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App Store Today on the podcast, we're talking about Sam Altman, who has been talking about OpenAI's new AI device. There's a lot of mystery. We don't know what's going on. He he merged with Jony Ives company for I think over a billion dollars, if I'm not mistaken on this. And with all of that, they're going to be coming out with an AI device. Now this is a tricky place. Sam Altman's been talking a lot about it. He said that the new AI device is going to be more peaceful and calm than the iPhone. So that is, I mean, it's kind of an interesting tidbit. We're going to get into what people are saying about it and some speculations on what this might actually be. What's interesting here, though, is this is coming at a time where basically all of the major AI devices that have come out have flopped in some way or another. People aren't using them. And I was actually testing an AI device just last night on another podcast and the reviews on that were not phenomenal either. So we have a lot to talk about when it comes to the devices and wearables. But before we do, we wanted to tell you about the AI Hustle school community. So for those that are that don't know, every single week we record an exclusive piece of content. This week I recorded a we recorded a video where I showed you some analytics from my own podcast. I've translated my AI chat podcast into multiple languages. I show you the analytics of how many streams other languages get, how much it costs to dub a video into another language, how to have it clone your own voice, like go into a lot of details on that, which I think is interesting and applicable to a lot of industries. But beyond that, we have almost 100 videos over there breaking down different tools and tips on how to grow and scale your business with AI. So if you are interested, we have a Black Friday discount right now where you can get access for $19 a month. And there is also an annual plan that is 30% off of that discounted price. So if you want to go check it out, it is linked in this description. It is the school, the AI Hustle school community. All right, let's get into what's going on with Sam Altman. I guess what was your, what was your thoughts on the device here?
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Yeah, so the biggest thing that I was kind of surprised by, at least at first, was that there's going to be no screen on this device. Potential device. That's kind of like the biggest, the biggest news, the biggest reveal here. He just, Sam Altman described this as a more calming, calming, peaceful device than compared to like an iPhone. So I think that's a really interesting idea. And in my head I'm, I'm trying to figure out, you know, how all this will work together. But, you know, more and more each day I find myself using OpenAI's products for different tasks. Whether it's contract law with real estate or, you know, how to fix my air conditioner, there's all these different tasks that I use it for. And so I could really see this, this device being really handy as a way to potentially categorize the different types of things I use ChatGPT for and then help me, you know, when I need it, but not necessarily have to pull my phone out during, during a task. You know, I think the, there's a lot of trendy dumb phones right now that are coming out where they basically don't have all the social media distraction type apps. And it's mostly just for function. And I think this is kind of the next level to that because now if you can have a device, a wearable device that will kind of help you with all your problems, all your different tasks, and then you have just a communication device that's really all you need if you're trying to maximize productivity in a workday. So I kind of see this thing being geared towards productivity and working, working. But Jaden, what do you picture this device being used for? What are your thoughts?
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Yeah, so, I mean, it is interesting. I like your point about like the dumb, the dumb phones. I definitely think there's a huge appeal. I've like researched them very extensively. My wife actually had a, like, like Caterpillar, like the tractor company. They have like a flip phone that they've made. It looks like a brick. And she wanted to like do a, do a phone detox screen time, detox. And so she used that phone for. I don't want to, I don't want to down talk it. It was at least six months, might have been nine months that she used that phone. It was a crazy learning curve though on like how to do everything. It was an Android phone, I'll say. So even though the screen is like this tiny little screen on one half of the flip up, like she could get Google Maps so she could actually use it for like GPS and stuff, which was hilarious. She like have it open in the, in the car, sitting there on this little screen and it would. She just use the audio so it'd like talk, like turn left at the. Whatever. I don't, I usually. Look, I don't use the audio. But that's how she did it anyways. She like kind of figured out how to like work her whole life around that. And there was zero dopamine. I mean, I think technically because it was Android, you could download TikTok or something. She didn't. But like, even if you did, there was no dopamine of watching YouTube on like 5 megapixels, you know what I mean? So you just, you just like don't do that. It's so frustrating to do almost anything, um, that you just like really minimize your phone use. So I see a major appeal here. What's interesting is he said there is no screen. I see how you could get around no screen and you can actually do some interesting apps. Like, like I mentioned, you could probably do a Google Maps like this. What's interesting is he compares it to the iPhone the most. Right. Like, and so it feels like he's like trying to replace the iPhone. I'm going to be honest, I think that there's already a device that is crushed in this category and that's the meta smart glasses. I, I think you're going to be hard pressed to beat that form factor because with the meta smart glasses, it has a microphone that can hear you. It has a speaker right next to your ear. You can talk to AI and it will give you responses. And also the camera can see what you're doing. And once they start doing all the superimposing on your screen in front of you, so for directions and stuff, it can display. I think that is the best form factor for not having to pull out a phone. You could just have it right there. Now I know some people are like, oh no, now your screen is permanently in front of you. Um, I think it's gonna be something like, if I'm not mistaken, I think it's gonna be something like that flip phone where it's not that convenient. Like you're not scrolling on TikTok on it. Right. It's just kind of augmenting some things you see and useful apps. I know people are concerned about ads showing up on there. I sure hope there's a subscription I can pay to never see an ad forcibly popping up on my glasses. Or maybe you just pay a lot for the glasses or it's just more AI usage for meta. So I mean that would be my concern would be ads. But I really think that the glasses is the winning form factor here. My imagination on this is that Sam Alton's gonna come up with stone or something that you can keep in your pocket and you can talk to it maybe. And that's probably because this is, this is what they said about it. He said, quote, when I use current devices or most applications, I feel like I'm walking through Times Square in New York City and constantly just dealing with all the little indignities along the way. Flashing lights in my face, people bumping into me like noises going off. And it's an unsettling thing. Anyways, so he thinks that like we can create this new no dopamine, no social media app like world basically with his new device. Because I'm thinking like this thing's probably like a little puck, a little chip and you can talk to it and it can give you information or navigate you somewhere. It could basically just like talk to you, but not give you any sort of visual cue. That's kind of what I'm getting from it.
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That's interesting. Yeah, that could be something like that. I feel like in order for it to be a really useful device, you're going to have to give all of your device connections and passwords and everything to it so that it can observe you and kind of learn your behavior. Because that's the other piece is like if you're actually trying to get work done and use this tool, it's gonna have to know what your daily tasks tasks are and what you're. You're doing. So how's it going to do that if there's no observational piece to it? You know, I feel like just like if it was only voice activated, it would kind of just be like a fancy Alexa or like meta smart glasses like you said. So I feel like there's gotta be some kind of. Which that's where the security risks maybe would be a concern.
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To me.
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But there's gotta be an observational piece too where it can kind of learn your behavior and, and then perform tasks for you. Similar to a company we talked about a couple weeks ago. I don't know if it was on the Atlas browser or not, but basically you can observe your behavior on your computer and learn your, your daily tasks. But I don't know.
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That is a great point. Okay, I think you have an amazing point there, which is that because it's tied into ChatGPT, if you use ChatGPT, it's going to be able to use your memory and context of all your Chat GPT conversations. So actually we'll know a lot more about you just from that. The other thing that it probably will have is a microphone on there that just listens to everything you say and do. Kind of friend or I think, yeah, I think it's friend.com. they made like a little necklace that you wear with a microphone that listens to everything you do. That didn't do incredibly well. There was Rabbit that tried to make their R1 device. It didn't do incredibly well. Of course there was. I'm blanking on the name, but there was like the one that you clipped onto your shirt and that whole company went bankrupt basically and sold off. So I mean, I can't believe I forgot their name already. I mean that it just goes to show, you go bankrupt and you, you disappear for everyone's brains. But here's an interesting thing. I think there' so much hype around Sam Altman's device. I just, I fail to see how it's going to live up to the hype. But I do like all the hype train. But just, just get this. This is how he described it. When someone's like, so like, can you describe your device? He's like, he's like, it's gonna be like sitting in the most beautiful cabin by a lake in the mountains and just sort of enjoying the peace and the calm. Like, dude, what the heck does that even mean? Like, basically your puck is gonna have a speaker and it's gonna play you meditation music. Like, okay, sure you're not sitting by a mountain in the cabin in the lake? Like, okay, anyways, I thought that was pretty ridiculous. He said that it should be able to filter out things for users and that you're going to trust AI to do a lot of things over time. It's going to be contextually aware about when it's best time to present information to the user and ask for input. So essentially it's going to have an always on listening microphone and it's going to like chime in. So like if you're working on something and you're talking to someone, it's going to like chime in and be like, oh, don't forget. It's like if we're having this conversation right now and I forgot the name of the clip on company, which now I'm literally going crazy. But like, I forget the name of that, it probably would just like chime from my pocket and be like, oh, the name of the company you're forgetting is blah, blah, blah. And I'd be like, all right, thanks and just move on with my life. I'm assuming it's going to be like sort of useful like that. But I've recently tested another device that I'm not, I'm not a fan of. But would you use like an always on listening device in your pocket? Jamie?
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I don't know. That's the quote I didn't like from this article is that you trust it over time and it does just have this incredible contextual awareness of your whole life. That kind of freaks me out a little bit. So yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I would use this outside of a work setting. That's the other thing too. With Sam Altman and a lot of these people with these ideas, it's like, oh, we just want this to make your life easier and blah, blah, blah. I think at the end of the day you got to think about what the customer wants too. And I feel like people like to be entertained by the flashy screen, by the social media apps and so I don't think this, this device will be for everybody. I think like I said, I think it's more geared towards productivity and that sort of thing, not your necessarily everyday person.
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Yeah. Okay. I have one quote that I think falls in line with my prediction and that is that Jony, I've in an interview said I love solutions that teeter on appearing almost naive in their simplicity. Okay, I guarantee you guys this thing looks just like a pebble. And he said, I also love incredibly intelligent, sophisticated products that you want to touch and you want and you feel no intimidation and you want to use almost carelessly, that you use them almost without thought, that they're just tools. I guarantee this is just like a pebble that's like a weight on your thing and people use it as a fidget toy and they just like hold it and it's like their best pebble friend. Okay, here's what I don't like. I recently tested out the Be Smart watch from Amazon. Actually acquired this company called Bee. And it's a watch that basically sits on your wrist and it can record what you're saying and then it gives you, like, transcripts. So it's kind of like when you do a zoom call and there's all the AI zoom companions that people have and it like, it's like a note taker. It's like supposed to do that but for your whole life. I'll tell you what's annoying about it, a couple things. Number one, you have to have the app opened and on in order for it to record, which is like, so dumb that I would have to think about pulling out my phone and turning the app on, because at that point I might as well just have it recording on my phone. Why do whatever, right? And the other thing is you have to push a button on your wrist to start the recording. And then there's a bunch of, like, other, like, limitations about it just basically not being that good. But, like, so all this to say, like, I've tried some of these other devices and I'm sure Johnny I've is going to make it great. And the microphone will work really good and the transcription will tie into ChatGPT. So it's going to work really good. But like, I don't know, it's just, it's, it's, it's not for everyone, but it'll be interesting to see, to see what happens here. All right, guys, thank you so much for tuning into the podcast today. If you learned anything new, if you are excited for this, let us know. And if you're not planning on getting it, drop a comment either way on the show. We appreciate all of the reviews, so leave your review letting us know if you're going to get this device or not. And make sure to go check out the AI Hustle school community. Remember Black Friday discount this week. And we just added an annual plan which is 30% off of the Black Friday discount. It is an insanely good deal if you want to grow and scale your business with AI in 2026. All right, guys, hope you have a fantastic rest of your day.
Podcast: AI Hustle: Make Money from AI and ChatGPT, Midjourney, NVIDIA, Anthropic, OpenAI
Hosts: Jaeden Schafer and Jamie McCauley
Episode: The Future of AI Devices: Sam Altman's Vision
Date: November 25, 2025
In this episode, Jaeden and Jamie explore the buzz and speculation around OpenAI CEO Sam Altman’s forthcoming AI device, made in partnership with Jony Ive’s company. With a promise of a “more peaceful and calm” experience than the iPhone—and no screen—this mysterious device has sparked excitement and skepticism. The hosts dissect what’s known, critique the current state of AI gadgets, and debate whether Altman’s vision is groundbreaking or overhyped.
Jaeden relates his wife’s experience using a minimal flip phone for a digital detox, underscoring the struggle and low dopamine, but ultimate productivity boost, without a smartphone screen.
He compares form factors: “There’s already a device that has crushed in this category and that’s the Meta Smart Glasses.” [05:40]
“With the Meta smart glasses... you can talk to AI and it will give you responses. And also the camera can see what you’re doing... I think that is the best form factor for not having to pull out a phone.” – Jaeden [06:02]
Jaeden speculates the OpenAI device might end up being “like a little puck, a little chip you can talk to… but not give you any sort of visual cue.” [07:21]
Raises concerns about advertising with new form factors—hoping for ad-free subscription models.
Jamie notes for such a device to truly “learn your behavior,” it may need deep access to user data, raising privacy and security questions.
“In order for it to be a really useful device, you’re going to have to give all your device connections and passwords… There’s got to be some kind of observational piece to it.” – Jamie [07:48]
Jaeden adds that ChatGPT's existing context and memory could provide the device with “a lot more about you.”
References previous failed attempts: Rabbit R1, clip-on devices, and friend.com’s microphone necklace.
Altman’s marketing hyperbole is critiqued—quoting Altman’s analogy:
“It’s going to be like sitting in the most beautiful cabin by a lake in the mountains and just sort of enjoying the peace and the calm.” – Sam Altman (quoted by Jaeden) [09:13]
Jaeden jokes about what this really means: “So your puck is gonna have a speaker and it’s gonna play you meditation music.” [09:21]
Main feature hypothesized: an always-on microphone that brings up relevant information during conversations contextually.
Jamie expresses reservations:
“That kind of freaks me out a little bit... I don’t know if I would use this outside of a work setting.” [10:57]
She doubts the universal appeal, arguing the entertainment value of screens still draws most users—predicts the device will appeal more to productivity-minded, tech-centric professionals.
Jaeden reads a Jony Ive quote to predict the design direction:
“I love solutions that teeter on appearing almost naive in their simplicity... incredibly intelligent, sophisticated products that you want to touch and you feel no intimidation... you use them almost without thought.” [11:41]
Jaeden predicts a pebble-like, fidget-toy form factor: “...people use it as a fidget toy and they just like hold it and it’s like their best pebble friend.” [11:56]
He shares disappointment about current “smart” accessories, like the Be Smart Watch, particularly usability quirks like needing to manually start/stop recording.
Concludes that while intriguing, these devices are unlikely to be for everyone—awaits to see how the OpenAI device actually delivers.
On the flood of unsuccessful AI devices:
“Basically all of the major AI devices that have come out have flopped in some way or another.” – Jaeden [00:58]
On screenless design:
“There’s going to be no screen on this device... more calming, peaceful than the iPhone.” – Jamie [02:42]
On the challenge of form factor:
“I think you’re going to be hard pressed to beat that form factor [Meta Smart Glasses]...” – Jaeden [05:50]
On the risk of advertising:
“I sure hope there’s a subscription I can pay to never see an ad forcibly popping up on my glasses.” – Jaeden [06:38]
On privacy and trust:
“You trust it over time and it does just have this incredible contextual awareness of your whole life—that kind of freaks me out a little bit.” – Jamie [10:57]
On design philosophy:
“I love solutions that teeter on appearing almost naive in their simplicity.” – Jony Ive (read by Jaeden) [11:39]
The discussion is enthusiastic yet skeptical, blending personal experience, technical critique, and humorous skepticism. Both hosts see promise in the calm, minimalist vision touted by Sam Altman and Jony Ive, but recognize the formidable hurdles—privacy, usability, and mass appeal—that have sunk so many prior attempts at AI hardware. The episode is an engaging, accessible primer for anyone curious about the next wave of AI-powered devices.