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The American Health Law Association (AHLA) is the largest nonprofit, nonpartisan educational organization devoted to legal issues in the health care field. AHLA's Speaking of Health Law podcasts offer thoughtful analysis and insightful commentary on the legal and policy issues affecting the American health care system.

Rob Gerberry, Senior Vice President and Chief Legal Officer, Summa Health, speaks with Michael Peregrine about how to effectively separate a problematic or disruptive director from board service. They discuss common traits of problematic directors, issues with the power of removal and “for cause” requirements, options available to the board apart from removal, ensuring board understanding of expectations for director conduct, and the concepts of “offboarding” and “fitness to serve.”Watch this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UncbhNabZ20Essential Legal Updates, Now in AudioAHLA's popular Health Law Daily email newsletter is now a daily podcast, exclusively for AHLA Comprehensive members. Get all your health law news from the major media outlets on this podcast! To subscribe and add this private podcast feed to your podcast app, go to americanhealthlaw.org/dailypodcast.Stay At the Forefront of Health Legal EducationLearn more about AHLA and the educational resources available to the health law community at https://www.americanhealthlaw.org/.

Joe Wolfe, Attorney, Hall Render Killian Heath & Lyman PC, speaks with Charles Oppenheim, Partner, Hooper Lundy & Bookman PC, about the current landscape surrounding the Physician Self-Referral Law, also known as the Stark Law. They discuss why the Stark Law is so complex and the kinds of issues that attorneys face in this area, how CMS has introduced more flexibility under Stark and ways that health care organizations can incorporate these new flexibilities into their contracting policies, best practices for analyzing arrangements that may overlap with other areas of the law, CMS’ efforts to clarify the “Big 3,” and issues related to value-based exceptions. Charles is the co-author of AHLA’s The Stark Law: Comprehensive Analysis and Practical Guide, Eighth Edition. From AHLA's Fraud and Abuse and Hospitals and Health Systems Practice Groups.Watch this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O2jbkASdfYLearn more about The Stark Law: Comprehensive Analysis and Practical Guide, Eighth Edition: https://store.lexisnexis.com/ahla/products/ahla-the-stark-law-comprehensive-analysis-and-practical-guide-ahla-members-grpussku59066.html Learn more about AHLA’s Fraud and Abuse Practice Group: https://www.americanhealthlaw.org/practice-groups/practice-groups/fraud-and-abuse Learn more about AHLA’s Hospitals and Health Systems Practice Group: https://www.americanhealthlaw.org/practice-groups/practice-groups/hospitals-and-health-systems Essential Legal Updates, Now in AudioAHLA's popular Health Law Daily email newsletter is now a daily podcast, exclusively for AHLA Comprehensive members. Get all your health law news from the major media outlets on this podcast! To subscribe and add this private podcast feed to your podcast app, go to americanhealthlaw.org/dailypodcast.Stay At the Forefront of Health Legal EducationLearn more about AHLA and the educational resources available to the health law community at https://www.americanhealthlaw.org/.

Andrew Mahler, Vice President of Privacy and Compliance Services, Clearwater, speaks with David Peloquin, Partner, Ropes & Gray LLP, about the emergence of agentic artificial intelligence (AI) in the health care industry and the accompanying legal and regulatory challenges. They discuss how agentic AI differs from earlier forms of AI, why this difference is legally meaningful in health care, some of the significant use cases that are being observed, the state legal and regulatory landscape, issues related to federal preemption and what a durable “patchwork” might look like, enforcement risks and how health care organizations should respond, and the core elements of an effective AI governance framework that can adapt to the changing legal and regulatory environment. David recently co-authored an article in Health Law Weekly about this topic. Sponsored by Clearwater.Watch this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1Tmqe86Pd8Read David’s article: https://www.americanhealthlaw.org/content-library/health-law-weekly/article/972e61f2-05a0-487d-987e-38c8b40b4dde/Paging-Dr-Algorithm-Navigating-the-Regulatory-Land Learn more about Clearwater: https://clearwatersecurity.com/ Essential Legal Updates, Now in AudioAHLA's popular Health Law Daily email newsletter is now a daily podcast, exclusively for AHLA Comprehensive members. Get all your health law news from the major media outlets on this podcast! To subscribe and add this private podcast feed to your podcast app, go to americanhealthlaw.org/dailypodcast.Stay At the Forefront of Health Legal EducationLearn more about AHLA and the educational resources available to the health law community at https://www.americanhealthlaw.org/.

Rob Yates, Managing Consultant, BRG, speaks with Emily Palmer, Partner, McDermott Will & Schulte, Hassan Shaikh, Associate, Mintz Levin Cohn Ferris Glovsky and Popeo PC, and Tyler Dysart, Associate, King & Spalding LLP, about how to survive and thrive at large law firms. They discuss what drew them to health law and the large law firm setting, the pros and cons of life at a large law firm, what a typical day is like and workload volume, and the skillsets that are crucial to success. They also delve into how junior attorneys can navigate the complex hierarchical teams that are prevalent at large law firms, the challenges that new attorneys face in this setting and how they can approach delegating, how to develop subject matter expertise and grow a network, how billable hour expectations impact development and well‑being, and what they wish they had known during their first year. From AHLA’s Early Career Professionals Council.Watch this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sUU7vYUG4MEssential Legal Updates, Now in AudioAHLA's popular Health Law Daily email newsletter is now a daily podcast, exclusively for AHLA Comprehensive members. Get all your health law news from the major media outlets on this podcast! To subscribe and add this private podcast feed to your podcast app, go to americanhealthlaw.org/dailypodcast.Stay At the Forefront of Health Legal EducationLearn more about AHLA and the educational resources available to the health law community at https://www.americanhealthlaw.org/.

The 2026 Medicare Physician Fee Schedule (MPFS) final rule provides insight into how the current administration is thinking about value-based reimbursement. Adam Laughton, Shareholder, Greenberg Traurig LLP, speaks with Alex Kirkland, Senior Vice President, Coker Group, about the trajectory of value-based reimbursement and what is happening in traditional Medicare under the 2026 MPFS. They discuss issues related to alternative payment models (APMs) and conversion factors, steps that providers need to take to qualify as an APM (including investments in electronic health records and an analysis of costs versus benefits), and compliance considerations. Alex recently co-authored an article in Health Law Connections magazine about this topic. From AHLA’s Physician Organizations Practice Group.Watch this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-ZCaG-clNIRead the Health Law Connections article: https://www.americanhealthlaw.org/content-library/connections-magazine/article/6e583147-a398-42ab-85c6-293440c564da/Review-of-the-Challenges-and-Requirements-of-BecomLearn more about AHLA’s Physician Organizations Practice Group: https://www.americanhealthlaw.org/practice-groups/practice-groups/physician-organizations Essential Legal Updates, Now in AudioAHLA's popular Health Law Daily email newsletter is now a daily podcast, exclusively for AHLA Comprehensive members. Get all your health law news from the major media outlets on this podcast! To subscribe and add this private podcast feed to your podcast app, go to americanhealthlaw.org/dailypodcast.Stay At the Forefront of Health Legal EducationLearn more about AHLA and the educational resources available to the health law community at https://www.americanhealthlaw.org/.

CMS’ Health Technology Ecosystem Initiative (HTE) is an ambitious effort announced by the White House and CMS to modernize the nation’s digital health infrastructure and expand data sharing beyond traditional clinical settings into the broader health and wellness ecosystem. At the center of this initiative is the CMS Interoperability Framework, which builds on prior federal interoperability efforts and emphasizes standardized data exchange, defined participant roles, secure and privacy-respecting data sharing, and patient-centric access. Ann Tiffany, Compliance Consultant, Clearwater, speaks with Melissa Soliz, Partner, Coppersmith Brockelman, and David Lee, Principal, Leavitt Partners, about what the HTE means for privacy, data governance, stakeholder obligations, enforcement, and liability risk. An AHLA Bulletin was published that explores this topic. From AHLA’s Health Information and Technology Practice Group. Sponsored by Clearwater.Watch this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo336Nt9Tg4Read the AHLA Bulletin: https://www.americanhealthlaw.org/content-library/publications/bulletins/02d2b6d5-7394-4598-be58-aeead87c363f/Legal-Perspectives-for-Health-Care-Attorneys-on-th Learn more about AHLA’s Health Information and Technology Practice Group: https://www.americanhealthlaw.org/practice-groups/practice-groups/health-information-and-technologyLearn more about Clearwater: https://clearwatersecurity.com/ Essential Legal Updates, Now in AudioAHLA's popular Health Law Daily email newsletter is now a daily podcast, exclusively for AHLA Comprehensive members. Get all your health law news from the major media outlets on this podcast! To subscribe and add this private podcast feed to your podcast app, go to americanhealthlaw.org/dailypodcast.Stay At the Forefront of Health Legal EducationLearn more about AHLA and the educational resources available to the health law community at https://www.americanhealthlaw.org/.

Governmental investigations can strike anxiety into any health care organization. Richard Merino, Managing Director, BRG, speaks with Leia Olsen, Lead System Compliance & Investigations Counsel, Ascension, Jonathan Porter, Partner, Husch Blackwell LLP, and William Brady, Partner, Holland & Knight LLP, about how health care organizations can strategically respond to governmental inquiries. They discuss the different types of investigative demands, how governmental investigations usually start, the first 48 hours and why organizations should conduct “parallel investigations,” why collaboration with the government usually makes sense, and when to approach the question of a settlement. Leia, Jonathan, and William spoke about this topic at AHLA’s 2025 Fraud and Compliance Forum in Baltimore, MD. Sponsored by BRG.Watch this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STRn0GWUX1oLearn more about BRG: https://www.thinkbrg.com/Learn more about AHLA’s 2025 Fraud and Compliance Forum: https://www.americanhealthlaw.org/fraud-and-compliance-forumLearn more about AHLA’s 2025 Fraud and Compliance Forum eProgram: https://educate.americanhealthlaw.org/local/catalog/view/product.php?productid=1672 Essential Legal Updates, Now in AudioAHLA's popular Health Law Daily email newsletter is now a daily podcast, exclusively for AHLA Comprehensive members. Get all your health law news from the major media outlets on this podcast! To subscribe and add this private podcast feed to your podcast app, go to americanhealthlaw.org/dailypodcast.Stay At the Forefront of Health Legal EducationLearn more about AHLA and the educational resources available to the health law community at https://www.americanhealthlaw.org/.

Per recent Illinois legislation, Board Certified Behavior Analysts (BCBAs) in the state are now required by law to become licensed, and by January 1, 2027, owners of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) businesses must also become licensed. Meanwhile, two bills have been proposed in the Illinois Legislature this year that removes the requirement that owners of ABA businesses be licensed and contemplates BCBAs owning professional entities. John Saran, Partner, Holland & Knight LLP, speaks with Karem Alnatafgi, Founder and CEO, Peak Behavioral Services, Inc., and Veronica Glickman, Founder and CEO, Autism Behavioral and Educational Services, Inc., about the impact of these new licensure requirements and how the industry is adjusting.Watch this conversation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GhihdKX0_EEssential Legal Updates, Now in AudioAHLA's popular Health Law Daily email newsletter is now a daily podcast, exclusively for AHLA Comprehensive members. Get all your health law news from the major media outlets on this podcast! To subscribe and add this private podcast feed to your podcast app, go to americanhealthlaw.org/dailypodcast.Stay At the Forefront of Health Legal EducationLearn more about AHLA and the educational resources available to the health law community at https://www.americanhealthlaw.org/.

Rob Gerberry, Senior Vice President and Chief Legal Officer, Summa Health, speaks with Michael Peregrine about how health care corporate governance may be impacted by the rapid acceleration in artificial intelligence (AI) sophistication and utilization, and the implications for its future development. They discuss how the board should approach its fiduciary responsibilities and interact with senior executive leadership in the face of this rapid AI acceleration.Watch this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FykGUMuYcQEssential Legal Updates, Now in AudioAHLA's popular Health Law Daily email newsletter is now a daily podcast, exclusively for AHLA Comprehensive members. Get all your health law news from the major media outlets on this podcast! To subscribe and add this private podcast feed to your podcast app, go to americanhealthlaw.org/dailypodcast.Stay At the Forefront of Health Legal EducationLearn more about AHLA and the educational resources available to the health law community at https://www.americanhealthlaw.org/.

Alé Dalton, Partner, Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP, speaks with Kelly S. Street, Shareholder, Egerton McAfee Armistead & Davis PC, about his unique journey from farm boy to soldier to lawyer. They discuss Street’s experiences as a first-generation college student growing up on his grandparents’ Tennessee farm, what he learned serving in the U.S. Army, transitioning to law school as a veteran, what specifically drew him to health law and what his practice looks like, and why it is important for attorneys to find a “champion” or be one. They also discuss Street’s role in Backcountry Unit Search & Rescue, an all-volunteer team that supports search and rescue efforts at Great Smoky Mountains National Park. From AHLA’s Early Career Professionals Council.Watch this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSEpS0rnjRIEssential Legal Updates, Now in AudioAHLA's popular Health Law Daily email newsletter is now a daily podcast, exclusively for AHLA Comprehensive members. Get all your health law news from the major media outlets on this podcast! To subscribe and add this private podcast feed to your podcast app, go to americanhealthlaw.org/dailypodcast.Stay At the Forefront of Health Legal EducationLearn more about AHLA and the educational resources available to the health law community at https://www.americanhealthlaw.org/.