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Lindsay McMahon
This is an All Ears English podcast. Find your happy place in this episode. Welcome to the All Ears English podcast, downloaded more than 200 million times. Are you feeling stuck with your English? We'll show you how to become fearless and fluent by focusing on connection, not perfection, with your American hosts, Lindsay McMahon, the English adventurer, and Michelle Kaplan, the New York radio girl. Coming to you from Colorado and New York City, usa. To get real time transcripts right on your phone and create your personalized vocabulary list, try the Allears English app for iOS and Android. Start your seven day free trial at allearsenglish.com forward/app.
Michelle Kaplan
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Lindsay McMahon
R E hey there, Michelle. How are you today?
Michelle Kaplan
Good, Lindsay? I'm good. How are you? We're happy to be recording with you again. You too. You too.
Lindsay McMahon
I'm back from my vacation to Europe. I was in London, Belgium, and back and ready to get back into podcasting, Michelle. But I have a question for you today. Are you ready?
Michelle Kaplan
Yes, I'm ready.
Lindsay McMahon
So, Michelle, what is your happy place?
Michelle Kaplan
Ooh. What is my happy place? So, I don't know. I was thinking about this. I. I would say I have a couple happy places. Like one would be. This sounds funny, but the Upper west side is a happy place of mine. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. And then I would say, also, when I hear the term happy place, it also makes me think not necessarily of a place that I go to a lot, but maybe like, I, I think of my friend's house, my friend Ally's house, from when we had sleepovers as a kid and whenever her parents still live in. I mean, they still live part of the year in that house. And so I went back over Thanksgiving and it just. When you have those kind of nostalgic feelings about a place, you realize how warm it makes you feel just being there. So I would say, I would say those are kind of two of my Happy places. But I wouldn't say my happy place is like the beach like I feel like it is for most people. What about you? What's your happy place?
Lindsay McMahon
Well, probably. So it sounds like for you, Michelle, just to extend. My question here is. It's the. The memory. Love spending time at your friend's house as a kid. Is that kind of. Because now, like, you're an adult and you're not doing the sleepovers anymore. Maybe you are. I don't know.
Michelle Kaplan
No, no, no. Right.
Lindsay McMahon
But so the happy place now, when you think of that, it's the thought of that in a way. So it's kind of a physical place, and it's also the memory of something that's kind of cool.
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah.
Lindsay McMahon
For me, it's really being outside, especially in the mountains. And if I. I love visiting small towns, even in Colorado or when I'm traveling abroad. So anytime I'm traveling, have very few kind of possessions with me. Right. So just having a backpack, I love that. That is totally my happy place, Michelle.
Michelle Kaplan
So, yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna agree with you on that part. Yeah. I'm gonna mention, you know, I was just telling Lindsay off the mic that I recently did sort of a staycation, even though I don't live in Maryland now. I was in Maryland and we went to some places that I usually don't go when I'm there. And I realized that they were all very similar places that we're going to. You know, the sm, like, you know, Georgetown, Alexandria, Virginia, Annapolis. These cute towns where you can walk around, go, you know. So. Yeah, also in that vein, Lindsay, what you said, just that walking around and experiencing a new. A new place. So, I mean. But Lindsay, what. What is a happy place?
Lindsay McMahon
Yeah, good question. So a happy place is really either a physical place or potentially a mindset, a thought, a zone of thinking that makes you happy. Right. It's really that simple. But it's so common in native English right now.
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah, exactly. You. You probably feel at peace or just good about life or like, in my instance, it could be that it brings you back to something, a memory or childhood, makes you feel nostalgic, whatever it is. And Lindsay, I mean, I feel like in the times where I have done meditation, you know, you hear this. I don't know if you go to your happy place or try and feel less anxious. Right. Do you hear that?
Lindsay McMahon
Not exactly. It depends on who's teaching and what kind of school of teaching they're using. Usually the meditation I follow is more just be not Anywhere, just be and drop thought in a sense or come back to your breath. So you could literally be anywhere. I mean, you could achieve happiness through meditation, being in any circumstance. That's the idea ultimately. Right. So, yeah, it just depends on who's teaching.
Michelle Kaplan
Right.
Lindsay McMahon
What the methods are, I guess.
Michelle Kaplan
All right, awesome. Well, guys, we hope that we are your happy place. So if. If all ears English is a happy place for you, then make sure you hit the follow button so that you never miss any of our episodes.
Lindsay McMahon
Yes, I love that. I think we are a happy place. A happy place for some of our listeners. So guys, make sure you tell your friends about the show as well. Let them know about Allers English and our motto of connection, not perfection so they can come to Allers English for their happy place. I love it. So good. All right, Michelle, what do we need to know here when it comes to happy place?
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah, so I mean, this is just a really great expression to use in English conversations. I mean, you know, someone might use this. I mean, meditation was one I thought of. Like, maybe they don't say it outright, but maybe you kind of try and visualize that you're in a different place or sometimes for relaxation or you try and go to your happy place. So I'm on the beach. I have my feet up, so maybe more so relaxation or relaxation to calm down. Meditation.
Lindsay McMahon
Sometimes when I can't sleep, I'll put on like rain noises or ocean noises. Do you ever do that when you have a hard time?
Michelle Kaplan
I sleep. Yeah, I sleep with white noise. It definitely helps me. It's not rain or ocean, but I say, I think it's the one that's called calm. And it's just kind of like probably makes you feel like you're in the womb. I don't know.
Lindsay McMahon
Interesting. That might be the idea behind it.
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah.
Lindsay McMahon
So that for some people that would be going to your happy place, you do envision being in like a rainforest or on the beach or in the womb, I guess.
Michelle Kaplan
Weird. But yeah, this is good for talking about de stressing or I. I think it's also to con good for connecting with somebody over a cool place. So maybe you share the same happy place and it lead to a greater conversation, right?
Lindsay McMahon
Yes.
Michelle Kaplan
Oh, my gosh. I. I used to live on the Upper west side. Oh, my gosh. I love the Upper west side. That is so my happy place. Right? Yeah.
Lindsay McMahon
Oh, yeah. Major connection skill here. And Michelle, do you agree, do you think that a happy place could also be like a. A time of the week, like a Friday afternoon place, right?
Michelle Kaplan
Yes. I don't know that I hear people using it as like, I think, you know, I don't know if I would say it's Friday, it's my happy.
Lindsay McMahon
Right.
Michelle Kaplan
But I do believe that it can. That, you know, maybe, maybe there's something else that we say for that. But. But yeah, I do definitely believe that it can be a time of year. I mean people love the holiday season or summertime, right? So a happy place, it doesn't have to just be. I, I believe that it can be a time of the year. What do you think? I love it.
Lindsay McMahon
So true. Good stuff.
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Lindsay McMahon
Okay, Michelle, so yo, this is a really common expression now, but there are other things that people say that seem similar that get to the same point, right? A little bit more wordy maybe. So for example, where I feel at peace, right? Where I feel at peace. How does that look, Michelle?
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah, so you could say something like the beach is where I feel most at peace. I love putting my feet in the sand and reading and just reading a good book. Yes. Yeah. Do you feel at peace at the beach, Lindsay?
Lindsay McMahon
Well, I was gonna say another example of a happy place for me is not exactly the beach, but it's where my parents used to live on the harbor in Scituate, Massachusetts. They don't live there anym. So that was a happy place for me because when I went there I could smell the ocean and I was going to spend time with family. So often it's not just a physical location. Sometimes it's about who is there.
Michelle Kaplan
Right.
Lindsay McMahon
Like you said with your friend with the sleepovers, who's there.
Michelle Kaplan
Right. It's not just the house. Right. It's not because this, these four walls of the house were my happy places because of what was happening, who was there. Just. Yeah, definitely in the nostalgia and just the general feeling I'm there right now. Now I'm thinking about it. Oh, it wasn't nice.
Lindsay McMahon
Yeah, it's so true. Michelle, what about this expression zone?
Michelle Kaplan
Out.
Lindsay McMahon
What about that?
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah, this is kind of a related expression. I mean, it can be zone out can be a negative thing. Sorry, I was zoning out. I'm not paying attention. Right. But sometimes we'll use it just when we need some time to just get lost in our head. Right. So, for example, sometimes I just need a few minutes to zone out and take a break from work. Then I can actually work better when I start up again. Lindsay, we talk about that a lot. Just going on a walk. Just. Yeah, going on a walk. Doing something else. Yeah.
Lindsay McMahon
I feel like I've become less good at this. So when I was in high school and college. Well, in college, I used to fly home, right. To see my family from Virginia, and I used to just sit on the plane and zone out for a couple of hours. Now that is unthinkable for me. I need a movie, I need a podcast. I need something to be occupying my brain. It's crazy.
Michelle Kaplan
Interesting. Well, there's that episode of Seinfeld where one of my favorite. One of the funniest things was Elaine was on the plane with her boyfriend, and she's reading a book, and they're on a long flight and he's just sitting, staring off into space, which is another good expression. Stare off into space. He's not doing anything. He's not reading anything. And she said, don't you want something to read? And he said, no. And she said, are you going to go to sleep? And he said, no. And she got so irritated with him because she couldn't imagine why somebody would just sit there. It was so funny.
Lindsay McMahon
I love that. Talk about different personalities, right?
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah. Yes, exactly. And then also. Yeah, so with happy place, you know, is we often say with it, find your happy place or go to your happy place. And we don't necessarily mean actually physically go there, per se. Right. It might just mean that we're in our minds going there. Right?
Lindsay McMahon
Yes, exactly. You need to find the mental balance, that sense of peace. Right. Inner peace. That's what we're trying to find when we say I need to go to my happy place or find my happy place.
Michelle Kaplan
Right? Yeah. Yes, exactly. So I just feel so off lately. I need to find my happy place and start from fresh. What does that mean? To feel off?
Lindsay McMahon
Yeah. Michelle, this could be another episode. Great idea. Right? Good one. To feel off is to feel not right. Like something's not right. Maybe you don't feel happy or just you feel irritated or something is abnormal for your mind state at that.
Michelle Kaplan
Okay, guys, so hit follow. Because yeah, that's going to be a future episode that we could definitely go into that more. I love it. All right, let's do a role play. We're not going to use all of these, but we're going to. We're going to use a bunch. So here we are, strangers, and we sit next to each other on the beach.
Lindsay McMahon
All right, here we go, Michelle.
Michelle Kaplan
All right. This is gorgeous, isn't it?
Lindsay McMahon
Yeah, it's definitely my happy place.
Michelle Kaplan
Oh, for sure. Mine, too. Nowhere better. It's where I feel most at peace. I get that.
Lindsay McMahon
I just zone out and watch the waves.
Michelle Kaplan
Nice.
Lindsay McMahon
Yeah.
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah.
Lindsay McMahon
A lot of people do find the beach to be their happy place, right? Yes, they do.
Michelle Kaplan
And I'm not one of those people.
Lindsay McMahon
I think if I had to choose between beach and mountains, I actually probably think it would. I don't know. I really like how raw the beach is. Like, it's just raw nature, you know, it's so wild, and I love that.
Michelle Kaplan
It's just.
Lindsay McMahon
I don't know. It's very impressive. I think the ocean.
Michelle Kaplan
It's not that I, I, listen, I don't hate the beach. I don't. But I. I would like to take a nice walk through it and then go to the boardwalk. Right. You know, I. I like to take a walk on the beach and then go do something else. I. I. Not the person that can sit there for four hours.
Lindsay McMahon
Oh, no. Yeah. No, for sure, for sure. Yeah. Baking in the sun, right? No, me neither. No, that is not me. All right, let's talk. See, what we said here, Michelle? You said, this is, isn't it? And I said, yes, definitely my happy place.
Michelle Kaplan
And I said, oh, sorry, go ahead.
Lindsay McMahon
No, I was going to say my intonation there is kind of interesting.
Michelle Kaplan
Right.
Lindsay McMahon
I said, definitely my happy place. So I kind of emphasized my, didn't I?
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah, you did. Showing. I mean, here we're strangers, right. So we're just kind of sitting down next to each other and. Yeah. So you emphasizing my really shows, you know, that you want to, you know, explain that this is special to you, right?
Lindsay McMahon
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And then what did you say, Michelle?
Michelle Kaplan
And then I said, oh, for sure. Mine, too. Nowhere better. And then I said, it's where I feel most at peace.
Lindsay McMahon
Yes, it's where I feel most at peace. And then I said, I get that. I just zone out and watch the waves.
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah.
Lindsay McMahon
I like this context that we're strangers, because sometimes we do have conversations with strangers.
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah.
Lindsay McMahon
You know, especially when we're traveling, maybe on a train and they're these short conversations, but you can connect around certain things, certain values, right?
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And that's. Yeah. How you do build these connections. I mean. Yeah, it's not that we're necessarily going to be best friends forever. We're just two strangers on the beach. But you can have a nice conversation and feel that, you know. Yeah. That's the interesting thing about vacations. Did you ever as a kid make vacation friends or, you know. Yeah, that's a, that's a fun thing growing up to make those vacation friends.
Lindsay McMahon
Sure. Yeah. Maybe you were renting a house with your family and another kid was renting a house next door. Right. That kind of thing. It's fun. Or even like at conferences, you might meet someone at a happy hour the first night and then you, you see them all over the conference and you just kind of check in. How's it going? Are you making good contacts? That sort of things. These are like temporary friendships. It's interesting.
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah. Dan and I, we have a thing like. Cuz when we were first, like our first trip together was a cruise and we, you know, we met this like older couple and I remember we were calling them our cruise mom and dad.
Lindsay McMahon
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good example, right?
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah.
Lindsay McMahon
It doesn't mean you're gonna be friends later. Doesn't mean you're gonna keep up with them. You might, but you're just friends in that moment and it's really cool because it kind of fills a need at that moment.
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah. Yeah. So. All right. Well, guys, check out episode 2430 was communicate your boundaries in English. So that was another good episode.
Lindsay McMahon
What's the takeaway? Michelle, what does this mean for connection here?
Michelle Kaplan
I do think that this is a really strong expression and we don't want to, you know. Yeah, you can think of it just as an individual. I'm sitting by myself, I'm in my happy place. But we could also think about how we can use this to actually connect with someone over a special circumstance in a special setting. Really. You know, even just talking to a stranger. Right. So connecting over this feeling, this special feeling really is strong for everyone. I think it's a feeling everyone can relate to. What do you think?
Lindsay McMahon
Yeah, it's great. It's a chance for you to show people what you, what you love, what you believe in, what you feel strongly about. So guys, use this expression, experiment with it and see how you can get to know someone whether, whether it's a stranger or someone you know. Well, it works equally well in both contexts.
Michelle Kaplan
Text. Okay? Definitely. All right.
Lindsay McMahon
All right. Good stuff, Michelle. Well, guys, hit the follow button so you don't miss a single episode of Allers English. And I'll see you back here very soon, Michelle.
Michelle Kaplan
All right. All right. Bye, Lindsay.
Lindsay McMahon
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Episode Title: Find Your Happy Place
Release Date: July 5, 2025
Hosts: Lindsay McMahon and Michelle Kaplan
Location: Colorado and New York City, USA
Target Audience: Intermediate to advanced English learners, professionals, university students, and ESL teachers.
In this engaging episode of the All Ears English Podcast, hosts Lindsay McMahon and Michelle Kaplan delve into the popular English expression "happy place." Aimed at enhancing listeners' conversational skills, the episode explores both the literal and metaphorical interpretations of finding one's happy place, its relevance in everyday English, and practical applications in building connections.
The conversation kicks off with Lindsay introducing the concept:
Lindsay McMahon [03:30]: "A happy place is really either a physical place or potentially a mindset, a thought, a zone of thinking that makes you happy."
Michelle expands on this, highlighting personal interpretations:
Michelle Kaplan [03:18]: "I think of my friend's house from when we had sleepovers as a kid... It just makes you feel warm being there."
Key Points:
Both hosts share their personal happy places, providing relatable examples for learners.
Michelle's Happy Places:
Lindsay's Happy Places:
Notable Quote:
Lindsay McMahon [03:41]: "Whenever her parents still live part of the year in that house... You realize how warm it makes you feel just being there."
The hosts discuss how the term is commonly used in native English and its applications in various contexts.
Usage Examples:
Notable Quote:
Michelle Kaplan [06:28]: "This is a really great expression to use in English conversations... Maybe you share the same happy place and it leads to a greater conversation."
Lindsay and Michelle explore similar expressions that convey peace and contentment.
Expressions Discussed:
Role-Playing Exercise: The hosts engage in a role-play to demonstrate using "happy place" in a natural conversation between strangers on the beach, highlighting intonation and conversational flow.
Notable Quote:
Michelle Kaplan [13:16]: "I get that. I just zone out and watch the waves."
The discussion emphasizes how sharing happy places can foster connections, even among strangers, by highlighting shared values and experiences.
Insights:
Notable Quote:
Lindsay McMahon [15:15]: "You never know... Maybe you share the same happy place and it leads to a greater conversation."
The hosts hint at future episodes expanding on related topics, such as "feeling off" and communicating boundaries, encouraging listeners to stay tuned and engage with the podcast.
Call to Action:
Michelle Kaplan [12:53]: "Hit follow because that's going to be a future episode that we could definitely go into that more."
Wrapping up the episode, Lindsay and Michelle reinforce the importance of using expressions like "happy place" to enhance English conversational skills and build meaningful connections. They encourage listeners to practice these expressions in various contexts, whether with friends or strangers, to effectively communicate their feelings and experiences.
Final Quote:
Lindsay McMahon [17:19]: "Use this expression, experiment with it and see how you can get to know someone whether it's a stranger or someone you know. It works equally well in both contexts."
By exploring the multifaceted nature of "happy place," Lindsay and Michelle provide ESL learners with valuable insights and practical tools to enhance their English proficiency and interpersonal skills.