AI can edit the podcast, build the website, generate the image, organize the research, rewrite the email, and turn one person into something close to a full creative team.

But faster production does not automatically create better communication.

In this episode, Jason Todd Wade speaks with Michele Flamer, host of the Living Out Loud Podcast and author of the forthcoming book The Connect Effect, about what happens to authenticity, trust, creativity, and human connection as artificial intelligence becomes embedded in everyday work.

Jason discusses how AI has changed the way he creates, researches, communicates, and listens. Michele shares how she uses AI across technology sales, podcasting, customer insight, content production, and personal reflection while remaining careful not to let it replace her judgment or individual voice.

The conversation covers the practical benefits of AI, including faster podcast editing, accessible design, small-business websites, vibe coding, image creation, research, and idea development. It also addresses the limitations: hallucinations, automated customer service, repetitive AI language, false confidence, overreliance, and the temptation to use AI as a constant source of agreement.

The discussion is candid, loose, and occasionally argumentative. Both Jason and Michele return to the same central point from different directions: as words and content become easier to generate, listening, judgment, curiosity, presence, and trust become more valuable.

AI can reduce the labor required to create. It cannot decide whether the result is honest, useful, believable, or worth someone’s attention.

Jason and Michele discuss:

Whether AI can improve the way people listen and communicate
Why AI-generated content makes human presence more valuable
How podcast production has changed for independent creators
Using AI without losing your own voice
Why users should ask AI to challenge them, not simply agree
The difference between efficiency and authenticity
Vibe coding and the accessibility of website and app development
AI-generated graphics, marketing, and event materials
How small businesses and nonprofits can operate with fewer resources
The limitations of automated customer service
Research, citations, hallucinations, and verification
AI for journaling, reflection, and personal processing
Why relationships still require conflict, repair, and direct communication
How AI-powered platforms can produce genuine human introductions

Michele Flamer is a technology sales leader, podcast host, author, and relationship builder with experience across retail, e-commerce, customer feedback, and software solutions.

She is the host of the Living Out Loud Podcast, which features queer leaders, nonprofit organizations, public figures, and people working to create positive change in their communities.

Michele is also the author of the forthcoming book The Connect Effect, focused on rapport, trust, relationships, and the practical value of meaningful human connection.

Jason Todd Wade is the founder of BackTier and an AI Visibility strategist focused on how companies, experts, and organizations are discovered, understood, cited, and recommended by artificial intelligence systems.

His work covers AI Visibility, GEO, AEO, entity authority, structured content, digital authority, media, research, and machine-mediated discovery.

Jason hosts the AI Visibility Podcast, featuring conversations about artificial intelligence, search, technology, business, creativity, authority, and the changing relationship between people and machines.

LinkedIn: Michele Flamer
Instagram: @michele_flamer
TikTok: Living Out Loud Podcast
Podcast: Living Out Loud Podcast
Book: The Connect Effect, forthcoming

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