Jon Taffer on Running The Troubadour and How Less Drinking Affects Restaurants

Transcript

Adam Carolla (0:00)

Well, in this episode, Jon Taffer, bar rescue. He's back in studio news with Dawson. And we'll do all that right after this.

Mike Dawson (0:09)

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Adam Carolla (0:26)

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Mike Dawson (0:57)

From corolla one studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Carolla show. Adam's guest today, the creator and host of bar Rescue restaurateur John Taffer. Plus the news with me, Mike Dawson. And now Adam Carolla.

Adam Carolla (1:12)

Yeah, get it on, got to get it on. No choice but get on the mandate. You get it on. Jon Taffer back in studio bar rescue, of course, season 10 out now on Paramount. Also, we got the bar. We have Taffer's Tavern and new locations coming up all over the place. Atlanta, Orlando. Also the bourbon. Brown butter bourbon. Delectable, by the way. Had it myself. Good to see you again, John.

John Taffer (1:43)

Good to be back in Corolla Global Enterprises here, man.

Adam Carolla (1:47)

I was thinking about you. You know, the part that people forget about with you is the sort of music background. And starting off, Sunset Strip, Louisiana. Troubadour, Barneys, Gazzari's, all that Barney's beanery. I mean, Roxy.

Mike Dawson (2:05)

Yeah.

Adam Carolla (2:06)

Whiskey. Yeah. You know, it's funny.

John Taffer (2:09)

Remember the Starwood?

Adam Carolla (2:11)

Yeah, the Starwood. I guess you'd have to ask yourself how you felt about stuff. But I found myself, and I keep finding myself going back and watching Once upon a time in Hollywood, the Tarantino film. Cause it was like it was 1968, 1969, L.A. and it was like people are flying on airplanes, drinking out of a martini glass and smoking, you know. And I think half the country would go, that's disgusting. But not the half I'm on.

John Taffer (2:50)

Summary

Adam Carolla Show — Podcast Summary
Episode: Jon Taffer on Running The Troubadour and How Less Drinking Affects Restaurants
Date: February 26, 2026
Guests: Jon Taffer (Bar Rescue), Mike Dawson (news)

Episode Overview

In this lively, candid episode, Adam Carolla welcomes Bar Rescue’s Jon Taffer back to the studio for a conversation that blends bar business insights, nostalgia for the heyday of LA nightlife, shifting American drinking culture, and sharp cultural commentary. The pair reminisce about the Sunset Strip scene, explore the economics of running restaurants and bars, and riff extensively on societal trends: rule-enforcing “Karens,” the culture of grievance, political polarization, and how evolving consumer habits—like cannabis legalization—are impacting hospitality. The discussion is signature Carolla: unfiltered, peppered with banter, honest storytelling, and plenty of rants.

Main Discussion Segments

Nostalgia & The Changing Bar Scene

[01:47–05:26]

Adam and Jon recall LA’s vibrant 1970s-80s nightlife: the Troubadour, Starwood, Barney’s Beanery, Gazzari’s, and more.
Both reminisce about an era of “freedom”—fewer rules, social boundaries were different, less societal tension, and more face-to-face interaction.
Adam jokes about “pre-AIDS, mid-Coke” as the cultural sweet spot: “Coke was not bad for you. Coke was just fun. And there's no such thing as AIDS. That was a party.” – Adam Carolla [04:22]
Jon tells stories of the “regular” side of Barney’s Beanery, how social circles operated, and the “complete freedom” that defined the time.
The hosts lament how increased rules and regulation foster social division and deputize ordinary people into enforcing rules—e.g., mask-wearing during COVID—creating new interpersonal conflicts.

Freedom vs. Regulation: How Rules Change Social Dynamics

[05:26–07:06]

Adam and Jon point to how grievance culture and the proliferation of rules empower people “offended on other’s behalf” to intervene in trivial matters.
Jon: “It's destroying our society. It's inhibiting our ability to communicate with each other, to say how we feel…” [06:54]

The Business of Bars & Restaurants: Economics, Margins, and Trends

[08:30–15:32]

Adam expresses awe at the challenge of running a restaurant: “That's a margin.” Restaurants face intense risk—tight profit margins, legal liabilities, operational headaches.
Jon shares that Taffer’s Tavern thrives by being “beverage oriented,” achieving around 50% beverage sales versus the industry norm ~18-20%.
Key bar profit margins: Bottled beer (28% cost), draft beer (22%), cocktails (~14%—higher profit). Jon: “A cocktail is 14% of twice the price.” [10:24]
Measuring drinks: Many bars use “posi-pours” or jiggers, but good bartenders develop “mechanical ability” to free pour accurately.
Trends in alcohol: The rise and fall—and resurrection—of gin, rye, and bourbon; the “tequila boom,” and how customers’ preferences drive bar inventory.
Taffer delivers a striking statistic: “There are 5,400 whiskey SKUs in America… Of that 40 [a typical bar stocks], only 17 sell. Over 70% of revenue comes from 3.” [13:09]
Jon foresees a dramatic brand shakeout: “There’s gonna be a bit of a shakeout. And all these brands that don’t mean anything are gonna go away.” [14:11]
Adam likens this to podcasting: Millions exist, few succeed.

Social Drinking is Down: The Cannabis Effect

[14:47–16:18]

Adam notes a widespread drop in alcohol consumption, joking that he tries to “make up for it.”
Taffer confirms: “Every alcohol is down. Beer is down, wine is down, carbonated seltzers are down. Everything is down.” [13:24]
Jon attributes part of the shift to cannabis: “Cannabis gets you to stay home… we’re seeing the impact of it for sure. Soon we’re gonna see cannabis bars.” [15:32]
Both discuss the difference between cannabis and alcohol as “social lubricants,” concluding that marijuana isn’t as social as drinking.

Running the Troubadour: Punk Rock and Wild Nights

[16:18–18:54]

Jon shares stories from his time managing the Troubadour in 1979—hosting punk and new wave acts like Black Flag, Adam Ant, and the Knack.
A legendary awkward moment: An agent walks into a packed fundraising night for Native Americans and yells about Redskins football—a tense, instantly memorable scene.

Understanding Drinking, Genetics, and Social Wiring

[18:54–20:26]

Adam and Jon discuss how different ethnic communities respond differently to alcohol, informed by traditional and biological factors.
Referencing debates over vaccine recommendations for different populations, they reflect on the complexity—and politicization—of acknowledging population differences.

Cultural and Political Riffs

Rules, Polarization, and Political “Traps”

[25:01–34:54]

Adam and Jon dissect how contemporary politics is less about issues and more about teams—Democrats vs. Republicans—and how public displays (“stand up for veterans”) become political traps, drawing a parallel to Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck’s “rabbit season/duck season” bit.
Adam: “Trump does… He puts them in a horrible place. He says, ‘Stand up…’ If Trump says stand up, they’re gonna sit down.” [27:55]
They talk about how in relationships (and governance), refusing to agree on any point leads to dysfunction.

The Media, Information Silos, and “The Other Side”

[34:30–35:55]

Jon: “It was a different time… we all watched the same news shows, we all got the same information.”
Adam counters that mainstream/left arguments are everywhere, while dissident or critical voices often get deplatformed: “The people I listen to got deplatformed…” [34:54]

Society, Patriotism, and “Hating America”

On Loving or Hating the U.S.

[36:54–42:44]

Adam riffs on left-wing figures (e.g., Huffington Post, “the Squad”) who claim patriotism but constantly criticize the country.
“If you love this country, then you will be screaming and celebrating… But if you hate this country… then you’re gonna be a bitch about it.” [40:01]
Jon: “They can't find joy in any of these things. It's sad… Party poopers!” [41:44]
Adam: “My thing has always been… go home and eat Häagen-Dazs out of the 1 gallon container in a bathrobe and binge watch Edgerton and cry, but leave me the fuck alone.” [41:44]
Taffer and Carolla agree that much negativity comes from personal dissatisfaction, not genuine political conviction.

Political Satire & News Commentary

Political “Award Shows,” Anti-Police Sentiment & Societal Consequences

[77:59–97:45]

Carolla and Dawson mock recent congressional ceremonies (“like an award show… you get a medal!” [79:58]) and discuss negative attitudes toward valor, veterans, and public servants.
They delve into the normalization (and political incentivizing) of antagonism toward police, e.g., New York’s mayor dismissing a violent anti-police incident as “just a snowball fight”: “It was one that got out of hand, but that’s what it was.” – NYC Mayor Mamdani [87:35]
Carolla links anti-police rhetoric to the “Ferguson Effect”: When cops are vilified, police back off, crime goes up, especially harming minority communities (citing Heather Mac Donald's stats at [91:23]).

Notable Quotes & Moments

"The rule created the tension. She is enforcing the rule. And yes, she's dumb bitch and she should shut the fuck up." – Adam [06:23]
"It's destroying our society. It's inhibiting our ability to communicate with each other, to say how we feel with each other." – Jon Taffer [06:54]
"There are 5,400 whiskey SKUs in America… Over 70% of the revenue comes from the top 3." – Jon Taffer [13:09]
"Cannabis gets you to stay home… I'm still not sure that cannabis is the socialization tool that drinking is." – Jon Taffer [15:32]
"If you love this country… you'll be screaming and celebrating… But if you hate this country… shut up." – Adam Carolla [40:01]
"They can't find joy in any of these things. It's sad. Party poopers!" – Jon Taffer [41:44]
“The excuses, they're miserable, but then go home and kill yourself. Don't make me miserable.” – Adam [41:44]
"It's not a snowball fight, it's you being pelted with snowballs." – Adam [84:41]
"That's the real scourge [of DEI]: we assume you got pushed to the front of the line… may be true, but also may not be true." – Adam [101:45]

Timestamps for Important Segments

01:47–05:26 — LA nightlife stories, bar culture nostalgia
05:26–07:06 — Rules, tension, and “Karens”
08:30–15:32 — Running bars/restaurants, alcohol economics, and trends
15:32–16:18 — Rise of cannabis, impact on social drinking
16:18–18:54 — Troubadour punk stories, wild moments
13:09, 14:11 — Market “shakeout,” whiskey brands
25:01–34:54 — Political polarization, Bugs Bunny/Trump metaphor
36:54–42:44 — American patriotism, left vs. right, “party poopers”
44:07–47:47 — Extremes: crime, ethics, human nature
77:59–84:41 — Political ceremonies, veteran recognition, anti-cop sentiment
91:23 — “Ferguson effect,” policing, crime stats

Tone & Style

Unapologetically candid, irreverent, and combative—typical Carolla.
Mix of sharp business insight (from Taffer), reminiscence, and biting humor.
Segmented with news, rants, and stories—sometimes veering to philosophical or polemical territory.
Blunt, direct language—explicit where warranted, filled with punchlines.

Conclusion

Jon Taffer and Adam Carolla deliver a compelling exploration of America’s shifting bar culture, economics, and social mores—anchored by nostalgia for an era of fewer rules and more spontaneous human connection. The episode weaves practical bar industry know-how with acerbic commentary on rules, grievance culture, political tribalism, and the everyday impacts of regulatory change. Listeners are treated to both behind-the-scenes business realities and sprawling, unsparing takes on contentious social issues.

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