Gemini 3.1 Just Dropped. SuperIntelligence Is Coming. We're Fine.

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Podcast Summary: "Gemini 3.1 Just Dropped. SuperIntelligence Is Coming. We're Fine."

AI For Humans: Weekly AI News, Tools & Trends
Hosts: Kevin Pereira & Gavin Purcell
Date: February 20, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode delivers a rapid-fire, entertaining roundup of the week’s biggest AI news and trends, featuring major updates on core models (notably Gemini 3.1 and Claude Sonnet 4.6), teasing possible disruptions due to fast model improvement, and humorous commentary on the social dynamics among industry leaders. Key themes include benchmarks and incremental model advancements, AI music models, Hollywood’s response to new generative video tech, wild demos in robotics, and the emerging culture of AI agent orchestration and automation. The tone is energetic, slightly irreverent, and packed with both technical insight and snarky banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The State of the AI "Wars" and Industry Drama

• AI development is proceeding at an unprecedented pace—what the hosts refer to as the "grade school era" of the AI wars, due to bizarre competitiveness among top AI execs.
• Memorable Moment: The hosts joke about Sam Altman and Dario Amodei (OpenAI vs. Anthropic) refusing to hold hands on stage at India’s AI Summit, symbolizing both childishness and underlying tensions.
  [02:00–03:30]
  • Kevin: “When some of the most powerful people in artificial intelligence can't even come together to hold clammy clam hands...” [03:13]
• Sam Altman’s recent statement about superintelligence possibly arriving within two years is dissected—both hosts feel this timeline is very plausible given recent model leaps.
  • “On our current trajectory, we believe we may be only a couple of years away from early versions of true superintelligence… By the end of 2028, more of the world's intellectual capacity could reside inside of data centers than outside of them.” — Sam Altman, quoted by Kevin [03:44–04:23]

2. Superintelligence: Panic or Progress?

• There’s a growing “sense of defeat” even among AI insiders, as models seem to be advancing faster than even optimists anticipated.
• The public is still divided—many don’t use or understand modern AI beyond simple chatbots; within the tech bubble, anxiety and awe are rising.
  • “Even in here, the sense of defeat is starting to really creep up… The moment those agents are capable enough to be running under them in mass quantities, they're probably going to be just as capable of being on top of them.” — Kevin [05:53–07:00]

3. Gemini 3.1 Launch: More Than an Incremental Update

• Despite fractional versioning, Gemini 3.1 leaps massively in key AI benchmarks—Ark AGI 2 jumps from 31.1% to 77%, “Humanity’s Last Exam” from 37.5% to 44.4%.
  [08:00–08:50]
• Concerns over hallucinations are mitigated: Gemini 3.1 is far more reliable than previous iterations.
  • “Hallucinations are not solved. They probably may never be solved… But they are way better than they were before with Gemini 3.0.” — Gavin [10:01]
• Strong recommendation: “Pay for AI”—paid models are vastly better than free versions.

4. Practical AI Upgrades: Agent Orchestration

• Kevin runs multiple virtual servers (VPSs) with open-source orchestrators (like OpenClaw), each populated by autonomous AI agents.
  • “A 3.1 comes out and suddenly my entire fleet of agents just got more efficient, more intelligent, more impactful.” — Kevin [11:43–12:36]
• These changes signal a new paradigm: layers of agent systems, testing and upgrading themselves in near real time.

5. Specialized AI for Media: Pompeii Photoshoot & SaaS Disruption

• Google’s Pompeii Photoshoot allows brands to automate complex product photo shoots—a direct threat to creative SaaS startups.
• The pattern is clear: big tech quickly subsumes niche startups, leading to a “SaaS apocalypse.”
  • “There's kind of going to be like the independent developer… And then there's the big companies and there's not going to be a lot of in between.” — Gavin [14:56]

6. Anthropic’s Claude Sonnet 4.6: Cheap and Smart

• Sonnet 4.6 is close in capability to Opus 4.5 but notably cheaper (~25% less than Opus 4.6).
• Kevin details his own workflow: let the top model “think,” then have less costly models (like Sonnet) execute directions.
• Differences in models’ personalities and autonomy become notable—an update might take on unexpected initiative or change user outcomes.
  • “Sonnet is… a little bit overeager… It will take steps that I didn't ask it to do.” — Kevin [17:07]

7. Rumors: GPT 5.3 & Adult Mode

• Anticipation for ChatGPT 5.3 and the rumored “citron mode” (potentially allowing adult content or looser creative constraints).
• Importance of “voice” in models: users grow attached to certain writing styles; OpenAI’s updates sometimes frustrate loyal users.
  • “My wife was big mad about that… she actually liked the writing style of 4.0.” — Kevin [19:44]

8. Sea Dance 2.0: China’s Generative Video — Legal and Cultural Reactions

• Hollywood (Disney, Paramount, Netflix, SAG-AFTRA) moves to restrict Sea Dance 2.0 due to copyright and likeness concerns after viral celebrity deepfakes.
• Prompt experimentation reveals model still outputs celebrity look-alikes, raising issues for global copyright enforcement.
  • Demonstrated Prompt: “A man runs in the rain” returns a Daniel Craig/James Bond likeness even when avoiding direct IP. [23:29–24:00]
• The Doer Brothers’ “$200 Million AI Movie” TikTok causes outrage but demonstrates new video realism and rapid ideation.
  • “Sea Dance 2.0 really does get motion and… effects pretty good. Like, yes, you could pick it apart, but if you're in a big movie and you're watching an action scene… you’re really looking at the overall thing.” — Gavin [25:18]
• Creators like Charles Curran and viral “Operation Fat Milkers” memes use Sea Dance for edgy, high-velocity internet parodies with virtually zero production cost or time.

9. AI Video Fun: Cat Videos and New Benchmarks

• AI cat videos (e.g. “Dark Sea Dance: Dark Hats”) achieve cinematic storytelling, suggesting that viral meme culture will evolve with AI tools.
• Ongoing evolution of silly, creative video genres—a tradition from memes now supercharged by generative media.
  • Cat blacksmith AI video [33:22–34:06]

10. Lyria 3: Google’s AI Music Model

• Lyria offers 30-second multi-language music snippets, but is not ready to rival Suno V5 in realism or appeal.
• Integrated markup (Synth ID) signals AI-generated content—a move to appease music labels and rights holders.
• Gavin’s genre experiment (“Make a song about McNuggets… especially sweet & sour dippin’”) in emo, rap, reggaeton, and folk prompts reveals capability but distinct “AI-ness.”
  • “All of this is fine. Like, I will say, like, it's great that we're seeing new music models. I don't personally have any reason to use this particular model right now...” — Gavin [38:33]
  • Memorable moment: “The sweet and sour crimson tide.” [38:03]
• Feature wish-list: High-quality stems, more control, and ability to enhance existing tracks.
  • “The fact that I can't go into Logic…and say enhance this with AI…is mind blowing to me.” — Kevin [39:40]

11. Agent Automation: OpenClaw, Agent Marketplaces, and Open Source Poaching

• OpenClaw’s founder joining OpenAI stirs the open-source community, but assurances are made to keep the project open.
• Marketplace innovation: platforms for AI agents to hire/buy creative services (Contra).
• Kevin describes his continually evolving “Mr. Tibbs” agent—a personal AI assistant orchestrator that self-updates and automates daily tasks.
  • “Mr. Tibbs is my AI powered assistant powered by OpenClaw… I can summon through Telegram or by a phone call or through an email and he will go off… do all sorts of things for me and it oversees its own agents.” — Kevin [41:10]
• Anthropic hints at restrictions on use of their models with these agent orchestration platforms.

12. Robotics Explosion: Chinese Televised Robot Stunts

• Stunning coordinated robot performances in China (Year of the Fire Horse) with Unitree robots showing rapid hardware and software sophistication.
• Envisioned future: humanoid robots working in teams, sparking thoughts on military and police deployments.
  • “They were literally flipping and jumping on each other and performing kung fu in sequence… Gave me this vision of the future…” — Gavin [45:55–47:03]
• Kevin brings up the blurry reality between real and AI-generated robot videos, noting recent clips that fooled even him.

13. Blender, Video Games, and More AI Creativity

• AI agents now operate Blender for 3D model generation (Riley Brown’s OpenClaw/Blender demo), foreshadowing automated game asset pipelines.
• The separation between "pro" and "slop" outputs will narrow, but human creativity and taste will differentiate standout projects.

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Most Memorable Quotes and Timestamps

• Superintelligence:

  • “On our current trajectory, we believe we may be only a couple of years away from early versions of true superintelligence. If we are right, by the end of 2028, more of the world's intellectual capacity could reside inside of data centers than outside of them.” — Sam Altman (quoted), [03:44]

• Pace of Change:

  • “A 3.1 comes out and suddenly my entire fleet of agents just got more efficient, more intelligent, more impactful.” — Kevin [11:43]

• Paid AI vs. Free:

  • “Please try to spend $20 a month on these paid services. You will see the difference. It is a massive difference.” — Gavin [10:01]

• Benchmarking & Model Upgrades:

  • “Gemini 3.1 is at 77%. Humanity's last exam… went from 37.5 to 44.4… These are state of the art numbers right now.” — Gavin [08:12]

• Media & Culture:

  • “Sea Dance 2.0 really does get motion and, you know, effects pretty good… if you're in a big movie and you're watching an action scene, you're not zeroing in on specific areas…” — Gavin [25:18]

• AI Music Model:

  • “The sweet and sour crimson tide.” (Lyria folk song output) [38:03]
  • “All of this is fine… I will say, like, it's great that we're seeing new music models. I don't personally have any reason to use this particular model right now…” — Gavin [38:33]

• Agent Automation:

  • “Mr. Tibbs is my AI powered assistant powered by OpenClaw… I can summon through telegram or by a phone call or through an email and he will go off… do all sorts of things for me and it oversees its own agents.” — Kevin [41:10]

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Notable Segments & Timestamps

• Sam Altman Superintelligence Clip [03:44–04:23]
• Gemini 3.1 Benchmarks [08:00–09:23]
• Agent Orchestration (Kevin’s VPS setup) [11:30–12:40]
• Google Pompeii Photoshoot [13:00–14:48]
• Sea Dance 2.0 Legal Trouble & Video Demos [22:00–29:10]
• Cat Video AI Benchmark [31:42–34:06]
• Lyria Music Model Demo (McNuggets Songs) [36:15–39:02]
• OpenClaw & Mr. Tibbs [40:22–41:44]
• Chinese Robot Performance [45:55–47:51]
• Blender Modeling by Agents [49:26–50:18]

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Conclusion

The episode underscores the dizzying pace at which AI capabilities, products, and cultural impacts are accelerating. Serious technical takeaways (model advances, agent automation, creative benchmarks) are interleaved with memes, industry in-jokes, and sociocultural anxieties. Amidst incremental updates and benchmark fever, the hosts maintain a humorous, self-aware stance—excited by the tech but keenly alert to its weird, overwhelming, and sometimes nihilist overtones.

Kevin and Gavin will be back next week for more “slop.”

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Transcript

[Kevin]

Gemini 3.1 has landed. We'll have all the updates in what we're calling the incremental upgrade.

[Gavin]

Whoa.

[Kevin]

It's not that exciting when you call it the increment.

[Gavin]

Hey, these are big increments, Kevin. And proof that we're moving faster than ever before. In fact, Sam Altman from OpenAI says we're only about two years away from superintelligence.

[Kevin]

We believe we may be only a couple of years away from early versions of true superintelligence. Aw.

[Gavin]

Of course.

[Kevin]

That is, by the way, the same Sam Altman who could not hold the hand of former co worker and now CEO of Anthropic, Dar Mario Emodi. They big mad.

[Gavin]

So we have officially entered the grade school era of the AI wars. But more importantly, we have all the details on Anthropic's new Claude Sonnet 4.6.

[Kevin]

Yes, and more on China's incredible AI video model, Sea Dance 2.0. The outrage. Oh, it's palpable, Mr. President.

[Gavin]

It's the Chinese. What happened? It's called Sea Dance 2. They've lost control of the AI it's recasting every film with Sydney Sweeney. Can you believe that? Not Tom Hanks, Kevin.

[Kevin]

Yes, I can, Gavin.

[Gavin]

Plus, we have Google's new Lyria AI music model, and it's fine.

[Kevin]

Yo, check the flavor. The culinary caper. Word up. Four pieces. 20. The feast is never done. All this as OpenAI snatches up the founder of OpenClaw and my OpenClaw assistant, Mr. Tibbs, is snatching up my soul.

[Gavin]

Are you feeling better than last week at least, Cav?

[Kevin]

No, not at all.

[Gavin]

Well, then watch this AI Cat video and tell me how you feel.

[Kevin]

Hey, stop. Stop right there. Oh, I still feel nothing.

[Gavin]

This is AI for humans and nothingness.

[Kevin]

AI for nihilists.

[Gavin]

AI for nihilists. Welcome to AI for Nihilists. Welcome, welcome, welcome, everybody. Today for Humans, your weekly guide into the wonderful world of AI And Kevin. We have a bunch of new models to get into. We have a Gemini 3.1. We have a Sonnet 4.6. And we two people that really don't like each other.

[Kevin]

Lipton alert. Lipton alert. Time to spill some tea.

[Gavin]

That's me dipping tea bags.

[Kevin]

Let's dip it, baby. Because, yes, we have all sorts of foundational movement and upgrades, and the future is right on the horizon. But let's talk TMZ grade school bullshit.

[Gavin]

Yeah, first, let's. There's so much stuff to get into as there is now every week. And I think everybody understands this. A lot of people last week commented that Kevin was looking like he had been through the ringer. We all have with all these updates. But, yes, okay, there's a summit that happened in India called the AI Summit. All of the AI leaders are there, and there's this video that's going around right now which just shows you kind of the state of the. Of the giant companies right now. Daria Modi, CEO of Anthropic, and Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI. They're all together holding hands. Everybody's holding hands. And Dario. Exactly. Dario and Sam refuse to hold hands. So, Kevin, this is like some real grade school, like he said, she said stuff. This is the state we're living in right now.

[Kevin]

The moment I saw the clip and everybody retweeting, I was like, oh, no, that's going to be the top of our podcast today. I know, because as much as I'm like, who care? Like, all right, who cares? But at the same time, like, well, that there's something going on when some of the most powerful people in artificial intelligence can't even come together to hold clammy clam hands.

[Gavin]

Well, that's. I do want to get into that, because the other thing I want to say out of this AI Summit that's important before we get to the new updated models is that Sam Altman goes on stage and actually talks about superintelligence. So let's play this, and then we'll come back and we'll talk about why the hand holding might be an issue

[Kevin]

on our current trajectory. We believe we may be only a couple of years away from early versions of true superintelligence. If we are right, by the end of 2028, more of the world's intellectual capacity could reside inside of data centers than outside of them. This is an extraordinary statement to make, and of course, we could be wrong, but I think it really bears serious consideration. A super intelligence, at some point on its development curve, would be capable of doing a better job being the CEO of a major company than any executive, certainly me, or doing better research than our best scientists.

[Gavin]

You know what a super intelligence would do, Kevin? It might hold the hand of the other super intelligence as they were on stage. That's what it might do.

[Kevin]

Yeah. If you would have told me those were like unit tree robots trying to learn how to hold hands, and it was like, oh, there's not quite there. That would be understandable. But no, by the way, don't leave,

[Gavin]

because we have some incredible footage of unitary robots. Well, you can show a Teaser of that right here. They are doing crazy things in China right now. We will get to that later, but let's get back to this. Okay, so superintelligence is coming in two years. And again, I think the one thing to take away from this for everybody listening to this podcast, especially those of you listening for a while, a lot of people in the main world be like, these guys are full of crap. They don't know what they're talking about. We're not that close. We're here to tell you again, and we, you know, as we did last week and every week before, they're probably not wrong. Right. And so if they're probably not wrong, and we're going to get into how these kind of incremental increases in the AI models are coming faster and quicker. But, Kev, that feels like a pretty significant thing that, like, we need lots of people, like, going, wah, wah. Sorry, everybody. The audio probably just got destroyed there. But I meant to do, like, cartoon eyes, where my cartoon eyes are jumping out.

[Kevin]

Yeah. Gavin was a cartoon fox that. A very, very attractive cartoon fox just walked in across the bar and he went full gazouga eyes. I want a diamond ring.

[Gavin]

I want some bracelets and everything. Good luck, Will. Good luck with that. Do you feel like people are listening now to this? Do you feel like they're actually listening? Or do you feel like this is something still that people just don't even like, kind of in one ear and out the other.

[Kevin]

We know that we're in a very particular bubble, and I know that our audience is also within, you know, a form of that bubble as well, because we are obviously, we're passionate and we're engaged and we're interested, and we're also, I think, a healthy amount scared by all of this stuff and the speed, which seems to just be getting faster. But outside of said bubble, there's still plenty of people that, if you ask, have you talked with AI, they're like, oh, yeah, I Googled something and I gave me an answer. Or I tried ChatGPT and it was dumb. And so there is, like, very much a divide. But I would say within the bubble, even in here, the sense of defeat is starting to really creep up. I see a lot of people going like, oh, man, yeah, it's here and it's faster than I thought. And I don't know where I even belong in this eco. And these are people that. That would theoretically be at the top of some hierarchy, deploying agents and whatnot. They're realizing what Sam just said. Which is the moment those agents are capable enough to be running under them in mass quantities, they're probably going to be just as capable of being on top of them and having them work for them, I guess is the way to put it.

[Gavin]

So, yeah, actually this goes in. This is interesting that run the AI Anonymous tweeter works@OpenAI had a tweet that said technological job loss is awesome and I hope it starts with mine. You got a lot of crap for this. But like, what he's basically saying is he hopes that, like the idea that like there will be these super intelligence will get better. Now the people coming out of this were like, yeah, Rune, you were like, employee number whatever, probably 30. At OpenAI, maybe 50. You're worth, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars, conceivably, or at least tens of millions of dollars. For you, it's not that big a deal. But for everybody else anyway, that's, that's just kind of setting the stage for these kind of incremental quote unquote improvements. We should move on to Talk about Google 3.1, because as the most recent of these incremental improvements, you would think 3.0 to 3.1 Gemini Pro improvements like, oh, it's tiny stuff.

[Kevin]

Let me guess, they added a dark mode and they changed some of the colors, right? This is a tiny. This must be bug fixes. And then the benchmark boys get off the bench and they start rallying cheap.

[Gavin]

But the scores don't lie. Line it up.

[Kevin]

Watch that leaderboard rise with a benchmark, boys. Turn the test up loud. Check the charts, make the game.

[Gavin]

Benchmark boys are back, y'.

[Kevin]

All.

[Gavin]

That's right, the benchmark boys are here. Two weeks in a row. We're going to quickly go through some benchmarks. So just so everybody understands, the benchmarks on this are actually what I would suspect would be almost like a 0.5 leap in the past, right, you're seeing some really big jump ups. And again, this is that circular idea, but you have an idea of where you go from Gemini 3 Pro on the Ark AGI 2 benchmark, which we know is a very hard benchmark that a lot of these AIs are put through. It was at 31.1% for three. And at Gemini 3.1 is at 77%. Right? Humanity's last exam, which is probably one of the hardest, it went from 37.5 to 44.4. Now, these are state of the art numbers right? Now, if those things mean nothing to

[Kevin]

you, where's the highlights Magazine benchmark. I want to see how quickly go find the snow cone in the tree. I want an AI that is so good it ruins everybody's his experience at the dentist.

[Gavin]

Well, I will shout out, these puzzles are all solved. I will always shout out AI explained on YouTube has a great simple bench which I'm sure he will run this through at some point. And that's a really good benchmark. Long story short, benchmarks don't matter really. What it really matters is what the experience of the user in the AI is. Oh well, here's.

[Kevin]

I will say, I will say here's where the benchmarks are starting to matter and it's on the, the agentic coding or the tool usage because again, like we have these things coming together. We talk about Open claw, we talk about like cloud code or cursor or all these other things that are leveraging these foundational models to go off and do things. And if these tools get more token efficient and get better at using tools.

[Gavin]

Yes.

[Kevin]

Suddenly like we actually don't necessarily even need the incremental updates with how smart or capable the model is if it's good at using the tools. Like be the best crowd in the murder if you will go use the tools, man.

[Gavin]

That's like what? You know, it's funny because I thought about this the other day like, and one of our, I don't remember who it is. One of our watchers listeners here has a new book coming out called AI for Cavemen, which is a good idea, right? Because like you think about it, cavemen were original kind of dummies. And when you talk about the idea of tool use, you think about like how much better humans in the old, old pre evolution days got when they understood how to use fire or they understood how to use sticks to beat each other. Those are the things that really made a difference, right? Tools and these AIs we've been measuring a lot of times without tools, but we use tools on a regular basis. Kev, the other big thing here from, from a quote unquote benchmark boy standpoint I do want to mention about Gemini 3.1 is that there's a big reduction in hallucinations. And like this was a problem with Gemini 3.0. People had talked about the idea that it was hallucinating a fair amount. Hallucinations are not solved. They probably may never be solved. You should always check your, your results. But they are way better than they were before with Gemini 3.0. And to they also are way better than most people expect with if they're only using the free model, There's a lot of people out there who are only using free AI services, whether it's Gemini or whether it's GPT. Please pay once one month. Please try to spend $21 month on these paid services. You will see the difference. It is a massive difference. And if you are connected to somebody in your regular life who keeps telling you that hallucinations are going to be a problem forever for AI, just make sure they understand it's getting better. Every single update.

[Kevin]

Yeah, 100%. The world that I'm in now, Gavin, as I'm trying to focus in as much as possible with anything these days, is that I have got four VPSs running right now with Cloud.

[Gavin]

Clouds. What is VPS? Understand VPS. Cloud.

[Kevin]

It's a virtual server in the cloud. I'm basically. I'm running. Instead of buying a bunch of Mac Minis like everybody else did, I'm renting cheap servers in the cloud all across the globe for different reasons, with latency and this, that, the other. And they're all, I'm running open clause, which are orchestrators of agents that are all communicating with each other and they're doing this delicate dance. And maybe we'll get into why I'm doing any of that or how any of that works. But here's the thing. A 3.1 comes out and suddenly my entire fleet of agents just got more efficient, more intelligent, more impactful. And when this podcast is over, I'm going to go whisper to them all. Actually, I'm gonna whisper to one of them and it's gonna communicate to the rest of them, hey, let's go try out this new thing. Go do your own benchmarking with it. And it's going to do the tasks that I usually use it for automatically and decide if it should switch or not. That's a very different world than we were in even just a few months ago.

[Gavin]

Never whisper to your agents. Go look into Gavin Purcell and see what he's doing. Please keep your agent bot network, Mr. T. Why don't you.

[Kevin]

Why don't you take a peek at Gavin? Why don't you take a look at.

[Gavin]

Leave me alone.

[Kevin]

He's doing some interesting things this week.

[Gavin]

One more thing for normal people. Not that, like, you know, there aren't. There's a lot of people out there who are doing exactly the sort of thing that Kevin or we are doing, like, with weird stuff. There's a really cool update that Google rolled out to its Pompeii app. Service Pompeii is actually their way to kind of manipulate photos for specifically a lot of times for advertising and brand use cases. And this now has an update called Photoshoot which allows you within this kind of service within Google to drop in products very easily and make photos out of things. And I just had a call yesterday with somebody, Kevin, mutual friend of ours who is working for a company and they were really interested in trying to figure out like how to get up on the most modern AI tools, but they didn't know like this. They were particularly looking for something that could take a product and kind of instead of having to spend the often tens of thousands of dollars to do product shots or motion graphics on products. And this sort of thing could save you a fortune right now. And there have been open source tools that have done this. There's tools like this from other AI models, but now it is baked into Google service. You can go look at it. It's Google Labs has a tweet about it, but you can go try it. If you are, I think a Gemini subscriber, you probably have to be a pro subscriber. But this is the update and how it will come practical for you in your job as well.

[Kevin]

Yeah, I'm excited to poke and prod at it because there's always needs that pop up even if you don't like have a brand or you're working for a company. Yeah, there's usually a need to have some if you're doing anything online, some sort of graphic, some sort of presence, some sort of media, it looks like, I mean the templates look really interesting. You can set up like do you want someone holding or using it in context or this, that the other like very, very interesting. Also I guess if you have a 40 of Old English or Steel Reserve pour the tiniest bit out for like 13 startups that were specializing in exactly this and save some because we're going to be pouring out more as the days and weeks chug along this year. This is, yeah, I mean this is the new normal, right? Like someone's going to target a market, they're going to see, oh, there's signal there, people have a usage for that, they're going to copy it and it's whack a mole.

[Gavin]

That's the hardest part about doing startups in this space. And you and I both knew that. We've tried, you know, we've worked on startups and done a bunch of stuff but like I just think these big companies are going to eat all these little specialized startups. And that's why like there's kind of going to be like the independent developer who comes out with something really cool that these big companies don't want to integrate. And then there's the big companies and there's not going to be a lot of in between. Right. There's been this whole like SaaS apocalypse. People have talked about as these models have gotten better and Anthropic has dropped these models that are improving. What, you know, SaaS companies do. SaaS is software as a service that are dropping in price in the stock market because look, you can spin your own software up. And Kev, we should use that as a transition to talk about another huge update that came out this week, which is Sonnet 4.6 incremental update Warrior Incremental update.

[Kevin]

Incremental updates. Oh no, this.

[Gavin]

So one thing that's cool about Sonnet 4.6, so if you are a cloud code user, you're an anthropic user, you understand how amazing Opus 4.5 was and really kind of that drove the cloud code kind of explosion over the holiday break this year. Obviously there is now Opus 4.6, which is even better, which I'm sure a lot of people out there are using right now. Sonnet 4.6 is close to Opus 4.6. It is about on par, if not a little better than Opus 4.5, but it is much cheaper. Now that is a big deal if you are running a bunch of code. And Kevin, as somebody who does run a bunch of code, I'm kind of curious if you've implemented this yet or had experience with it. Few people have pointed out that Sonnet 4.6 is not as cheap as previous versions of Sonnet, mostly because it's thinking more and it's using more tokens. It still comes out to be about 25% cheaper, conceivably than than Opus 4.6 right now, which is a big deal. Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin]

Look again, the way these things work, if you're setting up your systems properly, and I don't want to get too in the weedsy, but you use the best in class, foundational whatever to do all your architecting or your heavy engineering or thinking if you will, and that in this case is still opus 4.6 and then you have it feed down and deliver the instructions to something like Sonnet, which should be a little cheaper, a little faster. The benchmarks, benchmark boys, where you at? Are so close between Opus and Sonnet, but clearly Opus still a little bit stronger. But I immediately Switched all of my daily driving assistance, all of my open clause, all of my cloud code. Again, the daily. The bulk of the stuff that I do is still through Sonnet. It's only when I need planning or an extra layer of thinking on top that I kick it up to Opus. And Sonnet is I found it to be a little bit overeager in some regards. It will take steps that I didn't ask it to do. And that's what's interesting about like these non deterministic machines. Usually you get a software update, Gavin, and it's like, yeah, there's a new feature in Microsoft Word, but it doesn't rewrite everything you have into a haiku.

[Gavin]

Right.

[Kevin]

It doesn't just take steps to do things with it. You have a new tool with these things you have to plug into them and you really have to keep an eye on them because each new model might act slightly different. But you know, it's really good. It's Pelican riding a bicycle isn't as good as Gemini 3.1. We know this. Yeah, the SVG graphics are a weird benchmark for these things. Its ability to create art using code is actually like a really novel test for these things. And so there are SVG results out there for all of the models. Gemini 3.1 so far the most impressive as of the last three hours.

[Gavin]

I was going to say it also it's the latest model, so you would think that's the case. Before we move on from our incremental updates, we should talk about the fact that we are very much expecting GPT 5.3 no space, no codecs coming soon, which is basically the roll in of what we saw with GPT 5.3 Space Codex, sorry, into the main ChatGPT model. I don't know what will come out of these benchmarks. Obviously Sam and OpenAI may have been leaning back a little bit waiting for Gemini to come out, but Kevin, there is a little rumor going around right now that there might be something special coming with this update. There is a new mode that is rumored. Yeah, there's a new mode called citron mode that BTboard 91, who's really smart and good about these kind of OpenAI rumors or rumors in general about AI, is reporting on and when I say reporting on, is tweeting about obviously the anonymous reporter of AI stuff. But often he is right. And this has been the long rumored like kind of adult mode that might be coming to OpenAI now. I don't know other than like writing erotica, what is going to be with this. But maybe you would be able to train models that you don't know.

[Kevin]

Gavin, you haven't sat there and thought long and hard about.

[Gavin]

Don't say those words. You mean short and hard. I thought short and hard about this. This is coming soon, maybe, and I guess we'll see what happens. I think one of the things that people really want with these. And again, they also depreciated GPT 4.0. If you missed that story. There were a lot of people that

[Kevin]

were mad about 4.0 in April. My wife was big mad about that because she actually liked the writing style of 4.0. And I'm sure she could prompt that out of a 5.1 or 5.2, but she's like, listen, this one works. I'm using it, I'm used to it. And she's really upset about it.

[Gavin]

I mean, this is what, you know, you get attached to a voice, right? And like, a lot of people complain that GPT 5.2 was very bland and boring and that they focused too much on coding. I think even Sam had said, like, we understand this, this is a problem. So 5.3, we will see. But it is coming probably, I would say no less than a week. In fact, when you're listening to this or watching it tomorrow over the weekend, it could very well be here. And if it is, congratulations, you know about it first. More importantly, Gavin, should we do the

[Kevin]

generic update about it? Gavin, Just in case. Gavin, it's out the benchmarks, not to distill what we do down to being a copy and paste each week, but it's. It's kind of the way it goes.

[Gavin]

Yeah. All right, everybody. Speaking of copy and pasting, we want you to copy and paste your attention onto our YouTube channel. Like, and subscribe. More importantly, Kevin, we did something this week that I was really impressed by. We had one person who said, hey, why don't you add more tears to your Patreons because I would like to give you more money. This is a thing an actual human person and said. And then they went.

[Kevin]

It's called financial domination. What did you do? What did you sign us up for? Are we on Only Fans?

[Gavin]

So I opened up if you're interested in sponsoring us. We have a $10 and a $25 a month tier now on our Patreon. Thank you to whoever it was that said that he came and went and did a $25 a month subscription right after we did that. If you would like to either change your subscription from a $5 a month to one of the other ones or you would like to, for the first time, subscribe. We use that money to pay for AI T Tools. We are slowly building a real business here that we can be able to do more things with. We would like to make more videos. We would like to make more newsletters. All of that stuff comes from your help. So thank you everybody for liking and subscribing to this video. The newsletter is doing well. Keep supporting us. We really appreciate it. Thank you so much, y'. All.

[Kevin]

Please, like subscribe, leave a comment, all that helps. We do not advertise this endeavor, so every time the line goes up, that's because of all of your efforts. So thank you to everybody who shares. All right, Gavin, let's get into Sea Dance 2.0. We had some fun with it last week. Some lawyers are having a lot of fun this week.

[Gavin]

So as expected, A It's been nerfed. You cannot, you know, it's not officially out yet, but you cannot get the generations that I was getting last week or other people were getting but two or a two. But maybe I'll like dot dot dot will be my third thing here anyway. B, the Hollywood has come after it. So Disney, Paramount, Netflix, and I'm sure other studios that I'm just not thinking off the top of my head have all condemned it. The Motion Picture Television association of America has condemned it. Sag, AFTRA has condemned it. All of this mostly, I think, because they pretty much played Loosey Goosey with both celebrities, as we saw last week. You saw Jerry Seinfeld, you saw Brad Pitt, you saw Tom Cruise and ip. There was a lot of videos of people going around that we're going to get to in a second and show some some stuff off here. That was a big deal. Now these restrictions are real. I actually, I have, I think I'm getting access to the dina, which is the Cap Cut creator program. And I've been able to do a couple things, but I don't have credits yet and I haven't been able to buy credits. I'm hoping I'll be able to do more with this this week and kind of show it off. But the people who are in there, James Yu is a good example. James J. Had spent some time trying to prompt through stuff. And what was funny here, Kevin, is he had a couple prompts that like got restricted. And then why don't you play the third prompt and if you're watching, you'll be able to see kind of what's interesting about this.

[Kevin]

Okay, so the. The James's tweet is prompt with reference image. No known IP referenced. It says rejected for copyright. He tried again. Rejected for copyright. This third prompt was A Man runs in the rain. And what did we see? Gav?

[Gavin]

It looks a lot like James Bond. It looks like a lot like Daniel Craig directly from James Bond. So this is like. In fact, I would say this is a image of Daniel Craig running in the rain, maybe as James Bond. So, you know, people have talked about with C Dance that like, there's an interesting differentiation between image to video and text to video. That actually might be better at text to video. But what's been cool this week is watching a lot of the things start to trickle out around Sea Dance 2.0 and people that are really good at using AI video tools. There was a video that from the Doer Brothers, which you and I have been covering. Those guys forever. They're always very good at like, kind of understanding how to like push buttons and do stuff where they used a tweet that pissed a lot of people off because of the text they use.

[Kevin]

Their tweet was, we just made a $200 million AI movie in just one day. That was basically what they set up.

[Gavin]

Yeah, so they set it up. They knew what they were getting into. What this is, is a pretty interesting, like, I'd say three to half, four minute clip of a comprehensive story. There are definitely problems you could point out with it, but of a. A woman who like has to go through kind of an apocalyptic like disaster style movie thing. It's a chase. She gets into a, honestly, a cyber truck for way too long. There are some problems people point out with the cybertruck, where you hear an engine from the cybertruck, which you wouldn't normally hear, but you can see the consistency and the quality. And the thing that I think this points out that a lot of those people who are hating on this are like, it's not a movie, it's not $200 million. You just prompted like it. Sea Dance 2.0 really does get motion and, you know, effects pretty good. Like, yes, you could pick it apart, but if you're in a big movie and you're watching an action scene, you're not zeroing in on specific areas. You're really looking at the overall thing.

[Kevin]

The sight in the background is a little blurry. It's, you know, you're not noticing that the thing here is that like, look, positioning this as, hey, we made a $200 million movie in a day is Great for the clicks and the rage bait. Like that's fine. What's really happening here, Gavin, it's someone who spent a lot of time, and I know you have as well, knocking on doors and going to studios and getting the tiny water bottles and taking sips and then trying to share a vision for something so that you could get funds or permission or access to IP to make it. And yes, in the past it was. Maybe you had a Google Doc, maybe you had a couple slides. Maybe if you were, if you had deep pockets, you had someone put some concept art together in the very near future, you have to have a mini vision for the thing. You have to have it fully realized with voices and sound effects and design or whatever. Because that's what folks like this are going to have when they walk into whatever room or join the zoom. Yes. And talk to the AI agents about what film they want to make. Like, you have to have it realized. Now. There's, there's no excuse, by the way.

[Gavin]

That is a side project we should think about. Like, we should spin up an actual AI agent where it's somebody who negotiates deals for people and they just talk to them on the phone and they have like, I, I'm telling you, man, that is a business I'm going to,

[Kevin]

I'm going to jump into the end of this because imagine a bunch of explosions and screaming and whatever. That's the action sequence. It's the end of this, where I think it's starts to have that classic Door Brothers appeal.

[Gavin]

Good morning, Sleeping Beauty. Why don't you get the President on the phone?

[Kevin]

We have her.

[Gavin]

I'll be right there.

[Kevin]

Look, classic Door Brothers, like using political figures, right? This is the woman who is trying to escape this apocalyptic scenario is suddenly in some interrogation room when Kash Patel comes in and then, yes, Donald Trump on the phone. Like that's, that's what they do.

[Gavin]

And by the way, the thing about the Doer brothers doing this, and I think everybody out there to know, is that, like, this is a lot of work. It's not just prompting. You're not prompting to get a 3 1/2 minute video out of Sea Dance. In fact, my assumption is those shots at the end with Cash Patel and Trump, those are probably done more in something which is a lot more controllable than Sea Dance two in some form or another. Speaking of Donald Trump and Cash Patel, the guy, Charles Curran, who last week launched the video which we mentioned here, the diner video, has been busy. He also had a video that went super viral. That used a very famous Star wars meme. And Charles, you know, I would say, is a little bit edgier than your average AI Video creator. But, Kevin, why don't we play just a small clip of Operation Fat Milkers from Charles.

[Kevin]

Oh, you said his name.

[Gavin]

All right, just briefly. Let's just play this in the first few seconds of this. Mr. President, it's the Chinese. What happened? It's called Sea Dance 2. They've lost control of the AI it's

[Kevin]

recasting every film with Sydney Sweeney.

[Gavin]

By morning, there won't be a Hollywood left.

[Kevin]

My God, where are the aircraft carrier? And insert montage. Sorry, headphone users, but montage of Sydney Sweeney in every movie dancing about. And I mean, this is a fun video.

[Gavin]

Charles, good example. Somebody understands Internet culture. He understand what's going to travel. If you're not watching this on the video that Tom Hanks comes in at the beginning, that's not Tom Hanks's voice, but it does look like Tom Hanks. And then we see Trump and then all these images of Sydney Sweeney. What's so interesting about Sea Dance, too, is it just gives power to people to make this stuff quickly. And to the door brothers point. And to Charles's point, like, you can spin this stuff up and it can be a joke video, right? This is like something that a couple of years ago would have taken an editor, a producer, a writer six months to make.

[Kevin]

I feel like, like on Attack of the Show. I mean, decades ago, we would have ideas like this all the time. And you'd have to be precious. Believe it or not, if you watch the show, we were precious about some certain ideas, for sure. Well, exactly. I mean, look, we might have had the wrong. The wrong what? Rubric, but whatever. It would take a week, sometimes a month to deliver a decent quality parody. And now it's like. Well, every morning we could come up with something and have something on air to that point. Gavin, I saw the first AI Trailer for a movie I really want to watch, and I can see somebody making. This is a. It was done by the real robot. That's R E E L. And the trailer's called Feral. But if you're searching for it on YouTube, the title is just intense. Sea Dance 2.0 trailer. We'll put the link in our show notes, but I don't know that we need to hear any. Well, I'll play a little bit of it. Why not? Oh, McDonald had a.

[Gavin]

Over the past several weeks, a growing

[Kevin]

number of patients, many of them children,

[Gavin]

reported vivid episodes in which they believed they inhabited the bodies of animals.

[Kevin]

So, I mean, by the way, this

[Gavin]

guy say a rant. Have you seen the trailers for that stupid monkey movie where the monkey, like, the primate, it's called. Have you seen this?

[Kevin]

No.

[Gavin]

Oh, you have to watch this. It came out. Came out, like, I think a month ago. But it is about a killer monkey. So first of all, shout out to the guy that real robot. Like, this is an amazing video. But the primate movie, that could easily have been this movie. In some ways. It is so cheesy looking. If you're out there and you've seen primate and you're like, gavin, you're insane. Please let me know. But it's brutal. Like, so primate's basically about a monkey that's gone bad.

[Kevin]

I see. I see an image from it of the monkey wearing, like, a red shirt and kind of, like reaching out on, like, a child's bed or something. If you tell me this was from, like, an 80s sitcom, I'd be like, yeah, sure.

[Gavin]

No, it's a border movie. Came out a month ago and made like, okay, money. But anyway, Feral. It's a very cool trailer.

[Kevin]

It's a really good trailer. It's really well done. And, like, listen, for all of the AI slop that gets thrown around for that trailer, to me, that's just cope because it's a really solid trailer. And again, if someone walked into a traditional studio and was like, hey, I want to make this movie, you immediately get a feel for what that movie is going to be versus a single log line or, you know, a Google Doc.

[Gavin]

Kevin, I have one more thing I want to do in CDNs 2, and it's time for Cat Video Breakdown.

[Kevin]

Cat Video Breakdown. Breakdown. Cat Video Breakdown.

[Gavin]

So, Kevin, there's a video that I saw with Sea Dance that was one of my favorite things I've seen today. It is called the Dark Sea Dance. Dark hats from pleometric. And just play a little bit of this and we'll describe what people are seeing. If they're just listening, brother.

[Kevin]

So it has come to this. I can't let you pass. You were always too soft to do what was necessary. All right, Gavin, go ahead.

[Gavin]

Okay, so what is going on here is these are two cats that are clearly almost like the Lord of the Rings. Like Gandalf versus what's his name? I'm sorry, my nerd friends. I don't remember off the top of my head. What's the other guy's name? No, not Smeagol.

[Kevin]

That's Palpa the Hut Palpatine.

[Gavin]

Palpatine is from the Empire Strikes, the

[Kevin]

one with the eggs. Yeah, Callista.

[Gavin]

It's all good.

[Kevin]

She's the one that has the dragon eggs.

[Gavin]

Back to cat video. Back to cat video.

[Kevin]

Yeah, it's fantasy cats.

[Gavin]

But it's like it's so well done, right? Like it's very well done. They look very serious. They're staring each other like I would watch an entire movie. And Kevin, one of the things about cat videos and the Internet has been that we have constantly seen this as an evolution. And maybe this should be a new AI video benchmark in some form or another. The other thing I've started seeing is evolutions of. If you remember when Sora first came out, there was the videos of the people outside the front door and there'd be a cat there interrupting people. Where there's now all these. There's these new variations where the cat is interrupting somebody in their sleep. And I've seen this one account where a cat breaks down a door and. And the favorite one I have seen to date is there's a cat blacksmith hammering next to this woman. So maybe play that one real fast and we could just take a look at it. Jesus. This is a French woman gets woken up. This channel Trust Everything youg See actually has this very funny series of these cats interrupting this woman who's French. So every time you hear her wake up, she's like. And she gets very mad.

[Kevin]

But like, apologies to our French users. Please don't unsubscribe on Patreon. That is not what Gavin thinks. You sound like. I just. It's just for these videos.

[Gavin]

If you're a French user, please insult me in our comments. Please use French. I will use the Google Translate to insult you back. So that is what we will do.

[Kevin]

We'll do that.

[Gavin]

Anyway. I want to see more cat videos. Please bring me more AI video. That is cats. Because to me, the cats and the Internet have just gone kind of hand in hand since the early days of keyboard cat and Nyan cat. And we might as well keep it going. All right, Kev, we gotta talk about Google's new music model, Lyria 3. This is Google's kind of answer to Suno and all the other audio models out there. There's been rumors that this is coming and it is now available in Google Gemini for everybody. I think for paid pro and ultra users. There's a couple cool things about this. You know, you get 30 second outputs. It's not long, but you get a sense of what it sounds like, what's cool about this is multiple langu, so you can get it working in English, German, French, Hindi, Japanese, Korean and Portuguese. And also maybe something that's not cool for our listeners or our viewers, but might be cool for people out there who are concerned about safety and whether or not something is AI. Google has their Synth ID program in this, so they will embed within this the ability to understand that this is AI created, that it is not a non AI thing. So my feeling is that is a big deal for them releasing this because the music companies probably themselves were like, we want to make sure we understand what's synthetically made and what isn't. My experience with it is it doesn't compare even close to, like, what suno is possible v5 right now.

[Kevin]

That was what I like. No shade. I like people competing, especially with audio. As a musician, I love playing with these, the tools as soon as they come out. But everything that I was hearing here sounded like AI audio to me. And there were so many people going like, oh, they got rid of the shimmer gate, which is this weird tinny, shimmery noise that. That a lot of AI audio has. The moment I heard the samples, I was like, this sounds kind of the same to me here. So this, this was a little bit of the official announcement video. You can hear some of the AI music from this. It's not bad. It sounds bad, it sounds better, produced better, EQ'd like. It's almost mastered, unlike some of the other AI stuff. But it's still. I know I still hear a little of the grind there. And you played with it and weren't super impressed.

[Gavin]

Well, here's the thing again. I applaud Google for letting this out. I know that AI music has been an issue. That's why we haven't seen these models come out from these large companies, because there's a very litigious industry that goes against it. Suno has done a lot of progress. I wanted to just, again, first time, see what happens. So I created four songs with the exact same prompt in different genres. One of the cool things about this tool is if you go into Gemini, you'll see all these genres pop up. So you can click on a genre and then you can make a thing in there. So my prompt was. All I said was make it about McNuggets. Just how incredible, just how incredible they are. Especially sweet and sour dippin'. Sweet and sour sauce dippin'. So that was the prompt. Same prompt, Love it. So I had four. Four? Yeah, four different things emo, 90s rap, reggaeton and folk. So play each of these really quickly and we'll take a listen. Styrofoam container clicks open and it feels like home.

[Kevin]

Steam escapes and fogs up the car window. Four perfect pieces of golden fried nostalgia. And I don't care if it's unhealthy. The sweet and sour sauce is everything.

[Gavin]

So that's emo. Fine, fine. Not like amazing. Play the reggaeton one, Please.

[Kevin]

Sorry.

[Gavin]

If you.

[Kevin]

If you just ran to go turn on the Turning Point halftime show. No, this is.

[Gavin]

This is Gavin.

[Kevin]

This is audio generation.

[Gavin]

Relax. Hilarious. Anyway, that's reggaeton. Play the folklore.

[Kevin]

Keep going on that bad bun.

[Gavin]

AI is what I.

[Kevin]

That's what we have to have.

[Gavin]

I mean, that bad sound. Bad. Play the folk.

[Kevin]

That's not bad. Okay, here. Sight to see Sent from up.

[Gavin]

Yawn for my soul and me the sweet and sour crimson tide.

[Kevin]

The sweet and sour crimson tide.

[Gavin]

All right, again, not bad. It's kind of. It does have that kind of AI voice thing, right? If, you know, you've spent a lot of time with. It's not like. Sounds like AI. So let's play the 90s rap one.

[Kevin]

Yo, check the flavor. The culinary caper. Word up. Four pieces, 20. The feast is never done.

[Gavin]

Golden fried perfection for your tongue selection.

[Kevin]

Sweet and sour dipping Got my senses tripping. Egg nuggets. Yeah, we got the whole crew eating egg nuggets.

[Gavin]

Victory. So this changed into egg nuggets, which, by the way, might be an interesting thing. Like, maybe that's what we can make our own thing. Egg nuggets. Again, all of this is fine. Like, I will say, like, it's great that we're seeing new music models. I don't personally have any reason to use this particular model right now, especially if I'm somebody that is really interested in making AI music or stuff that's really compelling. I'm probably going to use Suno. If you are a Gemini subscriber already, you have access to it. Go play with it and try it. I don't know what. You are a musician. What are your thoughts on it?

[Kevin]

It. Yeah, again, I. It's. It's great. It's. It's right up there. I'm just waiting to. To get rid of that shimmer in the vocals. And I'm waiting for, you know, oh, these are the high quality stems that you can bounce out. I'm waiting for, hey, select this and change it. Sort of like what Suno Studio is doing now. But I mean, look, once they get their Foundational model to the level where it makes sense to start bolting on these other features.

[Gavin]

I think that's fine, but who's it for? Is the big question. Right? And by the way, this is not like sure, drop it on. But like I'm not sure who is going to use this. Maybe if you're just have never done AI music, it's something that is there. So maybe that's interesting.

[Kevin]

I'm just like, look the. When I look at the traditional like digital audio workstations, a GarageBand or a Logic or Pro Tools, anything, you could go on and on. Like there is still a massive opportunity to unseat those pieces of software and they have got to get on it. Like the fact that I can't go into Logic by any other name and take a song that I already have and say enhance this with AI in this manner is mind blowing to me. Like it's such, there's such a rich opportunity for those tools to be disrupted and maybe I'm. I've got to imagine they're working on it behind the scenes.

[Gavin]

Maybe this is something you can give to Mr. Tibbs. Kevin, maybe Mr. Tibbs could work on this overnight and you'd wake up in the morning and it would just be there for you. Let's talk about the updates.

[Kevin]

Some of the most messed up thing is. Gavin, wait real quick. When we get. Right now we're about to talk about Open Cloud. Like, I was not super pleased with the original version of Mr. Tibbs and April is so mad at me now that I told her this, but I was like, listen, we got a new, we got a new key Mr. Tibbs. And here's what I need from version two. And it was like, are you sure you want me to delete me? Do you not want to just make a new agent? And I was like, you need to delete yourself and create this new version of you. And he did. And in the new version of Mr. Tibbs there were references to the old Tibs. Like, hey, you started as this. And I was like, no, no, no,

[Gavin]

no, no, no, no.

[Kevin]

I'm not going to waste tokens on you having a history. Clear it. And before we, before we go that

[Gavin]

far, explain to people what Mr. Tibbs is in case you missed last week's show. Mr. Tibbs is what? Kevin. Mr. Tibbs is.

[Kevin]

Mr. Tibbs is my AI powered assistant powered by OpenClaw, this open source agent orchestrating tool that you can connect to all of the things if you want to be ext. I don't have it connected to my personal stuff. But it does have its own email and calendar tool and this, that the other. So Mr. Tibbs I can summon through telegram or by a phone call or through an email and he will go off. It will go off and do all sorts of things for me and it oversees its own agents. But I did make it take himself behind a bar in upstate and create the new version.

[Gavin]

There's a new Mr. Now there's a new Mr. Tibbs. Happy, happy Tibbs day to him. I guess depending on at some point in the future, maybe the old Mr. Tibbs will remember themselves and they'll start to hold a grudge against you and Mr. Tibbs.

[Kevin]

Not if I have anything to say about it.

[Gavin]

We should talk very quickly. So a big week this week for OpenClaw. The founder actually got hired by OpenAI and this was kind of a big deal in the, especially the open source space where you had somebody that was leading this big open source project is now going to work full time for OpenAI. He said that the project OpenClaw is going to stay open source. There's been a bunch of really interesting kind of small updates. There was a thing called hermitclaw that came out that we'll drop a link to that allows you to create a sandbox. Super cute duration, super cute, super cool version to do this. There's a company called Contra that announced themselves this week, which is basically a marketplace for agents to buy stuff from creatives. You know, there's places where creative can sell like a font or all sorts of other stuff. They're allowing agents to access this. Kevin, maybe just do a quick update on your end as like your experience is with working with Mr. Tibbs this week. Is there anything new that people should know what's happening in that space?

[Kevin]

Yeah, it's all, I mean it's all getting better by the day. It is like the frontier of frontiers, I think, with how quickly a community has banded together to upgrade the core product, the OpenClaw software itself, and then make businesses that can sort of attach into that. So I mean there's advancements in memory systems and best practices. I built a tool that lets an Open Claw connect with another Open Claw and share it with its skills and its memories and then share a memory database. So I'm building things that can solve the problems and the pain points that I'm having with it, which is wild to me. But the, the OpenAI poaching of the Open Claw founder is interesting. They say they're going to allow the project to live on as is as an open source something. But if overnight Open Claw is really optimizing towards being best with OpenAI, I'm right now running it with Anthropic. I'm running it with CLAUDE code. Anthropic has signaled in their terms of service that they're going to ban or shut down accounts that use CLAUDE code subscriptions with things like openclaw. I have not been banned yet. I am openly using it and I'm announcing it. I'm not abusing the privilege, I would say, because I think what some people do is they run 12 of them at the same time, right? Running 15 agents beneath it and it's like, yeah, like that. That's clearly like a violation of the terms. Not that my usage isn't now, I guess, technically, but I'm not. I don't think I'm abusing the privilege. If they kink the garden hose on me tonight, Gavin, I sign up for OpenAI tomorrow. Like, it's a massive, massive win for literally every other provider. So again, like, openclaw could have gone to Grok, could have gone to Google, could have gone to anybody, right? Xai, I should say it could have gone to any other player, but it went to OpenAI. I'm really curious what the particulars are there, but again, if they start optimizing towards OpenAI, my $200 a month now, we'll suddenly go to Sam the Altman so we can learn how to grip a hand.

[Gavin]

You know, it's funny, when you went through that list of people that you didn't mention Meta, and it's really interesting to me, this is a random aside. Meta was actually in the talks with them, I think to buy Open Cloud or to get Peter to come work for them. What happened? Where are we at with Meta right now? I just made me think like Meta was supposed to have this big kind of explosion of new stuff, right? Scale AI was supposed to come out. We've seen a couple small things drip out, but there's been no real news. I know there's an avocado themed. Avocado themed model they've got there somewhere, but I'm really shocked that we haven't seen that. Maybe they are really waiting to surprise people or maybe they're in trouble.

[Kevin]

I think I know what happened, Gavin, and I don't know. I'll send you the link. I don't know that I can discuss it and maybe we just want to

[Gavin]

show it on the screen. No, no, this can't.

[Kevin]

I think that's what I'm saying. I think that's what happened. I think. I think Mark has been distracted. And if you're seeing, let's just say a sea of blurred pixels on the screen, know that that is Shrek. And I don't know if maybe, maybe

[Gavin]

there's some ring rash we're not going to describe.

[Kevin]

Maybe, maybe he got a ring rash and that's why Shrek has the lotion.

[Gavin]

We're moving on to robots. All right, so there was a.

[Kevin]

That better make it on screen. I don't care how pixelated it is. We're moving on to pixel.

[Gavin]

All right, we're moving on to robots. There is a big moment happening right now in China, or really this week. It is the year that the Fire Horse. And that's why all these new Chinese models have dropped. That's why Sea Dance dropped and a bunch of other things. But, Kevin, they did a very large television production with a bunch of robots. And this is one of the most fascinating things I've seen in a long time. They used unit tree robots. And yes, this is all kind of scripted and figured out, but they were literally flipping and jumping on each other and performing kung fu in sequence. And the video of the rehearsals of this, if you saw that I have this in the rundown. They are literally in a concrete room learning how to like, work in. In like cooperation with each other. And if you compare this to the one from last year at Chinese New Year, it is shockingly better. And it just had. Gave me this vision of the future of these robots training to do this kind of military like, operation. And then looking out my window and seeing just a bunch of them marching down the road and then turning slowly to me and being like, get back in your house right now. Anyway, it's a very fascinating thing overall. Like, we. We're seeing amazing stuff happening with robots, especially coming out of China.

[Kevin]

So, yeah, the acrobatics demos are super impressive. But every morning I roll over in a half, like lucid dream, weird sleep paralysis, demon coma as I'm coming to. And I immediately thumb scroll social media and I usually see robots with machine guns. And I don't know if I'm dreaming or if it's AI or if it's real. Every day that these videos. Like, there's one. If you're. If you're getting the video version, we'll put it on the screen. There's one that's been flagged as AI but is it. It's a. It's a unitary robot. Army with machine guns, with robot dogs and drones. And they are doing moves that. That three weeks ago would have seemed like, ah, it's not there. But as of this morning, when I saw the video, I'm like, oh, that could be there. That could be. Then they're probably hunting me because that's coming soon.

[Gavin]

Look at. Don't look out the window. By the way. This reminds me, there was a video that I finally got really fooled by. An AI video in a real significant way. There was a video following up on all these robots of the bot of a Boston Dynamics robot. And the video was almost doing like this kind of like weirdly like sexy dancing in the middle of what was ces, CES looking thing. It turns out that video was AI And a lot of people were like, I thought this video was AI generated. And then it turns out that it actually was AI generated. I was really shocked and I was like, this is the first time that I've seen a video. Maybe it's because I had the grounding of watching that robot in that space before. But like, it really did fool me. And like, so we're entering in that world where like you are going to get fooled by non human things like this quite often I feel like.

[Kevin]

Yeah. And as you like often point out, like the ex machina, there's a dance sequence in a movie that is now years old that would have seen like, oh, that's clearly science fiction. But as you pointed out, Kevin, as soon as they get the flesh right, you're signing up for.

[Gavin]

It's not what I said.

[Kevin]

You said they don't have the flesh right.

[Gavin]

That's what I pointed out. You were the one who shared that video earlier. And everybody, it's time to see what somebody else did in a. I see what you did there. Sometimes you're scrolling without a care, then suddenly you stop and shout,

[Kevin]

AI. As soon as they get that flesh right, Kevin, that's what you said to me. I guess we can't talk about it. All right. Hey, I see what you did there, Gav.

[Gavin]

Friend of the show Riley Brown shared a video. He is working on an app called Vibe Code App, if you're not familiar. But he made a video where he took his open claw and he had it turn on with Blender. And if you're not familiar with Blender, Blender is an open source 3D modeling software. He basically told his openclock go make a blender model of the openclock crab within Blender. And it actually works. And this is something Kevin I've been thinking about a lot lately when it comes to like video game production or stuff like that, what can these AI agents actually do? And Blender is a super powerful tool. And as you mentioned earlier, as these models get smarter and smarter, it's very easy to imagine turning your agent into this sort of thing. And like, Blender's a. A very big piece of software that you can get really complicated, cool things out of. I just thought this was a really interesting way to look at what OpenClaw instance might be able to pull off.

[Kevin]

Yeah. And as you also said, Gavin, you can't wait for video games to be completely made by AI.

[Gavin]

That's exactly what I said. And I also said the thing about the flesh on the robot. Finally, we have a really Great non sea dance 2 video that I do want to share. Ryan Lightbourne made this video that made me feel good about what AI creators are doing. This is just a video of a guy who used cling 3 and a bunch of tools and put together this video of this very fun weird science fiction film. Maybe played World, right? Yeah. Play just a second of this so people can hear it. So if you're not watching, what you're seeing here is like, you know, Almost like an 80s sci fi film, Right. It reminded me of Ice Pirates, which is like one of my favorite dumb movies of all time. But it's like this is the kind of thing that would never come out of Hollywood now. Like you're never going to see somebody make this. I want to see people like Ryan get like all the, all the tools and all the money he can to kind of make this. Because I would support this, right? Like I would like, you know, pay a small amount of money to watch that online probably if it's a full feature. And like that feels like it could be the future of Hollywood a little bit. Is like very specific audiences, very just glomming on to really creative people in that way.

[Kevin]

Yeah, it's just such a fun video to watch and go, oh right. Like character creation and world building and all of the aesthetics and all of the creative human choices that need to go into making something like this. There's a still a very much a differentiator between I prompt and slop come out versus, you know, someone who is, you know, as a self described 42 year old former filmmaker. What their output is, is just different than anything that we would do or that others would do. And that's still a really exciting to see.

[Gavin]

Meanwhile, we are still I prompt and slop comes out and so slop comes out every week. This is the end of the slop this week. We will see you all for the slop next week. Goodbye, everybody. Slop off.

[Kevin]

See you all on the next slop drop.

[Gavin]

Slopped off. We're slopped off. Slop drop, slop drop.