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GERMAN SWAT TEAM APPREHEND MEME CREATOR + ZACHARY LEVI + KEITH CARRADINE
02:08:43
Adam kicks off the show with actor Zachary Levi, diving into his latest film The Unbreakable Boy, the benefits of therapy, and reflections on their parents. Next, actor Keith Carradine stops by to discuss his new film The Devil and the...
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Adam Corolla
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Zachary Levi
Auto parts on this episode, Zachary Levi, great actor and good friend, joins us. Also, Keith Carradine of the Carradines is on as well. Mayhem's doing news and we'll do all that right after this.
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Jason Mayhem Miller
From Corolla One Studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Corolla Show. Adam's guest today, actors Zachary Levi and Keith Carradine. Plus the news and trending topics with Jason Mayhem Miller. And now that plane in Toronto might not have flipped over if they had some lemons on it.
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Zachary Levi
Just saying. Adam Corolla, Yeah, get it on, man. Excited to talk to my old friend Zachary Levi, who I ran into at the Costner Horizon Part 2 movie premiere a couple of weeks ago. Good to see you, Zachary.
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Keith Carradine
Good to see you, too, Adam. How are you?
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Zachary Levi
I'm well as well as well can be considering, you know, I'm at a, at a, at a stage in life when some people might think about retiring. And then I got divorced and then my condo in Malibu was devastated and I'm now sleeping on Dr. Drew's sofa. So it's been a little bit of a change of pace for me, but I'm stoic about it.
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Keith Carradine
Silver linings, finding stoicism in the midst of all the chaos.
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Zachary Levi
Yes.
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Keith Carradine
Also, I heard Dr. Drew's got a.
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Zachary Levi
Great couch, so he's a good spooner, as I've said. And no, it's heartwarming to have all the people come out of the woodwork and offer you up their home. That is nice. Yeah, it's sort of.
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Keith Carradine
Yeah, that's always. Yeah, it's a good, it's a good reminder. Oftentimes, I think we all can sit in our, I guess more down or darker, more negative moments and wonder sometimes, like, who does have my back or who does love me or like whatever that is. But when tragedy does strike, there can be this incredible awakening even in you of like, wow, these people have me. They have, like, they'll catch me. They'll catch me if I fall. Essentially, you know, it's straight up Cyndi Lauper. Like, they're there. And that can be very heartening in the midst of all of it. So I'm glad that you've been Feeling that.
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Zachary Levi
Well, you know, most people have this fantasy about sort of attending their own funeral and hearing all the wonderful things that are said about you, but you're gone. You know what I mean?
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Keith Carradine
Yeah.
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Zachary Levi
And so we'll never have that experience. But the second closest thing to that experience is having your home burned down because you're still alive. But everyone is still reaching out, saying, you know what? Come stay with me. It's almost like experiencing your own funeral, like hearing the kind words, you know, I had Kimmel reach out immediately. Drew reached out. Attorney Mark Garagos reached out. Lots of people just reached out and said, come stay with me. Which is, again, it's not quite a death, but it's the death of you having a place to go. And it's like hearing a eulogy about you, which is wonderful. The movie the Unbreakable Boy, it is out February 21st, so it's not in theaters. I watched a trailer which was very good. I got a preview of the whole movie that was sent to me last night while I was sitting on Dr. Drew's couch. And I tried to watch it, but it had no sound. Just you. Opening scene, party, wedding, drinking too much champagne, all silent. And then at some point, I realized there's no sound that went along with this. So then I watched a trailer which looked very compelling.
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Keith Carradine
Well, I'm bummed that you didn't get the version with sound, although the version without sound is very avant garde. It was something we were going for. Hopefully people will fill in the blanks. No, it's definitely supposed to have sound, and hopefully you'll either get a better link for you to watch or, you know, if you find yourself looking for a movie to go see in the theater, would love you to actually go see it in the theater when it does come out February 21st. It's a very special movie, ma'am. It's. It's very grounded. It's very slice of life. It's a true story about a real family navigating lots of. Just the human story. What it means to, you know, dig into and. And. And. And work through relationship, through marriage, through having children, through having a child with autism, which is something that is very ubiquitous at this point. Almost everyone in this world either, you know, is touched by autism in some way. Either they have it, their kids have it, their friends have it, their friends, kids have it. And I think that this story is a really beautiful representation of that world. And it's real and it's heartfelt, but it's also heart wrenching. There's a lot of. There's a lot of, like, grit and darkness that. That particularly my character Scott, has to navigate through to get to the other side to learn what it means to actually accept himself and love himself so that he can love and accept his. His son. And his son helps him on that journey, to get to that. That radical acceptance and that radical love. So it's powerful, man. That's. Honestly. I mean, I'm very proud of nearly everything I've ever been a part of, but I'm particularly proud of this film. And I think it's something that people really need. You know, there's. There's lots of other things to entertain us with, lots of other movies and whatnot. But. But films like this that are, you know, they're. The whole family can watch it, and it's entertaining for the whole family. There's some stuff that will be more adult themed, that'll be, you know, over a kid's head. But by and large, it's something that I think will keep the entire audience, you know, attentive and resonating with it.
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Zachary Levi
Well, I know these sorts of themes are important to you, and you've written books on them, and I don't know if you would say you struggle with mental illness or you think about mental illness or. I guess it's a fine line between having a fascination with something and. Or struggling with that. But it's a subject that's important to you.
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Keith Carradine
Oh, yeah, no, listen. I have very much struggled with mental illness throughout my life. I think that. I think one of the most important things we need to do, and we're doing a good job of it, I think, as a society to destigmatize mental illness and mental health at large is recognizing that mental illness, you know, for the longest time and, you know, this, like movies in the 70s and the 80s, even the 90s, if there was a character that went to a therapist, it was like, oh, they must be a little wacko, you know, oh, they're going to the shrink, you know, like, it was always a joke. It was never really something that was taken seriously. And I think that's in part because mental illness and mental health wasn't really understood all that well until, honestly, like, the last 20, really, 10 years. And we're starting to understand that mental illness is like dental illness. Everybody gets a cavity here and there. Everybody's got something that they're working through, which is why with our mental illness, we need to mentally floss and mentally brush our brains and our hearts and like work through not just trauma from a long time ago, which a lot of us still carry around and aren't, aren't realizing it, but even the everyday things that go on, handling your stress, handling your anxiety, handling your fear, handling your depression, your sadness, I mean there's, there's all of these things, these are universal. There's not a single human on earth that is somehow, you know, incapable of suffering through some of that, even a little bit of that. And that's still mental illness. Mental illness goes from, you know, again to make a physical comparison, anywhere from cancer to the common cold. Hopefully you're only dealing with some version of mental illness that's like the common cold. It's like a little thing. You're dealing with some anxiety, you can work through it, you're good. But some people have really deep mental illness that is like a cancer in them. And they are no less valuable as human beings. They are no less loved by God. We've got to be able to hold all of that spectrum. And having gone through lots of different trauma throughout my life, things that I was unaware of, things that I needed a lot of healing from, I had a mental breakdown at 37. I didn't want to live and I didn't know why. And I was blessed enough to be able to go to this really wonderful place in, in, in, in Connecticut and I got three weeks of the most intensive life saving therapy. And it literally, it did save my life. And I learned in that moment as a 37 year old man that I'd never loved myself like actually just or even liked myself that much. I never thought that. I wasn't actively thinking like you're an idiot or well, rather I didn't think I was. But then when you start actually, you know, breaking down, what's your self talk like? I don't know what your self talk like is like but for me, anytime I'd screw up in a way or I didn't accomplish this or whatever it was, I was constantly beating myself up in my head, you idiot. I can't believe it, you know. But that's all because that's what I was hearing from my parents and that's because that's what they were hearing from their parents and so on and so forth. It's generational trauma, it's a real thing. So you got to be able to reprogram that stuff and then you can beat yourself up a lot less and have more grace with yourself, more patience, more kindness, more love. And in doing that it really transforms you as a human being so that you are a better vessel to then go and be more patient, kind, loving with everyone else.
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Zachary Levi
Yeah, I'm trying to think. We have to figure out where you come from. I sort of come from nothing. So my internal monologue is nothing most of the time, even though I'm also included in the nothing. So it's sort of. It's not low self esteem, it's no self esteem. No, self esteem isn't bad per se, it's just nothing. Whereas low self esteem is low. I know it sounds convoluted, but it's always sort of felt that way because I come from nothing.
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Keith Carradine
No, I actually understand what you're saying. I think that there's a difference in coming from a family that. Well, listen, I mean, my family didn't have much. We were a lower middle income family for a lot of my life and it wasn't something. You know, there are other people that come from a lot. Right. They're trolling.
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Zachary Levi
I want you to. Sorry, just to be clear, there is a sort of monetary a lot. Like there's people have a lot. They got cars and they got big houses and they go on vacations and stuff. And then there's people that don't come from much financially, but they have a lot. They have a lot of engagement, a lot of, you know, playing catch with your dad at the park is free. It doesn't matter what your tax bracket is. If you did a lot of stuff where your dad threw you the ball, went down to the park and so on and so forth, then that is a lot. I come from sort of nothing on both ends of the spectrum financially, but sort of spiritually nothing. But I just want to make sure we're not talking about something sort of financial.
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Keith Carradine
Yeah, no. Well, I think it's. A lot of times it's to your point. I mean, there are two sides of a coin, right? They can both be a part of what we're talking about. In your case, you're talking about both financially and. Did you not have a dad around? Was that kind of part of your experience?
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Zachary Levi
He was around. He was just on the sofa reading a book and didn't go outside kind of thing. So I just entertained myself. But I didn't get any overt abuse. I got sort of neglect. Mine was sort of benign neglect, which is its own form of abuse. But it wasn't. That guy would go into a drunken rage kind of stuff. But I don't know, when you talk about your past, what we're talking about exactly?
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Keith Carradine
Well, it was a lot of psychological abuse. It wasn't physical abuse. But my mother, though she was never fully diagnosed or even diagnosed because she never went to go and really seek the help that I think that she does desperately needed. My mother was abused by her mother, was put down relentlessly, psychologically abused relentlessly.
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Zachary Levi
My mother was the same. Same with her mother, yeah, very aggressive.
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Keith Carradine
And so in that my mom did not know how to heal herself of that. And that unfortunately carried out in her, you know, carried on in her life and spewed out of her onto me and my sisters. My mom, I would probably, if I had to take a guess, was probably a borderline personality with narcissistic tendencies. My father was not in my life. My father, he and my mother divorced when I was very young and he lived many, many, many, many hundreds, if not ultimately thousands of miles away on the East Coast. I would see him for a couple of weeks a year. You know, I knew he loved me, but there was a kind of a non existence in that relationship with my father and my stepfather, who was in my life a lot. We did not really have a relationship. And he was also had these narcissistic tendencies, I think again ingrained in him because of his relationship with his father, who was a taskmaster and was really harsh and very critical of him. So I had these two unattainable missions with my stepfather. It was like the bar was so high, I could never get there. And with my mom, it wasn't a bar that was too high. It was this moving target. With borderline personalities, you just never know. Whatever mood that they're in is going to determine how they react to whatever you tell them. If I came home and my mom was in a good mood and I said, hey, I got into a fight at school and she, she'd be like, oh, honey, are you okay? You know, whatever. Like, you know, let's work through this. If she was in a bad mood, you fucking idiot. I can't believe. Why would you do that? You're making us look, you know, there was, there was. It was not a safe place for me to be as a kid. I did not feel. I did not feel safe. I did not feel like. So eventually you just stop telling your parents anything. You're just dealing with everything on your own. I would say, even though you may not have gotten that type of, let's say, psychological abusive experience while you were growing up, neglect, as you were pointing out, is in fact its own type of an abuse. Did your dad think that he was doing that to you? Absolutely not. Our parents are doing the best they can with the tools they have that were given to them by their parents, you know, so we've got to have grace and all of that. But also, if you've never talked to a therapist, I'd recommend it. Like it's something that can help you to work through things that you're not even aware that you're still going through.
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Zachary Levi
Well, it's interesting, you and I have a lot of similarities in our past and that I realized that I couldn't talk to these people about anything and they didn't really understand whatever I understood. And I wasn't going to get them to be interested in anything I was interested in. And so thus you're sort of on your own. And there's a vulnerability, kind of a fear of feeling like I gotta protect myself or I'm gonna take care of myself. Cause these people aren't going to do that for me. And for me it was like I said, there was a spiritual side if they're not gonna do anything. But also they don't have any money or anything they can compensate with. So it's sort of 0 for 2 in the taking care of yourself department. I don't know. Now, see, this is an interesting concept or crossroads here, in that many people are charitable and they say your dad or your stepdad or your mom or your stepmom or whatever, they were doing the best they could. Now, you're right in the sense that they did what they did and that's what they did. And so it's hard to argue with that's what they did. I don't think my dad or my mom would say they were doing the best they could. And I'm a parent and I do. Sometimes when it's like you want to go to your daughter's volleyball game in Orange county and sit there for nine hours watching 12 year olds play volleyball. And then at some point, at some point, she'll jump in like the night before, and she'll go, joanne's mom is gonna pick us up so you don't have to drive us. And I'll go, oh, okay. And they'll go, yeah, you can show up later, like noon, and watch a few games. And I'll go, okay. And there's a part of me that knows I should set my alarm for six in the morning and drive them. That would be the best, the best I could. But I also am thinking about me and I'm a little bit selfish and I want to sleep in and blah, blah, blah. So I don't think either one of my parents would say, I did the best I could. They did what they did, and they didn't do it without any malice in their heart. But if you would have given my dad 100 bucks and said, get off the sofa and go play catch with your son, he would have got up and gone out to the yard. So he was, like, capable. So I think there's some sort of balance to strike between forgiveness, knowing how they grew up especially. But also, keep in mind, you grew up that way, and I grew up that way, and I in no way reflect that attitude with my kids. So there is such a thing as growing up one way and actually being another way as an adult.
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Keith Carradine
Absolutely. And listen, we are all called to continue to challenge ourselves, to be better versions of ourselves. Right. It doesn't mean just relax and rest on your laurels and be like, well, this is who I am and that's it, and I'm not going to even try. So clearly it's not that. But I would say a couple of things. One, I do think the general generational trauma or instincts or behaviors, they. They kind of half life almost, right? So your parents gave you, you know, whatever this portion of. Of whatever they could give you or gave you, but you're gonna. You're gonna take half of the bad away from that and do twice the good and give that to your kids, and they're gonna take half that bad away, hopefully, and do twice the good and bring that to their kids. So it's bound to evolve. We either instinctually, as humans, you either. And they've done studies on this, you either emulate what your parents were almost to a T, or you rebel against it almost entirely. Very rarely, people find a medium in it where they only. They take the good that they got and they get rid of the bad, and then they bring more good, and then it's like a perfect balance. It's difficult, but that's also. We're also capable of doing that through working on ourselves, being aware of these things. But going back to the point of, were your parents, my parents, you, me, about to be a parent, are we doing the best that we can? What I would say is your instinct or this feeling in you of, like, not being. Just jumping out of your seat to want to go to your daughter's volleyball game. Right. First of all, there's already grace in that, because you got a lot going on and life is tough and you're juggling a lot of Things, whatever. But let me pose this to you. Perhaps if your dad showed more interest in getting up off the couch and playing catch with you or doing those things and being more involved in your life, don't you think at this point in your life you would be more excited and inclined to want to jump off the couch and go to your daughter's volleyball match? I would say that you would. I would say that part of the reason why you struggle with that is because that was not something that was modeled to you in a really strong and healthy way when you were younger. Does that absolve your father from being not as involved? Not at all. Does it absolve you from struggling with that thing? No. We're still responsible for who we are and what we do. But we have to be willing to look at the evidence of where all those breadcrumbs go, because I think in that, that's how we work through it. If you can get to a point where you go, well, okay, why is it that I resist this? What is it that I'm resisting? What is this thing in me that kind of, you know, doesn't just jump up and go, like, absolutely, babe, let's go down to that volleyball game. It's not just because you're lazy. It's not just because you don't value that or value her or. No, there are other things that play in your heart and mind. This is why I think going and talking to a professional is so awesome, because hopefully you found someone that is really good at their job. There's a lot of therapists that are not, but there's a lot of therapists that are really good at it. And they are disinterested third parties that help you to just break through, walk through certain things and be like, hey, maybe this or maybe that. Have you looked at this? Have you looked at that? And in doing that, when you don't have somebody, that's biased. That's why friends and family can only go so far. You can only talk to friends and family about things up to a point, because at some point, they have agenda, they have bias. It's inescapable. But a disinterested third party can be able to help work through things. And I think ultimately, I don't know, you might find, if you go and examine that, examine how you felt abandoned as a kid and you muscled through it and you made it happen, maybe that leads to feeling a little more release from that past. And maybe you feel a little more like, yeah, let's go to that Volleyball game? Who knows? I have no idea.
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Zachary Levi
Well, I am more in the category of do the opposite of what my parents would do. So it's not a modeling thing. It's a sort of probably built in selfishness that just you just. All human beings just kind of want to sleep in, you know what I mean? Like given a choice between sleeping in and getting up at 5:30, most people just want to sleep in. So it's a giving away to the selfishness. There's also an interesting aspect that's like a societal aspect, which is I grew up playing sports in Pop Warner football, Little League baseball and then later high school. But the commitment for my parents if in fact they wanted to attend a East Valley Trojans Pop Warner football game, which my mom wouldn't attend, but my dad sporadically attended. But the commitment was Saturday home game, North Hollywood High. They live in North Hollywood. Very short drive, possibly walk to the high school and then the commitment would be from noon to 1:30 and then you would go home. The new world order is drive to Orange county from wherever you are in the San Fernando Valley. First game starts at 8am Kid needs to be there at 7am and at 3:30 that same day we'll be figuring out whether we're going into the quarterfinals or not. Which means literally door to door, you're talking about a 14 hour pilgrimage. And so some of it isn't just how you were raised or how they were raised. Some of it is like a practical thing which is people are going, we're going to Arizona for the soccer tournament. It's like we're getting on an airplane. Yes. We're getting a hotel. Yes. How many days we're gonna be in Arizona? Depends how many games they win. Could be three days, you know. Well that's not walking to North Hollywood High on a Saturday and being out of there in 90 minutes. So some of it is just not emotional, it's like literally pragmatic. And they've raised the bar so insanely high on like kids sports that you end up being a bad parent sometimes. Cuz you go, I'm not taking a flight to Arizona to watch 9 year olds play soccer. I have a job, you know, like I can't do it. And then at some point you're gonna experience this. Your wife will go, well, Tom Dillon's dad is coming and you'll go like okay. But he doesn't have it. He doesn't have to be somewhere. I'm working Sunday night, you know. They go, well the other dads are Going now, they've essentially, like, built in an argument to your relationship, because God forbid you don't take the flight to Arizona, then you're the parent who's not there. And also the kid is like, well, my mom would go to the game in Arizona, but my dad never came. Yeah, but there's a part where your dad was on set and he was providing money so that you could afford the flight to Arizona. It's getting a little cathartic, but you know what I'm saying?
- [26:14]
Keith Carradine
No, no, bring it, Bring it. I love it. Let's work through it. If you're not gonna go see a therapist, at least talk to me. Listen, you're not wrong. There are so many variables that are so different now, particularly in sports. I mean, there are full studies that have been done about traveling teams. Like, there's a lot, particularly in the Midwest or really even in California. But, like, if you want your kid to. They show an interest in baseball, in football, whatever. Well, now, it used to be that they would play school ball and they would be scouted by a college, and then they maybe get scouted and go to the pros. But now there's so many of these, like, these club teams and traveling teams and all this stuff. Well, if you want your kid to have a chance, they got it. They got to stay competitive, and they got. And so families end up getting totally broken up because you have one parent. Oftentimes one parent's working, the other one's doing the traveling. You know, there's no time to just be a family. It's all centered around this traveling circus of sports. So, absolutely, those are variables that are new to the world that we're in now. But one last thing before we move on, just. Just to go back to, which is, as you mentioned, there is a selfishness that is in you, right? There's a selfishness that's all of us. But where does the selfishness come from? It comes from self preservation. It comes from survival. At the. At the end of the day, we. These are conditioned things because we needed to figure out how to. You needed to figure out how to survive, how to be by yourself, doing things by yourself. That gets ingrained in us. And so I think that, again, you know, in a vacuum. But imagine having parents that were so involved, where you didn't have to feel like you needed to save yourself and save your time and save your energy and do what you did in order to just keep making it through. There may be a different outcome to how you see things right now. Perhaps, you know what I mean?
- [28:06]
Zachary Levi
100%. And there is a balance because I have had roommates whose parents did way too much shit for them and they're the worst roommates ever. They literally make a five course meal the night before, fill the sink with dishes, and the next day at 1:00 they're just watching TV in the living room, the huge pile of dishes. And you go in and you go, you want me to wash those dishes? And they go, yeah, would you? And they go back to watching tv. I've had those roommates, they're the worst roommates. So it's like you can kind of overdo it in the my little king doesn't wash dishes department. And I've had a few of those worst roommates ever. Best roommates, low self esteem roommates. Those are the good guys. Those are the, those are the, those are the best ones.
- [29:00]
Keith Carradine
Listen, absolutely, you can absolutely spoil your children and that is not a good thing to do.
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Zachary Levi
They, yeah, but there's a balance of.
- [29:07]
Keith Carradine
Not spoiling them, teaching them good, you know, morals, good values, holding them accountable, teaching them they're responsible for who they are and what they do. And also they are entirely loved.
- [29:18]
Zachary Levi
I would also argue that there's a lot of talk about teaching them this stuff. And I'm much more in the camp of showing them this stuff, like work. Show them I loved. My kids are 19 now, but are turning 19. But one of my greatest joys was sort of like bringing them to work with me, especially even on the road on occasion, like showing up, meeting the club owner, the theater owner, setting up, you know, sending them out to help sell the merch, showing that, you know, downtime in between shows. Now we're doing a second show, we're coming back tomorrow for two shows, like really showing them this is what goes on, this is how you conduct yourself and perks. They'll bring you food, you can order whatever you want off the thing. But then in between shows you're going to go man the merch table and see if we can make a little cash that way, in the way you act, the way you interact, the way you treat your spouse, the way they treat you, the way you treat the pool man or the gardener. Just, just the kind of a, they're sponges. You can sit and lay out all the lessons you want, but ultimately they just sit and watch. And when they see you, you know, if you went in there and said, look, you gotta be honest. And then when you're checking out the hotel go, you know, the Bed wasn't made when I showed up, so if you could knock off 20 bucks, that'd be awesome. And your son looked at you and went, the bed was fine. See if we can get to 20. That's the way. We can't do it. Oh, I'm getting a note that says you're. I wanted to talk to you about a couple other things, but I think your people are saying maybe you gotta run somewhere. The Unbreakable Boy.
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Keith Carradine
But listen. But also, I've been talking to Mike, and I'm hoping to do one of your live shows with you at some point later so we can talk about.
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Zachary Levi
That would be. That would be awesome. Sorry, I thought we had an hour. That's fine. We'll catch up on stage, we'll do a live show, and you can come back on. I mean, listen, you don't need a movie to plug. There's plenty for us to discuss, obviously. Zachary Levi, the unbreakable boy. Theaters February 21st. So good that I watch 15 minutes with no sound. That's how. That's how good this was.
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Keith Carradine
It's like a build your own movie. You get to add all your own sound effects and music. You get to do your own dubbing. It's a lot of fun if you think about it.
- [32:07]
Zachary Levi
It's always funny because the very opening scene, I'm not giving anything away, but it's kind of a party scene where you're drinking and having a good time. And for the first two minutes when it was silent, I'm like, okay, is this a choice? Cause it's an interesting choice that all this is going on, but yet there's silence. Maybe they're making a statement that I'm aware of, but when I got to minute 11, I was like, I don't think this is a creative.
- [32:34]
Keith Carradine
Yeah, that's a long, boring choice right there. If it's 11 minute.
- [32:38]
Zachary Levi
All right, Zachary, good talking to you, my friend. We'll talk soon. We'll be on stage soon. We'll have a good time, and congratulations on the baby that's on the way.
- [32:48]
Keith Carradine
Thanks, brother. Great seeing you. And I'll talk to you soon.
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Zachary Levi
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Zachary Levi
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Zachary Levi
Keith Carradine has joined me. Yes. Those famous Carradines. Brothers. Half brothers. Robert. Full brother. David Carradine.
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Adam Corolla
David, also a half brother. Same father, different mothers. Bobby and I are full brothers.
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Zachary Levi
Oh, so Robert and you are full brothers. Maybe I misread this or maybe somebody miswrote it, but either way. Yeah. Known about the Carradines for a million years. The new movie, the Devil and the Day Long Brothers is. Well, here's the question. Where is it right now? That's another thing they should have put on here.
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Adam Corolla
Well, it's out. You can stream it on Apple plus you can stream it on Google Play.
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Zachary Levi
Or you can find it in the theater.
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Adam Corolla
There are some theaters you can find it in. I'm not sure where those are. It'll be a pretty limited release. It's also on Fandango. It's out there.
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Zachary Levi
It's out there and. Or you can.
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Adam Corolla
It's out there waiting to be discovered.
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Zachary Levi
So we say. Sorry, Hulu, let me just make sure I got. Or put it on my screen with your goofballs. Where's the plug? That's a Andrew plug. Gotta have it. All right, so you. First of all, I did not know. And so this movie is a musical sort of. What are we calling it?
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Adam Corolla
They're calling it a Southern gothic musical. That is a descriptor which I have never heard describe a film. When I heard that description of this at first and I saw a short that they made basically of a song done in the style that they were going to do the film in, I thought I want to be in this. I've never seen this before. It's a Southern gothic. So it's about a dark tale. It's sort of the underbelly of the Bible belt, if you will. And it's biblical in its story. Three boys, sons of mine whose souls I sold to the devil before they were born. It was a crossroads moment. It was like a Robert Johnson moment for my character where this guy wanted to be a great blues singer. He sells his soul as well as the souls of all of his progeny to the devil. These kids come into being, they're already damned. And they spend the movie in a quest to find Diro dad and take care of him which will then enable them to get redemption and perhaps retrieve their lost souls from the underworld.
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Zachary Levi
I saw the trailer. It is action packed. It looks like it has a full budget. Like it does not look like they're.
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Adam Corolla
Cutting it could not have been less of a full budget. This is one of the things you made it.
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Zachary Levi
They made it look like it had a big budget.
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Adam Corolla
No, no, it looks fantastic. And this has been five years since we shot this and. Oh really? And these guys have been working on this, getting it finished. When I finally saw it, I didn't even see the film myself until a month ago. I got a stream of it and I looked at it. I went whoa. These guys not knocked it out of the park. It does not look like what it costs to make and it's. It's impressive. The production value is really good and the photography is amazing. The music is fantastic. This guy Nicholas Kirk, who was the composer who wrote all the songs and the scored the whole film and he co wrote the screenplay with. With Brendan.
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Zachary Levi
I'm not going to be able to help you.
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Adam Corolla
Sorry man. And anyhow, what they did was extraordinary. And then the cast that they put together, these K kids can all sing. They can really sing.
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Zachary Levi
Rainy Qualley, you won an Oscar for best song, right?
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Adam Corolla
I did, yeah. That was a while ago. So that's my bonafide. I guess that's why I get to be in this.
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Zachary Levi
Well, that's kind of incredible. So I'm easy. From Nashville, 1975.
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Adam Corolla
Yep.
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Zachary Levi
So you were really young.
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Adam Corolla
24 and 26. I'm sorry, 26. I'm 75 now.
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Zachary Levi
I don't know the average age. You win Oscar.
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Adam Corolla
That might have been ahead of the curve.
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Zachary Levi
I'm waiting. But under 30 is. And under 25 is young, so that's a hell of a way to get out of the gate.
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Adam Corolla
Well, I got lucky, you know, I mean, there's a lot of people out there that are really gifted, doing amazing stuff. They never get a break. You don't hear them. You don't hear their song. I got very lucky in that I was working with Altman from early on. We were shooting Thieves Like Us in Mississippi. I had my guitar.
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Zachary Levi
He.
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Adam Corolla
He loves to have parties. Bob did. He had a weekend party at the place he was renting. I had my guitar. I was playing my music. Joan Tewksbury, who'd written the screenplay for Thieves Like Us, was going up to Nashville on the weekends and sort of doing research for that project. Were you heard out here?
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Zachary Levi
Were you, like, in Laurel Canyon and Malibu or something?
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Adam Corolla
Well, I lived in Laurel Canyon at first.
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Zachary Levi
Everyone lived in Laurel Canyon. All the creatives lived in Laurel Canyon.
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Adam Corolla
Well, I was actually there during the time. And then I moved out to Topanga, which is also what everybody does.
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Zachary Levi
That's where the creatives moved when they left Laurel Canyon. Yeah, then I was in Topanga.
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Adam Corolla
Topanga for like, 15 years. Then I went to Colorado. I was in the Rockies for a while, up in Telluride.
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Zachary Levi
And so for you, it was. I mean, there was an environment vibe that you needed.
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Adam Corolla
Are you.
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Zachary Levi
You. You gelled with or something? I'm a creative person, but I don't need to, like, live in the Village. I just feel like I want boring suburbia. And then it'll be quiet and crime free. And then I can create without the distraction of that.
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Adam Corolla
I'm gonna quote my friend Tom Waits, with whom I had a conversation a little while back, and I said, how are you up there? And he's up in Northern California. I said, you're such a. You write from such an urban place, and there you are in a very rural place. How is that? He says. Well, he says, the way I operate, I just kind of sit down and start to absorb. And then eventually I secrete. So that's kind of my M.O. i think, is it doesn't matter where I am. This stuff comes through us, you know, and whatever the avenue is that will Generate that passage of this thing to come from where it came and come through me and become a song. You know, I was listening to this McCartney podcast. He's talking about writing and how the stuff just comes to you, you know.
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Zachary Levi
Yeah, well, I was watching him on SNL's 50th whatever the other day. I was watching a clip of him doing a song or two. And it's like, I don't know, what's the guy, 82, he's in his 80s now. It's so impressive that he can keep that. And also it's impressive that he created that stuff at. Well, you know what it's like average age of The Oscar winners, 50. Is it? So you found that out, huh? Somebody put it on my screen.
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Adam Corolla
Okay, I guess I was ahead of that curve.
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Zachary Levi
But you should have two by now.
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Adam Corolla
Well, according to that logic, I should have two. Although, you know, I've written a lot of songs and that's my Oscar was for songwriting. It wasn't. But you know, my wife likes to perform. My wife likes to say that it had everything to do with my performance of it in the film. And maybe there's something to that. But whatever it was, it touched a nerve. It got through. People liked it.
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Zachary Levi
Nashville was a real bonafide hit back. I was young, but I remember Altman and Nashville.
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Adam Corolla
Well. It was certainly. It was critically acclaimed.
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Zachary Levi
Critically acclaimed.
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Adam Corolla
It didn't go out and make a lot of money.
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Zachary Levi
No, it wasn't Jaws, but it.
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Adam Corolla
No, but it.
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Zachary Levi
But it was critically acclaimed.
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Adam Corolla
But that's kind of been my whole thing, man. I've been. I've been looking from the outside in this business forever. I mean, I've always been kind of.
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Zachary Levi
There is that weird, but there is kind of a weird low self esteem in this business.
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Adam Corolla
I'm sure I was guilty of it.
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Zachary Levi
As the next person because you have an Oscar, but you look at yourself as an outsider, everybody. I remember interviewing Coppola once and I said like, so you can kind of do whatever. And he's like, they won't let me do the films I want to do. They'll let me do a gangster film. But I don't. And I've talked to. I remember talking to Sylvester Stallone and he felt like kind of short shrift and cheated and didn't get his due. Maybe it's just a default setting, but it's like if Coppola and Stallone can feel like they kind of are the black sheep of the business or didn't get their due or couldn't do what they wanted to do. Then where are we?
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Adam Corolla
Well, yeah, that's a good question. I don't feel as though I haven't been given a lot of shots. I have no complaints. I'm a lucky man.
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Zachary Levi
Does it Carradine. Is there any nepotism there?
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Adam Corolla
Well, sure. I mean, just by default. I mean, the name itself opens certain doors. Once you get in that door, I was challenged on more than one occasion. But what are you doing here? Why do you think you belong here? Just because your name is Carradine? You know, there was this casting director. Oh, she was something else. Her name was Millie Gussie.
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Zachary Levi
What was it for?
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Adam Corolla
I can't remember. It wasn't. I don't remember that it was for anything, but I went into a general, I think they called them in those days. I was 20 something and sat opposite her in her office at Paramount on the lot. And she said, well, what makes you think you're an actor? You know, I mean, you know, who, you know, who are you to be in here? It was intimidating and I was cowed, I'll tell you. But you know, you don't quit. You keep at it. And eventually if you have something to offer and you're lucky, and I was lucky and whatever I had to offer, people gave me some shots.
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Zachary Levi
You were in Southern Comfort, right?
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Adam Corolla
Yep.
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Zachary Levi
I remember seeing that in the movie theater. Powers booth.
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Adam Corolla
Yes, sir.
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Zachary Levi
That's one of the greatest names ever. Don't sleep on Southern Comfort. I feel like a lot of people have seen Red Dawn 35 times and Miss Southern Comfort. It's good.
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Adam Corolla
It's not bad.
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Zachary Levi
It's like swampy. It's got the bayou vibe to it. It's got a lot of good elements going to it. And I remember seeing it in the theater going, oh, yeah, this is good.
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Adam Corolla
Well, you know, Summon Comfort's interesting. It's gotten recognized again now and, oh, it did. My dear old friend Alan Rudolph, there's an amazing piece on him in the current issue of the New Yorker talking about Breakfast of Champions, which was roundly rejected when he made it. And this reviewer, who's really smart and what he wrote was really smart, basically talks about how extraordinary this film is and it's kind of a work of genius movie. And everyone dismissed it. And one of the comments the reviewer made was that it was so original that the established norms.
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Zachary Levi
Wait, are we talking.
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Adam Corolla
Breakfast of Champions was so original that the established norms dictated that it had to be rejected. And now people are looking at this film and I'm so happy For Alan, because I just think he's a mad genius. I've loved the stuff that we've done together. And one of the things that drew me to this thing, the devil is these kids that are making this movie, they're not kids anymore, but they're young people, and they're on the upswing. And these other performers, it was an incredible experience to be around that energy and the inventiveness that they brought to it and the passion they brought to it. You know, a lot of times in this business, if you last long enough, you know, you can get kind of jaded and cynical and, you know, you lose that juice. When you talked about seeing McCartney and being impressed, that he still seems to be interested. And I think that one of the things that. That we have as performers, if you can stay, if you can still feel like you've got more to do or you haven't been completely seen yet, I think that's a kind of a drive that can lead to more creativity. And I think that's growth in its own way. And if you just keep growing, you know, if you stop growing, you start dying. So.
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Zachary Levi
Yeah, well, it's at least not atrophy, you know what I mean? To keep moving, to keep. You know, it's like if you walk five miles every day, I don't know if it's growth, but it's not atrophy.
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Adam Corolla
Yeah. And you need to do that. It's important.
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Zachary Levi
I concur. Now, what do you think? I'm gonna ask my guys. Southern comfort, 1983.
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Adam Corolla
We shot it in 1980.
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Zachary Levi
80.
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Adam Corolla
In 81. I think it came out in 82. We shot long riders in the summer of 79. And that was the next thing I did with Walter after the Long Riders with Southern Comfort. So, Yeah, I think 81, something like that.
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Zachary Levi
Now, the question on Rotten Tomatoes, I bet the people liked it more than the critics. But it was interesting. I enjoyed it, but I was a lad at the time. What do you think the Rotten Tomatoes score is?
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Adam Corolla
I have no idea. I know that we screened it recently in Santa Monica at the Aero. Walter and I were there. The place was packed.
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Zachary Levi
Oh, yeah.
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Adam Corolla
And that audience was a real mix. I mean, there were older people, there were younger people. They loved the movie and they got it.
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Zachary Levi
It had a little first blood before First Blood, some of those elements when Rambo was real, right? Yeah, 81. It says it came out here. It could have been the late 81. All right. Should we take Rotten Tomatoes guesses?
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Adam Corolla
Gad Zooks, man. I Don't know. Does that change Rotten Tomatoes? Does it evolve or is it always the same number that it first got?
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Zachary Levi
I think there could be some evolving good or there could be. It can add or subtract. You can get a couple of bad ones.
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Adam Corolla
I'm gonna be optimistic, and I'm gonna say somewhere in the seventies with the critics. With the critics. With the critics. I would give it probably below 50.
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Zachary Levi
Okay, so should we lock in at like, 45? With the critics?
- [51:38]
Adam Corolla
With the critics.
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Zachary Levi
Okay, and we'll put you at 75. For the people.
- [51:42]
Adam Corolla
For the people, Yeah.
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Zachary Levi
I have a chasm between the critics and the people as well. I'm gonna say what they call the audience score. The popcorn score or something like that. I don't know. I liked it, but I was young when I saw it. I'll stick with you. I'll say in the 70s with the people, in the 40s with the critics. Dawson.
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Jason Mayhem Miller
Oh, Southern Comfort is fresh at 78.
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Adam Corolla
I had it right.
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Jason Mayhem Miller
Carradine was correct on the money for the people score at 75.
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Zachary Levi
Well, to be fair to Carradine, I signed him to 75. He said above 70, but that's right in the middle.
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Adam Corolla
Yeah.
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Zachary Levi
God bless you. Well, that's a pretty listen by Rotten Tomatoes standards. That is a solid score right there.
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Adam Corolla
And now I'm hoping that for this thing that we're talking about, the Devil and the Day Long Brothers. It's only streaming. It's in a few theaters, but it's a different world now. And the only way this stuff gets adopted, embraced, is word of mouth. And so I'm hoping that people are gonna see it and tell their friends to see it and that I'll be very curious to see what the Rotten Tomatoes are on this. There have been a few reviews. There was one, the only slightly negative review I read gave it a B minus and complained about the fact that people would break into song during the middle of Mayhem. And my response to that is, now, wait a second. Are there rules to musicals as to when you can break into song when you're in the middle of. You know, I've not heard of that, but it's brilliant. I. What they did here, it's kind of Tarantino meets Disney in a weird way. And in fact, the creators, you know, Brendan and Nicholas, they talked about the fact that when they were designing this thing and writing the screenplay and deciding the structure of it, they actually went and looked at a bunch of Disney animated musicals to try and figure out the structure of where it seems to be the best working plot of where to put a song and where to have a song in the structure of the telling of the story. Because basically these songs are helping to tell the story, as musicals do. That's what they're supposed to do. The music in this thing is terrific. And this guy's really good. He's really good.
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Zachary Levi
I don't think there are any more rules anymore, because apparently not. Isn't there a Robbie Williams film where he plays a chimpanzee except for Robbie Williams is a chimp? Am I making this up?
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Adam Corolla
You may be right. I've not seen.
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Zachary Levi
Is a film that everybody is. I mean, it's. I don't know, in the 90s on rotten tomatoes, and it's Robbie Williams, the pop. Am I getting this right? Robbie Williams, the pop star? There's too many celebrities and too many names in my head now. And he is a chimpanzee, although everything else is normal around him. And I don't even know how to describe it other than people seem to like it a lot. It's called Better man, and it's like a biography of Robbie Williams, except for Robbie Williams is not in it. I've heard of this.
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Adam Corolla
He's in it as a chimpanzee. Yeah.
- [55:06]
Zachary Levi
So here's what I'm getting from this. No more rules. No, just whatever it just is. So you can sing or you can not sing, and you can sing in the middle of a gunfight. It doesn't matter anymore. Or you cannot. You have to pull it off.
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Adam Corolla
Yeah.
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Zachary Levi
Yes. Is that Better Man? I mean, that thing's like 95% on rotten tomatoes or something. It's crazy. Made $110 million.
- [55:33]
Adam Corolla
Oh.
- [55:34]
Zachary Levi
Had $110 million budget.
- [55:37]
Adam Corolla
That's different from what it. I wonder what it did make.
- [55:40]
Zachary Levi
Yeah. So you. What the hell was LA like in Laurel Canyon back in the day, Smokey? It was a completely. How different was Hollywood back in the day?
- [55:54]
Adam Corolla
It was all different. I mean, you know, I remember being on the Strip during the curfew in the summer of 66, I think.
- [56:03]
Zachary Levi
Sunset Strip.
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Adam Corolla
Yeah. You know, there was a lot of cross pollinization, as you said. Everybody was there. You know, it was Joni Mitchell's time when she was riding the ladies of the Canyon and stuff like that. The birds were there, C.S. crosby, Stills Nash. They were all hanging out in the canyon. I remember I was recording in the 70s as a result of Geffen signing me. He saw the movie Nashville and he signed me to a recording deal. So I was. I was recording at that time. And one of the people that played on. On one of the recordings was John Mayall. He came. He just passed. I was sorry to hear. But he. He came in and did a. A piano harmonica riff where he played the same notes on the harmonica as he was playing on the piano and added that into this cut. On my first record, John Garon was producing it. He'd been the drummer for the LA Express. In fact, there was one session that I sat in, recorded My Gu, because it was a solo guitar picking part. And I walked into the control room. He said, that was great. Come on in and listen. And I walked in and Joanie was sitting there. They were a couple. I was freaked. I mean, if I had known she was sitting there when I was playing that, I couldn't have done it.
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Zachary Levi
Who are some of the people you think are really stellar in that.
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Adam Corolla
Well, you know. Yeah, that pantheon. I mean, she's obviously top of the list from a songwriting point of view. Tom Waits, he's a friend, but I just think he's a genius. What he writes, what he wrote. When he was 19. When I was 19, I was writing puerile crap, you know. When he was 19, he was writing from a place of sagacity, wisdom. It was like, how do you know that when you're 19, how do you write a song like Martha, you know, Operator Number Please? It's been so many years. I mean, where do you.
- [57:52]
Zachary Levi
You know, Is Downtown Train one of his.
- [57:54]
Adam Corolla
I can't remember that one.
- [57:55]
Zachary Levi
I think he wrote it and then Rod Stewart.
- [57:59]
Adam Corolla
Oh, yeah.
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Zachary Levi
Covered it and made it into a hit.
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Adam Corolla
I think Tom's ballads, I mean, everything he does, I'm just a freak for him. But I think his ballads are just exquisite. And, you know, from that time, Tim Harden, John Prine, the kind of stuff.
- [58:14]
Zachary Levi
They were writing, I would imagine you'd like John Hyatt.
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Adam Corolla
Yes, I love John Hyatt. Yeah.
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Zachary Levi
Cause he's a wordsmith.
- [58:22]
Adam Corolla
Yeah, I like words, man. I appreciate the ability to put them together so that they sing, you know, I agree.
- [58:32]
Zachary Levi
I am not of the. I think the lyrics matter.
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Adam Corolla
Oh, yeah, I do, too.
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Zachary Levi
And I think they're important. And I get the part where there's songs you like that are in Spanish and you don't know a goddamn word they're saying, but you go, hey, that's good song. Like, I could see myself shaking my ass to that. And that's important, and that's a thing. But when somebody can really turn a phrase, like in Papa Was a Rolling Stone, when they Go wherever he left his hat was his home and when he died all he left us is.
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Adam Corolla
Alone I'm like, oh, yeah, well, that John Prine song, There's a hole in Daddy's arm Where all the money goes.
- [59:18]
Zachary Levi
Wow.
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Adam Corolla
I mean, that's an entire life story.
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Zachary Levi
That's a heroine thing, right? Yeah, yeah.
- [59:22]
Adam Corolla
And then people that can write that way and conjure an image that efficiently, something that pithy, that's that short and has that much wit to it. I strive for that, you know, And I'm still writing. I'm still writing songs, and I tend to write more simply now than I used to. I used to try to say too much. But there's something to being concise, you know, and being able to put a lyric together that has a ring to it and then maybe has a rhyme to it as well. But that also, you know, makes a point in a melodic way, Verbally melodic.
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Zachary Levi
Tom Waits did write Downtown Train.
- [60:03]
Adam Corolla
He did.
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Zachary Levi
So you'll hear Rod Stewart sing it and you'll get confused because you'll be like, oh, these are good lyrics. And you write songs about hot legs, and even the president needs passion. So you're a semi retarded songwriter who writes horrible, embarrassing, demeaning lyrics. Where did you get Shining like a New Dime? And stuff like that. Where did that come from? And then you go, oh, the reason you like this Rod Stewart song is cause Tom Waits wrote the song. That's why you like it, and that's why it sounds interesting. And it's sort of got layers and it paints a picture and it's very. You can close your eyes and listen to that song and sort of see, you know. And Rod Stewart's singing about passion and hot legs, which are juvenile and horrible, and he should be embarrassed lyrics. But it was probably high on coke or something, or he's just trying to get paid.
- [60:59]
Adam Corolla
It was a hit, wasn't it?
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Zachary Levi
It was a hit with idiots. It was a hit with idiots. But you do hear Downtown Train, or.
- [61:09]
Adam Corolla
One of my favorites of Waits is I'm Gonna Take it with me when I Go.
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Zachary Levi
Should we try to listen to that?
- [61:16]
Adam Corolla
Oh, it's fantastic.
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Zachary Levi
I'm gonna take it with me when.
- [61:19]
Adam Corolla
I go I'll take it with me when I go. It is so full of heart, that song. And it's. You know, it's a couple. He's singing to his lady, and it's just full of soul, full of heart. And that's the stuff that I respond to.
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Zachary Levi
You know, if you also. If you ever hear okay. If you hear a Rod Stewart song you like, somebody else write, those are my Rod Stewart. Okay. That's number one. If you hear Downtown Train, someone else wrote it. And I think Handbags and Glad Rags, which is a good Rod Stewart song, was written by Cat Stevens. That's what I think. But we'll see if memory. We'll see if memory serves, but we'll hear the Tom Waits song. And there's also John Waits, but that's a different guy.
- [62:11]
Adam Corolla
Different guy.
- [62:11]
Zachary Levi
He's from the babies.
- [62:13]
Adam Corolla
And the piano on this is just exquisite. It just sounds like an upright ballroom piano. It's not really in perfect tune.
- [62:23]
Zachary Levi
Phones are fucked.
- [62:27]
Adam Corolla
No one knows where we are It's a long time since I drank champagne.
- [62:36]
Keith Carradine
The ocean is blue as blue as.
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Adam Corolla
Your eyes I'm gonna take it with me when I go oh, long since gone now Way back when we lived in Coney Island.
- [63:04]
Zachary Levi
I get why I didn't get a lot of pop airplay.
- [63:08]
Adam Corolla
No, not this. But I can hear it over and over again.
- [63:12]
Zachary Levi
Yeah. Cause it's as much a feeling as it is a song.
- [63:17]
Adam Corolla
Yep.
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Zachary Levi
And there's something when things get really stripped down and really simple that somehow, like I always say, like a great logo.
- [63:28]
Adam Corolla
Yeah.
- [63:29]
Zachary Levi
Simplicity, but yet super effective.
- [63:31]
Adam Corolla
Yep.
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Zachary Levi
Yeah. That's wonderful.
- [63:33]
Adam Corolla
Yeah.
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Zachary Levi
What would you recommend? So if you wanted. People want to listen to Tom Waits, like go online and any.
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Adam Corolla
I mean, his body of work is just astounding. You know, there's one piece that he did that I saw performed. He did this musical called Black Rider and it was performed downtown at the Ahmanson. It never went to New York. It was one of the most astounding things I've ever seen on a stage. The music was extraordinary. The whole production was just magnificent. I'm not sure you could ever get that music anywhere, but every one of his records, you know, and listen, I was. I was introduced to his music when I was just starting out and I was working with this music attorney. And she said, listen to that. This. Describe the artist, you know, and it was his first record. And I said, well, he's. I don't know, he's a black guy in his 50s or 60s. He said, this is a 19 year old white kid from San Diego. And I. Whoa, what? And that was the beginning of my. Of my fascination with Tom. And then our lives have crisscrossed. We've had sort of intersecting lives in certain ways.
- [64:39]
Zachary Levi
And so for you, is it music, acting? I mean, I mean, if you weren't a Carradine, do you think it would just be music?
- [64:47]
Adam Corolla
Yes.
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Zachary Levi
That's an honest answer.
- [64:49]
Adam Corolla
I do. I mean, I had an opportunity. I had always been. I had been playing. I had been songwriting. It was something I was doing. I'm not a great musician. I'm not a great player. I can play the guitar enough to write the songs that I write. I dabble on the piano, and I've written songs on the piano. But I'm not highly accomplished as a player. But whatever I can do vocally and whatever my sense of lyric is, that has evolved and I think improved over the years. I've had opportunities to do stuff musically that I've never had more joy from a creative experience than from making music or. In fact, you know, I mean, I've done musicals on Broadway. Those are fun, man. I mean, you know, starting with Hair, that was my first gig.
- [65:37]
Zachary Levi
Oh, really?
- [65:38]
Adam Corolla
In 69? Yeah.
- [65:39]
Zachary Levi
Were you naked?
- [65:40]
Adam Corolla
I was every night. Eight shows a week.
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Zachary Levi
How did that, by the way, did Cat Stevens do Handbags and Glad Rags? Just a follow up on the initial question. Somebody wrote that other than Rod Stewart. Well, we can look.
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Adam Corolla
Yeah.
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Zachary Levi
How was that performing naked?
- [66:01]
Adam Corolla
Well, you know, how old were you? Talk about performing naked. But the naked part was not a performance. It was a very strict ordinance in terms of New York theater that you could be naked on stage as long as you did not move.
- [66:15]
Zachary Levi
Oh, really?
- [66:16]
Adam Corolla
Correct. So that moment in Hair that happened at the end of act one, in every performance, the cast would rise from under a scrim for all these jobs, and they would stand up naked and stand still.
- [66:28]
Zachary Levi
Mike Diabo wrote Handbags and Glad Rags.
- [66:31]
Jason Mayhem Miller
The singer of Manford Man.
- [66:35]
Zachary Levi
There she come just a walking down that Manford man. Huh? Do. What did he do? That's Manfred, man. Right. Oh, Blinded by the Light. And also do what?
- [66:46]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Diddy Diddy and Quinn the Eskimo.
- [66:49]
Adam Corolla
Oh, Quinn the Eskimo, yeah.
- [66:51]
Zachary Levi
Also wrote Build Me Up, Buttercup. It's a great song by the Foundations or something, I think, or whatever.
- [66:56]
Adam Corolla
Quinn the Eskimo. Is that what I. I understand that that was about the Anthony Quinn performance in Savage Innocence. Is that what the source of that song was?
- [67:04]
Zachary Levi
Talking to the wrong crew?
- [67:06]
Adam Corolla
I know there's a crossover there because it was Anthony Quinn. He played an Eskimo in Savage.
- [67:10]
Zachary Levi
Oh, really?
- [67:11]
Adam Corolla
Yeah.
- [67:11]
Zachary Levi
Maybe it was Queen.
- [67:12]
Adam Corolla
The Eskimo gets when he gets you. You know, Everybody get a jump for joy, man.
- [67:17]
Zachary Levi
Where the hell did I get Cat Stevens in that song? I wonder if there's any Cat Stevens song that a Rod Stewart covered that would Be interesting. But now. Oh, Cat Stevens covered the song as well, so I thought it was a cat, Steven. That's where the confusion. So I'm not that far off. Cat Stevens did Handbags and Glad Rags, and I figured since Cat wrote his stuff, or I assumed he did, that he wrote that song. So, anyway, ordinance is you can be naked, but you can't gyrate or move.
- [67:53]
Adam Corolla
Correct. I have no idea if it's changed since then, but this was 1969. That was the ordinance in place at the time. So the cast stood up naked and it was a statement about freedom and tolerance.
- [68:06]
Zachary Levi
How old were you?
- [68:07]
Adam Corolla
I was 19.
- [68:09]
Zachary Levi
Yeah. That's prime boner years, by the way. You could get a boner.
- [68:13]
Adam Corolla
I managed to stand up on stage without that happening.
- [68:15]
Zachary Levi
Wow, you are an artist.
- [68:18]
Adam Corolla
The audience did not turn me on to that degree.
- [68:21]
Morgan
Yeah.
- [68:21]
Zachary Levi
But there were young ladies in the cast.
- [68:24]
Adam Corolla
Yes, that's true.
- [68:25]
Zachary Levi
Rod Stewart covered Cat Stevens song the First Cut is the Deepest, which is another great song that if you find yourself enjoying Rod Stewart, someone else wrote the song. That's the rule with Rod Stewart, even though he does a great job on first cuts of dc.
- [68:43]
Adam Corolla
Are you a fan of the album he did of standards?
- [68:46]
Zachary Levi
I like that kind of stuff. I appreciate Rod Stewart. It's just when I hear songs like Passion and Hot Legs, I'm embarrassed for him. I literally embarrassed. But it was the 80s, so, you know, what can you do?
- [69:01]
Adam Corolla
So there was a lot of. A lot of sneer in the 80s. It was.
- [69:04]
Zachary Levi
Yes.
- [69:04]
Adam Corolla
It was a dusty time.
- [69:05]
Zachary Levi
I. I attribute a lot of it to cocaine consumption.
- [69:08]
Adam Corolla
Yeah.
- [69:09]
Zachary Levi
So you're 19, you're naked on stage. Must have been women in the cast you were attracted to.
- [69:19]
Adam Corolla
Well, I wrote one of them, a song and she has my child, so.
- [69:22]
Zachary Levi
Oh. So I'm going with yes on that.
- [69:24]
Adam Corolla
That did happen.
- [69:25]
Zachary Levi
Yeah. It's bound to happen. Right.
- [69:27]
Adam Corolla
Shelley Plimpton, she was Chrissy and we fell in love and I wrote I'm Easy for Her and.
- [69:33]
Zachary Levi
Oh, that's Martha's.
- [69:34]
Adam Corolla
Martha's mom. Yeah. My daughter, Martha Plimpton. Yeah.
- [69:37]
Zachary Levi
Martha Plimpton was a very prominent actress. She's still at it, period. And I'm trying to think of, well, it says here the Goonies, but I'm the only one who's never seen the Goonies.
- [69:52]
Adam Corolla
Yeah.
- [69:53]
Zachary Levi
Now, I would know her from.
- [69:56]
Adam Corolla
We got a Mosquito Coast. Mosquito coast, among other things. Parenthood. She's brilliant.
- [70:02]
Zachary Levi
She's Parenthood.
- [70:03]
Adam Corolla
Yep.
- [70:04]
Zachary Levi
Great.
- [70:05]
Adam Corolla
Yeah. She's great in that with Keanu. She and Keanu Reeves is Parenthood, I.
- [70:10]
Zachary Levi
Dare say underrated, because I think people think of it as a comedy, but it's really an interesting look in your life.
- [70:17]
Adam Corolla
It's very layered, you know, Ross, very layered. He knows what he's doing and that. That movie holds up.
- [70:22]
Zachary Levi
Was she. I'm gonna go way back. There was a series called James at 16 or James at 15. Was she in that? Well, she was a child actress.
- [70:36]
Adam Corolla
She started out young. Yeah. Yeah. I think she did her first film at 11, if I'm not mistaken. She. She did an off Broadway play, I think, when she was 11. Maybe she was 12 when she did her first film. I'm not quite sure of the exact ages, but yeah, she was. She was a. She was a force. Is a force. And that was obvious from. From the get go with her. And she was just. She was born to perform.
- [70:58]
Zachary Levi
Yeah, she was in tons of stuff. I don't know. I. You know, I'm. Things are so spread out now and everyone's got their own station and you just don't. You don't see everything all the time. So I wouldn't. I wouldn't know if she was producing and writing. Directing.
- [71:16]
Adam Corolla
She's doing it all. I don't know that she's writing. I don't believe she's directed yet. But I know that she's really active and I'm very proud of her and her career. She's had an amazing career.
- [71:31]
Zachary Levi
Well, her mom obviously was an actress.
- [71:33]
Adam Corolla
Yes.
- [71:34]
Zachary Levi
And so between the two of you, that could see somebody getting into acting at a young age.
- [71:41]
Adam Corolla
Yeah, there were some genetics involved there, for sure.
- [71:44]
Zachary Levi
Oh, well, here. Why isn't she a Carradine, if you don't mind me asking?
- [71:48]
Adam Corolla
Her mother and I. Well, that was. That was. Her mother and I were not married and that was their choice to make at the time.
- [71:58]
Zachary Levi
She was living with her mother.
- [72:00]
Adam Corolla
Yeah.
- [72:00]
Zachary Levi
And you guys weren't married, so she.
- [72:02]
Adam Corolla
Took the mom's name. Angelina is not Voight either. So there you go.
- [72:07]
Zachary Levi
That's a good point. And then there's Nicolas Cage.
- [72:14]
Adam Corolla
And then there's dad.
- [72:16]
Zachary Levi
Was she in James at 15 and. Or James at 16? Was she the love interest in that series which was a made for TV movie that like spun off into a series and was real popular somewhere in the 70s and for some reason I have a vague recollection, but as we.
- [72:38]
Adam Corolla
Can tell, she would have been young. She was born in 70, so.
- [72:41]
Zachary Levi
So she was born in 1970.
- [72:44]
Adam Corolla
Yeah.
- [72:44]
Zachary Levi
Oh, too young. Yeah, too young. Sorry. Well, that's interesting. And so how did that dynamic work? You never married to the mom?
- [72:57]
Adam Corolla
No, we were not together that long, actually. It was a fairly brief affair, you know, But Shelly, she's a dear, dear sweet soul and one of my best, dearest friends. And, you know, that's just what that was, that it was a brief liaison out of which came an extraordinary being.
- [73:19]
Zachary Levi
Yeah.
- [73:19]
Adam Corolla
And, you know, you just. No regrets, man.
- [73:24]
Zachary Levi
Yeah, I guess I made up the whole James at 15 and 16. Lantern Kerwin, maybe the name of the actor who played that. It looked like a young Martha Plimpton. And then there's George Plimpton. Where does George Plimpton factor into this?
- [73:39]
Adam Corolla
I think he's actually a cousin. Yeah.
- [73:41]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I think Melissa Sue Anderson might have played. There's a picture of Lance Kerwin kissing Melissa Sue Anderson on the cheeks.
- [73:49]
Zachary Levi
I'm going with Melissa Sue Anderson. Yeah, the. Oh, God, there's too much. We've been around for too long. Yeah. Little House on the Prairie. Melissa Sue Anderson, as far as I can tell. So George Plimpton, the journalist. I think we'll give him the title of journalist, but sort of transcendent journalist.
- [74:13]
Adam Corolla
He did transcend journalism, but that was his basic gig. That's what we got to know him as.
- [74:18]
Zachary Levi
He's somewhere in that family.
- [74:19]
Adam Corolla
Yeah, he's a cousin.
- [74:21]
Zachary Levi
Oh, yes.
- [74:22]
Adam Corolla
Yeah, I think he's a cousin. Yeah.
- [74:23]
Zachary Levi
That's a good pedigree she's got going there because he was a. Oh, yeah. He was an interesting cat.
- [74:30]
Adam Corolla
Yeah.
- [74:31]
Zachary Levi
The Alan Alden movie, the Paper Lion, I think, was made after his experience.
- [74:38]
Adam Corolla
Aha.
- [74:39]
Zachary Levi
If that rings a bell.
- [74:40]
Adam Corolla
It does ring a bell.
- [74:41]
Zachary Levi
We're going back again.
- [74:42]
Adam Corolla
We're going back ways in the end. I'm not sure I've ever actually seen that film.
- [74:47]
Zachary Levi
George Plimpton, I think, tried out for the Detroit Lions in the, like, 60s or something.
- [74:56]
Adam Corolla
Was that like an Esquire article or something where they were talking about the fact that he had done that?
- [75:01]
Zachary Levi
Yeah. And then went, sort of wrote a story about what it was like to actually be kind of a civilian and try out or train with or go and the training camp of the Detroit.
- [75:14]
Adam Corolla
Lions, and he came out okay. Huh. He wasn't injured.
- [75:18]
Zachary Levi
He was good enough to write an article about it, and then somebody made a movie about it, and that's all I remember. And I remember Alan Alda played George Plimpton. That's all I got. So you. The Canyon. There was something about Laurel Canyon in that time period where all the artists coalesced there. Maybe it's because it just spilled out onto the Sunset Strip. Like, you could literally coast.
- [75:46]
Adam Corolla
It was right up to all the clubs. You could coast down or roll down, as it were. Yeah, I knew those back roads very well when I was living up there. I was living up at the top of Wonderland.
- [75:56]
Zachary Levi
Oh, Wonderland. Famous. Infamous.
- [75:59]
Adam Corolla
Yeah. On Crescent Drive. Actually, my first school was the Wonderland Avenue School.
- [76:03]
Zachary Levi
My mom went there for a period of time.
- [76:06]
Adam Corolla
Yeah, we lived on Woodrow Wilson then. But I was living up on Crescent Drive, up at the top. And at one point, I was carless. I had just come back from New York from doing hair. And David, my brother, had these. He had. David was always a car freak. And he had these three cars. Lancia Aurelius, 50s, mid-50s Lancia Aurelia. It had a DDone transmission, and it was this really cool little Italian roadster. And he had three of them, and there was one of them that he would let me use. And at one point, I had a ticket that I had not addressed. So I spent all of my time going from my place in Laurel Canyon to my agency down at the end of Sunset by Doheny. And I would use all the back roads to get there so that I wouldn't cross any heat because I didn't want to get stopped.
- [76:53]
Zachary Levi
Right, right.
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Adam Corolla
And then, of course, you know, there was an occasion when I was standing outside on the dirt road looking at the view of the ocean from outside my house, and the black and white came down the road and stopped me and ran a check on me. And it turned out that I had this warrant for this equipment violation from one of David's cars that was missing a side view mirror.
- [77:13]
Zachary Levi
Oh, man.
- [77:16]
Adam Corolla
And that was my one experience of incarceration. I spent the night at Hollywood Jail and went to Van Nuys the next morning and had to stand up in court and explain why I hadn't taken care of the ticket honor.
- [77:26]
Zachary Levi
Have you seen Kung Fu, the series?
- [77:28]
Adam Corolla
Yeah.
- [77:29]
Zachary Levi
Probably wasn't on yet.
- [77:30]
Adam Corolla
No, that was pre Kung Fu.
- [77:31]
Zachary Levi
Pre Kung. I, incredibly, had almost the exact same experience. I swear to God, I've been in jail one time.
- [77:41]
Adam Corolla
Yeah, that was my one time.
- [77:42]
Zachary Levi
It was because of a warrant, and it's because I knew I had a warrant. And it's because I took side streets to try to avoid the main thoroughfare, which in my case was Ventura Boulevard. In your case, it was all through the hills. Sunset, but, yeah, Ventura and then Sunset, sort of bookend where you live. And I took the side streets to try to avoid it. Got pulled over anyway and got arrested. And that's the one time I went in.
- [78:15]
Adam Corolla
And I remember standing in the courtroom, and this judge, you know, who was. He was affable. And there was a courtroom full of other people, you know, and it got my turn to stand up, and he said, so, what's going on with this? And he said, what's happening with the car? I said, well, actually, that car is my brother's car. And that car has actually been cannibalized for parts. For some reason, he found that hilarious.
- [78:40]
Zachary Levi
Yeah.
- [78:40]
Adam Corolla
And he started laughing, you know, on the bench, and said, okay, get out of here. You know, and that was that.
- [78:47]
Zachary Levi
Driving at Lancia or Lancia, like in the 50s or 60s or from the 50s. From the 50s or in the 70s is an insane proposition. Because if you need a head gasket, you gotta order it. It's gonna take seven.
- [79:03]
Adam Corolla
There was a guy down in Venice that David would take the cars to. His name was Vito. And he was the only guy who could fix those cars.
- [79:10]
Zachary Levi
They're literally, at a certain point in, like, the mid-70s, you would see commercials and they'd go, we work on foreign cars. It's a big selling point. But you, like, knew a guy. It was like. It was essentially like having a drug dealer. It's like, I know a guy, he's real expensive, and he's across town, and you gotta go all the way there. No, you want the car fixed.
- [79:34]
Adam Corolla
You want this part. Here's what you gotta do. You're not gonna. You're not gonna just get this part. You have to. You have to know a guy who knows a guy who.
- [79:41]
Zachary Levi
No, I mean, now you can drive whatever you want. Go drop it off and fix it. But back then, if you drove something weird. My grandparents in the 60s in North Iowa drove a Peugeot.
- [79:52]
Adam Corolla
Oh, there you go.
- [79:52]
Zachary Levi
It was like, are you guys nuts?
- [79:54]
Adam Corolla
Very French.
- [79:55]
Zachary Levi
Anything breaks. It's like a car sitting.
- [79:57]
Adam Corolla
For six months, I drove a Peugeot Cinq Sans Cat. I rented it in Nice in southern France. I had just finished working there, and I rented this Peugeot Saint Sans Cat. And I drove it from Nice back to Paris, through Italy and the Alps.
- [80:13]
Zachary Levi
Wow.
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Adam Corolla
And at one point, I pulled up into Zermatt. Zermatt. And parked and then took the cog train up to the town of Zermatt. Spent the night in a hotel. I was dying to see the Matterhorn. I'd never seen it in real life. I remembered the Disney movie with, you know, with Spencer Tracy. And so I took a hike up to see the Matterhorn. It was shrouded in fog. I saw nothing. But I remember that Peugeot very well.
- [80:39]
Zachary Levi
Yeah, well, my grandma bought it years off you. Keith, let me give you a plug. The Devil and the Day Long Brothers. It's available on demand everywhere. You find finer on demand films as we speak, folks.
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Adam Corolla
You gotta see this movie. It's unlike anything. If you're sick of the usual Hollywood fare, the repeats, the remakes, the, you know, regurgitated stuff, nobody has their own an original idea, it seems anymore. They just keep redoing stuff. This movie is utterly original. It works really well. It's very well made. The cast is fantastic. The singers are great. These kids can really sing. You know, Rainy Qualley, I mean, she's a great singer and she's really good in this movie. And these three boys are fantastic.
- [81:22]
Zachary Levi
I would challenge everyone. Just watch the trailer, see how good it looks and then go ahead and educate yourself. Keith. Great. Come back anytime you like this.
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Adam Corolla
Thank you, sir. I enjoyed it.
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Zachary Levi
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You know the song, right? Right.
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Mm.
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Zachary Levi
Run Forrest.
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Adam Corolla
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Zachary Levi
Pluto TV stream now pay Never.
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Jason Mayhem Miller
Here's an actual thing. Our government is spending your tax money on $2.3 million for strengthening independent voices in Cambodia. Now back to the Adam Corolla show.
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Zachary Levi
It must be great to be in the invisible business. Yeah, you know what I mean, where you just go, what's your job? My job is to raise awareness of people whose voices need to be heard. I go, well, my job's roofer, because there's no when you have a real super tangible job. I would say cage fighters, probably the most you can think about shingles.
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Morgan
You can think a lot about roofing.
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Zachary Levi
No, but I mean it is the most sort of nuts and bolts is sort of cage fighter. But being framing houses is super. You either do it or you don't like meaning every job site I've ever been on, the foreman would leave and then the foreman would come back. And then at some point when he came back, he'd go, what the fuck is going on here? Two sheets of drywall. I've been gone for 90 minutes. Young. Two fucking sheets of dry. You should be done with this whole room. What the are you doing? Like, but imagine a job. We're just in perpetuity. You never did anything.
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Morgan
I've been to those gyms where they just talk about fighting.
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Zachary Levi
Oh really?
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Morgan
Just like talk about the theory. And they do like six minutes of practice and the entire. And they're spread out. Nana, get in there. Grind. Get in there, do the same move over and over and over again. And then it becomes part of. Of you, like a roof.
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Zachary Levi
All right. I was watching something yesterday on my phone that. It took me a second because I was watching it on my phone. I wonder how much stuff. It's snl, it's Tom Hanks. It's In Memoriam of Bits that They Can't Do Anymore, which we have somewhere.
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Morgan
What? Oh, man, I didn't expect to watch.
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Zachary Levi
But here's the thing. You're watching it on your phone. You don't have to go too far ahead. You can go like. I don't know, what's the whole thing? Is it four minutes or something? You can go the middle. The middle of it. So, okay, here's what I'm saying, and maybe get Tom at the top because he's going to kind of explain the bit and then at some point a minute in, we'll fast forward. But I'm watching it on my phone. And even though you get a pretty good idea what's going on your phone, the stuff, physically, when they're doing certain things, it's only an inch by an inch. You know, when I'm trying to look at. What I'm saying is the physical screen of the phone is big. But if you look at this picture, Tom Hanks is on the stage at SNL. Tom Hanks represents 10% of what's on this picture. So when you're looking at it on your phone, his head is not even a postage stamp size. Right. And so they did something and I didn't. Nobody said anything. And I saw. People saw this, and I didn't hear anything. And then I watched it and I was like, wait a minute, did I miss something? I caught something, but it happened so fast, and it was hard to tell. And I was like, all right, we'll play the beginning, and then we'll get to what I'm talking about.
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Morgan
As we celebrate the achievements of the past 50 years, we must also take a moment to honor those who we've lost. Countless members of the SNL family taken from us too soon. I'm speaking, of course, about snow, SNL characters and sketches that have aged horribly. But even though these characters, accents, and let's just call them ethnic wigs.
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Zachary Levi
Were.
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Morgan
Unquestionably in poor taste, you all laughed at them. So if anyone should be cast canceled, shouldn't it be you? The audience?
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Zachary Levi
It's all good so far.
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Morgan
Something to think about, anyway. We now present to you this in Memoriam.
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Zachary Levi
So I'm gonna show all the bits with all the accents and characters and everything. Oh, come on, samurai. Tell me my Napa helps us both. All right, now pause it for a second. Rob Schneider's being a Mexican. Okay, there's a couple things I'd like to say. I think when you are doing comedy, it gives you license to do whatever you want. I totally disagree with this thing where a white guy can't play. You know, listen, Billy Crystal can play Sammy Davis Jr. Or he can play. Oh, you look marvelous, guy. Whatever. Think of that guy's name, too.
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Morgan
Where is he? Dominican?
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Zachary Levi
I don't know. It's Billy Crystal. He's allowed to do it. And by the way, Eddie Murphy's allowed to play a white guy. Like, it's fine. But you're also. Will Ferrell is allowed to play Harry Carey. Yeah, but Eddie Murphy's allowed to play Harry Carey, too. It's comedy, so I don't buy into. You're not allowed to anything.
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Morgan
Yeah, you're preaching to the improv choir.
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Zachary Levi
Thank you. But you look marvelous. Was Billy Chris snl? Oh, Fernando Lamas. That's right.
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Morgan
Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
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Zachary Levi
All right. Fernando Lamas. Okay. Father.
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Morgan
Even Puerto Rican. Is he Jewish?
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Zachary Levi
He's Jewish, and he got to play a black guy and a Hispanic guy. That's all I'm saying. And it was funny, and I don't feel bad for laughing. And I don't think Billy Crystal is prejudiced in any way.
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Morgan
I don't think the black dudes I know would care, like, at all.
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Zachary Levi
Why not? It's actually kind of funnier when someone jumps race or jumps sex or ethnicity or whatever, but. All right, we'll play a little more. Sorry, Rob Schneider.
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Adam Corolla
Hey, hey, hey, look.
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Zachary Levi
Hey, come on. Hey.
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Morgan
Excuse me again.
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Zachary Levi
We're doing accent and sexual harassment.
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Adam Corolla
Why don't you drop out of that green jumpsuit and show me that fat ass?
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Zachary Levi
Hey, sexy, what do you say we adjourn to the janitor's closet job chow and see if I can hit baby. I've been in the library researching cloaking stuff.
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Morgan
But everyone's laughing, though.
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Zachary Levi
We got original.
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Adam Corolla
Ruled by Shampalia.
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Keith Carradine
You know, it looks like this is my lucky day.
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Morgan
I'll take the rapists for 200.
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Keith Carradine
That's therapists.
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Adam Corolla
Don't look at my bum. I don't look at your bum.
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Zachary Levi
I made a little video diary to show everybody how it is to be a host. Here. I made my grandmother's special recipe for cocker. Spaniel. All right, so great. Pause it for a second.
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Morgan
Oh, my God, this is still landing with me. I racist.
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Zachary Levi
I guess it's sex or dumb, but misogynistic. All right, so here's my point. We've heard all the different accents. We've seen all the pedophilia references and all. Rob Schneider wearing a sombrero and a mustache and doing a Spanish accent. We've seen all.
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Morgan
You forgot a poncho.
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Zachary Levi
We've seen all that. Now, don't go too far ahead. We'll give it a little head on there. But now I'm watching this, and at some point, they get to black people and you can play it, but give it a little head. Go ahead.
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Adam Corolla
For those of you hissing at that.
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Morgan
Joke, it should be noted.
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Zachary Levi
So it's like, hey, we're misogynists. We make fun of ethnic groups with pedophilia jokes. Everyone except New Jersey. And so I'm looking at it on my phone. That's a pedophilia or child molestation. More child molestation jokes. And now at a certain point, they run this weird really fast spastic thing where people's faces are tiled out or fuzzed out. All right, all right. Sorry, hold on a second here.
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Morgan
We got P. Diddy in the house.
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Zachary Levi
Okay, so they showed Rob Schneider and everyone else doing all the characters kind of long form. And then all of a sudden There was a 4 second montage with like 7 different images in it that happened super fast, where they blurred out the faces, pixelated. And I was looking at it going. And I'm looking at my phone at night. You know, maybe I had a glass of wine and I was relaxing and I kind of looked at sitting on Dr. Drew's sofa. And I looked at it and I was like, what was that? I thought the whole point was they were showing the people doing the offensive thing. Well, we got to hear all of Rob Schneider. I mean, we had a full shot of Rob Schneider in the sombrero, and we had a full molestation thing and pedophilia thing. They stayed on those images. You gotta go back now and explain them to me. This was seven images in four seconds, and I don't. And it was pixelated, so I don't know what. I couldn't tell what was happening.
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Morgan
Thompson doing something blackface with Seth Meyers. I'm good at this game.
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Zachary Levi
Okay, go to the start and tell me if this montage is. I don't think it's five seconds long, and I don't. And there's how many different images are there? Go ahead and play it.
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Morgan
You're in a pause pa. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay. The Native Americans in there. Yeah.
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Zachary Levi
They didn't title it, did they? Okay, so they don't title it anything, and they go through it so fast. And they pixelate the faces. Yeah, it was six seconds long, and there were, like, 11 images in six seconds. So it's like a half a second an image with the faces pixelated. And I'm like, what is going on?
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Morgan
They deemed it too offensive to even play on tv.
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Zachary Levi
Well, first I had to go, what happened? I don't know what this was, because I'm looking at my phone. Gave you a seizure, and it blew.
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Morgan
Right through, and I'm like wine on Dr. Drew's couch.
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Jason Mayhem Miller
I'm not sure, but I believe one of those pixelated faces was a white character playing Prince. And I would argue, right. That a white dude would be a better Prince than, like, a totally black dude.
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Morgan
Prince was whiter than me, bro.
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Zachary Levi
That was pretty light. I think Fred Armiston played Prince, and it was hysterical. It was hysterical. And you're right in that Eddie Murphy should play James Brown in the James Brown Hot Tub Party, because he is that color. James Brown was dark, and Eddie Murphy is dark. But when you need someone to play Prince, you don't want Eddie Murphy because he's too many shades dark. You want a guy who. Who's swarthy, like Fred Armisen, and then you just darken him half a shade, and he put the wig on him, and he becomes Prince. It's all. By the way. It's not like they didn't know what they were doing. They were trying. Okay. They were trying to approximate Prince, and Fred did a better job of. Of approximating Prince than a black man would have in Eddie Murphy.
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Jason Mayhem Miller
So Keenan. Keenan Thompson or Thomas was definitely one of the ones that they blacked out. I think it might have covered out his face twice.
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Morgan
Yes.
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Zachary Levi
Keenan.
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Morgan
Just the.
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Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, just the idea.
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Zachary Levi
Keenan.
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Morgan
I know. Yeah. Well, he had. They had a.
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Zachary Levi
By the way, six seconds. They showed. Okay, how long were they on Rob Schneider? Now we got to go back. How long were they on Rob Schneider at the beginning? At the beginning, he had a starring role. This is six seconds.
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Morgan
He delivered a line. Yeah, he gave a whole bit.
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Zachary Levi
I'm curious, just for my argument, this is 24 images in six seconds.
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Morgan
Yeah. Yeah.
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Zachary Levi
That is milliseconds or point. Whatever. Seconds per. Whatever. Let's see if we can figure out how long. NAFTA helps us both. It Will give me a job. Job.
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Morgan
Your job.
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Zachary Levi
I make a compagio for you.
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Morgan
Yeah, Full five seconds of that. No.
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Jason Mayhem Miller
So I think I know what you're getting at. I think I know what your theory is.
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Morgan
I mean, you're breaking it down to a science based man.
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Zachary Levi
Six seconds for Rob Schneider. Six seconds for one Rob Schneider doing a cartoon Mexican voice. And six seconds for 24 blackface images that were also pixeled out. By the way you treat black people like they're children. You know what I mean? So Italians, pedophiles, Mexicans, Japanese, whatever it is, no pixels. We do not have to pixelate the Japanese cuz they're adults, they understand context and they're doing well as a culture. But you black people, you're not up to the challenge of not being pixelated. God damn it is the soft bigotry of low expectations, man. It's the most racist shit in the world that you could take one group. Not pedophiles. Not pedophiles or underage girls showing cleavage and not any other ethnicity but black people. You're not up to the challenge.
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Morgan
Soft gloves. Yeah. I don't think none of the black guys I know want that.
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Zachary Levi
Us and I. So fucking pathetic.
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Jason Mayhem Miller
I didn't. I see your point. I didn't know that was what you were getting at. I was, I was. I would assume that we saw six seconds of Rob Schneider because he's out of favor with them.
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Zachary Levi
Well, that's part of it.
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Jason Mayhem Miller
Everyone else in that 6 second montage is the protected class. Whether you're white or black, you're protected.
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Zachary Levi
By NBC Saturday Night Live. That could be part of it. Oh. A recount of the montage now shows 30 images in six seconds. So I don't know how much faster. By the way, if that was an in memoriam for like your grandfather, you'd be rip shit pissed. Papa was only on there for 0.2 seconds.
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Morgan
Papa pixelated you.
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Zachary Levi
Not only pixelated, but you went so quickly that you ruined your own bit. Contextually, I don't know. Most people had to see that and go, what the what? Hold on. What the fuck was that? I don't know what that was. And you didn't subtitle it like you did everything else. You went pedophilia. You went want racial insensitivity or whatever. You gave everything else the title. You gave that no title. You pixelated everyone and you blew through it. Fuck you cowards. That is cowardly shit right there. You're snl, you know what I mean? Seriously, on the vanguard. Who. I want to watch that one more time. Who would have been upset? It happened so fast. I couldn't. Anyway, I'm looking at it in my phone and all I do is look up and go, what the fuck just happened? I don't. I was in the middle of a bit. I got the bit. The bit was you say, this is stuff that is culturally insensitive and just generally a no fly zone in today's world. With today's culture. I get it. Makes sense. And then you make something funny out of it, and then you put a little subtitle under everybody, a subhead, and then you explain why. And then I laugh. And then all of a sudden you get to the black people and you power right through it and you pixelate their face and you don't give a subtitle. I don't know what the fuck's going on. Nice job. Snl, you fucking pussies. It's a. Can't stop themselves. That's the funny part. Like, they can be as edgy as they want and they can talk about free speech and being bold and courageous, but they fucking puss out when it comes to their woke bullshit. And there's still that, which is sad. And yes, you're right. Rob Schneider. They don't have any love for Rob Schneider. So ironically, Rob Schneider, who probably wouldn't get a lot of face time in something like this, is going to get a lot of face time as long as he's wearing a sombrero, a mustache, and doing a Mexican accent. Right. All right, let's see it one more time. Xu Chow and Lee.
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Adam Corolla
Hi.
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Zachary Levi
Oh, they tiled out some Indians.
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Keith Carradine
Celebrity battle of the sexes and races.
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Zachary Levi
Oh, Jesus. All right. They. They pixelated some American Indians. At least the guys had headdresses on. Do you have to do. I know there's pale faces there. Pixelate face. Also, it. All it does is confuse the out of the audience because all we're seeing is people standing there with fuzzy faces and I don't even know what's going on on. And there were a couple people in Indian headdresses, so I guess you have to. But here's the deal. If a culture. So here's the rule for snl. Let me just get this straight. You didn't. You started with John Belushi doing a samurai and you didn't pixelate him. So is the. But you did do black. An American Indian.
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Morgan
It's the scale.
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Zachary Levi
So your rules. Snl, is pixelate people in cultures that aren't doing as well. But don't pixelate cultures that are doing well, is that it? And. Or cultures that won't complain. Like Mexicans who are too busy fucking working to stay up and watch SNL and then blow a letter in from their attorney. You fucking cowards. God damn. Are you. And by the way, this is the. The opposite of edgy, you guys. Your cow town.
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Morgan
It felt like it was going to be edgy at the beginning. I was excited. I was like, oh, they're going to show all the old. No pixelation.
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Zachary Levi
Somebody should have raised their fucking hand. All right, so they're still pussies. All right, now there's news. What do we got?
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Morgan
Yeah, we got some news. Jump right into it. I mean, you know, you're lucky to live here in America. An online meme.
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Zachary Levi
Hold on. Did anybody. I didn't hear anything about the pixelation thing. Like it?
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Morgan
Yeah, you're the first I heard of it.
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Zachary Levi
It's funny, they all made a big deal about Tom Hanks not wanting to shake hands with Kenan, which was sort of retarded too. They picked that story up and ran with that.
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Morgan
You wouldn't shake hands with the man.
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Zachary Levi
It's a retarded story. He was wearing a MAGA hat. That story. Everyone got and ran with the pixelation on the black and Indian face. Nobody.
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Morgan
Wow. Yeah, no one caught a hold of that.
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Zachary Levi
All right.
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Morgan
Anyway, luckily we live in America because in Germany, an online meme leads to an armed police raid.
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Zachary Levi
Oh, they love it.
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Morgan
Got some footage from 60 Minutes.
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Zachary Levi
60 Minutes was all for Tuesday morning. Love it. And we were with state police as they raided this apartment in northwest Germany. Inside, six armed officers searched a suspicion suspect's home, then seized his laptop and cell phone. Prosecutors say those electronics may have been used to commit a crime. The crime? Posting a racist cartoon online. At the exact same time across Germany, more than 50 similar raids played out part of what prosecutors say is a coordinated effort to curb online hack hate speech in Germany.
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Morgan
Now, I know what you're saying. Where's the meme? They didn't even place it in the story. It's not even out there. The cops aren't saying what the meme is, but they say it's a racist meme.
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Zachary Levi
First off, CBS loves all the censorship part of this. They kind of claim they don't, but Jesus Christ. You watch 60 Minutes is unwatchable now because it's been compromised and ruined and CBS is now gone as a news agency, which. Which is fucking sad. Cuz they used to be a good News agency. But they've outed themselves so no one has to watch CBS. If you want to watch that 60 Minutes, Leslie Stahl Trump interview edited versus unedited. Oh, that's some good stuff. If you want to know where 60 minutes head or sat. Like if you want to know where unbiased 60 Minutes, CBS News. If you're just curious who they would have liked to win the election, go ahead and watch that tape because that pretty much says it all. I'll take it out now. Germany's the worst.
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Morgan
Yeah.
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Zachary Levi
And I'll tell you why Germany's the worst. Germany thought at one time it was a good idea to throw Jews in ovens and now they think it's a good idea to throw a German citizen in a cage. If he made a meme that had some racial overtones, that shit is wicked, wickedy whack. That's what you call overcompensation for the sins of the past. Now what you're looking for in life is a kind of balance and a middle ground. The worst ever is the guy who's he is now a Jehovah's Witness and never stops talking about Jesus Christ and thumping the Bible in front of you.
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Morgan
Yeah, yeah.
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Zachary Levi
At some point you find out out Andy was a wild junkie who ended up. He had sex with his daughter and sold her. Sold her in Mexico. And now he's this. And then you realize, oh, this is all just compensation from being evil in the past. Except for now you're equally as fucked up. You're just going hard the other direction. See what's going on here with Germany?
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Morgan
Overcorrection.
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Zachary Levi
That's what Germany's doing. They're not, not turning into the skid. They are overcorrecting and going off the fucking side of the road. So that's them. Now there's CBS over here who cheers that on because they too would like a little more censorship brought here into the United States so they wouldn't get called out so much on being wrong, you see?
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Morgan
Yeah, yeah.
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Zachary Levi
The people who root for censorship are the people. People are fucking everything up and in charge. That's when you root for censorship.
- [107:43]
Morgan
Oh man.
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Zachary Levi
So we got that going, but I don't know when. I have no idea when journalists started arguing for censorship, which is a new thing, but that's where we're at in the United States. Cuz they're worried about mis and disinformation. Except for they never really are clear what the mis and the disinformation was. The mis and the disinformation started in Covid, and the people that are worried about mis and disinformation were the ones who were distributing mis and disinformation all the way through Covid. So I have no idea what their angle is on mis and disinformation. It seems counterintuitive to me that the ones who were distributing and the merchants of mis and disinformation all through Covid, who got everything wrong and or lied about everything, are the ones who are now very concerned about mis and disinformation. Don't get it. Although I assume it's just them lying more and worried about the truth making its way out. Well, not being good for their business.
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Morgan
You can't get busted in America for memes quite yet. And personal vice president JD Vance labeled actions Orwellian and raised concern about the potential impact on free speech protections.
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Zachary Levi
Yeah, J.D. vance went over there and told them to get their shit together and stop this shit. And then our media attacked him for telling their media to open things up. And then 60 Minutes ran this special and it's a perfect storm. But anyway, here's the good news. 60 Minutes, Minutes, CBS. You have now outed yourself to be a non credible news source. And I no longer have to hear what you have to say because you can't conduct an interview without cooking it anymore.
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Morgan
All right, well, moving on. Dramatic video shows the moment Delta plane flips over after landing in Toronto. This was a plane crash that happened.
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Zachary Levi
This is amazing because. Because commercial planes don't flip over that often without everyone dying. A huge problem. Watch what happens here. The guy lands okay, but it looks like his landing gear gives way.
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Morgan
Yeah. And it caught the engine on the ground and then it flips all the way over. What's interesting about this plane crash is that, like, everyone had their phones out immediately. And one girl was on Snapchat. Snapchatting. That shoots upside down right here on the plane.
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Zachary Levi
Wow.
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Morgan
Yeah. You know, everyone miraculously survived. Yeah. You can see people crazy. The fires on.
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Zachary Levi
That's right. I came walking in and somebody here said to me, oh, my God, another airplane. Major crash. And I said, regional jet. And they said, I don't know, man. Regular size, regular airplane. I said, regional jet. And they said, it's an airplane. Airplanes crash.
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Morgan
What do you mean?
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Zachary Levi
It's always a regional jet. That's. That's what I'm trying to help.
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Jason Mayhem Miller
Minneapolis to Toronto. So, yeah, regional.
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Morgan
Oh, okay.
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Zachary Levi
There's 80 people on board and it was full. I mean that it's a regional jet. I'm Saying you can know everything before it happens. If you know everything. So I yelled regional jet, even though I didn't know anything.
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Morgan
Now, why is the reason for that the regional jets are smaller.
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Zachary Levi
They're just that. That wouldn't have happened with probably, you know, 757 or something. Something like that. But it's still enough. 80 people's enough. People is crazy. Everyone got off. It's good.
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Morgan
Did you watch the Uruguayan rugby team who ate each other movie?
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Zachary Levi
Oh, man, I did. I watched that in the Donner Party.
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Morgan
The Donner Party has a movie? Oh, man. I'm on it. Yeah. So alive.
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Zachary Levi
It's called Alive.
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Morgan
Oh, no, there's a new one. One in Espanol.
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Zachary Levi
Rob Schneider starring it.
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Morgan
I hope so. I think so.
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Zachary Levi
He's a soccer plays a soccer coach.
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Morgan
Yeah, he does.
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Zachary Levi
Senior wences. A soccer coach.
- [111:47]
Morgan
He's got a huge mustache and some brown for some reason.
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Zachary Levi
Yeah, the. Well, the soccer team is called. That's Alive.
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Morgan
No, no, Rugby has a new one called Somebody look it up. But it's a great.
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Zachary Levi
It's Society of the Snipes. It's a remake of a Alive.
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Morgan
I mean, the book Alive. Yeah. Was written, but. Yeah, I believe so.
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Zachary Levi
Stop negating my movie. Alive.
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Morgan
No, no. Yeah. I'm all about. I'm gonna say if they did like a revamp of it.
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Zachary Levi
I get it.
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Morgan
Really.
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Zachary Levi
What's it all.
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Morgan
It's on Netflix. Yeah.
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Zachary Levi
Okay.
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Morgan
Pretty juiced up. I gotta. I gotta admit.
- [112:24]
Zachary Levi
It's a Netflix movie. Consider a remake of 93 film.
- [112:28]
Morgan
Because I thought the book was the original. Right. The guy wrote a book from his experiences.
- [112:33]
Zachary Levi
And the Glen rugby team that survived playing Fresh. Yeah, it's good. The only thing they get wrong. But it's spectacular. But they do it a lot, which is. I think they had a great plane crash scene.
- [112:49]
Morgan
Yeah. Oh, and this one too.
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Zachary Levi
And they do this scene where the whole tail section blows off. And then they're filming it and it shows just wide open. You just see snow in the background and they're coming down or whatever. If you took an airplane and you just blew off the whole tail section, it would immediately start cartwheeling backwards. There's no lift.
- [113:12]
Morgan
Yeah, yeah.
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Zachary Levi
In the back. You know what I mean?
- [113:14]
Morgan
It would just.
- [113:14]
Zachary Levi
It would just cartwheel. You wouldn't. You wouldn't get that great shot if this out.
- [113:19]
Morgan
I think they nailed it on this one. I think so.
- [113:21]
Zachary Levi
You think they got the cartwheel?
- [113:22]
Morgan
I think they got the cartwheel. Yeah. I remember distinctly the chaoticness of the. It was like they were everywhere. So I think they caught. I think they got it accurate like Neil Degrasse Tyson would like.
- [113:35]
Zachary Levi
So they were like, they got some aero physicist in there and they said, somebody.
- [113:40]
Morgan
Yeah, they said, look, if you would.
- [113:41]
Zachary Levi
Have blow the tail off a plane, what would it do?
- [113:44]
Morgan
Some black science nerd was like, okay, it's gonna flip over back this way. And you know, you gotta make sure that the shadow is like this because. Because up in the Andes, a little different. I could see, I could see it.
- [113:56]
Zachary Levi
Okay. I, I'd like to see this plane crash. I don't know if we're gonna pull.
- [114:02]
Morgan
Netflix, baby, cuz I mean, it's pretty impressive.
- [114:05]
Zachary Levi
All right.
- [114:05]
Morgan
Like, you know what? And it was not done in the cheesy Hollywood way. It really is not. It's a little bit.
- [114:11]
Zachary Levi
Well, the first one was pretty cool. It's just there's a lot of movies where they blow the whole section off and then there's a guy like standing there with nothing but open air behind me. So we gotta get off of this plane. It's like you wouldn't be doing that. You would be spinning.
- [114:24]
Morgan
Exactly.
- [114:25]
Zachary Levi
You'd be cartwheeling. Not cartwheeling, but fluttering. Spinning.
- [114:29]
Morgan
Like doing a, like a back.
- [114:31]
Zachary Levi
Yeah.
- [114:32]
Morgan
Backwards.
- [114:33]
Zachary Levi
Yes, that's. That's what it would be like. Yes.
- [114:35]
Morgan
Do a barrel roll.
- [114:36]
Zachary Levi
All right, we're looking for that.
- [114:38]
Morgan
Oh, wow.
- [114:38]
Zachary Levi
All right, let's do one more.
- [114:40]
Morgan
All right, moving in on to. Man. Let's get excited right now because a hockey match between the rival, you know, was started with the national anthem. And I gotta say, as a red blooded American who's raised on an army base, I don't like them booing the national anthem.
- [114:58]
Zachary Levi
Good for you.
- [114:59]
Morgan
Yeah.
- [114:59]
Zachary Levi
So this is in Canada.
- [115:01]
Morgan
In Canada. Montreal. Yeah. Well, maybe they're booing this guy. I, you know, I'm gonna give Canadians the benefit of the doubt, but our team did not give them the benefit of the doubt because before the first puck dropped, they got straight into it started fight.
- [115:34]
Zachary Levi
Fist the cuffs.
- [115:35]
Morgan
Just fist the Cubs, basically. Maybe. All right. Now I like this. Like kind of a judo catch on the collar.
- [115:42]
Zachary Levi
Yeah.
- [115:43]
Morgan
You know, you got to get that for a good hockey fight.
- [115:46]
Zachary Levi
Wow. Strong overhands. I gotta tell you, if one of those guys would straighten it out like the Klitschko brothers, that would be much more effective than the over the top on skates.
- [115:55]
Morgan
I played hockey as a kid on skates. Pretty hard to fight like with the straight.
- [115:59]
Zachary Levi
Right, okay.
- [116:00]
Morgan
Because you're on a skate. So you have. You Cannot push off the same way you would.
- [116:04]
Zachary Levi
Ah, that's a good point.
- [116:05]
Morgan
Yeah. Yeah.
- [116:06]
Zachary Levi
You gotta push straight, right? You gotta push off the ball, that back foot.
- [116:11]
Morgan
That's why you see, hockey fights end up with hooks. Hooks. It's all day hooks. Because they're pushing off the blade of their foot.
- [116:17]
Zachary Levi
And we ended up eating those Canucks, though, right? Yeah.
- [116:20]
Morgan
Three to one.
- [116:22]
Zachary Levi
All right, you can pause it. The Canadians. You know why the. Here's why. Everyone hates us. Everyone hates us. They think they're better than we are because they're more cultured.
- [116:35]
Morgan
I see. Yeah.
- [116:36]
Zachary Levi
And they think they're just more evolved than we are, but we end up kicking ass and fucking blondes.
- [116:42]
Morgan
Boom goes the dynamite.
- [116:44]
Zachary Levi
And it bothers them. They look at Trump as a buffoon and a joke. They do. And they look at Trudeau as culture and sort of manicured, and that's what you want in a statesman. And this guy's a big orange buffoon who likes nascar. Give me a fucking break. You know what I mean? And they think he's an idiot, but yet he kicks the shit out of Trudeau. And that's the problem. All right, we have the plane crash, by the way. We'll see if this. We'll see if this holds true. Right close up on the eye. Back blows off. Wings and. Wings and back blow off. But see, my argument is it's still holding its own.
- [117:34]
Morgan
You're right. It would be flippy. You're right.
- [117:36]
Zachary Levi
No, no, but not. Not as bad as the original. All right, that's good. I'll watch it. I love.
- [117:43]
Morgan
Oh, Sha. In it's like three hours, I think.
- [117:45]
Zachary Levi
I love snow movies. I like plane crash and snow movies.
- [117:48]
Morgan
Let me tell you, bud, it's morose.
- [117:50]
Zachary Levi
All right, all right. Oh, look at this, look at this.
- [117:53]
Morgan
Look at this, look at this. Oh, not this part.
- [117:57]
Zachary Levi
Okay, all right, all right, all right. Stop it. Sorry. I know. Shake now. All right, I'm going to be in San Luis Obiso February 28th coming up. But that show's almost sold out. But Monterey, this the next day, March 1st, that's got some tickets at the Golden State Theater and then the Uptown Theater in Napa. That's going to go, but maybe you can get a couple tickets. That's March 2nd, then off to Phoenix, Desert Ridge, Improv. That's a 14th or 15th. Back again, let's go to imcroll.com for all the live shows. Keith Carradine, everyone. The Devil and the Day Long Brothers is available wherever you find finer films. And Zachary Levi The Unbreakable Boy in theaters coming up February 21st mayhem. We get them.
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Adam Corolla
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Zachary Levi
Me on X on X. I'm.
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Morgan
I'm back on there.
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Zachary Levi
Mayhem Miller so until next time, Adam from Mayhem and Zachary and Keith saying Mahala.
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Jason Mayhem Miller
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Zachary Levi
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