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Adam Carolla
Hey, in this episode, Scott Galloway, the professor, comes on to share his wisdom. Dawson has the news and we'll do all that right after this.
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Mike Dawson
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Mike Dawson
From Corolla 1 Studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Corolla show. Adam's guest today, writer, professor and the host of the Profit G podcast with Scott Galloway. Scott Galloway, the news with me, Mike Dawson. And now, coincidentally, earlier today he watched a porno called Discharge Petition. Adam Carolla.
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Adam Carolla
Professor Scott Galloway is back on the show. Scott's got a book out which was number one last time I checked on New York Times and maybe Amazon. Doing real well. It is called Notes on Being a Man. Also the podcast Professor G Pod with Scott Galloway as well. Good to see you, Scott.
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Scott Galloway
Yeah, good to see you, Adam.
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Adam Carolla
I like your message. I thought you did a great job on Bill Maher. I think it was last week. Yeah. This is a thing and it's a problem and the whole sort of male situation. And it's interesting because it's not a popular thing to bring up or defend because it always sounds like you're attacking women halfway into it. So it's something that got kind of swept under the rug for a while. But I've definitely been sounding the alarm on this subject for a long time. But again, it's not a popular subject to discuss. But why don't you give us some relevant statistics and facts in terms of males over the last few years and where they've been going in this country.
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Scott Galloway
Sure. So again, thanks for having me. And you have. I really do appreciate you. You have been talking about this for a while and so just some basic stats. If you walk into a morgue and there's five people who've died by suicide, four are men. We have an opiate and a homeless crisis, but what we really have is a male opiate and a male homeless crisis. Three times as likely to be addicted, three times as likely to be homeless, 12 times as likely to be incarcerated. More single women own homes than single men. Now women in urban areas are making more money than men. And by the way, I want to be clear, we should do nothing to get in the way of progress for women. This is a wonderful thing. If we hadn't let women in the factories in World War II, it would have taken longer to win it. Economic growth in the US was dependent upon women entering the workforce in the 60s and 70s, but there's just no getting around it. If, if any special interest group was killing themselves at four times the rate of the control group, we'd weigh in with programs. And the problem is, is that these kids, these young men, are paying the penalty for what was disproportionate, unearned advantage of men of our generation. So from 1945 to 2000, a third of the world's economic growth was crammed into the 5% of the population that lived in America. And then within that 5%, most of the opportunity, not all of it, but most of it was crammed into the third of the population that was white, heterosexual and male. I had unfair advantage. But the question is, should a 19 year old male that doesn't have nearly the advantage I had pay the price? So there is a lack of empathy for these young men. I went to the Democratic National Convention, a parade of special interest groups on stage talking about the very real struggles non whites and women still face. I get it $0.77 on the dollar when they have kids. Latino and black families, $23,000 in wealth, household wealth versus 160 for white families. There are still very real issues. But this is not a zero sum game. You know, gay marriage didn't hurt heteronormative marriage, civil rights didn't hurt white people. And recognizing the very real struggles young men are facing right now does not in any way mean that we have to stop the ascent of women. And the last point I'll make is the far right saw the problem first, they recognized it first. I would argue the problem is in the remedy. And that is they want to take women and non whites back to the 50s. At the same time the left, their answer is, well, you don't have problems, you are the problem. And if you just act more like a woman, which I don't think is productive either. So there seems to be an absence of a middle ground where we can at least acknowledge that these young men are having real trouble and to come together on common sense solutions. So I think this is a problem that has gone on way longer and has gotten much worse than it needed to. Because quite frankly, people just look at young men and go, what? You've had a 3,000 year head start, we don't feel sorry for you. This is your fault, so to speak.
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Adam Carolla
Well, few thoughts, not to turn political, but the far right, as a guy who's basically on the right, is much fringier than the left, which is a little more mainstream within the party. They always go the far right and the far left, but the far right, I know a lot of conservative people and I know a lot of Republicans, but I don't know anyone who wants to bring blacks and women back to the 50s. That's a super small, deep cut minority. It's not a mainstream thing. I think on the left, in terms of how they think about white males, that's a larger group that's a little more in the zeitgeist of that group. And that's why they're able to affect it the way they are. I don't have, there may be, I don't know, Ted Nugent may want to bring women and blacks back to the 50s, but he's gonna have an uphill battle because most the Ben Shapiro's of the world don't want to go along with him. And I would say most of the folks I know on the right aren't down with any of that stuff. But bigger picture, can I just push back on that?
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Scott Galloway
I appreciate global conversation and one of the things I like about this discourse is I don't know you that well, but my sense is you're center right. I would describe Myself as center left. And we can both have a reasonable conversation and not necessarily agree, but hopefully craft better solutions. But I would argue right now, Nick Fuentes of Groipers, supposedly about a third of White House staffers on the right are advocates of this guy. And this is an individual who absolutely wants to take women back to the, to the 50s and 60s. And also I would argue that the overturn of Roe v. Wade, if you think about taking away a woman's bodily autonomy, what is most mendacious about that over the last 10 years, Adam, is that I don't see it as a war on women. I see it as a war on poor women. And that is if you and I have a woman in our lives who gets pregnant and we want to terminate the pregnancy, we have money. We'll figure it out. But I definitely think there is an element of the right that unwittingly has set non whites and women back. And also, I think traditional GOP values couldn't be more different. You know, let's remember Lincoln freed the slaves. It was democrats in the 50s and 60s who, quite frankly, were, were, you know, advocates of more of segregation in the South. But I do think some of the issues on the right are maybe inadvertently or intentionally thinking that if we go back to a simpler time where maybe non whites and women had less opportunity, that we will solve some of these problems. And at the same time, the far left becomes accidentally racist when they take DEI policies so far that if the snake starts eating its tail and they start sequestering Jews from going on campus at ucla. So I've always. The far right and the far left are a lot more similar than people think.
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Adam Carolla
No, I agree. I don't think Nick Fuentes, I don't, you know, I don't think he has. He may be a name that everyone knows and he may have some popularity, but I don't think his policy, I don't think anything he thinks can ever turn into policy. I don't think he has sway everyone. If his name ever comes up in any circle I'm in with Republicans, they're always like, that guy's a jackass and he's dangerous and that's the only thing I hear about him. But there is a thing that we tapped into or you tapped into, which is interesting, which is, I do think, and maybe this is part of the problem in terms of the communication, I think there's a lot of people I know that want to go back to the 50s for traditional values, so to speak, where neighbors knew each other and you could leave your door unlocked. And the schools were good and there wasn't crime and graffiti and stuff like that. There's a kind of a nostalgic 50s kind of yearning. And then I think the left associates that with all things from the 50s, like Jim Crow and segregation and women barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen and stuff. Most of the people I know who look at like, I have described my old neighborhood when I used to live in La Canada, California as a throwback to the 50s. But what I meant is families walking the streets and no crime and no graffiti. I wasn't talking about segregation or two drinking fountains or anything like that. So Sometimes there's a 50s conflation where they go, oh, you want to go back to everything from the 50s? And it's like, no, not everything from the 50s. Not Jim Crow and not women barefoot and pregnant, but they sort of church, community, families, picnics, neighbors, like that's the kind of thing. So I think there's a little, I think sometimes it gets cross pollinated a little into. You want to go back to a time where this existed, but that's not what people are talking about when they say the 50s. But all that as it may, I think the problem is what happened was, and it's something I bring up a lot, which is we wanted to advance women. And that was a noble thought. And everyone signed off on that thought. And I think the thing that we're starting to realize is advancing women is a good thing. But eventually you figure out who was oppressing women and you have to go after them. So it's sort of like saying you want as many. Let's say there's not enough blacks and Hispanics in ucla. They're not represented in the student body of ucla. So you go, let's get more blacks and Hispanics enrolled at ucla. And you think, that's a good thought, that's a noble thought. But at a certain point you have to discriminate against Asians because there's too many of them at ucla. So it's not just a thing where you go, we're going to help this side. Eventually you have to turn your sights towards somebody else and go, well, you can't just be a Baltimore Ravens fan forever without eventually learning to hate the Pittsburgh Steelers. It starts off as, I love the Ravens, but at some point there's a guy in a Steelers jersey and you have to beat the shit out of him. And that's kind of the era that we're entering into. We started off by saying we need to advance women. And eventually we found young white males and said, oh, they're the Pittsburgh Steelers. And that's kind of what we entered here.
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Scott Galloway
Yeah, a lot there. So first off, with nostalgia, by its very definition, we tend to inflate how good those times were. Like, I've always said, I'll opt for Netflix and Novocaine. And actually I think if you look.
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Adam Carolla
Crime and an iPhone.
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Scott Galloway
Yeah, I think if you look at crime rates, I'm not sure crime was any better than it is now. I'd be curious to see those stats. I think we remember it as being better because there was less safety ism. I mean, I lived in the San Fernando Valley and then in Westwood. I used to leave my mom's house, raised by a single immigrant mother, on a Saturday morning with an Abu Zaba bar, a schwinn bike and 35 cents, and I'd come home 14 hours later. Now if my kid's 15 minutes late from his school, we call fucking MI6 and expect the helicopter ship to show up. The safety ism. So I think like I'm all about 80s music because I think Tom Petty is the greatest artist ever. But I forget that we also had Falco and Bobby McFerrin and Tony Basil. I mean, it just wasn't all great, right?
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, no, I. Do you know what I think when it comes to crime, you're probably right. But we probably had crime that was of a different nature. Like a sort of organized versus pushing people onto the subway. You know, kind of random, scary crime.
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Scott Galloway
And it wasn't in your Instagram feed.
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Adam Carolla
Well, that. That's.
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Scott Galloway
You didn't see it. It wasn't thrown in your face.
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Adam Carolla
That's true.
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Scott Galloway
Sensationalist. But just back to your point, I.
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Adam Carolla
Just want to real quickly. Cause somebody looked it up and put it on a screen. Crime rates in the United States were significantly lower in the 50s compared to subsequent decade, particularly after the 60s. So it was lower. But I get what you're saying. I wouldn't trade the Novocaine and the Netflix and the smartphone.
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Scott Galloway
But what you said rings true. And that is so my brothers and sisters on the left, we start off with the right intentions. This is what I see as the algorithm of the cadence of the curve of politics in America. Generally speaking, Democrats have to start with the right idea. And that is. Okay, 1960, there's 12 black people at Harvard, Princeton and Yale combined. Just 12 people, all three schools. That's a problem. So we have race based affirmative action. That makes sense. This year, 55% of Harvard's freshman class identifies as non white, but 70% of those parents of those kids come from dual income, upper income homes. So the question is, does race based affirmative action still make sense? And the reason why we still have it is because, and I know this firsthand, we build these huge apparatuses of people who get paid really good money to think big thoughts about diversity, equity and inclusion. My view is that anytime you have a DEI department anywhere, it's already one of the most diverse, equitable and inclusive places on earth to begin with. And I like what you said. We don't update and we take it too far. And what UCLA did in 1997 is the right way. And that is I believe in affirmative action. I think almost all Democrats and a lot of Republicans believe that some people are born with wins in their face and they could use a hand up. The question is, what is the metric for identifying who gets a hand up? And I think the University of California got it right in 1997 when they moved to an adversity index. They said it's no longer race based. I'm the beneficiary of affirmative action. I got unfair advantage because I was considered in the lower quartile of income earning homes. My mother was a secretary and it was just her. I got Pell grants and I think that's the way we should go. But unfortunately at Michigan, they have a 200 person DEI department. And so what are they doing recruiting white kids from Kentucky because those are the ones who are most underrepresented now in Michigan. So we take things too far and then the Republicans, the far right, weigh in with something equally batshit crazy. And the statement that summarizes politics in America for me right now is if progressives won't enforce the border, fascists will. So Democrats think it's okay to let a quarter of a million people pour across the border by just raising their hand and saying asylum. All right? They think it's okay for a 6 foot 5 transgender woman to show up to an NC2A swim meet. These things are just fucking crazy. And then what happens? Republicans weigh in? Or the far right weighs in and starts pulling the names of gay people off of ships. Harvey Milk, first openly gay elected public official, a small nod to the gay community, Take his name off a ship. I just see that as a big fuck you to the gay community that is unneeded. They are kicking transgender people out of the military. They are passing laws in South Dakota that doesn't allow transgender athletes. And then when someone actually asked Are there any transgender athletes in high school in South Dakota? They couldn't find one. It's as if there's no goddamn middle ground anymore. The left goes crazy. It's well intentioned, but they take shit way too far. We stick out our chin and then this fists of stone, which quite frankly is sometimes coarse and cruel, weighs in. To me, that is the cadence of American politics right now. We go too far on the left, the right moves in with something crazy that quite frankly can come across as a bit oppressive and cruel.
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Adam Carolla
Well, what you're talking about is when they, when they started pushing real hard in California for electric vehicles and hybrids and Priuses, and I think Newsom made a proclamation about getting. Doing away with all internal combustion engines by 220, 30 or something like that. I started noticing a lot of Dodge Ram pickup trucks with lift kits and fun and mud tires on them. I started noticing gigantic pickup trucks everywhere. And it's Los Angeles, right? So the thing about Los Angeles is there's not a lot of hunters and there's not a lot of guys doing off roading because actually the highways are sort of like off roading because all the potholes and how well maintained they are. But I've lived here my whole life. I drove a mini truck when I was a carpenter, a Datsun because I had to drive a mini truck. And other guys I work with drove F150s. Occasionally you'd see a big dually if a guy had a boat or something. But these guys are driving $125,000 dually Ram 350 fully loaded with the Remington package on it and interior and stuff. These trucks are not going off road. These guys are not in the trades. These guys are not hauling boats. They're just saying fuck you to the person that told me I had to get an electric car.
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Scott Galloway
And I think a lot of it, though, is also expressing their masculinity. Yeah, yeah.
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Adam Carolla
But what I'm saying is, is if you, you if. When you don't push, you get a bunch of people in Camrys. When you start pushing, you get a lot of people in electric cars and then some people in Dodge Rams. And it creates this thing, this backlash, this reaction. Huel. All right, well, you know how Huell works. The mornings, they be a little chaotic. You're juggling, you're walking the dog. Emails, keys. Where are they? Breakfast? Well, sometimes you just down a cup of coffee. I used to do that. Then I found out about Hewell Black Edition. Seriously, grabbing this on the way out saves my whole Morning. Fall is here. So school, work, everything's ramping up. And you want a meal. Not a candy bar, not a latte. Huel, spelled H U E L gets it. Their black edition powder is complete. It's a meal. It's a complete meal. So you feel full, focused and ready for your day. And get this, they just dropped the Huel Daily Greens. Ready to drink. First of its kind. It's your greens, but sparkling in a can. No powders, no nonsense. Just pop the top. It's got a little sparkle to it. It tastes good as well. Made by real dietitians. Am I right, Dawson?
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Mike Dawson
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Adam Carolla
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Adam Carolla
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Scott Galloway
Trevor, Noah's kids do not need any help.
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Adam Carolla
That is correct.
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Scott Galloway
Letting in the private equity billionaire Taiwanese daughter into Stanford, that is not adding diversity. Affirmative action, in my view, is a wonderful thing. It should be based on color, but that color is money. If you're, if you're in the top 1% of income earning households, you're 77 times more likely as a kid to go to an elite school than the bottom 99%. People in the bottom 1% live 12 years less long, they die 12 years earlier than people in the top 1%. Every forward looking indicator of your success in America used to be about grit and talent. Now it's about how rich your parents are. So if we're going to adjust anything, base it on the income of the household that kid is growing up in.
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Adam Carolla
I agree. And then also there is a safety net and there's generational wealth. I mean there's just property is owned and assets are had. And you have a safety net when you come from something. When you don't, there's no net. So some of the stuff you write about in your book, Notes on being a Man, you have some of the tenants here and I found some of them and I singled them out and thought we could go over some of those. Get out of the house. Action absorbs anxiety. And I do love the first off, I love that most of this stuff is just what I call diet and exercise, like stuff your grandpa could have told you. You know, real basic shit like you wanna lose Weight? Yeah. Diet and exercise. Enough. You're good. We know. We're all experts. Now get out of the house. Move. You know, but tell me about it. Get out of the house. Action absorbs anxiety.
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Scott Galloway
Men 20 to age 20 to 30 are spending less time outdoors now than prison inmates. And really, you're up against 40% of the S and P by market value. The most valuable companies in history have one objective, and that's to sequester you from relationships in the outdoors. And that is for every minute, every incremental minute, they can get you on your phone, on a screen, and away from your friends and real life activity and exercise and making money, they get another 20 to 30 billion dollars in market cap.
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Adam Carolla
Wow.
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Scott Galloway
So they are purposely designing a world where they're trying to convince young people, especially young men whose brains are more susceptible to that constant dopa that's been engineered into online platforms. They're trying to convince you that why would you go through the pecking order of having friends when you have Reddit and discord? Why would you put on a tie or try and develop a podcast or apply for a job, navigate the corporate world when you can trade stocks or crypto on Coinbase or on Robinhood? And why on earth would you try and work out, figure out a way to develop a kindness practice, develop a sense of humor, develop the resilience and the confidence to approach strangers and express romantic interest while making them feel safe when you have lifelike synthetic porn at home. And so, unfortunately, I think we have connected our economy. Adam, America right now is a big bet on AI. If AI goes into the tank, we're in a global recession. We have connected our economy to an objective, and that objective is the following. We are trying to evolve a new species of asocial, asexual males. And without being in the company of strangers, I think people slowly but surely become anxious, obese and depressed. We're mammals. We're meant to be on top of each other, if not next to each other. You want to see an animal go crazy? Put an orca in a tank alone. See what happens. The worst thing you can do to a human is solitary confinement. I don't know if you have dogs. Leave your dog alone without another dog or another human and see what happens. So I think slowly but surely we're going to see fewer and fewer men out in the wild. And what I tell, because I think they're just going to be in their basements with a low, kind of low calorie, low fat simile version of life. And what I say to I coach a lot of young men and this is the bottom line. The more time you spend on a screen, the less money you're going to make. The more likely you're going to be to be obese, the less likely you're going to have sex, the less likely you're going to get married, the more likely you're going to engage in self harm. Screen time is literally the toxin right now. There's just no getting around everything. I'm not suggesting you can't be great at computers, I'm not suggesting you shouldn't be on social media. I don't even tell young men not to engage in porn. But keep in mind, if you lose the mojo to go out and meet women and try and make your own bad porn, you're never going to develop a real sense of victory or great relationships. And if I ask somebody what are the most rewarding things in their life, they always say they're relationships. And the thing about relationships is they happen in person and they're off the screen. The most wonderful things in your life are not going to happen on a screen. And we've attached our economy to the objective of keeping young people on a screen. And the most vulnerable and susceptible to those algorithms are young men.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, well, we're kind of conducting an experiment and everything is happening so fast because of technology. And it used to be when we lived in a sort of tactile analog world, stuff took a little while. It took a while from the Wright brothers first plane in I don't know, 1903 or whatever it is to World War II and you know, P150 Mustangs flying at 450 miles an hour. And then we got into the jet age and stuff. But stuff, when stuff is mechanical and analog, it just physically takes a while to progress. Automobiles and horse and buggies and stuff like that. When stuff is digital it moves really fast because there physically aren't moving parts to create friction and slow it down. And so we're conducting an experiment right now because we've taken a whole bunch of people that were living in an analog world and we threw them into this environment and you know, people rode horses and then at some point everyone drove cars. But that took six that there was 50 years in between there of acclimation. We're going to get the bends because we're doing an experiment where people aren't decompressing. They're just going from 1,000ft below the sea level and they're zooming right to the surface. And it's gonna cause deaths and it's gonna cause chaos and it's gonna cause problems, and some people are gonna flourish, but a lot of people aren't going to be able to cope with it or even sort of be ready with it. And I would argue that the treadmill was invented because people were getting fat and sedentary and we had to simulate walking to a well or walking on a ranch or doing something physical, even though we were in our apartments in Manhattan, 12 stories above the street. So we understood sort of physically that, look, we needed to simulate this life that's in a bygone era. People used to walk to school and walk to the market and walk to the well with a gourd on their head. We don't do it anymore. Everyone has a car now and light rail and sit and a cubicle. So someone invented a treadmill. And we understood, yes, you must simulate walking on this thing, even if you're watching tv. But we haven't really taken that lesson mentally with all of the technology and all the screens and the digital world. And we're gonna have to start impos that on ourselves, like you. We're going to have to get a basically a treadmill approach to modern technology. Things like, I'm sitting in this studio. I sit here every day for two hours. Ask me where my phone is. The answer is not here. I won't bring it into the studio. Because you can say, well, what if you just had it on airplane mode? Or you didn't? My answer is just, I'm not bringing it into the studio. I won't do it because I have to play little tricks on myself like the treadmill to create some bygone era where there weren't any phones. So for two hours a day, I won't own a phone. And I'm not saying I'm smart or hero or anything. I'm saying you're gonna have to start creating these things for yourself. You're gonna have to take a hike for an hour in nature and no bringing your phone. Or if you do, you can only listen to classical music and go. And my whole thing is wash your own car, go clean your own garage, go build a tree house, build a fort with your kid. Like, get a project going, get out, get tactile, get involved.
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Scott Galloway
I love that. Yeah. If you look at the most profitable companies in history, they're kind of the chocolate and peanut butter is they tap into a flaw in the instincts and our instincts. And like you said, they can scale because they're digital, and there's no friction. There's no factories, there's no trucks. But if you think about when we came off the savannah, there was an absence of sugary, salty, and fatty food, absence of mating opportunities. Only 80% of women have reproduced, only 40% of men. And an absence of kind of free, safe play. And our instincts haven't caught up to the industrial production of these things. So we develop addictions to trans fats, obesity. We develop addictions to porn. We develop addictions to gambling. And then you have a company that can scale these things and figure out the exact right product at the exact right moment to give you that dopa hit. And you end up with the most profitable companies in history. And just as like, the next thing I'm really worried about, Adam, is synthetic relationships and pornography. I think porn is going to become so lifelike. You're in L. A. I went to UCLA. I graduated a 2.27 GPA. One of the reasons I went on campus is that one, I wanted to see my buddies. Two is a beautiful campus, but also it was like something out of a Cinemax film. There were so many hot women everywhere, and there was a non zero, a remote but a non zero possibility I would meet a woman, establish a relationship, get her to come out with me, and potentially have sex with her. That was hugely motivating for me. Had I had synthetic, lifelike porn on my phone and computer 24 by 7, I'm not sure I would have gone on campus as much. And I needed to go on campus when I went on because, see above, I graduated the 2.27 GPA. And I think when you look at the expense, the shaming, and the risk right now of approaching going out and trying to meet somebody and express romantic interest while making them feel safe, a lot of men are just opting out. 63% of men under the age of 30 have decided they're no longer trying to date. And this is the scariest one. 45% of men 18 to 24 have never asked a woman out in person. So what you have is a series of frictionless platforms that say, no, life and relationships are easier over here. And the real victory comes from friction. The real skills comes from navigating that hard stuff. So you take the fact that our instincts have not caught up to institutional production of these things, and you have the deepest pocketed companies figuring out a way to tap into that flaw in your species at scale, and you end up with externalities the likes of which we just haven't seen, we have the most anxious generation in history, despite the fact that it is. There is an argument that these kids are living a better life than the richest person 100 years ago. There is some truth to that. But they feel anxious. They feel they're more obese than ever before. They don't like to go out. And a lot of them were kind of evolving this economically unviable group. And then the knock on effect of all of this is that and we don't like to talk about this, men mate socioeconomically horizontally and down, women horizontally and up. 75% of women say that economic viability is really important in a mate. It's only 25% of men care about a woman. And that's that Chris Rock joke. Beyonce could work at McDonald's and Mary Jay Z, but not vice versa. And when we're producing an entire generation of economically and emotionally unviable men, there's just less mating. 60% of 30 year olds used to have one child in the house. Now it's 27%. So we're separating from each other, we're not having sex and we're not forming families. And what it ends up is those relationships are actually more important to men. It ends up that men need relationships more than women. Widows are happier after their husband dies. Widowers are less happy after their wife dies. Women in relationships live two to four years longer. Men live four to seven years longer. And there's just a lot of men who are falling into the following category. If they haven't cohabitated or married someone by the time they're 30, there's a 1 in 3 chance they're going to be a substance abuser. So you have a group of young people that, and there's a lot of things they can't afford. Homes, more expensive education. But also they're just not connecting with school, with work, and most importantly, they're not connecting with relationships. And I think big tech, there's a lot of things, socioeconomic, biological reasons, but I think the primary culprit, call it 30 or 40% of it, is this indomitable, well resourced foe trying to convince them they don't need to be mammals. They can have a life inside of their basement.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah. So much to think about. Well, we as human beings will oftentimes take the path of least resistance. Most people will just do that. It's a sort of default setting. So you go, and historically that's sort of how it works. So you know, in the past you go, I'm hungry. Okay. We'll take this spear and walk barefoot in a loincloth and see if you come across a wild boar and risk getting killed yourself, getting gored by the boar and so on and so forth. And then at some point, somebody said, well, what if somebody else killed the boar and just sold you the boar and you traded them some service and.
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Scott Galloway
You could say super size for a small amount.
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Adam Carolla
Right. Well, you know, and then it became there was a butcher, and then there was a supermarket, and then there was people bringing food, and now it's food to your house. Right? So we will always take the least resistant path. We're essentially water just going down the gutter. And if there's a twig in front, we'll go to the right and there's a leaf on the right. We'll move back to left. We'll just flow wherever the least resistance is. Now, there's a lot of people, men and women, sort of stoic types and stuff, who go, no, I'm gonna jump in a freezing lake and I'm gonna sit in a sauna that's 200 degrees, and then I'm doing a tough mudder. But that's kind of rare. Most people are sort of a least resistance. And so you're creating a life where there's sort of least resistance, and don't be surprised when people take them up on it. And that's exactly what most people are doing now. In the past, you didn't really have a choice. You had to go out and hunt, or at least you had to go to the supermarket. But there wasn't an opportunity for people to bring everything to you, which is now. I mean, even stupid stuff like TaskRabbit. I can't tell you how many times I've said, I'll just hang those pictures in the hall over the weekend. And my girlfriend has said, no, just call TaskRabbit. And then I go, no, no, I'll do it. And she goes, yeah, but call TaskRabbit. I don't know. I don't know who's smart and who's dumb and who's right and who's wrong. But what I'm saying is all these businesses have popped up. I mean, there's businesses will come to your house and detail your car, and there's also ones that come to your home and fill up your car with gasoline. And I don't say that all of it is bad. I'm just saying there is gonna be no resistance. We are creating a society. And at some point, maybe if Andrew Yang gets his way, we'll have universal income, and then at some point, you'll never have to leave the house or have a girlfriend or. Or go on the proverbial hunt again. Also, we're all narcissists, sort of by trade. And I don't mean everybody's a sociopathic narcissist. The way we are as human beings, and I've experienced it, is I was at a party at Dr. Drew's house and his wife hired a psychic. And these are a bunch of adults who are college educated, mostly with advanced degrees. And all of them, if you would have said to them, do you see a psychic? They'd say no. And they'd go, are psychics real? And they'd go, I don't believe in that bullshit. But if you're at a party and somebody's sitting there, all of a sudden there's a line of people that want to go hear what the psychic has to say. Why? Because it's about them. It's a narcissism thing. And that narcissism thing, when you're on that screen and somebody said something about you or there's something in a comment page or someone has tweeted at you, good or bad, and maybe even more when it's bad. That narcissism thing, which is the sleeping giant in all of us that we were supposed to sort of tamp down with the golden rule and religion and good coaches and good parents and stuff, that's all gone now. And the tech companies have figured out they can get to that nerve, that narcissism nerve, and it'll draw everybody in to find out about them themselves. So between the path of least resistance and the narcissism, we are set up. We're set up like bowling pins just waiting to be knocked down.
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Scott Galloway
So just on the notion of restaurants and frictionless, there's now, I just read a study that said in the uk, I'm living in London right now, that the majority of food prepared in restaurants is not eaten in the establishment. It's similar to them, really.
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Adam Carolla
Wow.
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Scott Galloway
And if you think of the importance of just being in a collective and very basic, just eating around other people, having the discipline to put on clothes, look decent, maybe talking to someone, interacting with a service professional, we're even opting out of that. And you said something that inspired a thought, like, I want to hang pictures. Quite frankly, I think you do that because you can, but also because, quite frankly, Adam, it makes you more attractive. You get to demonstrate excellence. And what I Say if you talk to couples who've been married longer than 30 years, in almost, in 80% of the cases, one was much more interested than the other in the beginning. And it was almost always the man. Men are much less choosy than women because of the downside of sex is so much greater for women than it is for men. If you're in a room of 100 men and 100 women, if there's alcohol involved, the majority of the men would agree to have sex with the majority of the women. The majority of the women would have sex with none of the men. None. Women are just much choosier. Look, we don't like to talk about this stuff openly and honestly, but men, for thousands of years have been trained that our job is to spread our seed to the four corners of the earth. I mean, look at who Arnold Schwarzenegger decided to have a kid with.
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Adam Carolla
All right, so pirate. She was a pirate lady. She was right off a galleon.
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Scott Galloway
I mean, this is, this is fucking Arnold Schwarzenegger, the best looking guy in the world and very wealthy. Anyways, and then, no, I'm only laughing.
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Adam Carolla
Because the woman was in her 50s and there seemed to be only one picture that existed of her and that was on Halloween in a pirate's outfit. And that's the only one we ever saw which made it that much more comical. But you're 100% correct.
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Scott Galloway
So how do men break through that, get through that filter? Women have been trained for thousands of years to put up a finer filter for mating so they can pick the strongest, smartest and fastest seed. And it's the reason why your kids are going to be taller and smarter than you and mine as well. That's the basis of evolutionary progress. Seed trying to get everywhere. Finer filter. The way that eventually these couples ended up together was that the man had an opportunity to demonstrate excellence. I liked how he treated his parents at church. We hung out. I found out with friends. I found out he was funny. I liked the way he danced. I worked with him. And he was so good at what he did, I found myself attracted and drawn to him. Where does a man in a world of remote work, a lack of church attendance, not going to school, where do men demonstrate excellence now? And so what you have is there's just fewer venues for a man to demonstrate excellence. And now that everything's gone online, it gets reduced down to a small number of dimensions. And a lot of people, a lot of women now and are trained this way a little bit from media to say, you're a strong, independent woman. And every yellow flag is a red flag. And unfortunately online it distills down to two basic criteria for men. Your ability to signal wealth or worth through your Rolex accidentally ends up in the profile picture. Or you drop that you work at Google and graduated from Dartmouth and your height. And I don't know if you've seen this thing online, but when they ask women what are your minimum standards? The two most common responses or criteria are 6ft 6 figures. 6ft 6 figures. That's the basic and they and the general view when you hear these women say this is that that's not a lot to ask. Just 6ft 6 figures. If you take out married men, obese men and men over the age of 50, that's 2% of the population. And so we're training. I mean, when I coach young men and they'll say I want to move out of my apartment, I want to get a job. And then eventually as I get to know them, they say I'd really like a girlfriend. And when we get to the talk about the girlfriend, the first thing I ask is, would you have sex with you? Are you working out? Do you take pride in your appearance? Do you have a plan? Do you have a kindness practice? Right. And then the advice I give to women is what I call second coffee. And that is even if the guy doesn't check all the boxes initially, maybe give him a second chance or a second coffee. Because the majority of long term relationships the woman did not see sparks in the beginning. I am not telling women to lower their standards. I'm suggesting that historically the history and data around mating is that without a venue for the man to demonstrate excellence over multiple interactions, it limits your ability to find someone you connect with. And your hanging pictures is an opportunity to demonstrate excellence, like being handy. You know, that is quite frankly, that is very appealing on an anthropological level. It means you can build housing. It means you're strong, it means you have skills. Where does a dude demonstrate excellence right now? Like what venues does he get this chance to demonstrate? I'm a good dancer, I'm funny, I'm kind. Where does that happen now?
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Adam Carolla
Now. You're. You're right. I mean, it used to be a guy would pull up on a motorcycle and you'd go, okay, that guy knows how to ride a motorcycle. Like he can handle. Yeah, but there was something about being able to handle a motorcycle. Like that was a thing. And then there were skill sets and trades and you're right. Dancing and things. And even a protection sort of thing if another guy was getting out of line. And it is interesting. And you're right, we don't really have venues for that to show off that excellence anymore. And I guess a sense of humor is one that's still probably in play. I've also noticed that men, younger men in general, are just kind of detuned. We retarded their growth and we sort of. They're just kind of detuned. And the example that I would always say is there's also mentorship issue. Like, I've been here for 16 years, I've employed a ton of guys under the age of 30, and no one has ever asked me, hey, can I chew on your ear for a minute? Can I ask you a couple of questions or do you think we could get lunch one of these days and I could just sort of ask you how things work for you? And some things. Let me just pick your brain for a minute. It's never been discussed. I brought it up many times into this microphone and there's nobody in this building that's ever asked me to talk outside of this building, ever. Actually, one time I was supposed to meet with a young guy who I was thinking about employing, who was going to write. And at the last minute he canceled. And I was gonna have lunch with him and sort of tell him what I was looking for. He canceled and we never rescheduled. So there's a weird kind of mentorship thing that there's a problem, there's a disconnect there. There's also a kind of a motor thing, which is this one is not on women, this one's more on society with this sort of work life balance thing that, you know, when I met, and I've said it a few times, but when I met Jimmy Kimmel, that guy was 26 years old. He didn't have a work life balance. He had two young kids and a wife, but he was here to work. And he would do weekends and he would show up at the station at 4 in the morning and he would come through that door every day at four in the morning with a pile of newspapers, with articles and clippings and ideas, and he would stay late and produce recordings and parody songs and stuff that he wasn't even involved with, he would get himself involved with. And he was always good to go. And there was no, you know, he didn't have it. He never said, that's not my job. You know, at some point, if Tori Amos would show up and she'd go, I want a coffee. They'd go look at Jimmy and go, go down the lobby and get Tori Amos a coffee. And he'd just go. He wouldn't go, that's not my, not my job. I'm here to do sports or whatever, whatever it was. And there was a kind of an energy and an eagerness to it that I've not seen in any person I've employed here for 15 years. I've never seen any weekend work. I've never seen any, hey, I got an idea. I've never heard any enthusiasm. It's like a kind of a. And I don't know if it's a lot of edibles and a lot of porn and like a lot of satiation or like too much Netflix or something, but whatever that fire in the belly or eye of the tiger kind of thing that young dudes sort of on the way up used to have, it is not around. It's gone.
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Scott Galloway
So a lot there. So just in order, you mentioned humor. So there's studies on this. The three top criteria, the three top reasons women are sexually attracted to men is one, their ability to signal resources. We talked about that and it's not only having a Range Rover and a panel right now, it means having your shit together, such that you appear to be the kind of guy that might have resources in the future. Right? You got a plan. You don't stay in the club till 2am, you got shit to do in the morning. Women aren't drawn to a man who's in shape because of his muscles, but because it reflects he can show up and he's disciplined, and those attributes serve him well across the rest of his life. The second and you referenced this is intelligence, and it's instinctual, because guys who are intelligent make better decisions for the family, and the family is more likely to survive. And I would bet that the two of us, the only time we got dates in high school was because the fastest way to communicate intellect is what?
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Adam Carolla
Humor.
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Scott Galloway
100%. And this is my impersonation of a woman. I'm laughing, I'm laughing, I'm naked. I've always thought if you can make a woman laugh, she will grab coffee with you. And that is. And not only that, some people just aren't born like Adam Caroll. They aren't just naturally funny, but you can have a great sense of humor by laughing a lot. She says something sort of funny, you laugh. Someone else says something funny, you laugh. I've always thought that that was the easiest way to have a great. It's hard to be funny, but it's not hard to laugh and have a good sense of humor. And then the third thing, I'll cut.
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Adam Carolla
You off real quick. I'll tell you, there's a lot of comedians, and I won't mention their names, but there's a lot of comedians that aren't that funny. And people go. They'll go, that guy is so funny. I'll go, he's not really funny, but he laughs real hard all the time. And people go, I don't know, what's the difference? And I'm like, well, as a comedian, I'm telling you, he's not saying funny things, but he's laughing all the time. And thus you think he's a really funny comedian. So it works.
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Scott Galloway
Yeah, I find. And then you talked about mentorship. Look, you're an intimidating guy, so first off, there isn't. You identified a real flaw in our society. In the UK and Germany, 11% of LinkedIn titles say Apprentice. It's 3%. In the US we don't have an apprenticeship or a mentorship culture. But I would argue it's on you and me to find that to mentor Kids, because there are three times as many women applying to be big sisters as there are men applying to be big brothers. You're gonna be an intimidating guy. You're kind of larger than life. I think it's kind of on us to find young men and say, hey man, what are you doing? You wanna watch the game? And then the questions will start to come. But I don't.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, I was a Catholic big brother and I think that's wonderful. I got a lot out of it. I really did. And I did it when I was poor. I did it before I was on TV or radio or anything, but I did, I got a lot out of that relationship, even though I was the big brother. And I actually found, I'll tell you, sorry to cut you off, but I will tell you in terms of ways to sort of trick yourself into healthy habits. I would say on a Saturday I would go, well, I gotta go pick up my Catholic little brother and be with him for the day. So instead of watching the game and drinking beer, I would go pick him up and we would go to the beach, you know, and we would walk on the beach and to do. Yes. And I would fool myself into doing things that were sort of healthier uses of my time rather than sitting around kind of thing. So you would, you would find yourself getting out, like, like you said, getting out of the house for sure. And then doing these things because I didn't have money that were sort of free. But the best things in life, we'd go to the beach all the time and just spend all day at the beach because the beach was free. But I found myself driving home that night in a better mood than if I sat around and drank beer and watched a game with the boys.
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Scott Galloway
You brought up work, life balance, this is a big thing of mine. I don't think there's any such thing. There's just trade offs and what young people need to do and what I do think young people. Mrs. Sometimes I ask my kids, when I say my kids, my students, I've taught 4,500 students at NYU and the last class we do, it's called the Algebra of Happiness. And I do a survey of the kids and I ask them where they expect to be economically. And granted this is a very aspirational group. Second year MBAs, 70% of them expect to be in the top 1% within 5 years of graduation of income earning households. They expect to be making more than $700,000 a year. And also a lot of them will get there. They make 220,000 on average right out of business school. And then the other things that come up are balance. And I'm like, be clear. You can have it all, but you cannot have it all at once. And if you expect to be in the top 10%, much less the top 1% of influencer economics, I don't know anyone who's achieved that unless they were smart enough to be born rich, unless they pretty much did nothing but work for 20 years. And I often say my 20s and 30s, I worked all the time. It cost me my hair, it cost me my first marriage, and it was worth it because now I have a shit ton of balance. But if you think you're going to be in the top 1% or 10% from an influence standpoint or an economic standpoint, get ready. Get ready in a capitalist society to work your ass off. And I'm not saying my way is the right way. You might decide to move to a lower cost neighborhood in Fresno or whatever and coach little league and have a wife who's a nurse and you're a car. You know, you make good livings but not great livings. Good community with your church, more power to you. I find most young people expect to be very successful and have balance in their lives. And I'm like, no, there's trade offs. If you want a lot of balance when you're older, expect to have none now. But be clear. Name a really successful person and I'll show you someone who works their ass off. Because I mean, maybe, maybe there's someone who has balance in their life, is in shape, good relationship with their parents, good relationship with her girlfriend, and donates time to the ASPCA and has a food blog and money rains on them. Assume you are not that person. Just have an honest, sober conversation around where you expect to be on the income and influence scale and realistically the commitment and the sacrifice to get there. And some people aren't like me. They don't live to work, they work to live. But I find a lot of people's expectations are totally mismatched from the reality of a capitalist marketplace.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, well, the message kind of needs to be work life balance is kind of an adage. I don't exactly know what it means. I really enjoy my work. So to me, I'm enjoying working right now because I get to speak to you about work life balance. But also that's a kind of thing that a young male, since we're on the subject, you're not supposed to be striving for that balance when you're 26, you're supposed to be working your ass off so that you can have that balance later in life with something you want to do. It's not all that much different than a retirement account. You're supposed to be socking the money away at this point so that you can enjoy a more comfortable and leisurely life at a different point now. For me, it was just getting from carpentry to comedy. It wasn't about saving money. It was, I don't want to be driving a truck and swinging a hammer when I'm 50. It's gonna be too hard. I wanna be talking to you and doing standup and writing a book. That would be a better life as an older man. So I just worked at it to get off the construction site. That was sort of gonna be my balance. But I think a lot of young dudes are trying to hit the work life balance now at 24 and 27. And these are the make the hay while the sun shine years to put yourself in a great position to have the work life balance a decade from now or two decades from now.
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Scott Galloway
Yeah. In the book, I try to envision an aspirational vision of masculinity because I do think that young men are. A lot of young men are lost and could benefit from a code. And some people get their code from religion, the military, their family. And I think an aspirational vision of masculinity could serve as a code for. People born as male might have an easier time leaning into these more masculine attributes. But one I think it's to be a provider. I think every man at the outset of his career should assume he might have to take economic responsibility for his household, which, by the way, means sometimes getting out of the way and being more supportive of your partner, who may be better at that whole money thing. But really try hard to establish a trajectory, certification, the work ethic, such that you can put yourself in a position of being economically viable. Society disproportionately evaluates men based on their economic viability. It's key to mating. I don't care what anyone says. So at the outset, you got to have a plan for being economically viable. And sometimes that just means being a Lyft driver until you're figuring out. Because the best way to make a lot of money is to start by making a little bit of money. Because once you're in the arena, you learn how to fight, you learn how to make more money, and you get a taste for the flesh of money. And it's very motivating. Once you have some economic security, I think you go to the second stool, second leg of the stool of masculinity. And that is protection. And that is your job, is to protect yourself, to get strong, be healthy. But then once you get to a certain point, protect your family, protect your community, protect your country. And then I think the ultimate expression of masculinity is you plant trees, the shade of which you'll never sit under. You start helping people you're never going to meet. And I think what disappoints me about some of our natural male role models right now, whether it's the president or the richest man in the world, is I think they skip the protection part. I think they punch down. I think their first inclination is not to protect others. And then the third. The third leg of the stool, which gets more pushback, is procreation. I think we have pathologized and demonized young men's desire to have relationships and sex. And I think we need to embrace it. I think it's a wonderful thing. The vast majority of women still expect a man to initiate romantic contact. And wanting to have relationships and sex for most men turns them into better men. It makes them work harder, it makes them kinder, it makes them develop a rap, dress better. All the things we were talking about before, but I think of those kind of three things, as ideally, could serve as a code for young men around helping them make decisions. Because I do think young men really are struggling, Adam, with, like, what is my code for how I make decisions if I'm not getting it from my religion, if I haven't gotten it from my family. My first code was at Morgan Stanley. I went to work at an investment bank. And they had a very strong culture around how you treated other people, the way you approach work, the way you worked. I got a little bit of a code. I rode crew at ucla, and the code there was, you have no idea how hard you can push yourself. And that served me well my whole life. When I think, I can't take it anymore. This woman I thought I was going to marry broke up with, ripped my heart in half. No one will ever love me. I am at my end. I can't take work anymore. My company just went out of business. I can't take it anymore. What crew teaches you is when you're at that moment where you think, I can't take anymore, you're actually about a third of the way to your actual limit.
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Adam Carolla
Right.
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Scott Galloway
Humans have no idea how much they can endure until they actually push themselves. And that's what crew does. Crew's basically some skill, some strength, but it's basically what eight men in a boat have, a brain that will allow them to endure more pain and push through it full stop.
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Adam Carolla
You know, the next time we speak, and I hope it's sooner than later, I really want to drill down on this subject and especially the sort of self imposed pain. You don't have to crew. You're not running, you're not in a boat that's running from a kraken. You're just doing it because you've put yourself there. And I talk to people all the time. I go, I do the cold plunge. And they go, I read an article that says it's not as good. I don't do it for my joints. I do it to punish myself. And they go, what, it's too cold? I go, no, I do it because it's painful. And they go, because you have inflammation. I go, I don't have inflammation. I don't have back problems. I don't have any problems. I do it because I don't want to do it. I do it because it hurts. And I impose it on myself. And I'm not saying there's any benefit to it other than the benefit of imposing pain on yourself volitionally. I didn't get pushed off a tuna boat. I walked down to my basement and did it. And that's the part we're losing. And what you're talking about in the crew, I think about two a day practices in the San Fernando Valley in full pads, doing football and wanting to throw up, and the coach yelling, you know, take another lap and all that kind of stuff. And I fall back on it all the time. And. And I preach this all the time. And people look at me a little bit cross eyed, like they're like, why would you want to put yourself in that position? It's like, I don't think it's as important for women. I think it's super important for men and young men. And it can be found at wrestling practice and it can be found in the military and it can be found with two a day football. It could certainly be found with crew. It can be found in a lot of places. But avoiding it is hurting that person in their future endeavors. Because you're never gonna row crew again. But you will fall back on that push through the pain thing. That could be on a daily, weekly or monthly basis. So I wanna get into that with you if you'll come back on the show in the not too distant future.
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Scott Galloway
Professional yeah, I would love that. But just to briefly add to that, it's the key to success. It is your ability to endure rejection and failure. And actually women have an easier time with it instinctively than we do because they have to endure menstruation and childbirth.
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Adam Carolla
Well, there's a point.
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Scott Galloway
Yeah, I think it's especially especially important for men and it's not something it's unique to our generation. I used to my first job at Morgan Stanley I wasn't as skilled as everybody else. I used to show up every Tuesday at 9am and I wouldn't leave till 6pm the following day because I wanted to show them that I and I think it's important and young people look at me cross eyed, lift heavy weights and run long distances in your mind and in the gym. When you're young and in the rest of your life it'll serve you really well. Some of that self imposed plan you're talking about.
- [72:36]
Adam Carolla
The book Notes on Being a Man Scott Galloway and the podcast A Professor Chi Pod with Scott Galloway as well. X @ProfProf Professor ProfGalloway as well. Always great catching up with you my friend.
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Scott Galloway
Likewise Adam. Really enjoy your content. Congrats on all your success. You keep showing up in my feed. You're either doing really well or they figure out I know you.
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Adam Carolla
I'll take both. Good talking to you Scott. We'll talk soon.
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Scott Galloway
Thanks Adam.
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Scott Galloway
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Adam Carolla
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- [76:32]
Mike Dawson
You can leave us a message at 888-634-1744.
- [76:37]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, you can say now as I think about it, it's perfectly fine to say I'll do my best. I have a lot of people say to me, I did my best. And when you did your best and it's still a shit show, that means your shit. Which is a weird thing that people don't realize that when they screw the pooch and then announce they did their best, well then what are we really saying? You're not capable of doing this job. And it's an easy job. So something is wrong with you, right? I don't know. Half the time people give me excuses. It actually gets worse for them. You wanna know what, you wanna know what'll work for me all the time? Hey, what happened out there? I told you, I was drunk. Oh, okay. All right, that's good. All right, well sober up and finish with that. Yeah, have a cup of coffee and then see if we can go finish it. But don't tell me you did your best, cuz you did your best and it still suck, but I'm as drunk will work. Go ahead.
- [77:43]
Mike Dawson
All right, so we got some fun news today. Trump is facing criticism for referring to a female Bloomberg reporter as Piggy.
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Adam Carolla
Huh?
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Mike Dawson
And this is just a wonderful article. It's packed with chick think. But let's just start with this wonderful clip from X.
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Adam Carolla
Quiet Piggy.
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Mike Dawson
Quiet Piggy. It's very funny because. Well, first of all, I'm reminded of Alec Baldwin and the quiet. And he called his daughter Piggy.
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Adam Carolla
Everybody went nuts on Baldwin with that. And there's certain. Here's what I'm trying to figure out, Dawson. There's certain things that people are actually upset about and then there's other things that they have to act upset about but aren't a big deal. Anything to do with a dolphin you have to act super upset about. And no one but, but the whole Piggy thing was she who was Baldwin's daughter was probably going through a really shitty 14 year old Hollywood chick phase and being super fucking shitty with daddy. And I've been there, I know how it goes. Teenage girls, especially out here, especially if mamas whispering sweet nothings into their ears can get really, really shitty with daddy. And she'd been really shitty to Baldwin for a while and then broke a date or screwed something up or did something and then he just called her little piggy, right? And that's his fucking daughter. And I was like, get the fuck over it. And who gives a shit? And this is, by the way, this is a millionaire and a budding supermodel having problems. Please go find some real problems. People would, yet this isn't one of them. And I have to say that like all the time. So everyone went nuts over that Piggy episode. And I'm gonna be consistent. Baldwin is as far left as you can go and Trump's as far right and they hate each other with a white hot passion. And I shall defend Trump just like I defended Baldwin back in the day. I don't care.
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Mike Dawson
And they have some commonality in this, which is nice to see. They like the word piggy. But you gotta listen to some of the stuff in this article. Yes, this is not a problem. Well, also the Guardian thinks it is.
- [80:19]
Adam Carolla
There is an old school dude thing where you say stuff that you said 50 years ago and you still say it today. And all the college folks have figured out to make the transition into Latinx and saying words like problematic and quoting all the shit that never existed before. But the old school guys still say darn tootin and Stuff like that. And even the occasional Negro or colored or stuff like they just say shit. They used to say. So you used to be able to call someone a little piggy. There's a Beatles song.
- [81:02]
Mike Dawson
There is piggies, right?
- [81:04]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I think it's called Piggies.
- [81:06]
Mike Dawson
I think Manson used it as part of his. They're talking to me and trying me.
- [81:10]
Adam Carolla
To say the rest of the. But anyway, the article.
- [81:12]
Mike Dawson
So anyway, the article says, so is.
- [81:13]
Adam Carolla
He talking to a fat chick? Is the question a good question? Because his daughter, if he is, then.
- [81:22]
Mike Dawson
It could possibly be implied worse.
- [81:25]
Adam Carolla
His daughter, okay, his daughter, Katherine Lucy. His daughter was probably 510 and £110 at the time. So that's all right.
- [81:37]
Mike Dawson
But anyway, just listen to the way this is written.
- [81:39]
Adam Carolla
In what publication?
- [81:41]
Mike Dawson
Guardian.
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Adam Carolla
Okay.
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Mike Dawson
Donald Trump, who has a history of making extremely personal attacks on female journalists, referred to a Bloomberg Bloomberg News correspondent as a piggy. By the way, can I clash aboard Air Force One on Friday?
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Adam Carolla
Can I say this? Clash, Can I say this? When he talks about Biden, it's the most insulting thing that could ever be leveled toward another guy.
- [82:08]
Mike Dawson
Sure.
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Adam Carolla
It's, he was bad, he was dumb, he didn't know what was going on, he was out of bed, he took a sleep on the wall, put a.
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Mike Dawson
Picture of a pen.
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Adam Carolla
Right, right, right. Why is that not a hate crime? Do you know what I mean? Cuz it's a dude. I would much rather be called a piggy, especially if I'm slender, than what he calls half the dudes he's talking about, especially the former President of the United States and Joe Biden. I mean, he does not miss an opportunity to work in an insult to Biden. And it's somewhere between asleep or asleep at the wheel or dumb or dangerous and cause more damage to this country than any other president. The worst president. No one ever says walk it back or you're being rude. All right, but go ahead.
- [82:59]
Mike Dawson
Well, you heard how the author described Trump at the beginning. Now we're on to the victim. Katherine Lucy, Bloomberg's White House correspondent, had taken advantage of a press opportunity with the president, known as a gaggle, to ask a question about the unfolding Jeffrey Epstein scandal and the possibility of the House voting to release all the files related to the case.
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Adam Carolla
Oh, wait a minute, Gaggle. That means she's a goose.
- [83:29]
Mike Dawson
Oh, careful.
- [83:30]
Adam Carolla
Maybe he was just on the farm in his brain, you know, hey, gaggle and piggy and Goose and Mr. Cow over there. And Mr. Giraffe says sorry.
- [83:40]
Mike Dawson
So as Lucy started to ask Trump Why he was behaving the way he was. If there's nothing incriminating in the files, he said, quiet, quiet, piggy. And Jake Tapper said, it's disgusting and completely unacceptable.
- [83:56]
Adam Carolla
But let me explain what this is. Sorry, what this is. It's amusing. And I use this example sometimes. But when you talk to the crackpots, the religious crackpots and the guys who run all these Middle Eastern countries, and you go, listen, if you don't get out of Syria in two weeks, we're gonna bomb the shit out of you. And they go, you come near us and you'll feel the swift sting of Allah's sword upon your neck. And we go, okay. Anyway, get the fuck out of Syria. We're gonna bomb you. Okay. Like you have a laugh. This like Jake Tapper's appalled. That's comical to Trump and J.D. vance and anyone, any maga person, if you're not pissing, if you're not pissing him. If Jake Tapper's not pissed off, you're not doing your job.
- [84:48]
Mike Dawson
Right. So he's using Jake Tapper first and then he says. Former Fox News anchor Gretchen Carlson called the remark disgusting and decorating. Now here's where it gets really good. Our White House journalists perform a vital public service.
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Adam Carolla
That's right.
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Mike Dawson
Asking questions without fear or favor.
- [85:09]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. What happened to four years of you with a guy who is comatose, now.
- [85:14]
Mike Dawson
All of a sudden you have journalistic integrity and we're supposed to say, oh, no, you're right.
- [85:20]
Adam Carolla
I like when they go up there.
- [85:21]
Mike Dawson
Do your job for four years. We've had enough of your bullshit.
- [85:25]
Adam Carolla
Quiet, piggy. Well, hold on. I did find out that Joe Biden's favorite ice cream is vanilla. So it's not like they didn't do anything.
- [85:34]
Mike Dawson
Right.
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Adam Carolla
And I did find out he had a birthday coming up.
- [85:37]
Mike Dawson
Right, Right.
- [85:38]
Adam Carolla
So they didn't do nothing.
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Mike Dawson
Dawson, as I am, as I was going through this, this. I'll just get through this last little paragraph right here. And it just reminded me of your theory about Chick Think. I think it's bleeding all through this, especially right here. While name calling may seem harmless coming from the head of our government, it often sets in motion a torrent of abuse towards the journalist, which not only impacts her ability to work, but also sends a chilling message to other women journalists who are confronting him with hard hitting questions.
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Adam Carolla
Right. So she could be in her editor's office later that week going, look, I finished a reporting on the border. And he goes, hey, piggy, get out of here. And Then he starts laughing real hard. I know. They always do. It opens the door, whatever. By the way, this whole thing where, like, Trump is beneath. It's beneath the office of the president. Can you guys get the fuck over that? I think it's well established he's not that guy. Now I know what you guys would like. You would like Obama, who acts dignified and then fucks the country up and hustles race the whole time. Exactly. And gives a bunch of money to rogue nations and fucks our country up with his hateful fucking wife. Okay. You would like dignity in a fucked up country. I would like a guy who calls people piggies and a stout border. That's me.
- [87:14]
Mike Dawson
And the other funny thing is the Democrats who released that coordinated Instagram message yesterday where they were calling on military officials to disobey unlawful orders. Yeah, yeah, whatever. Anyway, do you imagine my disappointment when after reading this entire chick think article, it was written by a dude?
- [87:39]
Adam Carolla
Oh, man. Well, as I say every time, there's plenty of dudes who can think like chicks. So here's an interesting concept for you, Dawson. You know my chick dude, leg cross signal theorem.
- [87:57]
Mike Dawson
Yeah.
- [88:00]
Adam Carolla
So you know Trudeau and Newsom and Obama and every gay guy. Sorry, every left leaning guy who's interviewing Obama. By the way, there's a solidarity leg cross too.
- [88:13]
Mike Dawson
Sure.
- [88:14]
Adam Carolla
Everybody who interviews Obama has to do a deep leg cross too, because he has to sort of go, I'm with you. I agree with you. So they do the deep leg cross as well. The only guy who doesn't. The guy, the most progressive guy who's on the left who does not do the deep leg cross, which is a feminine thing, which is a sort of gay signaling thing, is Pete Buttigieg. The gay guy doesn't do the deep leg cross.
- [88:49]
Mike Dawson
Yeah, He's a top.
- [88:51]
Adam Carolla
He's a power top. This is why I needed your opinion on this, Dawson. Now I was.
- [88:58]
Mike Dawson
It's gotta be.
- [88:58]
Adam Carolla
Well, let's get a lot to carry down there. Let's break it down right, okay. Gavin Newsom and Justin Trudeau, they like plowing pussy. Katy Perry will tell you as much and his campaign manager's ex wife will tell you as well. So we don't have questions about them. The thing about what they need to do is they don't physically suck cock. They need to let you know they are down with the community. So it's essentially like, I'm gonna go into a black church and talk black and pull out some hot sauce. I'm not black, but you'll Know who I am when I explain they're gonna put you all back in chains. Or me ain't no now scary no more or whatever. Tired no more. Whatever bullshit rich guy, whitey, lefty, politician thing they have to do is go talk to the black church. But I'm not black. But I act black. Okay, so the Newsoms, I'm not gonna be tired no more. Super embarrassing and insulting. And by the way, black people, this is on you for not being insulted. You should be insulted. But anyway, anyway, these guys, Obama, Newsom, Trudeau, and the list goes on. Signal that we're down with the community. But I don't physically suck cock. But you understand I have to give.
- [90:24]
Mike Dawson
That signal because you don't suck cock.
- [90:27]
Adam Carolla
Yes, I don't. I'm down with your cause. Lgbt, Whatever community. All right, Buttigieg does suck cock, but he can't get elected sucking cock. So what he has to do. And if you look at his haircuts and think about his speaking manner, like if you just saw a picture of Buttigieg sitting around and a picture of Trudeau sitting around, you think Trudeau was the gay one. He's got all the bracelets and all the accoutrements and the fancy socks. Buttigieg comes across as a Midwestern businessman. Because what they're saying to him is, listen, you gotta tamp down the cock sucking. Yes, you. Okay, we all know you suck dick.
- [91:09]
Mike Dawson
Now.
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Adam Carolla
Let's not advertise.
- [91:10]
Mike Dawson
Right?
- [91:11]
Adam Carolla
Right. And the other guys go the opposite way. And that's how you know. Because I was watching him talk to the guys who have the deep leg cross. Cuz they don't suck cock, but they're down with the cause. And he's sitting there crossing his legs. Like, I cross my legs. And I think it's ironic that the one gay guy doesn't cross his legs like a gay guy.
- [91:34]
Mike Dawson
It is ironic, but there's a reason for it. And I think you did find it. I think you found it.
- [91:39]
Adam Carolla
And with Buttigieg, I don't. I don't think you're gonna see him, like, wearing a tank top at the Pride Parade or really talking a lot about, like, here's my whole point.
- [91:53]
Mike Dawson
Probably not. He's not gonna pull an Adam Schiff and dress up like Raiders of the Lost Ark at Halloween.
- [91:59]
Adam Carolla
And Kamala Harris is gonna talk about being black all the time, even though she's half black. She's gonna talk about that all the time. And she's gonna talk about the gay community and the LGBT and the trans community. He's gonna do much less of that talk, even though he's in that community because he's trying to say to America, forget I'm gay, just vote for this guy. So there you go. And the lake cross comes into effect. O'Reilly Auto Parts. Yeah. Love these guys. You know, the guys at O'Reilly, men, women, they know their business. Friendly, helpful service people actually know their stuff, not just some kid staring at his phone the whole time. Always been an O'Reilly fan. Used them way back. I mean, I'm going back 40 years. I used O'Reilly, remember the one that was off of Laurel Canyon in North Hollywood? Anyway, now I use them for my race cars. Just prepped, just prepped them the other day. So thousands of parts and accessories stocked in store and online so you don't have to panic when the check engine light appears. You need wiper blade swaps, brake lights out. The Pros over at O'Reilly can help you. And if you're not a hands on DIY type, they'll send you to a good shop. They'll recommend somebody. So whether you're a gearhead or you don't know a lug nut from a donut, they'll walk you right through it. No attitude, just real help. Stop by O'Reilly Auto Parts today or visit us@o'reillyauto.com Adam that's o'reillyauto.com Adam. Homes.com love me some homes.com some might say homes.com is the best home shopping site. Mm. I say that it may be homes.com's super comprehensive and transparent agent directory. Or maybe it's at. Homes.com is the only site that always directly connects you with the listing agent who knows the home the best. Perhaps it's because homes.com has the most in depth neighborhood content of any home shopping site that's extensively researched. To highlight the personality of each neighborhood, homes.com goes above and beyond to bring home shoppers the in depth info they need to find the right home. I love hanging out on homes.com it's a hobby, but it's also a good way to keep track of the market as well. Homes.com we've done your homework.
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Mike Dawson
Well, you know what Michelle Obama's gonna do? She's gonna tell us how we're not grown up enough. We're not ready. But the good news is she won't be running for president. Listen to this.
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Guest or Interviewee (possibly Tracee Ellis Ross or another commentator)
So thank you all for, for being there for us. You stepped into a role that carried a preconceived idea of femininity and wifedom that was founded on the landmines of racism and misogyny.
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Adam Carolla
Whoa.
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Guest or Interviewee (possibly Tracee Ellis Ross or another commentator)
What the first lady wears is one of the main ways which you've already said the first lady has talked about. It comes with so much historical expectation. How do you feel about the fact that the first lady is an archetype for wifedom and femininity? Yeah, I don't agree with that. Don't. Don't agree with that. It's part of.
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Mike Dawson
It's coming up later.
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Guest or Interviewee (possibly Tracee Ellis Ross or another commentator)
It is a completely throwback.
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Adam Carolla
I'll get to it. It's coming.
- [95:32]
Guest or Interviewee (possibly Tracee Ellis Ross or another commentator)
It's a definition that has no current. Current status in how women actually show up in the world today. Do you think that that impacts the room that we've made for a woman to be president? Well, as we saw in this past election, sadly, we ain't ready.
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Mike Dawson
We ain't ready.
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Guest or Interviewee (possibly Tracee Ellis Ross or another commentator)
That's why I'm like, don't even look at me about running because you all are lying. You're not ready for a woman. You are not. So don't waste my time.
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Adam Carolla
Confidence or what she mean?
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Mike Dawson
She means that we are misogynistic and we will not elect a woman. Although I really think she saw some polling data and that there was no chance in hell she could ever possibly win.
- [96:17]
Adam Carolla
If you said to. I'll put it to you this way, by the way. They do this bullshit all the time where it's like, you know, women, women, women, women of color. Women of color. You guys hate Candace Owens. And any woman of color disagrees with you more than anybody. So don't give me the woman of color.
- [96:35]
Mike Dawson
Governor or Attorney General of Virginia.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, Winston Sears, right? Winsome.
- [96:42]
Mike Dawson
Winsome.
- [96:42]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. You hate her, so don't give me the support. Women of color bullshit. Listen, I do not think that there is a guy I know in the Republican Party that would not vote for Margaret Thatcher over Tim Walls. If I just said, look, there's two people, they're gonna run your country. One of them is Margaret Thatcher. The other is Tim Walsh. They go, gimme Margaret Thatcher. They have no fucking thoughts about her being a woman. We have thoughts about bad governance and bad ideas. And a lot of the bad ideas come from the feminine side of the.
- [97:23]
Mike Dawson
Aisle based philosophy, whereas we just want the right person for the.
- [97:27]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, so she likes to do the whole misogynist racist thing, by the way. That's all she does is go around making millions of dollars calling everyone misogynist and rac. But I do want to say this Tracy Ellis Ross.
- [97:42]
Mike Dawson
Who's that?
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Adam Carolla
That's the woman. Thank you. By the way, I like when people do that. Like when you say something. I miss that. Where you go, wait a minute. What time is it? Thank you. Thank you. See, I said we needed a clock, but you wouldn't listen. Right, But Dawson doesn't know what time it is. Thank you. Okay. Thank you for not knowing who the fuck that bitch is. So here's the thing.
- [98:08]
Mike Dawson
I saw her earrings though.
- [98:10]
Adam Carolla
She is a. She's the ambassador to all blacks.
- [98:13]
Mike Dawson
Okay?
- [98:14]
Adam Carolla
So when Michelle Obama needs to be interviewed, Tracee Ellis Ross needs to interview her, right? Because she's.
- [98:22]
Mike Dawson
She's like an Oprah on a lower level.
- [98:25]
Adam Carolla
She's the black whisperer. You have to have her on all this stuff. Her mom is Diana Ross. Oh, okay. And her dad is Robert Silberstein, an old Jew. The point is. So first off, the reason she doesn't look black is because she has a Jewish dad, a millionaire Jewish dad. And then her mom's a millionaire as well. And then she pops up everywhere as sort of the go to black person. Here's who we're going to when we're talking to BlackBerry. So someone's gotta interview Michelle Obama. Who's it gonna be? It's gonna be the black chick who doesn't look black cuz her fucking. Her dad is an old Jew who's a Nepo baby, who's super rich that no one even fucking knows what she does. But she was on the show Blackish now, okay? We don't need her. And all she's gonna be is friendly for the black person she's talking to. So I'm watching her do her softball with Michelle Obama and then I realize she pops up in the Eddie Murphy doc. Now, the Eddie Murphy doc is filled with comedians and it's got the Dave Chappelles of the world and guys like that and people that have worked with Eddie Murphy.
- [99:53]
Mike Dawson
She pops down in it.
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Adam Carolla
That's what I'm saying. I have no association. She made a movie with him three years ago called Candy Cane Lane that no one saw, no one heard of. And in the pantheon of Eddie Murphy movies, if he's done 80 movies, this one's 77th in terms of movies you'd like to see with Eddie Murphy in them. And they got. They did the Arsenio Halls and the Coming to America and Working with Eddie, whatever, but because she's just the black ambassador and needs to be shoved into everything because she's a woman of color, they just shove her into everything. And now she's got. What year was Candy Cane Lane? You can look up. She was in one movie that's unknown with Eddie Murphy, and no one knows what the fuck she's doing on this thing. 2023. I didn't even know this movie came out. But the point is, is her mom is Diana Ross and she needs to be here the same way you didn't know who she was with this. So I was doing a 10 to 20 minute soliloquy about Tracee Ellis Ross. And by the way, it's fine. You're allowed to make a living. I wish my mom was Diana Ross. I got one of the other Supremes as a mom.
- [101:11]
Mike Dawson
She charged for the money.
- [101:12]
Adam Carolla
My mom couldn't afford a burrito Supreme. Forget about being in the Supremes. But fine, work and do all this stuff. It's just funny that you become this ambassador to this thing and I don't know, but everyone loves her. No one else. By the way, it's a hate crime if you say anything bad about her. But she popped up in the Eddie Murphy thing, which, again, I would argue she doesn't need to be in a doc about Eddie Murphy since she's worked with him once a year and a half ago and he was basically done with his career by then. But. All right, fine. But as my buddy Kevin Hench brought up when I was going on my diatribe about why we don't need Tracee Ellis Ross in an Eddie Murphy doc, he mentioned something that I caught but that I forgot, which is. And I'll just play it for you. Because you do a doc. I do docs. People sit down and they talk. And on occasion, when they're recounting things, there's a lot of, like, well, you know, let's see. I met Jimmy when I started at Kroc in. 95. 94. Yeah, sorry, 94. I met Jimmy when I met. There's a lot of that. And then you clean it up in post, you know, because otherwise you have a lot of people talking to people off camera. Bob, when I started K. Oh, 94. Okay. There's a lot of that. Sure. All right, so this is. She pops up like three or four times to comment on Eddie Murphy, who she made a movie with.
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Guest or Interviewee (possibly Tracee Ellis Ross or another commentator)
He just has a sieve of a brain.
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Scott Galloway
Like.
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Guest or Interviewee (possibly Tracee Ellis Ross or another commentator)
Is that the right word, sieve? Like, it just takes everything in.
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Scott Galloway
Sponge.
- [102:53]
Guest or Interviewee (possibly Tracee Ellis Ross or another commentator)
He's like a spongebob. That's the way I would describe Eddie. He's a sponge brain.
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Adam Carolla
Right. Why not just edit around the part where she said he had a siv for a brain. And by the way, do we need a commentary?
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Mike Dawson
Where's that at?
- [103:06]
Adam Carolla
It doesn't add anything. The point is, is that we're making Eddie Murphy doc.
- [103:10]
Mike Dawson
And she's talking about after he was Eddie Murphy, if she worked with him in 2023. Yeah, of course he is, because he has years of experience to build on. He's not really a sponge. He's just a lot smarter and more experienced than you are.
- [103:28]
Adam Carolla
He has a sieve for a brain. So it kind of reminded me one time when I was doing Vibe or whatever, and I think Sinbad was interviewing me, and he goes, man, you and Dr. Drew are so different. You're like that cartoon Heckle and Jekyll. And I go, I'm picturing the two identical. Two identical magpies, right?
- [103:54]
Mike Dawson
And I go, yeah, that's not what you mean.
- [103:57]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, maybe you wanted Fred and Barney or something. Or any. Any. Any other duo. He meant Jekyll and Hyde.
- [104:05]
Mike Dawson
But he said cartoon.
- [104:07]
Adam Carolla
He said, well, to be fair, he was thinking Jekyll and Hyde.
- [104:14]
Mike Dawson
Yes.
- [104:15]
Adam Carolla
And he said, you're like Heckle and Jekyll. I don't know if he said cartoon. He said heckle and Jekyll. And I pictured the two identical magpies. And. And I just sat there. Cause I was on tv, and I was like, I don't know. Do we circle back? And I explained, this is necessary.
- [104:34]
Mike Dawson
But, yeah, it kind of is.
- [104:35]
Adam Carolla
Like, hey, Sinbad. No, and it was like, well, one had a cockney accent, the other just had a British accent. Like, I don't know, but they're the same.
- [104:45]
Mike Dawson
Yeah, he meant that would have confused him.
- [104:49]
Adam Carolla
Then I was like, his dumbo audience doesn't fucking know what the fuck he's talking about anyway. All right, do you have one more?
- [104:55]
Mike Dawson
Sure I do. Joy Reed.
- [104:58]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [104:59]
Mike Dawson
She's now changed her outrage. She's now joining the outrage at trans people in locker rooms. She said, if I saw penis, I would freak out, too. We might have some video here. All right, let's see.
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Guest or Interviewee (possibly Tracee Ellis Ross or another commentator)
I would be disturbed. I'm telling you. I would be alarmed. I'm alarmed enough when I see a woman with her dangling boobies. Yeah. If I saw a penis in the ladies rocket room, I would freak out, too. This is just. I mean, this is nothing against trans anybody. What it's saying is, if I turn around and I see a pee. Pee. A penis in front of me inside of the room, I would probably go to management and say, wait a minute. Why is There somebody, a naked man in this room? Because just the world we live in. Just from a safety standpoint, can I say this?
- [105:52]
Adam Carolla
With all the fucking women identifying as men, how come there's zero naked chicks walking around any locker room I've ever been in identifying as men? And there's zero chicks that are trying out for the men's basketball team.
- [106:09]
Mike Dawson
Because no basketball team.
- [106:11]
Adam Carolla
I know, I know it would make sense that there'd be at least some incidents of me sitting in a Y, walking around looking at a C cup or something. I've never heard about this that direction. I only hear about it the other direction. And I never hear about the woman or the biological woman trying to make the Pepperdine male volleyball team. I don't hear about any of that. So why wouldn't it be a two way street is what I'm saying.
- [106:40]
Mike Dawson
And I do like put on the man's track and field.
- [106:43]
Adam Carolla
That's right. I do like, like Stephen A and gay Pete Buttigieg and all that kind of stuff. I will say this about black people. They are black before they're Democrats. Like black is the number one thing they are. And Joy, as crazy as she is and as left wing as she is, she's still a black woman. And white women don't wanna see a ding a ling either.
- [107:07]
Mike Dawson
But I don't wanna see dangling breasts either. That scare dangling boobies.
- [107:12]
Adam Carolla
I don't know why she would start with that statement. Because if you're in a female lock.
- [107:16]
Mike Dawson
She'S trying to say it's equally offensive in each way. She's trying to show that this is not a transphobic station. Hey, dangling boobies do the same thing to me. I would say, no, they don't. Not in a women's locker room.
- [107:27]
Adam Carolla
I would say, we're gonna have a very difficult time avoiding women's boobies in a ladies locker room. I would assume, right, but she. Again, black folk, they're not down with nuttiness. White women don't wanna see the ding a ling either. But they pretend they don't care or it's not an issue because they're aware of their party. The black folk will go, look, I'm not down with the LGBT and all the trans and all that shit. I may be left, I may love Obama, I love Michelle Obama, I love it all, but I'll draw the line at cock. And that's how they go.
- [108:07]
Mike Dawson
Well, I would accept this with more praise, if not four years ago. She wasn't saying that. Everything she just said was a Republican Talking point.
- [108:19]
Adam Carolla
That's right. So. Well, they're also not smart and that they're wildly inconsistent.
- [108:25]
Mike Dawson
And then I found out the name of her podcast and lost all respect for. It's called Read this, Read that.
- [108:35]
Adam Carolla
The name.
- [108:36]
Mike Dawson
Come on. Yeah, with a name like that, you lose points if you can't come up with something very, very clever.
- [108:44]
Adam Carolla
All right, well, tonight, Fort Worth, Texas Hyenas Comedy Club, doing a couple of shows there. And then tomorrow, Woodlands, Texas, my brother.
- [108:53]
Mike Dawson
Will see you there.
- [108:54]
Adam Carolla
Woodlands. Yeah. Oh, tell him to come up and find me. Woodlands, Texas, do Si. Do the Big Barn, couple shows there. And then Saturday, Walnut Springs, Texas, Rattlesnake Roadhouse and then Corona. December 6th, me and Jay Moore at the DAS Logos Amphitheaters. Well, go to amcroll.com for all the live shows. DAS, you got anything?
- [109:15]
Mike Dawson
Coming up December 4th through 7th, I'm doing some shows with Rudy Povich at Delirious in the Silver 7 Casino in Las Vegas.
- [109:24]
Adam Carolla
Oh, yeah. And until next time, Adam for Dawson and Scott Galloway saying mahalo.
- [109:31]
Mike Dawson
You can leave us a voicemail at 888-634-1744 and get tickets to see the Ace man at AdamCola.com.
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Mike Dawson
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Adam Carolla
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