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David Duchovny
Hi everyone, I'm David Duchovny. Join me on my podcast Fail Better where we use failure as a lens to reflect on the past and analyze the current moment. I speak with makers and performers like Rob Lowe, Rosie o' Donnell and Kenya Barris, as well as thinkers like Kara Swisher and Nate Silver to understand how both personal setbacks and larger forces impact our world. Listen to Fail Better wherever you get your podcasts. Lemonada.
Kulap Vilaisak
Oh, so with that fire boy blingy, you forgot your blingy. Wait. Hey everyone. Welcome to the very first episode of.
David Duchovny
Add to Cart, a podcast about everything we buy and buy into and what.
Kulap Vilaisak
It says about who we are.
David Duchovny
I am Kulap Vilaisak and you may remember me as the Benihana waitress that Michael Scott marks from the office. I also created the show Bajillion dollar Properties and directed the documentary Origin Story.
Kulap Vilaisak
I'm so Jun Pak and you may remember me from mtv. I'm a journalist, a producer, and we are your hosts and your new best friends. Or at least your new kooky aunties. Every week we're gonna share the products and ideas we are into Add to Cart and what We Aren' from Cart and everything in between.
David Duchovny
We'll have future categories like Open Carts across the Internet, does this Make Me Look Weird? And Listener Recommendations.
Kulap Vilaisak
We send our weekly items to our producer Claire separately so we don't know what the other person will be talking about until we record.
David Duchovny
So get ready for some fresh in the moment reactions as we Zoom Share Screen do you remember a life without Zoom? I don't.
Kulap Vilaisak
Make sure to follow dtocartpod on Instagram for posts about all the products we talk about in each episode.
David Duchovny
Hey Soojin, I think it's time.
Kulap Vilaisak
Let's do it. So cool up. What did you add to Cart this week?
David Duchovny
Well, I wanted to tell you that I added this to cart September 20th just to give you perspective. September 20th is where I bought matching Mickey and Minnie Mouse Christmas gingerbread pajamas for myself, for Scott and my two dogs. Also, they're not just pajamas. They're holiday bodysuits for adults. Your thoughts?
Kulap Vilaisak
First of all, that sounds so hot. We live in California. I'm also very warm right now. So the gingerbread footed pajamas for you and your partner.
David Duchovny
And two dogs.
Kulap Vilaisak
And two dogs. Sorry. Your entire family. To take pictures in, to open presents in. Are you doing holiday cards in or just because you thought it was hilarious?
David Duchovny
It was less about being hilarious and more about coziness and. Yeah, like, opening presents, having hot cocoa. I just really am wanting that feeling of the holidays right now.
Kulap Vilaisak
Oh, yeah.
David Duchovny
And I've already scheduled for my Christmas lights to be installed November 12th, and my Christmas tree will be up soon thereafter.
Kulap Vilaisak
Oh, so you are rushing into the holidays. Like, head first. It can't get here fast enough.
David Duchovny
Like, that cannot get.
Kulap Vilaisak
Really.
David Duchovny
I need it.
Kulap Vilaisak
I need it because I can't think of anything less I want to hurdle towards right now. Like, what is it about the holidays? Like, you just want to.
David Duchovny
It's my favorite time and I'm really, truly upset that I can't do what I normally do, the gathering. I have a holiday party every year. That cannot happen.
Kulap Vilaisak
Exactly.
David Duchovny
Like, I'm just trying to salvage Christmas before it's come. These are preventative. I'm trying to manage myself and my.
Kulap Vilaisak
So wait, so I'm a really big holiday person. Like, I love Christmas, but because this feels so different, I sort of am, like, sad. Like, I don't. You know what I mean? But for you, it doesn't bring you a little bitter sweetness. Like, it brings you, like, I want to be there because things are not so cozy right now. Does that make sense?
David Duchovny
It does. And make no mistake, I am very sad. But I am expressing it.
Kulap Vilaisak
Masking. Expressing it.
David Duchovny
No, no, no, no. I really wanna be clear that I'm sad. I am very, very sad. And I think that this will help with my sadness.
Kulap Vilaisak
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it'll make you feel better.
David Duchovny
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Kulap Vilaisak
Like, for me right now, thinking about gathering just the few random straggling family members that can visit very few again into my home because I see them all the time. And spending two weeks just with them again in my home without taking a road trip somewhere or, like, we'll rent a house in Palm Springs. There's day trips and people are coming in and out. Now we're all just going to be staring at each other. And I just, like, it just kills me. I don't know what to do with my holiday feelings right now, so. Okay. But I love that you. You're willing to have it be a very soothing time for you, that it's just going to somehow ease some of the sadness.
David Duchovny
Yes, that's right. Preventative.
Kulap Vilaisak
Yes.
David Duchovny
Yes.
Kulap Vilaisak
I have to think. I have no idea what I'm gonna do for the holidays. I don't know.
David Duchovny
Sujin, I'm gonna be honest with you. My second item is something that I know will get a reaction from you.
Kulap Vilaisak
Oh, no. Is it something that you put near your hoo ha. Your vaginal opening?
David Duchovny
I could. Well, that's true about everything, though the.
Kulap Vilaisak
Suspense is killing me. Actually, it's true about very little things, but. Okay, sure.
David Duchovny
Is that right? Okay. This is great because in this new podcast, we are alike, but we're also different. And so on one range, I feel that it is possible to put my hoo haul near and around everything. And you're like, I'm on the other side. And that's why this is going to be successful.
Kulap Vilaisak
That's a strong stance that you're taking, and I appreciate it. Because someone has to take that stance, you know, and you're willing to be that person.
David Duchovny
Hey, I'm brave.
Kulap Vilaisak
You're champ is what you are. And I've always said it. I will continue to say it. You're a champ.
David Duchovny
Thank you.
Kulap Vilaisak
You're a hoo ha champ.
David Duchovny
Thank you. I added to Cart the Netflix series the Home Edit, and I have also purchased the Home Edit book. No. Now, in passing, we were prepping for the podcast. I heard you say derisively that you hated it. I guess it's not derisive if it just straight up flat out said that you hated it. But I wanted to talk to you about it. I wanted us to unpack it. I want you to go off.
Kulap Vilaisak
So. Okay, no, first tell me why you added it to Cart.
David Duchovny
Okay, so I added the show to Cart because I was noticing on the Twitter, I'm often on the social medias that people were talking about, hey, like, this show makes me feel good because it's just nice. People like organizing. And I'm like, I like to organize. I love it. I love to organize.
Kulap Vilaisak
I've seen your house. It is the home edit. I mean, let me just say thank you. It's very organized. It's serenity wrapped up in a home. But go on.
David Duchovny
Thank you. And I want. And so speaking of that, I want to see how their organization matches up with my organization.
Kulap Vilaisak
Oh, it's a competition. Okay, now it's getting interesting now. Now suddenly I've perked up and I'm curious, right?
David Duchovny
You know, I bought Marie Kondo's book very early on, before she had the show. And there was a lot of controversy and, and dare I say it, mainly from white people that were really angry at Ms. Kondo. And I was like, what's the big deal? But now they're embracing the home edit. Huh? Let me see, let me see. And the home edit, if you haven't seen it, it has an element of celebrity and real people. And so I'm like, okay, what's up with Reese Witherspoon? That's not how you say your last name. Witherspoon. What's she up to? Oh, okay. She's going to have one closet that's just for her memorabilia, her film memorabilia. One section is just various movies. I'm like, okay, that is interesting to me. And so I will say that I started watching it. It soothes me. It made me pick up a chore that I put off for a year, which is another add to cart item. It's a cart within a cart. I had a legacy box. Are you familiar with legacy box Hoochin?
Kulap Vilaisak
No. What's that?
David Duchovny
It's a service where you send all your media that you want scanned, like pictures or VHS's digitized, basically. And I'd been wanting to clear out old photos. And so I was inspired to finally finish that project, which I'd been putting off forever. So that was in the background while I was like looking at pictures, deciding I was tossing pictures. I love to throw things away because back in the day when you took pictures on your normal cameras, you would take like five and they would all be unclear. And then you bought. You got doubles because you were going to give one away. So I had all this crap. So that was in the background. Now, I've spoken a lot. I'd like for you to talk.
Kulap Vilaisak
Well, I think it's only fitting that we go straight to remove from cartoon and oh, interesting. Home edit would be on that. I have so many things to say. Let me try to call it down. I cannot believe you bought a book. How many pages can you fill? You get some clear containers from the Container Store, Page one. End of book.
David Duchovny
I don't know because I haven't opened it.
Kulap Vilaisak
They put everything in clear containers by color, which is not a way to organize a home. It's a way to organize a photo and a post. That's not how you organize a home. Like, I think my Problem with this show, and I respectfully say this, and with the other show which I removed from CART this week, which was something like my dream home makeover. Did you see that one on Netflix?
David Duchovny
Yeah. I mean, I. Because I did bajillion dollar properties and I do love home shows in general because I love home stuff.
Kulap Vilaisak
Yeah.
David Duchovny
I won't commit to something like dream home makeover, but I'll dabble in this.
Kulap Vilaisak
Time in this place where we are.
David Duchovny
The time of quare. Are you talking about the pandy?
Kulap Vilaisak
The time of core. The time of 2020. The time of hardships, pandemics, racial unrest.
David Duchovny
Yeah.
Kulap Vilaisak
What I don't need to see is a Kardashian mansions garage filled with tiny race cars for toddlers needing to be organized. You know what I mean? Like, that isn't on my list of things that I feel is appropriate right now. The thing about Marie Kondo that I loved is that there was something very soulful about it. You know, hold something, does it spark joy? Whether you that sounds silly to you or not. I thought that there was some heart in that. But you know, when I clicked on the episode where one of the Kardashians has to have.
David Duchovny
Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
Kulap Vilaisak
Areas for her toddler's sports cars. I just.
David Duchovny
Something in my brain, something went away.
Kulap Vilaisak
You left your body. I left my body. And I said, it's time, sweetie. It's time.
David Duchovny
I didn't know that there was a line and here I am drawing it in the sand. Toddler sports car parking lot in the garage.
Kulap Vilaisak
Parking lot in the garage. That's where my line is. You know, Please don't make me. I am not a saint. I love things. I love to buy things. This is why we're doing this show. I don't know, I think just right now for where we are. It feels off.
David Duchovny
Yeah.
Kulap Vilaisak
That's all. Okay.
David Duchovny
It's great. You know what? I hear you. I have not really even looked at the book. My friend was like, you gotta get the book. There's something to say that I'm like, okay, okay, I'll get to it. It's just not top of mind right now.
Kulap Vilaisak
Yeah.
David Duchovny
But I did add to cart.
Kulap Vilaisak
You did add to cart. And there it is. I see it.
David Duchovny
What did you add?
Kulap Vilaisak
Okay, so my first add to cart is a two parter.
David Duchovny
Oh boy.
Kulap Vilaisak
I added a hand grip. What strength. Wait, wait, let me get the right. It's a digital hand strength measurement meter. Okay. 29.99. What you do is it has a Grip thing. And you can practice gripping with it. Because I have noticed in my old age that my hand strength, like, I can't open a bottle. Like, I can't, you know, open my can of yerba mate, which I buy in bulk anymore. I can't.
David Duchovny
You guys can't see this, but all of a sudden, it's as if Su Jin, like, her wrists are loose.
Kulap Vilaisak
So Luz. I can.
David Duchovny
Flinging her palms around as if I.
Kulap Vilaisak
Just swat at things. I swat at things, hoping that the momentum of my swats. So I started to look into. Can I do, like, hand exercises?
David Duchovny
Okay.
Kulap Vilaisak
But I was like, well, I'm going to do these hand exercises, but how do I know that any of it is working? Oh, get one with a meter. You know what I mean? Let's make this.
David Duchovny
Let's.
Kulap Vilaisak
You know what I'm talking about? Like, I don't got time. I don't have time to waste.
David Duchovny
I appreciate that. I didn't know that this was available to us. I didn't know that it's made by one of the most dependable Toyotas, the Camry.
Kulap Vilaisak
Listen, don't knock it. So you do this, right? And then you do the strength thing. You know, people have, like, exercise balls for this. And then you can measure how well you're doing.
David Duchovny
I mean, you're taking this to the next level, right? I just want to go back to the hand grip device. It says that it can go up to 198 pounds. Do you have a goal? What do we. We just want. We want to see improvement or do we have, like, I want to be able to grab 90 pounds.
Kulap Vilaisak
Like, I'm going to enter some sort of, like, strength contest? No, I want to be able to enjoy my life. I want to be able to open.
David Duchovny
I gotta back up a little bit. Okay. Yep, that's.
Kulap Vilaisak
That's.
David Duchovny
That's important. You want to be able to enjoy your life? Yes.
Kulap Vilaisak
I want to say, hey, I want to open up this pickle jar. I want to lift this vacuum cleaner. So I want to do all these things.
David Duchovny
We can't lift vacuum cleaners.
Kulap Vilaisak
No, not without pain. I'm telling you, this has been in the last, like, month. I even got like a. What do you call those? Like, wrist guards with ice packs in it. Like, I'm serious. And the thing about it is, guys, you laugh, you jest. Some of you may be on my train and you're immediately adding to cart. But there have been studies, many, many, many studies, okay. Where hand strength is equated to longevity.
David Duchovny
What never Heard of this? I've never heard of this.
Kulap Vilaisak
100%. There is a direct correlation between grip strength and long life. Many studies about this.
David Duchovny
All right, so everybody who's on Ninja Warrior is going to live to 100 plus years. Them on the salmon ladder, that spider.
Kulap Vilaisak
Wall and me flopping around here swatting at things. I want to be here long enough to see my daughter graduate middle school. You know what I mean?
David Duchovny
Okay, so this is for the kids.
Kulap Vilaisak
The kids.
David Duchovny
This is beyond.
Kulap Vilaisak
So what I wanted to say was that this could. I just bought this thing, this could end up in a box where my Kegel exercises ended up in 2000. And I want to say, let's see, probably 2016, I bought this joy on Kegel Exerciser.
David Duchovny
Okay. It looks scary. Soojin. It looks very scary. I sort of told.
Kulap Vilaisak
Let me tell you what it is.
David Duchovny
It looks like a goose.
Kulap Vilaisak
Joy on Kegel Exerciser with the app. Doctor recommended kegel balls for tightening pelvic floor. So in 2016, 17, I had just given birth to my second child. Liquid pouring out all the time, fluid. I can't tell you what. This is the truth.
David Duchovny
Sure.
Kulap Vilaisak
It's what happens. I mean, not just sneezing and jumping. I'm talking about. Hey, I'm washing the dishes. Oh, just peed my pants. So someone said you should do these Kegel exercises. But as you know now, like my grip strengthener, I need to know that this is actually working if I'm going to put in the effort. You put this thing, these two giant silicone balls, into your vagina. Then you do the Kegel exercises while you have an app up. Okay.
David Duchovny
Are we lighting a candle? Are we dimming the lights?
Kulap Vilaisak
What?
David Duchovny
I mean, this is.
Kulap Vilaisak
Picture this, me on the floor of my master bedroom. Now you have to have that antenna. That's an antenna.
David Duchovny
Ouch. The goose head is the antenna.
Kulap Vilaisak
So you kind of have to like shimmy your butt up towards your app, otherwise the Bluetooth won't pick up through your vaginal walls.
David Duchovny
Do you remember? And earlier, earlier, just mere minutes ago, you said that you don't put your vaginal things near your vagina. And I talked about the home edit and we went from wrist to Kegel strengthener. But go, continue. I don't mean to interrupt.
Kulap Vilaisak
Number one. Number two, how many times did I use this?
David Duchovny
Once.
Kulap Vilaisak
Once. That's correct. Exactly one edit. No, I didn't know I put it in. I did the exercise. You see, a little like. It's like a video game. You go up these mountains. Never made it up One thing, meaning when I tell you barely made it to the parking lot of the hike, and I took it out after I did the exercises, and I thought to myself at that moment, lying on my back with my tush in the air, and I thought, nothing will motivate me ever again to put these two giant silicone balls into my vagina. So I put it back in the box, and there it is. So you've learned some things about me, which is that in 2016, I was concerned about.
David Duchovny
You were concerned down there.
Kulap Vilaisak
And 20, 20, 20. I'm only concerned about your wrist, your hand grip. Do you see how things are moving upward?
David Duchovny
Did you. Did you stop being concerned about your pelvic floor and pelvic strength as soon as you boxed it up? Did you pursue it in any different way? Yeah. No. Okay.
Kulap Vilaisak
No. No, not at all. And I've shared this with you, and I'll share it with everyone here now. So I wear adult diapers when I go to the beach. I have every pair of Thinx, Spanx, kinks, winks, Nyx tanks, rinks, every pair of underwear that has been engineered to hold urine or other fluids. I own every single pair, every company I am first customer in, and I live with that.
David Duchovny
How do I know that you wear adult diapers? While we were together, we were taking photos for this podcast, and she just sort of casually mentioned to me that.
Kulap Vilaisak
Because it's casual, to me.
David Duchovny
That she had an hour and a half drive home and that she would be wearing a poise pad. And truly, it was as if she was like, I'm gonna listen to npr. It was this, like, just. That's. That's what she does. And then I had to ask more as you guys sitting at home or wherever you're at, maybe you're in your car, not wearing a poise pad right now.
Kulap Vilaisak
Right. And wishing you had a poised pad. Cause guess what? During pandemic times, you're gonna pull over and go to a public restroom. You're gonna go to a public restroom right now.
David Duchovny
And it was the evening, so your reasoning was sound. It was sound. But then we kept talking. And then you also shared that you wear them every time you're on a plane.
Kulap Vilaisak
Oh, yeah. I was like, cool up. You've never been on a plane. You sit down and you're on an active Runway getting ready for takeoff. Okay. And then they say, whatever, we're 88th in line. Or there's a but we're still in an active Runway. Everybody has to stay in their seats. And you're like 15, 30, 45 an hour. I have to go to the bathroom. If I get up, I don't know, they'll tackle me. So what do you, do you have a poise pad? Easy.
David Duchovny
They're not easy decisions. Such and poc. They're not gonna tackle you.
Kulap Vilaisak
Let me tell you this, cula. I am not a rule breaker, okay? If there's a rule, no matter how ridiculous the rule is, you'll stay. I will not break it. I would rather piss in my pants, sit in my urine for hours than break a pretend rule that may or may not be enforced. Correct. That's me. That's my life. Welcome.
David Duchovny
All right.
Kulap Vilaisak
And you're welcome because now people are gonna be. What is this poise pad? Look it up, guys. And now you know what to do.
David Duchovny
I've seen ads. Generally the actors and models they use are of a certain age. They're a blue haired variety. The lady is squatting. She's. She's gardening. What you use it for?
Kulap Vilaisak
You're welcome.
David Duchovny
You're like that. You're exactly like that lady who. That astronaut that was going crazy.
Kulap Vilaisak
That's right. She didn't have time.
David Duchovny
Well, certainly determined. I hate to call a woman crazy. She definitely was on a mission.
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David Duchovny
So that was a treat. You thought that there was two things that you were going to add to cart and really there was three.
Kulap Vilaisak
You're right.
David Duchovny
Let's review. Grip strengthener.
Kulap Vilaisak
Yes.
David Duchovny
Kegel Exerciser with App and Poise Pads.
Kulap Vilaisak
That kind of, when you put it all together like that, that soothes me. You know it does.
David Duchovny
It is the Su and Puck.
Kulap Vilaisak
Yeah.
David Duchovny
Collection.
Kulap Vilaisak
That's right. You know what if I had like, you know how they have those boxes, those subscription boxes.
David Duchovny
Yes.
Kulap Vilaisak
If I had a subscription box service that this is what you would get. You would get all these three things.
David Duchovny
Yeah. Yeah. And then I also imagine, you know, there's always in magazines, they're like, they have celebrities and they're like, what's in your bag? And if we open Suchin Park's bag, just these gadgets and these poise pads.
Kulap Vilaisak
Because I like to track my progress. I don't know about you and everybody else, how much time you have in your life.
David Duchovny
Yes, you're right. I'm moving through life akimbo and willy nilly and I really need to focus up.
Kulap Vilaisak
Okay, cool. Are we.
David Duchovny
Are we doing more ads?
Kulap Vilaisak
Yeah. Cool.
David Duchovny
One more. One more add to cart for me.
Kulap Vilaisak
Okay.
David Duchovny
Are you. Do you do the TikTok? Suchin, are you a TikTok person?
Kulap Vilaisak
I know of TikTok. I've seen TikTok when people post it on their Instagrams, but I have not actually been to the app. But yes, I know of TikTok.
David Duchovny
There is, you know, there's a lot of dances that gets spread through TikTok.
Kulap Vilaisak
Okay.
David Duchovny
And my friend Casey, her 40th birthday is coming up. And so all of our close friends, we've been secretly learning the wap dance that originated in TikTok so that we may perform it for her.
Kulap Vilaisak
Now, from the top, make a drop. That's some wet ass pussy. Now get a bucket in her mouth. That's some good wet ass. I'm talking.
David Duchovny
And so we've had various zoom practices.
Kulap Vilaisak
Wait, wait a minute. You are going to do this dance?
David Duchovny
We're going to do this dance.
Kulap Vilaisak
But you're.
David Duchovny
I just want to tell you that I have to modify it. We're an older body. There's creeks, there's cracks. The flexibility is not what it used to be. Let's just say that. So we are. We can't do the splits at the end is what I'm trying to tell you.
Kulap Vilaisak
Cool up. People don't know this. I don't know if many people know this about you, but you are so fit and physically. What is the word I'm looking for? Just like, you're very coordinated.
David Duchovny
A beast of bird. Oh, okay. That's nicer. I like that.
Kulap Vilaisak
Like, did you do athletics in high school? Like, are you from an athletic family?
David Duchovny
You know, not. I mean, I. I did do step team. Yeah.
Kulap Vilaisak
So there you go.
David Duchovny
Did step team. And I also did some cross country running. And then just of the last sort of decade plus, I've done like kickboxing.
Kulap Vilaisak
Yeah.
David Duchovny
So that's sort of like my fun. Yeah, I'm real sturdy. It's a very sturdy. I'm very strong. I got strong thighs. I was about to say, I'M a beast of burden. You know, some people I'm, you know, I'm in the fields. You know what I mean? Like, that's like my mode.
Kulap Vilaisak
You're in the fields.
David Duchovny
I mean, the fields.
Kulap Vilaisak
What fields? What fields? I've seen your house. Okay, what. What fields? Not actually.
David Duchovny
I meant in mind.
Kulap Vilaisak
Oh, in mind. You were in the fields.
David Duchovny
Of what? Of rice patties, of flowers. I'm a water buffalo, Lord. You're a water buffalo.
Kulap Vilaisak
Oh, my God. I'm a water buffalo is what in your mind.
David Duchovny
I'm trying to say in my mind. So. But it. Doing this dance has challenged me and it has started to. I haven't been doing a lot of exercising during the pandemic, and it has gotten me to get back to body movement. And it's actually especially doing it on Zoom with friends has brought me a lot of joy.
Kulap Vilaisak
Oh, my God, that must be so much fun. That's actually a Zoom I can get down with.
David Duchovny
And it's just like June. Oh, my God. I love what you. Yeah, pop that ass. Okay. Maddie. I love what you. Yeah, look at the camera. It's just so. It's just joy. It's so fun.
Kulap Vilaisak
Oh, my.
David Duchovny
And I wanna tell you that we're doing so Wap is the finale. Casey. My good friend Casey Wilson, she's a big Dolly fan. And so we're doing a song called Travelin through, which is a Dolly song.
Kulap Vilaisak
I'm just traveling, traveling, traveling I'm just traveling through.
David Duchovny
And then it shifts, takes a hard left into walk.
Kulap Vilaisak
We have really run the gamut on vaginas so far. Just it. We didn't plan it this way.
David Duchovny
I think we are actually mainly talking about moist vaginas.
Kulap Vilaisak
I know it is, but they're two different moistures. You know what I mean? They're two different kinds of moisture.
David Duchovny
Because when you're in your poise, you're a traveling wet ass pussy.
Kulap Vilaisak
Oh, God. Now that you put it that way. That's disgusting. Okay, moving on. What's our next segment?
David Duchovny
Let us talk about remove from cards.
Kulap Vilaisak
It's the stuff that we either don't want or. Or don't buy into anymore or whatever it is stuff we don't want in our lives.
David Duchovny
And we thought we did at one point, and then it changed, so we removed from cart. So I'll start. I attended a Jane Club Zoom event. What is Jane Club? Jane Club is this awesome matriarchal oasis that. Full disclosure, I am a founding member investor of. When it started over a year ago, it was A workspace for women and there was childcare. Now it's moving to an awesome digital space. And it's great. And in this digital space there was a event. It was a zoom event. It was confidence on camera with stylist Lori Brucker, model Kamala K. And special guest June Diane Raphael. And I was like, yeah, you know what? I need to, like, I need, I want to be confident, I'll be confident. And like, yeah, you're right. I don't know how to pose like.
Kulap Vilaisak
A, like paparazzi pose. Like red carpet pose.
David Duchovny
Red carpet poses. But also like digital photos for like social media content. Just like what? And the stylist talked about like clothing that would be better for certain bodies. You know, I'm top heavy, I'm short necked. I, you know, am a majestic water buffalo. You heard this before, Just a sexy, sensual water buffalo. Sleek and confident. That's what I'm at. Right. So I walked away with some tips and I boldly added the below to cart, which was a canvas drop cloth.
Kulap Vilaisak
Because I'm just trying to figure out why you've suddenly felt pressured to have so many photo shoots.
David Duchovny
I felt like I needed it. Also, not one Bluetooth camera remote, but four. And so cut to. I tried the remote shutter once.
Kulap Vilaisak
Please tell me there's photos. Please tell me there's photos.
David Duchovny
No, because they were horrible. They didn't look right. I didn't understand. Part of it is because I don't know how to set up my phone in the ring light. And then I was like, ah, this is weird. I don't know when I'll try this again. And the drop cloth is still in its packaging because I'm like, where? What do I put the drop cloth on? That was the thing. I was like, what? Oh, like I don't have.
Kulap Vilaisak
Oh, you were like full on committing to like an at home studio to take photos of yourself.
David Duchovny
That's right.
Kulap Vilaisak
By the way, your confidence, I mean a hundred. Do you know what I mean? Your fucking view of yourself, your fabulous.
David Duchovny
A hundred.
Kulap Vilaisak
That's what this tells me.
David Duchovny
And I think what we're gonna start to kind of showcase is that I'm more somebody who will buy first and even not think later.
Kulap Vilaisak
Like, you don't return these things. Because I return everything. Even if I like it, I'm like, you know what? Just in case, in a week from now, I don't like it, let me return it.
David Duchovny
I should really return that drop cloth. Like there's some things where I'm just like, wow, is that worth returning.
Kulap Vilaisak
Yeah.
David Duchovny
If, like I'm buying clothes, I'll buy extra, try things on, return it. But stuff that is like little like this.
Kulap Vilaisak
Yeah.
David Duchovny
Which, this is how Amazon is just so lucky with me. I'm like, what's the point? Like, what's the point when this is like nine bucks is the thought process I have. But then I'm like, well, the drop cloth. What if I get into painting, maybe I'll use it.
Kulap Vilaisak
Then I feel like though the drop cloth, like, I'm okay with that. Like, yeah, one should have a drop cloth. A drop cloth. You know, you own a home, you have a beautiful family, you, you're a working woman, you're a self assured woman and you should have a drop.
David Duchovny
Budding photographer.
Kulap Vilaisak
You never know. Yeah, budding photographer. You are DIY painting something, putting up acrylic containers and filling them with colored shit.
David Duchovny
But remove from card. Remove from cart. In the end, I don't need any of it. Remove from card.
Kulap Vilaisak
Well, you don't need any of it because it just was too much trouble.
David Duchovny
Well, yeah, it's also like, I'm not taking photos of myself.
Kulap Vilaisak
That was my number one question that I like wanted to ask but held back. Like, I'm one of those people that just like every part of me wants to run out of a room when there's a camera, you know what I mean? Like, pointed at me.
David Duchovny
Oh, you're so photogenic though, I think also because you and I have taken photos for this very podcast that we're talking about right now. But prior to it, I was like, all my photos are old. I also change my look all of the time, which doesn't help.
Kulap Vilaisak
Yeah.
David Duchovny
I was like, oh, yeah, okay, I'll take my own photos. That was a thought. And then I took one photo. I was like, oh, no, but that, but no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Kulap Vilaisak
But that makes sense because you know when you get invited to see speak on panels or you're doing this, you know you want an updated picture of yourself. So you thought, well, it's the time of the Corons, so I can't go out and invite a photographer. Like, let me do it myself. Like, you're a grown working woman, so I totally get that. What? Where I, I was confused was like imagining you having like photo shoots, like editorials in your living room. I was like, huh, that's, that's.
David Duchovny
And that's what I pictured. Like, I'll set up in my living room. I'll just. I don't need to bother. Like, Scott doesn't have to be a part of this. I have a remote control. It'll be fine.
Kulap Vilaisak
You have four.
David Duchovny
Yeah, four. If he's not around, I put in both hands. I'm like, you know, I'm double fixing.
Kulap Vilaisak
Snapping away.
David Duchovny
Yeah.
Kulap Vilaisak
Being away.
David Duchovny
And every photo is great, you know, and then it's like, no, by the way, all the photos that I'm talking about that I had are old. Were all professional. They're not some idiot with her phone.
Kulap Vilaisak
And a drop cloth.
David Duchovny
Yeah. And like, the model was like, hey, you know what? It's better if you don't do it front facing, camera, back facing. I was like, oh, yeah, that's why you got it. Okay, that makes sense. That totally makes sense. Again, she's a model.
Kulap Vilaisak
Exactly. Taking advice about taking pictures of yourself from a model is where you went wrong. Step one.
David Duchovny
I mean, and I. And I should have known it when she was like, do the move where you cross in front of your chest like you're a boss. And when I do it, my tits are just major obstacles. And so it's just a. You know, it's not natural.
Kulap Vilaisak
They're not obstacles for everyone.
David Duchovny
Well, it's not. When I do it, it's not commanding. It looks like I am the genie from Aladdin. And so it's.
Kulap Vilaisak
That wasn't the pose for you.
David Duchovny
It wasn't the pose for me. And when I say that it's totally body positive. It is. Again, just a sexy, sleek, blue genie from Aladdin voiced by the late and great Robin Williams. Anyways, so, like, yeah, so. Remove from cart. Remove from cart. I'm not a photographer. I'm not gonna take photos of myself.
Kulap Vilaisak
You're not a genie in a bottle.
David Duchovny
Remove from cart.
Kulap Vilaisak
You're gonna remove that part.
David Duchovny
I'm not.
Kulap Vilaisak
Okay.
David Duchovny
How about you? Do you have something else that you took out of your cart?
Kulap Vilaisak
I don't want to spend too much time on this. Removed from cart. But, man, I could do a whole episode. And I feel like we should do a full episode on this.
David Duchovny
Oh, I want to hear.
Kulap Vilaisak
I'm removing from cart Everyone who thinks that I have to respond to texts and voicemails because we're stuck at home.
David Duchovny
Oh, yes.
Kulap Vilaisak
That's what I'm removing from cart. Like, I've always been that way. But now, especially because we're all stuck at home, people have a certain sen. Sense of, like, a different expectation that, like, you are on call at all times and that there's no reason why you should ever not respond to a text or a Voicemail. And it drives me nuts.
David Duchovny
Well, because that, that point of view is incorrect.
Kulap Vilaisak
It is incorrect. And also, I mean, unless I'm invoicing you for my time, like, no, you cannot tell me when to text you back. That's the thing I'm removing from cart. I've always had a difficult time with responding to emails and texts and phone calls. I think you have seen some of that and we're friends because it doesn't bother you and there's no offense taken. I just, I don't want to be on someone's time. Like it sucks.
David Duchovny
Yeah. Which is so wild because we're all. Here's the thing, we're all in similar situations and even if you don't have kids, you know that people with kids, they were always playing multiple roles but having to like teach their kids and like, so there's just. You're doing. Everyone, especially women are doing so much more during this quarantine.
Kulap Vilaisak
Yeah.
David Duchovny
On top of the full time job that they had already. It's just like to me is like the audacity to even.
Kulap Vilaisak
But it's the same way. This is why I have a really, really love, mostly hate relationship with social media. Because to me that's just another way that people feel, feel like they can message you and require and expect a response back. So I'm going to get to a point in my life and it's going to happen very soon. I already have a landline and that's going to be it.
David Duchovny
Wow.
Kulap Vilaisak
Wow. Let me tell you, it's on my vision board and it's going to happen soon. I know that I will have reached a certain point in my life when the only way you can get a hold of me is by calling into a voicemail service that I call into once a week. Once a week to get my, to.
David Duchovny
Get my voicemails once a week. Your voicemail is almost like a P.O. box.
Kulap Vilaisak
Yes, yes. I want the P.O. box version of a phone. I mean I want a woman to answer and be like, hi, Sujin Park's voicemail service, can I take your call? And then you'll leave a message and she'll remember when they used to have that and they dictate it.
David Duchovny
Wait, you want a lady?
Kulap Vilaisak
I want a lady.
David Duchovny
It's not even just a voicemail. You want, you want an old timey Mad Men style lady who has to.
Kulap Vilaisak
That's right here.
David Duchovny
And plug over there.
Kulap Vilaisak
Oh yeah. And I'm gonna interview my voicemail lady because she's gonna be sassy. She's gonna be judgmental. She's gonna have a tone of like, are you sure? Because electronic voicemails you can just bypass and leave willy nilly. But what if you got my voicemail lady? And she was like, what? And you're like, oh, hi, I'm sorry. I'm trying to leave a voicemail message for Sujin. Okay. You sure? Oh, okay. Yeah. Because, you know, she doesn't really check this thing very much. Oh, okay. Yeah, I still. Yeah, I think I. I do. All right. All right, well, if you're sure. All right, hold on. Let me find a pen.
David Duchovny
She doesn't have a pen ready.
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This is her job.
Kulap Vilaisak
What else is she doing? This is her job is making it really fucking difficult.
David Duchovny
All right, so she's so. She's acting too. She's really putting this. She's milking this.
Kulap Vilaisak
Yeah. Like, I want you to really think about whether you need to talk to me or not. Yeah, I do. I do.
David Duchovny
Yeah. And she could be like, listen, if you got something to say and you just need someone to hear it, I'm here too. Yeah.
Kulap Vilaisak
I don't have to take a message. I get paid by. I get paid by the call, you.
David Duchovny
Know, so go ahead.
Kulap Vilaisak
I'm accepting applications for disgruntled voicemail takers. But that's just where I'm at. But that's me. That's just where I'm at. I mean, is that terrible?
David Duchovny
But I understand. I do understand it. I get it.
Kulap Vilaisak
Do you?
David Duchovny
I do get it. Because in this household, we are so plugged in. We're just. And we're too plugged in. And so I do feel that that is an extreme. But I. I understand the need to be, you know, a little bit more old fashioned.
Kulap Vilaisak
Yeah.
David Duchovny
For sanity. Yeah, yeah, I get it. I get it. You know, I spend way too much time on my phone and we'll get into this. We'll get into this later.
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David Duchovny
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Kulap Vilaisak
Me because I hear the.
David Duchovny
It was that horrible feeling of dread. Something's wrong.
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Kulap Vilaisak
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David Duchovny
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Kulap Vilaisak
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David Duchovny
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Kulap Vilaisak
Yes. However, listen, 20,000Amazon employees have tested positive for Covid. Right. And the company is still not taking steps to protect those workers. And to date, almost like 200,000 shops have gone out of business while Amazon profits have soared. So these are just some of the reasons we're going to try really hard in this show, right, to provide alternate.
David Duchovny
Options because Jeff Bezos is doing more than fine.
Kulap Vilaisak
So fine.
David Duchovny
That being said, I say that, but we of course understand how convenient it is to shop at Amazon, especially during lockdown. I'm very conditioned to expect that my shit will arrive immediately. And I'm looking around here and I'm seeing things I've bought from Amazon, including these mic stands from Amazon, SD cards and my zoom recorder. Amazon, this telescopic bear claw back scratcher. Oh, you guessed it, Suchinpak, it's from Amazon.
Kulap Vilaisak
It just, it extends to such a reach there. Are you scratching other people with that or just yourself?
David Duchovny
Well, yes, I'm also bothering Scott with it. He is constantly swatting this away as it slowly approaches him from odd angles.
Kulap Vilaisak
So what have we learned here?
David Duchovny
That I'm a weirdo.
Kulap Vilaisak
That we're both weirdos and we both enjoy each other's weirdness. And also we're just trying to be more conscious consumers.
David Duchovny
Yeah, we're not perfect, but we'll try.
Kulap Vilaisak
I'm a little perfect, but not.
David Duchovny
Yeah, yeah, I'm left of the middle, as they say. Well, looking at the time, we should probably wrap it up by giving our five star review of the week. What's your five star Review.
Kulap Vilaisak
So mine is a little bit surprising. Culotte. Because as you know, while I love skincare and I'm obsessed with skin care, I believe 99% of skin care is such a scam.
David Duchovny
I can't wait to really dive into this with you because I know you're right, and yet it is a big part of my life. Continue.
Kulap Vilaisak
Yeah. And by the way, I'm right, and I still buy everything and I try everything, but I'm not going to recommend it unless it actually works. This. What is this? This is a brand. It's pronounced naturium. And it's a new brand launched by this, like, I guess, beauty influencer named Susan Yara. Do you. Do you ever follow her? I love her.
David Duchovny
Oh, I. I will. I'll add to cart. I. I'd like to know.
Kulap Vilaisak
Add to cart. She's great. I love everything about her. So, anyway, so this is a BHA liquid exfoliant, 2%. So basically, it's kind of like a toner.
David Duchovny
Okay.
Kulap Vilaisak
And you put it on and then it's like a peel.
David Duchovny
Okay.
Kulap Vilaisak
Right. And you put on your serums and your moisturizers after that. And I would say use this once a week, twice if you've got more oily skin. Like, I'm always impressed by products that give you, like, immediate results. And it's very zero fuss, and it's very affordable. Like, this bottle will probably last me a year. And it's 20. $20.
David Duchovny
That's nice.
Kulap Vilaisak
And the ingredient list is great. And I tried this for the first time. And after I did this with the cotton wipe, it was as if like a ring light had gone on in my bathroom. Like, it just. Really? Yeah.
David Duchovny
Where are you buying it? Are you buying it directly from their website?
Kulap Vilaisak
Yeah. Naturium. I don't know. You can. If you can get it anywhere else, I would highly recommend it. I know you and I are both sort of like skin care obsessed. It just was one of those things where I, like, immediately, the first time I used it, I was like, oh, my God, I totally notice a difference. Like, a huge difference.
David Duchovny
I'm in for a tune up here because I think I've been using for the last three, four years, I've been doing the Korean 10 Steps Skincare. Now, of course, I'm not always doing those 10 steps and even sometimes I forget to jig one anyways, but I'm at the point where it's not. I was saying to you, it's not mindful, and I don't even know.
Kulap Vilaisak
Yeah.
David Duchovny
What is Working. I'm just doing all of them. And I'm assuming the sum of it is the sum of everything I'm using is effective. But per product. Couldn't tell you. Couldn't tell you.
Kulap Vilaisak
I'm all about like, I only use things that work and that work for me. I'm not saying I have no idea if this will work for you. Like if I don't see results in a pretty quick. I'm. That's it. It's off. It's not in rotation. You know what I mean? Like, I just. So anyway, so this is it. This was my product. Five star review of the week. I was very pleasantly surprised and I'm curious to see if. If you add to Cart how you like it and what about you? Cool up. What's your five star review?
David Duchovny
I will say that getting back into podcasting after taking a break in February 2018, I'm so excited to be doing this podcast with. With Asian American icon Suchin Pak and Lemonada, of course. And this has come together oddly like a lazy river. Like it was a lazy river for the longest time and we were just like chilling out, cracking open a beer.
Kulap Vilaisak
Yeah, that's how good things all come together. It should be a lazy river.
David Duchovny
Lazy river that at some point started to. The wrap has started to break and then we just fully committed to, you know, just going over the waterfall into this podcast.
Kulap Vilaisak
Just a free fall.
David Duchovny
Just a free fall.
Kulap Vilaisak
Have no idea if there will be a body of water to catch us at the bottom of it, but here we go.
David Duchovny
Here we are.
Kulap Vilaisak
We're in free fall.
David Duchovny
We're flying. So I'm a five star review to add to Cart. And while we're saying that, I mean wherever you rate your podcast, if you could rate and review. Oh my God, I encourage it. I encourage.
Kulap Vilaisak
You are such a pro. You just slipped right into that. That's not even in our script. That's like, that's muscle memory that you. You slipped into.
David Duchovny
That's true, I guess. You know, I guess. I guess it is just like riding a bike. Podcasting.
Kulap Vilaisak
What a skill. Just surviving in the wild, you know.
David Duchovny
Okay, Soojin, I think that brings us to the end of episode one.
Kulap Vilaisak
Yes. So thanks everyone for listening. If you want to see photos of everything we talked about, head to our Instagram to Cartpod.
David Duchovny
You'll also find links to buy everything there as well. And we'll be back next week with more things to add to Cart.
Kulap Vilaisak
Add to Cart is a production of Lemonada Media. Our producer is Claire Jones and Our editor is Bill Lance. Theme music is by Wasabi and produced by LA Made it and oh so Familiar with additional music by APM Music. Executive producers are Kulap Balaisak, Sujin Pak, Jessica Cordova Kramer and Stephanie Whittles. Wax.
David Duchovny
Be sure to check out all the items we mentioned today on our Instagram dtocartpod. Also, take a moment to rate, review and subscribe to the show. Wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Nicole Norfleet. And I'm Erin Brown and we work at the Minnesota Star Tribune and we've.
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Episode Summary: Add to Cart with Kulap Vilaysack & SuChin Pak
Episode Title: The Best of Add to Cart: Salvaging Christmas with Poise (Pads), a Kegel Goose, and a Majestic Water Buffalo
Release Date: July 1, 2025
In the premiere episode of "Add to Cart," hosts Kulap Vilaysack and SuChin Pak delve into the intricate relationship between consumerism and personal well-being. They explore what they choose to invest in—both monetarily and emotionally—and what they decide to discard, shedding light on their evolving identities and priorities.
The episode opens with a heartfelt discussion about navigating the complexities of celebrating Christmas during unprecedented times. David Duchovny, a guest on the show, shares his yearning for traditional holiday coziness despite current constraints.
Key Points:
Holiday Preparations: David reveals his purchase of matching Mickey and Minnie Mouse Christmas gingerbread pajamas for his family and pets, emphasizing a desire for warmth and togetherness ([02:45]-[04:05]).
David Duchovny ([02:45]): "I just really am wanting that feeling of the holidays right now."
Emotional Impact: Both hosts express their emotional struggles with the altered holiday season. David admits to feeling deeply saddened by the inability to host his usual holiday gatherings.
David Duchovny ([05:16]): "I really wanna be clear that I'm sad. I am very, very sad."
Kulap’s Perspective: Kulap shares her conflicted feelings about the holidays, torn between her love for Christmas and the current challenges that make the season feel overwhelming.
Kulap Vilaysack ([05:29]): "I sort of am, like, sad. Like, I don't. You know what I mean?"
1. Matching Christmas Pajamas ([02:45]-[04:05]) David discusses his purchase of festive pajamas designed for family bonding and creating a cozy holiday atmosphere.
2. Grip Strengthener ([13:38]-[16:04]) Kulap introduces a digital hand strength measurement meter aimed at improving grip strength, highlighting the importance of physical health.
Kulap Vilaysack ([16:27]): "There is a direct correlation between grip strength and long life."
3. Kegel Exerciser with App ([16:55]-[19:55]) Kulap candidly talks about her journey with pelvic floor issues post-childbirth and her attempts to address them using a Kegel exerciser.
Kulap Vilaysack ([17:32]): "I couldn't tell you what. This is the truth."
4. Poise Pads ([19:55]-[23:00]) Kulap explains her consistent use of Poise pads to manage incontinence, especially during long journeys and flights, advocating for practical solutions to personal challenges.
Kulap Vilaysack ([21:07]): "Everyone is gonna be... using their Poise pads."
5. Digital Hand Strength Measurement Meter ([13:38]-[16:04]) Kulap emphasizes the tool's utility in tracking and improving hand strength, which she ties to overall longevity and quality of life.
Kulap Vilaysack ([16:46]): "I want to see improvement or do we have, like, I want to be able to grab 90 pounds."
1. "The Home Edit" Book and Netflix Series ([08:03]-[13:16]) David admits to adding "The Home Edit" series and book to his cart, inspired by societal trends towards organization. However, Kulap expresses her disapproval, criticizing the show's superficial approach to home organization.
Kulap Vilaysack ([11:02]): "They put everything in clear containers by color, which is not a way to organize a home."
2. Subscription to Jane Club Zoom Event ([32:20]-[39:30]) David shares his experience attending a virtual confidence-building event, leading to impulsive purchases like a canvas drop cloth and multiple camera remotes. Both hosts reflect on the challenges of self-presentation and the realities of DIY projects.
Kulap Vilaysack ([34:05]): "Because I'm just trying to figure out why you've suddenly felt pressured to have so many photo shoots."
3. Managing Digital Communication Expectations ([39:36]-[44:40]) Kulap discusses her decision to remove the expectation of instant responses to texts and voicemails, advocating for healthier boundaries and mental well-being.
Kulap Vilaysack ([39:44]): "I've always had a difficult time with responding to emails and texts and phone calls."
The conversation delves into the hosts' efforts to become more mindful consumers, balancing the convenience of platforms like Amazon with ethical considerations and personal needs.
David Duchovny ([46:20]): "Jeff Bezos is doing more than fine."
Kulap Vilaysack ([47:37]): "We're both weirdos and we both enjoy each other's weirdness. And also we're just trying to be more conscious consumers."
1. Kulap’s Review – Naturium BHA Liquid Exfoliant ([48:10]-[50:04]) Kulap shares her enthusiasm for Naturium's BHA Liquid Exfoliant, praising its effectiveness and affordability. She highlights its immediate results and excellent ingredient list.
Kulap Vilaysack ([48:22]): "I was very pleasantly surprised and I'm curious to see if... you like it and what about you?"
2. David’s Review – Launching the Podcast ([51:07]-[52:16]) David expresses his excitement about returning to podcasting, lauding the collaboration with Kulap and the seamless flow of their conversations.
David Duchovny ([51:07]): "I'm so excited to be doing this podcast with Asian American icon Suchin Pak and Lemonada, of course."
The episode concludes with the hosts encouraging listeners to engage with their content on Instagram and to provide reviews and ratings. They emphasize the importance of conscious consumerism and hint at future discussions on maintaining personal well-being through mindful shopping.
Kulap Vilaysack ([52:50]): "You'll also find links to buy everything there as well. And we'll be back next week with more things to add to Cart."
Key Takeaways:
This episode serves as a foundation for the podcast, setting the tone for honest and reflective conversations about consumer choices and their deeper implications on personal and societal levels.