, like football, business, you only learn from doing.”

16. Media Work: “That’s Incredible!” & Early Tiger Woods

[84:38 – 88:36]

• Fran discusses hosting ABC’s “That’s Incredible!” and the thrill of featuring a five-year-old Tiger Woods on TV:

  “If you’re going to be anything in life, start early. I had a paper route at age 7, and I never stopped working.” (Fran, 90:00+)

17. Physical Toll of Football & Longevity

[92:28 – 94:47]

• Tarkenton discusses his shoulder injuries, playing through pain, and the remarkable fact he only missed five games in his entire pro and college career.

18. Brawls, Trash Talk, and Pioneering the Ejection of a QB

[99:25 – 106:59]

• Fran tells the wild story of being ejected from a game for throwing a ball at a Patriots defender after a late hit in the endzone:

  “I was the first—one of only two—quarterbacks to get thrown out of a game.” (102:30)
  “I played with passion every day.” (102:30)

• The only other ejected NFL QB? Trent Dilfer—not Peyton Manning, not Tom Brady.

19. On Legendary Players and Coaches

[108:35 – 113:09]

• Colorful war stories involving NFL legends: Mean Joe Greene (“he was the catalyst”), Jack Youngblood, and the entire 1970s Steelers defense.
• Bud Grant: “I learned more from [him] than from anybody…Every time he opened his mouth, it made sense…he was the smartest human I ever knew.” (111:46)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On NFL penalty celebrations:

  “It’s five yards. Relax, act like you’ve been there before, and it’s a done thing.” – Adam Carolla [07:50]

• On sports media icons:

  “He [Cosell] was an entertainer…he couldn’t have been a coach or a player, but he brought something that made Monday Night Football great, and set the standard.” – Fran Tarkenton [56:09]

• On calling and installing his own plays (vs. today):

  “I had to know more… today they got ear things, and the coach up in the box calls the plays. That didn’t happen. I put the offense in, not the offensive coach.” – Fran Tarkenton [66:25]

• On surviving the NFL pre-safety rules:

  “We had no protection… I played 18 years of pro football, missed five games… Now, I have an artificial shoulder.” – Fran Tarkenton [105:07]

• On quarterback ejections:

  “There’s only been two quarterbacks in the history of football that got thrown out—me, and Trent Dilfer.” – Fran [102:30]

• On old-school football aesthetics:

  “We’re never gonna have that NFL iconic steam coming out of the mouth, dirt on the knuckles game. It’s all AstroTurf and cleaned up.” – Adam [97:46]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• NFL penalty celebration rant: 02:19–08:50
• Jack White/Radiohead pop culture segment: 08:22–13:24
• ‘Feet on the sofa’ theory: 13:38–21:21
• COVID/vaccine news segment: 22:09–26:59
• Language police and ‘Retard’ word debate: 27:09–29:16
• Michelle Obama/Ozempic/media speculation: 36:24–45:18
• Fran Tarkenton interview begins: 49:02
• Scrambling QB and NFL records: 52:00–56:09
• Monday Night Football legends: 55:27–58:06
• Super Bowl prep and losing lessons: 62:54–64:06
• On team parity and NFL finances: 66:43–69:23
• Firing Van Brocklin and Giants trade: 72:32–77:55
• NFL salaries and second jobs: 78:03–82:55
• Tiger Woods childhood video (That’s Incredible!): 86:14–88:36
• QB ejection and Patriots brawl story: 102:30–106:59
• Bud Grant and Steelers discussion: 111:46–113:09

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Takeaway

This episode runs the gamut from football nostalgia and hard-won wisdom to sharp cultural commentary and moments of comedic relief. Fran Tarkenton proves to be not only a trailblazing athlete but also a thoughtful businessman and storyteller, reflecting honestly on a game—and an America—that has changed more than most fans realize. Adam, as always, brings irreverent wit and cynical optimism, making this episode a must-listen for fans of NFL lore, pop culture, and unfiltered conversation.

Transcript

[Adam Carolla]

Well, in this episode, we'll do the news with Dawson and a hall of famer, 18 years in the NFL starting as a quarterback, Sir Francis of Tarkington, Fran Tarkington is going to join me as well, and we'll do that right after this. Hey, it's Adam Carolla from the Adam Carolla Show. Football season is heating up. Thanksgiving weekend is coming up. With the NBA and college basketball seasons, they're off to a running start. There's no better place to get in on all the action then Betonline, your number one source for all things sports and casino. Betonline gives you more ways to play with the latest odds, breaking news, live scores and in game betting so you never miss a moment. From every NFL and college matchup to NBA and college tip offs excitement, man, UFC fights and NHL futures, BETOnline keeps you locked into the action all year long. And when it's time to switch gears, dive into Betonline casino, packed with hundreds of the hottest slots, classic table games, live dealers and massive jackpots waiting to be hit. Plus, don't forget the VIP program with exclusive level up bonuses, weekly cash boosts and rewards designed for serious players. Head to Betonline today because at betonline, the game starts here. This episode of the Adam Carolla show is brought to you by Simplisafe.

[Mike Dawson]

From Corolla One studios in Glendale, California. This is the Adam Carolla Show. Adam's guest today, NFL hall of Famer Fran Tarkington. Plus the news with me, Mike Dawson. And now, earlier today, he went to the mall, sat on Santa's lap and asked for a new governor, Adam Carolla.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, Dawson's here. We got news. I got stuff I want to get into a little bit with you, Dawson, before we get into the news. Good one is, it's funny. You watch things for years and years and decades and you don't think about it, then one day it just pops in your head and you're thinking about something you never really thought about before, even though it's a thing you've seen a million times. And I was watching a lot of football over the, over the weekend and Thanksgiving and all that, and I think it was maybe the Detroit game. It was one of the games, it didn't matter. But the other team, you know, the coach, the quarterback went in with the hard count and one of his offensive linemen like, lurched forward, right? And it was a five yard penalty. And the other team is so over the moon about it and make such a big deal out of it. But let's really examine it. First things first, it's five yards. It's the minimum amount they can give you.

[Mike Dawson]

Right?

[Adam Carolla]

It's minimum. It doesn't matter if it's the second quarter and your team's down 34 points, they still make a big deal out of it. And all of a sudden instead of 300 pound dudes who can do £800 on a hack slide, they become schoolgirls.

[Fran Tarkington]

They're like.

[Adam Carolla]

They'Re like point real it. He did it. He did it. It's like, it's like a schoolyard.

[Mike Dawson]

They turn into tattletales.

[Adam Carolla]

He's in trouble. Trouble.

[Mike Dawson]

And it's like, okay, I'm gonna tell mom.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm telling mom. Yeah, it's like D from what's happening and whatever her name was, Roger, you in trouble. Like they become nine year old black girls from the 70s and okay, let's really break it down. First off, it's not changing the game. Half the time it was like on a field goal. So now Instead of a 29 yarder, it's a 34 yard chip shot. Like it's not changing the complexion of the game. I get it. When there's a couple ticks on the clock and they're out of field goal range and it's 4th and 6 and.

[Mike Dawson]

I think that happened this weekend.

[Adam Carolla]

It does happen. But this, I'm talking middle of the game. Sure. What's with the big fucking celebration? Like, okay, and then why wouldn't it happen? You should be surprised when it doesn't happen. These are 320 pound dudes who were definitely the dumbest guys in their graduating classes. Right.

[Mike Dawson]

Who have to stand completely or not stand, but stay completely skilled still for.

[Adam Carolla]

At least, what, a second. They've all been cussed 52 times, right? And so they're not exactly math whizzes in the first place. They're the biggest, dumbest dudes from your high school. They've been banged in the head 1,000 times.

[Mike Dawson]

They're balancing £300 on two bad knees.

[Adam Carolla]

Two bad knees and three bad knuckles. Yeah. And you got a quarterback in there going, see, I'm surprised these guys don't jump every fucking play. Like considering the average, the average American that I talk to. Now, if they go, wait a minute, how do you get to the Home Depot from here? I'll go, go down this street, turn left, it'll be on your right. They'll go, okay. And then eight seconds later they go, where's that Home Depot? Again, like most people can't carry information from the front door to the back of my shop. When I tell people stuff at the front door, go to the back of the shop. When I get to the back of the shop, they've lost it between the front door in the back of the shop. Right. You're asking. These 300 pound guys have been concussed and we're at the bottom of their class not to jump every once in a while. And when it does happen, it shouldn't be caused for so much celebration and you shouldn't be surprised. And it really shouldn't be that big a deal. I feel that way. I feel that way about it. You know, like a short slant touchdown in the middle of the season. Like how much celebrating are you doing? Even a home run in the middle of the season, in the middle of the game. Just fucking act like you've been there before.

[Mike Dawson]

The level of celebration is disproportionate to the result of the call on the field.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it's five yards. It's the minimum amount. It's not changing the complexion. It's the second car. Oh, we do have it. We have it. Yeah. And the defense always goes nuts. Lined up to go for it, however, here. And the offense will go nuts if the defense. Oh.

[Fran Tarkington]

Woo.

[Adam Carolla]

We're going the other way. Yeah. Was fourth and one and the guy backed out.

[Mike Dawson]

And Red Lions kept the tradition alive and lost on Thanksgiving Day second quarter, by the way.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, but. All right, listen, it's a good thing, but here's the other thing. The refs have it under control. They called it. You don't need to do anything. You don't need to help them with the pointing and the shaking of the fan. They, they got it. They called it. The laundry's on the field. We've stopped the play. We're moving the ball back. You don't need to help the ref by pointing continuously the other direction and flapping up and down.

[Mike Dawson]

And they'll both do it both ways.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Dawson]

Once one team starts pointing, the other team's going to start pointing.

[Adam Carolla]

They'll point whoever jumps offside, the other team acts like they hit a walk off home run in the ninth inning of the World Series. And I'm just saying it's five yards. Relax. Act like you've been there before and it's a done thing.

[Mike Dawson]

I would put that right next to, you know, the, the whole, hey, I got a first down.

[Adam Carolla]

That one.

[Mike Dawson]

When you're down by 21 points.

[Adam Carolla]

Don't need that.

[Mike Dawson]

And there's seven minutes left in the fourth, and you get a first. We don't need that.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Mike Dawson]

Play the game.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. Speaking of the game controversy for you, Dawson, I. I don't know. I got this theory. Jack White, who played at halftime with Eminem of the Detroit game, the most.

[Mike Dawson]

Enjoyable halftime show I've seen in 20 years.

[Adam Carolla]

I think he may be the new Radiohead. I think you have to go, oh, yeah, Jack White. Like, no one goes. You just go, oh, yeah. I know one Jack White song, and so does America. But if Jack White's name comes up, that doesn't mean Jack White's bad. It doesn't mean Radiohead's bad. There are just certain bands in certain eras where you got to go, oh, yeah, just to keep. You got to keep a little street cred.

[Mike Dawson]

He gets a lot more credit than he deserves.

[Adam Carolla]

So I'm watching. He plays a song that I've never heard, but it's fine. And then. And then the operative word being played, right? That's true. And then Eminem comes out and raps, and then it's right into Bum, bum, bum bum bum.

[Mike Dawson]

Right?

[Adam Carolla]

If Jack White didn't have Bum, bum, bum, bum bum, like, who's got more out of one riff? Like, you go, well, Led Zeppelin had some riffs. Yeah, but they had 128 riffs, you know, and so did Aerosmith and so the Beatles. Like, so's. I don't know, like, America. Is there one Jack White song you can name that's not Bum, bum bum bum bum? I don't know that America can.

[Mike Dawson]

I cannot. That one's called Seven Nation army, and.

[Adam Carolla]

You know a lot about music. And he started off, and I started thinking, a, appreciate the playing. I appreciate the live. Don't get me. Don't get me wrong. I just started thinking he may be the new radio head in that and.

[Mike Dawson]

That we have to like him.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, there's certain. Okay, let me.

[Mike Dawson]

A lot of people who don't know anything about him will claim to be enormous fans.

[Adam Carolla]

This is his opening song.

[Mike Dawson]

I was watching this very, very closely, and as far as I can tell, this is a live performance.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Dawson]

I don't know how he's able to get it live when every other time they're telling people they have to play to a track.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I just watching it, and I was like, it's fine. I only know one song. America only knows one song. If you went to. If you interviewed every single person that's remotely associated with Rolling Stone magazine and ask if they like Jack White, you Never have one go. Yeah. All right. He's just in that group.

[Mike Dawson]

I believe Jack White is on the naming committee for the Rock and Roll hall of Fame or the nominating or. He's definitely a voting member, but I think he's on the Nominating committee.

[Adam Carolla]

All right.

[Mike Dawson]

I also believe he's in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.

[Adam Carolla]

Is he. Wait, rewind it like 30 seconds. Let me just listen. He doesn't have a great voice. He can play, but a lot of guys can play.

[Mike Dawson]

Yeah. I've never heard this song before.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, considering he's got three songs to play, and he's gonna end with army of Seven Nations.

[Mike Dawson]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

Bum, Bum, Bum. It's gonna end with that one. And then. And then Eminem's doing the middle one, and you got three. You gotta play your second most famous song out of the game, which is this one, which we've never heard. I think. I think it's Radiohead syndrome.

[Mike Dawson]

It's very possible. Now, his song Seven Nation army is a big anthem.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Mike Dawson]

In stadiums. It's played all the time. And it reminds me. It kind of makes me think, you know, Alan Parsons.

[Adam Carolla]

Serious.

[Mike Dawson]

Which used to be the Chicago Bulls intro song.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, that song.

[Mike Dawson]

I think that Jack White is now as far as stadium mailbox money goes. I think he's pulling in more than Parsons on Sirius because of that.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, he.

[Fran Tarkington]

Ladies and gentlemen, Detroit's own Eminem.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. Anyway, we get. I. I feel like without that song, I don't know if anyone ever heard of Jack White, but. All right. But he. He's the new radio head in that. In. You know, 20 years ago, you had to love Radiohead, even if you didn't really know who Radiohead was or you couldn't name any of their songs. You just had to like Radiohead because that meant your cool new new music.

[Mike Dawson]

I'm very proud to say that I've Radiohead and I still do not.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Although there's a version of Radiohead I like, which is. The radio's playing. Well.

[Mike Dawson]

It'S like Roadhead.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Fran Tarkington]

All right.

[Adam Carolla]

The other thing I want to bounce off you, Dawson, it's my theory, which is I watched a clip of Uma Thurman's daughter, who is also Ethan Hawke's daughter, and I think from Stranger Things, which everyone makes a big deal out of, which I don't watch or I've seen some of. It's fine. But she was given a pro abortion speech on late night tv. Cause, you know, it's comedy. It's comedy. And she's got the dumb righteous chick thing where she doesn't know what to do with her hands. Cause it's all feelings. But either way, I wasn't really the speech I was vibing on. Cause somebody sent it to me. And if you wanna know how my brain works, somebody tweeted it out. And they were appalled at a pro abortion stance. But I was appalled at her stance. She had her foot on the fucking upholstery.

[Fran Tarkington]

My mom wrote this really beautiful essay about her abortion that she got when.

[Adam Carolla]

She put on the chair.

[Mike Dawson]

Look at the bottom of. Look how dirty the bottom of her foot is.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And we'll play it out. Go ahead. And then I'll tell you my theory.

[Fran Tarkington]

And about how if she hadn't have had it, she wouldn't have become the person that she'd become and I wouldn't exist. And how both of my parents lives would have been totally derailed and she hadn't had access to safe and legal health care. Fundamental health care. Of course wealthy people will always be able to get abortions. You didn't know there were more.

[Mike Dawson]

Right?

[Fran Tarkington]

People will not only not be able to pursue their dreams, but actually lose their lives and be unsafe. I'm on with this.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. I'm gonna lose your life. You can't. What about your dreams?

[Fran Tarkington]

I don't know.

[Adam Carolla]

What about the dream of the kid who you aborted? He's got dreams. All right. Feet on the sofa.

[Mike Dawson]

Lucked out. We could have had your brother.

[Adam Carolla]

The feet on the sofa. All right, so here's my theory about feet on the sofa. It's an entitlement thing. Sure. So basically when the dudes like the Gavin Newsoms and the Obamas do the super deep knee cross, that's a signal like nothing is in a bubble. Everything is attached to something.

[Mike Dawson]

Especially when you're living on that public arena. Everything.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I'm just saying, you know, there's a dude version where the guy's like, hey, I'm from Queens, don't bother me. You know, everything's sort of affect. Everything is sort of pushing something out there. Who's here? But listen, you getting a ram power wagon, jacking it up, getting mud flaps with Yosemite Sam and two pistols saying back off. That's you're making a statement.

[Mike Dawson]

I miss those.

[Adam Carolla]

I miss those too. Chevy Sham had two smoking six shooters and said back off. I miss those as well. But everything is a. Whether it's conscious or not is a sort of message. Now when I see a 25 year old person whose feet are on the sofa. I see a kid who is never disciplined.

[Mike Dawson]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Like, no one has ever walked in from the kitchen, had the kid with the feet on the sofa when the kid was nine, and whacked him in the back of the head, and get your fucking feet off the goddamn sofa. That shit's from IKEA. It costs 600 bucks, and it's only four months old. And they put your fucking feet on the ground. And then you raise your hand again and they go, okay, okay, that's it. That's a person that's never been told anything, because the first thing you would be told is, get your fucking feet off the fucking sofa. Sure. And certainly don't try to pull that shit at other people's houses. And certainly don't go on TV and pull that shit. But then, thirdly, is it really comfortable to sit on your feet? Like, I feel that's the whole thing about. Dude.

[Fran Tarkington]

I know.

[Adam Carolla]

It's the dude with the nut crunch. It's like, are you more Brock. All right, Justin Trudeau. Are you more comfortable cutting the circulation off to your nutsack for a prolonged period of time? Is that more? Or is it just worth the exposure? Like, what I'm saying is, yes, my nuts have fallen asleep, and, yes, this is uncomfortable, but I am signaling who I am.

[Mike Dawson]

Yeah, I think.

[Adam Carolla]

And of course. And by the way, I think it's.

[Mike Dawson]

Go ahead.

[Adam Carolla]

Is there such a thing as somebody who got up there, sat on their feet, put their feet on the sofa? I don't know if this was Conan or. Oh, not Conan, but Colbert. Well, I don't know what show it was, but here's the whole point. Is there anyone who would sit that way and then say, listen, Stephen, I'm a Christian, and I don't believe in abortion at any state. I don't care if it's long term. I don't care. I believe that once there's a heartbeat, then you can't. You would never see that person sit that way. It's like a different mindset. Like, you would never. You would never see the dude do the super deep leg cross and go, I wanna blow up Venezuelan drug boat. Either. It's like, you know what they're gonna say when you see the posture. Right. Sitting on the feet. Feet on the sofa means I've never been disciplined. I never had a mom and a dad go, hey, hey, get your shit together.

[Mike Dawson]

I think I've been told in my entire life to get my feet off the couch twice because I was disciplined right in also 15 years. Two times they had to tell me to get my feet off the couch. And the second time, there will not be a third.

[Adam Carolla]

Also, the. You're also signaling that you're not fat. Fat chicks can't pull this shit off. You're kind of shaming the big gals.

[Mike Dawson]

Well, you could argue you're signaling you're not fat by existing, but yeah, fat people can't do that. Absolutely.

[Adam Carolla]

Fat chicks, I don't care how progressive they are, they can't pull off that.

[Mike Dawson]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Also, like I said, I've met a lot of women and men, but I realized when I was looking at the chick at the airport lounge, she was putting her feet all over. It's like no one's ever walked up there and went, hey, bitch, get your fucking feet off the fucking sofa. Like it's never happened. So she is someone who's cruised, by the way. You also, when you grow up in that environment, can have semi retarded ideas that you feel good about sharing with a large audience.

[Mike Dawson]

Of course, her level of self confidence.

[Adam Carolla]

Is through the roof. Right? All right, let's get into some news with the you, shall we?

[Mike Dawson]

All right. The new director of the Food and Drug Administration's vaccine division told his agency in a staff memoir that an internal review found that at least 10 children died after and because of receiving the COVID vaccine.

[Adam Carolla]

Look, if they were healthy, then that's more kids than died of COVID while healthy. It's all the kids. It all back to the kids. Every road's to the kids. That's all they did was the kids. That's all they did was scare dumb mamas. Dumb mamas controlled the house and dumb mamas became their foot soldiers and did their fucking bidding. So it's basically like, you go, look, what do you want? You go, well, I want everyone to not take ivermectin and not take hydroxychloroquine and get vaccinated and stay in and shelter in place and wipe everything down with Purell. You are not gonna get that done with me. You will get it done with a dumb ass wife. You poison her brain and you get to her and then she inflicts. She is the disciplinarian. She lays down all the rules, the COVID rules at the house, right? And the way you get her is you scare her about kids. That's what works with her. So kids, kids, kids. If they had just said at the beginning of this, you know, it doesn't really appear to harm healthy kids. It just doesn't it just doesn't seem to have. It's like maybe a flu or cold to a healthy young person. So it doesn't really seem to affect kids. It would have been a totally different trajectory. We wouldn't have shut the schools down. We wouldn't have shut society. If they had told us what they knew about kids, then we would have gone a different direction. But they never did. They never did. They wouldn't because they held that they guarded that information. And they guarded that information because once you let the kids off the danger hook, like V said, it doesn't appear to really be dangerous to healthy kids. Then every mom in the world would have stopped enforcing all the retarded edicts they put before her. And that's where we got. And that's why the dumb moms got the fucking kids vaccinated and was totally unnecessary for them.

[Mike Dawson]

Absolutely.

[Adam Carolla]

And now it's dangerous. Thanks, moms. Great job. Next time ask a fucking question, would you please, before you light your fauci candle? Fucking dumb shit. Yep. Everyone in this fucking safety sphere and all this thing, it's fucking us up. You guys fucked up your kids in the name of safety. Good job, moms.

[Mike Dawson]

Smart.

[Adam Carolla]

Keep listening to dopes who lie to you.

[Mike Dawson]

Well, the media certainly isn't helping. This article comes from AOL and they say experts are pushing back guess the expert that they quote the guy that RFK fired. He's the expert.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, listening your expert title are null and void because all your experts were wrong all throughout Covid. And all my experts were right that you pulled off the Internet.

[Mike Dawson]

He says this memo conveys a very troubling mixture of misrepresentation and lies. The climate within the agency is incredibly toxic right now. The agency that you got fired from.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Mike Dawson]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Mike Dawson]

Fucking and then might ring a bell that I couldn't hear.

[Adam Carolla]

Who gets into the hall of fame with one fucking song?

[Mike Dawson]

I don't know. Somebody who's sitting on the nominating committee.

[Fran Tarkington]

Aha.

[Adam Carolla]

Also, I think it's the chick drummer thing. I think they like that.

[Mike Dawson]

They do, they do. This article goes on. I gotta share this with you too. Kennedy, an anti vaccine activist has downplayed the benefits of. It's like, come on guys, no one's going to take you seriously anymore. Listen, except, except for moms who are scared.

[Adam Carolla]

Well listen, he's four vaccines you need and against vaccines you don't.

[Mike Dawson]

He's not an anti vaccine.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm not getting a vaccine for malaria and neither my kids does that make me anti vaccine or just mean they're not going to get malaria so it's not worth whatever risk comes along with the vaccine.

[Mike Dawson]

That's what that means.

[Adam Carolla]

That's all I ever said. It's all ever said. The fucking kids. Yeah.

[Mike Dawson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Sad.

[Mike Dawson]

Well, Trump said retard on social media over the weekend, referring to Minnesota Governor Tim Walz as a retard.

[Adam Carolla]

I am very, I'm. I'm very glad that. Listen, I'm not going to call myself the Harriet Tubman or the Rosa Parks of retard but when the chips were stacked against me about 10, 15 years ago and everyone's trying to put a ban on retard and they told me, they said you got to sit in the back of the short Bus. You were front of the bus.

[Mike Dawson]

I said, no.

[Adam Carolla]

I said, fuck right off. That's one of my favorite words, and it's the most applicable to most. So many people I talk to. Absolutely. I was on stage.

[Mike Dawson]

It's applicable to Tim Walls.

[Adam Carolla]

I know. I was on stage with Todd Glass, I think the comedian, who's a wonderful guy, loves to beat me up, even though I played his charity. I love when people die. Anyway, he's a fucking unfunny douche. But we're on stage at the Improv, and he was telling me I couldn't use the word, and I just went, yeah, I can. And he's like, no, you can't. I love it when. I love it when standups police the language of other standups. It's so fucking awesome. But anyway, I never. You know, look, there was some tough sledding for a while, but I stood my ground. I stood my retard ground, and we're.

[Mike Dawson]

All better for it.

[Adam Carolla]

Thank you.

[Mike Dawson]

Well, there's blowback and backlash because. Because he used the word retard. A senator in Indiana who has a daughter with down syndrome is very upset, and he says that he's not gonna vote for redistricting in Indiana because Donald Trump said the word retard. Not for any reason worth merit.

[Adam Carolla]

Retard should have also this thing where it's like, I have a child. Oh, fuck off with your fucking child. Who gives a fucking narcissist. Douchebags. Everyone's got a child with some shit going on, so shut up.

[Mike Dawson]

Well, basically, this was just an opportunity for him to act on the feelings he already had.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, he's going to take a narcissistic stance, of course. Yeah. All right, listen. Advance. I just think it's hilarious.

[Mike Dawson]

The President of the United States formed it, called the former running mate in the last election a retard or retarded.

[Adam Carolla]

I enjoy it.

[Mike Dawson]

That's amazing.

[Adam Carolla]

Here's the thing. Advance is advance and retard is retard. Yes. It's all a timing thing. It has to do with cars. You take your distributor and you could advance the timing, or you can retard the timing. By the way, the way to pass a smog is to retard the timing, and then you can advance it a little once you get your smog situation.

[Mike Dawson]

I tell my friends, right, whenever I call them retarded. I'm just saying, look, your timing's off. That's all I'm saying.

[Adam Carolla]

Mm. Mm. The. My Hawk clip was from Jimmy Fallon, okay. Some three years ago, but feet on the sofa.

[Mike Dawson]

The bottom of her feet, too. I mean, that's not. That can't be a good look. Was that a sock?

[Adam Carolla]

No, it was the bottom of a. It's clearly the bottom of a shoe because it has a shape like a sole. Yeah. It's not a sock shape. Yeah, no. She walked down the filthy, mean streets of Manhattan through the gutters, through the rat feces, through the hobo flop, and walked right onto that upholstered stage and put her feet right up on there. Also, it's also a kind of a I don't respect you way of sitting.

[Fran Tarkington]

Sure.

[Adam Carolla]

Like, it's not the way you'd sit. Like, if the principal called, there's a way to sit. Like when the principal calls you into their office and like, oh, young man, you're in trouble. Like, you don't sit like that if.

[Mike Dawson]

You sat like that in court.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, right.

[Mike Dawson]

The judge would not be happy.

[Adam Carolla]

The judge would not be happy if you sat that way in court. Your attorney would elbow you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he'd ride on a little pad, a scratch pad, and he'd write, put your goddamn feet on the ground because the judge is watching us. Right. And also, it's basically the equivalent of put on a cardigan sweater. You know what I mean? As a dude, let's not look like a thug. Yeah.

[Mike Dawson]

That's the bottom of boot kind of thing.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. All right, there it is, everybody. I don't know why it's comfortable, by the way, but somehow. All right, retard.

[Mike Dawson]

You ever seen the movie Rush Hour? Any of the movies Rush Hour?

[Adam Carolla]

Maybe some. The first one, I think so.

[Mike Dawson]

I've never. I've never seen one. But they were big hits. They were big hits. Apparently Donald Trump, President Trump spoke with Paramount head David Ellison, whose father is Larry Ellison, the billionaire co founder of Oracle. And apparently he professed his love for Rush Hour. And now Rush Hour is coming back. It doesn't say that everybody signed on to it, but nobody's fighting against it. But forget about Rush Hour. What's more important? Buried deep in the article is it turns out that President Trump is a huge fan of the Jean Claude Van Damme classic Bloodsport.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[Mike Dawson]

Now, if we can get a remake of Bloodsport, Well, I'm down.

[Adam Carolla]

Listen, let's start with Time Cop. All right? And then we go to Bad Ronald. It's high time we had a Bad Ronald remake. Scott Jacoby's not been doing anything for like 47 years. We can get him to play the dad this time he'll come back. All I know is I remember. I have a faint memory of being backstage at a. This happens to me every once in a while. To the best of my knowledge, I've never met Chris Tucker. To the best of my knowledge, I was doing a show in like San Antonio and it was like a thing where sometimes you play these venues where they'll have like two venues in the same place. And I think I was doing, yeah.

[Mike Dawson]

Like Copper Blues or something like that where they got music in one. Well, there's like one another.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I was doing the bar, I was doing. Yeah, there's a lot of those. And then there's the ones where like the Indian Casino or like when I was there and we're there for Atlantic City and Leno was playing the 2000 seater and I was playing the thousand seater underneath it or something like that. It was one of those situations. And then like I came off stage and Chris Tucker came off stage and he was like in his room, but it wasn't a dressing room, it was like a big, a big room with two doors, you know, and he was in there and he was with his people and his whatever. And I finished my show and I was walking off stage and somebody went, well, Chris Tucker's in there, you know. And I went, oh, I've never met Chris Tucker before. And they said, you should go say hi to Chris Tucker. And then I was like, I don't know, it doesn't work, it never works out right. And I was like, ah, yeah, yeah, say hi to Chris Tucker. You're never gonna see the guy again. Go, Sam stinks. You guys just walked off stage, you know, couple comedians, couple legendary comedians, go say hi to him, whatever. And I was like, yeah, you think you're okay? And I remember, like I opened the door and he was in there wearing like an all white pleather suit, like white boots and white belt and the full Eddie Murphy, you know, stand up leather suit. And he had his like posse all like behind him and he was like sort of in the middle of the story and they were kind of. Oh yeah, they were, yes, manning him all the way. And I opened the door and it was like, it was like the needle on the record, you know, it was like, may we dance with your date? No, I was like, Otis, my main man. I like opened the door and everyone just kind of looked at me and went. And I just went, huh? And I went, oh, yeah, my bad. And I closed the door and I got right back to talking and I Was like, I knew it. That's on me, right? Should have known, should have known, should have known, should have known.

[Mike Dawson]

And then that's the thing. Number one, you can't go against your instincts. But number two, it's like when you. When you plan a trip and you know that if everything goes right, you're gonna land and you're gonna have an hour to watch football and then take a nap. As soon as you speak that thing, as soon as you speak the goodness that could happen, you are eliminating it from the possibilities in your life.

[Adam Carolla]

But here's the thing, Dawson. I don't know. Less than a year ago, Mike August walks in here and he goes, oh, you got tickets to ufc? I go, yeah. And he goes, why don't you ask Costner to go with you? I go, no, come on, leave the guy alone. Mike, don't bother. Kevin Costner?

[Mike Dawson]

Yeah. In your mind, there was no way that can happen.

[Adam Carolla]

He's like, call Kevin Costner to ask him if he wants to go watch UFC with you. I go, come on.

[Mike Dawson]

He's got.

[Adam Carolla]

He's going to get angry. Leave him alone. You know? And he's on the fucking set somewhere. He's not going to. And I call Kevin Ganx, you know, we're going to the UFC together. So. See, it works. There's many times when I shouldn't have done it, but I don't know which time. That's the whole time.

[Fran Tarkington]

That's the key, right?

[Adam Carolla]

I should have listened.

[Mike Dawson]

Your life would be so much.

[Adam Carolla]

I should have listened to me with the Chris Tucker, but I shouldn't have listened to me with the Kevin Costner. Yep, that's what I'm saying. All right, let's do one more story.

[Mike Dawson]

All right, so Michelle Obama has been accused of taking Ozempic after a photo shoot showing a skinnier figure.

[Adam Carolla]

I love the Ozempic controversy. I love how women get angry at Ozempic. They get angry at the women who are on Ozempic. I love that. It's basically for women. It's the new boob job. It's the women who are flat chested going, that's not even real. I don't know. Dudes seem to like it. Yeah, but she didn't do that on her own. I know, but fucking, she's got dudes buying her drinks, you know, they fucking hate that. This is the new boob job because big jugs aren't a thing anymore. But being skinny, always in style and something. There's something weird. I'm gonna file her under you know, I'm gonna file her under. I'm gonna put Michelle Obama in the Gavin Newsom category. In that you can say, well, who's this person and who's that person? Like, you go, well, who's Donald Trump? He's in a hurry. He's bluster. He's a blowhard. He's confident, wants to get shit done, whatever. You go, who's that guy? Okay? And then you can kind of go, well, who's Bernie Sanders? And he goes, well, he's kind of a fucking hippie, kibbutz commune, kind of fucking Russian apologist, but he wants everyone to fucking half everything. He still likes his three houses, but whatever.

[Mike Dawson]

It's like a Muppet.

[Adam Carolla]

Fine. Like, who's Al Gore? Well, he's just gonna talk about the environment. And then you go, well, who's Michelle Obama and who's Gavin Newsom? And I go, I have no fucking idea. Angry, weird, sociopathic. Seemed to be some sort of creation that's just trying to figure out what's most popular. All the time complaining about everything and never doing anything. Like, totally ineffective on saying nonsensical things like, hey, don't touch my hair. You wish you touched my hair. It's like, no one's to touch your hair. Clearly angry, racist, pandering and weird. But I don't know who they are. You know what I mean? Like, I know who Bernie Sanders is, and I know who you go, donald Trump, Bernie Sanders, the two. I know who Bill Maher is. I know who these people are. I really don't know who she is, other than she seems angry and a malcontent. We do have. We do have Burt Reynolds doing one of her speeches.

[Mike Dawson]

Oh, we gotta hear this. I think she did make a huge big deal about her hair.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, we got.

[Mike Dawson]

Did you see her hair in that picture? I wonder how long. How much work she put into that hair to have it look like that.

[Adam Carolla]

The thing that's funny about her, too, is I was thinking about it, she's like, you're not. You know, America's not ready for a beautiful, tall, strong, strong. It's like we had Diana ross in, like, 1967. We liked her a lot.

[Fran Tarkington]

Our hair comes out.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, hold on. All right, this is Burt Reynolds. You know, I like to put the voice of Burt Reynolds over Gavin Newsom. But we've put it over Michelle Obama talking about her hair.

[Fran Tarkington]

Let me explain something to white people. Our hair comes out of our head naturally in a curly pattern. So when we're straightening it to Follow your beauty standards. We are trapped by the straightness. That's why so many of us can't swim and we run away from the water. People won't go to the gym because we're trying to keep our hair straight for y'.

[Adam Carolla]

All.

[Fran Tarkington]

It is exhausting. And it's so expensive and it takes up so much time. Braids are for y' all so we can work harder and focus on the work. So why do we need an act, an act of law to tell white folks to get out of our hair? Don't tell me how to wear my hair. Don't wonder about it. Don't touch it. Just don't.

[Mike Dawson]

Just don't.

[Adam Carolla]

Don't. By the way, in terms of wondering about shit, sorry, bitch, you can't control the wondering part. I wonder about everything all the fucking time. She's literally saying, don't touch my hair. Don't wonder about my hair. Don't talk about my hair.

[Mike Dawson]

That's just talking about her hair.

[Adam Carolla]

Right? But that's a supreme insane narcissist that you're dealing with right there. So something's wrong with her. I never get why you think Obama would go, listen, I fucking hate this country. And I'm racist as shit, too. I hate white people as well, but reel it in, bitch. I gotta go out fucking. You're all over the Internet, people calling you a fucking racist and a douchebag and a narcissist all the time. Just fucking reel it in a little bit. You know what I mean? Do something about some program for the kids or something. Stop fucking talking about yourself all the time. People wondering about your hair. By the way, this thing was like, don't come up and touch my. Could you get within nine feet of her to touch her hair before Secret Service tackled you to the ground? And who's touched her hair?

[Mike Dawson]

No. I tried to walk up to Carlos Santana at the Bay area music awards 20 years ago, and I nearly got tackled.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[Mike Dawson]

I can't imagine what would happen.

[Adam Carolla]

You're riding like a seven beer buzz, right?

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah.

[Mike Dawson]

Hey, I'm gonna go talk to Carlos.

[Adam Carolla]

Carlos is, like one of the only Hispanics with a Jheri curl.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

So I do. I do want to touch his hair.

[Mike Dawson]

That's what they.

[Adam Carolla]

Santana's a Santana now. Crosby from Crosby, Stills and Nash. I don't know if I wanted to touch what was left of his hair, but Carlos Santana. Oh, yeah.

[Mike Dawson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, Dawson, you've done it.

[Mike Dawson]

I gotta add one thing to this. I love finding these just wonderful examples of bias in the media. So people are, you know, calling out Michelle Obama for doing Ozempic. They're not saying, how dare you? They're saying, let everybody know. Be honest about what's going on. Well, it says in this article, the public health advocate, Michelle Obama, the public health advocates sudden weight loss sparked unfounded speculation.

[Adam Carolla]

I love when they do unfounded.

[Mike Dawson]

Well, actually, no. If you lose weight rapidly and then do a photo shoot with your brand new skinny body, I don't think that's unfounded.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, the other thing about speculation, as we talk about all the time, by.

[Mike Dawson]

Nature, it is unfounded. I don't know.

[Adam Carolla]

It's called speculation. Yeah, it's called speculation. Now, spectators, let's see, what were the guys who went and looked for the gold? Prospectors. Prospectors and spectators. Spectating is like, here's what I think, but it doesn't mean it happened. But none of it is unfounded. It's like when they used to write all the Trump articles and they go, trump claims he won the election falsely. Yeah, yeah. No, it's here. Trump is claiming he won the election. I'm claiming I saw Bigfoot. The false or the non false. That's not part of the story.

[Mike Dawson]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

I claim I saw a ghost. Right. You can't go, adam Carolla falsely claimed he saw a ghost. You go, adam Carolla claimed he saw a ghost. Well, if you get it, then you can think, adam Carl's a nut. But you can't say, falsely claimed I saw a ghost. I claimed I saw a ghost or I claim or Trump claimed this or did that and people are speculating that she's on Ozempic. It's not falsely speculating. You can't falsely speculate. You can just speculate.

[Mike Dawson]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, I know. So we all know whose side they're on, but I don't know why they tip their hand every time. All right, the Great hall of Fame, 18 years in the league. Sir Francis of Tarkington, great hall of fame quarterback, is going to join me right after this. Better help the holidays. All about tradition. Some folks got a ton of others, not so many. Making new ones, hopefully. I'm thinking about starting a new tradition this year. Taking time out for myself and all the madness. Could be the perfect way just to sit back and drink a little hot cocoa and just get a little quiet time, a little peace and quiet. Well, therapy can be that new tradition. A chance to get clarity instead of chaos during what can be pretty hectic times and sometimes lonely times. During this season. Betterhelp has got thousands of fully licensed therapists who work by a strict code of conduct. So you're in good hands. They'll do the matching work for you. You answer a quick questionnaire and they usually nail the right therapist first. Try. If not, switch at any time. With over 5 million people helped and 4.9 star rating based on 1.7 million reviews, that's a lot. Yeah, this stuff works. So if you want to rewrite your holiday tradition and take care of yourself, BetterHelp online therapy is your ticket to closing the year strong. Am I right, Dawson?

[Mike Dawson]

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[Adam Carolla]

Well, NFL legend Fran Tarkington is joining me. I feel like you're just baked into my childhood. All those years of playing for the Giants, for the Vikings. 17 years in the league.

[Fran Tarkington]

18 years.

[Adam Carolla]

18 years in the league. Also, I'm guessing you're in the hall of Fame. I didn't even look. But you got to be in the hall of Fame.

[Fran Tarkington]

I am in the hall of Fame.

[Adam Carolla]

You gotta be. You got to be in the hole.

[Fran Tarkington]

And I'm going to tell you another thing that not many people Know, I set every passing record in my 18 years, every running record for a quarterback. Nobody else but me broke all those records of most of them from John United. My record stood for 19 years. The passing. My good friend. Pretty good player, right? Yeah, His. His record stood for three years.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, you know, to be fair, Bob Beam and long jump record stood for like 40 years.

[Fran Tarkington]

I don't know.

[Adam Carolla]

Once the kids start breaking records, they start breaking them.

[Fran Tarkington]

Well, all records are to be broken, right? Because we should get better. Things get better.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, but I'll tell you a record that's never going to be broken. I don't think.

[Fran Tarkington]

Tell me.

[Adam Carolla]

The Dodgers were playing a baseball game about six, eight years ago, and a guy hit two grand slams in one inning. And I don't.

[Fran Tarkington]

I would say that'll never. That'll never be repeated.

[Adam Carolla]

When is the next time someone is going to hit two grand? And then Ohtani in the World series got up nine times, I think, in one game.

[Fran Tarkington]

Nine times in one game.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, the game was 18 innings and.

[Fran Tarkington]

Two home runs, didn't he?

[Adam Carolla]

He got on base every time they.

[Fran Tarkington]

Like, they walked him.

[Adam Carolla]

He hit home runs, and I think they walked him. The whole point is, is when is the next time someone's going to either hit two grand slams in one inning or in a World Series game, get up nine, get on base nine times?

[Fran Tarkington]

It'll be a long time. It'll be a long time.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, the great Sir Francis of Tarkington, as Howard Cosell would call him back in the day. And you always cheered for Fran because he scrambled. And they're guys who scramble in the league. They didn't scramble like you scrambled back in the day. Fran was a scrambler back when people were sort of, you know, pocket guys. And now you have pocket guys, and you have guys who can run. But Fran scrambled because you looked like you were running for your life, where, you know, Cam Newton didn't look like he was running for his life when he was scrambling because he's 65250.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah, he's a monster.

[Adam Carolla]

But what are your dimensions? What were your dimensions when you played in the NFL? Six.

[Fran Tarkington]

Six foot tall, 190 pounds.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. Not big by NFL standards, and a lot of big guys chasing you around. And I guess you must always been a scrambler at Georgia.

[Fran Tarkington]

Well, here's the thing. I played for Athens High School in Athens, Georgia, home of the Georgia Bulldogs. We run the state championship. I was the quarterback. I scrambled and I threw, but I ran a lot. I didn't even think about it. It didn't. Wasn't unusual for me. I went to college. We didn't have national champions, but the championship win was. We won the sec. And I ran. I scrambled, but I didn't. I didn't know that was good or bad. I come to the NFL in 1961, and I scrambled because that's. I didn't know that was unusual. And in 61, there was no other quarterback that scrambled. And all the defensive guys hated it. And because they had to run and they had to go chase a quarterback, they never had to do that before. But it was part of my genre, and it made sense for me, but I didn't know that It. It wasn't something I just. I'm going to scramble today. I would say, after Brady is gone. Now, if you don't have the ability to scramble, you're not going to be a great quarterback. You've got to be able to be mobile. And so now today, Patrick Mahomes, you know, he's a great player, won two Super Bowls, great quarterback, but he scrambles, he runs. And so does most. Most of the people playing today. And I think. I don't think you could hardly be effective as a quarterback in college or in pro if you don't run as well as pass.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, but just to be clear, those guys have a kind of calculated scramble. You would turn your back to the line of scrimmage and run the wrong direction.

[Fran Tarkington]

I would run here, turn around, run here, turn around, run here. And one time, we're playing the Cowboys, they had a great defensive end, Bob Lilly.

[Adam Carolla]

Yep. And.

[Fran Tarkington]

And he came up to my center, Mick Tinglehoff, both of them in the hall of Fame, says, what does this guy do? Why? What is he just running around like that? He said, don't worry. One thing you can count on, when he runs away, he'll run right back to you. So just wait for him.

[Adam Carolla]

Mick Tinglehoff.

[Fran Tarkington]

Mick Tinglehoff.

[Adam Carolla]

That's a name. And Bud Grant back in the day.

[Fran Tarkington]

Jim Marshall, Alan Page, the guy. Carl Eller. We had the Purple People eaters. Yeah, we had great defenses.

[Adam Carolla]

You did. You had. I think, Sammy White, you'd probably throw to back then, right?

[Fran Tarkington]

Sammy White and Ahmad Rashad.

[Adam Carolla]

I'll tell you the greatest Monday Night Football, when they would break it down the halftime, and Howard Cosell would say, sir Francis of Talkington to Hamad Rashad. It was the greatest ever.

[Fran Tarkington]

Howard Cosell brought. You know, I worked with him on Monday Night Football. When I retired, I did Monday Night Football with him for four.

[Adam Carolla]

He.

[Fran Tarkington]

He made that he made Monday Night Football.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Fran Tarkington]

Did he have a lot of knowledge about football? No, but he had a thing about him. He was an entertainer and he loved the game, and he couldn't have been a coach or a player, but he brought something to the broadcast that made it great, and he set the standard for what it is today. And he's not with us anymore. But he was a character, and most people didn't like him. I thought he was great. I thought he was great.

[Adam Carolla]

He was almost like a pro wrestling heel or something. He was easy to hate. But you love that guy. I mean, you have power.

[Fran Tarkington]

And he loved doing it, too. I mean, he just loved doing it.

[Adam Carolla]

You were up in the booth with Dandy Don Meredith, right? Another. Another great character. You know, they used to. They used to have characters and they would let you be a character, and now things are pretty corporate and they're kind of sterilized and everyone kind of has the same.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Vibe. But back then you had characters and also, I don't know, they probably let you have a drink or two on a cold night in an open booth back then. Right.

[Fran Tarkington]

Well, Dandy Don was a unique human being. He was an actor. He played for Tom Landry, who was opposite of Dandy Don. Dandy Don was a free spirit, and, you know, he didn't make any records and things like that. He was a quarterback, but he was. He was a quarterback for the Cowboys. And. And he and Tom Landry were polar opposite because Dandy Don was a character. And so, so, so was Cassell. And. And without Cassell and Dandy Don, Monday Night Football wouldn't have been as good. It just wouldn't. But they brought something to it that never had been in football before because everybody was all, you know, like it. But they were great.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, you get there. I mean, you're there in the prime years. You got Howard, you got Dandy Don.

[Fran Tarkington]

Frank Gifford did the play by play.

[Adam Carolla]

Frank Gifford is up there. And then I was looking it up when I was on the way here today, and I was talking to my producer and I said, well, I know Fran was in the booth. And then I was like, O.J. was in the booth, but was O.J. and Fran in there? And we looked it up, and OJ Showed up the year you left, Right.

[Fran Tarkington]

I don't know. I never did Monday night football with O.J. i knew O.J. and I knew him before all the tragedy. In fact, I broke John Unitis record in Buffalo, New York, the last game of the season, and I beat all of his Records that day played in snow. And OJ Set a record rushing record the same day at Buffalo.

[Mike Dawson]

O.J.

[Fran Tarkington]

Was a great, great football player. He was a really good actor. He was a great character. And then all of a sudden, all hell broke loose. Right.

[Adam Carolla]

So he gets. He gets 2,000 yards that snowy day in Buffalo.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And that snowy day in Buffalo, Fran Tarkington beats Johnny Unitis records as well. And with all the O talk and the docs and the retrospectives, they always show that clip of him breaking off a seven yard run and beating, you know, breaking 2,000 yards in Buffalo. But that same day, on the other side of the ball, playing for the Vikings, is Fran Tarkington beating Johnny Unitis record. What? December 16, 1973.

[Fran Tarkington]

There you are.

[Adam Carolla]

What. What Unitis records did you beat that day?

[Fran Tarkington]

I think it was. I think it was the most yards passing. He had the most yards passing. He had touchdown passes. I broke them both.

[Adam Carolla]

In a season?

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah, in a season. And. And, you know, John Unitis was my hero. Quiet guy, played on great teams in Baltimore. Great, great player. And, and. And so to break his record, and I was just maybe 31, 32, and I broke his record. Was. Was a great thrill for me. My gosh, that's unheard of. We played in the snow in Buffalo, and it was so bad that one of my passes I'm throwing, somebody in the stands hits me with. On my back, on my hand with a snowball. They had to throw it 50 yards. I couldn't throw a snowball 50 yards. I wanted to go in the stands to get this guy to come down to give me some lessons and throw it a football.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I mean, it was pre dome stadium then.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Nobody. I don't know. The Superdome maybe. I don't know. Nobody had.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah, it was. Everything was outside then.

[Adam Carolla]

Everything was outside.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Your cheerleaders were high school cheerleaders. Yeah. You know, people were sitting on wooden benches out there. I mean, it was. It was a different. And playing in Minnesota is playing. That was playing in the elements, man. And going from Georgia to Minnesota, that had to be something.

[Fran Tarkington]

Well, in Minnesota, we played it where the baseball team played.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Fran Tarkington]

And so we practiced where the baseball team played. And so we had to deal with the infield, which is all dirt.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Fran Tarkington]

And so it was a whole different, different thing. And. And so we played with. Over the infield, just put the yard markers in there. But it was great. I. I didn't. I didn't know I was playing pro football, playing for the Vikings, doing Good, good things going to Super Bowls. We, we, we didn't quite win one, but we went there.

[Adam Carolla]

Three Super Bowls. Three Super Bowls.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah. I played, I played in three of the first 11 Super Bowls, which is amazing.

[Adam Carolla]

Were you, was there any form of relief when Buffalo lost four Super Bowls? Because there's a lot of talk.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah, your quarterback, I love him. Yeah. And he's a great, great guy. So I'm with him and Peyton Manning up in the hall of Fame at some time. I said, you know, my favorite quarterback is you, Jim. What do you mean? I said, I said, because you, I lost three Super Bowls and you lost four.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I mean, look, obviously to play and, and, and you do it. It's kind of interesting now as you look at things, if you've been around for a while, you know, rock and roll hall of Fame, Academy Award winners, Super bowl champions. There's been so many Super Bowls now and so many awards given out and so many people in the hall of Fame, you know, it starts to get a little diluted, but man, for the first 25 years, the super bowl was the super bowl and to play in three of the first 11 is pretty incredible.

[Fran Tarkington]

Well, and, and we didn't know how to play in those games. Every quarterback I've talked over the years after you win your championship game, there was two weeks, and still is two weeks before the super bowl. We didn't practice that week off. We went home, showed up on the Sunday before the super bowl and went down. And when you got to the super bowl, you couldn't get your offense in because all stuff is going on. I've asked other quarterbacks that played in Super Bowls that won. I said, what did y' all do that off week in that two week span? He said, we scrimmaged. We had real scrimmage in blocking and tackling. Well, we didn't. In other words, we really weren't prepared. The teams that beat us, we beat them before and after. We were not prepared to play in those games and we didn't even come close to winning those games. But we didn't know better. We didn't. We should have gone and practiced that week before and put our offense in and our defense in and have scrimmages, but we didn't.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, as a guy, I played a fair amount of football and in a few other sports, and I can tell you football is a sport where if you beat the team, and it happened to me at a lower level, but we beat a team and then we played that team in the championship game. And I was like, we already beat these guys in the season. Like, I thought we could beat them because it's such a physical game. You know, it's not like baseball where anybody can get hot, win, hit a home run or two or whatever. It's like we beat these guys and they whooped us in the championship. So lesson learned. But the point is, that feeling of going into the super bowl when you already beat the team during the season had to make you feel like we're going to win this game.

[Fran Tarkington]

Well, yeah. Yes and no. Every game, you look at today's game or our game, we all had great players. Our linemen were great. They're big and they're strong and they're fast. Same thing you have today. And so it's not much. Everybody's got a chance. And you look at the. This year, Kansas City, they won two or three Super Bowls up until last week, they were five and five. I think they're five and six now or something like that. How could that happen? Same coach, same quarterback, great players. There's that much difference between the teams that win and the teams that lose. Not much to go on. So you've got to be at your top level every game, intellectually and also physically. It's more than just a physical game. It's an intellectual game. And you've got. You know, back then, the quarterbacks we called our own place. Somebody didn't come from the. And. And put them in our ear. Today they got ear things, and the coach up in the box calls the place. That didn't happen in our era. I called my own play. So I had to know more than they know now. And. But I love that. My last 10 years of playing, I put in the offense, not the offensive coach. And I had to know more. I thought I had to be not only smarter than the other guy, I had to be better coached than the other guy. And so I took it very seriously. And I not only called the plays, but I put in the offense. And that was good for me and good for our team.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, the. I mean, you know, there's a lot of, you know, they're striving for parody, and they have a lot of parity now. You know, the NFL wants to be like, F1, you know, or any sport, any. They want parity. They just. They don't want any one car to have an advantage or to dominate. You know, back in your day, you know, Dallas Cowboys were pretty dominant. The Steelers were sort of the most dominant for, you know, pretty good Period of time.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, and like the Rams and the Vikings were always there too, but, but, but the Steelers were just damn hard, hard to take back.

[Fran Tarkington]

They had Mean Joe Green, they had a good program, the same ownership. Were the owners of the Steelers in that family when rooneys in the 40s?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Fran Tarkington]

And then they still are in there.

[Adam Carolla]

Why?

[Fran Tarkington]

But they had a good run. Hard to keep that run up. Because football, unlike baseball out there in la, you. You spend more money in baseball than any, any team in baseball you got. You can buy the best players in football. Green Bay packers can do as good as the New York Giants or the LA Rams or the other people because they don't have any owners. It's owned by the city. But there's no. There's no billionaires there or whatever. Because what makes it good, the packers get the same cut of the television money as the New York Giants or the LA Rams or the Minnesota Vikings. So they can go compete on an equal basis where Atlanta or other baseball teams, they're not going to be able to spend the money that LA does or New York does, or maybe Boston or Chicago in the NFL. Green Bay packers, because everybody had the television revenue. They can compete against anybody because it's a draft and they get access to the same place as everybody else does.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Parody. What kind of name is Tarkington?

[Fran Tarkington]

Tarkenton. My family. It's an English name. My ancestors were from England. My name is T A R K E N, T O N. There are other Tarkingtons that are T A R K I N, G T O N. But my family came over from England, some from Scotland and some from that area over there.

[Adam Carolla]

Did you appreciate the Howard Cosell, Sir Francis of Tarkington?

[Fran Tarkington]

I love. Not many people loved Howard Cosell, but I did. I thought he was great. And it was Sir Francis. And again, he never played football, he never coached football. He's not an athlete. But he was entertaining. Totally entertaining.

[Adam Carolla]

I agree.

[Fran Tarkington]

He was important to Monday Night Football. And in my early years we didn't have Monday Night Football. But then they came in and Howard was the star of Monday Night Football. He really was.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Fran Tarkington]

I did.

[Adam Carolla]

And then went to the Giants. Why? Why did the Vikings let you go? You're there from 61 to 66. Why'd they let you go and then bring you back? I don't get why they would do that.

[Fran Tarkington]

Because I may I. I made them let me go. I had a quarter. I had a. I played on the Vikings. I was the first quarterback there. I played in their first game. We were a new franchise team and our team, we didn't have many players. We didn't have any veteran players. And no new franchise team had ever won a game their first year. And, and we brought in, they brought in six Quarterbacks and I. I played. The first game we played was against the Chicago Bears. And their owner was George Hallis. Their general manager was George Hallis. Their coach was George Hallis. And George Hallis started the National Football League. He won many championships because he cheated. He could. He owned everything. And we were playing him. We were 28 point underdogs, and I didn't start the game. My coach was a guy named Norm Van Brocklin, a Hall of Fame quarterback who had won a championship at Philadelphia. He played for the Rams before. Really great player. And so he told me, I'm gonna start you against the Bears in that first game. I said, great. But we get to the. We get to the first game, we go out in the field. He says, I gotta get George Shaw, who's a veteran player they drafted for. I need to give him the chance. And I said, give me a break. I didn't play in the first quarter, but then I played the rest of the game, called my own plays. We beat the Bears 37, 17. I completed 17 of 21 passes. I threw for four touchdowns and I ran for another. Nobody's ever done that. They've thrown for four, but they never ran for another. And so we won the game. But Van Broecklink was a great quarterback. He was a great. He understood the game. I learned a lot from him. But he wasn't a very nice guy, and he and I didn't mix. And after my fifth year, I told him, I'm not playing for you anymore. Well, then he goes and says, I should, I should. Da, da, da, da. And I said, no, you're not the right kind of guy for me. And, well, what are you going to do? I said, well, I'm in business. I build businesses. I'll do that. Long story short, the general manager calls me, says, van Bronco told me you had a great, great meeting. I said, a great meeting. This was like in January, the off season. I told him, you're not going to play. You told him, you're not going to play. Well, we want you to stay. I said, I'm not staying. You have to trade me. He calls me the next morning. He says, can you meet me? And the owner, Bernie Ritter, who owned the newspaper in Minneapolis, and he said, can you meet us in Chicago? I said, why? He said, we fired Van Broecklin and we want you to come back and be the quarterback. And I said, I'm not going to have his blood on my. On my body. I'm not going to stay here and play. You're going to have to trade me. And they traded me to the New York Giants. They traded me to the New York giants. Giants were 112 and 1. They were in a real swamp. They gave the giants three number one draft choices, two number two draft choices. And they'd won one game and lost. Lost 12 and tied one. And their quarterback was Earl Morrow, who was the quarterback when the Dolphins won the Super Bowl. Yeah, and really a good player. And so that's how I got to. Got to New York. But I got to New York. God, we didn't. Back then, we didn't have any players. We didn't have any coaches. The ownership was the mayor family, but they were in contact contrast with each other. That wasn't good. But we won games. We went 500 the first year, went to the playoffs in the third or fourth year, but we weren't going to get there. So I go into Wellington Mare. I'm 31 years old. I said, Wellington. He was the owner. I said, you need more players, we need more coaches, more this. I, I really would like you can get something for me. Can you trade me somewhere where I have a chance to win? That's what happened. I went back to Minnesota, but Grant was there. We won six to six division championships, went to three Super Bowls, and, and, and it all was because I got back to a team that had great ownership at the time, and they had, they had, we had Bud Brand, Bud Grant, who was a great coach, and we had great players. And I played my best ball in New York because I was 25 to 31. But we, we did okay in Minnesota, and I'm a Viking and I'm proud of the. What we built there and how well it worked. But I was just a part of it. We had. You got to have the whole thing. You got to have the ownership, you got to have the coach, you got to have the players and to be, be, be successful. Because there's only one team successful. You got 32, but you got to win a Super bowl or be in it anyway. So that's how it all happened. I wouldn't have made it that way, but it happened that way and it worked okay for me.

[Adam Carolla]

Do you remember what you got paid your rookie year in the NFL?

[Fran Tarkington]

I'll tell you. When I was drafted by the New England patriots because the AFL had been in place for one year, they were separate from the NFL. So the Patriots drafted me and they offered me $15,000 with a $5,000 bonus and 61. Pardon?

[Adam Carolla]

61.

[Fran Tarkington]

61.

[Adam Carolla]

15,000 with a 5,000.

[Fran Tarkington]

That's what they offered me. 15,000. For the 5,000, the Vikings offered me 25 $12,500 and a $3,500 bonus. So I was so smart, I took their offer. But they were established. I didn't know the AFL is going to make it or not. I played 18 years in the National Football League. I set all the records. My record stood for 19 years. Went to the Super Bowls. I think I made the Giants better than they could have been, maybe. And all that happened my last year. 78. I, after doing all those things, I was the highest paid player in football. I made $180,000.

[Adam Carolla]

So that's what it was in 1978.

[Fran Tarkington]

78, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

As the highest paid player in football, yeah. You made under 200k.

[Fran Tarkington]

But what I did, you know, I had paper routes. When I was seven years old, I worked. And when I came to Minnesota to play, I had an off season job. I worked for a company called Wilson Truck System, based in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. My job was to hit on the door of shipping clerks in the Dakotas and in Minneapolis to get our trucks to take the goods from the Dakotas to Minneapolis, Chicago and back. And they paid me richly, $600 a month.

[Adam Carolla]

So you're, you're a starting quarterback in the NFL and you're working for a trucking company in the offseason for 600 bucks a month.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

What do you think a average decent single family home would have cost in the Minnesota, Minneapolis, you know, St. Paul, whatever area about the time you got into the lake?

[Fran Tarkington]

I bought one. In my second year, I bought one and I think I bought it for maybe $12,000 maybe.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. So a home was. I mean, it, it'd be the equivalent now of buying a hundred. I mean, not now, but I'm just saying the math. It'd be like saying you bought, like be saying like my salary was $130,000 a year and I bought $100,000 home. Like you were making a little more a year than your $12,000 home.

[Fran Tarkington]

That's it. But I had the $600 a month job. But I also, I did speeches three nights a week in the off season, mostly to churches, and they paid me $25 a speech. Now let me show you the difference. Nick Saban is my great friend. Nick Saban. Pretty good coach, right? As good as it ever was. And we're great friends. We have places on the lake together. And so this last year he did 26 speeches for $200,000 a speech. But for me it was great because it forced me to start businesses. I've worked all my life. All the times I played football, I was doing business working for somebody else. But then when I got to be 25 years old, I started my own companies and I run my own companies now. I'm 85 years old, I'm in my office.

[Adam Carolla]

By the way, I should give a plug. Pipiq.com is one of the companies for its platform, private intelligence platform that gives business access to secure private AI and delivers practical real world benefits as a plug. So here's a philosophical question. You're the quarterback and you're making 15, 20 a year as a quarterback. Now you gotta have some interior linemen, some second string guys. You got guys got to be making seven, $8,000 a year.

[Fran Tarkington]

I mean that's about what, that's about what they made. I was the highest paid player at the end of my career in football and 12, 5 my first year. None of us made any money.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Fran Tarkington]

So here's money there.

[Adam Carolla]

But here's a question then. Were they playing it more for the love of the game back then? No, no, no.

[Fran Tarkington]

We played and we had ability, but we, whatever they paid us, it was more than we thought we could get. There was no money around back then. Yeah. And we, but what, what was interesting all that years that I played, I, I had jobs in the off season and I started companies in the off season. Nobody else did. They didn't go work in the off season. I never could understand that, but I was so glad that I did. Because the only way I learned to play football is because I started when I could walk. I was playing football in the streets of alleys of Washington D.C. when I was seven years old. And, and so you, you know, you've got to have something. Tiger Woods, I had Tiger woods on my show. That's incredible. He was five years old and we had pictures of him hitting golf balls at 5 years old. And I'm saying, holy cow, this kid. So if you're going to be a professional football player, college football player, baseball player, you got to start early. I'm going to say if you're going to be in business and be successful, you better start early and understand how to make it work. Because you only learn from doing and you don't learn from just hanging around.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I was going to bring up, that's incredible because that was one of those iconic shows from back in the day. John Davidson, Kathy Lee Crosby. Kathy Lee Crosby, she was a tennis player. She Was beautiful.

[Fran Tarkington]

Beautiful blonde, beautiful. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Am I having this memory? Maybe I can tell my guys in the booth to do this. But I do have a recollection that Kathy Lee Crosby is the one who filmed Evel Knievel and his jump at Caesar's Palace. Does that sound.

[Fran Tarkington]

I don't think so. I don't think so.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, well, then I gotta think who it was. Okay. It was okay. John Derek, who was Bo Derek's wife or husband, loved the beautiful blondes. And he went down there with his beautiful blonde wife, who was somebody, and literally gave the camera. And that iconic footage of Evel Knievel going over the handlebars and crashing at Caesar's palace was just taken by this blonde girlfriend. The one we've all seen was Blonde Girl, but it wasn't Kathie Lee then who took that footage. But that's incredible. Was one of those shows, like they had those amazing people. And that's incredible. It was appointment viewing back then. We have the video of Tiger woods doing the hitting the golf balls at age five.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah, Age five.

[Adam Carolla]

We can find that. And then we'll try to figure out who took the iconic film of Evel Knievel crashing at Caesar's Palace. It'll be a beautiful blonde from back in the day. All right, so here it is. We'll get this queued up. You can take a walk down memory lane with Sir Francis of Tarkington.

[Fran Tarkington]

Sir Francis.

[Adam Carolla]

Sir Francis. All right, let's see if we can find this. This is Eldrick Tiger Woods.

[Fran Tarkington]

And Eldrick is an accomplished golfer. He wins tournaments on a regular basis and has shot close to par on 18 hole courses.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow. Five year old. Incredibly.

[Fran Tarkington]

Tiger here is only five years old on the team. We have the nine o' clock starting group.

[Adam Carolla]

There's his dad ever.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah, he's five years old. Eldrick Tiger Woods.

[Adam Carolla]

Tiger has the kind of poise and.

[Fran Tarkington]

Confidence that would be the envy of.

[Adam Carolla]

Most golfers 10 times his age. Wow. Get that form.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah. His knowledge of the game is truly amazing.

[Adam Carolla]

Tiger. All right. You know what's kind of weird in a weird way, watching this. It's sort of like those shows. That's incredible. And types of shows like that from back in the day were kind of a predecessor of YouTube. Like, you would watch it, you'd see these stories that you wouldn't normally see. It wasn't a sitcom and it wasn't a drama, but it was these kind of stories that now I find myself watching this kind of story on YouTube. But it was a big Show. I mean, it was a definitely top five show, right?

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah. I was doing Monday Night Football on Monday night and our show was on Monday night before that. And we filmed them, of course. And for me, I started doing all that because I was running businesses, but I was getting paid more money. They paid me $25,000 a show to do. That's incredible.

[Adam Carolla]

25, 000 a show.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yep. And we, and we did it for probably four or five years, about 20 shows a year.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Fran Tarkington]

And, and so, and, but I took that money to, to start my businesses and, and, and do that. So, you know, it's the way it was. And, and, but without, you know, to be a good football player, you got to start early to do anything. Well, you've got to start early. And if you're going to be in business and make it, make a mark and do something good, you got to start young. And I did start young. I had a paper route at age 7 in Washington D.C. and I kept on going and every off season I had jobs. I worked for the Coca Cola company. I worked for the trucking company. And then at age 25, I started my own businesses and, but my goal was same as it is in football. I, I, I, you know, people that, well, you're a great salesman. I'm a, I'm a, I don't sell anybody anything. I, I, in football, I didn't sell anybody anything about what I could do or couldn't do. And, and in business, you, you know, oh, you're a great salesperson. I may be a great salesperson, but I don't sell anybody anything. I tell, here's what we do and here's how we do it. And we think it'll make a difference in your company, but if it doesn't, don't do it. And like, we've got an AI product, pep iq. We've launched it out and it's doing great. But I tell the people, go to pipiq.com and see our stuff. Well, why don't you tell me what it does? I said I want you to go see it. They'll tell you what it, what it does. If it makes sense to you, come back and we'll talk to you. I don't want to, I don't want to sell anything. I don't want to talk somebody into doing something. And, and I got that from playing football. I was a quarterback. I called the plays. You're, but I use my linemen to tell me what kind of running plays to do. I use my wide receivers to tell me what kind of patterns they wanted to run. Teams win, individuals don't. And that's the same. And we know that in sports, but the same in business. If you think you got all the answers, you don't. And when you think you do have all the answers, you get hit.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, sorry. Remember that time we were talking about who shot that video of Evel Knievel crashing the bike that doesn't exist?

[Fran Tarkington]

Who was it?

[Mike Dawson]

I'm still looking.

[Adam Carolla]

I feel like it's super findable because it should be all over the Internet. But you've been looking the whole time.

[Mike Dawson]

No, Andrew's looking.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, but if you forget about it. Forget about it. But give me a note or something, because I bet you just typed that in and someone's name will come up. Sorry, Sir Francis, it's driving me nuts, and I think my guys may have forgotten to look it up.

[Mike Dawson]

Is it Linda Evans?

[Adam Carolla]

Linda Evans. Okay, so once you look for it, it's 15 seconds, right?

[Mike Dawson]

Good job.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. But don't forget to look for it. All right, Linda Evans, who's the other beautiful blonde from back in the day who was married to John Derek For a minute, it was Linda Evans, who. It's this super iconic footage of him going over the handlebars. But that was just the model wife of the guy. And he just handed her, like, a Super 8 camera and said, like, stand in the crowd. And that's the footage that we all remember. And I thought it was Kathie Lee. Cause I got my beautiful 80s, 90s, I got my 70s beautiful blondes mixed up, I think is what happened. How do you. How's. You're 85 years old, you're sharp as a tack. You seem like you're in great shape, but, you know, football can be real tough on the body. How are you physically?

[Fran Tarkington]

Well, yeah, I. I've got an artificial right shoulder. Oh.

[Adam Carolla]

Throwing.

[Fran Tarkington]

And I. I broke my shoulder when I was in my junior year of. Of high school. And they. They couldn't fix it back then, so they tried. And I. I could throw a ball 75 yards when I was 14 years old now.

[Adam Carolla]

75 yards.

[Fran Tarkington]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

14. That's it.

[Fran Tarkington]

That would be 15 and 16.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

That's a huge arm.

[Mike Dawson]

Yeah.

[Fran Tarkington]

But after I hurt my shoulder, I could. I was a baseball pitcher, and I was. And I was drafted by the Detroit Tigers out of high school, but I couldn't pitch anymore because of my shoulder. And I got my shoulder broken because I had a high school coach. We won a High school state championship. We beat everybody. I didn't throw any passes after the fifth year because at practice one day he has me doing tackling drills and I messed up my shoulder. All the rest of my pro life, they put all kind of stuff in my shoulder so I could play. But in my last years, I couldn't throw a football over 40 yards. And then when I retired two years after that, I had my right shoulder replaced. I don't think anybody's ever had that done. How I was able to do what I did in all college, high school and pro football and play 18 years. In all those years, I missed five games of playing that was in pro football. I don't know how I did it. And I went from 70, 75 yards of being a throw it. In high school and my last years of pro football, I couldn't throw it for 40 yards, but I laid the leg. I led the leg in yards game passing in my last year, not being able to throw the ball more than 40 yards.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Fran Tarkington]

Last year, what you do, you figure out a way to do it right. You figure out how to get by with it. But they couldn't fix it back back then. They tried, but I couldn't throw after they did it.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Mike Dawson]

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[Adam Carolla]

The holidays are brutal. So if you're feeling frugal TV stream Pluto TV. Stream Pluto TV for free. Stream blockbuster hits like 21 Jump Street Ted, the Expendables and so much more on Pluto TV. Stream now pay never. Oh, we have you throwing 75 in 75. Throwing a pretty good ball. Let's see. Let's take a look at you. I love those old Minnesota Viking uniforms. Just the best. And you know what, I'll tell you what, Let me make. Let's just watch a little footage of this and then I'll make an analogy. Steam coming out of the mouth, throwing a nice bullet. Oh, that. Yeah. Is that Sammy wife?

[Fran Tarkington]

No, that's John Gilliam.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, Gilliam was good.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah, John Gilliam. And he was really a good player.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah.

[Fran Tarkington]

We only had him 2 yards 2 years. He was really a good player. Then we had Sammy White. But then we had Ahmad Rashad.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, let me say this, I'll make this analogy. The old time football games, when you'd see the steam coming out of the mouth of the interior linemen, they're down in their stance. Chuck Foreman. All right, you can go back to Fran now. But seeing the steam come out of those guys mouths with the mud on their hands and everything, it was kind of the equivalent. We're not gonna really see those looks anymore where the guy's knuckles are covered with mud and there's steam pouring out of their mouth. And back in the day when you'd see a picture from the 30s or the 40s of a prize fight and it'd be black and white and all the guys in the front row be smoking cigars. And so there'd be this plume of smoke that was around the ring. And the pictures were so iconic because of the smoke and the texture that it added. And it gave a look that we can't, you know, we're never gonna recapture it because everything's digital, everything's color, there's no smoking. Right. So we're never gonna get that iconic 40s boxer photograph anymore. And we're never gonna have that NFL iconic steam coming out of the mouth, dirt on the knuckles game. We just, it's, it's all Astro turf and you know, dome stadiums. Everything's been temperature controlled and cleaned up. We're just. You're never going to have that look like the old time boxing match anymore.

[Fran Tarkington]

Well, also, back then I, I was competitive. Everybody was competitive. But I'd yell and scream at the big defensive lineman. I, I Just, I. I was nuts. I was crazy. But I'll give you one. Jack Youngblood was a great defensive end for the Rams. Yeah, the Rams were playing for the championship in Minneapolis, and we're, we're winning the game and we're coming down to. I was, I was gonna take a knee and. And earlier in the game, I missed the pass in Youngblood. He gave me a little life, you know, he said, yeah, yeah, buddy, you can't. You're not going to complete any passes today. This is not going to be your day. And he kept getting on me all day. This is like right around Christmas time. And so we're going back and forth and I'm yelling back at him, he's yelling at me. Now we're winning the game. And I'm kneeling down and he comes from defensive end all the way over trying to hit me and my center. McTangle hall hit him before me. And. But before, right after that, it was Christmas time and I said, hey, Jack, Merry Christmas. He never got over it. I've never talked to him again.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Fran Tarkington]

I had those. I had those things with Mean Joe Green and all the. These great players. I was nuts. I was crazy. I shouldn't have been so vocal, but it was my personality. It's what I did. And I love getting all the defensive linemen making them crazy. And I didn't mess their game up and they didn't kill me, but I got thrown. I was the first one of only two quarterbacks that got thrown out of the game. I'm playing against the New England Patriots in Minneapolis, and this guy playing defensive safety, I run for a touchdown from the five yard line, and he grabs me around my ankle and twists me up and throws me down.

[Adam Carolla]

Wait, hold on.

[Fran Tarkington]

I went crazy. I take the football still in my hand, and he's about 8 yards away from me, and I hit him right between the head and knocked him down. So he comes after me. I got film with that.

[Adam Carolla]

Wait a minute. You're five yards in the end zone, right?

[Fran Tarkington]

I'm. I've scored.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I know, I know, but you're five yards in the end zone when.

[Fran Tarkington]

He tacks me in the ankle.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah, I got you.

[Fran Tarkington]

So. So I go nuts. I look back at him and I take the football and I throw it and hit him right here. Knocked him down. He comes after me and he comes after me, but my. My protector was Mick Tingle off All Pro Center. Could have been a great boxer. And he's grabbing all their people off of me, but they throw me out of the game. There's only been two quarterbacks in the history of football that got thrown out of the game. But I got thrown out of that game. I played with passion every day.

[Adam Carolla]

Boy, I could never win this one if this was a trivia competition. The other quarterback to ever be kicked out of a game was Trent Dilfer.

[Fran Tarkington]

That's exactly right. He's the only guy.

[Adam Carolla]

I would have never guessed that in 100 million years. Trent Dilfer, who played for Casey. And is that Trent Diller?

[Fran Tarkington]

I remember Buccaneers, but I'm not sure who he played for.

[Adam Carolla]

It's either Casey or the Bucks. Buccaneers. I can't remember Trent Dilfer.

[Fran Tarkington]

I'm not sure which. Tampa Bay.

[Adam Carolla]

Tampa Bay.

[Fran Tarkington]

I didn't know about Trey Delver a couple of years ago because I never found out who. Anybody else that got kicked out.

[Adam Carolla]

It was Trent Dilfer playing for the Bucks. Tampa Bay playing against the Vikings.

[Fran Tarkington]

Against the Vikings. That was after my time, I guess, because I don't remember that.

[Adam Carolla]

It was definitely Trent Dilfer was. Yeah, 20 years after your time.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

But the thing that's funny about Jack Youngblood is they also had a linebacker named Jim Youngblood. So you got two guys who start on the defensive side of the ball with the last name of Youngblood, Young Blood, and you put J. Youngblood, and that's not going to be enough to distinguish the two. You had to put the full. I've never heard of a guy named Youngblood, but there were two of them on the Rams at the same time on the defensive side of the ball. Is there any footage of you throwing that ball at the safety for the Patriots?

[Fran Tarkington]

I've never. I've never. I've never seen it. But Jack Young was. Was a great, great player. And I'm. I wish he'd talk to me. I never tried to get him to talk to me. But we had an ongoing thing every time we played the Rams. He was a great player. No question about it. He was as good as it was during that era.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, they didn't have the kind of rules to protect the quarterbacks back then.

[Fran Tarkington]

No, we had no. We had no rules.

[Adam Carolla]

No rules, no rules. And I mean, the kind of hits they were delivering to guys going over the middle, the receivers, I mean, what the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Raiders, the kind of forearm shivers they would lay out on these guys going over the center were unbelievable. But the quarterbacks, I mean, to make it 18 years pre any of those rules to protect that quarter. No late hits, no low hits, no nothing.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah, we had no protection. In my 18 years of pro football, I played four years of college football. I played four years of high school football. I missed five games in all those years. And I made it on a day. We played the Cincinnati Bengals, and we. We qualified for the playoffs. And a guy for them broke my ankle. And I thought I could. It was four weeks before we go to the playoffs, and my doctor said, go in the pool and walk in the pool and maybe that would get your. Your ankles. It didn't work. I couldn't. I couldn't run or play. So I didn't play in the playoffs that year. And we got beat by the. By the Cowboys in the first playoff game.

[Adam Carolla]

We have the video of you rushing the ball and throwing the ball at the guy.

[Fran Tarkington]

I think that was Mean Joe Green, maybe, huh?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. You got the Patriots. We got the Patriots.

[Fran Tarkington]

Oh, the big Patriots. That's the one you have. That's the defensive back.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, that.

[Fran Tarkington]

I threw the ball, hit him, and that's when the dinner was a free for all. And I. I'd have been killed, but Tanglehoff threw them all off of me. Yeah, Here it is.

[Adam Carolla]

Right?

[Fran Tarkington]

Watch this.

[Adam Carolla]

Get.

[Fran Tarkington]

I'm caught. See?

[Adam Carolla]

I'm in the end zone, way in the end zone.

[Fran Tarkington]

And you don't get to see him hit me in the back. But he did.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, he did. He hit you in the back. You guys are.

[Fran Tarkington]

I. I throw the ball.

[Adam Carolla]

You guys.

[Fran Tarkington]

It's a free for all.

[Adam Carolla]

It's a melee that goes by, guys.

[Fran Tarkington]

Isn't that great?

[Adam Carolla]

Gotta love Mick Tingle off, man.

[Fran Tarkington]

Oh, God, he was so big. Tinglehoff was my best friend, my center, and he kept me out of trouble.

[Adam Carolla]

Huh? Let's watch that one more time. Yeah, you run. You're. You're way past a touchdown. Way takes a swing at. He doesn't tackle you, but he swings at your back. He hits your arm, I guess.

[Fran Tarkington]

Well, his ankle hit my ankle.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, is that what it now? What it was?

[Fran Tarkington]

Now we're fighting. Here we go. Here we go.

[Adam Carolla]

That's so funny.

[Fran Tarkington]

You've never seen that in this day and time.

[Adam Carolla]

53.

[Fran Tarkington]

Is Tingle off?

[Adam Carolla]

No. You know what? But back in the day, I do kind of remember this footage because it was such a novelty. Also seeing you because you always seemed like you were a little undersized and you were always running for your life, so it always seemed. You seemed mild mannered to me because it seemed like you were trying to escape from these giants who were trying to kill you. So the idea that you would fight them was sort of Sort of crazy.

[Fran Tarkington]

I'll give you another one while we watch this. Being Joe Green, I played against him as a rookie in Yankee Stadium. I love being Joe Green. He was great. Biggest, toughest guy going. And I'm ragging on him during the game. Me and Joe. You can't. You'll never catch me. Too bad for this, too bad for that. Well, I run out of bounds. He follows me out of bounds, and he hits me, knocks my helmet off. Eight, eight yards out of bounds. And. And he did knock me out. And I said. I said, mean Joe, they go, throw your ass out of this game. And they did.

[Adam Carolla]

All right.

[Mike Dawson]

Yeah.

[Fran Tarkington]

And I love Mean Joe. He was. He was something else.

[Adam Carolla]

He.

[Fran Tarkington]

Before Mean Joe got to Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh won nothing. They were original team in the late 30s, 40s. They won nothing. Mean Joe came to that team. Power, I think, was the coach. He was the. He was the catalyst for that team. They had great players, but he was the greatest of the players they had.

[Adam Carolla]

Wait a minute. Cower wasn't the coach.

[Fran Tarkington]

He wasn't Cower when the coach. Who was it?

[Adam Carolla]

No, he came. Came later. Chuck Knowles. Chuck.

[Fran Tarkington]

No, that's right. And. But they had great team. Terry Bradshaw played great, a great quarterback. They had great players. They had an all pro defensive line, all pro linebackers. But Mean Joe was a catalyst. He was a bad guy. Bad guy in a good way. Tougher. Tougher than nails.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, I'm from la, and I could probably name nine or ten of the starting defensive players from the Pittsburgh Steelers from the 70s. LC Greenwood, Wagner, Jack Ham, Jack Splat, obviously Mean Joe, Donnie Shell, Mel Blunt. Like, I'm a guy living in North Hollywood, California, and it's the late 70s, and I could name the starting defense for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I didn't even know where Pittsburgh was. I couldn't find Pittsburgh on a map. I probably couldn't find Pennsylvania on a map. And I mean a map with the name. The name's on it. I still couldn't find it, but I could name their starting defensive lineup from back then. Like, that's how iconic that team was.

[Fran Tarkington]

Their 11 defensive guys were all pros. They were. They were phenomenal. They could. They could really play. And. But being Joe, I thought being Joe was the catalyst. I think he was. He was great. But Bradshaw was a big, strong quarterback. As I said, Pittsburgh. I don't think Pittsburgh in the 40s and 50s won anything. And, and, and Bradshaw was bigger than most quarterbacks. Big guy, big arm. And, and he could. He could really play. He could really play. Then they had an All Pro to every position. They really did.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if those days are going to. If we're going to be able to.

[Fran Tarkington]

Establish they don't have it now.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I mean, not only that, but how long could you keep a defense or an offense together with all pros at every position before somebody got lured away for money? I mean, how long could you have Jack Lambert, Donnie Shell, Mel Blunt, Jack Hampton had all those guys in one place? Somebody would get lured away. Now, what kind of guy was Bud Grant? He seems very iconic. He was, you know, he was a coach that looked like the team he was coaching. The guy looked like a Viking.

[Fran Tarkington]

I know. And he wasn't that way. I'll tell you. I played for Grant for six or seven years. I love Bud Grant. He was a great coach, great human being, but he was not like any other coach. Coach I played in. In games with. Lombardi, coached me in an All Star Game. Don Shul, I played for an All Star Game. Tom Landry, all these great coaches. I said, this is Nick Saban a few months ago. You know. You know what they had in common? Nothing. They were uniquely their own self. They didn't copy each other. They. They were their. They were authentic people, and that's why they got to be what they were. Totally different. And Bud Grant. I learned more from Bud Grant than anybody up until his death a year or two ago. I talked to him once a month. Every time he opened his mouth, it made sense. He wasn't a guy that was. That had a 200 IQ, I wouldn't guess, but he was the smartest human being I've ever known. He never raised his voice. He made my time. I got to play for him my last six years, and those are the best six years of my life. But I never left him, and he never left me. And the Vikings, the great franchise as it is, we went to four of the first 11 Super Bowls, and Bud Grant coached them all. I played in three of them, but they have not gone to a Super bowl since, what, 1976 was the last one. Haven't been to the Super Bowl.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, they went to four. The first 11, huh?

[Fran Tarkington]

For the first 11. I didn't get to play in the first when I was still in New York. Joe Cap was the quarterback. He was a great character.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Fran Tarkington]

And so Bud was the coach of all of them. But since then, we've never gone to a Super bowl since those four years.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, so Bud was an 0 and 4 Super Bowl. Coach. Same as Levy. Right. Of the Bill.

[Fran Tarkington]

I don't know about Levy, but we were leaving.

[Adam Carolla]

The Bill's coach was 0 and 4, too. I mean, they had the same coach throughout. Well.

[Fran Tarkington]

The quarterback at Buffalo lost three Super Bowls, too. You remember him?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, he lost four Super Bowls. Jim. Jim Kelly.

[Fran Tarkington]

Jim Kelly. I think he lost three, but maybe he lost four.

[Adam Carolla]

He was quarterback for all four of them.

[Fran Tarkington]

Yeah, anyway.

[Adam Carolla]

I think so.

[Fran Tarkington]

Anyway, I see Jim Kaley. I think he was three, but anyway, I see Jim Kelly at the hall of Fame. I said, kelly. And Peyton Manning was there. I said I met him first. I said, kelly, you're my favorite quarterback of all time.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Fran Tarkington]

More than Peyton and more than John United. I said, yep, the both. He said, why? I said, because you lost more quarterback. He lost more Super Bowls than I did.

[Adam Carolla]

He did.

[Fran Tarkington]

That's right. He lost four.

[Adam Carolla]

He lost four. And Marv.

[Fran Tarkington]

He lost more Super Bowls than I did.

[Adam Carolla]

And Marv Levy. Marv Levy lost four as a coach. So Bud Grant and Marv are the only. But all great coaches. Fran, it was great speaking to you. Let me give you a plug one more time. Pipiq. Pipiq.com is where you go. This is like taking a walk down memory lane for me, thinking about all those days watching all that football and always Fran Tarkington and then Monday Night Football. More Fran Tarkington, and then that's incredible. And more Fran Tarkington. So I feel like this has been a little walk down memory lane for me.

[Fran Tarkington]

Well, thank you, Adam. It was really good to talk to you, and I hope your people will go to our pipiq.com stuff because. And see if our stuff's any good. It is. And give us a call.

[Adam Carolla]

Fran's not a salesman. You just go there. If it's good, it's good. The great Fran Tarkington. Sir Francis of Tarkington.

[Fran Tarkington]

Sir Francis.

[Adam Carolla]

Thanks, buddy.

[Fran Tarkington]

Appreciate it.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, Sir Francis of Tarkington. All right, this Friday, Santa Barbara, Santa Barbara Comedy Club. That'll be me doing a show over there. And then the 6th of December, that'll be Saturday. That's right. Corona, California, Dos Lagos Amphitheater with Jay Moore. Then off to Florida, Fort Lauderdale, Miami Improv, Fort Lauderdale. You go to AdamCrolo.com for all the live shows. Until next time, it's Adam Corolla for Fran Tarkington saying, Mahala, you can leave.

[Mike Dawson]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Fran Tarkington]

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[Adam Carolla]

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