Most no-code tools give you an MVP. Woz wants to give you a business.On this episode of Agentic, I was joined by Ben Collins and Brad Eckert, co-founders of Woz, an AI platform that lets anyone build real, scalable web and mobile products with zero coding. Think Shopify, but for launching operational SaaS startups.If you’re in the early innings of building something in AI, especially if you’re figuring things out from first principles—let’s chat. Connect with us here:1. Woz: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/withwoz/2. Ben Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bentcollins/3. Brad Eckert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chefeckert/4. George Bandarian: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian5. ⁠⁠Untapped Ventures:⁠ ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventuresThey break down:• Why shipping your MVP is just 1% of the journey—and what the other 99% really looks like• The difference between vibe coding, AI engineering, and real startup durability• What they learned from going thro...