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Yeah, Kyle Dunigan over there. Yeah. So much to get into with Kyle Dunigan. First thoughts? Thoughts about pepperoni. I feel like sometimes I feel like life is just sort of one big trick that's being played on me. Why? Why? How so? It's like I don't really. I live in California, and I don't really think Gavin Newsom exists. I think he was constructed to me off. It's not even like he's some politician where I go, well, he has certain points, but other things we disagree on. It's like, I literally think he just wakes up in the morning and goes, what would off Adam Carolla the most? That's what I'm. That's what I'm gonna talk about. Everything he does is just to make me angry. And it's all shit I 100% disagree with, with no common ground. And he is the man who governs me. And then I turn on the radio and I hear Maneater and abracadabra, and I just start getting violent. Like, what is this? Why are we doing this? And then I realized that I do not enjoy pepperoni as a topping on pizzas. I do not dislike it, but I do not enjoy it. I have many other toppings I would prefer. Everywhere I go, it's pepperoni all the time. And I feel like I'm being mocked by the folks who make the pizzas as well. First off. Well, yeah, I mean, you said a lot there. I said a lot. There's a lot for you to unpack. I was up to you up till pepperoni, but we'll talk about that in a second. What did Gavin do today that was. Or recently that was upsetting you specifically? Is there something. He announced that whatever Trump was going to try, he was just going to fight against whatever Trump was going to try to implement in California. I don't know exactly what that means. But I guess it means that Trump, who I would actually enjoy some of his policies, can't touch me since I'm still governed by Gavin Newsom here in California. So the election really didn't mean anything to me because I still have Gavin Newsom as my Lord and savior and I have not checked of what he did. Perhaps starting a fourth toy aisle at big box stores for the transgendered transnational transsexuals. I don't know, whatever it is, he just wakes up and goes, how could I off Adam Carolla. Now look, I'm not here to battle with you over pepperoni. I consider your friend Kyle. Yeah. And I mean, I can let. I'm not going to die on that hill. But what is it about pepperoni? If you give some story about pepperoni? My theory is every child life begins with children's parties where they order five cheese pizzas and five pepperoni pizzas. And that's where the indoctrination begins. That's where it begins. And then you take that a subject I've been really thinking about a lot. And I see it with movies. I see it with young people who see really shitty comedies when they're 13 and now they're 37 and they still think those movies are funny. But it's just a vestige. It happens with music, it happens with food, it happens with art. You know, TV shows, comedies, they're really not that good. Pepperoni is just a part of your 8 year old past that you've brought into your adulthood. Not saying that pepperoni is bad. I'm saying there's sausage and onion, there's peppers, you know, there's olive, there's mushroom. There's a little more nuanced, possibly sophisticated toppings than the super salty pepperoni. But I'm not passing judgment. I can say that when I was watching America, As America gets dumber, their obsession with pepperoni grows larger. It correlated somehow. Yes, there's a direct correlation. When I was young, we just had pizza commercials and they would show pizza and some would have pepperoni on it, but we weren't being beaten upon the head with the pepperoni. I saw one on the football game the other night. It was Marco's triple pepperoni. There is no such thing as just a shitload of pepperoni anymore. They figured out a way. Pepperoni is round. And even if you touch the pepperoni or even if you go concentric circle with pepperoni, there's still going to be some open real estate. That's not Going to be covered with pepperoni. So look at this commercial, Kyle. Okay, but wait. Another soso pizza from Soso's Pizza. But wait, there's Marco. Our new triple pepperoni magnifico pizza is stacked with classic crispy cupped and new bold shredded pepperoni. Shredded triple the flavor figured out to get it clean. How much pepperoni can you disperse on a 14 by 14 inch surface? The answer is it's limitless. Now, that's a lot. Also, pepperoni is super salty, so it ends up just tasting like a salt lick. But that's their thing on pepperoni. They're going right past double pepperoni. They're going to triple pepperoni. And they figured out a technology to get the pepperoni between the pepperoni. So you can have all pepperoni all the time. I. Now that you're saying this, I do disagree. I definitely. I'm being questioning myself, but I do think I like pepperoni. But now that you say I don't ever. You never see pepperoni anywhere else, which is a defense of your argument. If it's so good, why is it. It's nowhere else, really? This is what I'm saying about, like, fiesta mix or whatever they serve you in the air. If I can't get it on the ground, how good is it? Right everywhere. How good can the snack be if it is not distributed on the ground? Because on the ground, now it's got to go up against Doritos and funnels and competition. Nilla wafers. It's got competition in a vending machine. Take any snack you get on a southwest flight, like the straight, stale pretzels, Put them in the vending machine of life with the Snickers bars and the Doritos and the Pringles. No sale, Zero sale. And I say same. If pepperoni is so great, where else is it, bitch? When you go to your therapist, do you spend like a half hour on pepperoni? And, like, what happens in there now? I'll do prosciutto sometimes and other Italian meats. Let me just give him $500 to cured ham. I'll do prosciutto. Sometimes I'll dip into pepperoni, but yeah, there's all kinds. Last week, Adam, you were talking about pepperoni. That's what he starts. Yeah, well, this year, I pardon the pun, but I have a beef with black forest ham. So are we out of time? Okay. All right. So prosciutto. Not a fan of prosciutto. I don't know who likes that. Oh, come on, paisan. What the Hell, I know I'm Italian. I'm a half Italian, but I don't. I don't get that at all. All right, look, let's not even I liked you. Let's just keep going. So then I'm looking at this commercial where they're putting triple pepperoni on top of the pizza. And then the next commercial is Shackaroni. Shaquille Oneals got pizza with pepperoni, too. He has another endorsement deal. Oh, could you imagine how rich he'd be if he was white? Are you ready? Give me that ooey, gooey, crispy, crunchy, mouth watering. Give me that boaty, fody pepperoni, extra large flour. It's just cheesy sauce. It's bottomless pepperoni. Papa John's. Okay, all right, all right, now, now. Okay, here's all I'm saying. Is pepperoni free? Because I feel like we have some sort of strategic surplus of pepperoni that we can just never go through. It's like that pizza was $9.99. Yes. And then we added 31 pounds of pepperoni. Right. What's the price now? 9.99. How does the pepperoni math work? How does a plain cheese pizza cost? $9. And one with 31 pounds of pepperoni is 9. 89. Yeah. In a world where you go to fucking Subway and the sandwich is $17. Now, why is pepperoni free? I don't know how your brain works, but I never thought of that. But you're right. It seems like a lot of pepperoni, and the price should go up. And you should bring this up at the therapist at your next session. I don't know how your brain works usually ends badly, but we actually went to a more flattering space. Thank you, Kyle. No. I wonder why no one gives Shaq shit for selling out in every way. No one gives him shit because he's big. Or are they, Paul? So they don't. And they're scared of him. Imagine how little shit he'd get if he was white. I. Wow. Zero. Shit. Look, once you look, there is a. There is a club, and it's what I like to call the Snoop Dogg Pot club, which is once you. If Snoop Dogg came into your home and didn't light a joint up in the middle of your living room, you would be disappointed. Right? Yeah. And if I or Kyle Dunnigan lit up a doobie in your living room, you would be politely asked to go out to the porch. Yeah. Right. Right. So is pot good? Is it bad? Is smoke good? Is smoke bad? No. It's what this guy does and what he's. It's like, you know, if Don Rickles didn't insult you, you'd feel bad. So if Shaq didn't endorse everything, it would be upsetting to you. Is there a chance. Yes. Yes, I'd be upset. There's just. No. You know, his brand just isn't. It's bottomless. He can just keep pushing anything. All right, so I wouldn't hire him because I would think the audience would be confused. Like, oh, is this the home security thing, or is he promoting the pizza? Just. How about the cruise line? The cruise line? Well, no. What else does he do? Kyle, you bring up a valid point, which is, I don't know if it happens anymore. You probably know better than I. But back in the day, like, in the 80s and 90s, character actors would get hot, and you'd see him pop up on this sitcom. Then he played the guy on that sitcom. Then he got the job as the limo driver on Seinfeld. And the next week, he's on Just Shoot Me playing the photographer. And you're like, does that sort of fly in the face of acting? Where you go, isn't that guy. That's Elaine's boyfriend. Why is he on. He's playing the gay guy on Just Shoot Me Now. Look at. Yeah, he's got heat. He's got. You see that with commercial actresses. Like, sometimes you'll see a dude or chick. It used to be this way. You'd see the same person pop up in three different commercials, and you're like, yeah, why are they doing this? You're playing a housewife, Then you're playing a grieving widow. Then you're playing a single mom. Like, yeah, yeah, right. I wouldn't use Shaq because I would be confused that you would be confused that it was one of his other products. What if he did one commercial with all of them? Like, he brought a pizza to the home security place on the crew, and they go to cruise something. I wonder if. Oh, I know. There's nothing he won't endorse, but if he endorsed the ice, Even outer the zamboni, and then there'd be the Shackaroni Zamboni, and it would be fucking awesome. What would it sound like if Shakaroni had been bony? Go jump on a sackboni. I don't do it at jack. That's something like that, right? All right, now, you didn't think I could get more animated about pizza toppings and pepperoni? I. You Know, I. I respect your passion. I. I like it. I think it's good for radio. I think you have to have an opinion, and you have strong opinions, and that's good. All right, well, I'm going to continue down that path then. Okay. I. Then pizza was ordered for this establishment, for reasons unclear to me, but pizza was ordered, and there was different types of pizzas. Now, I did the dry bar set in Provo, Utah, where pizza was ordered again. And the way pizza is ordered wherever I'm from, everyone wants a pepperoni, and then I want a sausage and onion. Now, there's no such thing as other adults going, oh, yeah, I'd prefer the sausage and onion as well. Always has to be three people that want pepperoni in the room with me. But that's my lot in life. You know, I'm the same thing. I do. I do sausage and onions. I'm all alone with that. Go ahead. I'm with you. You and I gotta start hanging out more. Get a pizza. It's. It's always heartbreaking to me because I do 20 minutes on how only stupid people and kids like pepperoni. And then at some point, the person goes, so what's everyone want on their pizza? And the four people I gave that speech to go, we want pepperoni. And then I go, I want sausage and onion. And then what arrives is a pepperoni pizza that is literally covered with every square inch with pepperoni. And then a very sad sausage and onion offering a couple of lonely pieces of sausage and a smattering of onion. And I'm like, why? Why? We have a picture. We ordered it here. We just took a picture of it. We took multiple. I pulled a slice of sausage and onion. It was not modified. It was not tamp. It was not anything. I just pulled it out and set it on top of the pizza box. And I said, joe, you're Italian. Take a picture of this. Now kind of zoom in on it a little. But it has one small piece of sausage the size of a small grape in the upper left hand corner, and then a smallish piece of onion in the middle of it, and a very small what looks like piece of onion, half quarter onion at the bottom. I ordered sausage and onion. Why can't I have sausage and onion? Okay, that's all they gave you. That's all you ever get. You never get a bunch of fucking. By the way, Kyle, sausage. Pardon me. Onion is free. Onion is essentially free, is it not? You go to the Dodger game, buy yourself a hot dog, they have a hopper with onions cut up in it. You just turn the handle and you can have as much onion as you want. Like, there's. Nobody says, limit yourself to two turns of onion, please. You could walk up there with a pillowcase, fill it with onions at Dodger Stadium, throw it over your shoulder and walk out. And security wouldn't stop you. Like, onion is free. So I ordered sausage and onion. Why don't you just put it. Just put onion on it. It's a topping I ordered. I have an answer. I finally blew the lid off this. I finally did. Now I'll show you the picture of the sauce of. Pardon me. Of the pepperoni pizza as well. Always dutiful with the pepperoni. Always careful with the pepperoni. Never a slice missed with the pepperoni. Now. Yes, Very well. Even we're looking at a picture of thin crust pepperoni. Now, this was thin crust sausage. There's an average of 4 and a half wheels of pepperoni on every single slice, right? Yeah. Yes. All right. And then we get to the picture of the sausage and onion, which is how I like it, and we consume it a little a smattering. Okay. But also, where's the onion? Why not? It's free. Why not just load it up, throw it on? No. Right. This is what I would call a wisp of onion on each piece. Yes. Maybe one dollop of onion. Yes. You could tell that peaches sucks, by the way. I don't mean to be a New York snob, but you could tell that pizza's gross. It is. But all I'm saying is, like, the person who ordered pepperoni, I too ordered a topping. Could you perhaps put my topping on my pizza? Not just the pepperoni, by the way. They never miss with the pepperoni. They miss with the sausage and onion. And onion is free, so at least put the onion on. All right. Now, you're not asking for special treatment. You want to be equally treated equally with your topic. I got you. Yes. I want equality, quality, okay? And equity. Kamal Harris explained it well. Some people start off life with a lot of toppings on their pizza. Other people start off life with almost no toppings on their pizza. The people that have toppings who start off live with a lot of toppings need to take some of their toppings off and give it to the people who have less toppings on their pizza. Because no matter how hard the low topping people work will still never climb up to the heights of the full people. You need to be unburdened by what toppings have been. Why toppings have been. That's right. Yeah. All right, so I figured it out. Kyle. Yeah. Yeah, I'm really satisfied with this answer. Okay. Do you want me to judge it or. I just want me to agree with you. No. To be honest or disagree? Okay. How dare you even suggest that. I would suggest that you agree with me just for the sake of agreeing with me. Right. And I hope you feel comfortable enough to have an honest and open dialogue about topics. Okay, I'll be honest. Go ahead. So I've been screaming for a long time, why the pepperoni? Why the meticulous coverage with the pepperoni? And why the haphazard coverage for my sausage and onion? The pepperoni looks like it was put there using a satellite GPS system and a laser guide. Like a transit. When you see the road crews shooting elevations by the side of the road, like laid out on a grid, like each piece looks like it was hand placed and covered. That really the only thing that ever comes close to the commercial pizza is the pepperoni. You couldn't use my sausage and onion pizza on a Domino's commercial. Be the worst commercial ever. But the pepperoni looks like the one they use in the commercial. Covered stem. To start my coverage on my sausage and onion, looks like the guy took a handful of sausage and onion in the same hand, stepped eight feet away from my pizza pie and threw it over his shoulder like a bride throwing a bouquet. And the ceiling fan was on high and some of it found its way to the pizza. That's what my coverage looks like? Yeah. Wait, what's your theory? Like a bridal bouquet? No. That's your theory? No, that's not my theory. That's essential. It looks like one hand of sausage and onion, eight foot steps and an over the shoulder toss in the general direction of the pizza. That's exactly how much covering I got of what I ordered versus you with your micrometer. Did they spin him first before he tossed over the shoulder? Okay, what my pizza coverage looks like is a guy chugged a beer, put his forehead down on a baseball bat at home plate, spun around three times, and then was handed a bridal bouquet. That had some pepper? No, that had some sausage and onion. And he threw it over his shoulder in the general direction. Yeah. Does he have one hook hand? One? Yes, that's right. He has a prosthetic hand. He chugs a beer. Right. He puts his head down on a baseball bat, does three spins around home plate, then with his hook hand, he throws a hook full of sausage and onion in the general direction over his shoulder, like a bridal bouquet, is being tossed by a bride to the brides, to the grooms, or to the best maids of honor while a ceiling fan is on high. During an earthquake. During an earthquake. Yes. That is the coverage that I get versus the meticulous placement of the pepperoni. Now the theory. Are you ready? Yes. Okay. Yes. I think we're doing 40 minutes on pepperoni. Okay. Only. All right. The people who love pepperoni, I say, love pepperoni. I don't mind. I will eat a slice of pepperoni pizza. If you get me a cheese pizza and a pepperoni pizza, I will have a slice of cheese and a slice of pepperoni. Not a snap. Okay? Okay. Dumb people and kids love pepperoni. Smart people are okay with it, but they realize there's mushroom, there's olive. There are many other things you can put on a pizza. It's for dumb people and kids. Who is making the pizzas in the back of a Domino's in North Hollywood on a Tuesday? And the answer is a dumb 17 year old. Ah. And that guy loves pepperoni and has reverence for it. And when somebody orders a pepperoni pizza, he thinks he's picturing himself on the receiving end of that pepperoni, saying, you know what, man? This genius ordered a pepperoni and pepperoni they shall have. Then my order comes in for sausage and onion, and they're like some old racist fucking wants sausage and onion. Yeah, okay. But they can't love it. They can't love it. They should have ordered pepperoni. And all of a sudden, that's where the haphazard throw of it. Because they're not invested in my sausage and onion. That idiot. If that. I guarantee if that 17 and a half year old who works at Domino's went home and ordered. If his pizza order was sausage and onion, he would be much more meticulous about my sausage and onion. But his order is pepperoni, and that's why he cares. Okay, Your theory is wrong. Oh, let me. Let me crystallize it this way. If you had a long sausage and you cut the sausage like they cut pepperoni in nice circles, I would say he would deal it like a deck of cards out nicely on the pizza. It's the. It's the big round clumps and the onions, like, all over the place. They don't know how to handle it. But why shouldn't every third sausage and onion pizza I order have too much sausage and onion? If they can't distribute it or too much in one place or something, it's sparse all the way through. Like, it is a. It's a pizza with onion is one of the toppings. And you're hard pressed to find onion on it. Like somebody used tweezers and threw a couple of pieces of onion on that thing. It would be concentrated in one area or one time too much or not enough. Would you not like it if it was shaped like a pepperoni? If the sauce. Because they do that sometimes, like when you order, like a meatball. But maybe I love sausage. That's round sausage, not the crumbled sausage. But they don't have that. I'm just saying why the meticulous placement of the pepperoni and the abundance. I get the lack of abundance for everything where I go, look, the profit margins are slim. This shit ain't free. They're dialing it back. But pepperoni, always abundant. Sausage and onion, which to my taste or my knowledge, doesn't cost anymore. Nothing. And they just charge you for two toppings. I don't even know why I'm getting charged for onions on that pizza. There's no. Dawson, you saw the pizza. Yes. Is there 11 cents worth of onion on that pizza? There's almost zero onions on that. The onions. I don't understand the sausage. I will say this, especially when it comes to franchised chain pizza restaurants, they deal with things by weight a lot of the time, and they will put a certain amount of weight of sausage, and it's going to be less sausage than pepperoni. But somebody. But somebody decided. The way somebody decided at the beginning. Yes. That they're making a pizza with not enough sausage. Yeah. But that's what they've established, and that's what the. Well, listen, Kyle, I'm getting tired of all this pepperoni talk. All right, all right. I was going to keep talking about it. All right, listen, I don't want to. I don't. It's your show, man. I'm just. I'm just along for the ride. All right, well, you love comedy. You're comedy fans. That's why you're listening to this podcast. And the funniest comedians in the world are on tour right now, and you can get tickets to see them live near you. So they're traveling, and you're bringing the mountain to Mohammed. They're coming to your town. 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The Venezuelan 26 year old guy who murdered Lake and Riley, she was just some like nursing student and she was just jogging and he just jumped on her and blunt force trauma and killed her and strangled her. Right. And it became a big political football kind of thing. But a couple things. There's murder, you know, there's a couple kinds of murder. There's, you know, there's like Menendez murder. Like, well, his dad molested him for 12 years and his mom stood by and watched. And now I'm gonna murder dad, right? Yeah. And then there's like, oh, I'm poisoning my husband because I want to collect his insurance. Like there's that kind of murder, right? Yeah. But then there's murder where it's like, what's that person doing jogging? And you just murder them. Like that's a weird murder, right? Yeah. I don't know this case well. So was he stalking her at all or. Just look it up. But he was a Venezuelan migrant. Guy was like 26. I don't think he was stalking her. She was just jogging in the park in the morning before nursing school and he just murdered her. Which that's a weird kind of thing for me. She was killed while she was jogging at the University of Georgia in Athens. Oh, man. Well, that we got. But did they. Yeah, I got the part where she was jogging. She's murdered everyone. But did they have a previous relationship? Was he stalking her? That's the whole point. I think he just killed her. Rape. I mean, was he trying to get some action? Was it like a. Or just murder? He just killed her. I feel like he's just going to meet up with some friends to play Ultimate Frisbee and then all of a sudden he just saw someone jogging and went, oh, well, hold up. I need to kill her. Which sounds insane, but it Chandra Levy. That happened, too. Unless it's someone who's, like, schizophrenic or they have something in their mind that's happening. Do we know anything about the guy? He's Venezuelan and he's not supposed to be in this country, but we released him and now they're dead. Oh, good. So I have a couple of things. First off, I want to say to any of my progressive listeners, the argument is always, well, you know, more Americans actually kill Americans than migrants. And I'm like, that may be true, but still, if he wasn't in the country, do you think another American would have murdered her? Or might she be alive? Right. We're not comparing them to percentage of murder. We're just saying sometimes people come in this country and they kill people. And it'd be good if they weren't in the country. That's what I'm saying. But he killed her. And so accused of attempted rape and of spying on women in the apartment, I guess, in the complex, but where she lives. So there's something. But I don't know how much of it was with her or just a general creepiness. But Anyway, the guy's 26 and he's from Venezuela. Now, here's the deal. He's gonna get life in prison without parole, Right? Which means this guy who snuck into this country and then killed our nursing student, you and I are gonna have to pay 50 grand a year for the next 50 years while this guy hangs out and beats off. No, I don't like it. You're not doing it. You're out. I'm out. Kyle's out. Dunnigan's out. You're not going to fund this? No. You're going to divest. Is there any way I can not fund that? No, I don't think so. I think we're all in for a taste. But here's what I'm saying. Can we do this? Don't you think if you do this, you should get the death penalty? Just because I don't want to pay for your ass for the next 50 years? Yeah, I absolutely would pull the lever on that guy. And also, you're taking up a prison cell where we could have one of our black youth in there. Now, you know what I mean? You're using up space. You're taking jobs away from black men, these migrants. That's what they do. So he is 26 and appears to be in perfect health. Now, the thing about going to prison is you don't really take up smoking and drinking. And you don't get in car crashes. You know what I mean? This kid's, this kid over under on him is 50 years. The police chief is saying it's a crime of opportunity. So no stalking, no prior relationship. That makes you the most dangerous person on the planet. Yeah, and you need to be killed because I don't want to pay for you. Yes, I totally agree. What was it rape or. No, he just wanted to murder. No, I, I didn't keep just murdering. And then he came charged with attempted attempted rape, I believe and. All right, here's what I'll agree on. We agree on this Kyle Dunigan. Yes, I agree. Hold on, I checked. Venezuela does not have the death penalty. Oh. But if you are from a country that does have the death penalty and you kill one of our nursing students, we get to give you the death penalty because you're from that country and your grandfathered in. Yeah, okay. I agree with that. Yeah. All right. Moving, moving forward. Also, I know you're pretty low self esteem. I like to think of myself that way as well. I do know that. I just sniff that out. It took a lot of deductive reasoning. Okay. Don't you feel like it's really presumptuous, like if I snuck into Venezuela, if I just snuck into Venezuela, I would mind my p's and Q's, right? I feel like it'd be so presumptuous and so nervy of me to go like, I'm in Venezuela, oh, there's that Venezuelan woman jogging. I should kill her. I'd be like, this isn't even your fucking country, bro. You're not even supposed to be here. Go find some aunt or uncle and live in their basement quietly. Like it's, it's very, it's a very high self esteem movement. Like if you're from this country, like if you're from the junior college down the street from the nursing school and you want to kill one of your own, I disagree with you, but it doesn't strike me as wildly presumptuous. You know what I mean? He wanted to go to jail and get free food and board. I mean, is that possible? So he's like, I don't care if I go to jail. It's great. I don't, I don't know. I mean, it makes sense that I don't want to sound like Trump here. Trump, so terrific. But they're not sending their best and their brightest. Do you know what I mean? Because he wasn't an attorney or an orthodontist in Venezuela. That's why he walked here. Right. So I think there's some of that, you know. Yeah. And maybe mental illness. Yes. Yeah. But it does feel very nervy, doesn't it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Imagine some murder in any country you have to have. But let's picture, let's picture 25 year old Kyle Dunigan sneaking into Venezuela. Okay. And you're like at the park and you're like, I'm really not supposed to be here, but ooh, look at that Venezuelan lady jogging opportunities of murder. Don't you feel like change of murder came up? Yeah. Don't you feel like young Kyle Dunnigan's self esteem would be too low? Yeah, no, I never would have made it to Venezuela. I wouldn't even be there. Yeah, but if you were, you'd probably be trying to fly under the radar. Yeah, I wouldn't even try to talk to her, let alone murder her. Does it take more courage to murder a woman or to go up and talk to her and ask her out on a date? There's an interesting. Wow, these are vexing questions. All right, I have another one for you. All right, this split the room. We're going to need Byron for this one. Byron's a young spark plug and a go getter. The other day, I believe the topic of the Merrimac and the Monitor, the ironclad warships from the Civil War, came up. Byron was not familiar with those terms. The two vessels. You are correct, sir. So. And I don't look at this as your fault. I blame the system. Byron, you know, fell through the crack, so to speak, because I think they say I passed with a 2.0 GPA. 2.0? Well, I had a 1 7, so. All right, we're talking about the Merry Mac. No, we're not talking about the Merry Mac or the Monitor. Oh, I for some reason spat out and Byron, do not answer this out loud. I'll let you think on it for a second. I spat out out loud. I queried in front of the room, would Byron know the name Benedict Arnold? Oh, he should. Well, that's extra pressure. I mean, that's like a saying then. Well, now you're gonna have to, you know, I don't need a zodiac sign, but I would need a brief, you know, description of that name. Was he the guy that tried to create a bunch of fake bills back when we were first starting to try, like when we were first trying to be a country? He created a bunch of fake bills to undermine the currency and things like that. Maybe a trader of the country. I know that, but. Oh, you know, it's trader to the country. All right, that's a straw. Chalk one up for Joe and I think Dawson, too. Right. Traitor to the country. Well, now, just trader in general. Trader in general. All right, that's good. But then Joe and I find this insulting. He said that he would think you wouldn't know Paul Revere, but you would know Benedict Arnold. And I said I had it the other way. I said, no, Benedict Arnold, but yes Paul Revere. But I think you're gonna go two for two here, Byron. Yeah, I've heard the Beastie Boys song. I know Paul Revere. Yeah, yeah. All right, all right. Yeah, the British are coming. The British are coming. All right, There you go. All right, two for two. Thank you. Do you know why they were throwing tea in the. In the Boston Harbor? Does he know why? Because it sucks. Mm. Okay. No, you're incorrect. Because fuck the British. Right? Yeah, but why? Taxation without representation. There you go. See, Byron runs a little deeper, Einstein, than we thought. All right, I brought some clips along that I thought President Trump, newly minted President Trump, might be able to react to. Okay. Which is, you don't have my faces, unfortunately. That's all right. We don't need your faces. I look a lot like him anyway. I brought a clip from the View. Okay. And we have a couple. See these gaggle of whores. Let's hear what they have to say so you can react. And finally, we talk a lot about these different demographics and these assumptions of where they're gonna go. Latinos in Texas, a district that's 97% Latino, went 75 percentage points for Donald Trump. Why? Misogyny? No, it's on the border. The border crisis is on their doorstep, and they were begging people to care about it for years. We need to take some lessons. That's what that was. Knock, knock. Who's there? Oh, my gosh. It's Whoopi. Yeah. Trump. Mr. Trump. President Trump. Whoopi Goldberg. Do you know what she's talking about with the. Knock, knock? Who's there? It's Whoopi. I don't get it at all. What is. What is that? I don't know. I think the Ozempic has finally reached her brain. That's kicking in. She's taking the Ozempic. I didn't know that. She's still a little overweight to me, to be honest. Well, yeah, but she was a real porker a few years ago. She was a big cow. She was a very big woman. Yeah. Who watches that show? A lot of over talking. A lot of over talking, right? Yeah, not much. How much context? No, I think women, I think the voice in their head is pretty loud and that's what causes the over talking. Yeah. You know, the, the cranium in a woman is much smaller than the male cranium, so they can't fit as many braids. This is science. Oh, you're saying we have more. Right. They can't fit as much braids in that cradium. Oh, so. So let me say this. When you go to certain neighborhoods, like outside of Vegas, you'll see a garage with a real high roof because it has RV parking in the garage, right? Yeah, there's no RV parking. So you're saying with the ladies you can't get an RV in there? No, it's. It's like a Subaru at best. Uh huh. Yeah. Maybe a Justy, maybe just the Vespa. But don't put on your helmet. Oh, you hit your head. Yeah. So women have a smaller cranium and it can accommodate the large brain that you have. That's right. And then it's also, it's taken up. Okay. With a lot of nagging. There's a nagging area and a lot of shopping in the shoes. The shoes, yeah. Because the one that Sunny Hostin was talking about sexism and she's the sort of half. She's black on one day, she's Latina on another day. She's proud every day. But she's explaining that the reason Hispanic men voted for you is because they're, they're sexist and they're xenophobic or something. I don't, they don't like women. Right. They have to, they have to do this. They have to come up with an excuse. It's always the guy's fault. Yeah, yeah. And then there's another clip. I think it's Joy Reid. I believe it is. Somebody should be normal name moving toward that. Whoopi and Joy. No, I know there's. Where's the Susans? What is this? What kind of show is this? I know there's no, there's nobody who has a regular name anymore. Betty. Is there a Betty on that stupid show? There's no Betty. Look at this. TRUMP. 50, 50 points. What a beautiful. Look at that beautiful picture right there. Now I think Joy Reed is upset. She's on msnbc. You can respond to this. Black voters came through for Kamala Harris. White women voters did not. That is what it appears happened in that state. Is that if you can't flip enough white women, and we've talked about this on this set numerous times, is that you have a state where you've got a six week abortion or 12 week abortion. I think there's might be 12 weeks. But it's a state where women lost their reproductive rights, where there was a very heavy push to get women to focus on not putting in place, you know, re electing, putting back into the White House the person who was responsible for taking those rights away and restoring them. But that message obviously was not enough to get enough white women to vote for Vice President Harris, a fellow woman. This will be the second opportunity that white women in this country have to change the way that they interact with the patriarchy. The patriarchy. Can I ask you a question? She said didn't get enough, and I think she said enough white women to vote for the women. I mean, you can play back the last 30 seconds. She says something. Sorry, sorry, Mr. Trump. We'll hear it. We'll just hear the last 30 seconds here. I'll plug my ears. Plug your ears. But it's a state where women lost their reproductive rights, where there was a very heavy push to get women to focus on not putting in place, you know, re electing, putting back into the White House the person who was responsible for taking those rights away and restoring them. But that message obviously was not enough to get enough white women to vote for Vice President Harris, a fellow woman. This will be the second opportunity that white women in this country have to change the way that they interact with the patriarchy. All right, so let me tell you something. Adam, let me tell you something real quick here. You know, I love all races. I love them. Trump loves them all. But my favorite's got to be the whites. It's got to be by a hair. Yeah, yeah, it's close. It's a close race. It's real close. I love the ball. But the whites really came through for Trump this time. Yeah, she, she's blaming white women for saying she's not voting for a fellow woman. But, but in the title, white woman, the first word is white. You're white. Kamala Harris isn't white. I'm using her argument is they listen. Race hustler, Joy. Race hustler. You demand that everyone vote their race, don't you? You want Hispanics to vote for Hispanics. You want blacks to vote for blacks. So why can't whites vote for whites? Those fellow women. But how about fellow whites? He was voting. She was voting her race. Yes, Voting her race. Cannot blame white women because you can't say the title white women without first saying the word white. And last I checked, you're white, Trump. That's right. She was voting a race. I'll tell you, I don't know who's watching that terrible show, but it's a total disaster. And the ratings are terrible as well. I think, you know, the ratings in that show. I do love that. Trump's obsession with ratings is so awesome to me. I mean, all he cares about the first time, I think the first time, maybe. Yeah. I think the first time I ever met him, he told me all about ratings. Marriage, Ref. Right, yeah. He just told me about ratings. He was talking about ratings. I've had multiple TV shows and never talked about ratings as much as he talked about ratings. And it wasn't even his show. It was just a show he was going to be on. Right, Right. I don't know. Something to that positive talking seems to work. Worked on me. He slapped me on the back and told me we're going to be number one. Were you? No. Okay. No, I say no. I didn't even check. I just felt good in the moment. Yeah, yeah. And you know what? I didn't want to know. You know what I mean? Like, we're going to build. We're going to build a big, beautiful wall and we're going to get Mexico to pay for it. Good. Now I'm going to bed. And I just wanted to hear that. I just wanted to hear that. And that we're going to be number one on marriage. Ref. Yeah. That's all I wanted to hear. And now I'm going to bed and I didn't want to check the ratings the next day because I'm sure we would have been, you know, 28th in the demo or something, and I didn't want to know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I also had. I don't know, Joe, if you pulled this, but one of my greatest Kyle Dunnigan moments was when we would do Sylvester Stallone trying out for the Best Season salad dressing commercial. Was it good seasons. Best seasons? You had me audition a lot for that. These are all. These are all vestiges of my childhood. Just these weird little fever dreams from my childhood. And I think we had now what always cracked me up, because when I was like eight, I used to see these commercials. Was it best foods, best dressings, best zesty. What was it called, Joe? What's that product called? We'll find it. Anna Maria Albrighetti was the spokesperson for Best Seasons. Four Seasons. Good. Good Seasons. Good Seasons. Good Seasons Salad dressing. And I always liked it because the kids and the whole family seemed to know who Anna Maria Alberghetti was. Although I was 8 and I didn't know who Anna. Ask Byron if he knows who Anna Maria Albrechti is. No, doesn't know that one. Was she famous at all back then or did they just make her famous in that commercial? For that commercial? I. There was a thing they would do in 70s commercials where they made kids recognize old famous people. Like it was a big deal. Because I always remember Phil Rizzuto for the Money Store. Like, Phil rizzuto was like 74 at the time. And there's like a six year old boy. And Phil Rizzuto wasn't even. I remember that he wasn't even wearing his Yankees uniform. He's just wearing a suit. That is Phil Rizzuto. Yeah, like he would know. And so I looked her up. She was an Italian actress, singer, sort of Broadway kind of play, played stuff. But, but, but an 8 year old wouldn't know. It's Tommy Tune. Yeah, wouldn't know. Wouldn't know. I think Shaq also did a Good Seasons commercial. Shaq is overdue for a Good season. All right, I'll play it. We'll play the commercial from 1977 or whenever, whatever the hell it was. Walter, you're drowning that poor salad. I know, but I want a lot of taste. Then try Good Seasons. A little Good Seasons has a lot more taste. Anna Maria Alberghetti, the Good Seasons waiting. Good seasons Italian has 50% more herbs and spices than the leading bottle Italian dress. Hey, Good Seasons does have more herbs and spices. 50% more. That. That's why a Little Good Season has a lot more taste. Now try new Zesty Italian. Zesty Italian. All right, so it was a sack. It was a sack of seasoning. There was a lot of seasoning commercials when I was a kid. There was. There was all kinds of taco seasoning. There was the one that's just Ms. MSG. In the 70s, it was like making cooking easier for women. Was the seventies? Yeah. Bag it all up. Wait, there's Madison Square Garden and nsg. There was. There was. There was one. What was the one that was just ns. What was the one? What. What the hell's the chemical everyone claimed was in China? Msg. Msg. But that's also sodium glutamate. All right, it's also Madison Square Garden. That's. That's what screws. That's what screws msg. People say MSG now. And they. But they. All right. Anyway, the. The point is, is there was all kinds of weird seasoning stuff back then, but this was just a sack that you added to olive oil and water or something. And. But now. How old was that kid? Five years old. It was like. Yeah, probably seven. Anna Maria Al Brigadi. And he said, the season. It's the seasons lady. Like, a kid would be excited that there was a seasons lady there. Yeah. Like, because. Because six year olds are really pumped up about salad that season. That's what I. That's what I've known. So, Sly, all we're going to need. All we're going to need for you is whatever you need, Adam, you just shoot and I will give it to you. All right, Go ahead. We're gonna need you to pretend you're at a picnic table with your parents. Okay. And is it daytime or is it nighttime? Because that's the difference, you know? Yeah, it's daytime because they're having a picnic. Let me. Let me get a pen here. Sir, I would like to. When I act, I have to make a whole, like, scenarios scenario. I know. You do as much writing as you do acting, Sly. Yeah. Maybe even more, you know. Mm. So. So the scene is you're sitting at a picnic table, you're enjoying a picnic with your parents, and the good season lady shows up. Yeah. And her name is Anna Maria Alberghetti. How do you spell that? Anna Maria. A, N, N, A. It's a lot of ends. A lot of ends. It's very. There's so many ends, you know? Yeah. You're not even halfway done. Go ahead. Yeah. M, A, R, I, A. M A, N, N, M A, R, I, A. Anna Maria. Anna Maria. Yep. All right. Last name? Albergeti. A, L, B. Jesus Christ. E, R, G. Yeah. H, E, T, T. I Like all of the letters, you know? Yes. Some twice even. Some twice even. Yeah. You don't see that that much, you know? You know, I mean, Mario and Dready, maybe some. Some of the same letters, you know. All right, so she comes in. She comes in, and your job is to just act, surprise, and say, it's Anna Maria Albergeti, the good seasons lady. All right. It is. How old am I? Seven. All right. Am I. Do I have any sort of dyslexia or Asperger's? It's a pretty short commercial, so if you do, we're not going to dwell on it. All right. Any recent injuries? No, no injuries. No food allergies. All right. Have I ever made love in my life yet? Well, remember, your character's between the ages of 6 and 7, so. Yeah, so has he ever made love yet? Oh, okay, I'm still going to answer. I'm going to go. No, then. All right, all right. Not yet. All right, all right, all right, so I'll cue you when you deliver your line. All right, all right. Family picnic. Eating boring salad. Dad drenches salad in bargain basement. Salad dressing. And Q. Anna Marie Alberghetti and Q line. Dan and Maria Brigitte's. You gotta be kidding me. That's a spaghetti lady. I don't believe it. Dad, you seeing this? Yeah, no, that was good. Okay, let's stop down on that. Yeah, that was. I felt good. You know, a lot of times you can feel in your guts if it weren't good. No, the energy was there. Sly, you deviated from the line a little bit. She's the Good Seasons lady. I think I said that. No, I think you said spaghetti lady. Oh, I said spaghetti lady, all right. And then you pointed at dad and gave a line to him, which is not what in the script. That's improv. Yeah, I know, but this just a 30 second spot. I'll keep it short. All right, maybe we should show. Let's run the spot one more time just to give Sly an idea of what. What his character is going to be doing. Remember, you're the Give me a little shot. See a little boy over there? And she doesn't say spaghetti. This character don't say spaghetti lady. Well, we're not selling spaghetti. Remember? Selling salad dressing here. Spaghetti's got nothing to do with it. All right, well, Obergetti sounds like spaghetti. Yeah, that's where I got confused. Mm. All right, Walter, you're drowning that poor salad. I know, but I want a lot of taste. Then try Good Seasons. A little. Good Seasons has a lot. Anne Maria Alberghettis. I don't believe it. Jesus. Ladies, Good seasons Italian has 50% the good season. So it's Anne Marie Alberghetti, the Good Seasons lady. All right, Good Seasons, let's go. Come on. All right, come on. Take it from the top. Dad pours copious amounts of salad dressing sucks. Dad, I hate to speak. Yeah, hold on. Let's get to your line there, Sly. And I'm coming. Anna Marie Q, Anna Maria. And she steps in and boys, surprise. And he says, oh, my God. Holy shit. I don't. Oh, my God, dad, you seriously smooth. Get a case. I don't believe it. What is she doing? At a picnic. Dad, that makes no sense. No sense. All right, Sly, let's just see if we can get an Anna Maria Alberghetti clean. Let's just see if we can get a clean Anna Maria Al Brigetti. All right, you tell me when. Let's do three. Three. You know, a surprise. Big, medium, and smaller size. Ann Maria Albergeti Surprise. Okay, here we surprised is Anna Maria Gay's. But don't. But Sly. Yeah, okay, this one's on me because I said the word surprise and it was a surprise. Right, but I'm feeding you lines, but not feeding you all of them. All right? Okay, so just say in a surprise tone, it's Anna Maria Albergue. Yeah, Surprise. Tongue. Tone. Tone. So that over directing, in my opinion, I'm just. I don't want to say the word surprise. Yeah, all right, but it is a surprise. Well, it is a surprise, but we will hear that in your voice. All right. That's right, of course. Okay. All right, one more time. All right, you ready? And action. I'm sorry. Action. Hey, hey, who's that? La. I sense there is a lady behind me. I shall turn around and look, you know, to see who the lady is, you know, because it shouldn't be anybody else. It's just my family here, you know? Yeah. Oh, my goodness. I don't believe my ass. He's really the spaghetti lady. I don't believe it. Dad. Dad. Dad. Yeah. Dad. Yeah. No, he's not. All right. That was good. There's a lot of good stuff together. There's a lot of good stuff in there, Sly. Right. We haven't cut it together. I think. I think you can use that and cut it together. We have an edit bay, but we don't have a magic wand. And I need Sly for you. It's just to get three clean. It's Anna Maria Albergeti in a surprise tone. All right, why don't you do the words Emory Abigail in one sibling at a time, and I'll just mimic you then you could cut that together. Does that work? Okay, yeah, I'll try that. Right? You want me to do it? Yeah. Okay. It's Anna Maria albergeti. Well, you did it. Fat. Just do one syllable at a time, and I'll just mimic it. Okay. Eh, eh, eh, eh. Nah. Anna Maria Alberghettis. All right. Yeah, I think we got it. I feel good. I think we need a clean. It's good. It was pretty good, but I think. I think there's a better one in you, Sly. Anna Maria grabs the spaghetti. Anna Maria's. Grab the spaghetti. Anna Maria. Let's break it down. Anna, Anna Maria Maria. Al Brigadis. That's what I said. Al Brigadi. Yeah. Abigail Gettys Abergettis. I think that's right. Now just Al Brigetti. Albergetis Albertis. Let me just spell it for you real quick again, Sly. L, B E R G H E T T I after L. I really checked out that. But I do believe is Alberta Gettys. That is what I do believe. Al Brigitte Albergettis. Alberghettis. Try one where you leave the S off at the end. Abby Getty. Abigail. Okay, well, you know what? Maybe we'll just. I know guys who can do the voice and maybe. Maybe we'll just slug that in. You could use AI as wet. I use AI Also. Kyle Dunnigan is a good friend and I can will use your Anna Maria and then let him do the Gabrielle. That's a good idea, right? So what. But let's just get a couple clean Anna Maria's and then I'll get Anna Maria's. No, no, but no s. Just Anna Maria. Anna Maria. That you go. Anna, Anna Maria Maria. You know, Annie. You know Maria. If you could not snort in between, though, you know. Yeah. You know, I. Yeah, I got my. Broke my nose twice, you know. Yeah. In a fight. Oh, in a fight. Yeah. But I'm just saying, if you cannot snort in between. Anna Maria. Beautiful. That's your take. All right. Is Mayhem here? Oh, okay. All right. Put the sign up. Even though he's not technically a guest, it'll. 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Here's a memorable moment from the Adam Carolla Show's ACE Awards archives. Trump is a cancer on our democracy. He must be rejected by all patriots. That's not even an insult. Cancer's good. Spreads around. Gross. All right. What do you think, Gina? Is it George Takei? Oh, sorry. Oh, geez. Alyssa Milano. I want to hear it one more time. Once in Chinese so I could get the take vibe and once as a chick. I think he's Japanese. Come on, same thing. You know what they sound like? He's Japanese. It's a different color, right? That's why I said Chinese, Chinese, Japanese, dirty knees. Come on, read the tweet. Now for some new memorable moments. Let's get back to the Adam Corolla show. Kyle Dunigan has got comedy dates coming up. It's going to be at the Mothership in Austin. That's Rogan's club. That's going to be December 6th or the 8th. Hey, let me Kyle dunnigan.com put your email where you're going to where you live and I'm coming to a bunch of towns. No spam. Very funny standup comedian. While he does all the voices, he still just does the stand up too, sometimes. I mean, quite a bit of the act and it's very funny on its own. It doesn't use the voices as a crutch. Let me ask you this about the Mothership couple. Good things there. I was there, I don't know, three weeks or a month ago, just kind of dropped in on a Tuesday night. Oh, yeah, the place is full because it's filled with tourists now. And do you need to sell tickets at this place anymore? Because you know when Adam Carolla is going to Magoobie's Joke Hut in Timonium outside of Baltimore. Adam Carolla needs to sell tickets. Otherwise there's not just a group that comes in and hangs out in Timonium outside of Baltimore. And McGoobie's Joe cut in a strip mall. But I walked into the mothership. And the place is packed on a Tuesday night, just like a popular club would be packed, regardless of who was doing the performing. Yeah, I don't need to promote that place at all. It always sells out. Every show. New York. I burn my audience in New York. I have New York shows coming up and it's. I have to promote the hell out of those. And then they also do something which is fantastic, is you sit up in the green room and there's two monitors and they just have whoever's been on stage in the time they've been on stage. Because all anyone wants to know is how much time and how long has the guy been on in front of me. And then is he doing 15 or is he doing 20? Did they lie to him? But they figured out that guy's been on stage and he's been on stage for 11 minutes. And you just go, what's he doing? He's going 15. And then you go, when am I going? You're going after him. I go, all right, I'll start making my way down. You know, it lowers your anxiety on the whole thing. Yes. You just see how much time everyone's doing. And if someone's being a dick and they're up there for 23 minutes and they're supposed to be doing 15, then you'll know that as well. Last time I was in that green room, Ivanka Trump was there and her husband, and they were sniffing the salt, the smell salt. You see that in there? They have little cups of smelling salt. Yes. I did not snort it. I was there with Tony Hinchcliffe and Chris Stefano and Ron. Ron White. I think if I was there a lot. Yeah, yeah, it was fun. Anyway, sorry that. You don't need a plug for that. Do we have. What do we got? We got some news. We got some news. Mayhem here with the news. Costco forced to recall £80,000 of butter for the dumbest possible reason. Wanna care to guess? Care to gambit? Care to wager a gambit on why they recalled £80,000 of butter? I. When food is thrown away, makes me. I go mental. Same. It doesn't matter if it's my food. Whose food doesn't matter. Anyone's food. It's like, don't throw it out. I hate it. I hate it when good food gets thrown out. Yeah, it's good food. And it. I'm going to get. I'm going to guess it was because it was. Something was misspelled on the box. Is my guess close. You're in the range. But the actuality was it was not labeled as containing milk. They asked people to get rid of it. Throw it away. Yeah. I don't understand. Kirkland signature butter. The gold standard for butter. Yeah. 79,200 pounds of butter. They told her get rid of it. And again, this goes in the category of conspiracy for just a wacky news story because what the hell did they do that for? They didn't leave it. And now £80,000 of butter was recalled. Because no one's gonna turn their butter in. That's what I'm saying. It just drums up a little paper and mayhem. Talks about it on the news. That's right. We're talking about the butter. Nothing's better than butter, is there? You just can't improve on it. It makes everything better. Yeah, butter makes everything better. It's really the bacon of butter. It's good on pepperoni. It's good. No, I just mean corn on the cob is fine. Add butter. Ooh la la. Yeah, we've had a real like food theme. It's culinary based theme. I'm hungry. Butter the blowjobs of milk products. I agree. It's good. Everything's better. Everything's better with it. Yeah. Next up in the news, the Washington Post advice on what it takes to immigrate outside the US After Trump's victory. Yeah. They released an entire guide for Americans seeking to immigrate to new country as a growing number of people looking to move out of the country. But don't you feel sorry for these other countries because all we're doing is handing them the cream of the crop of our narcissistic, self entitled douchebags and rich. Like we get their poor. They're tired, they're huddled masses. They're gonna get our super MSNBC watching douchebags like the douchiest of all the fucking. The ones that insist that the border patrol use their pronouns. The ones that use the word Latinx, all the Latinas, all the like Latino studies majors and all the fucking. No good. Zero. Like when you're a country, you go, what do you need? And you go, we need skilled labor. Like we need people in here who can build houses. We need people are in the tech industry, you know, who can do programming or coding. That's not what you're going to get. You're going to get self entitled, know it all, do nothing douchebags with like 4 degrees that don't add up to anything. That's who's gonna flee this country and then go fuck up the other country. And then at some point they're gonna start fucking your country up too. Canada gonna get an influx of man buns. Yes, a lot of man buns. A lot of dudes wearing bracelets. A lot of discussions about like microaggressions and pronouns and the fuck your city up too. I would rather have Venezuelan gang members move into my city than these two. I really would. At least I could spot him, you know. Yeah, I looked into it. Yeah, the, the, they weren't very helpful with their advice either. It was just, you know, basic stuff on that. 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Brick responsibly Beer reported by Crown Report, Chicago, Illinois. Next up in celebrity news, Dwayne Johnson says the controversy over set behavior is bullshit, but admits to peeing in bottles and being late to filming. Yeah, that happens. I like guys who pee in bottles. Yeah, I did. Somebody solved this mystery for me and I think, tell me what you guys think of this. There should be some sort of surtax or retribution tax or something tax that all these Amazon. The Amazon pays and all these couriers pay. All the. So, okay, when I was a kid, because I was a Corolla especially, I never got one thing delivered to my mom or my dad's house ever, ever. From zero to gone. Gone out living in an apartment once every two years. You got like a phone book, I think from the city, but there was no packages dropped off at the house. My parents didn't have credit cards. They didn't have money. What would we have ordered online? You know, if you had money, you could get the Time Life books, you know, like now order that and get the Old west gunslingers. And then the gunslinger series would show up. There was like some Time Life books, some encyclopedias, maybe some like compilation K TEL records or something like that. But there was really nothing that ever showed up to our house in my entire childhood. And then we're now fast forward to. It's like my daughter would go out in the morning and her fucking breakfast would just be sitting there like, oh yeah, they brought Starbucks, brought the stuff over. And then she'd go out that afternoon. It'd be a box of shit she ordered the day before from Amazon. Like it was just box every day, groceries, food boxes showing up. So there are Amazon trucks and there are DHL trucks and all the delivery systems, right? None of these trucks have a bathroom. And in la, no business lets you use their bathroom because there's so many fucking homeless people. And everybody who bought a gas station. Find me a commercial from Murph from Union 76. You remember Murph? Murph Drive commercial, Gas station owners. There was a Union 76 commercial from like, you know, 1975 or whatever they. The reoccurring character was this guy named Murph. He was a red headed like Irish guy, Salt of the earth, Murph. And he would just come out, he'd be like wiping something down. Like, hey, Ms. Johnson, looks like you used a couple pounds in that front right tire. Fifth. I'm Aaron at Murph Will do. You know. And he'd go down and do it and then someone need to use the bathroom. Go right on in, kids. Use the bathroom. You want me to top that oil off, Ms. Johnson? That's what gas station owners used to look like. Now it's super angry foreigners. That's all it is, is Middle Eastern guys who fucking want sharia law. Can't stand us in our ways. And you go in there and you go, could I use the bat? What is no, could I use the bat? Not this, no, no. Like there's no using the bathroom, so. Peeing in bottles. Yeah. All these guys bopping around with all their delivery trucks. There's delivery trucks everywhere. These guys are out on a nine hour shift, they're drinking fucking rock star energy drink all day. Oh yeah, they're gonna. They got a grande coffee between their legs and they got a fucking piss. But they can't do. They don't deliver shit. That's what they order shit with our money, Kyle. They don't deliver it. They use our money to Order it. They sit home ordering shit on the toilet while we're out working and delivering. You understand? What do women do? They sit on the toilet and they spend our money. Oh, man. That's what ladies do. All right, so these guys can't go in and use the steely eyed Middle Eastern guy's bathroom because Murph no longer owns it. They have to piss. So they finish off the brisk tea bottle, the 24 ouncer they've been sucking on all day, and then they fill that thing up. And then they don't want their piss bottle rolling around their truck, so they just chuck it. As they're going up my street to deliver a bunch of shit, my old lady's ordering from the toilet. Okay? And then I'm going for a walk and I got to see the piss bottle rolling everywhere. Now, I don't like big government or over regulation, but could we put some sort of sur tax on piss bottles? Because I spent my whole life in this fucking place. I never saw a piss bottle. The last four years, I've seen piss bottles everywhere. Really? Yes. Yes. All right, do we have Murph? Yeah, they had Murph, I think. Do you guys want to see what society used to look like in this man's Los Angeles? All right, this is union 76. What year is this? Like 77, 78 or something somewhere in there. All right, sorry. This is what gas stations used to be like before. No, cannot have 78, Murph. My engine's missing and my wife won't talk to me. For newlyweds, you're off to a pretty rough start. He said he had the car tuned up. Well, I did. He did. Then why are we here instead of that honeymoon lodge? Somebody probably pulled the spark plug wire. It's an old wedding drink. Turn it off. Okay, Start her up. You saved my marriage. Well, getting people off to a smooth start is what the spirit of 76 is all about. With the spirit. The spirit of 76. So now if they came in, yeah, that guy'd be like, get the fuck out of here. You should have your hands cut off for touching you your wife's vagina. But you're gonna ruin my marriage. Leave infidelity. Let me go get my machete. I think Murph was a drinker. That face is a bit red to me. Oh, yeah? Find us another Murph commercial. I'm just saying, that's what a gas station owner used to look like in Southern California. All right, you could use Murph's bathroom. All you Wanted. There is no using anyone's bathroom. And by the way, the homeless have ruined it for everybody because normal people can't use the bathroom at the Starbucks or the liquor store. There is no more usage of the bathroom because homeless guys are shooting up in there. No, you gotta go up and get a code like you're about to enter the White House. Yeah, this guy just fills his empty brisk bottle up and then fucking goes by Corolla's pad, throws it on the driveway. That. That's where. That's where we're at. Murph is. We had another Murph. This is funny. Yeah. Cookies. We'll miss your service, Murph. Oh, there's good 76 stations in your new hometown. Not like Murph. But every dealer can't be Murph. That's right. Every 76 dealer is his own man. And everyone that I know is trying his best. And that's the spirit of 76. Good luck. Say we're new in town and looking for a 76 station. Of course, it'll be hard to beat our own old one. Maybe you've heard of it, Mort? 76. Mort. Go with the spirits. That's the spirit. The spirit of 76. That's what the gas stations of my youth were like. Everybody nowadays, we got the spirit of 9 11. That's right. There's no more 76. That's right. But Dwayne Johnson is pissing in bottles. He'll hold up to that. Pissing bottles means you're on the run. I mean, I've been pissing in a bottle every day I work at this show. So I'm glad I got your sign off on strapped right now, but. Yeah, they said he pushed up the Christmas movie Red One. The push the budget up by being late to $250 million. Well, I know the guy who wrote that movie now, so the guy. I just talked to him the other day. Chris Morgan, the guy who did all the Fast and Furious movies and then went on to Hobbs versus Shaw. Also did Bird Box and all that. That's Chris. And he wrote that movie, so I'll get the skinny from him, but he likes working with the Rock and tells me the Rock's a good dude. Now, I won't out other people, but not everyone is a good dude on that Fast and Furious franchise. But the Rock evidently is. Yeah, well, they say that he, like, gave away like 100 grand to the various crew members on the show. It's like, you know, I don't know. Another story where it's like mixed bag right here where they're saying, yeah, he pushes the thing up, but he's a really good guy. To everybody on set, he might push the. Push the time. The call times back a little bit. Well, I mean, it's going to add to the budget, but it's not going to add a hundred million dollars to the budget. It's going to add something to the budget. And he's just a busy dude. And then also, they always do this thing where they go, he gave all the Teamsters $100,000, and then some douchebag who makes $52,000 a year and doesn't pay in taxes will go, well, that's nothing for him. And it's like, don't worry about what it is for him. It's, what is it for the Teamster. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yes, Elon Musk could give a poor guy $10 million, and it would be nothing for Elon Musk. But that's not the question. The question is, what is it for the person that has no money? Not what isn't it for Elon Musk poking some powerful thoughts. Hey, speaking of money, Catholic woman fired for refusing the COVID vaccine, wins over $12 million in a Michigan court. Good. That seems egregious, though. Yes. This lady was a lot of money. Yeah. Lisa Domsky, who worked at an insurance company for 38 years as an IT specialist. Yeah. She got 12 million from the jury. How do they get 12 million out of that? Did you know? Yeah, Well, I think because the jury gets to dole out the money. They decided on that number. So it's one of those kind of opposite of jury nullification. They, like, did a thing where they said, oh, we're going to give her a boatload of money, said she refused. And she's an IT lady. Like, you think when they got the 10 million, they'd be like, that's enough. But they kept going. Yeah, that was the argument. That was that. That she didn't even work on site. She literally worked from home in her basement office. So she literally was so far away from the job site where she never had to interact with anybody, but they still made her take the shot. Yeah, well, there's. There's two kinds of payments. There's one is to repay the person and make them whole because they lost the limb in a punch press, and the other is to punish the business. This is probably a punishment that was $10 million in punitive damages and then 1.7 million in lost wages. And 1 million in non economic damages. I don't know what that last one is, but essentially it came up to $12.7 million where they. Yeah, they got taxed right there. Yeah, listen, all the people that tried to force everyone to get vaccinated can go fuck themselves. And also the federal government tried to do it too. Like, I know Biden always talks about freedom, except for he was trying to get OSHA to mandate everybody get vaccinated till they fought it and like went to the Supreme Court. So Fauci's fucking bad. It's gonna get worse. There will be more bad news coming out about Fauci and his dealings and all that shit. I was just listening to a replay, I think of him talking about getting everyone to get vaccinated by shaming them and fucking them up. And he's a bad dude. Now the thing about Fauci is he's a bad dude, but he comes in a really fun, nice little bite sized package and people like him, he's really a fucking shitty guy. And he was compromised. And I told everyone he's compromised early. And he was, and he still is. And there's nothing that'll convince me any otherwise, but more shit will come out and more FOIA requests and more emails with deleted shit on it. But here's what I said to someone. I was doing an interview this morning on the radio and somebody said, what do you think about all these people that caused all this damage during COVID And I said, well, I'd like their reputations destroyed. And for some who did a lot of real damage and if it's proven prison time. And then the person said, well, do you think Fauci should go to prison? And I said, and they sent Martha Stewart to prison. They sent Martha Stewart to prison. And her thing was about Insider trading for $45,000 worth of stocks. This guy did a lot fucking more damage than Martha Stewart did. Let's just. Here's all I'm saying. If Martha Stewart can go to prison, anybody can go to prison. If the federal government can go. This person is accused of insider trading to the tune of $45,000. But we never proved she did insider trading. Trading, but she didn't lie when she was being interviewed by the FBI. So for that she's going to prison, then technically Fauci can go to prison in the world I live in, because his damages would add up to a lot more than $45,000, let's say. But what kind of charges, though? I'm not really educated on this, like what? Well, first thing first, he was doing gain of function. He was doing gain of function research in Wuhan. Basically, Obama said, you can't do this kind of bioweapon testing here. And then he went, all right, well, what if they do it in China and we'll just pay them to do it over there? So he just outsourced it. Then he got grilled by Rand Paul or someone about it, and he kind of danced around his answer, but it was bullshit. He was doing gain of function in China. He also knew where the virus came from because they were working on it on this Chinese lab. He didn't want us to know it came from the lab where he was working on gain of function. So he kept pushing the wet market thing, natural immunity, all of the vaccinations. There's a long laundry list of shit. He lied about that. He knew about that. Potentially endangered people are. Certainly cost our economy a lot of money. I'm just saying, potentially, there's a lot more reasons he could go to jail than Martha Stewart. And Martha Stewart went to jail, so went to prison. So somebody's gonna make that case. You'll see. It'll keep. No news will ever get better. For Fauci, it all gets worse. It's all another email dump. It's all another FOIA request. And you'll know he lied about the origins right off and never stopped lying about it and colluded to lie about it. So he's not a good dude and he's a liar. And there's people who know a lot more than I do who could probably make a better case for it. But he probably has a subscription to the Washington Post and he can find out how to go outside the U.S. yes, my feel. I'm just saying, if Martha Stewart can go in the joint, we all could go in the joint. Oh, man. All right, you got another one? Or, you know, hey, that's the news of the day. All right, let's see. We got you guys office watchers here. Oh, yeah. What's great about the Office is my kids were born. What year did the Office go off the air? And we'll figure out what year? 2013. Okay. So, you know, my kids were five or six or something when the Office went off the air, but they watched every episode when they were 14, you know, which is good. It's nice. Not that they'll ever go back and revisit the man show or anything that I've been involved in, but they will support other actors in this town. So Brian Baumgartner is going to come in from the Office and then also Ben Silverman is going to join us as well. Ben is. He's one of the producers from the Office. But also, let's see. Jane the Virgin, Ugly Betty. Let's see the Biggest Loser. I mean this guy's done everything for a million years. Started as kind of wunderkind sort of guy. Started with William Morris in the mid-90s and packaged more than 25 television series including who Wants to Be a Millionaire? Weakest Link. Big Brother. Bam. Queerest Folk. Come on. Interesting. Interesting life. So we'll talk to those two. Kyle, I guess we're going to bid adieu to you. Nice seeing you guys. 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Ace man, rich man, poor man. Here. Reclaimed building materials. Get it on. You can leave us a message at 888-634-1744. Ben Silverman is zooming in. Brian Baumgartner is joining us as well in studio. The Night Before Christmas at Dunder Mifflin is the name of the book. Brian, of course, on the show. Ben, producer, one of the producers on the show. Good to see both of you again. Good to see you, Adam. Ho, ho, ho. Ben. It's weird. You started so young. So even though you've been at it for so long, you're still not old. Well, thank you for that, Adam. I appreciate that one. Yeah, I mean, you were kind of a wunderkin in this business. I kind of was. And as my mom says, it's all your fault. She points to the modern era and the modern age. She likes to remind me it's all my fault. So many shows you've been involved with, like, if there was anyone to really talk to about how the business has changed from then to now and how different it is, it's probably you. I mean, you've seen, because when you started, even though it was sort of the mid-90s, it was still very old school. Right. We had four networks. I mean we really had three. And the fourth kind of came online with Fox. You know, I was, I was there as that even arrived into our consciousness. And you had syndication and you had this emerging thing called cable, which is now this, now this dying animal. And there was no streaming. There were a lot of studios and they were all healthy. You went to the movie theaters and you watched your movies and you sat there and you enjoyed it and you paid for the popcorn and you actually wanted to see them on the Friday night they came out so you could talk about them and look smart to your friends on Saturday. So yes, it has dramatically changed from when I was a young man. The Office is enduring. I have twins that are 18 that probably saw every episode when there were 13, maybe 14. And it's nice. The reason I like stories like the Office is it gives you hope in that if something is really good and high quality, it doesn't have to be star studded and filled with bells and whistles. It can just be good. And as sad as we think the future is, and our children are my 14 year old twins and all their friends all love the Office. And it wasn't because it was foisted on them. They just migrated towards something good like how kids love the Beatles and Led Zeppelin and stuff like that. It's good. They just like what's good. They're still discerning enough to sell that. And it gives me hope. I mean, I think the fact that the show isn't just rewatched by the same audience again and again, but actually has discovered new generations of fans. And the fact that you both like it is a testament to the show. And I think your point early on it was like, like coming out of the age of Baywatch and beautiful people. And every TV show had five gorgeous people that you wouldn't like identify with in your hometown. And we did a show that was much more representative of the real world and real people. And even some of our actors weren't actors. They came from different parts of our landscape. They were writers who became actors or they were even one of our. Phyllis was our casting person's assistant. So we populated it with a lot real people. And then we had, I think, and I tell Brian this, you know, he was part of a murderer's row of talent. You know, all of those actors have obviously gone on and become megastars. And then I want to keep talking about television and culture, but TV used to create stars. Now in this streaming age, there's so much laziness, they would rather just pay a big talent to come into their show, which is also ballooning costs, but it's easier to justify and to get away with it. Whereas back then you created the stars. You know, George Clooney was on er, you know, Carell and Brian and Krasinski were all on our show. You know, it found the stars, built the stars and now it's very different. Brian, you had to, I mean, it all has to be sort of gravy, I guess you'd say. I mean, had to have exceeded every expectation for you that my kids, my 18 year old kids would be really excited to know that you were in here. Kind of, it's unbelievable. I mean, the fact of the matter is we struggled so long to just stay on the air, to just be there. And the fact that little by little we gained an audience, we gained an audience and then we became NBC's number one show for quite a while, but we were still never like Friends or Seinfeld or even Cheers. We were kind of this little niche thing. If you got it, you got it. And then four or five years after we were done then leading of course into the pandemic, it just, it grew and it grew and it grew. And to Ben's point, it just kept repopulating itself with a younger audience. People that we were not making the show for your 14 year old twins, we weren't making it for kids. We were consciously saying, well, if people who work in an office can relate to this in some way, then we'll have a hit. We didn't realize the attraction that it would have for kids. And I think it has to do with the parallel between an office and school. An unreasonable boss and an unreasonable teacher sitting next to people that you don't necessarily choose to sit next to. But still within that confined environment, I think that's a big part of it. Ben, what do you think this state of the union of these sort of modern day sitcom is? And I'll tell you, I was watching Friend of Mine, Kevin Hench created a few sitcoms and the Last Man Standing with Tim Allen and did one with I think one of the Wayne's Brothers, which is a new one, like, you know, Daddy's Home or something like that. And it was. I watched the first 10 minutes of it and it felt antiquated. Like it kind of felt like a bygone era. It's not really saying these jokes are good or these jokes are bad. It felt old and antiquated. Obviously the Office doesn't feel that way and it doesn't mean there can't be a resurgence of it. But is that sort of four camera live audience kind of as we knew it? It just kind of feels like a rotary phone now. It just feels false, right? In this age of reality television and social comedy on your devices, it doesn't feel grounded, you know, and it feels artificial. And if a character walks on stage and the audience laughs and then you amplify it with the canned laughter, the fake amplification of the laughter, that is part of the TV playbook, it rings false to people, it's comfortable, it's easy. But for me it's just not funny. And I think one of the things that you've always done in your career that Brian is exceptional at doing is actually being funny. And I think the part of the Office is the laugh out loud element of our actors and storylines and the brilliant writing and the faux documentary, single camera of it. The fact that there is no live audience and that we shoot it in this way that kind of feels like you're discovering the joke or kind of finding the comedy is for me a lot better and more enjoyable than what those kind of comedies. We need comedies to come back though. We had this age of darkness in television. It was high quality, but it was murders and it was mayhem and it was incest and it was. That was what was going on across the contemporary television landscape. And I think there's a real desire for comedy and funny laugh. Out loud comedy. And you see it in some films, but not a lot in TV comedies. But where you do see it is in all these standup specials that have become wildly successful. Yeah, but I want to follow up that. And I think there's only one thing that you missed, Ben, which I think is. Relates to exactly what you're talking about, about those gritty dramas taking over, is that we actually created a world. Like there was time spent on world building. And I think that a lot of those sort of proscenium audience laugh track shows, there's nothing real about it. There's nothing sort of instantly specific or relatable. And I think that. Sure, the standup specialist, but I think you could spend. If people spent more time on sort of building worlds and just put it in a funny environment, I think that's more the answer. Well, they want to skip the foreplay and go right for climax. And. And it's hard. I can tell you when I do stand up, when you're on stage, five seconds feels like 30 seconds, and 30 seconds feels like four minutes. And to do what Dave Chappelle does to set up a joke, long form, take a draw off a cigarette and then sit back down. And that really takes a security. And if you try that on open mic night, you're not gonna make it because they need a joke every 30 seconds because you haven't earned that security and that relationship, you know? And so I think when sitcoms get launched, it's open mic night, and they're like, how many jokes can we squeeze in per minute? But what that creates is a non relationship. That's right. With the characters. That's right. And now. And the worst thing you could say is you don't care. You know what I mean? Like, I've said that a million times with movies, like even like the Last beetlejuice. I got 20 minutes in and I'm like, I don't care. I just don't care if it works out for her or for him. I just don't care who wins or loses. Right. I don't care. You're watching a soccer match. One's Hungary, the other's Bulgaria. You don't know anyone on the team. It's just on. You know? That's right. But it takes a lot of security to pull up the stool, light the cigarette, and do the setup in slow form. And most people aren't secure enough, but most executives aren't secure enough for that. They're like, speed up that metronome. That's right. And it's character building, it's getting the time for that, but it's also creating stakes, making you care. I mean, think about, if you think about the premise of the Office, it's not funny. It is. We are a paper company that is about to die. We need to downsize people. We're not going to survive. Like, you could turn just that premise and make it very dark, make it very sort of disturbing, but there's stakes that are involved. So you begin to root one way or the other for or a character or a group of characters or hopefully everybody to survive. It's a great point, Ben. You've done so much over your career. And a lot of reality TV before there was reality TV, really. And I have these distinct memories of 1996, sitting with Dr. Drew on MTV, doing an hour, a nightly hour show with no script and no writers, no anything. And I kept turning him and going, real tv, like real. Like real questions and real answers and real. I wish I'd said reality. I just kept saying real because we didn't have a writer's room and we didn't have anything. We didn't have cue cards. We didn't have anything. And I was like, real. And I kept saying, like, this is the future. This is the future real. And, you know, I. I didn't know there was going to be Bum Fuck island and all this stuff would come off it. But that was back in 96. I was saying, I think people want something real. And now here we are. It got so real we could mock you. Ties it actually the Office out of the uk, that first wave of reality television. There were shows called like the Airport and you literally were just filming the actual people working at the airport, you know. And then because of that, I did shows like the Restaurant and Blowout set in the Hair salon and started to kind of almost create the genre that Office was like, grounded in, you know, this kind of. This reality show. You know, we kind of went a little bit more in the words faux documentary, but actually it was a mock you reality show that we were doing inside it. And Randall Einhorn, who was our DP on that show, I actually hired out of Survivor and the reality world to shoot it so that we would ground it in that style. And that was like a big move that we made in the show. It also sped up the production pace because he knew how to just. He not only was the dp, he also held the camera so like, you know, he'd be shooting and setting up and it was, you know, wildly fresh. And new and then obviously now imitated everywhere. We didn't have girls dancing on trampolines, but, you know, we did, we did, we did that other stuff and, you know, you were part of that. And I think that first wave got more manufactured and more produced over time. But you're watching the Mormon Wives on Hulu or whatever still resonate with the audiences. It's funny, you said Einhorn and I was like, well, when I was at the man show, I used to work with Beth Einhorn, who was one of the directors whose dad, I think was in the industry as well. And I thought, I wonder. Ours is Australian, so it's probably different. It's Einhorn. But it's weird. As you're saying Einhorn, I was having this man show flashback to Beth Einhorn, the director. Yeah, yeah. And I guess the question is, is it moving so fast now that you have to feel like you're a speeding train and you have to be out in front of it throwing track down as fast as you can? Because things are evolving and changing and moving that quickly. Whereas in the past I felt like we would settle in and there would be a status quo that would last. You know, I grew up, I'd watch Mod on tv and by the time I was enjoying Seinfeld, it was the same thing. You know, it was just, you know, a better version of it. But I mean, you get 25, 30, 40. I mean, there are guys in this business who were cameramen or behind the scenes guy or makeup people or riders that had the same job for 40 years. Nothing changed in that. You know, if you catch it just right, I don't know if it's just right or just wrong, but you'll be gainfully employed as a cue card person for 41 years. Right now you have to be a Dragon manufacturer, right? You have to shift, shift your methodology. The evolution of creativity, I think, to your point reaches. It was 100 year periods then. Now we're in this cycle of speedy transformation. I think a lot has to look to the Internet and the short form and the digestibility of that short form. But the prank show and like Candid Camera is actually, you know, one of the best features of the online medium is all of that kind of the gotcha stuff and the prank stuff and the crashes and the crash, you know, the funniest home video stuff. So it is interesting to see that play out and then kind of informed by television, but now done quicker and better and faster with more technology. And where does it come back to reflect on Narrative storytelling on emotional storytelling. And it's hard to find. I think there's some wonderful shows out there though. You know, I don't want to discredit. There's some incredible shows. And I was just thinking as you were talking, like, I am laughing at Vince Vaughn's performance in Bad Monkey. There are moments where Vince Vaughn is being full Vince Vaughn and I'm actually like, ah, you're giving me a man on TV again. You're giving me, you're giving me a guy who's not like walking on eggshells into every scene. And I'm enjoying it. Vince Vaughn is a gift. Like he and him and Wedding Crashers, you know, it's really sad that they never give any kind of consideration for an Oscar or things of that to a really strong comedic performance. But if you just see him in Wedding Crashers, you're like, first off, how many people could pull that off? Like, there's plenty of serious roles for, you know, supporting actor, but I, we all know plenty of people that could pull that off. Like, how many of those Vince Vaughn, you know, scenes where he's playing football and Bradley Cooper's beating the shit out of him or he's getting the hand job under the table or like whatever it is. Like, how many people you know could do that? Yeah, not a lot. Well, Brian could do happening right now. What's going on at that table? It's a high table. I, yeah, no, your point is a thousand. Or Carell in 40 Year Old Virgin. Yes. Yeah. Like, why is it not even thinkable that someone would take some time and go, look, we have a category for best performance. We didn't say dramatic performance, we just said performance. You know what I mean? And we all can agree that comedy is oftentimes more difficult than the drama is. This guy carried this film for 103 minutes. Maybe we could think about doing something with a comedy, you know, not, not too shabby. Like, why, why not? I, I'm with you. I agree with you a thousand percent. I, I think your premise is very solid. It is more difficult to do comedy. And yeah, screw the dramatic, guys, I'm with you. I'm with you. Adam. I. And it's also, it's harder to write comedy too. It is, it's just a more difficult, It's a taller order. It just is. The pathos is doable because you just. She died and she got cancer and she was too young and she shouldn't be this way. I love that show. That should win an Oscar. No, Mother should have to bury a daughter, Damn you. That's hard to do. Jokes are a lot tougher. Architecture. I mean, the architecture of comedy. That's what I was about to say. Yeah, yeah, but. And sorry, but on the off it, one piece of it that is, you know, people ask me about it. In addition to that, you know, performing core, that brilliant acting core, you know, our writers were all super smart. Like, you're talking an Ivy League, you know, level group. Like, they. Half of them went to Harvard and the other half went to Dartmouth and Brown. Like, they were so intelligent. And they also, I think a lot actually about the academic prowess of writers being important because you have to put the pen to paper. Like, you have to have that discipline that got you whatever grades, got you into whatever school. And Brian was on a scholarship to SMU because of the great acting program, by the way, as an example. But you had to go and actually do the work. Like, doing the work is so hard for a writer, and have to sit there and do the work, and then you have to put it out there for judgment of these writing staffs. Like, you're sitting there, you know, baring your soul, pitching out jokes, and that's a snarky group of people. And they're not always, like, embracing those jokes. And so, like, you have to lay it on the line. I'm sure there are many times why so many comedians are so depressed that you're going home and be like, I failed. You did 90% well. But like, oh, that one, that didn't resonate, and you're crying. But it's. But it's not just. It's also not just the jokes, right? I mean, to take your premise and say, well, you can. Anyone can write jokes, right? They're either funny or they're not. But to write a joke while taking into account character one, truth, two, and three, the world in which you exist is incredibly difficult. And I think that's where you start talking about comedy is more difficult than drama. Drama is sort of right down the line. Like, we get it. We're here in this house and there's a funeral and there's like, whatever. But to make a joke, to make it funny and also be on story, be on character, all at the same time. That's what the writers on the Office, I think, were just incredible at. Yeah, I agree. I mean, it's convenient for me, but I just mean, you know, when Vin Diesel explains that he lives his life a quarter mile at a time, which to me is a great comedy line, but that has to be written with a straight face, you know, so like I watched the whale the other night. I never watched a whale because I was convinced I would just be depressed by it. Right. Sure enough. But, and it was, it was entertaining. It was a good and entertainment entertaining movie. But it could, you know, it was good and entertaining. But it's like, then the brother killed himself, you know, and he jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge and everyone was pretty bummed out. It was raining the whole time and it was a great and stirring performance. But when you see again something like wedding crashes or something, you go, God, that's a tall order to keep everyone laughing for that period of time. That's right. Without the dips and the dolls and you know, and at some point Will Ferrell pops up and his mom's upstairs wanting meatloaf, you know, and it just, it's just, I, I just again, it may be self serving, but I, I just find it to be a, a taller order than, than the drama. Ben, you were at ABC when you were young, right? NBC youngest champion. Oh, did I say NBC? Sorry, NBC, the high quality engine of NBC. I'd like to say 30 broke up a second there. Ben. Sorry, see if we can Repeat the last 30 seconds. Sorry, sorry. I was 36 years old and it was NBC and I was the chairman at 30 Rockefeller Center. And it was incredible. I was literally nominated for two shows in the comedy category back when it mattered and before great inflation happened in TV, when you had actually 5. Am I losing you again? No, we got you. Oh my God, you guys are so still. I have to let everyone know, watching the video. These guys are like statues. They're incredible. They're so good. But I was nominated for Ugly Betty and the Office in the comedy category. There were only five shows up for nomination in that category at the time. I was named chairman of NBC at age 36. I was single, smoking weed and having a great time. And I had no idea how hard all that was and how that broadcast network was on the kind of precipice of this transformation. You know, I thought it'd be so fun and I'd green lighting shows and having a good time. And you arrive and you realize, oh no, we already have three hours of the Today show. Oh no, we already have the Tonight Show. Oh no, I'm sorry. Actually Datelines on seven hours a week you have this half an hour to program if Dick Wolf lets you. And Dick Wolf literally has like a goiter on his head because he's Such a mean man. And you're, like, sitting there and, like, part of this, like, this institution. And I'm like, oh, my God, I'm a Ferrari in a parking lot of Tauruses. No offense to Taurus. At the time, that was a car I wanted to drive. But it was. It was a lot. But wildly educational. I learned so much about television working inside the machine, and it was incredibly interesting. And it was a fantasy of mine. I grew up loving Brandon Tartakoff. He was a hero of mine. And to be able to be in that job in that network that had brought me so much joy, from Cheers to Hill Street Blues to St. Elsewhere to so much quality content, and it was like a fantasy for me to have that job. I didn't want to be a rock star. I didn't want to play third base. I wanted to be the chairman of NBC. And it happened. It's amazing. And I was doing something at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel over the weekend, and I passed. I was coming backside to there, and I think I was going by William Morris. And I had these flashbacks to William Morris in mid-90s. And everything felt so possible, you know, I don't know, young love kind of thing. Burnt out dad or whatever this thing is. But I could remember just going to New York was a thing, and then, oh, you're doing Letterman. You're going to New York and you're doing Letterman. This is incredible, you know, And I can never figure out when you guys are pretty qualified to answer this. Was it our young brain and sort of everything was happening, or was it a different, more romantic time? The second, I think. I mean, first off, you had. And I don't know what their numbers were, but you had millions of people that were watching you in that. Like, you had the power of that if you're on Letterman or, you know, Carson before that or whatever, whereas now more people are watching on their phones or streaming this or that. There is no sort of destination like that. And is there also sort of an element of. For me, I kind of grew up thinking about guys like De Niro and go, who is this genius? Who is this guy? He's an enigma. He's a mispronounce. He's a genius. And now he's on the View and he's screaming fuck Trump as loud as he can. I was like, the guy who owns no Boo. Like, you know, right? And I'm sort of like, oh, now I know who he is. Right? And, like, it was more fun when I didn't know who these Guys, I could imagine them going home. No, you thought he was taxi driver. Like, you were actually scared of him to have a small gun strapped to his ankle. Right. And I didn't know who anybody was back then, and I kind of liked it that way. That was part of the appeal. I didn't see him hawking coffee makers or anything. It was just that guy was that guy sort of bigger in life. And also, everyone knows everything about everyone, and everyone got caught up in some sort of scandal. And there's some picture of Oscar de La Hoya wearing women's underpants, and it's like, oh, come on, I want to know all that I know. Is it that or we have no heroes? We have no heroes. We've undercut the positive out of our society so quickly. We have no leaders we actually love. We kind of accept one or the other. It's not like we kind of run to embrace everything. It's like these lesser of two evils is like our decision across so many choices in our world. And I think it's one of the reasons sports just continues to explode because, like, there's no, you know, on the field is a really defining, defining thing. But, you know, content still can be extraordinary. And there are so many wonderful performances, you know, out there and great shows and movies to come. I'm sad about the movies because I think we went so derivative. But there are still some wildly original TV shows that are inspiring and great to watch and some incredible performances out there in multiple shows. I think of Lie, Fiber and like Perfect Couple or Gary Oldman in Slow Horses. You know, there are some of these really tour de force kind of performances that still inspire you and excite you to watch tv, you know, and to go find something that you want to sit and enjoy. But there's no question that that heyday, that ability, as Brian said, to convene a large audience around a singular conversation was spectacular and was career affirming. Your instinct, Adam, of oh, my gosh, I booked Letterman. Like, that bit could get you the TV show could get you the sitcom. That was a moment. People would do standup and they would get literally a sitcom around them, whether it was Roseanne or Tim Allen or Seinfeld or whomever. And, you know, getting those opportunities was like hitting a gold mine. But I think also to your point, when, even when I started, the idea of an actor is to be a chameleon, right? And to create characters and to be believable in those characters. Now, everybody, I mean, I try as best I can to Not. But everybody puts themself out there so much and sometimes it's contractual that you have to do this. Sometimes it's, you know, there's a commercial or a brand deal or whatever it is that you're forced to do that. But ultimately you're pigeonholing yourself. I mean, right now there are certain roles that I, that I would just be told no because of now, what my identity is. And I think back in the time, De Niro, Pacino, you don't. They can be whoever they can be whoever they can create. Because Daniel Day Lewis in Last of the Mohicans, in My Left Foot, would he be allowed to play either of those Oscar worthy, Oscar winning roles With Daniel Day Lewis, arguably one of the greatest actors of the modern era, Is he allowed to play the role he played in Last of the Mohicans? Is he allowed to play the role he played in My Left Foot? No, and I agree. The part that drives me nuts is this guy's playing gay, but he's not gay. It's the definition of acting. It's cold acting. It's baked right into it. You're playing somebody, hey, I'm from North Hollywood. Sometimes I could stretch out and play someone who's from Valley Village or maybe Encino, you know. Exactly. That might upset some people. Exactly. But it's called acting, right? Yeah. I had somebody. I was looking at a show that took place in the south and there was some feedback that came back after a meeting that I had was that I'm not, you know, I read too Midwestern or California or like, whatever, and I'm like, I'm from Georgia. Like, I worked to get rid of how I talked when I was a kid. So it's just like that perception now because everybody is just out there all of the time. Way too much in my opinion. But yeah, it is what it is. What do you guys think about the stylistic camera with the doc style shooting that you guys would do? And then it made its way, I guess, into Modern Family, Although I'm trying to think of the chronology here. And it's a weird thing because it starts off as a sort of conceit, like, oh, we're doing a doc. And then at some point they just forget about it. Now we're just staring at the camera. But then it made its way into Abbott elementary and I'm like, hold on, they're not shooting a doc at an elementary school. What is this thing? And then I realized, oh, you just started it, established it and just became so established that people could do it, even if it didn't really make sense or live in that world. Does that seem as if. Is it flattering? Is it distracting? Is it kind of feel like it's being ripped off? Yeah, it's very distracting. It feels unnecessary. And I haven't leveled. I haven't talked about this too much, but one of the things, I've said this for a long time that I was the most proud of on our show was that every scene there was a discussion about, okay, who are the characters? What's happening here? But also, where is the camera? So as a character, are you aware that the camera is there? Are you trying to hide from the camera? Is the camera hidden so they can't see what you're doing? Like, that whole dynamic, I think, is a huge reason that, again, that reality, that people buy it, that it doesn't have that fake gloss, that people respond to that additional. That camera is a character. And I think the shows, by and large, that you're talking about, that was a device used for comedy at time, like, oh, we want to be able to look at the camera or acknowledge the camera. The problem for me, and the part that gets really distracting is, okay, we're acknowledging that a camera's here. We're doing that. We called them the talking heads, the direct. Someone's interviewing. You're answering the camera. But then we're going into a scene between a husband and wife, and the camera is seemingly not there, or they're not having this argument in front of a camera, in front of a crew. Like, and that never happened for us. Like, there was always, like, you know, I'm going to behave nicer because I see that I'm being filmed right now, or I'm going to forget about it and then acknowledge that I've forgotten about or whatever. And I think that is very difficult to do. That takes a lot of time, a lot of decisions. How are we setting up these shots? And by and large, that doesn't exist anymore. But for me, that's it. That's the whole story. Is that being a part of it and how it's being filmed. I'm glad you're bothered by it. I am. I am. And I don't talk about it because there's a lot of shows that I really like and really respect. But when I'm seeing that, I go like, well, where did the camera crew grow? Why are they not acknowledging that they're there anymore? And it just. It pulls me out and kind of makes me crazy. Well, here's a Deep dive for you two. But hopefully your hypervigilance and vitriol will help you. See you through this and know what I'm talking about. We're in a renaissance of docs, which I love, because I make docs and I love docs. And most of the time, I'm sitting on my ass watching. Watching something. I'm not really learning anything. But let's say with a doc, it's like, it's nutritious and it's yummy at the same time, and you can get a lot of entertainment. And so doc started doing this weird semicircle squiggle thing, which meant Super 8 and would pop up in the archival footage. They put this flash thing and we can find a picture of it somewhere because. Cause I've yelled about it enough and it was fine. It's old footage of the band from the 70s and it's old footage of the Lakers. And then it started popping up in Showtime, or not Showtime, but winning time. It would show up in winning time all the time. It was like, oh, old footage. But it wasn't old footage. But they grafted it on. It was a patina. Yes. Now they just put it. It's Bon Jovi with a full head of gray hair. He's sitting down at 2023, and they're putting a stupid Super 8 circle up there. And I'm like, you're playing too fast and loose with this now. And now it's become like an accoutrement, you know, and it's become a style. And to me, it's the same thing as flashing the camera. Just this shouldn't exist in this setting. It's just become something that popular shows have done. And now you've grafted it onto your show. But it bugs the shit out of me. And I'm every bit as animated about it as you are about flashing the camera and. Or do you even know what I'm talking about? I know exactly what you're talking about. I knew you would. Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about. They used to use it sparingly and they lay it over old archival footage. And now it's in the new stuff. Yes, it just flashes up there. It's a sort of crop circle that lives in the upper left hand corner of the screen. I've got another one for you. I got another one for you. Which is in. Again, in this sort of documentary style, which is. Oh, this would be shot on an iPhone. And so they do the framing of it as though this is footage that's being shot from an iPhone. It's not. They're just putting that on there to show you. Like, oh, no, this is. This would have been shot. Yeah, this would have been shot on an iPhone. And that makes me insane as well. Well, I guess the question is, when you take a doc and you go too far into the artistic license department, then when does it cease becoming to be a doc? You know what I mean? I'm starting to not believe you now because you've added so much to your doc that, well, look, here's old. A doc is all about me going, oh my God, this really happened. Yes. You grafted on a fake Super 8 squiggle on this modern footage, which proves to me you're a liar, good sir. And now I take into question every everything else. Okay, here is modern Bon Jovi with a full head of gray hair on screen in 20, 22 and a half with the Super 8 cut out squiggle on the left. Yeah, yeah, no, I hear, I hear you. I hear it's also akin to the. About the documentary. I have turned a few off where the reenactments. We're now going to reenact this. And then now what they've started doing is reenacting just for mood, right? Like, so someone is telling a story about walking down a dark hallway and we see an actor's feet walking down a dark hallway for like, what are you, like, if the, if the story is compelling, if the. I mean, the office. By the way, there's an example. Just let the characters tell the story and show them in their current form and don't put all the shit on top of it. I feel I'm with you. I feel that way. I feel that way on insert shots. Like, they have the shot of the guy walking up the walkway. Knock, knock, knock on the door. Then cut to tight shot of hand on door knob. Cut the interior shot of hand unlocking lock. Just get to the fucking living room. The guy knocked on the door, somebody opened the door and the person sat in the living room. I will believe that that happened. I will believe that that happened without every single step of opening the door. Well, close up on hinge knuckles. Yes, it does. And as an actor, I will tell you, if it's annoying for the audience, 25,000 times more annoying to be at midnight, right? You're at the end of the day and it's like turning around. Let's do the insert shots. Hey, can you put your hand right here? And then we relight the hand on the Doorknob. Yeah. No, I'm with you. I agree. We say let's get rid of the Super 8 squiggle. Let's get rid of the acting out of something that's already being spoken. Yes. And let's get rid of all the insert shots. Like have the person walk to their car and then drive down the street talking to their agent on the phone. Don't tight of them opening the door, getting in, putting the seat. Close up of seat belt latching. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. All right. Sorry, Ben. I'm with you. I make a lot of docs. And, you know, docs used to be homework on pbs, and now they're like a latte at Starbucks. They went all the way to the entertainment cycle, and I love them, and I totally agree they feel like you're getting something out of them, and they're wildly entertaining now. I agree. And I think it's a good thing. It's healthy that in a world where no one has an attention span anymore and everything's just sort of lowest common denominator, that these things have really found a home in this modern society and that they're really getting skillfully made. It used to be the work of. Yeah, the guy in the basement with the grant from pbs, but there wasn't. You weren't talking about a filmmaker or an artist. You're talking about a guy who assembled things. There wasn't a schwa de vivre to it. And. And now you're finding out what could happen if people who had a artful artistic skill turned it toward documentaries, which in the past it was very procedural. Guys who wrote textbooks made documentaries. Now you have. What is good is. I love the main title. Sequences of docs have gotten so much better and more alive and using the vocabulary of narrative movies and tv. And then you also are seeing inside the way graphics packages do work for me. Like I actually do. Like, as graphics can explain something or as graphics can surround the screen in a different way. Not to fake an old image, but to actually just push the story forward in a way that the medium deserves to be visually arresting and exciting. Ben has. I'm gonna. I'm gonna talk on you a minute. We're not here for that. What's. What's the series called? Just say the series name. Untold. Yes. Ben has a documentary series called Untold. I don't know if you've seen any of them. Manti Teo. Yes. Had one. Marty Fish. Johnny Manziel. Yes, I saw. I saw Johnny Manziel. Yeah. Real. Is it PSP or is it fun? It's Netflix. It's basically Netflix's, you know, cinematic 30 for 30, you know. Yeah, I saw Johnny Football. Amazing. They're amazing. You know, they really are very, very good. Yeah, they make very happy. No, listen, I remember, I think when I saw the Kid Stays in the Picture and just the fact that they would move on an actual still image was in the tears and they made those pictures come alive. I always refer to that, Adam. And that was an Oscar winning film by Nanette Burstein who's actually making made our Hillary Clinton documentary and is making an amazing documentary for us right now. And I thought when they did that in that I think that changed the documentary for me. When they kind of turned those photos instead of doing the Super 8 thing you're talking about, they just amplified those photos so that they felt like moving images, images, not like static images. And I just thought that was absolutely brilliant. And I think that opened up a whole world of new storytelling and documentary. And I would say one thing, as tough as Netflix has been in and around hurting the ecosystem with their financial and their other parts of how they kind of can bully the system a little bit, they really bet on documents. And when they, I think were early on, basically 40 million people, let's say, were subscribing to Netflix, 10% of their audience watched documentaries. Now with 300 million subscribers, 80% of their audience is watching. So you have watched this transformation and it has been wild. I keep using the word wildly. I want to say wildly a million times today. I think maybe my 13 year old son Myers reading Call of the Wild, maybe that's it. But you know, that is an amazing transformation and a gift for the audience. Agreed, Ben. I'll get you some of my docs I think you'll enjoy. I was thinking that I didn't want to do it live on air, but I want to see them and connect to them. We're long. I think you'll. Well, I did one on Paul Newman's racing career, which I think you'll enjoy if you enjoy the kids days. Oh, I want to see that so bad. I love that whole part of Paul Newman's life and I've never been inside it. It's only about his racing career, it's not about his acting career. So I think you'll enjoy that. Brian. I'll give a plug to the book. The Night Before Christmas at Dunder Mifflin, Available, Barnes Noble, Amazon, and wherever you find finer books, wherever you find fine or not fine books, it'll be there. Any book. Any book. It will be there. You might even find a candle at the stores that sell our books now that, you know, booksellers have to be multifactors. We, Brian and I did a book signing in this incredible store in New Jersey in Northvale, New Jersey. And we had an amazing turnout of wonderful people across the state of New Jersey. And we're sitting in this bookstore. It wasn't till the very back of the store that the books were. The entire front of the store was like, there was chocolate covered pretzels, there was candles, there was stuffed animals there. I was like, this is the bookstore survival sell other things than books. Yeah, yeah, I know. It's like if you ever walk from Tijuana back to the American border, every fucking. Because they know you're drunk, you know, and they're like, you know, I could use, I want to hear when did you walk from Tijuana back to the American border? Wow. We used to park on the American side, walk over and take a cabin. And then when you walked back, you were always drunk. And you're like a plaster of Paris et with a Prussian helmet is definitely something I'm missing. Were you a mule walking across that border? I may have inadvertently brought crabs back. Did you get butt implants over there? I love that people are like, think it's a good idea to go to Tijuana for their cheaper plastic surgery. That sounds like a really good call. Bad idea. It is insane. And I get auto body work, you know what I mean? Maybe upholstery, but plastic surgery? Go ahead and save for another year. Go upstairs. It's next to the nail salon. Same woman doing the work. All right, Ben, I'll send you out those docs so you can enjoy those. It was great catching up with you, my friend. Thank you so much for having us, Adam. And super congrats. You just continue to kill it from Letterman on forward. Well say, say the same to you. Right back at you, my friend. And Brian, always good to see you. Cheers. Good to see you Adam again. The night before Christmas at Dunder Mifflin is out as we speak and find you can find it at finer bookstores or lower grade bookstores or bookstores with chocolate covered pretzels or candles. Thank you guys for coming in. Thanks to Kyle Dunnigan for joining today. I'm going to be Kimmels tomorrow in Vegas doing standup. You can go down curl.com for all the live shows. Till next time. Seven for Kyle and Brian and Ben. Say it Mahala. 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