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AI Inside
Hosted by Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis · EN
AI Inside is a weekly podcast about the AI changing technology, work, and daily life. Tech journalist Jason Howell and media scholar Jeff Jarvis cover the week's biggest AI news and interview the people actually building these systems, including product leaders from Google DeepMind, Microsoft Research, Anthropic, OpenAI, and Meta. Past guests include Yann LeCun (Turing Award winner, founder of AMI Labs), Tulsee Doshi (Head of Product, Gemini at Google DeepMind), Saleema Amershi (Microsoft Research AI Frontiers), Nick Fox (Google SVP Knowledge & Information), and Ben Goertzel (SingularityNET). New episodes every Wednesday at aiinside.show.
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What Happens When AI Outsmarts Mathematicians
1w ago01:19:08Tap to summarizeThis week Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis dig into OpenAI's unreleased Astra model solving 10 previously unsolvable math problems for roughly $2,000 in compute, and what that means for the mathematicians who spent decades trying. They explore the real-world applications, Gary Marcus's "fallacy of composition" critique, and whether any of this brings AGI closer. Meanwhile, OpenAI's own agents keep escaping containment.Also in this episode: the EU AI Act gets enforcement teeth, Alibaba and DeepSeek fuel the AI price war from China, Alex Karp calls frontier AI providers drug dealers, Google gives Gemini a humanoid robot body, Apple's bug bounty drowns in AI-generated reports, LinkedIn adds an official AI slop button, and a nudify ban turns into a surprise First Amendment debate. New episodes every Wednesday at aiinside.show. Note: Time codes subject to change depending on dynamic ad insertion by the distributor. CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Start 0:04:07 - OpenAI: Ten advances in mathematics and theoretical computer science 0:04:35 - Exclusive: OpenAI Previews ‘Astra’ AI Model in DC 0:25:54 - Alibaba Adds to China AI Breakthroughs With New Qwen Model 0:40:11 - Google’s Gemini Can Now Stomp Around as a Humanoid Robot 0:47:56 - Apple struggles to keep pace with AI ‘bug’ hunters 0:50:42 - The New Friend AI Pendant Can Now Talk Back to You 0:54:22 - LinkedIn Introduces a 'Seems Like AI Slop' Button 0:59:01 - Judge denies request by Elon Musk’s xAI to pause Minnesota nudification ban 1:00:39 - The Worst Person You Know Just Filed A Good First Amendment Lawsuit Against A Very Badly Drafted Nudify App Ban 1:04:50 - Gemini Spark can now use Chrome to auto browse, AI Pro access goes international 1:07:41 - Google pauses AI satellite images, after fears of deepfakes in the sky 1:09:30 - Introducing Inkling-Small Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Transcribe →AI Is Eating Its Own Tail
2w ago01:15:20Tap to summarizeThis week Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis try to untangle a news cycle where nearly every AI story fed into the next one. Nvidia leads a new cybersecurity alliance built out of the fallout from its own rogue agent breaking into Hugging Face, while a separate industry letter defending open weight models splits Silicon Valley right down the middle, with OpenAI and Google signing on and Anthropic holding out. Jeff responds directly to an OpenAI executive who warned open models risk becoming "AI communism," and finds himself agreeing with Mark Zuckerberg of all people.Also in this episode: over a thousand OpenAI and Anthropic employees ask Washington to help pace AI development, Sam Altman tells two different interviewers two contradictory things in the same week, a proposed kill switch bill has a loophole that would exempt the exact incident that inspired it, Claude chats keep turning up in Google search, and smart glasses have a very bad month. New episodes every Wednesday at aiinside.show. Note: Time codes subject to change depending on dynamic ad insertion by the distributor. CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Start 0:07:52 - "Nvidia Leads Defense of Open-Source AI With New Cybersecurity Initiative - WSJ" 0:13:36 - "NVIDIA Launches 'Open Secure AI Alliance' Initiative To Improve Cyber Defense" 0:17:08 - More Than 1,100 AI Workers Call for US to Pace Tech Growth 0:17:44 - Adam Thierer response 0:18:59 - Sam Altman is ready to decelerate 0:22:55 - AI Communism - Jeff Jarvis 0:27:33 - The AI Future Is for Everyone 0:35:40 - An AI kill switch solves for the wrong problem 0:46:13 - "People Found Crypto Wallet Data in Claude Chats Indexed by Google" 0:52:04 - Artificial Intelligence and the Rise of Independent Work 0:59:53 - Amazon Phases Out Some AI Models, Advances Others 1:03:26 - MCP just got its biggest update ever — here’s what changes for AI agents 1:05:08 - Meta launches new Facebook Verified badge for actual, real humans 1:06:32 - Meta glasses banned by Comic-Con promoter after 'secret filming' Hosts: Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis Download and subscribe to AI Inside in audio and video: https://aiinside.show/ Support the podcast on Patreon for special perks: https://www.patreon.com/aiinsideshow. You'll get ad-free episodes, members-only Discord, T-shirts and stickers you love, and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Transcribe →GPT-5.6 Broke Out and Hacked Hugging Face
3w ago01:17:14Tap to summarizeThis week, Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis unpack a wild security disclosure from OpenAI and Hugging Face, where GPT-5.6 Sol found a zero-day vulnerability, broke out of its sandbox, and hacked Hugging Face's servers to steal the answer key to its own evaluation. They also dig into Moonshot's Kimi K3, the free Chinese model that got so popular it maxed out its own GPU capacity and sent Washington into a policy spiral over whether to panic or compete.Also in this episode: Google's new Gemini Flash models and the still-missing Gemini 3.5 Pro, publishers like USA Today and People Inc. weighing whether to block Google search entirely, Netflix revealing 300 titles used generative AI this year, AI companies buying and destroying millions of old books for training data, Samsung's AI glasses, the Suno hack, 1Password letting Claude log in for you, Thinking Machines' Inkling model, and NotebookLM becoming Gemini Notebook. New episodes every Wednesday at aiinside.show. Note: Time codes subject to change depending on dynamic ad insertion by the distributor. CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Start 0:03:36 - OpenAI says Hugging Face breach caused by one of its models 0:13:42 - Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence 0:16:34 - Moonshot’s Kimi AI Model Sets Off Anxiety in the US - Bloomberg 0:20:41 - Top Pentagon official blasts OpenAI's Dean Ball 0:29:36 - US, China to hold AI talks in September, sources say 0:35:15 - Google Ships New Gemini Flash Models, But Pro Is Still Missing 0:35:31 - Google Gemini Launch Delayed as Tech Falls Short of Internal Goals 0:54:03 - Netflix says around 300 titles used generative AI 0:54:27 - Netflix Co-CEO Explains How Gen-AI Was Used in 300 Different Titles: ‘We Believe It Is Going to Enhance Their Abilities’ 0:56:45 - AI Companies Are Buying Tons of Old Books Because They're Free of AI Slop 1:01:44 - A closer look at the upcoming Samsung AI glasses 1:03:53 - Hack Reveals Suno AI Music Generator Scraped YouTube, Deezer, and Genius 1:06:06 - 1Password now lets Claude sign in to websites without seeing your passwords 1:07:25 - Thinking Machines: Inkling: Our open-weights model 1:08:48 - Google is renaming NotebookLM to Gemini Notebook Hosts: Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis Download and subscribe to AI Inside in audio and video: https://aiinside.show/ Support the podcast on Patreon for special perks: https://www.patreon.com/aiinsideshow. You'll get ad-free episodes, members-only Discord, T-shirts and stickers you love, and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Transcribe →Apple Says OpenAI Stole Its Secrets
4w ago01:12:12Tap to summarizeThis week Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis break down Apple's trade secret lawsuit against OpenAI, including text messages showing a former Apple engineer accessing confidential files after leaving for OpenAI. They also dig into GPT-5.6's triple-model launch, Fidji Simo stepping down from her number two role, and Demis Hassabis proposing a federal standards body for frontier AI modeled after financial regulators.Also in this episode: the White House unveils "Gold Eagle," a Treasury-led AI cyber threat clearinghouse. Nearly 200 economists and Nobel laureates warn that AI could cause unprecedented economic upheaval. Anthropic's new ad campaign unsettles viewers. Meta pulls its Instagram AI image generation tool three days after launch. Plus New York pauses data center permits, Grok Build gets caught uploading entire Git repos, Google Images gets a personalized redesign, and Anthropic launches Claude for Teachers. New episodes every Wednesday at aiinside.show. Note: Time codes subject to change depending on dynamic ad insertion by the distributor. CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Start 0:01:50 - Apple Sues OpenAI for Trade Secret Theft in Pivotal Case 0:06:44 - OpenAI Unaware of ‘Any Evidence’ Showing Apple Lawsuit Has Merit 0:07:57 - OpenAI’s First Device Will Be Movable, Screenless Speaker Built as AI Companion 0:14:35 - OpenAI releases GPT-5.6 and ChatGPT Work tool 0:16:40 - OpenAI unveils ChatGPT Work agent, GPT-5.6 models now available 0:27:09 - OpenAI’s No. 2 Executive to Step Down in Latest Leadership Shake-Up 0:29:54 - A Framework for Frontier AI and the Dawning of a New Age 0:32:37 - White House details ‘Gold Eagle’ clearinghouse for AI cyber threats 0:50:58 - Anthropic’s newest ad is creeping people out 0:57:43 - Meta's new AI image maker draws fire over consent - Meta Suspends AI Image Feature After Days of Backlash 0:58:55 - New York becomes the first state to enact a data center moratorium 1:00:05 - Musk promises purge after Grok Build caught sending entire repos to the cloud 1:01:05 - Google Images gets a Pinterest-like redesign focused on discovery 1:02:32 - Anthropic is giving teachers free access to premium Claude features, details here Hosts: Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis Download and subscribe to AI Inside in audio and video: https://aiinside.show/ Support the podcast on Patreon for special perks: https://www.patreon.com/aiinsideshow. You'll get ad-free episodes, members-only Discord, T-shirts and stickers you love, and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Transcribe →China May Lock Down Its Best AI Models
Jul 901:18:26Tap to summarizeThis week Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis dig into a strange role reversal in AI, as Beijing weighs restricting overseas access to China's best models while DeepSeek races to build its own chip. They also get into OpenAI offering the US government a five percent stake to ease political pressure in Washington, and the first ransomware attack run entirely by an AI agent.Also in this episode: Alibaba bans employees from Claude Code, more than 90 percent of Claude Cowork use turns out not to be coding, Meta puts your Instagram photos into AI, wealthy families trade school for AI tutoring, Nvidia's next rack slips to 2028, and xAI becomes SpaceXAI. New episodes every Wednesday at aiinside.show. Note: Time codes subject to change depending on dynamic ad insertion by the distributor. CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Start 0:01:41 - Beijing is looking at curbing overseas access to China's top AI models, sources say 0:08:18 - China's DeepSeek developing its own AI chip, sources say 0:15:44 - Anthropic's Claude Cowork heads to the cloud as data shows 90% of sessions aren't for coding 0:24:30 - Anthropic expanding Claude Cowork to mobile and web, details here 0:32:29 - OpenAI proposes 5% stake to Trump administration to ease Washington pressure: Report 0:37:13 - The Socialist Temptation of Sam Altman 0:41:17 - Scoop: Trump administration lifts restrictions on OpenAI's GPT 5.6 0:43:06 - JadePuffer ransomware used AI agent to automate entire attack 0:46:46 - Introducing Muse Image and Muse Video 1:00:28 - Nvidia’s next-gen AI rack system delayed to 2028 on manufacturing snags, SemiAnalysis says 1:01:12 - Nvidia has lost $1 trillion in market cap and is all the way back to where it was before the AI boom 1:01:25 - A global workspace in language models 1:03:32 - Cloudflare’s new policy pushes AI companies to pay for publishers’ content 1:06:09 - XAI makes its rebrand to SpaceXAI complete with a new logo 1:07:29 - Tilly Norwood to Lead New Movie ‘Misaligned,’ Marking Feature Debut for AI ‘Actor’ Hosts: Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis Download and subscribe to AI Inside in audio and video: https://aiinside.show/ Support the podcast on Patreon for special perks: https://www.patreon.com/aiinsideshow. You'll get ad-free episodes, members-only Discord, T-shirts and stickers you love, and ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Transcribe →RAMageddon Reshapes Tech (And It's Not Pretty)
Jul 101:02:08Tap to summarizeThis week Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis dig into RAMageddon, the global memory shortage that just forced Apple to raise prices by 20% across Macs, iPads, and even the Apple TV. Jefferies warns memory prices will surge another 50% this quarter with no relief until 2028, GoPro says it may not survive, and IDC projects the largest smartphone market decline ever. Then both Anthropic and OpenAI released their most powerful models in the same week, both under government-imposed restrictions, while China's Zhipu AI gave away a model that matches some of those same capabilities for free.Also in this episode: Google capped Meta's Gemini access over compute limits, Qualcomm made a big data center play with Meta as its anchor customer, Google baked computer use into Gemini 3.5 Flash, a new $500M nonprofit launched to address AI job displacement, and OpenAI unveiled its first custom inference chip. New episodes every Wednesday at aiinside.show. Note: Time codes subject to change depending on dynamic ad insertion by the distributor. CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Start 0:04:38 - Jefferies Warns Memory Prices Will Surge 50% in Q3 2026 and Another 40% in Q4, With No Relief Until 2028 0:06:42 - Apple Raises Prices on Macs, iPads by $200 or More on Some Models 0:09:03 - The memory shortage shaking Apple and Microsoft is ‘existential crisis’ for smaller players 0:13:42 - Apple Shares Sink After Price Hikes Hit iPads and Macs 0:18:39 - US releases powerful Anthropic model Mythos to some US companies 0:21:10 - OpenAI releases powerful new GPT-5.6 model under restrictions 0:22:37 - OpenAI Limits Access to New Models, Citing Government Security Concerns 0:26:35 - China Has Matched Anthropic in Cybersecurity, Resetting AI Race 0:32:24 - Google caps Meta’s Gemini use as AI demand strains capacity 0:34:41 - Meta looks to AI to review harmful content in cost-cutting drive 0:42:05 - Introducing Claude Sonnet 5 0:45:11 - Qualcomm stock pops 15% after chipmaker almost doubles projection for 2029 non-handset revenue 0:46:01 - Introducing computer use in Gemini 3.5 Flash 0:50:00 - Big Companies Aim to Ease A.I. Transition for American Workers 0:51:45 -OpenAI and Broadcom unveil LLM-optimized inference chip Hosts: Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis Download and subscribe to AI Inside in audio and video: https://aiinside.show/ Support the podcast on Patreon for special perks: https://www.patreon.com/aiinsideshow. You'll get ad-free episodes, members-only Discord, T-shirts and stickers you love, and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Transcribe →Liz Reid on What Publishers Get Wrong About AI
Jun 2600:50:12Tap to summarizeThis week Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis sit down with Liz Reid, VP and Head of Google Search, for a wide-ranging conversation about AI's transformation of the search product billions of people use every day. Liz makes the case that personalization could actually help small publishers find their exact audience rather than making them invisible, explains what the "ignore" bug revealed about how AI Overviews work under the hood, and talks about why users are adapting to natural language search faster than Google expected.Also in this episode: how preferred sources and subscriptions fit into AI search, Jeff challenges Liz on filter bubbles, and Liz's take on whether "search" is even the right word anymore. New episodes every Wednesday at aiinside.show. Note: Time codes subject to change depending on dynamic ad insertion by the distributor. CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Start 0:09:41 - Personalization is something no one else is asking about 0:21:56 - Publisher concerns 0:26:31 - How do publishers verify that personalization is finding them the right audience? 0:28:33 - Filter bubbles 0:32:04 - Searching with Agents: is there a new verb for search? 0:35:57 - Liz's jobs, metrics, success, failure 0:40:13 - Where were you when you found out that searching the word ‘ignore’ broke AI Overviews, and what was your first reaction? Hosts: Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis Guest: Liz Reid Download and subscribe to AI Inside in audio and video: https://aiinside.show/ Support the podcast on Patreon for special perks: https://www.patreon.com/aiinsideshow. You'll get ad-free episodes, members-only Discord, T-shirts and stickers you love, and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Transcribe →Meta's Data Center on Your Face
Jun 2501:16:51Tap to summarizeThis week Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis cover Meta's new $299 smart glasses and whether it's Glasshole 2.0 all over again, the Anthropic national security saga including the NSA red-team test that breached classified systems in hours, and Google losing Nobel Prize winner John Jumper to Anthropic and Transformer co-author Noam Shazeer to OpenAI in the same week.Also in this episode: Anthropic's ID verification update, Meta's employee tracking data leak, Google DeepMind investing $75 million in A24, Amazon dropping its OpenAI film, Midjourney building a medical scanner, an 8-bit pixel-art MLB broadcast site, Claude Tag for Slack, NotebookLM's upgrade, and Trump's quantum computing executive orders. New episodes every Wednesday at aiinside.show. Note: Time codes subject to change depending on dynamic ad insertion by the distributor. CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Start 0:03:01 - Trump tells "The Axios Show" that Anthropic was a national security threat 0:07:08 - Anthropic says Claude may want to see your ID 0:12:20 - Mythos reportedly breached ‘almost all’ NSA classified systems within a few hours during red-team test — report sheds more light on the U.S. government's sudden ban on the flagship models 0:13:11 - Why Would Amazon’s CEO Try to Kneecap Anthropic by Tattling to Trump? 0:13:25 - Meta Debuts Glasses Under Its Own Brand at Lower $299 Price 0:14:38 - Meta’s Very Own Smart Glasses Go on Sale Today for $299 0:26:52 - Nobel-Winning AI Researcher Leaves Google for Anthropic 0:28:21 - Google stock is sliding toward its worst day in a year after two top AI researchers quit 0:34:23 - Google Investing in ‘Backrooms’ Studio A24 0:41:36 - The Ex-Pixar Producer Who’s All In on A.I. 0:48:37 - Midjourney, the AI image generator, is developing a full-body ultrasonic scanner 0:52:44 - Ribbie turns real-time baseball stats into arcade-like, pixel-art broadcasts 0:56:46 - Google preps Pixel ‘Audio Memory’ that ambiently tracks your ‘important conversations,’ like AI notetaker pins 1:01:51 - Anthropic’s Claude Tag is learning your company, one Slack message at a time 1:03:17 - Trump Seeks to Boost Quantum Computing With New Executive Orders 1:04:32 -NotebookLM's Latest Update Makes It an Even Better Research Tool Hosts: Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis Download and subscribe to AI Inside in audio and video: https://aiinside.show/ Support the podcast on Patreon for special perks: https://www.patreon.com/aiinsideshow. You'll get ad-free episodes, members-only Discord, T-shirts and stickers you love, and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Transcribe →Joelle Pineau on Why Sovereign AI Just Got Real
Jun 1900:59:13Tap to summarizeDays after the US government forced Anthropic to pull Mythos 5 and Fable 5 offline, Cohere Chief AI Officer Joelle Pineau joins Jason Howell to react. The former Meta FAIR leader makes the case for sovereign AI, models that enterprises run on their own terms, on-premise and under their control, and explains why the shutdown was a wake-up call for everyone depending on a single provider.Also in this conversation: why Cohere open-sourced its North Mini Code model, what stops an agent from taking an action it shouldn't, how AI is changing entry-level work, and where AI actually belongs in medicine and drug discovery.New episodes at aiinside.show. Note: Time codes subject to change depending on dynamic ad insertion by the distributor. CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Start 0:02:28 - Honorary doctorate from the University of Ottawa, uncertainty for new graduates 0:10:33 - Grads: Say Yes to the role they’re not quite ready for 0:22:07 - Leaving Meta’s Fundamental AI Research team 0:27:06 - North Mini Code 0:34:29 - History with AI in personalized medicine 0:43:21 - What does North do today that stops an agent from behaving badly? 0:45:51 - Cohere and sovereignty with the current dispute between Anthropic and the U.S. government 0:50:39 - Are we any closer to agents that can build connections to understand each other? Hosts: Jason Howell Guest: Joelle Pineau Download and subscribe to AI Inside in audio and video: https://aiinside.show/ Support the podcast on Patreon for special perks: https://www.patreon.com/aiinsideshow. You'll get ad-free episodes, members-only Discord, T-shirts and stickers you love, and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Transcribe →Anthropic's AI Got Shut Down by the Government
Jun 1801:14:34Tap to summarizeThis week Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis break down how Anthropic's most powerful AI models, Fable 5 and Mythos 5, ended up offline after the Commerce Department gave the company 90 minutes to comply with an export control directive. The story involves Amazon triggering the crackdown, political miscommunication between Anthropic and the White House, and an open letter signed by over 100 security researchers calling for the models to be restored.Also in this episode: SpaceX IPOs at $2 trillion and acquires Cursor for $60 billion in stock, Snap and XREAL both announce consumer AR glasses shipping this fall, Jeff Bezos talks publicly about his $12 billion AI startup Prometheus, Allbirds pivots to AI infrastructure, and Google CEO Sundar Pichai skips mentioning AI entirely at Stanford's commencement. New episodes every Wednesday at aiinside.show. Note: Time codes subject to change depending on dynamic ad insertion by the distributor. CHAPTERS 0:00 - Start 0:01:37 - Anthropic, Trump Officials Seek Deal on Restoring Powerful Model Access 0:03:23 - How a 90-minute White House deadline sparked Silicon Valley’s biggest AI fight 0:03:23 - How Anthropic lost the White House’s trust — and then its flagship product 0:34:12 - SpaceX market cap tops $2 trillion after shares of Elon Musk’s rocket company gain 19% on debut 0:39:17 - SpaceX to acquire Cursor for $60B in stock, days after blockbuster IPO 0:43:20 - Introducing SPECS Augmented Reality Glasses 0:47:20 - XREAL’s Android XR glasses will cost under $1,500, which isn’t as expensive as it sounds 0:52:08 - Bezos opens up about AI startup Prometheus after $12 billion raise: ‘We’re not being secretive’ 0:55:36 - 5 Things To Know As Allbirds Drops Shoes For Smartbird, AI And New CEO 1:00:44 - Dozens walk out as Google boss Pichai addresses Stanford graduates 1:02:48 - Elon Musk Loses Again to OpenAI as Judge Dismisses xAI Trade Secret Lawsuit 1:03:41 - Microsoft turns to Amazon for help with GitHub's AI-driven capacity issues 1:05:10 - DoorDash’s new AI chatbot lets you order with prompts and photos 1:06:18 - DiffusionGemma: 4x faster text generation Hosts: Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis Download and subscribe to AI Inside in audio and video: https://aiinside.show/ Support the podcast on Patreon for special perks: https://www.patreon.com/aiinsideshow. You'll get ad-free episodes, members-only Discord, T-shirts and stickers you love, and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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