AEE 2478: Laundry in English Part 1: Don't Shrink Your Clothes

Summary

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All Ears English Podcast

Episode 2478: Laundry in English Part 1 – Don't Shrink Your Clothes
Hosts: Lindsay McMahon & Michelle Kaplan
Release Date: September 15, 2025

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Overview of the Episode

In this lively, practical episode, Lindsay and Michelle kick off a three-part series about doing laundry in English. Aimed at intermediate-to-advanced English learners (ESL), this episode lays the groundwork with vocabulary and real-life anecdotes about doing laundry in the US. The discussion is full of cultural insights and conversational language meant to help learners connect in everyday situations, especially around the often-overlooked but universal topic of laundry.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Why Laundry as a Topic? (03:21)

• Everyday routines like laundry offer natural opportunities for connection.
• “Sometimes the best topics are your typical daily life that people talk about.” — Michelle (03:21)

2. Laundry Routines and Cultural Notes (02:06 – 03:21)

• Michelle discusses doing laundry almost daily in the summer because of her kids’ camp, while Lindsay reminisces about having a strict weekly laundry day as a young adult in New York.
• “You haul your laundry down your fourth-floor walk-up, walk across the street to the laundromat and sit… It’s the New York lifestyle.” — Lindsay (03:04)
• Cultural habits: Owning washer/dryers is rare in older apartment buildings in big cities; shared building laundry or laundromats are common.

3. Laundry Vocabulary Basics (05:15 – 08:13)

• Washer/Dryer: The essential machines. Often lacking “in-unit" in older apartments, leading to shared or laundromat use.
• Laundry Detergent: Scented vs. unscented, allergies, “running low on laundry detergent” (07:47).
  • “I had a period a few years ago where I broke out in hives, and I thought it was my detergent…” — Lindsay (08:16)
• Fabric Softener: Not everyone uses it; used to soften clothes and add fragrance.

4. Care Instructions and Laundry Decisions (09:14 – 10:36)

• Tags on clothing: “Hand wash only”, “dry clean only”, “lay flat to dry”, “wash with like colors”.
• Deciding whether to buy or avoid high-maintenance clothes based on care labels.
  • “No, that’s so true. And I’ve bought things and I’ve thought to myself, this is always going to be wrinkly…” — Lindsay (09:58)
• Ironing: Rarely done unless necessary, like for conferences.

5. Common Phrases and Instructions on Labels (13:53 – 17:00)

• Examples: “Lay flat to dry,” “tumble dry low,” “separate lights and darks,” “delicates,” “hand wash only.”
• “It’s so hard to find an apartment in New York City with a washer dryer in the unit.” — Michelle (07:36)
• Shared stories of shrinking clothes and laundry mishaps.

6. Cultural Practice: Wash and Fold (07:17)

• Convenience service in urban areas: leaving laundry to be washed, folded, and picked up.
  • “So Cambridge, we just decided to do wash and fold because we were done with hauling laundry across the street…” — Lindsay (07:18)

7. Connection and Personality in Laundry Habits (15:45 – 16:40)

• Not separating lights/darks: Both hosts admit to shortcutting steps due to time and priorities.
  • “Everything goes on the same thing.” — Michelle (15:24)
• Laundry methods reveal lifestyle, priorities, and values.

8. Role Play: Practical Usage (17:00 – 20:35)

• The hosts act as roommates coordinating their laundry, using the new vocabulary and authentic dialogue.
  • Example snippet:
    • “Remind me not to throw in my green dress again. It's hand wash only.” — Lindsay (17:17)
    • “I wish we had our own washer dryer.” — Michelle (17:23)

9. Connecting Over Laundry: Pop Culture & Everyday Life (18:45 – 21:25)

• Reference to the TV show Friends and laundromat as a social/connection space.
• Discussion about different laundry setups around the world, emphasizing universality and diversity.

10. Key Takeaway: Embrace Mundane Topics (21:09 – 22:01)

• Everyday routines like laundry are powerful connection points.
  • “Even laundry can be inspiring… it’s where the connection lies.” — Lindsay (21:09)
  • “Don’t throw those [mundane topics] by the wayside… they can bring about a lot of connection.” — Michelle (21:25)

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Routine & Culture:
  • “You haul your laundry down your fourth-floor walk-up… It’s the New York lifestyle.” — Lindsay (03:04)
  • “I feel like we’re also constantly doing laundry. There’s always laundry happening.” — Lindsay (02:48)
• Laundry Vocabulary Intro:
  • “So the first one is the most basic, right? Washer dryer.” — Michelle (05:15)
• On Allergies and Detergent:
  • “I broke out in hives, and I thought it was my detergent, but I never figured out what it was.” — Lindsay (08:16)
• On Laundry Shortcuts:
  • “Everything goes on the same thing.” — Michelle (15:24)
• Personality & Priorities:
  • “Maybe we don’t value clothing quite as much as other people… This is a topic where you can say so much more about yourself than just about the laundry.” — Lindsay (16:10)
• Connection Through the Mundane:
  • “Even laundry can be inspiring… it’s where the connection lies.” — Lindsay (21:09)
  • “Don’t ignore these [mundane topics] or push them away. They’re very important.” — Michelle (21:25)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:06] – Laundry routines and city vs. suburban context
• [05:15] – Key laundry vocabulary (washer/dryer, detergent)
• [08:49] – Fabric softener and detergent sensitivities
• [09:14] – Clothing care instructions and following labels
• [13:53] – Common label language in American English
• [15:45] – Cultural habits, separating clothes, what laundry says about us
• [17:00] – Role-play: roommates do laundry together
• [18:45] – Connecting in laundromats, Friends reference
• [21:09] – Key takeaway: make connections over daily routines

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Episode Structure

1. Introduction & Purpose

Quick banter on laundry routines segues into the topic’s relevance for ESL learners (02:06–03:21).

2. Laundry Vocabulary & Context

Explains core nouns and phrases, weaves in cultural comparisons and storytelling (05:15–09:14).

3. Care Instructions & Daily Challenges

Discusses label-reading, clothing maintenance, and the realities of ignoring instructions (09:14–10:36).

4. Role Play

A natural, illustrative banter between roommates at the laundromat, using target vocabulary (17:00–20:35).

5. Recap & Takeaways

Encouragement to use everyday topics for building connections, highlighting the power of mundane routines (21:09–22:01).

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Language & Tone

• Friendly, personal, and humorous
• Focused on real-life communication, not technical perfection
• Full of conversational idioms and American English expressions
• Prioritizes connection, not perfection—emphasizing relatability over flawlessness

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Next Steps for Learners

• Follow the Business English Podcast for Part 2 of the laundry series.
• Listen to Episode 2476 (“Out of Juice: How to Connect over Dead Batteries”) for more connection-based language tips.

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Summary Takeaway

Even the simplest daily routines like laundry are rich opportunities to grow your English skills and connect with others. By mastering everyday vocabulary and sharing your experiences, you can turn even the mundane into a chance for meaningful conversation.

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Hosts’ Parting Words:
“It’s where the connection lies. If we just pay attention to who are we with, who’s around us, and what are the words we need in that moment...” — Lindsay (21:09)

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Transcript

[Michelle Kaplan]

This is an All Ears English podcast. Episode 2478 laundry in English part one. Don't shrink your clothes.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Welcome to the All Ears English podcast, downloaded more than 200 million times. Are you feeling stuck with your English? We'll show you how to become fearless and fluent by focusing on connection, not perfection with your American hosts, Lindsay McMahon, the English adventurer, and Michelle Kaplan, the New York radio girl, coming to you from Colorado and New York City, usa. And to get your transcripts delivered by email every week, go to allearsenglish.com subscribe do you go to the laundromat? Do you have a washer dryer in your home? In this part one of our three part series, build the vocabulary foundation to eventually connect around doing the laundry in English.

[Michelle Kaplan]

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[Lindsay McMahon]

Hey there, Michelle. How's it going today?

[Michelle Kaplan]

Hey Lindsay, how are you?

[Lindsay McMahon]

I'm feeling great. I'm feeling great. Michelle, how often do you do your laundry? Intimate question, right?

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah, honestly, pretty much every day right now because it's the summer. So my kids have been going to camp. They come home with bathing suits and wet towels and things with sand in them and they need those things for the next day. Cuz, you know, I don't, I don't have endless amounts of towels and bathing suits for that. So it's pretty much a daily occurrence for my family in the summer. Otherwise it's, I don't know, maybe like every few. Every three days maybe. We'll see how it builds up. What about you?

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah, I think I feel like we're also constantly doing laundry. There's always laundry happening. But when I was in my 20s and I used to go to the laundromat in New York, it was once a week. No more, no less.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yes. Right. There's like a, like a laundry, like your laundry day, right?

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yes. Your laundry day. For me it was Sundays, maybe Saturdays usually Sundays, you haul your, you know, the New York lifestyle. You haul your laundry down your fourth floor, walk up, walk across the street to the laundromat and sit in the laundromat, or go to the coffee shop and wander between the two. Right. It's the New York lifestyle.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah. Yes, exactly. So, guys, we are going to start a series on laundry, which sounds so funny to do something like that, but this is such a. Like, Lindsay, you were saying, such an everyday topic. Such a. Yes, you know, some. Sometimes the best topics are your typical daily life that people talk about.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Well, it's so true, because everyday topics are where we connect with people.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right.

[Lindsay McMahon]

It's those moments where we might run into someone. Like in the laundromat in New York or in our laundry in our apartment building, there might be a laundry room.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right.

[Lindsay McMahon]

We have a chance to actually strike up a connection. So we think this is actually a real connection episode.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Definitely. Yeah. And actually, now that you even said that, I feel like for the episodes I have planned, there is even more to say. So maybe. Yeah, there's really a lot to say about this topic, so people can really connect over this. So we're gonna do the first episode over here on Ollie's English today. The second episode is actually going to be the business English podcast, which is one of our other shows. If you haven't heard it yet, go to the Business English podcast and hit follow, because then you will get alerted when this episode is. And that's just a really, really great show as well. It's business, but from the perspective of knowing that you're not a robot when you're at work. So this is not. This is for everybody. And I think anybody can get something out of this, even if they're not necessarily at this moment in the business world.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yes, I 100% agree with you. So, guys, go over, open your search bar. Search, type in business English, and hit follow on that show so you don't miss episode two in the series. And then, like Michelle said for the third, we'll be back over here. So make sure you are following both podcasts.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Excellent.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Okay, I'm curious what we're going to learn today.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Okay, so today we're going to start with the basics. We're going to teach some basic laundry vocabulary to start us off. So we have a lot. We have a lot of content today. So we're going to talk about these and totally unplanned discussions about how we can use these words. Okay. So we can throw in. Lindsay, throw in whatever questions you Want to ask? Okay, I'll throw them in. Yes, exactly. So the first one is the most basic, right. Washer dryer.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yes. Yeah. The two machines. Right. And I know they're saying prices of washer dryers might go up right now, new tariff situations happening, so maybe everyone is scrambling to get a washer dryer. And do you have. Obviously, I mean, you're a, A homeowner, so you now probably have a washer dryer in your house. But this is something I didn't take for granted. And I only had one when I bought a. A town home. Right. So living in apartment buildings, usually you don't have one in your unit unless it's a very modern place.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right. Did you have one in Boston? I can't. I. I did, actually.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah. Yeah, I did. You had one there. Boston. I was shocked. So that's where I got my. I. I was thinking, oh, my gosh, we actually have a washer dryer in our home. But I had laundry, so I had to share it, obviously. But yeah, it was amazing. All I had to do was walk down to the basement instead of walking down four floors of a, of a walk up and then across the street with your laundry, which is kind of strange. Right. But it's, it's the New York life.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, in New York, in my second apartment, I also had the five roommates, and there was one in the building, so it was shared. But it is one of those things you have to kind of plan for. Right. Especially if it's not. Not if it's not in your house or in your apartment, actually, the unit you do have to plan for going and making sure you have. You get things out of time because you have to be courteous to other people who are waiting for machines. So you do have to plan your life a little bit around the laundry. You do.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah.

[Lindsay McMahon]

So Cambridge, we just decided to do wash and fold because we were done with hauling laundry across the street around the city and we just started doing wash and fold. It is more expensive, but it's faster. You save time. So instead of doing laundry on a Sunday, you're going for a hike, you know?

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah. And sometimes that's a deal worth making. Right?

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right. Sometimes that's what's most valuable to you. So you make that decision. So, yeah, you could say something like, it's so hard to find an apartment in New York City with a washer dryer in the unit. Yes.

[Lindsay McMahon]

And then of course, the stuff that you put into your clothes when it's already in the washer is your laundry detergent. So I'm running low on laundry detergent. Right.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yes. Lindsay, do you. You use scented or unscented?

[Lindsay McMahon]

I guess I think we use unscented. Unscented, yeah, same.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Do you. I. I used to use scented and I don't know. I just eventually. I don't know. I was trying to always stay away from fragrances and stuff like that. I don't know.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah, you can have allergies. Some people have allergies.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right.

[Lindsay McMahon]

And yeah, I had a period a few years ago where I had. I broke out in hives, and I thought it was my detergent, but I never figured out what it was. It just went away. It was so weird.

[Michelle Kaplan]

I had the same thing happen to me, but. But it was like, for, like, it was like, for like a month and a half that it kept on coming and going.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yes.

[Michelle Kaplan]

And I went to the thing.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Oh, my gosh. We have to talk.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Okay, we'll just talk about this later. This is not really the. The sexiest conversation forum. Not the forum. So, yeah, I'm running low on laundry detergent. And then there's fabric softener. Lindsay, what's fabric softener?

[Lindsay McMahon]

I don't really know. I don't use this. I don't.

[Michelle Kaplan]

I don't feel like an extra.

[Lindsay McMahon]

For me, I guess it's an additional thing you put in there to make your clothes soft.

[Michelle Kaplan]

It is also. And then it also has a smell. I don't know. I. I used to use it, but now I don't use it anymore either. Seems like very basic on my laundry.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah. Keep it basic. Keep it simple. Right. So here's a sample sentence. If you do use fabric softener. I always use fabric softener on my clothes. Yes.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yes. Okay, now let's talk about one thing that's really important with the laundry, is the directions. Right. And do you follow the directions? Because on your clothes, it will tell you what to do on the tag. Now, Lindsay, do you follow the directions?

[Lindsay McMahon]

Oh, I tried to, but honestly, I just want to wash and dry everything because it's faster. But I know that for many things, you should lay flat to dry, you should hand wash, but who has the time?

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah, right. No, I know. Do you ever. Are you ever purchasing something at the store and then you see how it needs to be washed and you think, just forget it. Or maybe you avoid buying something because you think, sure, it's always going to be wrinkly. It's going to be a half hassle. Sure. Yeah.

[Lindsay McMahon]

No, that's so True. And I've bought things and I've thought to myself, this is always wrinkle, like it's always got wrinkles. How am I going to deal with this? Yeah. So high maintenance clothing I try to stay away from.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Do you iron? Do you iron?

[Lindsay McMahon]

I try to iron. I think I never learned how to iron properly. I, I don't iron. No. Like I wouldn't iron for today, for our recording for today. But if I go to a conference, so if I put my bags, that's the only time I iron. Honestly. I put like my, my button down shirts in a bag and then I. Right, I'll take them out and I will iron when I get to the hotel room. That is the only time. So twice a year I iron. Michelle.

[Michelle Kaplan]

That's, that's good. Yeah, that's two more times than me. Okay, so. But what are. So we've thrown out some of these already, so. Hand wash only. Yeah. You can't stick that in the dryer. I mean in the washer. I probably still would, but. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lindsay McMahon]

For example, you might say something like, I need a few minutes to wash this because it says hand wash only. And you're going to see that on the label most the time.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right? Yes, yes. Then there's dry clean only. Oh man. This is what I try to stay away. No, this is not.

[Lindsay McMahon]

It's very expensive to dry clean, isn't it, Michelle? I mean, and you have to. And it's not just the expense, but it's taking it to the dry cleaner, remembering to pick it up. I'm pretty sure I probably have things at the dry cleaner that I forgot to pick up six months ago.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right, exactly. So you might say this is dry clean only. I think we need to take it in. So a lot of times Dan will have. You know, I, I wonder if it's more for like men who, I don't know, women certainly do dry clean only too. But I feel like Dan is always like, oh, I have all these things I need to dry clean and Yeah, I don't know, maybe I just don't care.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Men's suits or something.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Maybe I write suits, things like that.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah.

[Michelle Kaplan]

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[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah, don't put that in the dryer. It's lay flat to dry. So.

[Lindsay McMahon]

So that's interesting.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah, it's interesting how we say that. Right? Because you could say it says lay flat to dry, but don't. Would you sometimes hear it like this? Like, oh, it's lay flat to dry.

[Lindsay McMahon]

I think that's the way I used it earlier in the episode, actually. So it's like. It's this way. That's really interesting.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah.

[Lindsay McMahon]

So just good one to know here. Very native and natural.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah. Yeah. And that's like. That's a very. I feel that that's a very important instruction because, Lindsay, they do. I mean, I'm sure everyone has experienced shrinking their clothes.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Oh, gosh, yes. Or the worst is shrinking other people's clothes.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Oh, that's even worse.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Right?

[Michelle Kaplan]

Oh, I forgot one. There's also wash with white light. With, like colors.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Light colors. Yes. And it's so funny.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Color.

[Lindsay McMahon]

When I was a kid and I would read that label on, like, my clothes, I would think they mistype it. Do they mean light colors? Right. Thinking if it was a light shirt, it needs to be with light colors. But like colors meaning similar colors. Right, Right.

[Michelle Kaplan]

So you don't throw the red underwear in with all your white shirts. That's.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah. These are all just mishaps that happen to us, especially when we're teenagers and just doing our laundry for the first time. Right, sure.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah. So, yeah. Separate. So you might see separate lights and darks or something like take that red shirt out of there. That this is a load of light clothes.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Oh, and I don't do that. Do you do that? Do you separate? I don't separate.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Oh, absolutely not. I have no time for separating. I mean, you know, maybe my clothes could look a little nicer if I followed some of the directions. I do. I did buy a shirt and Dan threw it in the dryer and it's already, you know, it's too small. So like, you know, those kinds of things happen all the time. But I, I am. I will not separate anything. Everything goes on the same thing.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Well, this is kind of fun. And this is why this is a connection episode. If you're not connecting listeners on the topic, think about how it's a connection episod. Because we have our ways, right? Both you and I don't separate. It's just. And there's some. That is again saying something more about ourselves than just the fact that we don't separate. What light and dark. Yeah, it's saying that we are busy or we have things to do or we have other priorities.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yes, exactly. I think that's what it talks is about, is having the priorities. So yes, it just. Everybody's different, right?

[Lindsay McMahon]

Totally. Or it might be that maybe we don't value clothing quite as much as other people do. Some people will hang dry everything and they will share that because they're proud of that, because they want to keep their clothing good. Maybe they buy super high end clothes or something. So this is a topic again where you can say so much more about yourself than just about the laundry. Your laundry habits. Right, True.

[Michelle Kaplan]

That's really interesting. And then the last one I just wanted to highlight is tumble dry. So yes, that, that is just throwing it in the dryer. Sometimes you might see tumble dry low. Like there's a certain level at which to tumble dry it. I don't really pay attention to that either.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Michelle, why don't we hop into the role play here? Shall we go for it?

[Michelle Kaplan]

Let's do it. Let's do it. So all right, here we are roommates and we're doing our laundry together. Here we go. All right. Okay. Okay. So. Oh no, this is dry clean only. It'll. I'll take it to the place across the street.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Okay. Remind me not to throw in my green dress again. It's hand wash only.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Okay, I will. And I wish we had our own washer dryer.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Same. Hey, did you bring the laundry detergent and fabric softener?

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yes, right over there.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Thanks.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Okay, so should we separate lights and colors? What about delicates?

[Lindsay McMahon]

I guess try our best. Just let's make sure not to tumble dry something that says lay flat to dry.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Okay, good point. Yeah.

[Lindsay McMahon]

And this is actually another interesting moment where connection could happen for our listeners. So if you're living in a big city and you go to the laundromat, maybe you happen to go with your roommate one day for whatever reason, you and your roommate go together. That could happen. Right, Michelle? And this is a way you'll have the vocabulary to get to know your roommate in that moment because you're sitting there for a couple of hours just staring at the thing going around.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right. It is true. Right? I mean, I think I. Whenever I think of the Laundromat, of course I think of Friends because there's. There's an episode with Ross and Rachel in the laundromat that's pretty. Pretty famous episode. Fun. Yeah. So I always think of that. But it is true. The Laundromat is kind of known for being this place where people can connect. You're just waiting. That's all you got to do, you know?

[Lindsay McMahon]

So it's true. Yeah, it's so true.

[Michelle Kaplan]

You.

[Lindsay McMahon]

I'm trying to remember if in other cities. I don't even remember if when I lived in Paris, if I. I think we did it at home in my. My home, stay. My little apartment. But I don't know, around the world if people go to laundromats or if they usually have a place in their apartment or in their home or how it works. Wash and fold, where they. They carry it away for you. I don't know. It's probably all different scenarios, but at some point we're gonna have this conversation with someone. Right, Michelle?

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah, absolutely. So let's go through the role play.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Okay.

[Michelle Kaplan]

So I said, oh, no, this is dry clean only. So I'm gonna take it in somewhere.

[Lindsay McMahon]

And then I said, oh, remind me not to throw in my green dress again. It's hand wash only. So it sounds like I made that mistake before you made a video. Don't want to do it again. Yes.

[Michelle Kaplan]

And then I said, man, I wish we had our own washer dryer.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Good. And then I said, hey, did you bring the laundry detergent and fabric Softener. So again, we talked about those words.

[Michelle Kaplan]

And then I said, okay, so should we separate lights and colors? So we're talking about, you know, if we want to wash with like colors, basically. And then I said that what is delicates? I said, what about delicate? What does that mean?

[Lindsay McMahon]

So I guess items that are like, you have to be careful with them. They have to go on the delicate cycle potentially.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Is that what it is?

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah. So I think of like, you know, for like a, like bras or bathing.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Suits maybe that you don't want the suits.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Just certain, certain clothing that. Just lighter, you know, underwear sometimes. But I, I also don't do this.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah, yeah, that's hard there. I don't do a separate cycle for those. No way. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Michelle Kaplan]

So, and then let's see. You said, just let's make sure not to tumble dry something that says lay flat to dry. So it sounds like we've had an issue in the past where we've done some shrinking and maybe even with.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Right, that's not good. Yeah, not good. Well, good episode today, Michelle. Where else can our listeners go right now to keep going with allers English.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Okay, so there was another great episode you did with Aubrey. I believe another great connection topic, episode 2476 was out of Juice, how to connect over Dead batteries. It's interesting how we were picking up on these kind of mundane day to day topics that actually are super great for connection. It's funny. Absolutely.

[Lindsay McMahon]

It's where the connection lies. Right? That is where the connection is. If we just pay attention to who are we with, who's around us and what are the words we need in that moment. I think that's inspiring. Even laundry can be inspiring. Look at that, Michelle.

[Michelle Kaplan]

So excellent. All right, guys, again, fine business English, wherever you listen to your podcast and hit the follow button because part two will be coming out out soon and then head back over here for part three. So, yeah, I think takeaway is just what we were saying, Lindsay, about the mundane topics being great for connection. So definitely don't, you know, throw those by the wayside or think, oh, that's, you know, not that interesting or whatever because it, it actually can bring about a lot of connection. So don't, don't ignore these or like kind of push them away. They're very important.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Completely agree, Michelle. Thanks for hanging out and chatting about laundry. Laundry detergent, fabric softener, all that good stuff. So we'll see you next time.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Anytime. All right, guys, have a great day. Bye. Bye.

[Lindsay McMahon]

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[Michelle Kaplan]

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