Wade Foster, CEO & Co-Founder of Zapier, reveals how a $5B company transformed overnight when GPT-4 launched. Learn his "Code Red" strategy, AI adoption secrets, and why the future of software belongs to AI agents.

When GPT-4 launched, Wade Foster didn't wait. He called a code red. In this conversation, he shares exactly how Zapier went from 10% to 97% company-wide AI adoption in months, why he focuses on building "AI fluency" over quick wins, and what he believes every CEO needs to know about the AI-driven future.

We cover:
- The "Code Red" moment: Why and how Zapier decided to transform everything
- From 10% to 97%: The real drivers behind achieving company-wide AI adoption
- The AI Fluency Rubric: Building institutional AI capability vs. tactical AI use
- The future of software: Why agents (not humans) will write and use software
- The 3% that didn't adopt: Why some teams resist and how to bring them along
- Advice for late-moving CEOs: What to do if you haven't started yet
- Buzzwords Wade would ban from meetings
- Why "context" and "agent" are overloaded terms in AI discussions

TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Intro
02:08 - How calling Code Red transformed the company
03:02 - The immediate impact: From 10% to 50% AI adoption
05:09 - Building the AI Fluency Rubric and institutional change
07:18 - How Zapier achieved 97% adoption (and what about the 3%?)
09:08 - The difference between adoption vs. sustained usage
12:37 - Making employees retry AI tools even when first attempts failed
15:59 - Infrastructure for embedding AI into workflows
19:25 - The future of software: Agents as creators and users
31:58 - What will Zapier look like in 3 years? Agent-native platforms
34:04 - Setting up governance for AI agents to write code safely
39:17 - What beliefs about AI building today won't make sense by 2028?
42:02 - Buzzwords Wade wants to ban from AI conversations
43:18 - Final advice for CEOs who feel they're late to AI

KEY INSIGHTS:
- The quality gap between GPT-3.5 and GPT-4 was so vast it rewritten everything for Zapier
- A company-wide hackathon forced everyone to play with AI (80%+ participation was key)
- Building the muscle for AI adoption matters even when the initial output isn't directly used
- Entrenched workflows and quality concerns are the biggest blockers to adoption
- Support and encouragement to "try again in 3 months" is critical
- The shift isn't just more software, it's that agents will write that software
- Governance and guardrails for agents are the new infrastructure CEOs need to set up
- AI maximalism paired with realistic change management is the winning approach

PERFECT FOR:
- Product leaders and GTM professionals navigating AI transformation
- CEOs and C-suite executives feeling pressure to move faster on AI
- Engineering leaders building AI-fluent organizations
- SaaS founders and entrepreneurs building AI-native products
- Anyone curious about how category-defining companies adapt

Wade Foster brings the strategic clarity and operational rigor that made Zapier the automation standard. This episode cuts through the AI hype to the real work of transforming organizations.

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ABOUT WADE FOSTER:
Wade is the Co-Founder and CEO of Zapier, the #1 automation platform connecting 7000+ apps. He's been building Zapier since 2011 and has grown it into a $5 billion company used by millions of businesses to automate daily workflows. Wade is deeply focused on AI's impact on software development and organizational productivity.

DISCLAIMER: This conversation reflects Wade Foster's views and experiences. Viewers should consult their own experts before making strategic or business decisions.