AEE 2529: This Episode Is Spicy

Summary

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All Ears English Podcast – Episode 2529: “This Episode Is Spicy”

Hosts: Lindsay McMahon & Michelle Kaplan
Date: December 11, 2025

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Episode Overview

This energetic episode delves into the evolving use of the word “spice” (and “spicy”) in American English, from its literal culinary meaning to fresh slang uses. Responding to a listener’s question, Lindsay and Michelle explore traditional and new ways to use “spice,” including emerging slang trends among younger speakers. Throughout, they highlight how colloquial English adapts, share fun examples, and branch out to related colorful expressions like “flair” and “flavor.”

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Listener Question: “It’s a Spice”

• [03:03] The episode centers on a listener’s confusion: “When my friend said, ‘it’s a spice,’ did he mean something exciting or interesting? Are there other ways to use the word?”
  • Hosts’ Reaction: Both Lindsay and Michelle admit they’re unfamiliar with the exact phrase “it’s a spice” as currently used, but acknowledge that such slang is always evolving, especially among younger speakers (Gen Z).
  • Quote:

    “I haven’t heard it like this…maybe this is something new that the young kids are saying.” – Michelle Kaplan [04:12]

2. Literal Uses of “Spice”

• [04:51] Lindsay clarifies how “spice” can refer to actual food ingredients (e.g., paprika, cardamom).
• [05:09] Friendly banter about favorite and least favorite spices:
  • “What is it? Annie? Annis.” – Lindsay
  • “Oh, anise…like licorice!” – Michelle [05:21]
  • Both dislike licorice-flavored spices.

3. “Spice” as Slang & Example Sentences

• [07:13] Michelle shares invented sample sentences for the slang use:
  • “Her fashion sense is a spice. I’m always curious to see what she’ll wear.”
  • “I have to tell you the news I heard. Trust me, it’s a spice.”
• Acknowledgement: The phrase feels experimental, not fully mainstream yet.

4. The Evolution of Slang

• [07:26]

  “We have to have new slang coming out all the time…kids don’t want to repeat the slang that their parents use.” – Lindsay McMahon [07:26]

• [07:33] Michelle shares a current youth fad: “the six, seven thing,” a meaningless but popular gesture among kids, illustrating how some slang truly has no direct meaning.

5. Real-Life Example: Blue Hair and “A Spice”

• [08:11] Lindsay jokes: “My husband dyed his hair blue. It’s a spice.”
  • Turns out, Michelle’s husband actually did this for a charity event!
  • “He did have it like that for a funeral…” – Michelle [08:45]
  • The phrase “he’s a spice in general, gotta love him,” reflects playful personalization of the slang. [08:56]

6. Comparing “Spice” to Other Modern Expressions

• [09:10]
  • “It’s kind of similar to when people say ‘it’s a vibe’ or ‘she’s a whole vibe’… It means it’s its own thing, out of the ordinary.” – Lindsay
  • Michelle shares how her daughter was described as “a vibe” by a friend.

7. Idiomatic Expressions with “Spice,” “Spicy,” “Flair,” and “Flavor”

• [11:19] Idiom: “Spice things up”
  • Making something more exciting or interesting.
  • “This is a great essay, but maybe we should spice it up with some personal stories.” – Lindsay [11:34]
• [11:54] “Spicy” as Adjective
  • Can describe challenging tasks, flirtatious topics, or someone’s sassy personality.
  • “Sometimes when I go to the gym, the coach will say, ‘Oh, those burpees were spicy.’” – Lindsay [12:13]
  • “Tell me everything. I need all the spicy details.” – Michelle [12:34]
• [12:39] “Juicy details” is similar to “spicy details,” meaning intriguing or scandalous information.
• [13:00] “Flair” (Pop Culture Reference)
  • Discussion of the movie “Office Space” and the need for “pieces of flair.”
  • “We have to recommend that movie to our listeners… it’s like a cultural icon of a movie.” – Lindsay [13:26]
  • “Flair” can mean adding special, creative touches to things (like decor), not just clothing.
• [14:45] “Flavor”
  • Can be literal or figurative: “We added some flavor to this speech with a few jokes.” – Lindsay [14:48]
  • Not just food related—“flavor” signifies uniqueness or personality in any context.

8. Role Play: Using All the Expressions

• [15:29 – 15:46] The hosts act out a conversation using all the key terms:
  • Michelle: “Oh, it was so much fun. Seriously, it was a spice.”
  • Lindsay: “Definitely. I love the decorations. The flair was amazing.”
  • Michelle: “Yes. So much flavor. I’m glad she spiced it up from last year.”
  • Lindsay: “Now tell me the spicy gossip about George.”
  • Michelle: “Okay, here goes.”

9. Discussion: Staying Current with Slang

• [15:54] Lindsay notes, “You should consult with a Gen Z-er,” and that slang’s generational nature means some expressions don’t cross age groups.
• [16:16] “I don’t know if I would necessarily use this around my Gen X friends and my older Millennial friends…” – Lindsay

10. Takeaways

• Spice, spicy, flair, flavor, vibe: all can make your English more colorful and “fun to speak” [15:20]
• Slang evolves rapidly and isn’t always universally understood. Use with awareness of audience.
• Related pop culture (like “Office Space”) still provides vocab and context for certain expressions.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On new slang:

  “Sometimes you just were like, I could never say that because I'd feel so ridiculous. But then sometimes… it does seep over into the different generations.” – Michelle [16:29]

• On describing a challenging workout:

  “The coach will say, ‘Oh, those burpees were spicy.’” – Lindsay [12:13]

• On cultural references:

  “If you want to see a movie that is still referenced culturally… go watch Office Space. It’s like a cultural icon of a movie.” – Lindsay [13:26]

• On the appeal of fun vocabulary:

  “It just makes it fun to speak English when we have fun words like this to use.” – Lindsay [15:20]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:03 – Listener Question: “It’s a spice”
• 04:51 – Literal vs. slang use of “spice”
• 07:13 – Example slang sentences; hosts’ opinions
• 08:11 – Real-life: blue hair and “a spice”
• 09:10 – “Spice” and “vibe” compared
• 11:19 – Idioms: “spice things up”, “spicy”, “flair”, “flavor”
• 13:00 – Pop culture: “pieces of flair” in Office Space
• 15:29 – 15:46 – Role play with all expressions
• 16:16 – Generational use of slang

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Summary Table: Expressions Covered

| Expression | Meaning / Use | Example from Episode | |---------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------| | “It’s a spice” | (Emerging slang) It’s exciting, interesting, a stand-out| “Her fashion sense is a spice.” | | “Spice up” | Make something more lively, interesting | “Let’s spice it up with some personal stories.” | | “Spicy” | Challenging, intriguing, even flirtatious | “Those burpees were spicy.” / “Spicy details.” | | “Flair” | Flashy, creative touches; derived from pop culture | “Add some flair to this place.” | | “Flavor” | Added personality or depth, beyond just taste | “We added some flavor to this speech with jokes.” | | “Vibe” | Person, thing, or situation with a distinct energy | “She’s a whole vibe.” |

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Final Thoughts

The episode blends linguistic curiosity, pop culture, and humor, illustrating both the importance and the fun of playing with English expressions. The hosts encourage listeners to try new slang, while remaining conscious of generational and context cues. Whether you’re “spicing up” your vocabulary or adding “flair” to an essay, embracing these expressions will enrich your American English conversations.

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Transcript

[Lindsay McMahon]

This is an All Ears English podcast. Episode 2529. This episode is spicy.

Welcome to the All Ears English podcast. Downloaded more than 200 million times. Are you feeling stuck with your English? We'll show you how to become fearless and fluent by focusing on connection, not perfection with your American hosts, Lindsay McMahon, the English adventurer and Michelle Kaplan, the New York radio girl coming to you from Colorado and New York City, usa. To get real time transcripts right on your phone and create your personalized vocabulary list, try the All Ears English app for iOS and Android. Start your seven day free trial at allearsenglish.com.

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[Michelle Kaplan]

Today we break into the world of expressing excitement, color, variety and more with a few interesting expressions plus a brand new one emerging on the scene. Now listen in today.

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[Lindsay McMahon]

Hey Michelle, how's it going?

[Michelle Kaplan]

It's going well, Lindsay. How are you?

[Lindsay McMahon]

Good.

Michelle, are you a spicy food person?

Do you like spicy food?

[Michelle Kaplan]

I do, yeah, definitely. What about you?

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah, I've gotten to like it a bit more since I moved to Colorado cuz we have a lot of like.

Green chilies from New Mexico. We have.

We have pretty spicy food here actually if you look for it.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah. Oh that's good. Yeah. So today we are going to actually answer a listener question about the word spice.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah. Cool.

[Michelle Kaplan]

This question comes to us from YouTube. Would you like to read it for us?

[Lindsay McMahon]

Okay.

Yes. Don't forget guys, we have a whole YouTube channel.

It's growing fast. If you prefer to consume the show.

On YouTube, you can do that. If you go over and find Allers.

English and hit subscribe, you'll get every.

Episode in the same way you get.

Them on the podcast. So this is from a a o.

The listener says hello Michelle and Lindsay. I'm an English learner in Japan, and I've been listening to your podcast every day to improve my English. Love that. Love that. Thank you.

Thank you. It's so fun to listen to your podcast.

Thank you again. I have a question. It's about the word spice. When I was talking with a friend.

He said, it's a spice.

Probably he meant something that makes something else more exciting and interesting. But I keep wondering if there are any other ways to use the word. I love your podcast and your YouTube channel. Well, great.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Thank you so much. What a good question. I mean, yeah. So, yeah, it's a spice. That's interesting. I actually had to look this one up because, Lindsay, have you heard someone say, oh, it's a spice?

[Lindsay McMahon]

I don't think I have, Michelle. I mean, maybe this is something new that the young kids are saying.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right, right, exactly. But when I looked it up, I mean, it's. It's. It's. It is something. Right. So I did see examples in the way that this listener mentioned. Right. So, like, the listener said he probably. He meant something that makes something else more exciting and interesting. So, yeah, pretty much. But I just haven't heard it like this. So we're going to talk more about this in just a second. But, guys, make sure that you hit the follow button or hit subscribe on YouTube, wherever you listening to Allers English so you don't miss anything.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah. And I think the key here is listening for context.

Michelle.

So something. So someone literally could be saying, you.

Know, there's spice in something, or something is a spice.

Like, what is cardamom?

What is paprika?

It's a spice.

Or they could be using something trendy and slangy, like what it sounds like your friend was using.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right, right, right. Like, Lindsay, do you cook with a lot of spices or do you have a favorite spice or maybe a spice you don't like?

[Lindsay McMahon]

Oh, a spice I don't like.

What is it? Annie? Annis.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Oh, anise.

[Lindsay McMahon]

It's like the black.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Like licorice. Licorice, yeah, yeah.

[Lindsay McMahon]

The licorice flavor. No. Do you not either?

[Michelle Kaplan]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Lindsay McMahon]

That one. I think a lot of people like licorice, but I just. Yeah, it's just not my flavor, so. Yeah. What about you, Michelle? Are you a spice person when it comes to cooking?

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah, yeah, I like to. I like to spice things up.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Oh, I like to see what you did there.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yep, I do. I. I don't know. Yeah, I feel like I use a lot of pa.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Okay.

[Michelle Kaplan]

I use. Is salt a spice?

[Lindsay McMahon]

Oh, I Don't think so.

No. I think it's more of.

[Michelle Kaplan]

It doesn't count as a spice. But I do use too much salt. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah, you're better. So it makes everything. Yeah, yeah.

[Michelle Kaplan]

I'm kind of. I could be better about that. But, like, I know I. I don't. I think. I don't, like. I don't, like, love rosemary.

I don't. There's some that, like, I'm not a huge fan. Fan of where you taste and you're like, oh, I don't. Is gin. No, ginger's. Not technically is ginger.

[Lindsay McMahon]

I don't know.

I think it's in my spice rack. So it.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah, right.

[Lindsay McMahon]

It's a root, right? It's like a root, I guess. But, yeah, you can make spice from it.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Learning a lot today we are learning.

[Lindsay McMahon]

A lot from each other. We need a little more information on cooking here. You shouldn't be asking me for cooking advice. I know nothing about cooking, so I don't know.

[Michelle Kaplan]

That's funny. So, but in the other context. Right. Or it's a spice. It could definitely mean something that is added that's extra special. So maybe like pizzazz or something exciting, unique, whatever it might be. So, yeah, let's do some examples. And again, I will say that I haven't heard it used in this way, but when. So I'm going off of what I've found other people saying. So these are my examples. But yeah, just hopefully this would be what you would really hear.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Exactly. So her fashion sense is a spice. I'm always curious to see what she will wear.

Interesting.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Or I have to tell you the news I heard. Trust me, it's a spice.

[Lindsay McMahon]

I mean, we have to have new.

Slang coming out all the time.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Because kids don't want to repeat the.

Slang that their parents use. I mean, that's the last thing they want to do. So they have to make up.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Oh, there's a lot going on right now. Have you heard the six, seven thing?

[Lindsay McMahon]

No.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Oh, my God. There's something now where kids just go, six, seven, and they, like, move their hands in this way and like. But it's like going all around like wildfire. And, like, I think it means nothing. That's what I've heard. It's actually no meaning. It's just like people like saying, oh, my gosh.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah, they want to invent their own slang. They don't want to talk like their parents. Right. Because especially when you get older, you get to be a teenager, you kind of like, roll your eyes at your parents. At least I did for a while. That's coming for you, Michelle. I think.

Here's another one. My husband dyed his hair blue. It's a spice.

[Michelle Kaplan]

So my husband actually did dye his hair blue.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Oh, jeez. It sounds like a damn thing to do. Yeah.

[Michelle Kaplan]

He has blue hair. It was for a charity event, but he dyed it permanently until it grows out.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Oh, my gosh.

Until it grows out.

Michelle, that's.

Wow.

[Michelle Kaplan]

The whole top of his head is blue. I mean, he has very short hair on the sides, but. Yes. So it is a spice.

[Lindsay McMahon]

That could take a while. Are you going to any weddings this year?

[Michelle Kaplan]

I mean.

No, but.

He did have. He did have it like that for a funeral, so.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Oh, wow. Okay. That's.

[Michelle Kaplan]

That's. Yeah, it's a little.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Pretty funny.

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Yeah.

[Michelle Kaplan]

So. But he. He's a spice in general. Gotta love him. So again. Again, I. I haven't really used it, but it sounds like maybe it's becoming popular. And it does make sense. I mean. Does make sense.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah.

I mean, it's kind of similar to. Makes me think of when people say it's a vibe or it's a whole vibe. Right.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Hear that?

[Lindsay McMahon]

She's a whole vibe.

Yeah.

It means it's its own thing.

There's something going on there.

It's above. It's out of the ordinary, maybe, let's say. Right. Yeah.

Yeah.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Once my. My friend described my daughter as a vibe.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Okay. Yeah, that's.

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[Michelle Kaplan]

She's definitely a vibe. Whatever it means, she's, you know, speaking speciality.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Right.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Lindsay McMahon]

I love it. Interesting.

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Okay, so there are other things that we say with spice and flair. Right. So you said this at the beginning. You said, I like to spice things up. Right. I think when I asked you if you use spices, which is kind of a fun play on words. Right.

Making something more interesting or exciting. This is a great essay, but maybe we should spice it up with some personal stories. Right?

[Michelle Kaplan]

So, yeah, you could be talking about actual spices. Oh, this, like, dish is a little bland. Let's spice it up. Add some garlic. Right? Yeah. But it could also be used not for cooking.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yes.

[Michelle Kaplan]

So and then there's just spicy, which we talked about the beginning. So it could be about the taste being spicy, but it could also be something interesting, exciting, even sexy or.

[Lindsay McMahon]

What I really like is when something is like someone is. Someone pushes back a little bit. Like, someone is a little testy. Their personality is a little spicy.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Spicy right now.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Oh, you're being spicy. Or sometimes when I go to the gym, the. The coach will say, oh, those burpees were spicy.

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Right.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Meaning you'll hear that.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah, Spicy workout today.

[Michelle Kaplan]

I do hear it like that. I do Ye. Something that's, like, hard. Like, really hard to do. Yep.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Y. I actually like that use. This is kind of fun. It's kind of fun.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah. So, like, tell me everything. I need all the spicy details. You might also hear juicy details.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Juicy details, Right. Flare is another one.

So let's see.

[Michelle Kaplan]

So for this is not with the word spice, but I wanted to add in a couple. So have you ever seen the movie Office Space?

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah, of course.

With Milton and. Right. Isn't that.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yes.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah, of course. Yes.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Jennifer Aniston. Remember how they have the piece pieces of flair?

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah, I think I remember that. Yeah.

[Michelle Kaplan]

They're like. So they work at a restaurant, and they have to, like, they have. With their uniform, they have to have certain pieces of flair.

You know, and they have to have, like, a certain amount of things that they, like, wear on their uniform to, like, be special or show for maybe for the specific restaurant. I can't remember exactly, but pieces of flair.

[Lindsay McMahon]

We have to recommend that movie to our listeners, guys. If you.

[Michelle Kaplan]

It's Hilarious.

[Lindsay McMahon]

If you want to see a movie that is still referenced culturally, especially among Gen Xers and millennials, I would say go watch Office Space. It's like a cultural icon of a movie. You kind of need to watch it to be in the zeitgeist a little bit still, I think. Right, right. It's great.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Exactly like, oh, the stapler.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Remember the stapler is the first thing I about.

What did he. What's the one?

[Michelle Kaplan]

He's like. I was told I would have a. Something like that. Like, I was. This poor guy is like, poor guy.

[Lindsay McMahon]

And the way he speaks, like, poor. You just feel bad for him, you know? Oh, my. Guys, go watch Office Space. Make that your project for the weekend. We'll call it your fluency building activity. Right, Good.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yes.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah.

[Michelle Kaplan]

So, but yeah, flare could be like, just like some, like, another word for kind of spice. So you'd say this place is looking a little bland. Let's add some flair. Maybe more for, like, seeing something rather than like, I don't know that I would be like, let's add some flair to this meal. Like. Yeah, I don't know.

[Lindsay McMahon]

And you might even catch a culture.

Like, people might even be referring to the movie. Yeah, right.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yep.

[Lindsay McMahon]

If they remember that scene.

That's why it's important for our listeners to watch these movies. This is the kind of thing that could come up in a reference, and you don't want to just be like, what are you talking about? Or two other people are laughing while you're standing there feeling silly. Yeah, that doesn't feel good. Okay.

[Michelle Kaplan]

No, no, no, it doesn't.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Flavor is the last one.

We added some flavor to this speech with a few jokes, so just.

Yeah, adding interest. Adding something that's maybe a little emotional.

Or something gonna make people laugh. Yeah, right.

[Michelle Kaplan]

So it's interesting because. Yeah, that one. You know when you hear the word flavor, you think of food. Right. What is the flavor of this? But it can also be used in this kind of voice. So interesting how some food expressions can be used to talk about. Yeah.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah, that is interesting, isn't it? Yeah, I love that.

Yep.

So these are fun. These are going to add.

Well, it just makes it fun to.

Speak English when we have fun words like this to use.

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Right.

[Lindsay McMahon]

So let's show it in a role play. So here, Michelle, we are talking about our friend's party.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Okay.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Okay, Here we go.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Oh, it was so much fun. Seriously, it was a spice.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Definitely.

I love the decorations. The flair was amazing.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yes. So much flavor. I'm glad she spiced it up from last year.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Now tell me the spicy gossip about George.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Okay, here goes.

[Lindsay McMahon]

All right, so here. Are you using the trendy new expression that all the kids are using, I guess, right?

[Michelle Kaplan]

I guess.

[Lindsay McMahon]

I don't know. Yeah, you should consult with a. A Gen Z or here, guys, just to make sure we're track. These new things come up all the time. Aubrey can sometimes clue us in because her kids sometimes.

Right.

Use these things.

But, you know, I think language is always changing. That's the cool part. And we want to make sure we're adjusting our language for who we're around too.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Like, I don't know if I would.

Necessarily use this around my Gen X.

Friends and my, like, older millennial friends, Right? Because they might be like, what are you talking about?

But sometimes they do span the generations too.

[Michelle Kaplan]

That's. That's a whole. That's a really big conversation. It's like sometimes you just were like, I could never say that because I'd feel so ridiculous. But then sometimes. Sometimes does seep over into the different generations. Like my friend calling my daughter a vibe like.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Right.

[Michelle Kaplan]

You know, it's. It's very interesting how it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Certain ones do and certain ones don't. It's really.

[Michelle Kaplan]

It's fascinating.

[Lindsay McMahon]

And how do you know which one's gonna go viral and which ones are gonna just stay niche down to that generation? We don'.

All right, then what. Where are we at?

[Michelle Kaplan]

You said, you said, I loved the decorations. The flare was amazing.

[Lindsay McMahon]

And then you said, yes, so much flavor.

I'm glad she spiced it up from last year.

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Right.

[Michelle Kaplan]

So maybe the decorations were a little boring last year. So then you said, now tell me the spicy gossip about George.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah, spicy is definitely my favorite word here because it can mean so many different things.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right.

[Lindsay McMahon]

Scandalous, difficulty, having an attitude, pushing back. You know, there's a lot you can do with by saying something is spicy. Right?

[Michelle Kaplan]

Exactly. Oh, my gosh. Well, this is definitely fun. This is a great question from the listener. I learned something new today, guys. If you don't feel comfortable giving it's a spice a try, we gave you tons of other options that, you know, have a similar idea. So, you know, definitely see how you can work these in. And if you haven't yet, head on over and listen to episode 2522. That was what to say when you lose your train of thought. Very important.

[Lindsay McMahon]

What a human episode that was. I loved that episode because it happens.

To everyone in every language all over.

The world, every day we lose our train of thought.

But what are you going to say.

That'S going to determine whether the moment.

Feels awkward and disconnected or whether you.

Feel connected to the person you're talking to?

Right?

[Michelle Kaplan]

That's right. Good. All right. Any final words before we head out?

[Lindsay McMahon]

Yeah, the final word is just hit the follow button, guys, on the show, if you love Allers English and we hope to have more good episodes soon. We will, of course.

[Michelle Kaplan]

All right. Thanks for chatting with me today. Bye, guys.

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[Lindsay McMahon]

Bye, Michelle. See ya. Bye.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Bye.

[Lindsay McMahon]

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