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Aubrey Carter
This is the Allers English podcast, episode 2438. Get Out A dodge with this American culture vocabulary.
Lindsey McMahon
Welcome to the All Ears English podcast, downloaded more than 200 million times. Are you feeling stuck with your English? We'll show you how to become fearless and fluent by focusing on connection, not perfection, with your American host, Aubrey Carter, the IELTS whiz, and Lindsey McMahon, the English adventurer, coming to you from Arizona and Colorado, usa. And to get your transcripts delivered by email every week, go to allearsenglish.com subscribe have you ever heard someone say the phrase get out of dodge? Find out what this famous expression alludes to and exactly when you can use it. Plus, get another way to say let's leave in English.
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Lindsey McMahon
Hello, Aubrey. How's it going today?
Aubrey Carter
I'm great, Lindsay. How are you?
Lindsey McMahon
Good. Excited to be here on Allers English. What are we getting into today?
Aubrey Carter
Well, I have a question for you. This is one of my favorite films, especially when I was younger, like in college. Have you ever seen the film Tombstone?
Lindsey McMahon
I actually don't think I've seen the whole film all the way through. It's a western.
Aubrey Carter
Love it. It is a Western. I watched it so many times with my family or my siblings. I can quote so many lines from it. And it was very quotable. Val Kilmer was Doc Holliday and he has so many great lines. I'm your huckleberry is one of them. I'm your huckleberry. Which it's. It's like really? He's saying like, I'm the person you need.
Lindsey McMahon
Yeah.
Aubrey Carter
And you'll hear sometimes some of these have sort of been adopted into English, too, the phrases from this film. So I highly recommend it. Everybod watched Tombstone.
Lindsey McMahon
Yeah, I think I should probably watch it to get some inside phrases that maybe are probably being used all the time. And I didn't know they were coming from that.
Aubrey Carter
I'm curious if you'll watch it. Be like, wait, I've heard people saying That I didn't know it was from this film.
Lindsey McMahon
Right, right, exactly.
Aubrey Carter
But it's about the shootout at the OK Corral. This is very famous. It happened in Tombstone, Arizona, which is actually only about two and a half miles. Two and a half. Two and a half hour drive south of Phoenix where I live. So it's not that far from here. But I've actually never been to Tombstone. I need to go. I need to take my kids because it's like a. An old west town or kind of recreated town, sort of like Jackson Hole. I've heard it's fun. We'll have to go sometime.
Lindsey McMahon
Very cool. And so what, how does this tie into the phrase we want to talk about today, Aubrey?
Aubrey Carter
Yeah, so this phrase get out of Dodge came up in a recent episode. Stay to the end and we'll share which one it was in case you missed it because you can definitely listen to these out of order. But we promised to follow up with the very interesting history of where. Of where this phrase comes from and then also how we use it because we do use a lot. It's very common. You'll hear it and then a few phrases that mean the same thing.
Lindsey McMahon
Yeah. This is so important to know because this is one of the phrases that most native speakers of English just in, probably just in the U.S. i'm guessing, do use it and they on a gut level know what it means. But if you sit down and ask them where it comes from and more. More detailed what it actually means, I have a feeling they wouldn't really know.
Aubrey Carter
Right, Exactly. Right. And even me, I've watched Tombstone so many times and I still didn't know a lot of this history. So it was fun to dive in, learn some of the history about Dodge City. Excited to share it with you guys today. Yeah.
Lindsey McMahon
So tell us what it means, Aubrey. I mean, don't leave us in the dark any longer.
Aubrey Carter
Right. Okay, so we need to give credit to Tyler Guthrie in June 2023, wrote an article called where the phrase get out of Dodge Comes From. And he did his research. It was fascinating all of the information about Dodge City. So we're going to share some things from that article. This phrase means to leave quickly, get out of Dodge. Right. To leave a place or a situation, usually that's like uncomfortable or unsafe. Okay, let' give a few examples first. So like for example, you might say this party's dead. If you know everyone's leaving, it's not very fun. Let's get out of Dodge means like this isn't fun anymore. Let's go.
Lindsey McMahon
Got it. Or I need a fresh start in another city. It's time to. It's time I got out of. Sorry. It's time I got out of Dodge. Got out of Dodge.
Aubrey Carter
Right. And we often we, you know, we don't say I got out of Dodge or we need to get out of Dodge. We run those together and say, outa. I gotta get out of Dodge.
Lindsey McMahon
I wonder if the residents of Dodge City, Kansas, have some kind of, I don't know, have fun with this in some way or something.
Aubrey Carter
Right. If you're.
Lindsey McMahon
You have an actual phrase named after your town, probably.
Aubrey Carter
Right? I wonder. But yeah. So that it did originate in Dodge City, Kansas, in the 1870s when. So Dodge City was first a cow town in the old West. What does that mean, a cow town, Lindsay?
Lindsey McMahon
A cow town? I've actually heard people call Denver, Colorado a cow town, but now it's a cowtown city. But I guess it means it was a base for cattle ranchers, actually. I don't know.
Aubrey Carter
It was a settlement before it was a big city. It would be a settlement, so people lived there where cowboys would bring their cattle, and then there would either be a railroad or shipyards where they would send the cows to butchering markets in the East. Right. Okay. So in Dodge City, at first it was, you know, a smaller settlement. And then when the railroad reached Dodge, Dodge City, it became a boom town. So what does that.
Lindsey McMahon
Yeah, so our listeners who are in our connected communicator course know that a boomtown is a town which has, has or had an economy that was booming around especially one specific product.
Aubrey Carter
Exactly. Yes. Right. So it's a town that quickly grows prosperous. So for Dodge City, it was because of the cattle market. The railroad became a major hub for the cattle trade. And so the, the peak years for this was like 1883-1884. So because of that boom, Dodge City became infamous, which means famous, but often for negative things became infamous for being extremely dangerous because there were a lot of. Not only cowboys, but a lot of thieves. Right. A lot of those negative characters, a lot of criminals. Right. And for some time, Dodge City was lawless. People could sort of get away with anything because there weren't lawmen keeping order there.
Lindsey McMahon
Fascinating. Okay, that piece I didn't really know. So it was a crime town, crime ridden town. And so that's where that energy comes from. We need to get out of here.
Aubrey Carter
Right, right, exactly right. That's where this phrase come from. We gotta get out of Dodge because it was unsafe. Right. All of these dangerous people were there, so it wasn't really a safe place for families for people to live. But then that changed when Wyatt Earp and William Barclay, whose nickname was Batman Masterson, came, and they were lawmen who were, like, fearless. So they tried to sort of bring some law to Dodge City, and they were called peace officers. What does that mean, Lindsay, for someone to be called a peace officer?
Lindsey McMahon
Yeah. So this idea that they were representatives of the law, they were trying to restore peace in that specific town.
Aubrey Carter
Exactly right. So like a cop, now a police officer? We wouldn't call them a peace officer because this was sort of a specific title for someone trying to bring peace to a town that was quite lawless and dangerous. Right. Wow.
Lindsey McMahon
So this.
Aubrey Carter
That's where this phrase, get out of Dodge came from. But also, Wyatt Earp became very famous because he was able to bring peace to Dodge City. It became a place that was safe for people to live. And then he was there, you know, as a lawman until the 1880s, when the cowboy scene was kind of dying. You know, the frontier was being settled. It was becoming more industrial. And so then Wyatt Earp move to Tombstone, where the shootout at the OK Corral happened. He was just trying to make his living there. I don't know how much the to the facts in Tomb in the film Tombstone are accurate, but that's about the events leading up to the shootout at the okay Corral.
Lindsey McMahon
I'm gonna have to. Okay, maybe this is the movie I'll watch this weekend. Yeah, so. But it sounds like the nickname stuck, though. They did make it a safer place, but it still kind of remained this idea of get out of Dodge is get out of a place that is. Something's wrong with the place. Is that right?
Aubrey Carter
Exactly right. So we use it pretty flexibly. It might be like, I actually feel unsafe here. Let's get out of Dodge. Like, you're in a dark alley. Suddenly you're like, oh, we got to get out of Dodge. Like, I feel unsafe. But it also might be that party example where it's like, this just isn't that fun. Let's go. You might be like, we got to get out of Dodge.
Lindsey McMahon
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Aubrey Carter
Okay? Absolutely right. The Old west is fascinating in I know a lot of people come to the States and you want to see these ghost towns, these old towns. Jackson Hole, Wyoming. I worked there for a summer. So fun. But it's also really interesting, the vocabulary, the phrases that come out of this history for sure.
Lindsey McMahon
Interesting. What did you do in Jackson? Did you have a job at a shop or what was your job there?
Aubrey Carter
So I moved there because a friend was living there and the hotels would give you free room and board if you were like a housekeeper. So then we would do that in the morning. I cleaned rooms at the 49er in and then I had a job in the evening at the Million Dollar Cowboy Bar gift shop. I was only 18, 17, so I couldn't work in the actual bar. There was like a gift shop before you go into the bar and I was like a cashier in the gift shop. So fun.
Lindsey McMahon
Jacksonville is a great little town.
Aubrey Carter
I love it. It's very cool. Yeah, if you guys come to the States, you gotta for sure go see Jackson Hole and West Yellowstone National Park. It's such a beautiful area and really fun.
Lindsey McMahon
All right, so what else? Okay, so this is what we're expressing here with this expression is I need to get out of this place. But are there other ways we might say this?
Aubrey Carter
Yes, exactly right. We want to share a few other phrases. The first one is very similar, but we just remove dodge we'll just say, like, let's get out of here. Right. Oh, I feel uncomfortable. Let's get out of here. And so it's very similar. This is definitely more common. Right. Get out of Dodge is a little more specific to certain scenarios or, you know. Yeah, you'll. You'll hear it, but not that often. Whereas this you'll hear all the time. Let's get out of here.
Lindsey McMahon
Yeah. This is more broad. It applies to more scenarios. Yes. This club is empty. We got to get out of here.
Aubrey Carter
Right, exactly. And then another one's interesting is vaminos, which is a transliteration of span Spanish, vamonos, which means let's go or let's leave. So we use this a lot in English. Do you use this or hear this, Lindsay? I hear it a lot.
Lindsey McMahon
Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. Vaminos. Right, Right.
Aubrey Carter
Yes. Yeah, we might say. Oh, you said you wanted to leave at 8. Right. Well, vaminos, like, let's go.
Lindsey McMahon
Yeah. I mean, there are absolutely, you know, Spanish, French, Italian words. We've done multiple episodes on this phenomenon that we. We adopt certain words and change them around. Maybe you don't hear them in that way in their. In the original language, but we use them for sure.
Aubrey Carter
Yes, exactly Right. There are a lot of these transliterations in English. Some of them we use exactly the same as it is in French, like cul de sac or Spanish. You know, burrito, tortilla. There are so many words, we use them the same, and there are some that we either change the pronunciation of or the spelling of. And this is a transliteration. So actually, guys, be sure to hit follow, because we're going to do a follow up here on Allers English very soon of other common transliterations.
Lindsey McMahon
Yeah. So fun. All right, Aubrey, what else do we need to know?
Aubrey Carter
Let's do a role play here. You and I are at a state fair for this role play.
Lindsey McMahon
All right, here we go.
Aubrey Carter
I'll start us. I'm not feeling well. I should not have ridden the Gravitron.
Lindsey McMahon
Oh, time to get out of Dodge.
Aubrey Carter
Yeah, I think so. Sorry. I know you wanted to stay longer.
Lindsey McMahon
No worries, vaminos.
Aubrey Carter
Nice. No worries, vominos.
Lindsey McMahon
Let's go. You have to say that with energy. Right.
Aubrey Carter
And Indonesia would be kind of weird to be like vominos.
Lindsey McMahon
No, you would never.
Aubrey Carter
Yeah, vaminos.
Lindsey McMahon
All right. So good. So you said. Well, I said, you know, I see that you're not feeling well. Right. And this is not even about the state fair. This is about your condition.
Aubrey Carter
Right. I don't I look sick, and this has happened to me. There's this ride that I mentioned here. The Gravitron is one that spins very fast in a circle, and so it takes away gravity, and you end up, like, pinned against the wall, and you're trying to move like you're on the moon, I guess. Right?
Lindsey McMahon
Yeah.
Aubrey Carter
It makes me so ill. Is it.
Lindsey McMahon
Is it after the ride that you feel ill or during the road? Okay, it's after.
Aubrey Carter
When I get out, it stops spinning, and I get off. I'm like, what was I thinking? Until you're messed up for the rest.
Lindsey McMahon
Of the day or something. Yeah, that's. I would have thought during the ride. And then you get off, you're okay, but no, no, yeah, I'm fine.
Aubrey Carter
During the ride. Once my. Once I stop spinning, I'm like, oh, oh, boy.
Lindsey McMahon
And then what did I say?
Aubrey Carter
Right? I'm like, okay, I think. I think we should go. You're like, oh, time to get out of Dodge. Right. So you're saying, you see that I'm sick. You're like, let's go. We got to get out of here.
Lindsey McMahon
Yes, exactly. And then he said, yeah, I think so. Sorry, I know you wanted to stay longer. And then I. I said this in a very upbeat way. I said, no worries, vaminos. So it's kind of silly. You're being kind of funny. You're having fun with the language. Right, when you say that expression.
Aubrey Carter
And this is interesting to think about the connection skill here, because if you were wanting to stay somewhere longer and your friend needs to leave for whatever reason, they're. They're sick, they're injured, something happens, you can make them feel badly about that. If you're like, it's fine. I guess we can totally. Or you can do it in very upbeat, friendly way, like you did here. No worries, vaminos.
Lindsey McMahon
And I think that's probably the takeaway right there. Aubrey, I'm glad you pointed out the connection skill here. What is the art of saying we need to go in a way that doesn't, I don't know, bring people down?
Aubrey Carter
Yes, exactly. Right. Doesn't make anyone feel bad for being the reason we have to leave, because we've all been there. We. We've all been the friend who has come with someone else. So they're all right, and we're ready to go. And they can either make us feel badly when we're like, can we go? Or they can be like, yeah, no problem at all. And what a way to conn. Connect to keep that connection to let them feel like, no problem, I'm ready to go too.
Lindsey McMahon
Yeah, that's it. And sometimes it's the choice of words, sometimes it's the intonation or both. Right.
Aubrey Carter
So exactly. So good.
Lindsey McMahon
Aubry, what's another episode our listeners could check out?
Aubrey Carter
Yes, this is the episode where get out a dodge came up. It was 2418 right here on Allers English. Don't dance around this English vocabulary. And we use this phrase get out of dodge. And we're when we're talking about dodging a topic. Right. Avoiding a topic. So yeah, be sure to check that one out as well.
Lindsey McMahon
Well, I love it. Great episode today, guys. Don't, don't forget to hit follow right here on your podcast player. And Aubrey, I'll see you back here very soon.
Aubrey Carter
All right, see you next time.
Lindsey McMahon
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All Ears English Podcast
Episode 2438: "Get Outta Dodge With This American Culture Vocabulary"
Release Date: July 7, 2025
In Episode 2438 of the All Ears English Podcast, hosts Lindsey McMahon and Aubrey Carter delve into the intriguing American expression "Get out of Dodge." This episode explores the origins, meanings, and contemporary usage of the phrase, offering listeners valuable insights into American culture and colloquial language.
Aubrey Carter kicks off the discussion by sharing his enthusiasm for the classic Western film Tombstone, highlighting its influence on American vernacular. He mentions iconic lines from Val Kilmer's portrayal of Doc Holliday, such as "I'm your huckleberry," illustrating how cinematic expressions permeate everyday language.
At 04:07, Aubrey references an article by Tyler Guthrie from June 2023, which traces the phrase "Get out of Dodge" to its historic roots in Dodge City, Kansas. Originally a bustling cow town in the 1870s, Dodge City became synonymous with lawlessness and danger due to its prominence in the cattle trade and the absence of effective law enforcement. This environment fostered the creation of the phrase, embodying the need to leave an unsafe or uncomfortable situation swiftly.
The phrase "Get out of Dodge" essentially means to leave a place or situation, often implying urgency or discomfort. Aubrey provides practical examples:
Lindsey McMahon adds depth by contrasting it with more common alternatives like "Let's get out of here," emphasizing that while "Get out of Dodge" carries specific connotations, the latter is more broadly applicable across various scenarios.
The hosts discuss alternatives to "Get out of Dodge," highlighting how English speakers often substitute parts of phrases to fit different contexts. For instance, saying "Let's get out of here" serves the same purpose with broader applicability.
Aubrey introduces the Spanish-origin phrase "Vamonos" (meaning "let's go" or "let's leave"), which has been seamlessly integrated into English vernacular. Lindsey confirms its widespread use, noting, "Vamonos" often appears in casual conversations among English speakers, demonstrating the fluidity and adaptability of English in incorporating foreign terms.
To solidify understanding, Lindsey and Aubrey engage in a role-play scenario set at a state fair.
This exchange exemplifies how the phrase can be used naturally to suggest leaving a situation without causing offense, showcasing both the phrase and the transliteration "vamonos" in action. Aubrey reflects on the importance of connection skills—expressing the need to leave without making others feel bad, thereby maintaining positive relationships.
Aubrey highlights Wyatt Earp and William "Bat" Masterson, notable figures who restored law and order to Dodge City, transforming its reputation from a dangerous boomtown to a safer community. This historical pivot underscores the origin of "Get out of Dodge" as a response to the town's perilous past, even after efforts to stabilize it.
The episode further explores how English adopts and adapts phrases from other languages and cultures, enriching its expressive capacity. Aubrey and Lindsey discuss how terms like "vamonos" integrate into English-speaking contexts, reflecting the dynamic nature of language and cultural exchange.
Lindsey McMahon at 03:50: "This is so important to know because this is one of the phrases that most native speakers of English just in, probably just in the U.S., use it and on a gut level know what it means."
Aubrey Carter at 08:00: "Wyatt Earp became very famous because he was able to bring peace to Dodge City. It became a place that was safe for people to live."
Lindsey McMahon at 15:59: "Sometimes it's the choice of words, sometimes it's the intonation or both."
A significant takeaway from the episode is the emphasis on using language to foster connections rather than seeking perfection. By understanding the origins and appropriate contexts for phrases like "Get out of Dodge," learners can enhance their conversational skills and cultural competence, making interactions more natural and meaningful.
Episode 2438 of the All Ears English Podcast offers a comprehensive exploration of the phrase "Get out of Dodge," blending historical context with practical language application. Hosts Lindsey McMahon and Aubrey Carter provide listeners with not only the meaning and origins of the expression but also alternative phrases and transliterations that enrich their English vocabulary. Through engaging discussions and interactive role-plays, the episode underscores the importance of connection in language learning, encouraging learners to embrace cultural nuances and linguistic flexibility.
Additional Resources:
Previous Episode Reference: Aubrey mentions Episode 2418, titled "Don't Dance Around This English Vocabulary," where "Get out of Dodge" was initially discussed.
Follow-Up Content: The hosts hint at future episodes exploring other common transliterations in English, encouraging listeners to stay tuned for more linguistic insights.
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