Transcript
Natalia (0:00)
For AI to be useful to a company, it needs to be a coordinated effort. Claudie is our project manager for the consulting work that we do with our clients.
Dan (0:10)
You just launched four sub agents to, like, look through your Gmail, look through your calendar, look through your drive, look through your meetings to, like, get context on the project. And then it's going to go and gather that information and then put it in the right place into the spreadsheets that you use to run the business. Just want to pause and be like, that is. That's crazy. That's kind of crazy.
Natalia (0:27)
I mean, the only thing that's crazier is that the alternative to Claudia doing this is me doing this. I am a bonafide vibe code addict at this point.
Dan (0:53)
Natalia, welcome to the show.
Natalia (0:54)
Hey, Dan, Good to see you. Happy to be here.
Dan (0:57)
Good to see you too. So for people who don't know you are the head of consulting at every. We've known each other for a really long time. You've never been on the podcast, even though you've been head of consulting for a while now. I think you've been with us for like nine months or so, and you've done a fantastic job. So I'm just really excited to get you on the podcast and share who you are and what you know with people.
Natalia (1:16)
Thanks. Yeah, I. I love our community and the podcast and just excited to chat and also hear how other people are thinking about consulting, you know, and. And AI in their companies. And so, yeah, happy to be here.
Dan (1:31)
Awesome. So one of the things I think could be super helpful for you to share is over the last nine months, you've had a front row seat, talk to some of the top companies in the world about how to do how they do AI deployments. And those are people that have reached out just to chat. Those are clients that we work with, do a lot of training and integration implementation work with like hedge funds, PE firms, Fortune 500 companies, lots of name brands that you know about. And so I just feel like you've had this front row seat for what works and what doesn't. And like, what are the patterns that the companies that are really doing well at AI adoption, AI transformation are following. And I'd love for you to share some of those things.
Natalia (2:19)
Yeah, that's true. I mean, I think we have in a really unique position in the consulting work that we do at every. Because, I mean, I personally have spoken to over 100 companies in the past year, hearing their concerns around how they could be using AI, trying to benchmark how other competitors might be using AI and then trying to get a sense of what actually works. And it really comes down to two things. We talked about this in a post that we did a few months ago about kind of the learnings from those hundred companies that we talked to or so. And one is you really need an organized effort when it comes to using AI well in a company. For AI to be useful to a company, it needs to be a coordinated effort. For AI to be a high leverage tool at any given company, it needs to come from the top down. So unlike historic kind of like software where someone heard that Asana was helpful for a company to use, then they just let the CTO sort of buy it and then hope that people would use it if there isn't a coordinated effort to understand what the possibilities are in using AI at a company, creating tailored opportunities to actually getting leverage and value out of those sort of use cases, and then tracking how people are actually using it and then really implementing the ways in which it works really well. I really kind of doesn't go nowhere. It ends up being that there are like a few high powered users that get a ton of leverage out of it and then everyone else is sort of, sort of floundering. And so there's really two things that we see working well at companies. One is it comes from the top down. So leadership understands that this is a really high leverage tool and it's fundamentally changing the way that we think and relate to work. And two, they're really giving people an opportunity to become champions and owners of what it means to work with AI and creative power, to explore how to rethink their roles and, and how to train other peers and other people to use AI really effectively given kind of this new paradigm that we're in. So coming from the top down, there's a coordinated effort and people, AI champions really being empowered to think creatively, try, experiment, fail around AI initiatives and then really doubling down on the things that really work.
