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Adam Carolla
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Adam Carolla
Get it on. Got to get on the. Get it on now. Oh, I have suggestions for Sean Duffy about transportation.
Alicia Krause
No, I was going to say you shouldn't have any suggestions to him about procreation because he's got that under control.
Adam Carolla
Nine kids. More than me, more than you. Yeah, but collectively yours way more.
Alicia Krause
Maybe.
Adam Carolla
I don't know. I'm just being mean. I can't help it. You know, I have thoughts. I have mean thoughts.
Alicia Krause
Collectively, I might weigh more. I don't know. His wife is beautiful and tiny.
Adam Carolla
Oh, she's a Maria Campos Duffy. Or is it Rachel? Rachel Campos Duffy.
Alicia Krause
Rachel Campos Duffy.
Adam Carolla
Rachel Campos. Well, I got two out of three. She looks like a Maria is what I'm saying. You disagree?
Alicia Krause
I don't know. Maybe one of their children is named Maria.
Adam Carolla
Ooh, no, she looks kind of like Hispanic or something.
Alicia Krause
I don't know what she's like a Little Latina vibe.
Adam Carolla
Well, Campos is.
Alicia Krause
Yes, that's true. Tis true.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, what's really. Maybe her middle name is Maria Stuffy or something. She looks very. She has a dark, a swarthy look, very olive toned look. All right, so she looks like she has some Latin Latina in her, but we can figure that one out. Either way, good looking couple, lots of kids, smart guy, adults back in the room. Buttigieg out worrying about racist bridges.
Alicia Krause
Seriously, that guy thinks he's gonna run for president again.
Adam Carolla
He's such a douche. He's such a racist. The fact that he's transportation, you know, I'll tell you where. Well, first off, where he lost me. He lost me at his paternity leave for his adopted kid.
Alicia Krause
Oh, yeah.
Adam Carolla
Did we get into that? I didn't get into that on this show. Okay, but here's what I'm saying, everybody. I was yelling this at Drew. I don't think I was yelling at you. Now, see, what happens is Drew comes in here, we do some shows, I yell a bunch of shit at him, and then three days later, I go, did I yell that at you or was I yelling at Drew?
Alicia Krause
Well, you do often tell me that I get on your nerves in the same way that Drew does. So maybe we're just morphing into the same person.
Adam Carolla
You know, it was a weird, weird thing. It used to happen to me all the time. It doesn't happen to me anymore. When I got agitated at somebody, I would yell, Drew at them. Which meant I was used to yelling that at Drew. So I might be having an argument with my buddy Ray. And at some point, he'd get me agitated and I'd go, drew, shut up. You know? But I wasn't arguing with my yell.
Alicia Krause
Drew, shut up at me. I really agitated you.
Adam Carolla
The day is young. So here's all I want you people to kind of vibe on. If you just wanna know. People say, you know, you're getting rid of all these, you know, the money, the federal money. It's not going to Minnesota. These people are gonna go hungry, whatever. And I keep telling everyone, cut off the money. Let's see if anyone dies of hunger. Because no one ever dies of hunger. Because we've done this weird thing where.
Alicia Krause
They'Re like, they should step up.
Adam Carolla
They don't want people to eat. I grew up poor. I grew up so. And you just figured out a way.
Alicia Krause
You still got bologna sandwiches?
Adam Carolla
Yeah, my mom wouldn't do that, but, yeah. No, we went to a church for spaghetti night. The church would have Spaghetti night. And we would go wait in line and go eat free spaghetti.
Alicia Krause
Everybody was talking about like, oh, local charities and churches are having to step up. And I'm like, yeah. Turns out that's what they're there for. And they do it way better than the government.
Adam Carolla
Right? Well, the government funding closed three months ago and kids were gonna go hungry, but no one went hungry. And everyone's fat and shut the fuck up. And my thing is they say we need to police all these expenditures, all these programs need to be policed. The after school lunch program and the lunch program that takes place during the summer that the school provides because the kids don't get the free lunch cause they're on summer break. It's like, my thing is you gotta get rid of the fucking programs because you cannot police this many programs. And it's always the waste and the fraud is going to be baked into every program because it's human nature. But here's my point. Pete Buttigieg, who is a dude with a cock and balls, got one of the most important jobs in the United States. Transportation Secretary. Now look, you can go. Well, the president, vice president, I don't know, in a weird way, probably more important than vice president. If your vice president is Kamala's sole job. Yeah. And vice president Kamala is just showing up at charging stations and glad handing people.
Alicia Krause
The vice president's job is to be there if heaven forbid, something happens to the president and. Or to just shill for the president.
Adam Carolla
And photo ops, reading children's books at the school and whatever, that's fine. But he's in charge of airports and everything else. Okay, so Pete Buttigieg, who has one of the most important jobs in the United States, gets sworn in and then immediately takes a paternity leave for three months. Now, paternity meaning he's gay. He's got a gay partner. And either they adopted, they used a surrogate, but neither of them had to.
Alicia Krause
Recover from a dinner patient hole in their abdomen. Neither had.
Adam Carolla
Neither had a C section to deal with. Pete Buttigieg took advantage of that leave and went home.
Alicia Krause
And by the way, nobody really noticed till he came back.
Adam Carolla
Right. But my point, and Dawson, you can look it up, but I mean, he was secretary of transportation for 10 minutes before he took that. It wasn't like it was year number three.
Alicia Krause
He did it.
Adam Carolla
He just got in and then hung out for a week and said, I'm going home. And he didn't go home for a long weekend.
Alicia Krause
Nope.
Adam Carolla
Now listen, I had twins. I didn't have them. But in this case, I had them as much as Pete had them. I took two days off, one day off, and then I went back to work.
Alicia Krause
I would say even more so because your wife had them and needed your help around the house. You know what I mean? For people that aren't Pete Buttigieg, who can't pay for hired help to come in. You know what I mean? Like, sometimes a dad does need maternity leave so he can take care of mom in the house. How long was he in?
Adam Carolla
He took it in mid August 2021, after he and his husband Chastain adopted twins. All right, so he adopted twins.
Alicia Krause
So he was in the job for seven months.
Adam Carolla
Yes. First year. He did not get through the first year. And he went home, and he was at home for months. But here's my whole. Here's my whole point, and I wanna know how long he was at home for.
Alicia Krause
It says several weeks. It was two full months. I thought it was closer to three. But then he also was caught working remote, too. That was the other thing, is he was like, well, I can work from anywhere.
Adam Carolla
All right, here's my whole point. He took advantage of the system. Essentially, they said, if you don't want to, you don't have to go home for two months. You're your secretary of transportation. It'd be nice to have you in the office. And he took advantage of it with adopted kids. My point is, now I'm a poor Somali person who's living in obscurity in Minneapolis. I will take advantage of that system as well. Everyone will take advantage of the system. Every. I've said it a million times. I don't like it. Maybe you've done it every woman. Most women, and some guys more than some guys. But most women, when I go, you know, oh, you're buying a brand new dress for one night. When they go, I'll just return it when I'm done. And I go, you can't do that.
Alicia Krause
That's dishonest. I don't do that.
Adam Carolla
You don't do it. I go, all right, I'm an atheist. Runway is for, I'm an atheist. And I go, no, that's ripping off the company. That's not right. And they go, let's just do it. You know what I mean?
Alicia Krause
No.
Adam Carolla
People will go by, we need a monitor. They'll get it from Best Buy, use it for one thing, and then return it to Best Buy. Oh, yeah.
Alicia Krause
And I just go, it's dishonest.
Adam Carolla
Here's the point. Almost everyone Is capable of this behavior.
Alicia Krause
Of poor behavior?
Adam Carolla
Yes. Dishonest.
Alicia Krause
Okay?
Adam Carolla
If I'm in a room of 10 people, I go, you can't buy a dress, wear it out, and then return it. And they go, why not? Yes, you can. And then at some point, they go, I buy so much shit from Amazon. Come on. Give me a break.
Alicia Krause
Oh, because it's a big, bad corporation? Is that what it is? I think.
Adam Carolla
No, it's. It's more. It's more like. Listen, when somebody did this with, like, Best Buy, the guy was a, like, commercial AV installer, whatever. He just goes, I do, you know, so much business. I don't even know if it was Best Buy, Costco or whatever. It's like I. I throw so much business their way that can cut me this or whatever. And I was kind of like, all right, most people buy one big screen every five years. You buy 28 big screens a year, all right? And then you borrow one and you return it. I wrapped my mind around it. But the point is this. Pete Buttigieg is one of the most important jobs. First year goes home for no fucking reason to hang out with adopted kids and his dumb husband. Okay? He's willing to do it. Everyone else I know is willing to take their dog to the airport, get a note from their doctor for glaucoma so they can get pot, so they.
Alicia Krause
Can be a lap animal, buy a.
Adam Carolla
Dress and turn the dress back in. We are capable of exploiting systems. We need to get rid of the systems. There's too many systems. It shall be exploited. We have to roll the systems back. It's not policing the system. By the way, how many people do you have to police all these NGOs and all these after programs and all these health. And if kids.
Alicia Krause
Prosecutors are currently being tied up investigating Somali fraud.
Adam Carolla
There's not enough human beings to police the billions of dollars that are flying in every direction. I mean, you have a limited number of, like, accountants and forensic accountants and prosecutors and courtrooms and, like, how. How many. How much manpower does it fucking take to oversee all this stuff? My thing is, is get rid of the program. Here's my program. Make your kids lunch. And by the way, if you can't do that, then we'll take the kids. Because if you can't feed your kids, that's. That's number one.
Alicia Krause
We can help you get a job. Do the.
Adam Carolla
We can help you get a job. But.
Alicia Krause
But once again, circling back to community does that better than government.
Adam Carolla
Oh, of course. Yeah.
Alicia Krause
And community tends to have more Accountability and follow up than government.
Adam Carolla
I would say, all right, now I'm craving spaghetti.
Alicia Krause
Let's do a spaghetti night.
Adam Carolla
Free spaghetti. We wait in that line. And by the way, we didn't really totally need it. I mean we weren't technically like destitute poor, we were just basic poor. And by the way, my mom was essentially was poor because she was lazy and didn't really want to get her shit together, go to work or anything. She was kind of self imposed poor. Most poor is kind of self imposed. You can go work, there's plenty of work out.
Alicia Krause
There are people that are probably considered poor that they're living paycheck to paycheck given cost of living situation.
Adam Carolla
Listen, had roommates the whole time I was poor. I had like the futon and I shared a futon with a guy. My first roommate, I've had three guys in a one bedroom in North Hollywood for a while was lots of, you know, boiling a bunch of hard boiled eggs and buying a sack of apples and like taking them to work with me for lunch and stuff. Like I couldn't.
Alicia Krause
Egg is pretty good though. I was thinking you were gonna say like 99 cent ramen.
Adam Carolla
Well, you know, I was on a construction site. So you kinda had to pack in your own food. Yeah, it always depended. Sometimes you'd be on a construction site where someone could make a McDonald's run and then other times you were up in the hills somewhere and it was like you just brought your own. And I was too lazy to make a sandwich.
Alicia Krause
I just remembered a story. Some friends of ours in Encino were remodeling. And the wife came in and she realized that the guys that were remodeling were using her daughter's Easy Bake oven to heat tortillas.
Adam Carolla
They're tortillas. What Jewish guys? Japanese. Listen, I worked with my Christian born again Christian guys at Always Better Closets and Stalling closets. These were just former gang bangers who found Jesus Christ like kind of people. And they'd come in, Frank and Big John and all these guys and I told everyone I have eaten cactus. He'd show up with a Tupperware filled with brown mush. It looked like beef stew. And then a stack of tortillas. Cause you can get a 3 inch thick stack of tortillas for like 99 cents. And then we'd sit around at lunch and he'd deal them out, you know, like one something tortilla. And I'd eat that tortilla. I said, what kind of chicken is this? And this thing, he goes, cactus. It's cactus. I go, who sells cactus? He just points at the hill. Points at the hill in Burbank because he dispatched his wife with a machete.
Alicia Krause
Really?
Adam Carolla
Go get the cactus, cook it up with the bouillon cubes. But here's my whole point. You can eat when you're poor. You have to try a little. But that's all I ever did. That's all everyone I knew ever did.
Alicia Krause
And we worked.
Adam Carolla
And we worked. Yes, we worked. And then we ate. And my mom didn't really want to work, so she wanted to get the free spaghetti, so we got the free spaghetti. By the way, the free spaghetti thing was like, once in a blue moon. It's not like every night you just go to the church.
Alicia Krause
No, it's like, usually there's a set day of the week.
Adam Carolla
And also I would just leave and go eat at my friend's house all the time. That's. That's what I would do.
Alicia Krause
I have a girlfriend that. That was her childhood. Just, like, hopping around from house to house, eating. Cause mom and dad weren't around.
Adam Carolla
That's all I did, was eat at other people's house. What you'd do is you'd play with the kid for a while until, like, 5:00'. Clock. And then at some point, that's the strategy. You'd start smelling like a pork chop coming from the kitchen, you know, and then you'd go, they go, we gotta eat. Pretty soon you go, oh, what are you eating there? Pork chops? And they go, yeah, we're doing pork chops. And you go, oh, well, maybe I'll. And then at some point, hopefully the mom would go, like, yeah, just stay. Just stay.
Alicia Krause
You know, the mom knew.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I think the mom knew.
Alicia Krause
Moms have good radar.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Barbara Bohm knew.
Alicia Krause
She knew what was up.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. And Irene Oldhoefer knew.
Alicia Krause
Oldhofer. That's a great.
Adam Carolla
Oh, she could cook German, man. Ooh. Oh, yeah, that was awesome.
Alicia Krause
Schnitzel.
Adam Carolla
Whatever she cooked, man, I just devoured that shit. And Ray, her son, ate a lot. And I was like, I'm eating a lot, too, so let's do this. All right, so I want to get your opinion on something.
Alicia Krause
Okay.
Adam Carolla
Scott Adams, as we know, passed. Scott was a great guy. And Scott was a thinker. Scott was a real interesting guy. And basically the way the left works is they inhabit all of the writing assignments for all the magazines and all the Newsweeks and all the whatever. So when I make a comment about COVID that's controversial. Newsweek has to jump on it with one of their dumb shit writers and write a bunch of lies or stuff that turned out to be lies later on. But that's how they go now. These same people have no idea who Scott Adams is in terms of his content. The same way they didn't have any idea about Charlie Kirk, who Charlie Kirk was, have any idea who Dennis Prager is. They don't understand that these people are intellectuals. They're thoughtful and thought provoking, they're God fearing, they're like family oriented. They're good, solid, tax paying citizens.
Alicia Krause
They just didn't come up with their thought process or beliefs overnight. Like it's something specifically with Prager and Scott took decades of life and wisdom.
Adam Carolla
And relationship and reading and talking and conversing and exploring thoughts, exploring ideas and then arriving at conclusions and places. All right, but the dumb shit at People magazine is never gonna look into their body of work ever. Ever.
Alicia Krause
They're just looking at the most controversial.
Adam Carolla
Thing they might have said and that. And they're just not on the left. Yeah, there's somebody who's not with them and their horrible ideas about transgender or gay rights or LGBT or the border or whatever fakakta nonsense that they subscribe to with climate change or open borders or tax the rich or whatever. Burn Elon's dealerships. Like whatever dumb shit you idiots are doing. Dennis Prager and many others are too smart to go along with your horseshit. Yep. And so there's either there's two groups that go along with the horseshit, there's the dumb shits who go along with the horseshit, and then there's the people in Hollywood who are scared because they wanna work again. So they pretend to go along with the horseshit so they can work.
Alicia Krause
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
All right. So then somebody dies and then somebody's gotta handle the news and the obit and what happened and the person for People magazine. But it would be the same for any rag. They always give it to the angriest 34 year old chick out there. And then she has no idea who he is. And then so she writes, Scott Adams disgraced. Dilbert crater dies at 68 now disgraced. Right? Then the people that are Scott Adams fans, which are many, although she's not aware of any of them because she's never spoken to anyone who likes Scott Adams because she's at the, she's at the lesbian parade all day. Right? So she doesn't know anybody who likes that. They're always surprised, like, oh, I've never met anyone who wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton. Like, there are a bunch of smart people out there that you guys will not expose yourself to.
Alicia Krause
Yeah, I was just looking for a post because this reminded me of a meme I saw earlier. And it was like, on one side, it was like a former ISIS leader, and it was like the title about him after he died was Esteemed Islamic scholar passes at 72 passes because the IDF, like, killed him or something versus what they had said about Scott Adams. And it wasn't even people. It was like the New York Times or something else.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Alicia Krause
Talk about his unhinged rants in 2023.
Adam Carolla
Right. So the weird legacy. And then I know when I die, this bitch's younger sister will just write, racist misogynist, Adam Carolla dies. The end. You know what I mean? That'll be it. And that's. That's how they love to do, is they love to weave in some controversy. But the problem with the controversy is, like, when you write the obit on Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby, then you would be right to work that controversial in there. Scott Adams didn't rape anyone or get caught in some sort of molestation triangle or something.
Alicia Krause
He never drunk women.
Adam Carolla
Didn't do anything. What he did is he dared to have opinions that were different than yours.
Alicia Krause
Yep.
Adam Carolla
But you're in charge of writing it. So then. And I don't know how you feel about this, then the Internet just started putting her picture everywhere, calling her fat pig.
Alicia Krause
Oh, no.
Adam Carolla
And then she had to take her name off, and then they kept putting her name back on. So the Internet reacted hard. Now, I don't really like the doxing stuff and the weight shaming and all that kind of stuff.
Alicia Krause
It doesn't win anybody over to your side. Yeah.
Adam Carolla
But if you're gonna be sort of inherently cruel, then people. Then you. Here's all I'm saying.
Alicia Krause
Yeah. I think what happens is you push people to a point that even if she hasn't been consistently inherently cruel to Scott Adams and his fans, there's a group of the Internet that just is constantly hit and seeing horrible cruelty, whether it was after Charlie's murder or Scott Adams death or Dennis Prager's accident, like, all this stuff, and it's just like they feel so shit on all the time that they feel the need to defend themselves. Right.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. My take is she drew first blood. And while I don't appreciate. You can find some of the comments out there, Andrew, I don't appreciate the fat shaming and Whatever the doxing and all that kind of stuff. Show load decorum. A guy just died. You may not have been a fan, but he had many. And you chose to put the word disgraced in there for no reason. And now you're getting disgraced because there's a bunch of pictures of you looking fat and dumb on the Internet and everyone's making fun of you, which I kind of like in that. I hope you slow your fucking role next time you're gonna do this kind of thing. And also, where's your fucking editor? Like, are there any adults in this building who could just look at this and go, look, the guy died nine hours ago. He has a family. You're not going to write disgraced on there. He didn't do anything.
Alicia Krause
This is why I'm against the doxing of a woman. Like, this is. She's not the only person to blame. She probably did this because, one, it's what she thinks and two, because it's what she thinks her bosses want from her. Right, to use a word of the left. It is a systemic problem within the echelons and the leadership and the powers at play at People magazine that enable her to do this.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Alicia Krause
So, yes, it is her decision to do it, but she is also hankering for a paycheck and an article to get posted. And she's like, yeah, I'll do the obit. I haven't had a piece in a week. This is the thing I was talking about, right? Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, austere religious scholar at the helm of Islamic State, ISIS. You know, terrorist group ISIS. That one dies at 48.
Adam Carolla
Scott Adams disgraced. Dilbert Carrader. I know they're so morally bankrupt that they cannot draw a distinction between these. But also, if. Let's just say Mark Ruffalo died, I wouldn't Dispatch Donald Trump Jr. To write his obit. You know what I mean? Cause I would go, that's not gonna end up like a thoughtful. I wouldn't put this person in that position. I would know that person's not gonna write a good obit about this person. You know the chick with 15 different. You know her politics and, you know, Scott Adams politics. They don't care. I know they don't care, but expect this to happen is what I'm saying.
Alicia Krause
Yes.
Adam Carolla
And I'm sort of happy for it in that you get what you get. You said something really shitty about a dead person, and now people are making you feel bad on the Internet.
Alicia Krause
I don't know that she's Gonna learn her lesson.
Adam Carolla
I think she will in that I.
Alicia Krause
Think she's just gonna blame it on.
Adam Carolla
No, here's my whole point. There's two ways you can learn a lesson. You can have some sort of moral reckoning, which she's never gonna do.
Alicia Krause
That's not true. You can plant little seeds. It can happen. So you know that.
Adam Carolla
She's not going to have a moral reckoning. My daughter spit in the face of her nanny when she was 2, and her nanny smacked her, and she's never spit on anyone now. My daughter didn't have a moral reckoning. She got smacked, okay? She shut up and she stopped spitting on people.
Alicia Krause
Yep.
Adam Carolla
This chick's getting smacked right now. And she may not be learning a lesson, but she's going to think long and hard. If Dennis Prager passes and she has to go write that headline, she's gonna think, I know. Knock on wood. No, I'm just picking somebody who's conservative. The point is a big name. She's gonna have to think long and hard because she doesn't wanna get dragged through the Internet again and again. There's two lessons you can learn. There's a moral reckoning and then there's a slap in the face, and she doesn't wanna do that. These posts.
Alicia Krause
She has protected posts now.
Adam Carolla
She has protected posts now, I think.
Alicia Krause
Did she have the Miss Piggy profile picture up beforehand, though?
Adam Carolla
She's.
Alicia Krause
She's in on the joke a little bit. She's like, okay, if you're gonna call me Miss Piggy, I'll put up the Miss Piggy pic. I'm just saying, as a person who is fine with disciplining children, not smacking them on the face. But you know that. I think that, yes, she might pause, but she will also continue to build a case against conservatives 100% and make herself a victim. Instead of being retrospective and thinking about, what could I have done differently or what did I do?
Adam Carolla
100%. She's never gonna write another horrible headline about a conservative because she got it.
Alicia Krause
Or the alternative is she feels like a victim, she feels like she was justified, and she doubles down just to please her own.
Adam Carolla
Not in the headline department, I don't think. But she's getting dragged through the Internet. She doesn't like. There's a thousand pictures calling her fat ass and she hates it. All right, let me just tell you something on a happier note, okay? I got a buck slip. I'm happy to say everyone get a buck slip. It's the greatest. A little stiff. I have Them, I use them all the time. They're probably eyeballing it. They're 4 inches wide and about 9 or 10 inches long. And they're awesome because they got a little heft and you can ride on them. I got a buck slip and it says Ace nearly spit my coffee out this morning when you were talking about. God, some people with their penmanship. Talking to Jason about legal California companies sell gift certificates and then not honor them. It was illegal for that in California anyway. Meanwhile here in North Carolina, I've been clinging to a P. F Chang's gift card like it's a family heirloom. I got it almost three years ago and want you to have it. I wanna send it to you. It's tough to read. Anyway, your comments today reminded me I still had it. So I thought I'd mail it to you as a Christmas gift. Get it on. And I guess this is from Chris Johnson. Cause that's what it says at the bottom of the buck slip.
Alicia Krause
Point is you're taking me out to lunch.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. I love PF Changs. And I wanna thank Chris. It's belated cause it's been a minute. But he. And I'm definitely taking advantage of it. And also anyone wants to know my wiring these buck slips. I'm not throwing it away because I can write notes on the back side of the buck.
Alicia Krause
Yep.
Adam Carolla
I even got. I got white buck slips and light blue buck slips. And white buck slips are jokes and creative. And the light blue ones are the list of life. The things. The hardware store, the things to do.
Alicia Krause
Interesting.
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Alicia Krause
I have some news, and I don't know if I should intro this or just roll the tape, man, because this one is so good. Did you hear about Donald Trump going to Michigan at a Ford plant over the last couple of days?
Adam Carolla
I. I did hear about that. I saw my friend Jim Farley, who runs a thing who looks just like Chris Farley, who's related to Chris Farley.
Alicia Krause
All right, so originally, TMZ had this video. Now it's gone everywhere. But President Trump flipped the bird at a person who shouted that he was a pedophile protector during a Tuesday trip to a Ford plant in Michigan, A clearly irritated president pointed and twice mouthed, f you from an elevated platform at the heckler. He then extended his middle finger.
Adam Carolla
Sorry, we're there. Like, I see. I mean, we're just there in terms of. I'm watching Jacob fry Mayor Minneapolis on Anderson Cooper. And he's like, I will say it once, I'll say it again. Fuck ice. Yeah, fuck ice. It's like, okay, you weren't supposed to be able to do this, and now everybody does it and nobody cares. This is all the parsley on the side of the plate of life, which is every time you go to a diner in the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s, it came with a sprig of parsley. And then everyone would go, why do we need this parsley? Cause it has to have it. And then at some point, it left. And then nobody cared. And it was like, I started off my career, them going list. You can say boobs, but you can't say tits. Now, Bob, where are we at with tatas? You can say ta, but not ta. Ta's. Like, I was on Comedy Central. They were literally told me once, say women's underwear, but don't say women's underpants. I didn't know they had weird rules. Lots of rules. But the point is, is now everyone just says whatever the fuck they want, just cuts away. And it's cable, it's insane, and nobody cares. And every mayor, I mean, you see these mayors, like, you know, the Lakers win the playoffs and they're doing the big. They win the championship, and they're doing the parade. And then the mayor just gets up and he's like, fuck the Celtics. It's like, okay, yeah, weirdo.
Alicia Krause
We used to have decorum. Yes, well, apparently, this. The guy that was yelling at him is a 40 year old United Auto Workers Local 600 line worker at that Ford factory. His name is TJ Sabula, and he said he was an independent and has, quote, no regrets whatsoever. I don't feel as though fate looks upon you often, and when it does, you better be ready to seize the opportunity. That sounds like Michael Jordan going into an NBA playoff game. And today I think I did that. He said that it was a reference to the Justice Department slow release of the files of the notorious late sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein. The White House was asked for comment on this, and I pulled it up because I found it hilarious. White House comms director Stephen Chung said in a statement, quote, a lunatic was wildly screaming expletives in a complete fit of rage. And the President gave an appropriate and unambiguous response.
Adam Carolla
Can we play it?
Alicia Krause
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
That's him. While we're there.
Alicia Krause
My favorite comment with somebody on Instagram was like, I love this about Trump, but Melania doesn't. He's going to get an earful when he gets home.
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
Alicia Krause
She prefers it when he acts like a gentleman.
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
Alicia Krause
Also this at the same speech. This was the best. He was dating Joe. He was doing a speech on the economy and making America great again. And then he talked about GDP expectations and how it was better than Biden. And then he just went on a riff about Joe Biden.
Adam Carolla
There we go. You ever noticed Joe would always cough before a speech? State of the Union gets, Ladies and gentlemen.
Guest Speaker (possibly a comedian or commentator)
And then it would be like, very short.
Sean Duffy
Although the one time they had him.
Adam Carolla
Spruced up pretty good. Remember, he was high as a kite. I'll tell you, there's a thing that you have to be careful of a little bit. And also, fuck Joe Biden. I mean, that guy tried to put this guy in jail, maybe almost got him killed with a bullet. Biden's a horrible guy. He's corrupt, his family's corrupt. He's an insane narcissist and he hurt this country. So you can say whatever you want about Joe Biden. He's just a race hustler and a liar. But anyway, anything else other than that, I'm a big fan. He's a horrible president, but he was also a race hustler. He just said, yeah, anyway, it's horrible for this country anyway, and he's totally corrupt. But Trump and anyone. People have to be careful of this. And I'll tell you how it works. People who aren't comedians and not traditional comedians, especially when they're in roles like rabbis, you know what I mean? Or Anyone delivering a eulogy or anyone like a school teacher. Remember when you're. Well, homesch us regular folk, you guys remember your one funny teacher, but your one funny teacher wasn't really funny. He was just funny for a school teacher. He'd be like, hey, Carolla, you're awesome. Sometimes you're good and sometimes you're bad. Stupid, corny jokes, you know what I mean? But he'd be the funny one. And Trump has this captive audience. And Trump is, he loves to perform. Super funny for a president, but not necessarily super funny for a comedian. But everyone's gonna laugh super hard because you don't expect a principal or president or the gym coach to be funny or the priest or the rabbi. They can always get a big laugh. So you have to be careful because it gets easy. And then you can start just sort of doing a lot of material because they're always gonna be laughing. And like, it's a kind of a thing where comedians. And I'm this way too. You can go travel the country and play to sold out rooms that are all your audience. And then you walk out and it's real easy. But what you need to do is pop up at the Comedy Store on a Wednesday night or whatever and do 15 minutes. Cause that's not your audience. They're not there to see you. And then you get a real feel of how your material is working with folk that aren't there necessarily to see you. But Trump always is like that comedian that always has his audience. You know what I mean?
Alicia Krause
Or also, I think with a pastor or a politician, you're also gonna get the awe factor. That even though clearly there were some people at this Ford plant that weren't fans of his, the vast majority of the people are his fans. So he can do no wrong. So when they're looking at him through that perspective, when he's like, hey, everything's cheaper this year, even though it isn't, they're like, yeah, it's cheaper. And when he talks about how crappy Biden is, they're like, yeah, he's crappy. Or when he does the Biden impersonation, they think it's hilarious because it's your team and we're all inclined at a human level to like, hoorah. Rt.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, you need to get your art judged by a critic, not a fan. Sometimes we have Philly DA Larry Krasner trying to get some media heat saying, f not funny.
Alicia Krause
Oh, I remember this one. Yep.
Adam Carolla
Let's see what he says. If any law enforcement agent Any ICE.
Sean Duffy
Agent is going to come to Philly.
Adam Carolla
To commit crimes, then you can get the F out of here. Oh, yeah.
Alicia Krause
Oh, he didn't even say it. That's like me. So me saying, you can get the F out of here. No, you gotta say it, man. Come on.
Adam Carolla
So he's saying if you're from ice.
Alicia Krause
Yes.
Adam Carolla
And you just decide to go rogue and go to Philly and commit crimes like robbing liquor stores or something, then you can leave.
Alicia Krause
If he means shooting innocent people, which is the leftist narrative of what happened in Minneapolis, but also you should go.
Adam Carolla
There and then leave or not go at all.
Alicia Krause
Good question.
Adam Carolla
Because he said if you're going to come here, you should leave.
Alicia Krause
Yeah. If you're going to come here to.
Adam Carolla
Commit crimes, then you need to leave.
Alicia Krause
But Ilhan Omar and AOC think that all that ICE is doing is unconstitutional and crime committing. So he's telling them not to do their jobs within the city of Philadelphia.
Adam Carolla
I don't know. Well, here's the entire. I mean, let me explain something and sorry, what the chick think stuff. But we're there, we're there. I mean, women are going nuts. But the problem with women and some guys is if you. Let's just say you're in a relationship, you know what I mean? And somebody goes, I'm going to pull up my car. Your husband is going to pull up his car in front of the garage so he can unload groceries and bring them into the house. Well, if that's what he's doing. But you say this guy pulls up in front of the garage, blocks me in the garage, and then just goes into the house. If that's what you're saying he's doing, then he is a bad guy and his actions are wrong. So Ilhan Omar and all the nutty chicks on the squad are just like these people coming to town. They don't answer to anybody. They come in unmarked vans, they start grabbing citizens and disappearing them and then they put them in gulags.
Alicia Krause
Tim Waltz was saying the same thing.
Adam Carolla
They put them in sweatshops in Honduras. It's like, okay, well, if any of that happened ever, then that'd be bad. Except for none of that happens. But if you're working on the premise that that's what's going on, then you're married to a bad guy who blocks you in the garage. Now. Well, I say the guy pulled up and maybe the guy could have parked on the street and carried the groceries up into the house, but it was so much closer to pull up in front of the garage, but ended up blocking you in the garage, which you didn't like, but he was doing it because you're performing a service and a task.
Alicia Krause
Yep.
Adam Carolla
So you want to characterize it as this maniac just pulls up and blocks me in the garage, and I got to pick up the kids, and now I can't get out of the garage. Well, then that sounds like a bad guy, and it sounds like he should not do that. Now, if you characterized it as you assholes left the border open, Congress made laws, and we're just applying those laws using force, essentially like a police force would do. We're taking criminals and sometimes pedophiles and gang bangers and murderers, and we're removing them from these societies where they're terrorizing people. Well, then that makes me sound better.
Alicia Krause
Yep.
Adam Carolla
But they never will do that.
Alicia Krause
Heaven forbid.
Adam Carolla
But their problem is always hyperbole, because I stop listening to them, you stop listening them.
Alicia Krause
But if you're the average. If you're the average voter who's just listening to a snippet of the news on your favorite country station while you're driving to work at a factory, or you're a stay at home mom that's listening to a brief podcast to tell you what's up, the narrative is so tainted.
Adam Carolla
I totally agree. But listen, everybody, can you please have a little intellectual honesty and read between the lines a little bit? You think these guys are pulling up in unmarked vans, grabbing citizens and taking them to a gulag? Do you really? And also, how does that benefit them or the president? You're just grabbing guys could have voted for Trump. Yeah, it's gonna end up in a gulag. First off, this is gonna end up in a lot of lawsuits if you're just grabbing dudes who are walking their dogs and sending them to sweat camps.
Alicia Krause
Did you hear about them apparently going to, like, electric car charging stations and questioning people? And I was like. And they were like, this is. This is targeting of a hard working community. They're trying to target, like, Uber drivers or something.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Alicia Krause
And I'm like, okay, what.
Podcast Producer/Announcer
Yeah, to your point, Adam, is people's hatred for one man has rendered them completely incapable of critical thought.
Adam Carolla
I get it, but you're college educated, you speak for a living, and you share news and ideas with an audience.
Podcast Producer/Announcer
Exactly.
Adam Carolla
Be a little critical. I. But listen, everybody has to do this all the time because there's a micro and a macro version of this. I used to have to do it with Drew all the time. Drew's A little bit of a hysteric. Which is weird.
Alicia Krause
Cause he's emotionally in tune with, I think, how things affect him and other people.
Adam Carolla
It would happen all the time. He'd go, I was walking through the airport, and this woman runs at me, screaming, screaming in my face. And I'd go, she wasn't screaming in your face. She was screaming. I go, okay, Drew, she didn't run at you and start screaming. Well, okay. But she was definitely raised her voice a little, critiqued, whatever. But I had to keep telling them that didn't happen. That didn't happen. Somebody has to explain to these people when they're talking about disappearing citizens, someone has to just go, okay, listen, we don't like what they're doing, and maybe they've crossed the line legally, but whatever it is you're saying is happening is not happening.
Alicia Krause
Yes. You're saying it's a 10, and it's not a 10.
Adam Carolla
I have a clip. Because my theory is always that women are going insane. They've all been weaponized. Most of it. Not all been weaponized by white liberal men. Right. But all the women that are doing most of scuffling and most of the battling out there, it seems like mostly women, which is insane.
Alicia Krause
Well, you know why, right?
Adam Carolla
They hate their dads.
Alicia Krause
No, it's from these race to. To dinner. Joy Reed, Joy Behar, Whoopi Goldberg, like all of these. These leftist people, Ilhan Omar AOC that have been telling white women for the last decade, hey, guys, you're part of the problem because you haven't spoken up. So now it's your time to speak up, because your voices are going to be listened to more. And we don't like white men, so we need white women as allies.
Adam Carolla
Right?
Alicia Krause
So therefore, we're going to have George Sorosa, Jason organizations train you and how to be these crazy radicals and hinder ICE in their job. And then it makes all of the white women feel guilty and shamed and embarrassed for how America is systemically horrible to people of color and immigrants and yada, yada. And then it weaponizes them to do stupid things, and it makes all women look bad.
Adam Carolla
And the great thing about Joy Reid is she's such a race hustler that she's like, well, now black women can't do it. Cause they'll just be hunted down and killed. We need white women to do it, and white women won't get shot. Yeah, shot. She said, yeah, hey, bitch. Yeah, she just got shot. A white chick and her white friend. That's what a race hustler Joy Reid is, and also how she doesn't adhere to any sort of gravity or truth or any coherence of Nothing. She's just 100% bullshit all the time.
Alicia Krause
But if you're a millennial woman, whether you're, let's say, independent or of the left, and you are told this for 10 years by people that you deem to be the truth tellers.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Alicia Krause
But also, then of course, you're going to be brainwashed to do these things.
Adam Carolla
It also helps to hate your dad. It helps. Thank you. I'll play a clip. Oh, it all goes back to that. Everything goes back to that. No reverence for pops. Are these ladies looking for a new type of exercise? Psychiatrists are telling primetime that these women have deep rooted anger issues and immigration agents are just an excuse for a punching bag. You know, one thing that Haiti Men.
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Has trained me for is literally trained.
Adam Carolla
Me for chasing ICE cars off of my street.
Pluto TV Announcer
Five of them right now, following down the neighborhood, honking, blowing whistles, telling them to off.
Adam Carolla
All that rage that I have felt towards men is coming out.
Alicia Krause
I have been trained for this moment.
Adam Carolla
She has. She hates her dad. The rage that I have felt, she hates her daddy. There's a lot of this, by the way. A lot of broken families, a lot of dads abandoning. Lots of hatred for dad. Lots of daddy issues.
Podcast Producer/Announcer
Critical thought would say, let's arrest the people who are raping and killing women.
Alicia Krause
They're worse than the ICE officers.
Adam Carolla
But also, there's another thing that I keep getting back to, which is life used to be very tactile and practical. You know, it was very much, get up when the sun comes up, go milk the cow with the thing. You know, go make. Harvest the eggs. You know what I mean? Like, it was like, you didn't do it right. You'd freeze and you wouldn't have food for the winter and stuff.
Alicia Krause
And there was cohesion because everybody relied on each other. Like, Pa Wilder was out hunting and in the fields, and Ma Wilder was at home keeping the fire stoked and baking all the pies.
Adam Carolla
Mm. And Gene Wilder was acting like some kind of homo.
Alicia Krause
Do you not get the Little House on the Prairie reference? That's old. Nobody got the Little House on the Prairie reference.
Adam Carolla
I was talking about the guy who ended up Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
Alicia Krause
The only version I will watch.
Adam Carolla
No, no, listen. I was the guy who made a Little House on the Prairie reference when we were doing. Oh, God, you can find it. I was doing a thing with Bari Weiss in Austin. And I made the Little House on the Prairie reference and I watched the shit out of that show. But my point is, is everyone had a job, everyone was engaged. But there was a. A practicality that is baked in with a way of living. And so all the guys I know who build for a living have a kind of a logic, because your thoughts and your feelings don't really factor into structure and engineering. It's like you can hope and thank and whatever you can talk about. First off, you can talk all you want. It's never gonna get built.
Alicia Krause
Yep.
Adam Carolla
So there's an action part of it.
Alicia Krause
Secondly, you can want it to look away, and it's not gonna happen.
Adam Carolla
There's a real sort of mechanically brass tax of when you work in a mill and you work around blades and blah, blah, blah. So it's all baked in. And women had their version of that. I mean, they may have not been going to the mill, but they're baking and slaughtering, plucking chickens and wringing their necks and making stew and stuff. Like there's a real order and a mechanical sort of thing. And so people understood gravity and practicality. And you wouldn't stand in front of a wagon screaming, wagon's gonna run you over. But you would know that if you were Little House on the Prairie.
Alicia Krause
Yep. You're saying life has gotten too easy for these lads.
Adam Carolla
It got weird and it got too digital and sort of gravity. There's no gravity anymore.
Alicia Krause
Can we also talk about how the algorithm is feeding this, though? Because there's that too. Like voices like yours or Bari Weiss or Ben Shapiro or Fox. Like they can't break through all the time to these people because of the algorithm is like feeding that lady more male hate, more ice hate, more Trump hate.
Adam Carolla
But here's what I would argue. If you come from the farm, you're much less susceptible to impractical thoughts.
Alicia Krause
You're gonna filter things a little bit.
Adam Carolla
You go, well, that doesn't make sense. That doesn't hold up. Yeah, I'm sorry. Me talking about Little House on the Fire. Sorry. And we took in the last 10 minutes, everyone, and we put them in a cubicle and we fired an air conditioning at him and we told them to do data entry on a computer and we started eating our own brains. I mean, they have studies that say, you know, all the kids on Prozac and all the meds and stuff, hiking and classical music work better than all the serotonin reuptake inhibitors you can ingest. So we're having. You watch, you know, Little House on the Prairie. No one was depressed. Everyone was miserable, but no one was depressed. All right, so Little House on the Prairie reference. And then a lot of people would tweet me. They go, that was a made up story. You know, I'm like, yeah, I know. I watched it on TV in North Hollywood in 1974.
Podcast Producer/Announcer
Congratulations on using serotonin intake inhibitors.
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
Alicia Krause
Without stumbling on it, did you ever.
Podcast Producer/Announcer
Did a young Adam Carolla think those words would ever come out of your mouth?
Adam Carolla
It's not intake, it's uptake. Uptake. Okay. No. But I sat next to Dr. Drew for so long that I know what Peyronie's disease is and I know what Dartik's tunic is and stuff. I know it all stuff because he said it all the time. It's a great joke.
Podcast Producer/Announcer
And that just makes it more. More better because.
Adam Carolla
More better.
Alicia Krause
My husband and I finished watching the Marcello. What's his last name? That's on snl.
Adam Carolla
That does a really great.
Alicia Krause
Sebastian man. Dude.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, yeah.
Alicia Krause
Like, impersonation. And he has a whole thing about how his mother had to escape Cuba at 12 years old because, you know, the government took her house and how they were not allowed to be depressed or have add.
Adam Carolla
Right, right.
Alicia Krause
And she was like, oh, if anybody in this house should have depression, it is me.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, yeah. No.
Alicia Krause
Or you're add. No, I will give you add.
Adam Carolla
That'll work.
Alicia Krause
So funny.
Adam Carolla
All right, one more with the RFK story. Do you have that?
Alicia Krause
This one's great. And I, like. I'm going to hop on that plane and try to join you at the Kennedy center because I want to meet him and see this happen. I want to see the Carolla Kennedy, like, collab.
Adam Carolla
Well.
Alicia Krause
And I want to see what he says about your eating habits. This. We're just going to play this clip. This clip is gold. Get ready.
Ali Jackson
Who has the most unhinged eating habits?
Guest Speaker (possibly a comedian or commentator)
The President. You know, the interesting thing about the President is that he eats really bad food, which is McDonald's, and then, you know, candy and Diet Coke, but he drinks the Diet Coke at all times. He has a constitution of a deity. I don't know how he's alive, but he is. But. And he's at Mar a Lago. He says. He says that the only time that he eats the junk food is when he's on the road and he wants to eat food from big corporations because he trusts it. He doesn't want to get sick when he's on the road. But when he's at Mar a Lago or at the White House, he's eating really good food. So I think you get this. If you travel with him, you get this idea that he's just pumping himself full of poison all day long and you don't know how he's walking around, much less being the most energetic person, you know, any of us have ever met.
Adam Carolla
Well, a bunch of stuff. Kennedy is not gonna be joining me in D.C. his people reached out, said he wanted to be a part of it, and then said now there's something came up with the schedule and whatever. I know, but we'll talk. You need me to stand in, we'll get him on. He's a very honest guy and he's not a politician, so he doesn't do the bullshit politician spin on everything. He does the honest answer on everything.
Alicia Krause
That's how he really feels about Trump's diet.
Adam Carolla
But also, look, if you have a motor, everyone always talks. People all the time. They go, I had red meat, then I got really tired after I ate the red meat. If you have a motor, what Trump does is Trump wants to get stuff done all the time, in a hurry. And that gets him and it keeps him up and it moves him. I remember one time I was moving, I was doing a big remod and I was so into it and so hands on and like, so motivated that I just sprung out of bed, like, literally every morning early. Now I like to sleep in and I like to relax like everyone else, but I had something to do that was motivating me and the same thing as other people who have nothing to motivate them. They're tired all the time. So it's not just about sort of blood sugar or eating fast food. It's more about your brain. Like, are you with.
Alicia Krause
He's just geared different.
Adam Carolla
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Adam Carolla
Shows@Adamcarolla.Com Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy has joined me from D.C. good to see you, Sean.
Sean Duffy
Adam, good to see you, too. Thanks for having me on.
Adam Carolla
I was alerted that you were on MTV the same time I was on MTV in the late 90s, which kind of blew my mind.
Sean Duffy
But just not as famous as you, you know, not as funny as you. Yeah, so I was on, I did the Real World Boston, which was in 1997, did a real World challenge the year after. Actually, this is my claim to fame, Adam. My wife did the Real World San Francisco season and we met on a special. So we were the first reality TV couple. We have our actually meeting on tape and we have nine kids who are the most productive.
Adam Carolla
Wow. Nine kids. I miss those times. I think. I mean, I'm trying to think. Well, I think the zero kids is a problem that we're Having. Right.
Sean Duffy
That is a problem.
Adam Carolla
Right. Right now. So tell me exactly. Just work. I have a lot of thoughts about transportation. But for you, what's your biggest problem? And work in order of sort of importance. Like, is it air travel, airports, air traffic controllers, that kind of the big thing on your plate?
Sean Duffy
So this is the. I haven't answered this question probably in eight months. So probably number one, two and three, maybe even four is modernizing, fixing our air traffic control system. So. And I'll come to the others in a second, but you've probably seen some of this. Your, your viewers and listeners have seen it as well. We have a system that dates back to equipment from the, you know, 70s, 80s, 90s. So, you know, if you think back to the 80s and the little copper wire that we used for our handheld, you know, our phones, right. The, the corded phones before even the cordless, that's the system we use to transmit data. So we have to move from analog to digital, copper to fiber. A lot of companies already did this a decade ago. We're just doing this right now. Our radar date back to the. I think our newest model is from 1983. So we're going to build and buy new radar, new radios for air traffic controllers. But I need like $31.5 billion. Congress gave me 12.5 billion. I think we're going to get the rest. But the real sweet spot is you need new software to navigate what is already a busy airspace. It's going to only get busier. And then if you see these evitals, the Ubers in the air that are the pods that will take people from one location to the other, that's going to make the airspace more complicated. We have drones now that are coming to deliver your Uber eats or your car coffee or a three to five pound package from the drugstore or Walmart. So that complication means we need new software that's going to take us some time to develop and deploy. I need resources for that. But that is the number one issue. I mean, making sure people are safe and there's more efficiency in the airspace, so there's less delay. So that's number one. I'm also pushing again, the autonomous vehicles. Right. I think the world's going to change in the way that cars move. That technology is important. China is doing incredibly well with their technology. We have to have an environment where America can evolve, innovate and deploy this new technology. And again, the evitals, like I mentioned, drones important we want to. This is the directive from the president we want to build roads, Adam. We spend so much money on our roads and bridges, and sometimes you look around like, where in the hell did the money go? Like, who spent this money? So I'm trying to do all I can to spend the money as efficiently as possible to give a better return for the American people, and a lot of it's wasted. So we're trying to streamline the regulatory process so we can build more and build faster.
Adam Carolla
Well, the autonomous cars, the self driving and whatever, I think people have some sort of thought like human beings would be more accurate or make less mistakes or something. Obviously, statistically that's not true. We're having to take an older generation who wants to feel a steering wheel, and we're in the middle of sort of transitioning into the next generation who'll be fine sitting in the back of a car with no driver. It's hard to get old guys to be comfortable with that because they. But that's always been true. I mean, they're guys that probably didn't want to get off a horse and get into a Model T. So it's always a generational thing. It'll be easy. But for me, I'm in Los Angeles. The amount of people in Los Angeles who are unaware that you can turn right on a red when there's no traffic coming is. Is incredible. So I find myself sitting in the right lane. The cars are backed up. The person at the front of the queue doesn't know it's okay to turn right. We could all get on with our life. An autonomous self driving car would know that. And thus we wouldn't have all of this sort of driver error delay. I mean, if you think about traffic, you know, if you picture a roller coaster, a roller coaster has 25 cars on it. They're all 18 inches apart. And they move at 60 miles an hour, but in unison. And then. And we have one person who's texting at a red light and doesn't know it's time to turn. Holding up the rest of the roller coaster carts. Get rid of that aspect of it. And then you don't have to widen the freeways or build a second story on the 405. Everyone is moving just the zipper. People don't even know the zipper move. People, especially in la, just have no idea how to drive. And we never try to help them. We never say use your signal or turn right on a red. We never do that. We just say slow down, click it.
Sean Duffy
Or ticket or people will drive by them, flip them off or honk their horns. Then we have road rage and a whole bunch of problems that evolve from that. But first of all, I'm like, you are. I'm of a generation that I want to drive my car. I like my hands on the wheel. There's a sense of freedom in our generation, maybe that we have from vehicles, which, by the way, you hear these stats, I couldn't wait to get my driver's license. These new, younger kids sometimes are 17, 18, 20 years old. They don't have a driver's license. They take Uber. And I'm like, I couldn't wait to get my driver's license because the freedom that came along with it. So there's a generational divide here, Adam, that I think we have. But to your point, you're right. If you look at congestion and what technology is going to do to reduce congestion, not by building, again, more roads or, you know, a second 405 on top of the 405 it is, you're going to be able to put cars closer together and move them more systematically across the roadways, because technology is going to help space them and move them and more traffic and flow and the same infrastructure that we have right now, but we're not there yet. And we do have a lot of congestion issues across the country.
Adam Carolla
And I never really thought about it, but obviously going back 100 years in this country, you had almost nothing in the air. You know, you had a biplane that was dropping off mail. That was about it. And now you have a million Southwest flights and commercial flights. And then there's private stuff. And then the drone thing, I mean, and the personal transportation sort of drone stuff. The skies are going to get really congested in the next 20 years, I would imagine. And we're going to have to keep track of all that.
Sean Duffy
I think you're going to see, you know, 5 and 10%, 20% increases. As we just look out into the next decade, we're going to see substantial growth. But in the US we have the most complicated airspace. Nobody in the world has an airspace like ours because of, because of our airlines, but also general aviation. A ton of those planes are in the air. And then the new innovation as well. And I think, listen, I think our government, meaning me, in government, we owe it to the American people to think through the big problems that we have and try to resolve them to make people's lives better. And what we're trying to do with air traffic control, again, we're controlling airplanes, and we need to update and upgrade a system. It's not the easiest thing to do. So what's happened is it should have been done, you know, 20 years ago, but instead, one person passes it to the next, and they say they have a plan, they say they have money, but they actually don't do anything to fix it. And we find ourselves. I don't know if you recall this. In Newark, we lost communication for 45 seconds. We lost air traffic control communication with airplanes. That's a bad thing right now, the pilots are well trained. Everyone goes into a hold. They know what to do. But that happened twice because we didn't have the right connectivity. We had old lines that weren't working correctly. So it can become dangerous if you. And again, it's safe now, but if I look out 10 years, it's not going to be safe. And so I think we should do what we can to say, hey, I want you to be less delayed. I want your flight to be faster again. It used to be faster to fly from Chicago to Dallas 30 years ago than it is today. Not because airplanes fly faster, flew faster then. It's because of all the patterns we have to fly and how we're navigating traffic. With a new air traffic control system, you can make it really efficient to use the same airspace, but put more aircraft into it. And so, again, nobody has a system like ours. Again, Europe doesn't have it, Asia doesn't have it. No one has as many aircraft as we do. We have to think differently about how we manage our airspace. There's nothing off the shelf I can take from Taiwan or from Europe and say, we could use this here. It doesn't exist because we're so unique.
Adam Carolla
Is this a safe statement to say your predecessor, Pete Buttigieg, was talking about racist bridges and that everyone in the Biden and everyone who Biden nominated and Biden himself and Kamala Harris, they were constantly talking about feelings and people who felt lesser than or didn't have a seat at the table or women of color or something. But I never heard a lot of brass tacks talk like Trump himself. And then everybody he's nominated and put into place is always just talking about systems, percentages better. I don't hear any feelings talk, which I'm very happy about. I didn't hear like Trump's all Trump talks like a commercial builder. You know, he wants to go. He wants to go fast. He wants to talk numbers. He wants to talk engineering. And I noticed that everybody in his cabinet seems to have adopted that kind of nuts and bolts. We don't Want to get mired down talking about good vibes and feelings all the time, which is all I heard from Biden and Kamala Harris. I did not. And Pete Buttigieg, I didn't hear what the plan was. It was just a lot of, you know, people of color need a seat at the table. And I was like, yeah, but what is the plan? Do you feel? Is that a safe statement with the Trump cabinet that everyone has just adopted the nuts and bolts approach?
Sean Duffy
That is completely accurate. The president knows he has now three years left. He wants to do as much as possible to accomplish his agenda and his goals, which means, you know what? For us, we're going to build. We're going to build fast. And you talked about feelings. You're exactly right. Racist roads and everything was about race and DEI and disadvantaged businesses, and that's fine. But the time it would take for compliance for people who want to build or the cost increases that this put on the system, which means, again, we're trillions of dollars short in building out our infrastructure. And you're taking already money that you're short on and using it to focus on the feelings or these social priorities as opposed to. Listen, I don't get involved in the politics. I look at California, I look at New York, listen, I don't like their politics. I'm not a fan of the politics of these two states. But it's American infrastructure. Republicans and Democrats use the roads and bridges, and so let's use the money as well as possible. Another thing they did, I mean, I think that we should have a federal priority. Again, the Congress can send money to me to spend it on what they want, and I have to do that. I respect them. But if I have discretionary money, why am I building bike paths or bike trails or walking paths in some community in some part of the country? I think, again, if your state wants to do that or your community wants to do that, I'm fine with that. That's great. You guys should fund that. But we should spend our money on the big projects that the states and the counties can't, you know, they can't fund that themselves. So let's do the big projects that move people, move products more effectively through the system. But if we spend all the money on the bike lanes and the bike paths, the walking paths, that's a road or a bridge or a freeway, we don't complete.
Adam Carolla
Well, California is idealistic. And so they have a lot of ideas. And the ideas are very simple and they're sort of noble, but they Never work. So we say, look, we should have judgment free zones in San Francisco where people could shoot up drugs without being judged. And you're like, okay, you can try that. But it always turns into a shit show. It never works. And we're gonna have a lane, and we're gonna go on road diets, and we'll have a lane where people can ride their bicycles to work like they do in Europe and in Amsterdam, okay? But it never works. People live in Simi Valley and they work in downtown la, and there's some version of life and community that lives in their head, but it doesn't work practically. And they implement it, and then they get into trouble. So we're building a bullet train because in Europe they have bullet trains, and we love the notion of whatever Europe is doing, they must be so much better than what we're doing. And we fly these dirty old airplanes, but they have bullet trains, and everyone's happy there. And they ride their bikes to the bullet trains train, and they get where they need to go with the bullet train. So in California, we want a bullet train and we decide to build a bullet train. But now the problem, Somebody has to build the bullet train. And that's not the part they worked out. They worked out the artist's rendition of the bullet train making its way through wine country at 300 miles an hour while people with bicycles got ready to get on at the next stop. But that's never what it turns into because they cannot achieve their dreams, because their dreams are pie in the sky. And they can't execute anything because they don't have any experience executing anything. They're not builders. They never come from the private sector, the professional politicians who sit on their ass and dream all day and never get anything done. So thus, we have a bullet train that goes from Bakersfield to Merced. And, you know, if people listen, don't know where that is, I don't blame you because I live in California and I barely know where that is. Nobody would ever utilize a train to get from one of those spots to the other. I don't know. It's 100 miles. You can drive it in your SUV and make it faster. And now we're billions of dollars into this dream because we think we're California and we have to lead the way.
Sean Duffy
So, first off, I love what you just said. You're absolutely right. I'm gonna get to the bullet trainer in a second. But liberals don't build a. They seem to destroy things.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Sean Duffy
Right. They don't. And I'll get to this in a second. But they're supposed to be the party of government, right? They love government, they love to use government. They want bigger government, they want more of it. They want involved in every aspect of our life. So you'd think they would be professionals at running good government. And the truth is that that could be further from the truth. So the bullet train. I'm not opposed to high speed rail. I actually think we should have high speed rail in America. It's a good thing in California. This was going to be a $33 billion project. I'm going off my memory now, Adam. It's going to be $130 billion project. It can't be built, it can't be funded. Over 15 years, they've spent a little over $15 billion. Not one high speed rail track was laid. I think there was a lot of grift in this project. I think a lot of people were making money and they weren't actually moving towards building the train. And so we gave federal money to that project, we cut it, we canceled it. We are not going to fund a train that will never be built. And by the way, you said it was Bakersfield to Merced. It was supposed to be from LA to San Francisco, but that was too long and too much for them. So they actually truncated it and made it from two places that people don't really travel in California. But here's, I keep asking even my Democrat friends, I mean, could you help me speak liberalism? So look at trains, not high speed rail, but transit systems, Adam, whether it's in New York or in North Carolina.
Adam Carolla
Or.
Sean Duffy
Chicago, you have dirty, filthy trains that are homes for the most violent element in our society and we pay for them. And I'm supposed to get on a train. I would never put my daughter on the MTA, the New York City subway at 7 o' clock at night and send her through any stops because it's not safe. If you believe in trains and you don't like cars, you and I like cars. They don't like cars. They want us all on public transit. It should be the most beautiful, safe system that you could ever. It should be European. And the way you deliver that asset to the American people and they deliver crap violent and people are forced to write it. But if you believe in government, show that you can actually manage these projects and run them well so people actually want to use them. But instead you make a homeless shelter and you have people who are getting, whether they're getting stabbed, they're getting robbed, they're getting pushed, you know, onto the tracks. That's not the way it should be. And so I get frustrated because. And even when we build projects I mentioned, we're focused on dei. We're focused on a whole bunch of things that don't actually make life better for the people who pay taxes and give it to, whether it's the local or state or federal government to actually make improvements. So my life, I get more time back. I get a better experience with my federal government. Airports are the same thing we should do wave. If you ever fly through other parts of the world, beautiful airports. You know, we have an old infrastructure and we're going to work on that. How do we upgrade our airports across the country? We oversee them, but I don't manage them. But we could do a way better job in America in transportation. And part of the problem is Democrats say they want one thing and they promise one thing. I think you said the bullet train through Napa Valley, it's beautiful. But what the deliverable is is garbage. And people don't get what they bargain for with the government when their liberal is in charge.
Adam Carolla
But the question is, is it dead in the water now that the federal funding has ceased?
Sean Duffy
So it's dead in the water, per DOT's perspective. But if California can come up with another $100 billion and build a project on the backs of the California taxpayer, they have every right to do that. They can build it, but the federal taxpayer is not going to fund this project, Adam. It's not going to be built. There's just, I don't see a pathway forward that it would be built in the next 10 years. And I don't think they even match the number of 130 billion that it's estimated to cost right now. Again, a really bad project run by, I think, bad politicians.
Adam Carolla
Well, what people don't realize is everything is so much more expensive to build in California because it's so regulated. And I think people, when they think about business or building and they think about building costs, they think about the cost of materials and cement and plywood and steel. But it's really about the regulations. It's about what they'll let you do. And the regulations in California are such that it makes it impractical to build things. Everything is 10 times more expensive to build here. If anyone doesn't believe me, go online and try to order certain items that'll ship to any other state. And they go, we won't ship to California. It's illegal in California. You can't Use tempered glass. You have to use laminated glass for your glass railings. Safe for every other state, but California won't let you do it. And guess what? The stuff they will ship is more expensive. And it's just that it's why Malibu's not being rebuilt right now. It's why most of the fire victims have not begun to rebuild their homes. It's not the cost of plywood or the cost of cement. It's the cost of overregulation, which is what California does. Because they're all about government. They love the government. And so they just keep making regulations. They never do anything. They can't build a bullet train and they can't rebuild a house in Malibu. Well, what they can do is make a bunch of regulations that prevent you from doing it.
Sean Duffy
It's reminiscent of the old Soviet Union. This is what you get. So you can't comply with all the rules and regulations and the cost goes up. Listen. And not only the cost of building, if you can build, but the tax cost, the tax burden on productive people in California, which is the exodus from the state, is a beautiful state. It's an amazing place, which is why people move there and want to live there. But it's why, you know, good businesses who love the state are like, we can't be here anymore. Like, I could save 10 or 15% off the bottom line if I just go to Texas. People are packing up and leaving for that very reason, which is, by the way, I'm surprised, Adam, you're still there. I don't know. When you're packing up and moving. You are a trooper, man. You're like, you're a believer, you're staying in California. But it's hard, man. And it doesn't have to be that way. It could be an amazing place that is a home for new investment and innovation and growth, which it used to be that way. But again, when the crazies take over, these are the stupid policies that you get. Because government always knows better than you. For your family or for your business or for your work, for the car, you can buy the kind of energy that you can use. Government and liberals obviously think they know better than the individual.
Adam Carolla
What is the plan? I know there's another controversy with California and Gavin Newsom about the trucker's licenses that they've issued so many truckers licenses. And these are big rig truckers. We've seen the stories, the deaths on the highway that people can't read, can't speak English, can't read the freeway Signs and the highway signs. He handed out a lot of these. We're trying to get it back. What's the catch us up on that story?
Sean Duffy
Yeah, yeah. So first off, the rules that we're using here are rules that, that date back decades. So these are not new DOT rules. They've been on the books for a long time. They just weren't effectively being enforced. So you have to be proficient in the English language to be a commercial driver. No one was really enforcing that law. We said, no, we're going to enforce this. It's a safety issue on American roadways. Every state has been willing to at some level comply with saying, okay, if there's not a proficiency, we'll take those drivers out. All but one state, California. And Gavin Newsom said, you know what? No, we're okay with drivers not being able to speak the language. So you think there's a crash, first responders come. You need to know what the big rig is carrying.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Sean Duffy
What does the 18 Wheeler have on board so you can have an effective response? Or if law enforcement needs to talk in a car crash with the driver, they got to speak English. There's safety reasons behind why we do it. So Gavin said, no, I'm not going to do that. We polled $40 billion from him. But what's even, I think more egregious is Joe Biden let in, I don't know the number. Is it 10 million, 15, 20 million illegals coming over the border. When they came, Adam, he gave all of them basically work permits. So those who came across the border, who we didn't vet, they went to states around the country and with those work permits said, well, I want to get a commercial driver's license. And many of the states issued commercial driver's licenses to these people who came across the border who by the way, went to a sham CDL school. So they're not well trained. They're not trained at all. Sometimes they can't speak the language. They get a driver's license, it's called a non domiciled cdl. And they start driving these rigs across the country. And the problem is they are completely unqualified. And so. And by the way, they're illegally issued as well. So if I have a work permit for one year, you can't give a commercial driver's license that lasts longer than my work authorization. And if I'm illegal in the country, I have no work permit, I can't get a commercial driver's license. And California and some other states, we're Giving driver's licenses, commercial driver's licenses, out like candy. Every state has worked with us to try to commit a compliance on making sure these licenses are properly issued. All but one, California said, no, we're not going to do that. There's about 20,000 drivers that should have their licenses pulled. California said, no, we're not going to do that. So we pulled 160, almost $160 million from the state of California. And the problem, Adam, is if you license someone as a truck driver in California, they just don't drive in California. They drive all across the country.
Adam Carolla
Well, they drive in Florida. Those people got killed in Florida.
Sean Duffy
When you drive everywhere, again, you endanger everyone's life. And you would think that Gavin would put the lives of the American people, or at least Californians, ahead of these people who come into the country unlawfully or they have a work permit. But you would say, I want to do things better to make sure we have safer roads. And he's completely rejected that. At one point, we can get to a place where we can pull California's ability to actually even issue a commercial driver's license. I don't want to do that. I don't want to fight with Gavin Newsom. That doesn't give me. That's not my job. My job is to make sure people are safe when they travel, Whether Democrats or Republicans, I don't care. Everyone should be safe. And so I want them to comply. But I don't speak liberal, so I don't know why he wouldn't. I don't get it.
Adam Carolla
Look, we're in a strange time where Gavin Newsom doesn't have anything to run on. He's got a bullet train that's not half finished. It's gonna get mothballed. He has a homeless problem. He has $5.50 gasoline, and illegals driving semi trucks. So he's not gonna run on that. What he's running on is doing battle with Trump. So if Trump asked him for.
Ali Jackson
For.
Adam Carolla
Anything, if Trump offered anything, he'd say no. When Trump said, we're gonna send a hospital ship into the LA Harbor, LA said, get lost. Now, I don't know what they have against a hospital ship. During COVID they were the ones saying Covid was killing everybody and we were running out of hospital beds, but they still turn away a hospital ship, not because they care. It's because they hated Trump. So whatever. Newsom doesn't even know what he's doing. He's essentially like, if you take a dog and you give a Dog, a rope toy, and you grab one end and the dog grabs the other. The dog pulls backwards, but the dog's not going any direction. The dog's pulling, and if you turn around, the dog will pull the direction you were pulling 10 seconds ago. All the dog is doing is doing the opposite of what you're doing. And that's what Gavin Newsom and many other politicians do. When you bring up criminal illegals being deported or whatever it is, they're just doing the opposite of what Trump is doing, which is really stupid because they look foolish along the way. So all Gavin Newsom is reacting. Meanwhile, anyone who lives in California is suffering because Newsom is doing battle with Trump. And we're getting federal funds held up that we could use, but Newsom's got too much pride to take this money that he needs, and he has a deficit as well.
Sean Duffy
You made a really good point. You're absolutely right. You have these liberal politicians, especially those that want to run for president, and they think they're learning from Trump to say, I need to fight at every single turn. And Trump's a fighter. I mean, he is a remarkable fighter, and it's interesting to watch him operate. But if they truly paid attention to Trump, you would note that he's in the friend business. He tries to have Rela Mandami. He brought Mandami from New York City, the new socialist mayor, to the Oval Office. Mandami says they text back and forth, which is true. Trump uses his phone all the time. He's not just in the business to fight, he's in the business to get results. And if he disagrees, he will fight you. He will push back on you, but he looks for points of agreement where you can work together and improve the lives of the people that he serves. President Trump, America. And Gavin Newsom hasn't actually seen the brilliance of Trump, which is, again, don't. This is not. Let's not worry about it fighting. Let's not fight. Let's actually find points of agreement and the things we can't agree on. We can argue and fight and tweet at each other, but Gavin doesn't do that. He wants to fight on everything. And I don't think that's the best strategy to win the presidential race. I don't. I think that's. That's a pathway to destruction, but I don't. He did. He did a debate. Gavin Newsom, and I think it was Ron DeSantis on Sean Hannity's show. God, it must have been a year and a Half ago. And I tuned in for it. I thought it was going to be, you know, wwe, you know, scrapping and Ron was going to destroy Gavin Newsom. I was shocked at how well Gavin Newsom did in that debate on Hannity's show, talking. I mean, I would have thought California's a great place to live. I mean, he's an effective. He's a politician. He doesn't get results, but he can talk about California in a way that's not true and sell it. And again, if people buy that lie when he runs in 2028, God help America if America turns into California.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, he came into this podcast many years ago and did the same thing for an hour, but I didn't let him get away with that. You can listen to it if you like. It's enjoyable. Yeah, it's interesting. Cuz you said he says things about California that aren't true, which is probably correct. But he does pick and choose his little statistical truths to try to make a point. I would say he talks about California in a way nobody who lives here experiences. You can talk about. We're the fourth largest economy. Yeah. But no one here experiences the California. He's talking about this thing where we're on the vanguard and we're leading the way to the future. Now we just experience homelessness. Garbage everywhere. It's disgusting, by the way, L.A. especially, it's graffiti and garbage everywhere. Trash everywhere. Super high gas prices and a bad school system and a lot of taxes and. And bad roads, by the way, filled with potholes. Oh, one more thing for you, Secretary Sean Duffy. And this is a real thing. And I think people think I'm insane and are obsessed, but I am not. California has a network of freeway electronic signs that must cost millions of dollars. They're every mile and a half and they're supposed to convey information. I just got back from Denver. I'm driving around. I got information on snow and expect icy roads and useful things. All our say is click it or ticket. All our say is put the seatbelt on. It's been the same thing for 25 years. We could get hold of these signs and we could say use your blinker or inflate your tires. We could pass tons of information on. There is no attempt at it. It's never been done. And it says click it or ticket. That's all it says. I need to be in charge of those signs and I need to be the electric sign czar of Los Angeles and California. And I think you could put me in that position.
Sean Duffy
I Think I could. You could do a public service announcement in California. You could say, you can turn right on red.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Sean Duffy
And then you wouldn't have to honk at them. You wouldn't have the guy at the top of the line not turning right. You like. I'm just gonna.
Adam Carolla
Like.
Sean Duffy
As a service to fellow travelers. You can turn right on red.
Adam Carolla
You can use your blinker. I would go. The first year would just be. It's legal to turn right on red. I don't know where you're from, but you can turn right on red when it's safe. Turn right on red. And I would say use your blinker. It's the law. But no one will use your blinker, and no one will turn right on red. And by the way, the person that won't turn right on red won't use their blinker either. So I don't even honk at them. Cause I think they're going straight, and then the light changes and then they turn. So they didn't use the blinker or turn right. If you just put me in charge of those signs, I could really clean this up quickly.
Sean Duffy
I'm gonna look at that. Can I create a California signs are. Adam Carolla is gonna be the guy. Problems all over. But you know what? This. The trumpet. You mentioned something unique about President Trump. And I wouldn't say I was in Congress for the first Trump administration. I watched him operate. I loved him from the very beginning. He was unique. He was different. He thought outside the box. But he had never been president before and didn't have the political acumen. And the left came after him. It was gnarly. You know, he had four years, and he thought about it. The four years of president, the four years to think about it. He's come back, and he is a man on a mission. I think he's created a cabinet. Our cabinet actually likes each other. We try to partner with each other. No one's stabbing each other in the back. We're all everyone's friends. We're trying to work together. And if you want any organization, but especially your government, if you want it to be as effective as possible and get as much done as possible, you need people to work together and to like each other. And he's actually created that environment, which is why I think, you see, I mean, I think people are seeing they can complain about him, even though liberals can complain about him, but they do see movements. Your point?
Ali Jackson
Point.
Sean Duffy
It's about nuts and bolts, and it's about putting points on the board. How are we winning for the American people? And I do think this too, even with going back to some of the things that Doge helped us think through on what kind of systems do we use, do we use AI in government, how are we doing this and what we do to reform and restructure the way the government works. When we leave, it's not going to go away. Even if Gavin Newsom was horribly to win the next election, they're going to look at what we've done and they're going to use what we did to make government more effective. Now, they might still be liberals. They may try to use it for leftist policy, but it's going to run better. And we're all working on making our government more responsive to the American people. And that is going to be the gift, I think, that this administration truly pays forward not just in the next five years, but the next 15 and 20 years.
Adam Carolla
Well said, Sean Duffy. It was great to see you. Give my love to Trump, always a fan, and I hope to catch up with you soon. I'll be in D.C. at the end of the month doing the show at the Trump Kennedy center and I think Harmeet Dhillon is gonna come by. She's text me.
Sean Duffy
So if you I can't wait to see the Tick. Where are my tickets? I would love to come and see you at the Trump Kennedy center. And again, hilarious. And stop by.com we can maybe work on that deal for the signs are California.
Adam Carolla
I'll take you up on it and yeah, I'll send a text to Harmeet and tell her to hit you and we'll get you some comps and come on out and say hi.
Sean Duffy
She's awesome. Thanks, Adam.
Adam Carolla
Thanks, Secretary Duffy. All right, me tomorrow, Grant Pass, Oregon at the Rogue Theater. And then Saturday, Bend, Oregon, Midtown Ballroom and then off to New York Rodney's and then heading off with Megyn Kelly on the 30th and then D.C. kennedy Center 31st. Hopefully Sean will come out and Harmeet will come out. And until next time, Adam Crawford, Alicia Krause and Secretary Sean Duffy saying mahalo.
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Date: January 15, 2026
Guest: Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy
Co-Host: Alicia Krause
In this punchy, wide-ranging episode, Adam Carolla sits down with U.S. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy for a lively discussion about America’s deteriorating infrastructure, California’s controversies over illegal truckers, and the glaring contrast between Trump- and Biden-era governance styles. Expect Carolla’s signature candor, some jokes at past and present officials’ expense, and Duffy’s inside perspective on why California’s progressive dreams keep colliding with stubborn realities. The episode also features spirited banter with Alicia Krause and detours into pop culture, politics, and the state of American discourse.
"We need to get rid of the fucking programs because you cannot police this many programs... The waste and fraud is going to be baked into every program because it’s human nature." (Adam, 06:12)
"These same people have no idea who Scott Adams is ... They don’t understand that these people are intellectuals, thoughtful and thought-provoking, God-fearing, family-oriented... But the dumb shit at People Magazine is never gonna look into their body of work ever." (Adam, 18:02)
“All that rage that I have felt towards men is coming out.” (Clip of anti-ICE protester, 48:06)
"For a decade ... leftist people like Joy Reid, Joy Behar... have been telling white women, ‘you’re part of the problem because you haven't spoken up; now it's your time ... we need white women as allies.’” (Alicia, 45:52)
“It got weird and it got too digital and sort of gravity. There’s no gravity anymore.” (Adam, 51:24)
“Trump loves to perform. Super funny for a president, but not necessarily super funny for a comedian. But everyone’s gonna laugh super hard because you don’t expect a principal or president… to be funny.” (Adam, 37:55)
Starts: 60:02
“Probably number one, two and three, maybe even four is modernizing, fixing our air traffic control system... Our radar dates back to the — I think our newest model is from 1983. ... I need like $31.5 billion. Congress gave me $12.5 billion.” (Sean Duffy, 61:17)
“An autonomous self-driving car would know that... you don’t have to widen the freeways or build a second story on the 405.” (Adam, 64:46)
"You’re going to be able to put cars closer together and move them more systematically... but we’re not there yet." (Sean Duffy, 66:28)
“I never heard a lot of brass tacks talk... all Trump talks like a commercial builder.” (Adam, 71:18) “That is completely accurate... We’re going to build fast. ... The time it would take for compliance [on federal projects] or the cost increases this put on the system... means we’re trillions of dollars short in building out our infrastructure.” (Sean Duffy, 71:48)
“In California, we want a bullet train and we decide to build a bullet train. Now... we have a bullet train that goes from Bakersfield to Merced. If people listening don’t know where that is, I don’t blame you.” (Adam, 75:10)
“Over 15 years, they’ve spent a little over $15 billion. Not one high speed rail track was laid.” (Sean Duffy, 76:59)
“Gavin Newsom said... we’re okay with drivers not being able to speak the language. ... There’s safety reasons behind why we do it. So Gavin said, no, I’m not going to do that. We pulled $40 billion from him.” (Sean Duffy, 84:06)
"It’s about nuts and bolts, and putting points on the board.” (Sean Duffy, 95:53)
Adam Carolla:
“Liberals don’t build. They seem to destroy things... They’re supposed to be the party of government—but could not be further from the truth.” (76:26)
Sean Duffy:
“We’re not going to fund a train that will never be built... $15 billion spent, not one high-speed rail track laid.” (77:12)
Adam Carolla:
“California has a network of freeway electronic signs... All ours say is click it or ticket... If you just put me in charge of those signs, I could really clean this up quickly.” (93:52, 94:09)
Sean Duffy:
“If California can come up with another $100 billion... they can do it, but the federal taxpayer is not going to fund this project.” (80:18)
Adam Carolla:
“We could pass tons of information on... There is no attempt at it. It’s never been done.” (93:52)
| Timestamp | Segment | |--------------|-----------------------------------------------| | 03:00–13:00 | Societal rants, poverty, personal resilience | | 17:44–28:28 | Media bias, Scott Adams, outrage cycles | | 31:44–39:08 | Trump, public decorum, laughing at presidents | | 45:25–54:06 | Rage culture, women’s roles, psychological roots| | 60:02 | Interview with Secretary Sean Duffy Begins | | 73:47 | Bullet train/California infrastructure deep dive| | 83:39 | Trucker licenses, California’s defiance | | 91:45 | Carolla’s freeway-sign obsession | | 94:42 | Cabinet cohesion & Trump 2.0 goals |
This episode delivers an insider’s critique of California’s transportation policies, shines a light on the hidden dangers of unchecked licensing for truckers, and roasts the failures of progressive pipe dreams like the bullet train. Secretary Duffy and Adam Carolla—both seasoned in entertainment and politics—find common ground in their no-nonsense, results-first approach, with Duffy detailing hard policy and Carolla lampooning the impracticality of purely idealistic politics. The conversation underscores the difference between performance and accomplishment in government, and why the divide is more important than ever for ordinary Americans stuck in traffic—or stuck with the consequences.
Perfect for:
Fans of policy deep-dives with punchlines, critics of California governance, and anyone wanting a behind-the-scenes look at how DC and LA priorities collide.